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What’s your experience been with making art friends online? Most of the artists I know don’t really have anyone to talk to, and it’s been years since they had a real friend group

>>7770017 (OP)
we don't talk anymore. I'd like to but it's been too long

>>7770017 (OP)
I met some artists irl, but none of them became big friendships or even small friendship.
One artist was a bit of a cool drinking buddy while I was abroad, but we barely talked when I returned.
A few artists I got along with annoyed me with their incessant political posting (Trump derangement, despite being basically on the other side of the globe) which discouraged me from reaching out again. I'm mostly online on WhatsApp, so I don't really check on those who gave me their instagram or X.

Talking with artists feels very cautious on both sides. Speaking to strangers withing my day job field is much more chill.

>>7770017 (OP)
every time I tried to join a discord server everyone was deepthroating the local porn artist who drew with a cancer inducing art style and had the typical obnoxious personality that made you wanna fucking strangle him with razorwire but also had 300 gorillion followers and earned 15 trillion dollars a month on Patreon because he drew the futa dicks really big or something, so of course he's the funniest guy ever XD
artists are a bunch of little sluts

>>7770017 (OP)
I like the idea of having art friends, but once I added some anons from here I felt like it became kinda like a chore trying to connect with them and telling them how great their art is and what im currently drawing and yada yada
I dunno, maybe im just too weird and socially retarded even by 4chan standards

>>7770017 (OP)
The only people online I talk about my art with are a bunch of (presumably) dudes I am aquitanced with trough 4chan, most of whom were from back in the day when /tg/ still used to run quests and I participated in a bunch of them usually by drawfagging in them. I even ran a couple of shit tier quests as well.

Social media or dedicated art sites have been utterly useless for me to get in touch with people with interest in the type of shit I draw, though on deviantart I have a bunch of people who do comment regularly on the stuff I upload but besides that I don't really interact with them.

some level of narcisism is probably necessary to become an artist
I'd rather make friends with people with different interests

i find my art is good enough now that it's kind of easy to reach out to artists that follow me on twitter. I just draw a decent piece of one of their characters and that most of the time opens the door for conversation, but I don't know how to carry a discussion once I'm in. I'm also always afraid I'm going to say something off key that'll scare them off

>>7770050
That sounds like every art discord I've been. Seeing the other artists kiss the ass of creepy porn guy with a big following disgusts me.

>>7770107
nta but if I've contemplated starting a swf only discord, but I dont think there are enough people

>>7770050
>>7770107
can also confirm in my limited experience its like that. its very bumfuck nowhere town popular kid in highschool energy

>>7770116
my experience with trying to join SFW only discords out of despair to avoid porn is that they only exist for the mods, who are always transgender for some reason, to gather 13 year olds which they then flip onto their actual porn server they've linked everywhere with a warning that it's totally NSFW and you shouldn't look at it if you're underage
I do not believe you should link your porn server at all if you want to keep the space SFW especially when you do so because your idea is that it needs to be kid friendly
they literally just exist as a proxy to funnel kids on a porn server. discord culture is fucking vile and adults should never be allowed to mingle with kids in leisure spaces
I have never seen a server that was about not having porn on it rather than grooming kids, maybe they only exist in retarded Christian communities

>>7770212
you sound like a retarded puritan

>>7770218
you sound like you choke on dick

>>7770212
Well then a Christian server it might have to be. No trannies allowed, even if you only make SFW.
Also no Indians. You must curse vishnu

>>7770050
viktor is that you

>>7770017 (OP)
>making friends
What are you, gay?

>>7770017 (OP)
joined a server from an old art section of a dead forum, the group fell apart due to gay ass commie larping faggots and then the glue of the group died

next group was a bit better from online drawing games but fell apart due to relationship drama + everyone got busy with irl work so we couldn't hang out and draw together like we used to.

Still miss those guys

art/reading/writing is fundamentally a very lonely passtime so I cherish those days

>>7770026
Send them a message NOW!

