>qtddtot

Is there anything I can do about this on a Remshit 870? There are several spots like it on the receiver, but I can barely feel them and steel wool isn't helping. Will heating it up help?

0000 steel wool, oil, and some elbow grease. The spots will remain but it'll knock the surface rust off.

>>63842985
They haven't really gotten any worse in a while, so I think the surface rust has stopped, but I was wondering if there's any way to get rid of the spots.

I was thinking of putting some Super Blue on the whole receiver.

>>63842981 (OP)
Been looking at one of these for plinking and practice and I've been told they take AR-15 trigger packs. Can anyone confirm?
Maybe give me your general thoughts?

>>63843011
Most cold blue is hot shit. Your best bet for the rustington finish is to paint it all.

>>63842981 (OP)
depends on what you are willing to do. My recommendation would be to degrease the receiver with acetone or similar, then apply rust bluing compound on it, let it get an even layer of surface rust, then boil it to convert to black oxide and card it off, do this a few times.

>>63842981 (OP)
I have a 870 express from 97 that i can literally take out in the field and watch it rust its unreal

>>63843624
OP here.

Mine is from somewhere around 2017, well after they fucked up their finishing process. My dad has a 20 gauge 870 Wingmaster from probably the 70's and the finish is still wonderful, even though he's never been the most diligent about cleaning and oiling.

You should put it outside one day and take a time lapse video of it rusting, then post on /k/ for our entertainment.

>>63842981 (OP)
Boil it. No really. It'll convert the lowest stuff but you may still have to knock off the loose stuff. May still look ugly but it's worth a shot. Also I'll have to look up the guide again but is it a (IIRC) post-2007 gun because if so they like to rust. A lot.

>>63843624
That's weird; I have a '95 IIRC that I haven't had trouble with and was a Less Lethal police shotgun so you know it got zero oil 99% of the time it's been around. Then again it's an 870 Police and they're parked instead of blued so that may explain it.

Reading up on the Blish lock in Thompson SMGs, it seems like even from the beginning the lock's usefulness was questioned. Is there any reason it took until the military's request to simplify the guns for it to be removed. It seems like something that production people would have already been looking at removing to cut costs for civilian sale guns.

>>63845507
With how things were made back then removing something from the line is actually wasting money.
Each cut would be done on different machines. You remove that cut then all the specialized tooling to do that cut is now useless. You spent a shitload of money on that tool and never broke even on it.

>>63842981 (OP)
Time to rattlecan it camo

What's the point

>>63846190
Agreed, way too long.

>>63845507
The Blish lock did work, it just didn't work the way Blish thought it did. Blish thought that the coefficient of friction between two surfaces varied based on pressure. That is not true, friction is simply linear. However, friction is still present. The blish lock is basically a friction-delayed blowback. Not non-linear friction the way Blish thought, but just plain 'ol normal friction. For the gun to work with the Blish Lock removed you'd have to make the bolt heavier or you'd have to add some kind of other sort of delay mechanism to take the place of the mass and friction created by the brass locking piece.

>>63846579
...hit post too soon.
So, yeah, the Blish lock was pretty shitty and overly complicated, but fixing it was a bit more complicated than just deleting it. They'd have to change up the design in other ways. Using the existing design on existing tooling might have made more financial sense than the big up-front costs for new tooling, even if the design was more economical to manufacture long term. Like >>63846140 explains it's not like guns of that era were made on CNC machines where you can tweak the design by changing code. They had specialized machines set up for each individual cut. I'd also imagine that in the time in question industrial machine tools were a hot commodity, very much in demand not just in the US but also for its allies. The output of plants making machine tools was limited, they might have needed those people working on machinery other than those for making cheap Thompsons.

Are there any rimless centerfire rifle cartridges other than .30 carbine with a case/base diameter smaller than .223 Rem? Centerfire rifle cases only - I'm exploring options for a wildcat project.

The rust shit was making me wonder - modern day gun made out of brass/bronze. Doable with pressures and heat of ammo or not?

Why are necked cartidges faster?

>>63846714
Compared to a straight-walled cartridge of the same size (same amount of powder) the bullet is lighter so it goes much faster. Compared to a straight-walled cartridge of the same caliber the necked cartridge usually has a lot more powder.

>>63846686
There's probably a few. Off the top of my head, 5.7x28 and .22 Spitfire.

>>63842981 (OP)
Black sharpie

>>63846579
Come to think about it, it’s actually YOU who doesn’t work! What do you think about that? Blish!

>>63846639
I'm asking about why it wasn't deleted **before** WW2, so the hot commodity for US and allies was lesser (I know not totally not a factor but lesser).
But then, for WW2 production the Blish lock was very quickly deleted and production was run on it.
>>63846140
While I understand the U.S. government is a different kind of customer, the lock was deleted and production on the new design was started very quickly. Also this addresses all theoretical problems with removing it since simply making the bolt beaver did actually just work

>>63846894
5.7x28 and .22 Spitfire are the same case. So, to clarify, I'm looking for rimless centerfire rifle cases smaller in diameter than .223 other than .30 Carbine and 5.7x28.

>>63847440
>5.7x28 and .22 Spitfire are the same case
Not even close

50yo laid off truck driver here. Don't want to go back to driving. House and cars are paid off, no debt.

How realistic is an armed security job? This is in the US, of course. From what I've seen seen it's pretty easy but I don't interact with them much as a driver. How shitty is the pay and can I get away with it with no actual leo/mil/criminal experience?

>>63847574
Are you a fucktard who cant keep his mouth shut?

>>63847583
Kind of but not in the way you mean. I'm chatty, but I know what stories not to tell.
I'm assuming you don't mean "don't have small talk," but "don't snitch."
Here's where I may have trouble. I might have difficulty using out the things I have to actually deal with and/or document, and the things I just "didn't see."
What do they actually expect of you?
Now that I think about it, I'd imagine it's analogous to the truck safety inspections. They don't want to hear about it unless it will definitely get people killed or get them sued. Kind of like that?

susing out*
I really need to stop phone posting with this shitty keyboard that auto replaces when I spell things out ..

