Thread 214147025

28 and havent even had my first kiss
does it happen in your country

>>214147025 (OP)
Women are overrated, brudi.

33 and havent even hugged(serious).

>>214147025 (OP)
I wonder what her cunt smells like after a BLACKED session

>>214147025 (OP)
Far older than that and I'm not a virgin.

>>214147025 (OP)
i'll kiss you anon

>>214147025 (OP)
About to turn 28 and I haven't even been able to live alone despite trying multiple times
I don't even care about getting into a relationship, I just feel betrayed by the current state of things. It really seems like if you haven't moved out with a partner at this point to rent an apartment together it's already over

>>214147268
What are you on about? Are you not able to live alone because you have a gf or what?

>>214147303
Because it's impossible to rent an apartment by yourself in most cities
Kinda hard to even bother looking for a relationship in this state

>>214147025 (OP)
Did the Tashkaposter emigrate? Why do you have a German flag now?

>>214147457
Definitely not harder than me rn

>>214147457
What? You can get a studio apartment, you know. It’s easy to maintain too.

>>214147070
Same here, also a perma-NEET.

>>214147478
HIVans sometimes forget to turn off/on their VPNs.

>>214147025 (OP)
>>214147070
>>214147542
let me kiss ya

>>214147268
This holy shit, the rent market is complete fucking AIDS. It sucks so bad.

>>214147025 (OP)
i think im too sociopathic to be in a relationship
theres no way a guy can live alone for years with relative ease and then be able to live in proximity with someone without it causing a problem

>>214147025 (OP)
>27
>Never held a girl's hand
>Never kissed a girl
>Never had a girl tell me she finds me attractive
>Never had sex
I went on a couple "dates" in high school, by which I mean asking a girl if she wanted to see a movie and my mom driving us there and picking us up. The only time I've every hugged a girl was after one of these so-called dates.
That was 10 years ago now and I've never successfully asked a girl out on a date since then. Admittedly I've only tried a single time (excluding dating apps) and she immediately said no. That was painful, because that instance was the surest I've ever been that a woman was interested in me and wanted me to ask her out.

I've tried dating apps, I've even gotten likes from fairly attractive women, but I'm not attractive enough myself to ever turn any conversation stemming from that into a date. One thing about dating apps you have to remember is how many other men you're competing with for the attention of a single woman. If she's even the slightest bit good looking there's a chance you're not even in the top 5 most attractive men she's currently messaging.
I don't really know what I want anymore. Having a girlfriend seems like it takes so much energy, and I just don't have that energy anymore. I look older and older every year, my hairline continues to get worse, and it only becomes more embarrassing to potentially admit to a woman that I'm a virgin with each passing month.

almost 33 and never even hugged
nobody helped me

>>214147516
I literally can't, either they are all absurdly expensive or ask for 2/3 months deposit + non-payment insurance with multiple conditions + are for students only + demand a stable job contract or are seasonal rentals only + whatever the fuck
Sorry for hijacking your incel thread but I feel more frustrated for this than the lack of a love life lol Hard to care for that when you can't even move out of your parents home

>>214147025 (OP)
When you will get your first bj you will realize that it feels nothing like you think it does, but making out feels great

>>214147814
Grim. What region of Spain are you in?

>>214147844
Some middle sized northern city, but I have moved for work before to other cities and ended up having to rent a room with random latinamericans twice
Anyways I'm just blowing off some steam. Fuck this joke of a continent

>>214147733
Dating apps seem demoralizing to me, at least as a man. It's like begging for a crumb of pussy from women with +10 bodycount
I think I'd rather be a permavirgin

>>214147733
>>214148052
That's because dating apps suck cock, women genuinely expect to be approached in a socially appropriate setting, be it a bar, an amusement center, whatever, and to have a reason for being approached. The ones who use dating apps are the ones who you want to steer clear of in the first place.

29 and I had my first kiss this year.

We're all gonna make it bros.

