Thread 213676913

The pics are taken in different times.

sovl

>>213676913 (OP)
What purpose do those aluminum foil tubes serve

Is a doomwalk like an incelwalk?

>>213676913 (OP)
>>213676921
>>213676968
>>213677008
>>213677048
>>213677083
why does it look like half life 2

>>213677062
Communications. The ground is to soft here, they can be damaged if burried.

>>213677129
Oh ok

>>213677062
central heating with its insulation, hot water circulated to all commie blocks and such. old commie proverb
>none shall freeze to death under communism
however you cant really adjust it so if it gets 25+ in late spring its still pumping out heat and if it gets cold in summer good luck its turned off.

>>213677203
Still looks dystopian as hell.

Looks like Stalker the video game.

>>213676913 (OP)
is this in the UA part or RU part?

Post soviet SOOOVL

>>213677104
many such cases

>>213677950
Dnipro.

And this is how the one coping with living in such an... environment.

>>213678169
win 7 chad

>>213678721
The pic is from 2k18. Now I use shitty 11...

>>213678169
>worms 4 mayhem
gigabased

>>213676913 (OP)
i used to live in a town that had oil reffineries. pipes like this would pop up all over the city it was kino

>>213678169
>sushi in wartime
did you also get it delivered by a jeet on an electric bicycle? society has fallen...

>>213678169
Enjoy your water ghost bro

>>213676913 (OP)
Grim

>>213676913 (OP)
>>213677129
Neat. I used to be a communications worker that laid a lot of cable and I've never seen it done like this. Even in cold environments we just put in through PVC conduit underground and left it alone.

>>213681577
Slaves dont have pvc

looks better than this shithole

>>213676913 (OP)
it's just like Stalker

slavic depression kino is unironically kinda comfy

>>213678135
whats that house on stilts for

>>213678135
Does it really matter if Putler would own all that instead of Jewslensky?

How many millions more must die for the shed on stilts?

I'm really sorry, Anon. If I lived in a barren shithole commieblock town, I'd probably kill myself. Stay strong.

>>213676913 (OP)
that place looks fun to explore

Pure sovl

>>213677386
SOVL

>>213677778
how come these buried tires still have paint on them? isn't that going to come off in less than a year of people using them to sit on?

>>213678135
What is the house on stilts?

I remember that kind of building from a specific moment in Stalker: Clear Sky somehow, right before you climb the hill to attack the building site.

Why Europe looks so poor?

Do you live in a commieblock? Do you rent, or live with parents, or what?

(if you don't mind me asking)

>>213676913 (OP)
amazing, almost 40 years since the fall of the soviet union, and it looks like there hasn't been any infrastructure maintained or built since then.

>>213684177
You should ask Putin, he's the one who started it even though there are likely thousands of shed on stilts in Russia already.
I doubt he'd give you a coherent answer that doesn't involve the mythical eternal anglo-saxon and a distorted view of Polish history though.

>>213677008
>>213676968
>>213676913 (OP)
>>213677194
>>213677167
stalker ahh landmarks ngl. did stalker draw inspiration from eastern erurope?

>>213687287
>did stalker draw inspiration from eastern erurope?

sovl overload

>>213686393
europe isn’t a country

I have some similar pictures from Zaporizhzhya. Gonna dump 'em here

This all is 500m away from the city's heart, btw. The town hall is one street away, 700 000 people used to live there in 2001

If you look close enough you will notice the poor man looking for stuff in the garbage dump in the center

>>213687869
>>213687843
>>213687792

Happiest Photos of East Germany.

>>213687904
Zaporizhzhya is a Ukrainian city, my lil stable genius

>>213687869
that car would be a good album cover

>>213687898
I do that sometimes. I found a whole ECM for a Harley Davidson once. Do Germans also throw away working engine components?

You can see that all of the windows above the 1st floor are 100% made of wood, and that's not a fashion choice. Only the business on the 1st floor was wealthy enough to afford plastic windows.

>>213678169
Your position has been triangulated and forwarded to the Russian military, a Geran is incoming.

>>213687925
>Zaporizhzhya
Founded by Russia btw.

>>213687925
My sincerest apologies, unfortunately, to us Americans, any photo from Europe with a dark sky in the background is automatically either a former soviet state or the soviet union.