What's the easiest way to remove spray paint from plastic furniture, is acetone going to melt the plastic?

>>63848040
Oil or latex? LA total awesome strips water based paint of plastic minis so that could work, but oil, I think you're going to have to just layer over it.

>>63848040
Citistrip

>>63846190
Leetl barrels

What caliber should I get in a bolt action? I am wanting to get into hunting with my brother and wasn't sure which route to go. I'm heavily considering .308 for the distance and power (not to mention I don't have anything of that caliber in my collection) but have also see bolt actions in 300 blkout. I've heard its a meme but I also don't plan on suppressing...unless I should. I'm sorry if I am posting in wrong thread, I couldn't find long distance thread anywhere.

>>63849327
If you have to ask, go with 308 as it's easy to find and cheap. There are better performing calibers but if you're posting that question here the price and availability will benefit you more than performance.
At anything but the highest skill levels there is no difference in accuracy between bolt and a modern semi auto.
Other things to consider:
What are you hunting and what are the local laws? Where I'm currently at, meme straight wall cartridges are legal to hunt with despite violating the spirit of the law.
I had a coworker who swore by some fucking 7mm cartridge for deer, but he was a goofball so I didn't commit the exact one to memory. There's a lot of options.
I would avoid 300 black out simply because of the non zero chance of an ammo mix up blowing up your ar, unless you had a use case for it, but you don't. If you really want to minmax and don't care about price and available that much, go with 6.5 creedmoore. It's like .308 but with less drop, of you don't mind it being marginally hate to find and more expensive.
If you want to round out your collection with a .308 there's more interesting options.
Does that help at all?

>>63849402
I'm in Missouri and plan on just hunting deer. I threw the .300 blackout out of the equation for that exact reason of not risking mixing up ammo. I think I'm going to go with .308 as I am seeing claims similar to your own with .308 being easier to obtain and what not. What do you mean by
>If you want to round out your collection with a .308 there's more interesting options.

>>63849435
That's a personal choice, but for me it was the m1a for that grand feel. I traded silver with some Elton John looking mid state FFL queer for pic related on a whim. For the memes though I'd go with the so called tanker version with the wood stock.
But if you want a serious answer try battle rifle general /brg/.
That's your long range thread, or at least the closest thing to it.

>>63843011
>surface rust has stopped
It's not aluminum, there is no protective layer forming it's iron oxide, all it does is trap moisture and cause more rust, get rid of it like the other anon said.

>>63846639
>>63847015
Changing tooling costs money, it cost money back then it costs money now.
The changing of the tooling is not gratis, it will cost you. The government was often stingy when it came to retooling as every budget change needed verification and bookkeeping.
Often not changing the tooling for a short batch was well worth it even with waste material as the beurocratic cost wasn't worth it unless you had dinner with a guy that week who'd cut past it all.

>>63849482
Its a nice looking m1a my man. I'll pop on over to /brg/ and try my luck there. Thanks for advice.

>>63849507
Ty. I meant Garand feel but auto correct, lol
Also it seems (their website isn't the best) you need a ten round mag or less.
It's so poorly worded I can't tell if there's a caliber restriction or not. It technically says it has to be over 40 cal, but I'm sure that only applies to muzzle loaders. The site literally says non muzzle loading guns are prohibited but then says 11 round semi auto is okay, stay away from KC and don't fucking shoot a swan.
Maybe ask them directly...

>>63842981 (OP)
NV question here since theres no /nvg/gers thread atm

If I am cross eye dominant(right handed, left eye dominant) which eye do I wear my PVS14 over?

I am told that the army teaches that you should wear the NV over your left eye in case you need to use white light to shoot your rifle normally, but I assume this is intended with right handed and right eye dominant shooters in mind because they are the overwhelming majority

does cross eye dominance give me an advantage here? since I can have my monocular over my dominant eye and still be used to shooting right handed?

Just got a Bergara .300 Win Mag, purpose building it for 500-1000+yds. Looking into optics sub 1k that maybe fit the 5-25/7-35 magnification range. I know the wise choice is to just bite the bullet and commit to a Vortex PST Gen 2 5-25, but was wondering if anyone had experience with Athlon optics and if the rumors about them being Chinkshit are true

>>63849630
>Vortex PST Gen 2 5-25
good choice! maybe wait for a sale, they were sub $1k for memorial day, maybe check tacswap
>Athlon
if they have lifetime warranty then fine, look at Arken if you want a chink hunting scope with lifetime warranty, but the vortex is your best bet

>>63849562
I live in KC unfortunately and I'm concerned with the massive ball ache navigating the conservation department is going to be. All of our local ranges have been closed because urbanites don't adhere to the safety rules and now I can only shoot recreationally at a department range that only accepts cash.
My boss has a farm I could probably hunt at so that might be my only way into the sport.

>>63842981 (OP)
lol do you live in florida
also IT'S OVER

>>63849669
It's not much better here. I can literally walk to one of the 4 25yd indoor ranges here, but to drive to an outdoor range is an all day affair.

>>63847822
You didn't spell it out though.

It's "sussing."

>>63849682
No. PA.

>>63849576
Wear it over the eye that you don't use for shooting.

>>63842981 (OP)
get it stripped and get it cerakoted. or get the remington steal package from wilson combat and the special finish
>>63847574
its a shitty underpaying cover your ass job. miserable as fuck where they will fuck you to cover themselves.

>>63847504
I'm sorry I misspoke - the .22 Spitfire and the .30 carbine are the same case base diameter, and .22 Spitfire brass is made from .30 Carbine. So if I'm asking about cases for a wildcat, what use is the .22 Spitfire if I'd have to make it from .30 Carbine - especially when I've already said that I'm looking for a case that has a different base diameter than the .30 Carbine?

Notice that my original image contains a 5.7x28 round. That probably indicates that I'm aware of the existence of the 5.7 given that I'm asking a question about wildcatting and base diameter and not something retarded like "what's the coolest bullet to shoot?" The point is - and to clarify my question for a third time - OTHER THAN 5.7, .30 CARBINE AND ALL THEIR DERIVATIVES are there any centerfire RIFLE cases with a smaller case base diameter than .223 Rem?