>>214148246
It's also the fact that the more time passes on these dating apps the less desirable women get left on while the ones who are actually worthwhile quickly get taken, Dating apps worked great the first few years but it's nothing but a pool of trash left to sort through now

>>214147025 (OP)
I just spent full weekend in my place together with this nice girl. I had lot of kisses with her and did much more do. Feels good. I was like you to 27 years old

>>214147025 (OP)
at our St. John's parties (i belive it's called midsummer in euro countries) there's a game called the kissing booth. you give a coin and a girl kiss you.
you need a spicier midsummer festival

>>214148246
The dating scene is completely fucked though
Years of feminist garbage + "MeToo" and other shit have made most men so scared of even approaching women in public that there's no culture for that anymore. Most zoomers wouldn't even dare to approach one and ask for her number out of fear of being considered a "creep" or something like that unless it's in some specific situations like getting drunk at a party or a disco

Personally I don't care to even look for a relationship, even less when most women are extremely liberal. And I'm not even saying this with any form of resentment towards the opposite sex or anything, I just don't think it's worth the hassle and it's usually a matter of luck + the state of your life situation if you find love or not. Better alone than in bad company desu

>>214147829
Giving them is insanely hot but getting them just feels meh

rare find

>>214148609
>have made most men so scared of even approaching women in public that there's no culture for that anymore
And that's the thing, the few men who know how to do it score easily because it's much rarer than it used to be

>>214147070
34 in three months and hugless

>>214148246
>women genuinely expect to be approached in a socially appropriate setting, be it a bar, an amusement center
My problem is that I'm not interested in the type of women that "go out". I sometimes go with my friends to bars and it's always miserable. I hate getting drunk, but the only way to enjoy being surrounded by dozens of drunk retards is to partake. The sort of women that are around these places are either hyperactive college girls who are in the process of becoming alcoholics, or disgusting fatties (who were at one time hyperactive college girls themselves). I hate the constant whooping and screaming and cackling of drunk women.
>>214148609
Normal people don't think about MeToo stuff at all, you've been consuming too much ragebait. The reason gen Z is so bad at face-to-face flirting is because they've been online since they could read. They're far more comfortable with digital messaging, texting, etc. and avoid real conversations at all cost.

>>214149346
Then don't go to a bar? I met mine in an arcade, no alcohol was involved. I probably wouldn't have been able to put up with a drunkie, either.

>>214149435
Are you the "I walked up to a girl at an arcade and asked her out expecting to be turned down but she said yes" guy?

>>214149503
I shouldn't have made that post, wanted to encourage anons and I got shit for it instead. Regardless, yeah, that's me.

>>214149346
>The reason gen Z is so bad at face-to-face flirting is because they've been online since they could read
That's another big reason but all of the feminist stuff in this country can still really get to you. Spain still has that mindvirus deeply engraved into the social behaviour, and it's not so much about fear of approaching women as it is about a lot of young women here being psychopathic towards men in general

Personally I can't say I care that much since I'm not even a very social person nor interested in most of the women I meet, but that's just my perception

>>214147025 (OP)
You can hire a prostitute who is about 35 years old and they will teach you everything. I don't understand incels on /int at all, find a job, start making money and first you have to sleep with 5-6 different prostitutes. That way it becomes easier on dates, you are more relaxed with women.

>>214147025 (OP)
29 and same

>>214147025 (OP)
>>214147070
germanic countries are nightmare mode for average guys so it's okay

Nope. By 28 i was already creamping girls like a madman. The key? A nice beard and confidence.

>>214148290
Cute. I'm happy for you, anon.

>>214151022
>28
>already

>>214151062
By 20 everyman should have experienced it IMO

>>214147025 (OP)
I'm 22 and I don't really like women.

>>214147025 (OP)
In high school, after learning that I hadn't kissed yet some girls offered to kiss me. This happened two different times with two different (attractive) girls and I refused twice because it felt like dumb peer pressure for teenage milestone points I didn't care about, being the hopeless romantic that I was.

I don't regret my decision although now I understand that gaining experience and learning how to handle intimacy have their importance, and learning how to act and be more confident in these situations could have helped me later on in my life. I still can't help but feel foolishly proud of my sense of agency, having had the free will to choose exactly how much of a loser I wanted to be while society was trying its hardest to make me go with the natural flow. It took a lot of questionable individual decisions for me to get where I am now and I'm in peace with that. This pic is not very related but I guess it has a similar vibe.

>>214152050
>rejecting free sex
>in Brazil
favstian spirit

>>214152155
>>rejecting free sex
This literally happened too and is one of my "fail" (?) stories, happened before the kissikissu offers, in middle school. This country is fucked up

Ideally, your first kiss is your 20-something wife whom you meet in your middle or late 30s.

