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Anonymous Austria No.213119498 >>213171792
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Anonymous Austria No.213119504
>DeadJT
Anonymous Austria No.213119879 >>213120665
ๅฝฆๆ‘ฉๅ‘‚ใ•ใ‚“ใจไฝ•ใฎ้–ขไฟ‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹?
Anonymous Austria No.213120331 >>213120665
ใ€Œๅพ…ใฃใŸใ€ใ‚„ใ€Œใฉใ„ใŸใ€ใฟใŸใ„ใช้ŽๅŽปๅฝขใ‚’ใจใ‚‹ๅ‘ฝไปคใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ไฝ•ใงใ“ใ“ใงใฏใใ‚Œ้€šใ˜ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹
Anonymous Japan No.213120665 >>213120723 >>213120812
>>213119879
That's a gourmet commentator famous for using that template of phrases.

>>213120331
the first girl wanted to say "do your best." but she accidentally said "you did your best." against her intention.
Anonymous Japan No.213120723
>>213120665
sorry, forget my post.
>ใ€Œๅพ…ใฃใŸใ€ใ‚„ใ€Œใฉใ„ใŸใ€ใฟใŸใ„ใช้ŽๅŽปๅฝขใ‚’ใจใ‚‹ๅ‘ฝไปคใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒ
indeed. I myself don't know why.
Anonymous Austria No.213120812 >>213174278
>ใŒใ‹
ใใใฃใŸใ‚‰ใใ‚“ใชๅ่ชžใกใ‚‰ใปใ‚‰ๅ‡บใฆใใพใ™ใŒใ€ๅ…ทไฝ“็š„ใซใ“ใฎใ€ŒใŒใ€ใฎๆ„ๅ‘ณใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ“ใ‚ใฃใฆใชใฌ


>>213120665
>but she accidentally said "you did your best."
Ah I get that, but I was wondering why it still couldn't be interpreted as "do your best.", just like ๅพ…ใฃใŸ etc. Is it just unnatural to use it as a command here, or does he not interpret it as a command because of the context it's said in?

>that template of phrases
>AใฎBใ‚„~
Oh I see, thanks!
Anonymous Finland No.213121410 >>213121536 >>213127801 >>213165653
The word ้–“่ฟ‘ is written as ใพใขใ‹ in hiragana at jisho.org. But it's pronounced ใพใ˜ใ‹, or at least I can't hear any difference between the pronunciation and the ใ˜ sound. Why is the symbol ใข used to represent it in hiragana?
Similarly, some words are represented with ใฅ in hiragana which sounds like ใš. Is there any difference between ใฅ and ใš?
Anonymous Austria No.213121519
>last panel
How he is saying ใ„ใˆใŸ and not ใ„ใˆใ‚‹ here?
I found
> https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q14158958929
>ๆ–‡ๆ„ใฏๅŒใ˜ใงใ™ใŒใ€ๅฎŒไบ†ๅฝขใซใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆใ€ใฎๆ–‡ใฎๆ–นใŒใ€Œ่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใ€ใ‚’ๅผท่ชฟใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใƒ‹ใƒฅใ‚ขใƒณใ‚นใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
, but not sure if it applies here
Anonymous Austria No.213121536 >>213127801 >>213136927
>>213121410
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yotsugana
> Yotsugana (ๅ››ใคไปฎๅ; literally "four kana") are a set of four specific kana, ใ˜, ใข, ใš, ใฅ (in the Nihon-shiki romanization system: zi, di, zu, du), used in the Japanese writing system. They historically represented four distinct voiced morae (syllables) in the Japanese language. However, most dialects, such as Standard Japanese-speakers, have undergone mergers and now pronounce two sounds.
Anonymous Austria No.213121553 >>213124356 >>213124515
>last panel
How come he is saying ใ„ใˆใŸ and not ใ„ใˆใ‚‹ here?
I found
> https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q14158958929
>ๆ–‡ๆ„ใฏๅŒใ˜ใงใ™ใŒใ€ๅฎŒไบ†ๅฝขใซใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆใ€ใฎๆ–‡ใฎๆ–นใŒใ€Œ่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใ€ใ‚’ๅผท่ชฟใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใƒ‹ใƒฅใ‚ขใƒณใ‚นใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
, but not sure if it applies here
Anonymous Turkey No.213124036
Anonymous Japan No.213124356
>>213121553
yes. ใ„ใˆใ‚‹ applies to this situation too.
Anonymous Japan No.213124515 >>213127055
>>213121553
ใ„ใˆใ‚‹ applies to this situation too.

>ใ„ใˆใŸ
>ๅฎŒไบ†ๅฝขใซใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆใ€ใฎๆ–‡ใฎๆ–นใŒใ€Œ่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใ€ใ‚’ๅผท่ชฟใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใƒ‹ใƒฅใ‚ขใƒณใ‚นใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚

I personally don't feel such emphasis.
Anonymous Australia No.213126480
ๅƒ•ใฏ็‰›
ๅƒ•ใฏๆœจใฎๅทฆใซใ„ใฃใฆ็‰›
ๅƒ•ใฏๆœจใฎๅทฆใซใ„ใฃใฆ็‰›ใงๆœจใฎๅณใซใ„ใ‚‹

ๅƒ•ใฏๅœฐไธ‹ใซ...

ๅƒ•ใฏๅ‡ถใ‚ใ‚‹
ๅƒ•ใฏๅ‡ถใ‚ใฃใฆไธƒๅไธ‰ๅ€‹ใ‚ใ‚‹

ๅƒ•ใฏๆœจใฎๅทฆใซใ„ใฃใฆ็‰›ใงๆœจใฎๅณใซใ„ใฃใฆๅ‡ถใ‚ใฃใฆไธƒๅไธ‰ๅ€‹ใ‚ใ‚‹

ๆœจ็‰›ๆœจ
ๅ‡ถ
ไธƒไธ‰

ๅƒ•ใฏ้ฌฑ
Anonymous Turkey No.213126747
https://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv348053302
Anonymous Austria No.213127055 >>213127896 >>213129147
>>213124515
>ใ„ใˆใ‚‹ applies to this situation too.
But what's the difference between the two?

>I personally don't feel such emphasis.
I see, thanks
Anonymous Bulgaria No.213127078 >>213127345
ใใ‚ใใ‚ๅฏใ‚‹
ใŠใ‚„ใ™ใฟ!
Anonymous Brazil No.213127345
>>213127078
ใ„ใ„ๅคข่ฆ‹ใฆใญ(/ฯ‰๏ผผ)
Anonymous Australia No.213127801 >>213136927
>>213121410

>Why is the symbol ใข used to represent it in hiragana?

Because it just is sometimes. Don't think about it.

>Similarly, some words are represented with ใฅ in hiragana which sounds like ใš. Is there any difference between ใฅ and ใš?

You are right. Both ใ˜ and ใข are pronounced like "ji", voiced affricates. And ใš and ใฅ are pronunced as "zu", voiced non-affricates.
It may vary as >>213121536 mentioned

If you want a technical explaination as to why the same sound can be spelled with two different characters, it goes back to etymology and the rendaku phenomena.

