Thread 211926054

Brazilbros...

>>211926054 (OP)
The CIA did it or something
Better vote Lula again, make sure the 10K isn't passed

>>211926054 (OP)
Brazil doesn't have the EU giving them gibs

now compare debt

now compare dick size

>>211926093
Per capita por favor

>>211926123
was it RAPE??????????

>>211926111
kiełbasa wins. Source: my pants.

>>211926054 (OP)
interesting, what happened after 1990

>>211926162
SEX

>>211926217
China paired up with Brazil for industrial cooperation. Extracted the knowhow, then offshored everything to their cunt and gave Chumpzillians a handshake in return.

>>211926322
LOL

>>211926322
This never happened

>>211926419
>he doesn't even know

>>211926462
Prove it then, faggot

>>211926162
Prove it then, faggot

>poland when is cripple
>poland when has money

>>211926054 (OP)
that's socialism for you
>years of Social Democrats and Worker's Party governing the country

>>211926922
>>211926054 (OP)

Imagine poles were teleported into the jungle and Europe would have an interesting new culture where the most repulsive slavdreck currently drivels

>>211926093
Blue states have more people that vote on the Left
Red states have more people that vote on the Right
Guess which makes the money and which takes it due to our Federal Pact? Which has more people living on welfare than working?

>>211926054 (OP)
How did you not block this slopjeet account?

>>211927025
We'd be rich if we had massive natural resources and near-perfect climate. I'm ready any time, moron.
>uga buga, it wuz MY money that done it
weird how the biggest kikes on the continent did charity. And weird how your companies don't get taxed here.

>>211926054 (OP)
how do i get a brazilian wife

>>211926054 (OP)
Brazil embracing neoliberalism
Poland becoming EU's Mexico with maquilladoras

>>211928234
Yeah right, the left will never be wrong despite Venezuela, Mexico, etc

>>211926091
seriously why are we like this

Brazil has Niggers
Poland has Slavs (only half-niggers)

>>211926054 (OP)
poland is just european brazil

>>211928336
saar we full support israel please settle in poland saar

I am pretty sure all eastern socialist countries were higher in PPP than Latin America this time

>>211927436
come to portugal

>>211928431
This. Almost nothing changed since 1990, they still have like 1.5~2x more money per capita. Panama is the only Latin American country that got richer, Chile a bit richer

>>211928361
when you go passportbro in brazil ill fly over to polska and passportbro there to import a polska girl to israel.

>>211926091
lmao they really are like that

>>211928234
>Brazil embracing neoliberalism
we'll have 20 years of Lula's worker's party doing as they please, but it will never be the Left's fault, it's always someone's, something else's to blame

>>211926091
Brazil grew a LOT under the two first Lula administrations, so this comment is kind of ironic. That part from lowest to historical peak was during Lula

>>211928310
>>211929069
Bud...

>>211926322
knowhow of what lmao

>>211929553
the effects of the measures the conservatives governments tooks started to show during lula presidencies
everyone with a brain gets this

>>211929797
All presidents from Itamar Franco to Lula himself were fiscal conservatives. Yes, Lula was a fiscal conservative. The heterodoxy started with Dilma

>>211929618
tricknology

>>211929797
>>211929848
No public deficit during Lula 1 and Lula 2

>>211929797
>>211929976
High interest rates during Lula 1 and Lula 2

>>211926054 (OP)
>>211926091
>>211926935
>>211927028
>>211928280
>>211929175
facts don't care about your feelings.

>>211929797
what about the first 200 years of right wing rule? >>211930080

>>211929618
Shipbuilding and other heavy industry.

>>211929797
>>211930064
Now, he did expand credit

>>211930172
Source?

>>211926123
doing more with less
brazil i kneel

>>211930120
why is it assumed the "right wing" was capitalistic 200 years back? The economic divide post-introduction of socialist ideology isn't a given.

>>211930265
I can't find any. lol Some Polish publicist mentioned it long ago and another time I heard it from Zeihan, but that's not exactly a reporter.

>>211930277
>noooo, the brazilian monarchy of dom pedro I & dom pedro II weren't actually right wing because they didn't ban blacks in disneyslop and ubislop, real right wing policies have never been tried before!!!

Right-wing isn't just social issues, chud, but it's also not just economic either, chud. It's what I want it to be to justify being a left winger. Mesopotamia was right wing, man.