Winter in Ukraine looks infinitely better because it hides all the mud, needless and extreme poverty. This park also looks worse now because the morons replaced the dead tree in the middle of the (frozen) lake and put a dirt-cheap plastic house for ducks. Looks tacky as hell

>>213687925
outrageous soul

>>213688090
Wow, even in Ukraine, the people in charge of the cities make bone retarded decisions. It's almost like we aren't so different after all.

>>213687980
Did not check but second-hand electronics are fairly cheap in Germany, I can imagine that in rural areas without hordes of homeless or immigrants you might find some gold.

Markets like this are extremely popular with poor people because most Ukrainians can't afford to buy goods in proper malls. A simply jacket may worth between a half and an entire monthly paycheck of the average schmuck, so people often go to buy clothes and groceries in "bazaars"

>>213688191
If it's second-hand and in a store, that's where it logically ends up outside of a dumpster. Also nice Mallard photo. I will be using it as my wallpaper.

Markets like this are extremely popular with poor people because most Ukrainians can't afford to buy goods in proper malls. A simple jacket may be worth between a half and an entire monthly paycheck of the average schmuck, so people often go to buy clothes and groceries in "bazaars"

Feels like half life

>>213688286
I think Half Life 2 took place in Belarus, which is just north of Ukraine.

Usually the bazaars are overflowing with people but this one was on the day when most traders are not present and there's almost no customers. At night there's no lighting, I wonder why I have never seen a place like that used for a horror game or a movie

The roads for walking in Ukraine are paved and cracked as hell, it's an extremely pathetic sight. Pity the women walking on heels, the only advantage of such """roads""" is that you are not sinking in mud after rain

Looks passable when you don't pay attention to the crumbling infrastructure, the remnants of a more advanced civilization. Ukraine was poorer than Albania and as corrupt as Russia before the war, infrastructure ""repairs"" have always been one of the nicest ways to graft

One of the few patches of road in the town that did not look like it was used by a tank army.

Ukrainians love to LARP as Turks, btw. One nation, one economy, one Führer

>>213688336
its reference shots are from sofia bulgaria

comfy thread

What a shithole. Incredible.

>>213689386
People are dying for this, the country is taking more debts up the wazoo and then Westoids expect you to say thank you (thank you for all the Ukrainian women in the EU)

>>213689685
The problem is that being under russian occupation is still much worse. Just need to look at the state of DPR and LPR even before 2022. Also I fucking hate women so much it's unreal. Why are they all such sociopathic whores?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=w7GTLIhNO1g
good thread, i was listening to it all along

>>213689685
Ok the war sucks and everything, sure. But imagine how kino it will be soon. The more dystopian it looks the more kino incel walks become. Add to that war kino and it's just perfect
Thank you Ukraine anon for the photos.
>Urrghh duuuh the country is at war people are dying this isn't kino thoughever.
At least Ukraine is still majority white unlike big European cities. I'd wager Ukraine has a brighter future than the rest of Europe unironically

>>213686429
just like when the belgium congo fell, it went back to what it was before the colonists arrived almost instantly. insane.

>>213681577
yeah same here. Buried conduit. The other day we had a english backpacker say he knows how to operate a digger and he ripped out a shitton of electrical cabling kek. Do you get backpackrs?

We still have places like this.

k

anon is living the stalker experience IRL. How much do artifacts sell for?

>>213689892
touch soil

Can I move to Ukraine

>thread still lives
Wow.

>>213682792
Pigeon house.

>>213691950
Why would you want to live in Half-Life/Stalker?

>>213676913 (OP)
I thought it was Yakutsk anon before I opened the thread. kek

>>213693259
SOVL
I remember liking to watch them back in the childhood. There were a few in my micro-district. Nowadays they almost extinct.

Good hunting stalker

>>213691917
That's just life in eastern yuropoo nothing special.

>>213687287
>did stalker draw inspiration from eastern erurope?

>>213689685
Thank you god keep sending us poor ukrainian hoties

>>213688042
Ukraine IS a former Soviet state. They gained independence in 1991, when the Soviet Union dissolved.

>>213680416
>filename
>>213678169
Ever thought about emigrating if life in Ukraine is so bad? I know now might be difficult but maybe in the future when the war stops. There's a lot of Ukrainians abroad already, you can find communities that will help you.

>>213678169
true poverty, still using utorrent

>>213694421
every single town in ex-ussr has this exact building, why is that

pic from my walk
ex-yugo is ex-ussr but warmer

>>213676913 (OP)
>aboveground pipes everywhere
>even in residential areas
That's the most soviet thing ever. Soulful.