Realistically though, if you’re 28 and haven’t had a first kiss you’re just not putting yourself in situations where such a thing is possible. I bet you spend most of your time at home shitposting and doomscrolling. You should be actively participating in various clubs, organizations, and meetups where you can meet and mingle with women.

>>214147025 (OP)
21 in a couple months and I kissed another boy for a week in my whole life

>>214152495
>You should be actively participating in various clubs, organizations, and meetups
like what?

>>214152531
That depends mostly on where you live, how old you are, and what you do for a living.

>>214152495
Womemes don't do anything interesting they just gossip all day with their retarded friends and post on instagram while collecting child support. They are fucking BORING.

>>214147025 (OP)
The more I age, the less I care and desire to get with girls. I feel like I get more apathetic and complacent about my volceldom. I wish I had the same drive as before, even though it didn't foster into action, at least I cared and had the urge.

>>214152495
I realized how easy it is when I somewhat forced myself to a social event, but then remembered that maintaining social links is draining and a lot of work so I refused to text after that. It made me much more happy that I am alone not because I'm some freak but because it is my choice and my nature. I think if someone of my acquiantances offered to go out I think I'd refuse. Socializing always felt for me like a forced meme so I don't do it.

>>214152670
Normalfag women do that sure, but autist women are a delight to be around.

>>214152962
>autist women
these are just men with tits and pussies
whats so good about them

>>214147025 (OP)
Yeah i'm also 28 and i'm literally the only incel in my country and there is not hope for me anymore though...

>>214147025 (OP)
I'm 30 and haven't kissed either and I'm a virgin
I'm above average looking and tall but I'm just socially stunted, I'm not really bothered, I'm gonna find a gf and make a family eventually anyway

I've slept with like 10 girls

>>214147758
how tf does this happen in sweden?
it seems like you guys have the easiest women in the world
you have to be either gay or asexual dude

>>214153141
We have something called world of warcraft and also the boyroom

Does that matter to you?
I'm 28 and I literally never think about that fact
Are you a failed normie?

>>214147025 (OP)
I'm 23 and I'm a virgin
I have had women try to approach me several times. But I rejected them...just fucking hate the idea of physical contact. I find it disgusting. I had a couple of fags try it too but no dice. Kissing someone makes me feel the same feeling most people have when they see their parents kissing.

>>214147070
Same

>>214152670
They leave the house and exist in spaces other people are in, unlike you. That is the essential issue.

>>214152827
You’re free to live your life as you see fit. I just hate listening to people complain about their lack of social or dating life while they spend all day every day at home on devices. People who have social lives are in professional orgs, go to church, go to run club, volunteer, hang out in public spaces and bars, chat with people at the stores, which they visit frequently, they invite coworkers to happy hour, call old friends, they actually do things outside of the house in cities and towns where young single people are. A lot of these “incels” are actually not incels but just guys who choose lifestyles where they can’t meet anyone.

>>214153022
>these are just men with tits and pussies
exactly, you get to fuck them but you don't have to put up with MOST of the normie female faggotry (they're still women and there's some faggotry you'll have to put up with anyway)

I am a skinny fat 150lb 5'7, 35 year old manlet with norwood 2 pattern developing. I have had sex with 18 women, and I am expecting my first child in 2 months. I lost my virginity at 16 to a 27 year old woman. The only way it's impossible to find a woman to have sex with is if you don't try.

>>214147025 (OP)
32, kissless, handholdless, never had a gf. Also a virgin but that one isn't a problem, as I'm saving myself for marriage. I'm ugly but I've gotten a few bites from attractive women just that I never went through asking for a date or something. Of course I regret not getting a number more so when she's looks like a real quality woman and not just attractive.

>>214152495
Anon I am not doing all that when a woman literally just has to exist and get's interest like it's nothing, I've seen it. Even Giga Chad could be a shut in gamer and get women falling over him. I am not doing all that effort just to wife up some woman who doesn't feel strongly about me and just see's me as someone to keep her from feeling lonely. In today's age should she ever get interest from someone she is attracted to, then she might just cheat on me, divorce me, and take half my stuff. Nope, not happening. It's either I meet a woman that meshes well with me and is truly attracted to me or it's not going to happen. I'd rather be single into old age and not have to be a wagie for decades rather than trapped as a provider for a woman that doesn't even like me. Imagine being locked down to a woman that doesn't like you, having to wake up with that thing in bed knowing she doesn't like you and solely uses you to absolve herself of the fear of being alone and in her eyes a failure for simply not having a husband like all her girl friends do.