>>7770050
>>7770107
>>7770212
>>7770224
>you shall not make graven images
Enjoy hell!

>>7770017 (OP)
I'm happy to have some both online and irl. Joined a discord few years back and now I have vc drawing buddies. IRL from school and local gallery regulars.

Spent years building a community and filtered all of the shit starters, weirdos, and vibe killers out of. Now I have real friends that do daily art VCs with. The most important thing is to never, ever let these mentally ill and/or fairweather faggots incapable of creating thriving, active communities convince you that they should have say so on anything important, nor let them implant large numbers of people who don't fit the culture into your community. Gatekeeping always works.

>>7770517
How are you supposed to enjoy hell? I thought the whole point is that you can't enjoy it

>>7770517
>if you don't want the server to be about shitty porn you are le christian XD
Haha I can't wait for mandatory ID verification to access the internet. I don't even like censorship but giving people freedom is objectively a mistake.

Does anyone have different experience from what's been shared?

>>7770811
Those chuds are lying to you. I'm the admin of a large Discord server and we welcome people of all ages from 12 year olds to 47 year old (like me!) and we all love to draw our fursonas together. Of course someone gets frisky sometimes but we can't allow that on our SFW only server for children so we make sure to those naughty bois to our NSFW server where we have all sorts of rooms for ERP and fetishes ;) of course we can't avoid that sometimes one of our underage members joins the NSFW server and in that case we can only make sure that he discovers his sexuality and his true gender. We have courses to draw animal penises correctly when we do ERP gangbangs with our fursonas all together. We have several kids in our NSFW server who discovered they were born in the wrong body this way. It's such a triumph when we get yet another one to do bottom surgery. It doesn't matter how many commit suicide as long as we get that choppy choppy action going on! I'm trans btw.

>>7770017 (OP)
They mogged me so hard I wanna draw just to beat em
They draw genshin characters
But I'd rather draw goon

>>7770050
Every artist eith a following and a discord server are literally just highschool clique circlejerk all over again

>>7770017 (OP)
a lot of discords are cliquey bullshit that you'll never feel truly apart of, but individual friendships can be a blessing.

>>7770017 (OP)
am a pretty shy person when it comes to make friends both irl and online am currently on a drawfag server but i really reserve a lot i do ocasionally send messages but i dont really have a like close connection to someone in the group, and irl i really dont talk a lot about drawfag things with friends outside from sending my stuff if is a drawing related to something we both like or for quick check to see if is a good idea or quick mistakes, i do wish of making drawfag friends but i think am to shy for that

>>7770811
If anything the only NSFW servers I've been are very selective about who they invite in (it's a system of recommandations from members and the mods will check your social to see if your interests/personality align with the server) and ban any user who lied about their age or whatever if they hear/find about something. Not saying groomers don't exist on discord or elsewhere but anon is just being loud and want to talk about trannies.

About 10 years ago I livestreamed with a couple of crimson daggers people, they were cool, but I didn't know that relationships take work or that boundaries was a thing. My best art friend and I trolled one of my other friends by saying how cool hitler was and he left the discord and blocked my friend it was so funny. The best art friend asked if I contacted him to tell him we were kidding around, but I didn't care enough to do so. I had an art peer who is a girl and she deleted all her media and kept in contact with me, but I was always jokingly flirting with her (she had a bf and we all knew) and she blocked me as well. After that I couldn't get art friends online or irl to stick. I even went to one of those art meetups with Ahmed Aldoori and Steven Zapata and didn't even network, both of them was stressing how important it was to keep in contact with each other.

>>7775603
Anon for the love of god atleast tell me that you became a kick ass artist in your decade long isolation?

>>7775619
Would I be here if I did? I quit art off and on, and had to deal with adult shit like trying to survive and working shit jobs. I was also pretty unfocused and hate myself everyday for it anon. Hopefully you don't have to bear the weight of the shame I feel writing this, anon.