So imagine I'm asking if there's a centerfire RIFLE cartridge with a case base diameter SMALLER than .308 and .30-06 for the purpose of making a wildcat, and you were to then reply with:

"Off the top of my head, 7.62 Tok and .270 Winchester"

...can you see how given the context of the words I specifically typed out to provide that context that those answers are literally what I said I'm not looking for? Because one is not generally considered to be a rifle round and the other has the same case base diameter as one of the cartridges I specifically mentioned? It's the same scenario for my original question. Great.

So one more time, extra clearly:

EXCLUDING CARTRIDGES WHICH ARE USUALLY CONSIDERED PISTOL CARTRIDGES
(E.G. LIKE THE 5.7)...

AND, OTHER THAN .30 CARBINE AND ALL THE CARTRIDGES DERIVED DIRECTLY FROM THE .30 CARBINE CASE,...

...are there any centerfire RIFLE cases which have a smaller case base diameter than .223 Rem? Any at all that are generally considered rifle cases and not .30 carbine or related to .30 carbine?

Anyone know of a decent poorfag alternative to a carbine-length KAC quadrail? I'm not shelling out $300 for a handguard.

I got the flat, Lube is bavarian now... send in the Romas!
IBF the gun and reloading room

>>63846140
No. You almost never take into account sunk cost on assets previously purchased when performing a DCF analysis to see if a cost cutting decision moneys out through NPV for future cash flows.

>>63850278
So not so different from trucking rn. Ty.

>>63848606
NTA but does anything work for removing old old latex/house paint without removing whatever paint companies use to paint/print designs on sheetmetal? I'm in a tough situation because by now the latex is rock hard.

>>63843376
I have a lot of blowback 9s, are you deadset on not having a buffer tube? also IMO glock mags are the least best option for AR 9 style guns.
>>63849327
I don't think there are any restrictions here, you could go with 556, which should be enough for most things in the state. I think 308 or 30-06 is a better option.

what is the proper sight picture for a mav 88? it's got a small ball 1/2 up the barrel and a full size bead at the end, AFAIK some shotguns recommend a "snowman" or "figure 8" sight picture but for this it seems they want the small ball in the middle of the big one?

>>63851027
congratulations lube. town looked comfy as fuck

>>63851321
I've been in trucking and security. dont do ARMED security

>>63846579
>Blish lock is basically friction delayed blowback
Not really. The amount of delay due to friction is so low that it has no practical effect. For all intents and purposes, the gun is just straight blowback.

>>63853266
I probably won't at this point, but why not?
Honestly if the pay is that bad I can work fast food or something.

>>63853397
its a YOU GO TO JAIL company job. it worse than shorthaul shit in a major city

I have a aero Solus 308 with an m24 profile barrel. I have it in a chassis and to be quite honest I hate the overly tactical look. I emailed a company about what stock would work with the action and they asked me "what bottom metal are you going to be using"
I have no idea what this means. The chassis I have now takes aics mags if that helps anything

>>63852164
Dont ask me why the post didnt land in hg :D Its easy to describe, so white that you're racist towards other states

>>63853405
Fuck, maybe I become a barista, lol.

Am I gonna cooked if I wear expired level ii armor under a icw plate? I know its supposed to be iiia. I'm too poor to do anything about it, just want to know if I'll still get one shot by jamal/bubba with their "green-tip/AP" ammo.

>>63854922
If the ICW plate is a sapi/esapi/xsapi, you'll most likely be fine
Better than nothing; use it and save for some IIIA backers/soft inserts

Would getting an AR 5.7 upper be dumb? PS90s suck since you're stuck with semi, but we have super safeties for ARs

>>63856012
I think pretty much all 5.7 uppers have semi-auto cut bolt carriers
unless you can get some sort of sear trip insert that you know works with the 5.7 carriers, you'd be in the same boat as ps90 owners

>>63842985
Then, once clean, wipe down with a remoil rag or some other kind of silicon protection rag.

>>63856069
Ah that sucks to hear. I also tried to look up CMMG's 5.7 upper but I cant find whether or not they're full auto. I've sort of been wanting a pcc, so I guess I'll look into a turk mp5

>>63852154
>are you deadset on not having a buffer tube
My ideal would be something with a folding stock. And I'd rather not have to get one of those folding stock adapters.
I have so many glock brand mags that it would be silly to buy anything else unless the absolutely suck at feeding blowback pistols.

>>63842981 (OP)
what's a good template for writing fictional after action reports and military journal and do you have any examples?

WHAT DO I BUY?

I'm looking for a taper mounting QD muzzle device/mount pair to attach one universal 30 cal can and swap it between five different barrels. What's the best option? Already have the guns and can (DT WLVRN & Hux Ventum)

Priorities:
>actually in stock somewhere
>repeatable PoI shift after mount/dismount
>small PoI shift between mounted/unmounted
>hub compatible
>matte finish (fuck you, Q)
>lowest priority is cost, but it'd be nice to have something not a gorrillion dollars

Seems like silencerco ASR and deadair hub mount are the best according to internet memes but I don't have experience or data to actually quantify that.

Thoughts?

>>63842981 (OP)
Krylon

>>63846190
Attaching suppressors on AR9's.

The extra barrel length on 9mm doesn't buy you much if you are using anything but subgun or +p+ ammo and even then it's marginal, usually less than 100FPS going from 2.5" to 10"

>>63850688
Rock river quad rail is good. Why quad rail though? Living in the early 2000's?

>>63854922
Expired soft armor is fine so long as it has never gone through a washing machine (the detergent weakens the threads a lot)

>>63858930
AR 25-50, write in memorandum for record format.

anyone know if this optic mount style has a name?
screws go into the holes to mount to the optic

>>63861024
Doesn't have a name as far as I know. But ACOGs and MROs use that type of nested interface. If you were looking for mounts for those optics you would just use their name. That is clearly neither though, probably some proprietary chinese bullshit.

If you mean the quick detach lever, then it's just called that, or QD.