>>213695767
we don't have such fancy structures in the ussr

yugo is way richer. your commieblocks look much nicer and sturdier. your cities are much better looking.

>>213695810
this

>>213695767
nigga I'm first world and I would kill to have an apartment in such a sturdy, solid commieblock

Here apartments fall apart the second you buy them and the building company will just shut down so you cannot sue them

>>213695914
>Here apartments fall apart the second you buy them and the building company will just shut down so you cannot sue them
What the fuck? This is only supposed to happen in our third world shithole, not in the first world paradise

Kyiv and Sapporo, a city in Japan, have similar winter climates, yet Kyiv's cityscape feels so much more bleak. Why is there such a stark difference in their appearance?

>>213695939
One is rich, the other is poor. Simple as.

>>213677277
>however you cant really adjust it
Who told you that?

>>213695750
My potato cousin in christ please look at pic related. It's the standard collective farm "kolhoz" building.

>>213695791
i thought that’s a thing only in permafrost

>>213676913 (OP)
>>213676921
>>213676968
>>213677008
Are these old photos or is it already snowing where you live

>>213695750
Do you recall all that stuff about "planned economy"? Having standardized buildings (like the collective farm in the pic) was part of the plan. Even non-Soviet Warsaw pact countries built them.

>>213687287
Stalker draws inspiration from the famous children's book Дoктop Aйбoлит.

>>213695939
>, have similar winter climates
I thought Sapporo was colder...

>>213696279
Is that a comic of roadside picnic?

>>213696369
No it's the book

>>213696279
Do you have a cat?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8MdQgqtzQ

>>213696401
Interesting, the form factor is a little odd. Do you read Russian? Do people in Lithuania learn Russian?

>>213696471
People my age and younger don't understand it. I just happened to live in a slavix soup neighbourhood full of poles, Russians, Ukrainians and belarusians so I managed to picked a lot of it up. There are russian classes of course it is the second popular mandatory class after english. Unfortunately their quality is bad and people only pick it because there are barely any teachers who teach french, German or spanish.

>>213696279
stalker 2 fucking sucks

>>213696525
Agreed. I was hyped up for no reason huge dissapointment made even worse by the "enhanced edition" of the old titles. Back to NLC 7 and Analmeme mods for me.

>>213696523
It's good to know the language of your enemy

>>213696564
To nie moj problem

>>213696159
>ukraine
>permafrost
lol

No, it was a soviet thing. Why? Because it's cheaper.

But it's also accidental genius: It has the unintended side effect of bringing the corruption to daylight, literally.
You wouldn't want to know what soviet water pipes hidden in underground tunnels look like. Or maybe you already know from super sus' videos.
No maintenance plans to speak of, decades of ad-hoc repairs carried out not by replacing damaged sections, but by banging on reinforcement plate after another. Everything's rusted to shit. Much of the water is lost to leaks and only god know what kind of shit ends up in the water supply.

i can see why so many countries resist russian influence at all costs now

>>213696564
classic assblasted pole

>>213696634
disgusting. i’ve also seen a lot of those asbestos roofs in ex ussr countries

>>213696847
Russia is the only still using asbestos

>>213696872
i’ve seen those in georgia, kazakhstan, ukraine and belarus too

>>213696942
Do they still actually use it in new projects?

>>213696847
Vice sent a chick to an Asbestos factory in Russia some years ago. She's in full protective gear while the Russians are chilling nearby in regular clothes and saying shit like "if you're not afraid, the body will heal itself".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy3piCUPIkc

>>213697234
Lol this is why most russian men die before 60
Lung damage from asbestos does not heal and causes cancer

>>213696634
nobody ever talks about how all those big commieblocks in the USSR were originally just meant to be temporary housing

>>213697304
Some were, some weren't. You don't build fancy facades and balconies if you don't intend on keeping those buildings.

>>213697304
Applies to Khrushchevkas only.

>>213696152
>>213696260
that building has always been a ruined abandoned dump whenever I've seen it so I didn't know it had some sort of specific purpose

>>213698295
The agricultural ones got abandoned early because people went back to private farming. The ones used to grow chickens remained a while (it stank of bird shit in a big radius around them) but some eventually switched to more modern buildings.

>>213695750
It's literally a fucking commie cow shed

>>213696423
Yes his name is Grybukas

>>213676913 (OP)
>>213676921
>>213676968
>>213677008

Looks like Romania 20 years ago

>>213677291
what's the location of these places?

>>213700459
Dnipro. He said it in an earlier post.