A lot of Japanese compound words take on this "slurring" in the middle. You can see this in words like ใฒใ‚‰ใŒใช. ใฒใ‚‰(smooth)ใ‹ใช(lettering) gets slurred into "hiragana". ใ‹ใŸ(part) ใ‹ใช(lettering) is still "katakana". It is very inconsistent which words go through rendaku.
There are some words where the character ใก or ใค gets slurred. In your case, "proximity" is ใพ(area) ใกใ‹(close) that gets slurred into "majika". And they keep the ใข to show the etymology.
Anonymous Japan No.213127896 >>213131412
>>213127055
As I'm not a Jap teacher, I want you to not take it seriously. but I'd say,
ใ„ใˆใ‚‹ is the normal phrase.
as for ใ„ใˆใŸ, I'd recognize it
1. telling about a past event : would have said
2. telling about a past possibility : could have said
Anonymous Israel No.213127904
ใฟใ‚“ใชใซใƒฌใ‚คใƒ—ใ•ใ‚Œใฆใฟใฆใปใ—ใ„
Anonymous Turkey No.213128893 >>213130978
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm42349597
Anonymous Japan No.213129147 >>213131412
>>213127055
>But what's the difference between the two?
>่‡ณไธŠใฎ็ฅžๅธญใจใ„ใˆใŸ
>่‡ณไธŠใฎ็ฅžๅธญใจใ„ใˆใ‚‹
ใปใผ้•ใ„ใฏใชใ„ใ‘ใฉ
ๅผทใ„ใฆใ„ใ†ใชใ‚‰ใ€ๅ€‹ไบบ็š„ใซใฏ
ใ€Œใ‚ชใƒ•ใ‚ฃใ‚นๅ†…ใฎๅบงๅธญใฎไฝ็ฝฎใ€ใฏ
ใ“ใฎใƒขใƒŽใƒญใƒผใ‚ฐใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚้ŽๅŽปใฎๆ™‚็‚นใงๆ—ขใซๆฑบใพใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ“ใจใ ใ‹ใ‚‰
้ŽๅŽปๅฝขใซใ—ใฆใ‚‚่‡ช็„ถใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ—ใ€
ไปŠใ‚‚ๅŒใ˜ๅธญใชใฎใ ใ‹ใ‚‰็พๅœจๅฝขใงใ‚‚่‡ช็„ถใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹

<ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจๅ‰ใฎ่ณชๅ•ใซใคใ„ใฆ>
ๆ–‡ๆœซใ€ŒใŸใ€ใฏใ€็ขบใ‹ใซไพ‹ๅค–็š„ใซๅ‘ฝไปคๆ–‡ใฎๆ„ๅ‘ณใงไฝฟใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹
>ใปใ‚‰ใ€ๅธฐใฃใŸๅธฐใฃใŸ=ใปใ‚‰ใ€ๅธฐใฃใฆๅธฐใฃใฆ
>ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจๅพ…ใฃใŸ=ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจๅพ…ใฃใฆ

ใŸใ ใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒๆ€ใ„ใคใ้™ใ‚Šใ€ใ“ใ†ใ„ใ†ใ€ŒใŸใ€ใฏๅ‹•ไฝœใŒไธ€็žฌใง็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใซใ—ใ‹ไฝฟใ‚ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ€ใ†
>ใปใ‚‰ใ€ๅธฐใฃใŸๅธฐใฃใŸ
ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€ใ“ใ†่จ€ใ‚ใ‚ŒใŸไบบใŒใ„ใชใใชใ‚‹ใฏใšใฎใ€ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจใ ใ‘ๅ…ˆใฎๆœชๆฅใฎ็Šถๆ…‹ใ‚’ใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใ—ใฆใ€ŒๅธฐใฃใŸใ€ใจๅฎŒไบ†ๅฝข/้ŽๅŽปๅฝขใง่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹

ใ€ŒใŒใ‚“ใฐใ‚‹ใ€ใจใ„ใ†ๅ‹•ไฝœใฏใ‚ใ‚‹็จ‹ๅบฆๆ™‚้–“ใŒใ‹ใ‹ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ ใ‚ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๆธˆใ‚“ใ ๆœชๆฅใ‚’ใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใ—ใฆ
>ใ€ŒใŒใ‚“ใฐใฃใŸใ€(=ใ€ŒใŒใ‚“ใฐใฃใฆใ€ใฎๆ„ๅ‘ณ)
ใจใ„ใ†่จ€ใ„ๆ–นใŒใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ†
ๅฐ‘ใชใใจใ‚‚็งใซใฏไธ่‡ช็„ถใซ่žใ“ใˆใ‚‹
Anonymous United States No.213129877
You guys are so smart and good at japanese
I wanted to be that good but my iq is low
Anonymous Brazil No.213130978
>>213128893
ใใ‚Œๆฑบ้—˜็ฝชใ‚„ใง
Anonymous Austria No.213131412 >>213132390
>>213127896
>>213129147
ไธๅฏงใซ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฆใฉใ†ใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†!
>ใŸใ ใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒๆ€ใ„ใคใ้™ใ‚Šใ€ใ“ใ†ใ„ใ†ใ€ŒใŸใ€ใฏๅ‹•ไฝœใŒไธ€็žฌใง็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใซใ—ใ‹ไฝฟใ‚ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆ€ใ†
ใงใ‚‚ใญใ€wiktionaryใซใ‚ˆใ‚‹ใจ่กŒๅธใฎ่จ€ใฃใฆใ‚‹ใ€Œๆฎ‹ใฃใŸใ€ใ‚‚ใใ‚“ใชๅ‘ฝไปคใชใฎใซใ€ไธ€็žฌใง็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚‰ใชใ„็ถ™็ถšใ™ใ‚‹่กŒ็‚บใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ—ใญ
Anonymous Brazil No.213132097
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm45211177
Anonymous Japan No.213132390 >>213133016
>>213131412
>่กŒๅธใฎ่จ€ใฃใฆใ‚‹ใ€Œๆฎ‹ใฃใŸใ€ใ‚‚ใใ‚“ใชๅ‘ฝไปค
ๅœŸไฟตใฎๅค–ใซๅ‡บใšใซใ€Œๆฎ‹ใ‚‹ใ€ใฎใฏไธ€็žฌใฎๅ‹•ไฝœใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
>ๆฎ‹ใ‚‹=่ธใฟใจใฉใพใ‚‹ใ€ใตใ‚“ใฐใ‚‹
ใจ่จ€ใ„ๆ›ใˆใ‚‹ใจใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใ‚„ใ™ใ„ใจๆ€ใ†
Anonymous Brazil No.213132973
ใ‚ใ•ใฃใฑใ‚‰ใ‚จใƒŠใ‚ธใƒผใƒ‰ใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏ้ฃฒใ‚“ใ ใ“ใจใงใฉใ†ใซใ‹ใชใ‚Šใใ† ( *ยด่‰ธ๏ฝ€)
Anonymous Austria No.213133016 >>213134825
>>213132390
ใใ†ใงใ™ใ‹ใ€‚ๆ€ใ†ใซ็›ธๆ‰‹ใฎๆ”ปใ‚ใฏ็ถ™็ถš็š„ใชใฎใงใใ‚Œใซ่ธใฟๅ ชใˆใ‚‹ใฎใ‚‚ใใ†ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ
Anonymous United States No.213133595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej-VNM4j0-g