I "upgraded" to an ESD padded sling but it feels like a cheap padded camera strap compared to the basic Magpul sling. It's so thin. I have a $20 laptop bag with a better strap.

Are all of the "fancy" slings that aren't BFG Vickers like this?

>>63863409
If BFG put a sleeve on their pads to tuck in the excess webbing I wouldn't even consider another sling.

>>63846694
It's called stainless steel.

>>63842981 (OP)
Anyone have a good guide to info on British ammo cans? US cans have some guides on can manufacturer and ammo date codes, etc, but I can't find shit on British, though I think I have most manufacturer initials figured out. Mostly 30 cal cans made 1960-2010, no84 mk1. I strangely ran across what I'd estimate a third of a pallet stack of them (stacked around 3-4 high maybe?) for sale and already bought a few. I sat strangely only because I live in the US and have never really seen British cans, especially at the low price I paid.
>anon, anon, check bocn
Yeah I tried that.
>search "ammo can no 84 mk1"
>search results suck ass wtf?
>we have removed the following words from your search as they are either too short or too common: "can no 84 mk1"
>searching for: "ammo"
Seriously what the fuck is this shit? Imagine if arfcom's search decided the words ar15, m16, m16a1, m16a2, m4, carbine, etc. were "too common" and wouldn't all you to search those terms! What retardation. At least I can tell dates as the cans have the year stamped right on them.

How come scopes and LPVOs are always circle in cross section? Is it some limitation/requirement of how the image is magnified? Why not use a square/squircle cross section/objective/eyepiece so you get a larger image in a body with the same height and width (4>3.14, knowledge bomb).

The existence of the Leupold DEVO leads me to believe that non-circle cross sections can be done

>>63868723
It's much easier to manufacture a round scope.

>>63869058
Oh, and these were a thing back in the day.
They were never very popular, probably because normal scopes had better clarity.

What kind of sling mount do I need to be able to hang a sling from whatever kind of mount this is called? The one I ordered has spring hooks that fit the buttstock just fine but I can't angle the front one through this.

Should I just get a different mount altogether?

>>63869466
Looks like an HK dog leash clip would work perfectly. Available for <$10.

>>63869466
hk hook or one of those front leather things on ak slings, parcord could work too

>>63869889
ak example

Hypothetically could you make a PP Bizon style helical mag for 300 blk or whatever other intermediate cartridge, or does the rounded nose of 9mm enable the design to work?
Please note that there is a difference between "work" and "work well", I already know that helical mags are pretty much all jammy pieces of shit.

>>63842981 (OP)
Wilson combat offers a fairly reasonably priced reburb service on 870s. I've been tempted to send mine over to them because it's such a POS that I won't sell it to anyone.

>>63869893
These things fucking suck.

>>63869947
Yeah but they fit or can be made to fit anything.

>>63851027
congrats man, im happy for you

>>63869947
Seconded, my sks had one and the leather(?) burnt off after a few hundred rounds

Would it be possible to fit a cartridge with dimensions approximating ~6.5x31mm into a handgun without it being nearly as fat and retarded as your average /k/ poster? Or is 5.7 already pushing it?

>>63870238
>6.5x31

Caliber and case length are not the germane dimensions for whether or not a cartridge can feed through the grip. What is the case head diameter and overall length?

I’ve estimated that it’s possible, through grip geometry optimization and using metal mags and metal front/rear grip straps, to feed a cartridge no longer than 1.8” and with a case head no wider than about 9mm through the grip. And such a grip would be about as deep as that of a mk23 (not wide at all though). Big, and not the most comfy, but grippable.

>is 5.7 the limit

I don’t think so. I’ve never held nor even seen one but every image and video of the PSA 57 rock shows a comically small grip for the 5.7x28. A comfy looking one too. Like the external volume of the grip can not possibly contain that magazine, yet it does. So make it out of metal (thinner) and make it a bit deeper and you can fit a longer cartridge with a slightly wider case head (a “slight” increase of 1mm in case head diamater represents a ~30% increase in case capacity - not so slight)

>>63870276
I'm just fantasizing about something like a Coonan or Automag in 8mm Kurz or the like, except not with the ergos of a 2x4

>>63850466
Not him but what are you trying to make? You might be at the point where you'll need to make your own cartridge from the ground up if 5.7 or .30 carbine aren't what you're looking for. Only case head I could think of would be .22 hornet. Every other case head I can think of is pistol.

>>63870564
>8mm Kurz

Gen 1 intermediates are obsolete, why would you even countenance such an idea?

But I know what you mean. Mag-in-grip with intermediate ballistics. Yeah, this idea tickles my balls too. And it can be done, but requires minmaxing everything, optimization of the grip’s internal and external geometry to squeeze every last millimeter you can for cartridge width and length. And it’s all really only made possible with 80kpsi-capable cases. At lower pressures, you just couldn’t possibly use a case with sufficient volume for >1000ft*lbs and an adequate BC (let’s say G7 >0.13). Energy alone is doable (see: 460 rowland), but at the cost of BC and sectional energy.

This works better in an mp7 type gun, like a telescoped rifle, vs a pistol, since any pistol length barrel is gonna nerf the shit out of the cartridge and the muzzle blast will blind and deafen the shooter. MP7 can use a longer barrel and a silencer without becoming so front heavy it’s impossible to shoot. The stock also extends the range at which you can make hits.

>>63847440
>>63850466

I like to think I have a pretty wide knowledge of cartridges, and I can not think of any centerfire rifle cartridge case head smaller than 9.6mm. 5.56 is really at the lowest end of rifle cartridges. Kinda makes sense since rifles and their ammunition were always fuckhuge until the ~2x scaling down to the .223. And with an entire species of rifle and aftermarket centered around the 9.6mm case head, why would anybody make anything smaller*? 5.56 is already quite diminutive.

*= why would anybody IN THE PAST have made anything smaller. There is value in it now, like duplicating or even slightly improving on 5.56 by using a 30 carbine case head at a higher pressure, and feeding from narrower quad stacks (a mere 0.6mm in case head = 2.3mm narrower quad stack magazine, and +5rds to capacity)

What are you trying to do?