>posts some old winter photos from 2017
kys, retard doomer OP. our city is beautiful. touch grass, dolbayob.

t. another dnipro anon

>>213701210
Looks cool.

>>213701098
How come Ukrainian anons make a big thing about the Ukraine of pre ~2017 being different to the Ukraine of today? Has so much really changed?

>>213701452
Nothing has changed, Ukraine always was a shithole. Look at Ukrainian GDP per capita. It just so happens that before 2008 (yes, 2008) the wages quite higher than today and infrastracture still did not decay this much, you had only 2 decades of neglect instead of 4

>>213701609
Why do you think Ukraine specifically fell behind other former Soviet countries? Estonia iirc is pretty highly developed, for example. Is it just corruption, or reliance on agricultural exports rather than high value mineral wealth, or simply corruption?

Kharkiv

>>213701705
I have no apparent explanation for that despite searching the answer for years. Extreme corruption is present in all-post Soviet countries. Referring to Estonia or the Baltics in general is not fair, the Baltics were quite richer on average even back in the USSR, they are a completely another civilization. As years passed by I had to embrace the idea of some ethnicities simply being inferior subhumans and that's speaking as a Ukrainian socialist. In Ukrainestan you can get killed by a random drunkard for $100 in your pockets, my stepdad had his head bashed in in Zaporizhzya by muggers and the dude had no money or valuables at all. East Slavs are the real white negroes

>>213701452
Yes it did. Ever since we have chosen pro-Evropa vector things have been changing. We have a horrible neighbor that just can't leave us alone and constantly drags us into their shithole, so we don't want to live in a retarded commie shithole and we're doing all we can to live like white people.
I'm no political expert so I'll speak from a regular civilian standpoint. Yes, it got better. Just in general. Streets got cleaner, more businesses opening up, more opportunities, (a bit) less corruption, etc.

>>213701609
>hurr durr muh GDP
do you understand how much of our shit is non-declared?

>>213701791
Dnipro

>>213701855
>muh shadow economy
I love shadow economy warriors.
I spent 23 years in your shithole you imbecilic moron, I understand more than well how that excuse of the country works. Now go out and tell ALL of us how much they offer a grocery clerk in your town, I am sure the muh shadow economy will let clerk earn something besides literal bread without butter.
Hint: the grocery worker's salary will be below $300 a month

>>213701705
Largely corruption, russian influence.
Ukraine and especially Sevastopol are of high strategic importance to Russia and they're hell-bent on keeping Ukraine under their sphere of influence and away from EU influence. Remember that Russia's current chimpout in Ukraine started with Euromaidan.

>>213676913 (OP)
kino

>>213701824
Sorry to hear about your father. I spoke to a Ukrainian in my country and they said that there is a lot of scamming in Ukraine (e.g., when renting or buying an apartment) but the worst thing is that there is no structures in place which tries to diminish this corruption or where a person can report it. I get the impression that Ukraine is pretty much every man for himself, which saddens me because it's often the weakest or gentlest people who get fucked in that case. We also discussed pensions, and I was told that most pensioners live on around 100 euro a month, which is brutal.

However, in fairness to Ukraine it does not seem to generate many mafia-esque groups like Albania, Bosnia, Serbia etc. I may be wrong about that, but if anything there should be more Ukrainian drug/trafficking/robbery groups than other nations, considering the income levels.

What, if anything, do you think would improve Ukraine on a practical level in the post-war era?

There is pressure to reduce corruption, and hopefully one of the benefits of Western cultural influence is the refusal of young Ukrainians to accept bribery and corruption as a normal part of every day life. I personally hope that Western nations will see investment opportunities in Ukraine and open offices there rather than in India etc.

>>213700423
Nah, looks like Romania 8 years ago and that's when the pictures were taken. OP pic pipes look like Galati ring road and >>213677008 looks like the eastern part of the city with the train tracks. Oh look there are also shacks where boomers store pickles and moonshine

>>213687982
PVC framed double glazed windows were the flex in terms of home furnishings in the 2000s because everybody had the single glass, double pane window system, and in the case of the ground floor, with a set of cast metal bars (like in prison cell). So much so that some people installed tacky PVC doors in their houses as they looked like the highly coveted 'termopan' windows.

>>213677595
>swastika graffiti
This proves ukrainians are nazis.

>>213701945
If there was even a tiny amount of Russian influence, it wouldn't be such a shithole

>>213696555
It lacks sidequests we had in first games. I only realized it after 120 hours of the game. Man what they even thinking.