ๆ™ฎ้–€ๅ“ใ‚’ไธ€็ท’ใซ่ชญใฟไธŠใ’ใ‚ˆใ†ใœ
็”šๅคงใชๅŠŸๅพณใซใฏใชใ‚‹
Anonymous Japan No.213134825 >>213138052
>>213133016
>็›ธๆ‰‹ใฎๆ”ปใ‚ใฏ็ถ™็ถš็š„ใชใฎใงใใ‚Œใซ่ธใฟๅ ชใˆใ‚‹ใฎใ‚‚ใใ†ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ
ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰
>ใฎใ“ใฃใŸใ€ใฎใ“ใฃใŸใ€...
ใฃใฆไฝ•ๅบฆใ‚‚(=ใใฎ้ƒฝๅบฆ)่จ€ใ†ใฎใงใฏ?
Anonymous Japan No.213136714 >>213137267
Sorry to ask a beginner-level question, but I'd like to make this clear.
When you want to respond that someone's English is understandable, can you use the verb "work" instead of "be understandable"?

Example:
>A: Sorry if my English doesn't make sense.
>B: No problem, it works!
Anonymous Finland No.213136927 >>213138385
>>213121536
>>213127801
Thanks, these are good explanations. I wonder how a dialect where ใ˜=ใข=ใš=ใฅ would sound like (the green area on the map).
Same for the purple area where each of them is a distinct sound.
Anonymous United States No.213137267 >>213145741
>>213136714
we say that your phrasing or the thing that you said works, but we don't say that your english works

like,
>is it correct to say...
>[political ideology] is spreading in this country?

>yes, that works
or
>no, that does not work

but not,
>is my english (in general) good?

>yes, your english works
or
>no, your english does not work

but we might refer back to something you said earlier, which makes it unclear, like
>[political ideology] is spreading in this country
>I'm sorry if my english is bad