>>63870690
Go on wikipedia and sort by base size.

>>63870707
I can not sort the list in the “list of handgun and rifle ammunition” entry by base diameter

>recommending steel wool
Yeah, if you want to take off all the bluing in an area retard.
Use BRASS or BRONZE wool, it won't fuck up the bluing.

>>63842981 (OP)
Important question here, i went to a private cold war museum in Germany, exhibiting tanks, artillery pieces, small arms, basically everything from the era (and some from earlier), East and West German, Soviet, American, it was pretty awesome.

My stupid phone saved the pictures in heic format though, i had to convert them, now they're too big to upload. Can someone explain to a 35 yo boomer like myself how to convert them into a smaller format all at once so i can upload them on here?

Do these guys lift or something?
They're obviously fat as shit but they got broad shoulders and they're arms don't seem all that flabby.

>>63842981 (OP)
You could shove the barrel up your ass and do the harmonics shaker bro

anyone use a pouch for their scope/monocular?
i'm wanting to put a thermal scope on a QD mount and wanna keep it in a pouch or something when i'm not using it, but i dont really see any pouches i like
something surplus is what i'd prefer, like leather or something

>>63870654
Rowland or Dillon are good starting points yeah. I think something like a .40 Super necked down around a 6-7mm projo with maybe an additional ~4mm of case length might be the absolute maximum, and even then like you said there's zero tolerance for slop. I just want something a little more, well, "civilized" than walking around with a Draco down the front of my sweatpants and 5.7 consistently underdelivers on its promises sad to say (a shame since I wanted to like it so much)

>>63870937
Steel wool won't remove bluing unless you scrub like a retard. Part of the process of traditional rust bluing is carding with a steel wire brush.

bump

>>63871099
Resize em in ms paint until under 4mb's

>>63871841
Good news anon, such a cartridge and pistol already exist, exactly as you’ve described it. Picrel (7.5FK, 10mm, 40SW, 9mm) It’s a lengthened 10mm case necked to 30 cal, OAL of like 1.5”. 800-900ft*lbs. Chambered in the FK BRNO and PSD. But like I said, getting to 1000ft*lbs isn’t terribly difficult, it’s coupling this energy to a bullet with an adequate BC to still be formidable at 300 yards or so.

>>63876979
Posting here too.

>>63865684
Adding on to my search, I only now realized there are actually NSNs on the cans. One is yellow text 7.62 4 ball 1 tracer, NSN 1305-99-602-1616 and the other is white text 7.62 4 AP 1 tracer, NSN 1305-12-383-1736. Neither show on ISO-Group NSN search which is odd but I can't say I really ever search any NSNs that aren't American. Stranger yet is I nearly forgot about NSN country codes, but a NATO webpage on NSNs reminded me about them. 4 ball, 1 tracer is code 99, the UK. But 4 AP 1 tracer is code 12, Germany. Kinda neat. Makes me have to even further wonder where the fuck an LGS got a bulk amount of these fucking things at such a low price.

what type/size of screws do I need for my surefire body/mount

I dont mean a link to a 14.99 screw pack, I just want the size, thread pitch, length, etc to find them at the hardware store.

>>63877537
Bring the light to the hardware store and test-fit. They're probably 8-32.

>>63842981 (OP)
I do not have any Glocks.
But I do have a stupid question about Glock magazines.

>Will a Glock 23 magazine reliably feed 9mm in a Glock 19 or 26 if it has a 9mm follower?

The reason I ask this is because I found two Glock 23 magazines in a trash can at the range the other day.
The magazine bodies appear to be fine but only the springs were inside, the followers and baseplates were missing
I somehow don't own any Glocks, but the idea of simply buying some followers and baseplates, and maybe a spring, to have two functioning 9mm mags has given me that damn itch to go buy a used Glock 19 or 26 for a couple hundred bucks.

Thank ye

>>63842981 (OP)
just bought this pof mp5, is there anything i should know before shooting it / as a new MP5 owner ?

>>63879334
>PAKISTAN IS IN THA BAG
don't baby the charging handle, slap it hard

>>63879334
It was made in Pakistan so it may explode in your face.

>>63879031
>>Will a Glock 23 magazine reliably feed 9mm in a Glock 19 or 26 if it has a 9mm follower?
the difference isnt just the follower its the feed lips
that said ive shot 9mm out of normal 40 mags and its been mostly functional. occasionally jams but good enough for range use and still better than the magpul glock mags
the real issue with 9mm in 40 glock mags is its really easy to make the rounds fall out or partially fall out when jarred or dropped. like you pull it out of a pocket and the top rounds not seated.
if its just range use its ok dont drop em but function is fine.
if its carry buy 9mm mags

>>63880426
.t

>>63879353
yeah, been fingerfucking and slaping the shit out of it since i got it , will get to shoot it next week.

Is there a system/device that can intercept bombs dropped by bombers? Like how ERA attacks shells and how anti ballistic missiles attack missiles.
I guess you'd need to have them plastered everywhere because the device wouldn't have much time to reach the bomb. Plus maybe detecting a bomb would be quite hard. It's small so you can't use radar, it's cold so you can't use infra, and if done at night, you can't use optical detection.

>>63880711 (Me)
Maybe it's the case that stopping the bombers from reaching the target is a fruit that hangs much lower.

>>63880711
I don't see any reason why systems designed to shoot down missiles like Patriot, Iron Dome, etc, couldn't take out bombs.

How do I get peacemaker desert eagle? I was thinking fet the 10inch replacement barrel have it cut and threaded and get a custom block like compensator thing

>>63880711
It's completely doable. Shooting down HARMs with tactical SAMs happens all the time at Red Flag. The biggest issue would just be the fact that lots of systems aren't designed to look/shoot "up" and gravity bombs tend to fall pretty much "down". But if you could predict the future and know that a highly technological military fielded by a nation of genetically superior WASPs was going to drop 12x massive gravity bombs on your sovereignty insurance facilities from undetectable bombers, planning on shooting down the bombs would be a reasonable way forward.