I think there is only two "big" side quests where you help one scientist to help with gaining mutant control powers and other one is to help hunters in the red forest

>>213701855
To the GDP question: I know someone from a Ukrainian city where the average salary today is apparently around 21,500 UAH. In the comments however to news articles on this subject, many people claim the average salary is actually closer to 10 or 12k UAH (if one person eats cabbage, and other other eats... etc). But then I read that it is common in Ukraine to receive an additional income from your employer in cash, to avoid taxes or whatever. Is this really still common to be paid an "official" salary (listed on a job advert online) and understand that you'll also receive more money under the table?

>>213701921
>$300 a month
Hint: you are retarded zarobitchanyn monkey. 26000 uah is 630 usd. I'm not saying that it's a lot, but for Ukraine that's an OK salary as of right now.

>>213701921
Did you get citizenship in Germany or are you there during the war?

>>213702167
He seems to be there during the war objectively speaking

>>213702202
ffs

>>213702045
The only thing that can work in Ukraine is a new colonial master, Hong Kong/Korea/Japan style. Without benevolent master stomping his feet everytime the government makes an oopsie everything will turn into an even bigger dystopia very quickly. If you paid attention to the recent news, recently Zelenskyi tried to repeal independence of an anti-corruption agency that was one of the working places targeting corruption in Ukraine and that was set up in the first place ONLY because of the European and American pressure. Anybody with a brain can see that everytime Ukraine tried to do something of its own, without interference from anybody, shit went down and pretty horribly
>there should be more Ukrainian drug/trafficking/robbery groups
Ukraine is the OnlyFans queen. If you visited PornHub and paid attention to the most popular page, you would find an extremely serious domination by Russian speakers, many of whom are from you-know-where. When the real income is around $300 and you are an incredibly pretty woman even by Euro standards (Germanic women look like absolute ogres in comparison), it would be retarded NOT to take advantage of Western simps. The country now exports its women continent-fucking-wide, that's the most crazy part to me, to go from being feared by the Americans and living better than 80% of the globe in the USSR to this is just something that nobody in the West can imagine, British empire never faced such an insane fall off

>>213694349
Bruh how do you make pigeons go extinct? They are flying rats

>>213702295
Not pigeons themselves. I meant pigeon houses.

>>213702263
Sad times, thanks for your answers.

>>213702263
Ukrainian whores completely destroyed our local ones due to prices and service. When they do busts now they write "foreign national ages 25-40" we all know their nationality. For me Germanic women look like 5/10 sharp jaw lanklets but I haven't been there much mostly study related.

I do wonder why Western companies haven't outsourced to Ukraine as much as they have India etc. Ukraine is pretty famous for its IT services, and salaries there are roughly equal to India but you have the bonus of being closer geographically and culturally, and probably having less red tape to set up an office.

>>213702449
Ukrainians are good programmers. They created some impressive slavjank over the years and have been cracking software hand in hand with the Russians until they had this falling out.

>>213702263
>>213702418
On the question of prostitution: I read a book about human trafficking, and it mentions that around 400,000 Ukrainian women were victims of human trafficking for prostitution from 1991 onwards.

I am not so naive to assume they were all naive as to what they were leaving the country for, but how does the average Ukrainian feel about the human trafficking of young women? Do they see it as a problem, or a personal choice to make money elsewhere, or a criminal scam etc?

>>213678135
Looks like shit on the outside but many apartments seem to have heat pumps which is an indicator that they are properly furnished. Not caring about the public space is peak nihilistic low trust society. Contrast that with the clean streets of Poland and the AC-let commieblocks.

>>213702489
Calling it human trafficking is extremely generous to our whores. I don't know a single Ukrainian women that was trafficked but I have a lot of women who were extremely eager to put their cooch in hands of a caring Westerner.
> the average Ukrainian feel about the human trafficking of young women
They don't feel anything because there's no trafficking. They become whores voluntarily. And Ukrainians don't feel much about it either, you can see even in this thread the Ukrainians defending their shithole despite it turning into Europe's brothel after the 1991 collapse. I have seen a lot of Ukrainian women with foreign bfs in Europe, have yet to find A SINGLE Ukrainian guy who bagged a foreigner

>>213702489
We Lithuanians had and still have similar problems. Do not conflate human trafficking with whoredom. Whoredom is voluntary while human trafficking in our case for example is some man tricking a girl she will work or study x and y in UK but when she moves there she has to be a Johnson vacuum for random men on the threats of her or her family getting killed.