>don't worry, it works (to say "is spreading in this country")
Anonymous Spain No.213138012
Anonymous Austria No.213138052
>>213134825
ใพใใ€่กŒๅธใ‚‚ๅˆฅใซไป–ใซใ‚„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ—ใญใ€‚ใใ‚Œใซๆ—ฅๆœฌไบบใฃใฆใ€Œใ—ใ“ใ—ใ“ใ€ใจใ‹ใ€Œ่ƒธใซใ‹ใ‘ใฆ่ƒธใซใ€ใจใ‹ใ€Œใ„ใใ„ใใ„ใใ€ใ€ใใ‚“ใชไบŒๅบฆๆ‰‹้–“ๅฅฝใใใ†ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ
Anonymous Austria No.213138385 >>213152538
>>213136927
There's this scene from Nichijou, which you might've seen before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S4wMRM2fpI
> https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ใ‚บใƒผใ‚บใƒผๅผ
> ใ€Œใ—ใ€ๅฏพใ€Œใ™ใ€ใ€ใ€Œใกใ€ๅฏพใ€Œใคใ€ใŠใ‚ˆใณใใฎๆฟ้Ÿณใ€Œใ˜ใ€ๅฏพใ€Œใšใ€(ใ€Œใขใ€ๅฏพใ€Œใฅใ€)ใฎๅŒบๅˆฅใŒใชใ„ๆ–น่จ€
Anonymous United States No.213138821 >>213138921 >>213140025
how many years ago was it that I first posted that clip in response to that question
Anonymous Brazil No.213138921
>>213138821
ใ”่‹ฆๅŠดใ•ใ‚“ๅคงๅคงๅคงๅ…ˆ่ผฉ m(__)m
Anonymous United States No.213139921
we're all just stars floating in space
nothing we do or sat can reach each other across the distances
Anonymous Austria No.213140025
>>213138821
Idk, but iirc it was in response to one of my questions :3
Anonymous Spain No.213141768
Anonymous Mexico No.213144032
sigh
Anonymous Turkey No.213144281
ๅ’ณๆ‰•ใ„
Anonymous United States No.213144540
ใ‚ฏใ‚ฝใƒ‡ใ‚ซใŸใ‚ๆฏ
Anonymous Turkey No.213144678
ใฏใ€่…นๆธ›ใ‚“ใชใ„ใฃใ™ใ‹?
Anonymous United States No.213144984
ใ‚ฆใƒใฏๅŸบๆœฌใ€ๅˆๅพŒใชใซใ‚‚ๅฃใซใ—ใชใ„
Anonymous Turkey No.213145378
ใ‚ใกใใฏๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’ๆฐ—ใซใ—ใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ„ใคใงใ‚‚้ฃŸใˆใ‚‹ใŒไธ€ๆ—ฅไบŒ้ฃŸไปฅไธŠใฏใ‚ใฃใŸใซใชใ„ใฃใ™ใญ
ๅฎŸใฏไปŠใ‚ใฃใกใ‚ƒ่…นๆธ›ใฃใฆใ‚‹ใ‘ใฉ้…’้ฃฒใ‚“ใงใ‚‹ๆœ€ไธญใ ใ‹ใ‚‰้ฃŸใˆใชใ„ใ‚“ใ ใ‚ˆใญใ‡
Anonymous United States No.213145555 >>213147605
Hey guys, is the 30 day guide in the learnjapanese.moe site actually a good resource and is actually reccomended?
Anonymous Japan No.213145741
>>213137267
I see, thank you very much for the answer.
Anonymous Austria No.213147029 >>213147186
Anonymous Japan No.213147186 >>213155802
>>213147029
ไฝ•ใ‚‚่ตทใใชใ„ใฏใšใŒใชใโ€ฆ(๏พŸA๏พŸ;)๏ฝบ๏พž๏ฝธ๏พ˜
Anonymous Turkey No.213147605 >>213147635
>>213145555
It seems mostly okay but there's a few places that are awkward and which you're better off modifying as felt by you while you go through it. I think you can get away with just taking what was written there, changing it as needed according to your needs, and just expanding it all around(example: don't switch to a mining deck after kaishi 1.5 but first switch to another random deck with 3k words instead, only switching to mining afterwards)
What follows are some random thoughts my drunken ass had while reading that thing. A bit late but I should tell you that I've never used that site, had to read through the whole guide to answer you, and never watched cure dolly either.
>There are many, many anime that have simple Japanese.
"Simple" here refers to "not ridiculously complicated", think of the difference between a moege and some fancy detective VN. You'll still get raped by the former when you're just starting out.
>subtitle tutor method
Honestly sounds silly to me but even at the worst you'll just have wasted a few hours. I feel like just watching an anime with simultaneous English & Japanese subs while occasionally pausing to try and grasp the Japanese text would be better. In any case you shouldn't rely on subtitle tutor for long, nor on English subs.
>10 minutes kana practice
Feels too little. If I remember right it took me 2 weeks to learn kana while spending an hour or so on kana practice(on that very same site actually) every 2 days. Don't feel too restricted by the numbers written on that guide, feel free to try kana practice for an hour a day or to try 5 eps of anime or sneak some reading practice despite not being explicitly told to, etc. Make sure you're having fun too.
Anonymous Turkey No.213147635
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm45223185
>>213147605
>reading vs listening
Don't flip a fucking coin, decide what you actually want to know. I completely ignored listening for the first 9 months or a year or so because I simply had no business with it, You don't need to be able to hear shit to be able to read a book or VN or whatever so you should think well about your objectives, what you want to do. Also, reading a lot will carry over to listening due to allowing you to pre-emptively know common sentences, and it is usually far easier to search for words or grammar points in text than in sound.
>passive listening
Never bothered trying it, have heard of maybe 2-3 cases of it supposedly working in my entire life
The idea of "Think of it as filling in the silence with Japanese. Or, listening to Japanese at every possible opportunity. " just feels stupid to me, especially with dedicated "condensed audio" and the like. You presumably have things you want to read or listen to and by paying too much attention to passive listening to shit you don't like, watching cure dolly etc you're decreasing the amount of time you spend with native content you actually enjoy. If you're listening to condensed audio or listening in the background to some shit or whatever there's no real point, you need to be actually interested and of course to pay attention. Regarding this the guide said something along the lines of "even just a few seconds of paying attention to what you're listening to counts!" but what's the fucking point when you're going to be paying attention for maybe 30 seconds of a 10 minute clip? I can comprehend any retarded screeching in the language and I still would maybe pay attention to 1 minute of a 10 minute clip if it's just playing in the background. Try to pay attention as much as possible and to try and comprehend the language as much as possible as well, whether that requires looking up words or grammar points.
Anonymous Turkey No.213148621
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm45223516
Anonymous Turkey No.213149045 >>213150519
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm45223516
Anonymous Turkey No.213150369
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm45218525
ใ„ใ„ใฎใ‹ไธŠใ’ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’ไฟบใ ใ‘ใซไปปใ›ใฆ
ใ“ใฎใพใพใ˜ใ‚ƒใ“ใฎใ‚นใƒฌใƒ›ใƒขใ‚ปใฐใฃใ‹ใซใชใฃใกใพใ†ใžใŠใ„
Anonymous Brazil No.213150519 >>213150589
>>213149045
ๅ‰ใฎๆŠ•็จฟใจๅŒใ˜ใ˜ใ‚ƒใญใˆ?(๏พŸะด๏พŸ)!
Anonymous Turkey No.213150589 >>213150731
>>213150519
ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‡
ใ„ใ‚„ใ‚ใ™ใ‚“ใพใ›ใ‚“ใญใˆๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ
ใ‹ใชใ‚Š้…”ใฃใฆใ‚‹ใ‚“ใงๅ…จ็„ถๆฐ—ไป˜ใ‹ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚“ใ™ใ‚ˆ
่จฑใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ‚ชใƒŠใ‚ทใƒฃใ‚นใชใ‚“ใงใ‚‚ใ—ใพใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰
Anonymous Japan No.213150623 >>213150946
ใ‚“?ไปŠใชใ‚“ใงใ‚‚ใ™ใ‚‹ใฃใฆโ€ฆ(ฮฆฯ‰ฮฆ)๏ฝท๏พž๏พ—๏พ๏ฝฏ
Anonymous Brazil No.213150731 >>213150946
>>213150589
ใ‚“? ไปŠไฝ•ใงใ‚‚ใ™ใ‚‹ใฃใฆ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใญ? ใใ‚“ใชๆฐ—่ปฝใซใใ‚“ใชใ“ใจ่จ€ใ†ใชใ‚ˆ (ใ€‚-`ฯ‰-)
ใƒˆใƒซใ‚ณๅ…„่ฒดไปŠใ‹ใชใ‚Šๆฅฝใ—ใใ†ใญ ใ„ใพใ”ใ‚ใฏใƒ“ใƒผใƒซไธ€ๆœฌใฏๆ‚ชใใชใ„ใช (ๅ†ท่”ตๅบซใซไธ€ๆœฌใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ‘ใฉ)
Anonymous Turkey No.213150946 >>213151101
>>213150623
ๅณ็ญ”ใ‹ใ‚ˆ
>>213150731
>ไปŠใ‹ใชใ‚Šๆฅฝใ—ใใ†ใญ
ใ‚“ใพใ‚ๅคšๅฐ‘ใฏใญ
ใŸใจใˆไปŠๆ—ฅใ ใ‘่ฆ‹ใฆใ‚‚่‰ฒใ€…ใจใ‚ใกใ‚ƒใใกใ‚ƒใ ใ‘ใฉ้…’ใŒใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ‚ดใƒŸใฎๆง˜ใช็Šถๆณใงใ‚‚ใชใ‚“ใจใ‹ใ—ใฆๆฅฝใ—ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใ ใ‚ˆใญ
ๆฏŽๆ—ฅ43ๅบฆ44ๅบฆใฎใ†ใˆไธ‰ๆ—ฅ้–“้€ฃ็ถšใงๅœ้›ปใ‚‚้ฃŸใ‚‰ใฃใŸใ—่‰ฒใ€…ใจ่‹ฆ็—›ใ ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใใฎๅˆ†ใ ใ‘ใ‚นใƒˆใƒฌใ‚นใŒ่งฃใ‚ŒใŸใฎใ‹ใช
ๅฎŸใฏไธ‰ๆ—ฅๅ‰ใซ้ฃฒใ‚€ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใ ใฃใŸใฎใ ใŒๅœ้›ปใฎใŠ้™ฐใงใƒปใƒปใƒป
Anonymous Brazil No.213151101
ใ‚ใฎ้บป้›€ๅฅฝใใƒ‰ใ‚คใƒ„ไบบใฎใ‚ขใƒŽใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใฉใ“ใ„ใฃใกใ‚ƒใฃใŸใ‚ˆ
ๆ™‚ๆŠ˜DJTใฎๅธ‚ๆฐ‘ใจ้บป้›€ใ‚„ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ„ใ„ใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใงใ—ใ‚‡
>>213150946
>ๆฏŽๆ—ฅ43ๅบฆ44ๅบฆใฎใ†ใˆไธ‰ๆ—ฅ้–“้€ฃ็ถšใงๅœ้›ปใ‚‚้ฃŸใ‚‰ใฃใŸใ—
ใŠ็–ฒใ‚Œๆง˜ (; ๏ฝฅ`ะด๏ฝฅยด)
ไฟบใซใจใฃใฆใ“ใ†ใ„ใ†ๅ ดๅˆใชใ‚‰ใ‚ฟใƒใ‚ณใฏใ„ใ„ใจใ“ใ ใž
ใฃใฆใ„ใ†ใ‹ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใ‚ใพใ‚ŠๅŠนใ„ใฆใ„ใชใ„ใ‘ใฉ
Anonymous Brazil No.213151234 >>213151328
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm45125129
Anonymous Japan No.213151328
>>213151234
ใ‚‚ใกใ‚‚ใกใ—ใŸใ„ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‹( ห˜ฯ‰ห˜)๏ฝณ๏พ‘๏ฝฏ
Anonymous Brazil No.213151357
ใŠใพใŸใ› ใ‚ขใ‚คใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใ—ใ‹ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚“ใ ใ‘ใฉ(ใ‚ณใƒผใƒฉใฎไปฃใ‚ใ‚Šใซ)ใ„ใ„ใ‹ใช
Anonymous Japan No.213151455 >>213151639
็ ‚็ณ–ใจใƒŸใƒซใ‚ฏใฏใฒใจใคใšใคใงใ‚ชใƒŠใ‚ทใƒฃใ‚น(*ยดฯ‰๏ฝ€*)
Anonymous Brazil No.213151639
>>213151455
ใ‚ขใ‚คใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒผใฏใƒŸใƒซใ‚ฏใ‚’ๅ…ฅใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใ‚“ใ ใฃใŸใฎ?
ใใ‚Œใฏใœใ‚“ใœใ‚“็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใชใ‹ใฃใŸ ( ^^) _ๆ—ฆ~~
Anonymous Turkey No.213152499
Anonymous Finland No.213152538
>>213138385
That's a nice clip, thanks. I actually haven't watched Nichijou. There are a lot of classics I haven't had the time to watch yet.
Anonymous Japan No.213154218
ใ—ใซใใ†
Anonymous Norway No.213154270
ๆ—ฉใๆบถใ‘่ฝใกใชใ„ใ†ใกใซๅฝผๅฅณใ‚’่ˆใ‚ใ‚!
ใบใ‚ใบใ‚(ยดโˆ€๏ฝ€=)
Anonymous Norway No.213155117
ๅƒ้€†
Anonymous United States No.213155246
ๅ—็„ก่ฆณไธ–้Ÿณ่ฉ่–ฉ
Anonymous Austria No.213155802
>>213147186
>ใ‚จใƒƒใƒใชใƒŠใƒžใƒขใƒŽใฃใฆใ‚ใฃใกใ‚ƒๅ†ทใ‚ใพใ™ใ‘ใฉใญ
Anonymous Japan No.213156704
ใ‚นใƒฌๅ†ทใ‚ใชใ„ใง! (ยด;ฯ‰;๏ฝ€)๏ฝณ๏ฝฏโ€ฆ
Anonymous Austria No.213157163 >>213157722
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lOAT0yuCvQ
้‹ๅ‹•ใงใƒ’ใƒผใƒˆใ‚ขใƒƒใƒ—ใ—ใพSHOW
Anonymous Japan No.213157722 >>213157910 >>213159243
>>213157163
>Make you happy
Nothing but yuri makes me happy...
Anonymous Austria No.213157910 >>213159243
>>213157722
Hope this makes you happy! ใ‚ฒใ‚คใ ใ‘ใซ~
Anonymous Sweden No.213159011 >>213159243
ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏ่ฒ ใ‘ใŸ
Anonymous Norway No.213159243 >>213159359 >>213159627 >>213159661
>>213157722
็™พๅˆใฏไธ–็•Œใ‚’ๆ”ฏ้…ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใจใ™ใ‚‹
ๆˆ‘ใ€…็™พๅˆๅŽจใฏ่ฒ ใ‘ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใซใฏใ„ใใพใ„ใ€ไธ–็•Œใ‚’้ฉๅ‘ฝใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซ!