>>7775619
>decade long isolation

Just read that part, I had friends throughout the years (Most of that changed after 2020, had work friends in 2024 but ended up fucking 2 co-workers and had to get out of there so I'm alone again) A girlfriend, etc. Ultimately I learned that I had a hard time knowing how to clarify and prioritize if anything. The break from art did teach me that while my art skills were completly rusty my more mature mind understood concepts like planes, composition and value hierarchy easier than before.

>>7770811
>join discord
>everyone draws and posts work
>over time in jokes form and people start collabing
>start following other anons in the group
>top artists are either freelance/get commision regularly or have pro work out but are cool with giving crit and guidance
>that one guy who is the lolcow
>most of us are just beg or int but it's still fun to draw and clown around
>start getting itchy feet and realize I'm spending more time chatting about life than working on projects
>quietly duck out and start working on my book
>miss goofing around
>never see invite link posted again in threads
>don't want to ask mutuals for an invite after all this time
>book is almost
it was fun while it lasted

>>7770017 (OP)
Pretty sure being about the same level of skill and not insecure about your art is probably an actual requirement for that to work. Otherwise it's like any other relationship and it's a matter of chemistry and effort. I fail at the later. Talking to people online or on the phone is a chord for me, especially in a different language. No matter the subject it's just not the same organic social experience than meeting irl. My past experience in fandom/communities wasn't too stellar either. If you're above average, people either walk on eggshells around you or you do because some people treat you differently, no matters the intents. It's better than cold indifference but it's not fun and not great for bonding with people either.

>>7770017 (OP)
Alot of people are antisocial hermits, like me
I would like someone to talk about character design buildings and all the sorts but that can be difficult

>>7770811
No, it's dog eat dog. I've seen friendships get harmed when one of them socially engineers the other to make financial decisions that ended up at a loss worth hundreds of thousands of dollars just so they can mock and ridicule the other to look superior in front of other big wigs with lots of money. It's quite depressing to see this behavior, we all joke about being crabs in a bucket well this place pales in comparison to what richfags do to their so called friends.

Think twice before you befriend someone online there are some sick puppies out there who genuinely gratify and take glee by ruining you and this space is no different.

>>7770811
its so much worse than you can imagine

>>7775835
>want to draw porn for money

When did /ic/ turn into this? It seems the only people here are those who want to draw anime NSFW shit. What happened to the old /ic/?

>>7775908
Do you legitimately believe that space marine concept art is a higher and more noble calling than anime porn?

>>7775927
not him but yes and I think space marine concept art is fucking dogshit

>>7775955
The sad reality is both are dogshit, but if you try to do anything artsy the brainfucked twitter populace just won't get it. Concept art space marine in void does so well because the hordes of retards with third grade literacy levels can't understand anything more nuanced than big robot gun man. The closest you're allowed to get is 'aesthetically artsy' like backrooms and -core shit, but it's really not much better.

All my online friendships ended with me getting ghosted or with me doing the ghosting. Online relationships just don’t seem to ever last. Also I don’t think you can truly know a person or call them a friend until you’ve spent time with them irl.

>>7775603
kill yourself now, anon.

>>7770017 (OP)
had a lefty twitter group for a few years that constantly kept splintering off into separate groups. i still play TTT with one of said groups. now i have another group that im a bit closer too, great guys. doing art also helped me meet my best friend irl

>>7770017 (OP)
I wish there were more art irl meetups locally near me, I could find out here. My dream is to find a social space where artist can hang out draw and work on their projects or study. I had mentor said you might have to be the person that starts it but the social awkward part is real. Still feels like my next move though.

Cool.
Group A we became friends because we like old anime and we like to draw.
In group B I befriended some clients and one of them pays me 200 dollars to draw her loli OC being molested and raped. Chill guy

>>7770017 (OP)
I do have a small friend group that I play games with but I think I'm too schizo and autistic for social interactions these days. It's so tiring trying to engage with people man

>>7776252
Mingling with strangers sucks and is usually pointless.
Deep connections with good friends are wonderful. But unfortunately those deep connections get harder and harder to grow from scratch the older you get.