>>214147025 (OP)
could be worse, my first kiss and last kiss was a viet prostitute

>>214147025 (OP)
26 yo, had my first kiss, still virgin.
I guess it's over for me.

>>214147652
>Norway one of best countries in the world
>it's fucked too
AAAAAA THERE'S NO ESCAPE!!!

>>214147025 (OP)
Had it and more, except failed to properly get hard with her (two separate occasions) so still a virgin

>>214147733
I feel you so much bro even though I'm younger

How are you guys even virgins in a first world sexually liberated country where the average man looks like a greek statue

>>214147733
>and she immediately said no. That was painful, because that instance was the surest I've ever been that a woman was interested in me and wanted me to ask her out.
Oooof. I'm pretty sure I have heard stories of women acting interested and then rejecting anyways. Turns out some of them want you to hit on them multiple times before saying yes. The leaps of logic on some of these women is retarded and I refuse to play into it. She either wants to be my gf then and there or it's not happening.

>>214147025 (OP)
Hm

>>214154979
we are the exceptions
that's why we're on 4chan

>>214147025 (OP)
No, but why aren't you going after it instead of complaining about this on the internet? This is the thing that drives me nuts about you guys, if you were at least complaning that you did something today and it didn't work, and how could you do better, but you won't bother doing shit. This is your actual problem, you lack energy to do things. Otherwise you would be chasing women just like those immigrant retards do on the street.

>>214147070
Impressive
how?

I’m an ugly old woman who’s a wage Kane, I’ worth nothing and never had friends except my family. Can’t even rent an apartment with my salary. Worth nothing I guess

>>214158835
are you the black canadian girl who used to post here

>white
>6'2
>been told multiple times that i'm good looking by both men and women
>in good shape from gymcelling
>not balding, autistic, or have any actual issues/deformities
>kissless vigin wizard at 31

Who else failed on easy mode?

It's not going to happen for us. It would happened half a lifetime ago If it was mean to be.

>>214158992
'Fraid you're the only one, chief.

>>214153884
are you really saving yourself for anything at this point cmon man

>>214158924
Never heard…. I’m a rare visitor so that explains

>Oh anon do you have a gf?
How do you respond without sounding mad?

>>214147025 (OP)
I didn't have my first kiss until I was 20. Met up with a girl from discord

>>214148868
Circumcised?

>>214147025 (OP)
>>214147070
26 KHHV, following you

>>214153255
>and also the boyroom
whats that

>>214159536
the worst Korean poster

you can get anything you want if you stop being a fag and forego consent

>>214159179
If people still ask you this probably means you aren't too fucked up. I can't even remember the last time. It has been years.

>>214150748
Why?

If it did not happened in France, it will not happen here. I may give up on everything if parents die.

>t. 27 yo, virgin, introvert, working in IT, a suspicion of being mentally ill or autist and the worst contender for all these characteristics, black

>>214152050
some shit like that happened to me.

God kept throwing women at me during my school days, and somehow, I screwed it up. I thought there would be time for that later. How wrong I was.

Factual reminder that all post admitting inceldom are by pajeets.

>>214147025 (OP)
I was khhcv until this year where I had my first kiss on the lips with tongue, she caressed me, told me that "you matter" and that "you can do it", then I was so taken back that I started crying heavily and then she patted me like a dog.
It feels good being a kiss haver.
My fleeting experience of normality was heart warming. Now I am back to being a virgin who nevereaves his house and it seems like I will become a 30 yo wizard.

>>214163395
Forgot to mention I had my first kiss at 27 yo

>>214147457
where in spain do you live

>>214149788
tell me about dating in Kyrgyzstan

>>214147025 (OP)
no I'm only a 25 yo kissless virgin
also this bitch (possibly tranny) is ugly, stop spamming it
>>214147070
thank god I'm at a majority female uni where some female friends of my male friends sometimes greet other people including me with hugs

>>214152050
I behaved the same way, not only for romantic things but general social experiences like going out, drinking or even talking to girls. I was rebellious towards peer pressure and everything most other kids did. I started behaving like this in 7th grade throughout my highschool and the first 2 years of uni when I still said no to "normies" inviting me out. Only when I changed courses when I was 21-22 did I start hanging out with and making normies friends, getting drunk for the first time and going with them to clubs (which I really don't even like) but now I think it's mostly too late for me.