>>63842981 (OP)
Thought I'd post this because this channel popped up on my YT recommended because I had watched his 10/22 mag polishing videos when I was having some issues (which IMO turned out to be dirty ammo + silencer = need much more cleaning). Looks like, if your gun is parkerized, you may need to just refinish if you want those spots gone. I tend to have problems with thick rust spots like those on blued guns too; may have to just refinish and repark. youtube.com/watch?v=C2hBwJe3bnY

>>63877096
And another one, yellow text, 1 ball 1 tracer, linked (as were the UK and German ones), with code 19, Brazil. What a weird set of ammo cans. I'll have to go back and dig through them to see if I can find any other country codes on them.

Is staying prone bad for your back?
This guy I know mentioned his back always hurts afterwards so he never shoots prone anymore, he's not that old, like early 50's.

>>63883533
going prone didnt fuck up his back
living 50 years fucked him up and going prone hurts cause everything hurts

>>63874276
isn't there a way to convert them all at once? there's so many of them :(

Im so fucking tired that mods let pedoshit threads stay up

>>63883807
its just a drawing lil bro

>>63883628
JFC you retard, google "heic to jpg batch converter"

>>63883543
This. He's either weak and out of shape from sitting on his ass too much or he previously fucked up his body doing something else.

>>63845507
Iirc, Thompsons were made in one big batch in 1920ish and all sales came from this lot until ww2 when euros started looking for SMGs quickly and in volume. There were variants but these were all refits to already made guns.

I suppose they could have made changes to the gun before the second production run, but they didnt until they were pressured for the US army contract.

It's not like the brits had other options, and they were paying in gold until they managed to clone the mp28 as the Lanchester, then simplify it into the sten.

>>63842981 (OP)

Is there any ear protection with a cutout on the bottom for rifle stocks that actually provides good protection? I use the 3M Peltor Optimes with earplugs because I'm paranoid but they are awkward and keep hitting everything.

I don't know how YouTubers use those Walkers which offer nothing for NRR.

>>63842981 (OP)
Anyone know where to find high resolution files of ads like these? I really want to get some printed for my walls.

with the surge of plates being commonplace on the battlefield that can stop most cartridges from standard issue rifles, is it possible there will be a sort of return to SMGs?
with all that extra weight they have to carry as armor, night vision, quality of life stuff, etc. in combination with needing a higher volume of fire to deal with hitting gaps in ballistic armor, it seems like the average soldier would much prefer to run around with a smaller gun that can hold more ammo for the same amount of weight
and i'm talking mostly about like the situation in ukraine, where soldiers are living off what they can carry on both sides as opposed to the way the US usually does things where we have a near endless logistics chain

>>63884592
>retard
well i did say that i have already converted them all to jpeg, but now they're too big too upload

>>63883628
AYYKAYY FORTYSEVENS FOR EVERYONE!!!

>>63885635
There are tons of programs which will batch-rescale images. Graphics Workshop Professional is one example, there's tons of others. You can find them by searching "batch downsize jpg" or "batch resize jpg".

>>63885635
>>63886210
Use XNConvert, I use it for taking photos then downscaling (JPEG, 80%) to be portable on all boards.

>>63885358
No because it reduces the effective range too much. Battlefields are unpredictable. Sure an SMG might work for trench raiding but then suddenly you're trading fire with a treeline 300m away and you're fucked.
Also now you have guns with trouble penetrating soft armor in addition to plates, making them even less lethal.
Look at your Ukraine example to see how outside of arty/armor type guys there's very little SMG use, and very little ultra short rifle demand. A 14-16 ish barrel intermediate caliber gives the flexibility needed. A normal soldier even in a military like the U.S. can't easily swap out guns for something that's a better fit on the fly. You get what you get. Even more so in Ukraine. You want a gun that works at both close and mid range when you're only going to get one.

where can i get a cruiser style fore end?

What’s the optic on this braphogs rifle?

>>63887828
aimpoint pro

Howdy all, I just inherited this old fox double gun that is missing a chunk of wood from the stock right up where it butts into the receiver (pic included).

Could this cause a problem if I were to fire this gun, enough to warrant a replacement or repair? I’m concerned that since it’s missing a chunk from the upper left side that firing especially from the left barrel can cause it to “twist” its way out of the stock and eventually come loose. I mostly be firing trap loads out of this but I would also like to fire buck and slugs from it and i don’t want to worry about it breaking on me. Just doing a quick search for used stocks this rough area seems to be a common break point.

>>63887879
The battery compartment and front lens look off. Is it just an old model?

>>63842981 (OP)
is life in the special forces much safer then the regular infantry?

>>63884676
The Impact Sports work okay for rifles for me but IDK what NRR they have and I mostly shoot 22s. And these days it's a lot of silenced shooting so rarely do I wear them (especially hunting becuase of aforementioned silenced 22). Works good with AR stocks. Gel cups are also an upgrade I keep putting off.

Had a little paragraph typed out but then I realized it was sort of dumb. Is the Tec-9 just a PCC? I was going to ask why "pistols" similar in design aren't more popular since I'd like something similar but in a larger caliber. Which would just be an SBR at that point.

>>63887893
thats a problem, most SxSs don't have a lot of bearing surface for the action to begin with. any competent gunsmith should be able to fit and glue a new piece of wood, and stain it to match.
>slugs
please measure the chokes before you do this, its entirely possible that only the right barrel (or neither barrel) is open enough to handle slugs. also, keep velocities low. your stock already cracked once.

>>63868723
>How come scopes and LPVOs are always circle in cross section

because thats how lenses work my dude....you can make rectangular lenses.....but theres really no point and it just adds complexity

pictures are only rectangles because the film was that shape....and the film was made that shape because paintings before that were typically that shape.

>>63842981 (OP)
I want to get some short shorts like the ones in picrel, not in a camo pattern, and not modern polyester $50 nike running shorts, just reasonably priced olive/khaki shorts with about a 5" inseam.

Does anyone know where to look for these or what search terms I should be looking up?