>>213702138
I never worked a blue color job, but as an office worker, yes it's kinda true. And I'm not even talking about the scammer """offices""" Dnipro is sadly infamous for. Just a regular honest work office. I'm nearly 30 and almost none of the work I did was ever declared lol. Basically everyone in Ukraine is dodging taxes. As the saying goes "Ukrainians have only two enemies: the Ukrainian goverment and russians".

>>213702167
Don't listen to the burgergeld nigger. He's one of those entitled ukrainians that left during the war. They can only whine and complain.

>>213702635
Of course I can only whine and complain, that's the survivorship bias. If you are horrified with the horror show Ukraine turned into after 1991, then you either kill yourself or change countries. Nobody with a brain is left in Ukraine today.

>>213702635
Our government fixed it by requiring all wage to be paid directly in to the bank account electronically. No cash.

>>213702635
So how does your salary work, do you just get paid in cash or something so nobody can press you for taxes? And is your salary the same as advertised on the job description website?

I know somebody who claimed that around ten years ago they earned 600 USD a month in a medium-sized Ukrainian city, and then earned 1,000 USD a month in Kiyv. Apparently younger people tend to get paid more because they can use computers etc, while older generations are trapped in Soviet-tier jobs which are often operated by the state.

>>213702563
Hmm, I understand what you mean but the things a lot of these women went through was horrible. Many were told they could study in a university abroad in Israel etc, or could wait tables etc on a temporary visa, but were basically auctioned to pimps, beaten etc.

>>213702583
The black sheep of northern Europe. Why does Lithuania send extensive crime networks all throughout Germanic Europe while Latvia and Estonia don't?

>>213702805
We got rid of all the bydlo when 2007/08 crisis hit.

>>213702805
Ironic coming from the 1# gypsy exporter in EU

>>213702797
My nigga, how big is the % of women that went through this? Are you aware that STATE-SANCTIONED slavery is happening in Ukraine TODAY? Not somewhere in Turkey done by Mahmoud, but here in Europe TODAY. If I were wearing the army uniform, it would be 100% legal to beat this guy >>213702635 into the bloody pulp and kidnap him to the military recruitment center the second I see him on the street. Isn't it ironic that you talk about some tiny accidents that are incredibly rare, meanwhile ALL Ukrainian males were reduced to slaves absolutely LEGALLY? There's also no discharge from the army in Ukraine today. You get out dead or as a cripple, no end of contract right now.

>>213702805
Also no offence but we do not consider northern or even eastern Europeans. Baltic is the only grouping we like regardless what some bald soy professor states.

>>213702883
I'm not trying to simp, brother. I just read a book on human trafficking and there was a chapter on Ukraine. Did you leave Ukraine during the war?

>>213702723
I got paid to my credit card as well. Through other services tho.

>>213702754
Younger people get around easier for sure. But as for old people you either figured out capitalism in time and already invested or opened your own business, else you'll be stuck in a commie-tier job, as you said.

>>213702931
Yes, I left during the war, I was beaten by border guards and detained by policemen several times, had to break several laws. Not a single woman in Ukraine had to go through the same experience but of course everybody talks about poor Ukrainian women and not men, who are the real slaves. I mean, gotta live up to the name, right?

>>213702981
How did you escape?

>>213702981
What is your plan post-war? Are there opportunities to extend the working visa or study to gain citizenship?

I met a couple of Ukrainian men in my country, one was some kind of artist and the other worked on cargo ships and eventually moved to Poland.

>>213703022
Crossing kilometers of wild forests and hills, had to sleep in the wild, dodge patrols and jump over barbed wire. Slovak policemen greeted me like a king, unlike the Ukr*inian police
>>213703043
I have several things going and nothing is clear yet.

>>213702981
>>213703090
You do understand that all of that happened to you because ziggers decided to invade + our goverment is being retarded, right? We should fix our shit first, instead of running away. The grass is greener on the other side.

>>213703043
>>213703022
this is roughly how that anon escaped. there are a bunch of vlogs out there about those kind of guys. turn on english subtitles tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc_ExI2vghw

>>213703316
Those were not Russian hands beating me in the forest though. During one of my encounters with UKRAINIAN border guards I had an offer from an unnamed person to cross the border for an unspeficied amount of $$$. I did not take it. What, the ebil Russians made him sell out his country? I was not the first guy with such an offer, that's for sure. I was breaking the law to save myself, meanwhile the Ukraine's policemen, intelligence members and guards are breaking their own fucking laws because it's a cashcow for them. So much for nationalism and protectors of the law

>>213703416
There are good people and evil people in every country, anon.