>>211930120
What the French anon probably meant were the presidents with conservative fiscal and monetary policies. This only started in Brazil for the first time in history after the Real Plan (1994) under president Itamar Franco and continued up until the New Economic Matrix of Dilma Rousseff (2011).

I'm arguing that the first two terms of Lula had fiscal and monetary conservative policies. All presidents since the Real Plan were doing that until Dilma. So his argument makes no sense

>>211930362
You realize capitalism as a doctrine, or liberalism for those of us who live in sane countries, started on the Left, yes?

>>211930414
And anyways calling Poland a Laissez-faire economy is simply inaccurate anyhow

>>211926054 (OP)
Not hating on Poland, but all the stats I read about them indicate that their country is first world tier from gdp to hdi. If it was that good, why’s there a lot of poles outside of Poland?

>>211926054 (OP)
Why do Latin American countries always suffer from the worst traits of both the first world and the third world?

>>211930841
because PPP doesn't buy you an iphone

>>211930988
Dude you are from Bangladesh. Sit down

>>211930841
>>211931038
While what french anon said is true, the gap is closing and many poles who live abroad are coming back.

>>211931048
Yeah we are poor thirdies but you aren't that rich either and suffer from globohomo problems.

>>211931145
Concern yourself with this before worrying about gay pride parades

>>211931145
>we may be starving and living in extreme poverty but at least there are no gay people here
dude

>>211929343
>implying
Boom dos royalties was not Lula's merit, he took somebody else's work and still managed to ruin the country despite having everything handed to him to easily make it flourish.
Same goes with 2022, where Bolsonaro managed to save the country from the brink of a recession caused by PT's previous terms, fraudemics and the entire sabotage against his term.
Now everything is going to absolute shit again, and guess who is the current president? Totally not a coincidence, totally not a noticeable pattern.

>>211926054 (OP)
We lost 40% of our GDP due to Dilma Rousseff's economic mismanagement.

>>211929553
you do know that Dilma and Lula were the same thing right?

>>211931048
he has a point, no reason to act like a french faggot

>>211930080
i've been under the same government for my entire life, with 4 years of bolsonaro in the middle. this country is a joke.

>>211926054 (OP)
GDP It is a lie created to deceive retards


First: GDP counts financial speculation as part of GDP. For that reason alone it should be completely disregarded as a way of measuring a country's wealth.

Second: GDP does not measure how much capital is circulating within a country. GDP measures how many times the SAME capital circulates within a country.
If a country has 2 trillion dollars of capital and it circulates six times, the country will have 12 trillion gdp. Only imbeciles believe this neoliberal idiocy called GDP. That is why in a country like the US, you have people literally starving, 1/5 of the population is on food stamps. People literally living in their cars.

>>211930172

>>211930317
>>211926054 (OP)
>>211926091

Poland sent HALF of their population to live in Westerner Europe

Polish are the smartest people in the world, Poland would be a superpower by now if not for Germany.

>>211929553
you still pretend it was because of Lula and not because of the commodities boom, the global trend at the time?
if they didn't still so much money back then and bought themselves two more elections, more than half of the country could have a swear system nowadays and not that many people would be dying at the hospitals corridors, nor being semi-illiterate

>>211934540
>>211929848
>>211929976

>>211930233
>>211930444
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>>211934362
Do they not teach basic counting in Brazil?

>>211930080
Bolsonaro aside, about the last 20 years of Brazil being once again a (now flawed) democracy, it was the Worker's Party governing us
we had the biggest corruption scandals of History (Global) and Br's all time high violent deaths (65 thousand a year) more than half the country never got a basic sanitation, like sewage system, more than 2/3s of the country is semi-literate and the only thing Lula's Worker's Party seems to think as of a solution nowadays is more taxation and """regulation""" (censorship)

also, either fuck off gringo thinking you know about my country
or vai toma no meio do teu cu seu esquerdinha caviar diaspora de merda

>>211934729
eu suspeito que você pensa ter explicado algo citando diversos posts

>>211934970
Read them. My point is that the first reply in this thread is comically uninformed for two reasons.
1. Brazil grew a lot under Lula, so the idea that we better vote for him again to keep stagnating is ironic.
2. Lula 1 and 2 continued conservative fiscal and monetary policies set after the Real Plan, so it's double ironic because he probably assumed Lula enacted heterodox economic policies that ruined our growth

>>211934886
>more than half the country never got a basic sanitation, like sewage system,
Why are right-wingers such cowards? Take some responsibility for your failed policies. 200 years of ruling and only 44.4% of the country was connected to sewage systems.