ๆฅใšใ‹ใ—ใ„ใชใŒใ‚‰(ๅ˜˜ใ ใ€ๆฅ็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใšใง็™พๅˆใƒ•ใ‚กใƒณ)ใ€็ฟป่จณใ•ใ‚Œใฆใชใ„็™พๅˆใƒŽใƒ™ใƒซใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใ‚’่ชญใ‚€ใŸใ‚ใซๆ—ฅๆœฌ่ชžใ‚’ๅญฆใ‚“ใ 

>>213157910
็™พๅˆไปฒ้–“ใฉใ†ใƒผใ ใ‚ใ ใ“ใ„ใค
ใ€Œๆˆฆๅ›ฝใฎ้ป’็™พๅˆใ€ใฎ็ฌฌไธ€่ฉฑใฏ่ชญใ‚“ใ ใ‘ใฉ(๏ฟฃโ–ฝ๏ฟฃ;)

>>213159011
ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ€ๅพŒๆ—ฅใฏๆบ€็‚นใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚‹
Anonymous Japan No.213159346 >>213159543 >>213159627 >>213159661
This isn't really a question, but I came across the following passage:
>If, for in stance, I determine the wight of each stone in a bed of pebbles and get an average weight of 145 grams, this tells me very little about the real nature of the pebbles. Similarly, in human psychology, a mass of data tells us nothing of the individual.
>a pebble
>145 gram (average)
Is this because native English speakers are not familiar with the metric system?
Anonymous Sweden No.213159359
>>213159243
ใใ‚Œใฏไฟกใ˜ใŸใ„
Anonymous Sweden No.213159543 >>213159790 >>213160005 >>213162325
>>213159346
ใปใจใ‚“ใฉใฎใƒใ‚คใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’่ฉฑใ™ไบบใ€…ใŒใƒกใƒผใƒˆใƒซๆณ•ใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹
Anonymous Austria No.213159627
>>213159243
ใ‚ใฆ็™พๅˆ็ญ้•ทใ‚„ใงใ€œ

>>213159346
>a pebble
>145 gram (average)
Seems reasonable, no?
Anonymous Austria No.213159661 >>213160005
>>213159243
ใ‚ใฆ็™พๅˆๅคงๅฐ†่ปใ‚„ใงใ€œ

>>213159346
>a pebble
>145 gram (average)
Seems reasonable, no?
Anonymous Sweden No.213159790 >>213162325
>>213159543
ใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซไบบใฏๅฐๅญฆๆ กใงใƒกใƒผใƒˆใƒซๆณ•ใ‚’ๆ•™ใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹
Anonymous Japan No.213160005 >>213160117 >>213160132
>>213159543
>>213159661
Isn't it too heavy?
Anonymous Sweden No.213160117 >>213160730
>>213160005
็Ÿณใฏ้‡Ž่œใ‚ˆใ‚Šๅฏ†ๅบฆใŒ้ซ˜ใ„ใญ?
Anonymous Austria No.213160132 >>213160730
>>213160005
Pebbles come in all shapes and sizes~
>Isn't it too heavy?
Sounds like you're asking if 145g is too heavy for it to be a pebble, but judging from the image you attached I think you mean the opposite?
Anonymous Turkey No.213160522
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Anonymous Japan No.213160730 >>213160810 >>213162943
>>213160132
>>213160117
The picrel is a total of 100 grams of crystal fragments. When a stone weighs 1.5 times this, is it counted as a "pebble"?
Anonymous Sweden No.213160810 >>213162010 >>213162522
>>213160730
there is no specific weight requirement for a stone to be a pebble, pebble is just another word for a small stone.

the passage from your original post is just saying that knowing the average weight of the stones doesnt tell you much about each individual stone!
Anonymous Japan No.213161392 >>213162325
Speaking of a unit of measurement, how common is the metric system in the United States?
I've heard that the imperial system is still mainstream over there except for the field of science.
Anonymous Japan No.213162010
>>213160810
I may be too autistic about it and I didn't expect to get into such technical details, but at least academically, it seems that there are different names for small stones depending on their size.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble
>A pebble is a clast of rock with a particle size of 4โ€“64 mm (0.16โ€“2.52 in) based on the Udden-Wentworth scale of sedimentology. Pebbles are generally considered larger than granules (2โ€“4 mm (0.079โ€“0.157 in) in diameter) and smaller than cobbles (64โ€“256 mm (2.5โ€“10.1 in) in diameter).
According to this description, assuming a specific gravity of 2 grams per cubic centimeter, a cube-shaped "pebble" could weigh up to roughly 500 (2*(6.4)^3) grams.