>>213703416
Do you have any family members left in Ukraine? And last question, does your surname end in -ov, -ev, -in?
>>213703316
Why did you decide to stay?

>>213703672
I am Ukrainian and no, I paid for all of my relatives to get out before I left on my own.

>>213676913 (OP)
this is the most interesting thread i have seen on /int/ in weeks, i never realised doomwalking was so interesting

>>213703672
>Why did you decide to stay?
not enough money to bribe, already too risky to try to escape (that germany anon got out on time ig), got family here that can't leave, don't see myself in any other country.

>>213704092
What is your standard of living like, if you don't mind me asking?

Do you rent or own an apartment for example?

>>213701098
>>213701158
>>213701210
>>213701304
Kek, rahul. No amount of cherry picking and and pink glasses would help to cope with the surrounding reality, unless your IQ is no much higher than that of cattle you used to raise in your village. Giga cringe.

>>213676913 (OP)
It's not that the environment is inherently terrible, just those rundown buildings, infrastructure that are the problem.

>>213705453
What are the biggest problems in your experience?

>>213705453
Half of your propaganda is russian tier cringe. I am personally offended by the ziggers died in chernobyl from radiation poisoning and ziggers died in that goatse pipe under kursk from lung disease knowing that I work personally in the field that concerns these things.

>>213706317
Your ass is lucky because you don't see the internal Ukrainian propaganda. Both Ukies and foreigners very quickly forgot that Zelenskyi was fighting Biden online in February 2022 and was saying stuff like there is no coming invasion of Ukraine by Russia. The government lies became much worse once the war started. Arestovich, one of Zelenskyi's advisor, was promising in 2022 that Ukrainians troops will rest on Crimean beaches in summer 2023. We got 2025 on the street, Arestovich fled the country, got charged for corruption and the last time he was seen in Monaco

>>213706317
Your ass is lucky because you don't see the internal Ukrainian propaganda. Both Ukies and foreigners very quickly forgot that Zelenskyi was fighting Biden online in February 2022 and was saying stuff like there is no coming invasion of Ukraine by Russia. The government lies became much worse once the war started. Arestovich, one of Zelenskyi's advisors, was promising in 2022 that Ukrainians troops will rest on Crimean beaches in summer 2023. We got 2025 on the street, Arestovich fled the country, got charged for corruption and the last time he was seen in Monaco

>>213705112
left my office job couple years ago. as of right now im a NEET living with parents. have some side hustles here and there but no steady income.

>>213706420
What's even up with Arestovich the whole thing boggles my mind. At first he was hailed as a voice of reason and hope, a lot of his stuff was reposted here then he over night became a russian shill and never heard from again.

>>213706495
Is it because you are worried about getting drafted?

>>213706498
Arestovich is a bright guy. But being a bright guy doesn't mean he is automatically on /ourguys/ team. Lots of oligarchs and corrupt men are bright guys who just do whatever benefits them, so it happened that telling the plebs what they wanted to hear while practicing corruption is the normal practice in Ukraine. Dayem, it can't be, I thought Ukraine is like Captain America or something

>>213706569
What do you think about Pavel Fuchs?

He and a couple of other oligarchs are living in the UK now.

Soulmaxxing route, nice.

>>213706495
Damn I wish to be a need. Max I can do is 3 months, maybe 9 months if I convince my collegues to write some bullshit disease in my history.

>>213687396

The developers of stalker games are from eastern europe.

>>213705453
>let me go specifically only take pictures of pipes, garages and bare leafless trees on a commieblock area in an industrialized post-soviet city on a gloomy winter day in 2017
totally, dude.

>>213677277
Sounds like public school here.

>>213706709
It's a coin having two sides. I can go around photographing gedeminas avenue and proclaiming how first world +++ is but having lived in wilno for a few decades I know that 100 meters from that place is a junkie infested rotten shithole that tourists never go to.