>>63868723
Because lenses are spun to be ground into shape. It's wasteful to chop the edges off for no reason. And to then make scopes square would make them weaker and much more difficult (and expensive) to manufacture, again for no reason whatsoever.

>>63889367
Go to JC Pennys or Macys or something. They’ll be everywhere. You need to try them on anyways

Are aimpoints worth the money? I'm a full believer in paying for good glass, but I have a hard time seeing why a basic dot commands that pricetag, other than those sweet sweet pentagon contracts.

>>63889202
Thanks anon, I’ll look for a used one or maybe a new made Boyd’s one.

The chokes are unmarked but it appears that the right is a fair bit more open than the left, I haven’t figured out what choke it is yet but I suspect it’s mod/full as that seems to be what Savage used for their lower end 311 gun

>>63842981 (OP)
OP im being dead serious here but buy several gallons of white vinegar and leave that shit over night and scrub with a copper brush. Make sure to buy some cold bluing or line up someone to hot blue it or else your entire gun will be surface rust in a day or two (may want to oil it up if its gonna take more than a day to drop it off at your chosen bluer)

>>63842981 (OP)
does anyone know how similar the AKB-23's receiver dimensions are to a regular AR? I wanna get one but i live in a ban state and I'm wondering if it'll be able to take a maglcok system

>>63890878
Depends, I might get shit for this but dot sights are a good example of the 80/20 rule, we are at the point where a sig or Holosun sight is good enough that it’s the best sight for 99% of the shooter community. No denying that aimpoints have better glass quality and are probably more bombproof but the question is the extra $700 worth it for the last few percent of improvement when you can do better with a Holosun and a few cans of ammo. I’m happy with my sig Romeo 7s even under NV and I have friends who Romeo 5s in all sorts of conditions.

Buying used is an option too, going rate for a used comp m4 is 500 or so on reddit and tacswap

>>63842981 (OP)
Send it to Wilson Combat for the refresh package, it starts at like $230.

>>63848743
Nice, based Colt mag. I want to build a leetl barrel one next.

>>63842981 (OP)
Has anyone heard about SNT Motiv's K2s? Are they just going to be vaporware? When are we getting them?

>>63891228
NTA but IIRC there's a trick with coins you can use that gets you pretty close to knowing for sure. You'll have to find it on youtube. It works partially on feel but you can figure out what the choke sizes are pretty damn close with it.

>>63891245
Citric acid works better than vinegar for rust removal IME. Wipe with sponge or #0000 steel wool to get the leftover junk off after pulling it out. Like $6 for citric acid in the canning aisle at Walmart, white container, red lid. You can also add washing soda and dawn to make evaporust to prevent it eating good metal.

>>63891591
Vinegar is meh unless you get the super high concentration stuff which is not so easily found. Muriatic acid (hydrochloric) is good. It's inexpensive and easily found since it's sold at hardware stores for cleaning concrete and adjusting pH in swimming pools.

Pop quiz hotshot, you just built a 6.5 SNEEDMOOR bolt action rifle and you've shot 140 rounds through it and noticed 140 marks on the action that look like brass deflection marks, HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?

>>63892000
Speaking of, IIRC Tractor Supply sells ~10% Vinegar in regular vinegar jugs. May be higher; I forget. But my recommendation for citric is still what I'd consider the best since it can so easily be made into evaporust to make sure it doesn't even touch anything but the rust. That and the powder doesn't really "go bad" or dry out.

>>63892010
Time to break out the cloth tape. Hope it's just brass streaks and not dents or damage under that as well.

>>63892018
But how on Earth is the brass hitting that??? It doesn't make any sense to me. Is this common with bolt actions?

>>63892011
10% isn't too hard to find. I was surprised to spot 30% at Home Depot a few weeks ago while I was there for something else. But yeah, citric is preferable to vinegar, the nice thing about powder is you can mix whatever concentration you want.

>>63892043
>But how on Earth is the brass hitting that???
The ejector kicks the brass out while the extractor claw is still holding onto the groove near the case head. This makes the brass spin around as it ejects. The mouth of the brass ends up hitting the action there.

>>63892057
Made me look. Yep, it's 1 gal 30% at Tractor Supply, too. Definitely made me look twice.

>>63892065
Gad dang. I guess I need to contact Howa CS, since has apparently occurred on every round I've shot.Thanks for the explanation.

>>63887918
aimpoint comp m2, other anon is a retard

>>63842981 (OP)
I'm trying to figure out how to measure OAL for a rifle with a folding stock to make sure any rifles I want to buy aren't going into (IIRC) AOW territory. I remember hearing multiple things in the past but from what I've read in multiple ATF documents it seems you measure rifles with folding or collapsing stocks with the stock fully extended as repeatedly it's mentioned that since it's a rifle, it's designed and intended to be fired from the shoulder. However, I can't seem to find a clear answer in written law like 18 USC, only various ATF documents. Here in form 5310.1, page 6, it seems that the ATF agrees in measuring OAL with the stock extended as well as in an excerpt of a 2019 document clarifying their stance on braces at that time (there was a mention of how measuring braced pistols differs from measuring a rifle). Also it does seem that the WASR underfolder on Atlantic, RI3321-N, is 25 3/4" when folded, which further makes me think what little I found is correct. Any anons have better documents or excerpts from 18 USC that are clearer?

The other document. Orange is about braced firearms but semi-relevant. Yellow is about rifles with folding stock which is what I was looking for (but searching about folding stocks brings up nothing but pages about braces).

Are MCX Rattlers gtg, or do they also suffer from SIG's shit QC? I'm assuming it only applies to their Spears (and 320s). Thinking about finally getting a .300 chimpout if Orange Man's bill goes through. The only thing holding me back is waiting for a potentially cheaper can.

>>63893326
Everything SIG is shit, why would you think any differently for any product in their line?

>>63842981 (OP)
spray with wd40, ballistol, hammerite whatever oil
put in plastic bag
wait a day
go over it with soft a brass brush (spark plug brushes f.i.) or copper kettle cleaning pad and scratch rust blooms off
now you must decide:
keep it blank and oiled to prevent further rust
or
reblue the blank spots with quick blueing liquid, it will be a better rust protection but more work since you must degrease the blank spots

finish will look a bit specky in both ways but better than now and no more rust.

thats common knowledge btw.
torpedo tits rule btw.