>>214152495
If you're not talkative, funny, or are generally socially awkward where you don't know what to say or talk when you go out to clubs and social gatherings you'll still be ignored by women which will feel even worse than if you had just stayed at home. Not that I want my first kiss to be from some club hoe in the first place.

>>214151022
>beard

argentinian women have low standards ,jej

>>214159320
>Met up with a girl from discord
this has to be bait..

Why do you guys think you're kissless, hugless or whatever despite being in your mid to late 20s?

KHHV at 26 but that’s because I live in a sof gender-segregated country in a male dominated profession. There was a wall separating the boys and girls in high school and I was in engineering in uni which is 90% males and 8% ugly females.

I was in London for a week in 2019 and I had more female interaction in that one week than I would get in 5 years of my life here. A blonde 40-50 year old blonde woman even cold approached me and chatted me up. It was unreal. I unironically love women and the fact that I’ve been starved from fulfilling interactions with them is the biggest tragedy of my life.

>>214163980
the newer crop of normalcattle that has been posting on int doesn't get this, if you can't string together sentences without stumbling then you won't just be ignored, you'll be the butt of the jokes for the entire social outing. No it is not a skill issue I just have a gimped brain.

>>214147025 (OP)
I had mine first at 27
2 years later I've kissed 8 in total and fucked two of them, fingered two more
Never lose hope. Late bloomers exist

>>214147070
Chad

>>214164271
Depressed (rarely smile or look sad), quiet, socially awkward (don't know what to say in social gatherings or be funny to girls), don't follow and not interested in mainstream trends, culture etc. You know it's bad when at social gatherings with girls they ask you if you're okay because I look sad or depressed. I can't even make a female friend despite having a decent amount of male friends.
I've noticed my normie male friends doing and saying that you need to tease and be a bit mean to girls for them to get interested, this is something I literally cannot do. If I tried it would probably turn into something really bad and inappropriate.

>>214147025 (OP)
Can't you just find someone at the masjid or is the mahr too high?

>>214164271
too much of a shut in when i was younger, now at 27 I'm too burnt out from work and from bullshit to make the effort, plus the whole fear or discomfort of the unknown sort of thing

>>214147268
>t. Poorlet
I have no sympathy, it's perfectly doable to invest non-work time into an upwards career move through personal development.

If you're not making enough to get a place, it's your own fault.

>>214147844
It's not that bad lol they're just a depressedlet.

>>214164479
You don't NEED to lightly tease or be mean to girls, especially if you're just trying to make friends rather than trying to flirt. It helps a lot of people with flirting though.
Are you just socially awkward or do you also get really anxious in social situations, or around girls specifically?
>>214164642
So you're just a normie who's taking a break?

>>214147952
step 1 get a car

>>214149592
You are forever tagged and marked, FAKECEL.

>>214147025 (OP)
Even in my conservative Asian country I feel like most single women over 25 are either roasties or suffer from some extremely undesirable personality quirks
If you couldn't find the love of your life in high school or college it's basically 90% over

>>214164777
I never started with dating wouldn't say taking a break. I work and meet with friends sometimes, thats pretty much it. Any activities I do other than that are things that I do by myself

>>214164902
>I work and meet with friends sometimes, thats pretty much it. Any activities I do other than that are things that I do by myself
That honestly just sounds like how most normies live. If you added a girlfriend to that you'd just be a straight up normie, congratulations.

>>214147025 (OP)
30, never been in a relationship, never felt live or even desire.
It's fine for asspies like me, I don't really care tbdesu. But I can't imagine being a failed normie and still being kissless at my ago. I would probably kms.
>>214164271
Never really bothered, never really cared. I think it's a case of getting used to it. Like if you're sitting on something hard eventually your bum gets numb and it doesn't hurt anymore. I never felt love, so I can't miss it. Maybe it's missing from my life, but I don't feel like it's what's holding me back.
As to why, mental illness and a good case of the tism of course. It's par for the course for my kind to be forever single.