>>213706621
He is a bright Jew who did what was the right thing for his family (growing rich at the expense of retarded locals). What's there to think? Literally ALL of the rich men in Russia and Ukrainestan are like this, they steal money from the gullible nationalists and patriots, stash the money in the West and send their children there all while talking about nuking Moscow/Washington/Kyiv/London/whatever. Zhirinovsky was THE most hard-line Russian politician calling for nuking everybody many times and shit talking the West 24/7. Zhirinovsky owned real estate in Spain and today his son is a citizen of that country and lives there under another surname. I did not call myself a socialist for nothing, in the Wild East you get to choose between socialism and anarcho-capitalism where the rich all scarry away like rats to the West

>>213706810
I forgot to say that Zhirinovsky had a Jewish father as well. I am not even an anti-semite but it's a fact that Jews are overrepresented among the oligarchs in the East

>>213706846
He predicted everything like three decades ago no one listened. What a loss that he died, his rants would have been epic during this happening.

why kacapia is so ugly jesus

I believe poles should be barred from any future discussions they offer no substance to the conversation.

>>213706810
>>213706846
Interesting, I did look into Zhirionvsky to see if he was Jewish. Amy Chua in her book World on Fire argues that 6/7 of the top "Russian" post-Soviet oligarchs were Jewish, while Sergei Braginskii made a list of the top 296 oligarchs and found that of the new oligarchs who were not part of the Soviet machinery, they were disproportionately Jewish and represented 14% of oligarchs despite being 0.16% of the population. Annoyingly, he did not publish the list he used as a sample, or explain his methodology.

I read a bit about Kolomoyskyi, who apparently stole many millions from Ukrainians via Privatbank, but apparently a lot of people like him because he funds Azov etc?

>>213676913 (OP)
those are hot water pipes right? you cant heat it locally at home because if you do it will freeze in the pipes or something

>>213707289
Kolomyskyi did not steal millions, why do you compare him to Ukrainian retards? He is not a retard. He stole BILLIONS. Stealing $2 billions from the biggest bank in the country where the nominal total GDP was around 130$ billions is impressive. His co-helper was an ethnic Jew as well. Ukrainians love their politiicians and oligarchs for the same reason pidorashkas love theirs, "hurr durr he is a faggot but at least he [pretends to] dislikes Russia!!!"

>>213707412
Interesting. I read that he funded Zelensky too, in that he owned the media channels and funded his rise from actor to leader. But Zelensky seems like a pretty patriotic guy?

>>213707541
Man, you should read more books on this issue or something. Google who is Berezovsky and who funded Putin during his rise to prominence. Same story, a smart and corrupt as fuck Jew funds a weak guy with 0 influence to become his puppet-president of the country, gets burned when the puppet consolidates his power and can burn his former master.

>>213707600
Recommend some. I know about Boris Berezovsky bte, and his one-time apprentice Abramovich

>>213707017
He's jealous of people living in neglected apartments with heat pumps while he has no AC in his neatly refurbished commieblock

>>213707634
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Klebnikov
Godfather of the Kremlin: Boris Berezovsky and the Looting of Russia
The journalist was later killed, killers never found. Unusual for Russia because they really hate to kill or maim foreign residents, usually only Russian journalists get raped or killed.

>>213707701
I've actually read this, but thank you. It's sad what happened to Klebnikov, I wonder if Berezovsky had him taken out. The part of the book about the downfall of the Soviet system and how the people were left destitute was heartbreaking.

>>213707017
why are russniggers so subhuman and stupid

>>213707752
what about assfuckovsky

>>213707752
Doesn't matter who took him out. Would you care if you were raped by a Somali, a Pashtun or a Pakistani? Should his family be happy that the guy got taken out by Berezovsky and not an oligarch number №3015? Stories like Khlebnikov's are especially hilarious because you KNOW that there's a hundred of less prominent journalists in Russian who were murdered in similar circumstances but who don't get their own page because they were not born in New York, neither were they fortunate enough to be a Forbes editor

>>213678169
Kino taste in vidya

>>213702066
>russian honour questioned
>serb flag appears from nowhere to defend them
please try and be a little less cliche

>>213696279
>sour cherry beer
do lithuanians really?

>>213710215
It's good. I switched to it before quitting drinking.

>>213709188
Like Caine we are stuck playing old shit for all eternity.

>>213711660
classic kacap poorfag taste

>>213676913 (OP)
Based. This is just like STALKER.

Ukrainian anons, I just read a popular tweet on Ukrainian Twitter arguing the case for the promotion of Ukrainian artists and culture in general.

I was thinking: do you think it would be valuable to have some kind of resource for this, like an interactive map of Ukraine with a list of artists and where they are located, their links, ways to support etc?

Good thread

I wish all ukies ITT good luck with everything

>>213705453
dnipro is a disaster of a city my friend, have you ever visited anything outside of it?