>>7770017 (OP)
i make electronic music alongside art online and pretty much every internet friends i made are on the electronic music sphere, the select few who are artists just happens to be doing the same things that i do (doing art and music at the same time)

making friends in the electronic music community feels easier since it's a small niche corner of the internet where everyone knew each other and try to grow together compared to the general art sphere that feels like a big busy city thats intimidating to traverse through

>>7782109
>electronic music
Let me in on that. I used to follow a blog called Dodselectro(DeathElectro) that stopped posting a long time ago and that was my source. Discovered new retro wave before the movie Drive kicked it off, from Dodselectro.

I'm going to lurk by the way, I don't want to disrupt the ecosystem.

>>7770017 (OP)
i hang around communities with srs artists trying to make it in the industry, they're usually pretty nice and the quality is higher. ive found they are less likely to be rude because these are essentially your future co-workers but sometimes i see clear passive aggressiveness come through
i don't hang out /w other artists as much but they vary more, more honest about things, more doomerpilled, just a lot more temperamental overall. these types you find coming from youtuber artist discords

>>7770017 (OP)
In my experience over the years drawfags only make friends with drawfags. I understand people bonding over their common craft. It is something they have in common and they can exchange insights over. But drawfags have an elitist and exclusionary attitude.

>>7770017 (OP)
No, I never managed to have a consistent presence online which i feel is a prerequisite.

>>7770017 (OP)
For art, I feel that if you try to befriend someone who's more or less skilled than you, it inevitably turns into a mentor/student dynamic... It takes two people confident in their skill to make it happen imo. And it's very easy to get ahead or fall behind.
For that reason, I have no trouble making friends online, but I never really made art friends. Simply never got to connect with art-minded people in the same skill range and with similar interests.

>>7770811
I have literally not ever had an experience like this, either I'm mentally and by the grace of luck incapable of meeting people that fit this threads scenarios, or 4chan blogposting is full of unlikable and mentally ill people who over-exaggerate their situations.

>>7770017 (OP)
most artists I know online are either reclusive enigmas or completely insufferable narcissists. the former group tend to be the ones better at art.

>>7770218
there is nothing wrong with criticizing discord moderators for confirming stereotypes about them grooming teens
t. ero artist

>>7775835
anyone have more lore on the gangstalking shit? how does that happen over discord?

>>7782135
>>7782109
where would one go to meet other musicians online?

>>7783687
>>7782135
nowadays i only hang with my private group of friends but if you're fine with dubstep / bass music in general since that's what i was talking about you can go to EliminateHQ public discord and go from there, the server itself is pretty active and the guy who owns it does community music production events every week or so

>>7783688
>dubstep / bass music
im not really the biggest dub step fan, but elaborate on what you mean by bass music?

>>7783689
it's just the colloquial umbrella term that dubstep falls into, something like neurofunk dnb, halftime, complextro and stuff like that

examples i can find:
Culprate - Dawn (neurofunk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFd0AkS05k

KOAN Sound - Forgotten Myths (neurofunk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX8sdiVSkpc

Amon Tobin - Cruel Like Flint (COPYCATT Bootleg) (halftime)
https://soundcloud.com/itscopycatt/cruel-like-flint-bootleg

Vorso - Wannabe (halftime)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=necFszuebHI

Emplexx - Still You (complextro)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZaQZEw6NVU

i recommend you try giving dubstep a chance again! the newer stuff sounds nothing like the skrillex brostep era back in the day, and even if you end up not vibing with it either you can see really how far the genre has come since

>>7770017 (OP)
i never understood this friendship things i feel left out heard people still talk to most of there friends have stories to socialize with and have place where they meet up to focus on there goals and support each other. probably Romanizing the fuck out of this i just wished i had a group to be in

>>7770017 (OP)
Why are you trying to make art friends online instead of making IRL friends?