>>214164884
Vast majority of women are shallow and unlikeable af. I'd say that only like 1/4th women I've dated had remotely fun personalities and were actually likeable. Finding a girl that is both is amazing

>>214165252
Very true, also I've never met any pretty woman who is even remotely interesting, it's so easy to reel men in just by looks alone, them hoes don't even have to try

29 year old KHHV here

you guys really just need to swallow your pride and install dating apps

>>214165575
Did that, got a few matches but I can't talk to women.

>>214164777
>anxious
Maybe 10 years ago in middle school or highschool, now I feel indifferent around girls but I think I don't stand out as much. Hanging out with my normie uni friends during the last 3 years got me used to seeing and sitting next to some massive stacies and bimbos. I'm not really attracted to those bimbo types but it got me used to being around all types of women.
Every time my normie friends invite me to a gathering with their female friends I feel like all the other guys are fighting for their attention and seeing that I just don't want to try and participate in their contests. I'm starting to hate how much attention women are getting and every time I try to interact with them I put myself in their position and see how insignificant my attention or interaction is from their perspective, especially since I'm boring most of the time.
>make friends with girls
It got me thinking why I don't have female friends like I have male friends, and believe me I do try to message and invite girls I think I'm good with to hang out like my male friends but it never works out. I think I have to be way more interesting to get that kind of attention from girls, including just being friends.
Even though I'm an INCEL, I'm not that concerned about my looks being the problem, besides my outfits which I'm working on. For example I think a few girls showed interest in me like among other things kissing me on the cheek, asking me to sit next to them etc but they all eventually alienate themselves once they got to know me a bit.

I WISH I was single so I could fuck more women. But I am married with a body count of 2 kill me.

>>214165204
>asspies
holy shit, I might have aspergers

>>214152527
How did you kiss a boy for an entire week? How did you breathe? Did you piss or shit throughout the 7d period?? I'm pretty sure humans die after 3 days w/o water so you must've needed some breaks to get water. You somehow also didn't fall asleep for like 168 hours. Either way I'm very impressed you guys might've broken a world record

>>214148541
Pretty sure they have sex in midsummer like we have sex in carnival or wedding parties

>>214165694
>I feel like all the other guys are fighting for their attention and seeing that I just don't want to try and participate in their contests.
Yeah I find this relatable. Would you maybe find it easier to talk to a girl one on one or in a group of only a few people, instead of feeling like you're in a competition just to have them pay any attention?
>I think I have to be way more interesting to get that kind of attention from girls, including just being friends.
Not really, from my experience you don't really need to be anything special in order to be friends. If you're just thinking that you're gonna go do something, or you're gonna go hang out and have fun and there are women there, that's not really something that requires you to be interesting in any special way. They probably don't put that much importance on the interactions with you, just like you said, so you don't need to either.
What I've found the easiest is to just join some communities where you can go casually hang out, where there are both men and women.
>It got me thinking why I don't have female friends like I have male friends, and believe me I do try to message and invite girls I think I'm good with to hang out like my male friends but it never works out.
Probably not all your fault then, and probably isn't really because of what you're like as a person. First of all some normies still feel like men and women can't be friends, like people (well adjusted adults) get legitimately uncomfortable if their boyfriend/girlfriend is hanging out casually with female/male friends. Then also the women probably are really sensitive to the possibility that you might wanna sleep with them, because that happens a lot. And then if both of you already have a bunch of friends you're hanging out with, it can be kind of difficult to build a new friendship unless you have something that's kinda pushing you to hang out.

>>214152050
Did that back in the days but I gave up and kissed lots of girls then found a 9/10 scene girl gf at the time
Cummed inside her for years till she cheated on me
Those experiences only made me feel more hatred towards them

>Basically is a pussy destroyer phenotype
>in fact is a virgin, even though can get any pussy easily, but due to prolonged exposure to european giga chad factory phenotypes from the internet since early teenage, can't urge to fuck asian girls. No matter how pretty a korean gal who i encounter in a day is.
>My only remedy is going out touristy area in seoul and finding pretty western gals.
>Since my standards have been reinforced by endless doom scrolling the insta, model catalogues, 99% of western women in seoul are legit below mid.