>>211933611
They were very different. Dilma's economic management was completely different

>>211935195
1. Brazil's economic growth under Lula was lower than the average growth of other developing nations, even Argentina.
2. He dropped orthodoxy in his second term, shifting the focus of economic policy to the "campeãs nacionais", most of which ended bankrupt.

>>211935195
>Brazil grew a lot under Lula
already told >>211934540
>Lula 1 and 2 continued conservative fiscal and monetary policies
already told you >>211934540
and you simply ignored it and keep repeating the same lies/lines

>>211935402
1. Polish anon is still comically wrong
2. campeãs nacionais are still orthodox just not neoliberal. Asian tigers did that

>>211934373
TRVTH NVKE

>>211935301
>200 years of ruling
Most of the stupid shit the Left does Economy wise our military dictatorship did. We had Vargas, basically a fascist - how the fuck is that Right-Wing?
And why do you ignore 20 years of Workers Party doing nothing about it?
You know shit about Brazil, retard.

>>211935413
Your posts sound like election year babble. What do you even want me to address? Commodity boom? Ok, Brazil grew a lot because of the commodity boom but we are going through a commodity boom since the end of the pandemic and we aren't growing as much

Note that I wouldn't even vote for Lula now in 2026. I'm praising past economic policies that he is no longer following. Stop being obsessed with team mentality of good guys versus bad guys, it's cringe

>>211935301
>pic
puta merda gringo burro, ainda vem com fonte em Inglês
é imperialismo yankee querendo saber do países dos outros e só sabendo falar merda?
ou é diaspora mesmo? típico filho da puta que vota no PT de Miami?

>>211935621
>basically a fascist - how the fuck is that Right-Wing?

>>211935783
I'm literally getting data from your government website you dumb mongrel, not some second party source by an illiterate journalist. Check the date as well https://agenciadenoticias.ibge.gov.br/en/agencia-news/2184-news-agency/news/39245-censo-2022-rede-de-esgoto-alcanca-62-5-da-populacao-mas-desigualdades-regionais-e-por-cor-e-raca-persistem-3

>>211935735
a economia foi bem APESAR DO PT
preferiram furtar o país pra permanecer ainda mais no poder
tão mostrando que não sabem governar, haja vista apenas tributação atrás de tributação, mais gasto, comprando apoio da mídia e tentando censurar quem critica

>>211935783
Eu moro no interior do nordeste e todo mundo tem esgoto. Isso aí deve ser baseado em alguma tecnicalidade idiota pra criar manchete sensacionalista

>>211935834
It wasn't a real Right-Wing rule because they didn't ban blacks in their movies or however the chud is circumcised.

>>211935918
Latin america is being taken over by people indoctrinated by dumb lolbertarian think tanks. They teach that nazism was socialist and the only way of being a true right winger is selling everything to americans

>>211935879
I was talking about Lula not his party. The economy was fine before Dilma

why don't brazilians put all their money on some shit coin and x100 it? Are they stupid?

>>211935856
>O presidente Lula revogou dois decretos sobre o Marco do Saneamento Básico, que estabelece que, até 31 de dezembro de 2023, 99% da população tenham acesso à água potável e 90% ao tratamento e à coleta de esgoto.

https://agenciabrasil.ebc.com.br/radioagencia-nacional/politica/audio/2023-07/lula-revoga-dois-decretos-sobre-saneamento-basico

anyways, pic

>>211935905
esgoto do tipo que não tem o número 2 correndo no meio da rua é só o que tem, até na capital

>>211936107
>São analisados os 100 municípios brasileiros mais populosos.
Oohh so that's it. They are including a bunch of favelas and skipping the millions of Brazilians in nice small towns. Got it.

>>211936044
>I was talking about Lula not his party.
>The economy was fine before Dilma
kek

>>211936174
This photo jumpscared me for some reason

>>211936174
Haddad is not even that bad tbqhwy, he's clearly trying to fix the budget but the ideological wing of the party together with the opposition aren't letting him

>>211936164
>They are including a bunch of favelas and skipping the millions of Brazilians in nice small towns.

>são paulo e rio não têm esgoto
>araguainha e oliveira de fátima que têm

tipo assim?

>>211936000
vargas was pro-labor and created the CLT, so the confusion is a little understandable. real life is little more complicated than right wing or left wing.