That's said, in riverbeds where "pebble beds" form naturally, scattered stones have been broken down or rounded by the flow of water, and in order to be carried away by the flow of water, they must inevitably be below a certain mass. I guess this is what most people typically imagine when they think of pebbles in bed.

I'm not sure how reliable the following answers are (they are not even unanimous), but some values are given for the weight of "pebbles".
>https://brainly.com/question/5283759
>How much does a pebble weigh in grams?
>1.Textbook & Expert-Verified
Chemistry - Paul Flowers
Chemistry 2e - Paul Flowers, Klaus Theopold, Richard Langley, William R. Robinson
The average weight of a pebble is around 5 to 20 grams, depending on its size and material.

>2.Community Answer
The weight of a pebble is around 243 grams, commonly measured in grams, similar to the weight of 5 pennies, which weigh about 12.5 grams combined.

>3.Generated by ChatGPT
The weight of a pebble can vary widely depending on its size and composition. Generally, pebbles can weigh anywhere from a few grams to several hundred grams. A typical small pebble might weigh around 5 to 20 grams, while larger pebbles could weigh up to 100 grams or more.
Anonymous Japan No.213162325 >>213162458 >>213163288
>>213161392
ใ‚นใ‚ฆใ‚งใƒ€ใƒŽใƒณใŒๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ‚ŒใŸใ‘ใฉ
>>213159543
>>213159790
ๆ—ฅๅธธใงใฏใ‚„ใฃใฑใ‚Šใƒคใƒผใƒ‰ใƒใƒณใƒ‰ๆณ•ใŒๆ™ฎ้€šใชใ‚“ใ ใ‚ใ†ใชใจใŠใ‚‚ใ†
็งใฎๅฆ„ๆƒณใ ใ‘ใฉ

ใ›ใฃใ‹ใใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚ใชใŸใซใ‚‚่žใ„ใฆใฟใŸใ„ใ‚“ใ ใ‘ใฉ
pebble(=noun:
a small stone made smooth and round by the action of water or sand.(by OED))1ๅ€‹ใŒๅนณๅ‡145ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ ใฃใฆไธ€่ˆฌ็š„ใชๆ„Ÿ่ฆšใจใ—ใฆ้‡ใŸใ™ใŽใ‚“?
2ไบบใ‹ใ‚‰ๅ่ซ–ใ•ใ‚Œใฆ่‡ชไฟกใŒใ‚ใŸใ‚ใŸใซๆบใ‚‰ใ„ใงใ„ใ‚‹โ€ฆ
Anonymous Japan No.213162458
>>213162325
ๆบใ‚‹ใŽใชใ(๏ผพฯ‰๏ผพ)๏พ๏พŸ๏พ›๏พ๏พŸ๏พ›
Anonymous Japan No.213162522 >>213162943 >>213164277 >>213164423 >>213167740
>>213160810
>the passage from your original post is just saying that knowing the average weight of the stones doesnt tell you much about each individual stone!
Yes, obviously the specific weight is of no importance to the author's point. I just found the number odd, which I assumed may have something to do with the author's unfamiliarity with metric system.
Anonymous Austria No.213162943 >>213164277 >>213164409 >>213165120
>>213160730
>>213162522
There are also bigger pebbles out there, like the ones in gardening
>although the original wording is "stone in a bed of pebbles"
Anonymous Austria No.213162976
๏ฝท๏พ๏ฝผ๏พ€๏พœ๏ฝฐ
Anonymous Japan No.213163288 >>213164277
>>213162325
>1ๅ€‹ใŒๅนณๅ‡145ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ ใฃใฆไธ€่ˆฌ็š„ใชๆ„Ÿ่ฆšใจใ—ใฆ้‡ใŸใ™ใŽใ‚“?
ไป•ไบ‹ใง่พฒไฝœ็‰ฉใฎ่จˆ้‡ใจๆขฑๅŒ…ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‘ใฉใ€145gใฏ็ตๆง‹่ปฝใ„ๆ–นใ ใจๆ€ใ†ใ€‚
ไพ‹ใˆใฐใ€ใ‚ตใƒ‹ใƒผใƒฌใ‚ฟใ‚นใ‚„ใ‚ฑใƒผใƒซ(็”Ÿ้ฃŸ็”จ)ใฎ่‘‰ใ‚’ใƒ‡ใ‚ธใ‚ฟใƒซ่จˆ้‡ๅ™จใซไน—ใ›ใ‚‹ใจใ€(่‘‰ใฎๅคงใใ•ใซใ‚‚ใ‚ˆใ‚‹ใ‘ใฉ)ใŠใ‚ˆใ8ๆžš~10ๆžšใง100g่ถ…ใˆใกใ‚ƒใ†ใ€‚
ใ‚ตใƒ„ใƒžใ‚คใƒขใชใ‚“ใฆๅคงใใ„ใ‚„ใคใ ใจ1ๅ€‹ใง400g่ถ…ใˆใฏๅฝ“ใŸใ‚Šๅ‰ใ ใ—ใญใ€‚
ใ‚ตใƒ„ใƒžใ‚คใƒข1ๅ€‹ใง145gใ ใจๅฐใถใ‚Šใ‹ใช~ใจๆ€ใ†ใ€‚
ใใ‚ŒใŒ็Ÿณ1ๅ€‹ใฎ้‡ใ•ใ ใฃใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใชใŠใ•ใ‚‰่ปฝใ„ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใ€‚
Anonymous Japan No.213164277 >>213164317 >>213164409 >>213165373
>>213162943
>There are also bigger pebbles out there, like the ones in gardening
>>although the original wording is "stone in a bed of pebbles"
And it's also mentioned that "get an average weight of 145 grams", which cannot be achieved if such larger ones are exceptional but dominant there.
Again,
>obviously the specific weight is of no importance to the author's point. I just found the number odd, (>>213162522)
though.

>>213163288
>ใใ‚ŒใŒ็Ÿณ1ๅ€‹ใฎ้‡ใ•ใ ใฃใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใชใŠใ•ใ‚‰่ปฝใ„ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใ€‚
ใชใ‚‹ใปใฉ
ๅคšๆ•ฐๆฑบ็š„ใซใฏ็งใฎใปใ†ใŒๆ„Ÿ่ฆšใŒใšใ‚Œใฆใ‚‹ใฟใŸใ„ใงใ™ใญ
Anonymous Japan No.213164317
>>213164277
>if such larger ones are exceptional, not* dominant there.
Anonymous Austria No.213164409 >>213165120 >>213165120
>>213164277
>which cannot be achieved if such larger ones are exceptional but dominant there.
What stops that from being the case? Like in >>213162943

>to be honest I think it's just a random number they chose
Anonymous Sweden No.213164423 >>213165120
>>213162522
ๅคšๅˆ†ๅƒ•ใฏใƒใ‚ซใ ใ‘ใฉใ“ใฎๆ•ฐๅญ—ใŒใƒกใƒผใƒˆใƒซๆณ•ใซๆ…ฃใ‚Œใฆใ„ใชใ„ใจใฏๆ€ใ‚ใชใ„
Anonymous Japan No.213165120 >>213165231
>>213164409
>What stops that from being the case? Like in >>213162943
Sorry, I mistakenly thought that you were drawing attention to the gray stones scattered throughout in the picture. Please ignore posts about averages and such.

>>213164409
>>213164423

Understood. I didn't know anything about what the word "pebble" means.
Thank you anons for the correction.
Anonymous Sweden No.213165231
>>213165120
Anonymous Austria No.213165325
Anonymous Japan No.213165373 >>213165968
>>213164277
>็งใฎใปใ†ใŒๆ„Ÿ่ฆšใŒใšใ‚Œใฆใ‚‹ใฟใŸใ„
ๅˆฅใซใใ‚“ใชใซๆฐ—ใซใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใฏใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ†ใ€‚
ใ‚ฐใƒฉใƒ ๆ•ฐใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆ้‡ใ„ใ‹่ปฝใ„ใ‹ใฏไธป่ฆณ็š„ใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏ็›ธๅฏพ็š„ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ ใ—ใ€Œ้‡ใ„ใ€ใจๆ€ใ†ไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใ‚Œใฐใ€Œ่ปฝใ„ใ€ใจๆ€ใ†ไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใ‚‹ใ€‚
ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒใ€Œ้‡ใ„ใ€ใจๆ€ใฃใŸใ‚‰ๅˆฅใซใใ‚Œใงใ„ใ„ใจๆ€ใ†ใ€‚
ๅ‘จๅ›ฒใฎไบบใจ่ฆ‹่งฃใŒ้•ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใจใ„ใฃใฆใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ้–“้•ใฃใฆใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใ‚‚ๆ‚ชใ„ใ‚ใ‘ใงใ‚‚ๅค‰ใชใ“ใจใงใ‚‚ใชใ„ใ€‚
่‰ฒใ‚“ใช่€ƒใˆใ‚„่ฆ‹่งฃใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใ ใจๆ€ใ†ใ‚ˆใ€‚
Anonymous Australia No.213165653
>>213121410
you should listen to examples of old and middle japanese
Anonymous United States No.213165771
ๅ—็„ก่ฆณไธ–้Ÿณ่ฉ่–ฉ
ๅ—็„ก่ฆณไธ–้Ÿณ่ฉ่–ฉ
Anonymous United States No.213165884
Pebbles and stones
Anonymous Japan No.213165968
>>213165373
ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†
Anonymous Denmark No.213166840 >>213167409 >>213170125
What's the right term for small pupils in japanese?
Like for 2D girls like this one. I mistakenly used ไธ‰็™ฝ็œผ more than a couple times for it, but that's clearly not the right term. There's also ๅ››็™ฝ็œผ, but I don't know if that's right.

If I want to go on pixiv and find more characters like this, what would be the right tag for it?
Anonymous Japan No.213167409 >>213167632
>>213166840
>I mistakenly used ไธ‰็™ฝ็œผ more than a couple times for it, but that's clearly not the right term.
Really? I can't come up with anything else for it, and searching for ไธ‰็™ฝ็œผ returns 4,803 results in pixiv.
Anonymous Denmark No.213167632
>>213167409
Huh, maybe that is the right term for it then. I just thought ไธ‰็™ฝ็œผ was meant to be used like in pic rel.
Or maybe nobody decided on a term for it, so they just used ไธ‰็™ฝ็œผ.
Anyway, thank you, this will surely ๅ‚่€ƒใซใชใ‚‹.
Anonymous Brazil No.213167740
>>213162522
ใ‚ขใƒชใ‚นใกใ‚ƒใ‚“ใฎ่ƒธใซใ‹ใ‘ใŸใ„่ƒธใซ ๏พœ๏ฝต๏ฝต๏ฝต ๏ฝฒ๏ฝธ๏ฝฟ๏พž
Anonymous United States No.213168500
ๅตใ‹ใ‘ใ”้ฃฏใซ็ด่ฑ†ใซใ‚ญใƒ ใƒ
Anonymous Norway No.213168867 >>213168986
ใ—ใ‚ƒใฃใใ‚ŠใŒๆˆปใฃใฆใใŸ(>ไบบ<;)
ๆ—ฅๆœฌใงไฝ•ใฎ่งฃใๆ–นๆณ•ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎ?
Anonymous Turkey No.213168940
ๆš‘ใ™ใŽใฆใชใ‚“ใ‚‚้ฃŸใˆใญใˆใ‚ˆ
Anonymous Norway No.213168986
>>213168867
By the way in the west I have often heard silly things like stand upside down for 1 minute, hold your breath for 1 minute, get really spooked. I don't think any of them works though.
Anonymous United States No.213169099 >>213169321
easiest way is to hold in a deep breath while taking a long drink of water
just have to put constant pressure on your air and food passages for a brief period to reset your breathing cycle, doesn't require flipping around
Anonymous Norway No.213169321
>>213169099
ใ‚„ใฃใฆใฟใ‚ˆใ†ใจๆ€ใ†
ใใ‚Œใงใ‚‚ๆ–‡ๅŒ–ใฎ้•ใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ๆ—ฅๆœฌใงไฝ•ใ‹้ข็™ฝใ„ๆ–นๆณ•ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใชใจๆ€ใฃใฆ่žใใŸใ„ใงใ™ใ‘ใฉ
Anonymous Norway No.213169386
ใˆใฃๆญขใ‚ใŸ
Anonymous Norway No.213169500
ใ—ใ‚ƒใฃใใ‚ŠใŒๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใพใ ๆˆปใฃใฆใ“ใชใ„ใ€ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†
Anonymous Denmark No.213169857 >>213169988 >>213170125
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ling_Tosite_Sigure
>ใ—ใใ‚Œใจใฏใ€ๆ™ฉ็ง‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅˆๅ†ฌใซใ‹ใ‘ใฆใ€ใฑใ‚‰ใฑใ‚‰ใจ้™ใฃใฆใฏใ‚„ใ‚€ใ€ไธ€ๆ™‚็š„ใช้€šใ‚Š้›จใ€‚
is ใฏใ‚„ใ‚€ a separate word here? If not, what is the ใฃใฆใฏ supposed to indicate?
I know the meaning is starts to rain and then suddenly stops, but I don't really get why it's written like that.
Anonymous Austria No.213169988 >>213177411
>>213169857
It's ้™ใ‚‹+ใ‚„ใ‚€. You can use ใฆ form + ใฏ to indicate repetition
>https://ja.wiktionary.org/wiki/ใฏ
>ๆŽฅ็ถšๅŠฉ่ฉžใฎใฆใ€ใงใซใคใ„ใฆใ€็นฐใ‚Š่ฟ”ใ—ใ‚’่กจใ™ใ€‚
>ๅฏ„ใ›ใฆใฏ่ฟ”ใ™ๆณขใฎ้Ÿณใ€‚
>ๅฐ‘ใ—่ชญใ‚“ใงใฏ่€ƒใˆใ€ใพใŸ่ชญใ‚“ใงใฏ่€ƒใˆใŸใ€‚
Anonymous Japan No.213170125 >>213177411
>>213166840
A pupil in the sense of the circular black spot in the center of an eye is called ็žณๅญ”(ใฉใ†ใ“ใ†) in Japanese, but this term is often used in the field of medical and gives the formal impression.
If you were a doctor and confirmed someone's pupils were dilated, you could say ็žณๅญ”ใŒ้–‹ใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚‹.
In everyday conversation, I find ็žณ(ใฒใจใฟ) or ้ป’็›ฎ(ใใ‚ใ‚) more common and less medical, so if you explain to someone that you like anime characters with small pupils, then it would be better off saying ็žณใฎๅฐใ•ใ„ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒฉใŒๅฅฝใ or ้ป’็›ฎใฎๅฐใ•ใ„ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒฉๅฅฝใ.