>>211936245
>Haddad is not even that bad tbqhwy
hue
succdem or commie, call it

>>211936310
Yeah. Go check small towns in your state, specially if it has a center left government that likes to spend a lot on services to poor people. You won't find shitty infrastructure there

>>211936372
Olavo de Carvalho, Ronald Regan and Mussolini were socialists

>>211936372
he studied marxist bullshit but his economic policy is based on the tripé macroeconômico, the other anon is right, he's not.

>>211936442
>em DEFESA do socialismo
ser esquerdista é negar a realidade

>>211936433
Como você.

>>Se todos os meios de produção são estatizados, não há mercado. Sem mercado, os produtos não têm preços. Sem preços, não se pode fazer cálculo de preços. Sem cálculo de preços, não há planejamento econômico. Sem planejamento, não há economia estatizada. “Comunismo” é apenas uma construção hipotética destituída de materialidade, um nome sem coisa nenhuma dentro, um formalismo universal abstrato que não escapa ileso à navalha de Occam. Não existiu nem existirá jamais uma economia comunista, apenas uma economia capitalista camuflada ou pervertida, boa somente para sustentar uma gangue de sanguessugas politicamente lindinhos.

>>211936480
feel free to ignore reality if you want, but his party has people who are far more radical. he's just doing his job.
he kinda has to if they don't want the whole Dilma situation to happen all over again.

>>211936564
>no u
eu aceito sua concessão

>>211936527
Self demonstration of what I was talking about: >>211936000

>>211936000
>the only way of being a true right winger is selling everything to americans
change "americans" to "globalists" or "chinese communist party" and it's a bullseye. right-wing libertarians are anti-Trump and anti-USA. only Bolsonaro stands a true Nationalist.
>>211936442
This. Haddad and Lula are vassals to George Soros and the WEF and they govern to the banks.

só macacos de merda pra acreditar que esse país tem salvação
acho que vou pegar um empréstimo e ir pra Rússia. se eu morrer não preciso voltar pro Brasil e se eu viver consigo morar em um país decente. é a única opção

>>211936928
Bolsonaro, the "nationalist", wants to sell the Petrobras and wanted Boeing to buy Embraer. He wanted to open an American military base in our soil. He also said that Brazilians are resistent to diseases because we swim in shit and shared a video saying our country would be better off if we were replaced by Japanese people. Such a great nationalist

>>211926054 (OP)
This is payback for making fun of me in Tibia 20 years ago.

>>211937054
Vendo os argumentos que as pessoas usam aqui, não tem esperança mesmo. Essa é a suposta ""elite"" do Brasil e o resto da população é ainda pior.

>>211937197
é a mesma macacagem de sempre. "meu presidente favorito não foi o responsável!! foi o seu!!!!!" sendo que esse país nunca foi bom sob qualquer presidente. sempre foi abaixo da média, e não por liderança política, mas porque o travequileiro médio se contenta com usar droga no final de semana e comer puta 3x por semana. nunca foi sobre presidente, partido ou ideias, sim sobre cultura. a China se desenvolveu em uma ditadura, a Polônia em uma social democracia e os EUA em uma economia liberal, e o Brasil não se desenvolveu em nenhum dos 3 xddddddd

>>211926091
Voting won't change this. You can't vote your genes away for new ones.

>>211926093
Lol this
Shit is so obvious

>>211937450
Is this a form of cope for the creolization of your country?

>>211937492
Brazil (2022 Census)
White (Branco): 47.7% (approximately 88.25 million people)
Mixed (Pardo): 43.1% (approximately 92.08 million people)
Black (Preto): 9.1% (approximately 20.66 million people)
Asian: 0.4% (approximately 0.85 million people)
Indigenous: 0.6% (approximately 1.23 million people)
France (Estimates, as official racial data is not collected)
White (European ancestry): ~85% (predominantly of French, other European descent)
Black (Sub-Saharan African descent): ~5–7.5% (approximately 3–5 million people, mostly in urban areas like Paris)
Maghrebi (North African descent): ~6–7% (primarily Algerian, Moroccan, Tunisian)
Asian (primarily East and Southeast Asian): ~1–2%
Other (including mixed or other minorities): ~1–2%

>>211937662
Now post without boomers

>>211926054 (OP)
The power of Poccia, protecting smaller countries from prosperity and low STD rates

>>211937662
Post the 0-18 age group.

>>211937662
>Estimates, as official racial data is not collected

>>211930841
At least here in the UK the Brexit meme of poles-out-pakis-in is true. There's been very few new polish arrivals in the last decade and lots went back to Poland.