>>213169857
As the Austrian anon already answered, the ใฆใฏ here expresses repetition of two actions.
I mean, ้›จใŒ้™ใ‚‹(the rain falls) and ้›จใŒๆญขใ‚€(the rain stops).
Anonymous Austria No.213171792 >>213172008
>>213119498 (OP)
ไธ‰่ฑ(Sampoon)็ฅ่ณ€ใฎๆ—ฅใŒๅฟ˜ใ‚ŒใŸใ€‚ใ€‚ใ€‚
ไธ–็•Œใ€ใ„ใ„ใˆใ€ๅฎ‡ๅฎ™ใฎๆœ€้ซ˜ใฎๆ—ฅใŒๅฟ˜ใ‚ŒใŸใ€‚ใ€‚ใ€‚
ไฟบใฎ่„ณๅคใ„ใซใชใฃใŸใ€‚ใ‚‚ใ—ไบบ็จฎๅทฎๅˆฅ็š„ใชๅคงๅˆ‡ใฎ็‰ฉใ‚’่ฆšใˆใชใ„ใ€ๅ…จใฆ็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใ ใšใ€‚
Anonymous Sweden No.213171945 >>213172769
ๆฏŽๆ—ฅใ‚ขใƒณใ‚ญใ—ใฆใ€DJTใงๆ—ฅๆœฌไบบใจ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ€ๆผซ็”ปใ‚’่ชญใ‚“ใงใ€ใ‚ขใƒ‹ใƒกใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚Œใฐๆ—ฅๆœฌ่ชžใ‚’ใใฃใจๅญฆในใ‚‹!
Anonymous Norway No.213172008 >>213172603
>>213171792
>ใ ใš
ไฝ•ใ“ใ‚Œ?ใงใ™?ใฏใš?ใ ?
ใ€Œใšใ€ใ‚’ๅซใ‚ใฆใ€Œใ ใ€ใฎ่ชคๅญ—?
Anonymous United States No.213172427
็ž‘ๆƒณใ‚‚ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใšใซ
Anonymous Austria No.213172603 >>213172769
>>213172008
่พฒๅฎถๆ–น่จ€+ๅˆ†่ฃ‚็—‡
Anonymous Norway No.213172769
>>213171945
ๆฏŽๆ—ฅไธ€ๆ—ฅไธญๆ—ฅๆœฌ่ชžใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใŸใ‚‰ใใฃใจไธŠๆ‰‹ใซใชใ‚Œใ‚‹
ไธ€ไบบๆšฎใ‚‰ใ—ใชใ‚‰่ฒทใ„็‰ฉใซ่กŒใใŸใณใซใƒฉใ‚ธใ‚ช็•ช็ต„ใ‚’่žใ„ใฆใฟใŸ?้€šๅ‹คใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹้–“ใซใ‚‚ใ„ใ„็ทด็ฟ’ๆฉŸไผšใ ใจๆ€ใ†ใ€ใฉใ†ใ›ใใฎๆ™‚ใฏๆ™ฎ้€šใซไฝ•ใ‚‚ใ—ใฆใ„ใชใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†?่ปŠใง้€šๅ‹คใ—ใŸใ‚‰่ปŠใ‚’้‹่ปขใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹้–“ใซไบ‹ๆ•…ใ‚’่ตทใ“ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆฐ—ใ‚’ใคใ‘ใฆใ‘ใฉ

>>213172603
ใชใ‚‹ใปใฉใ€ใ„ใ„ๅ‚่€ƒใซใชใ‚‹ใ€‚
Anonymous Austria No.213174278 >>213174418
>>213120812
ๅŠฉใ‘ใฆ่›ฎๅฉฆ
Anonymous United States No.213174418 >>213176804
>>213174278
I don't know what dialect she's speaking because there isn't enough data from that one image but in certain western dialects like (especially) ๅœŸไฝๅผ they use ใŒ as a sentence ending particle the way ๆจ™ๆบ–่ชž uses ใฎ
(with the same relationship between ใŒ-ใฎ as all the other ones, like possessive particle, etc.)
so if it's ๅœŸไฝๅผ or similar she's just saying ใฃใฆ่จ€ใ†ใฎใ‹
Anonymous Spain No.213174546
Anonymous Spain No.213176386
Anonymous Austria No.213176804
>>213174418
Not sure who she is, but afaik she isn't speaking any dialect. However they're based in ๆ „ and looking it up ๅๅคๅฑ‹ๅผ seems to have the ๅผท่ชฟใƒปๆ„Ÿๅ‹• ending particle ใŒ so I guess it might be this, although I cannot find any instances of it with ใŒใ‹โ€ฆ
ใ ใ‚“ใ‘!
Anonymous Denmark No.213177411 >>213178444
>>213169988
>>213170125
Repetition as in it falls, stops and then that process starts over? Dumb question I know, but I'd never guessed that personally.
Anonymous Austria No.213178444
>>213177411
Yeah like the rain is intermittent
Anonymous Turkey No.213179607
NHKใฏใƒ›ใƒข
Anonymous Turkey No.213182214
10
Anonymous Brazil No.213182305 >>213182822
้ขจ้‚ชใ‚’ๅผ•ใ„ใŸใœ(ยดใƒปฯ‰:;.:โ€ฆ
ใŠใ‚„ใ™ใฟใชใ•ใ„
Anonymous Norway No.213182446
ๅฐฟ้“
Anonymous Norway No.213182469
wait this isnt a dictionary what am i doing
Anonymous Turkey No.213182822
>>213182305
ๆญปใชใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใญ
Anonymous Brazil No.213182860 >>213183431
ใ›ใ„ใˆใ ใ›ใ„ใˆใ ใ›ใ„ใˆใ ใ›ใ„ใˆใ
ๅญๅฎฎใซๆณจใ’ใ‚‹ใจ
่…นใŒ ่…นใŒ ่…นใŒ ่…นใŒ
ใƒ‡ใ‚ซใใชใ‚‹
Anonymous Japan No.213183431
>>213182860
ใƒ–ใƒฉใ‚ธใƒซ้ขจ้‚ชใฃใฆใ‚จใƒญใ„ใ‚“ใ ใชใ(ใ†ฯ‰ใ†*)
ๅฎ‰้™ใซใ—ใฆboa noite( ห˜ฯ‰ห˜)๏ฝฝ๏พ”๏ฝง