>>63892270
>I guess I need to contact Howa CS,
Why? It's not a malfunction.

>>63894143
Yeah, I guess not. This is the reply I got from Howa:
>That is normal. Mine does the same thing. Simple fix is a little bit of black electrical tape in that spot if you want to protect your brass.
I'm new to bolt action shooting, but This just seems odd to me.

>>63894752
Try shooting more than one prior time before you go all Karen and contact CS next time huh champ?

>>63894807
Are you daft? I stated that I shot it 140 times, I included a photo, I then asked anonymous porn addicts on 4channel QTDDTOT thread if this was normal, AND THEN I asked Howa. Why don't you take Nikolay's (that's the name of the CS guy who responded to me) cock out of your mouth and say thank you that I'm not reporting (you) to his manager rn?

>>63892915
atf does fully extended, no muzzle device.
however certain states do fully collapsed/folded/shortest possible no muzzle device
other states count the muzzle device for overall
which means you could have something federally legal and illegal in state.
the state thing made it complicated and like everything the atf refuses to set in stone what the actual measurement is.

>>63894752
I've done that on my C308, like 4 layers of it to reduce how much damage the brass does bouncing off. Come to think of it I also have a Howa 1500 in .308 that does the same thing, although it's not mangling the brass so I don't really care.
>>63893326
I wouldn't trust Sig with anything this day and age, especially for the money they're asking.
>>63891256
Not a chance. If California you'll have to go featureless.

Or since it will get DROSed as a receiver, just don't store or transport it with the upper attached.
>>63889160
No, it's an oversized pistol, similar in vein to one of the semi-auto MAC-10/UZI pistols. PCC specifically refers to pistol caliber rifles, although if you put a brace on it the line gets blurry.
It's kind of an odd category of guns that doesn't really have a specific term I'm aware of.
>>63888149
Probably not since they have to actually do small operations during peacetime that infantry doesn't get sent to do, and during a full on war they are right in the spearhead.
>>63885358
No, there's still range and barrier penetration. They went in circles considering bringing back battle rifles but those have too many trade offs as well. Best strategy is still just to shower the enemy with 5.56mm and explosives then hope it works.

>>63894870
>Howa actually hired a Slav just to tell sperg anon NYET RIFLE IS FINE
I want this to be real because it's too funny.

>>63895091
You best start believing in threads where Howa actually hired a Slav just to tell some sperg anon NYET RIFLE IS FINE... YOU'RE IN ONE!

>>63895316
Kek, he even admits having one that does the same thing.
To be fair it's really a non-issue. Does the rifle have any problems other than the case ejection?

>>63895045
That's what I was thinking. I don't think my state is retarded enough to do rifle length different as we have no magazine restrictions or AWBs outside like two cities I'm thankfully quite far from. Fish and Game shouldn't have an issue with it as IIRC they go off ATF definition, but I may have to double check their pages. Here's hoping I don't have to give them a call because they absolutely fucked their phone helplines "upgrading" and "centralizing" everything turning easy local calls into a fucking mess.

>>63895551
>Does the rifle have any problems other
What makes you think this is a "problem"? Does the social media generation value a pristine finish more than reliable ejection?

>>63842981 (OP)
>Is there anything I can do about this on a Remshit 870?

Do what others have said to clean it up the best you can and sell it. You'll never stop having problems with a Rustington.

If you really want an 870 you really have to spring for a vintage model that's pre Freedom Group, or just buy a Mav 88 if you want something cheap that will work and not corrode before your eyes.

Private equity has done was private equity always does. They buy some company that has a decent reputation and run quality into the ground, extracting as much cash as they can before the public wises up and stops buying their shit.

>>63895551
I'm new to bolt actions, so idk. It seems like everything else is fine I guess. It can be a little cumbersome and sticky when working the bolt to eject rounds, but I assume it'll get smoother over time.

>>63895674
STFU BIIIIIIITCH! How'm I going to get epic updoots and Instathot gunbunnies sliding into my DMs if I can't drop le epic gunsooming pics on the TL. Don't ever @ me again, chudgot.

>>63895077
Noted. Thanks for letting me know. I guess this is normal. I just though given how the gun works, the brass would simply shoot out the side and not impact the gun. It doesn't particularly bother me, but if wvery single round is going to do it, I'll probably tape something over that spot to protect it long term. Do they make any in particular for that? I gotta have to L33T3$Ŧ operator gear for my hardcore sniper rifle.

>>63895779
I just used regular black electric tape on mine. You can do a lot on a gun with electric tape.

>>63895779
>Do they make any in particular for that? I gotta have to L33T3$Ŧ operator gear for my hardcore sniper rifle.
Camo hunter's tape? That's about the most tacticool tape gets unless you want to buy something usually used on other rifles. Blue Russian electrical tape for AKMs (just buy some 3M in blue), paki tape (is that really tape or just cord?), OD green US surplus duct tape (my surplus 30rd M4 mags are covered in the stuff). I don't think anyone makes specific case deflector tape lol. Maybe a thick rubber strip tape or something if 3M makes it.

>>63852154
Glock mags are the best mags.

>just work
>cheap
>everywhere
>use a magula if woman fingers wont allow you to load the 33 rounders

>>63842981 (OP)
Trying to do some research for a ttrpg. What kind of guns would the DEA be using in the late 90s early 2000s? Particularly prior to 2003?

All I seem to find are sources talking about the modern loadouts of glowies.

>>63844202
>Mine is from somewhere around 2017, well after they fucked up their finishing process. My dad has a 20 gauge 870 Wingmaster from probably the 70's and the finish is still wonderful, even though he's never been the most diligent about cleaning and oiling
Exact same story with me and my dad, except mine is from 2010

>>63895779
The soft/fuzzy side of self-adhesive Velcro is commonly used to prevent ejection marks.

>>63844202
I'm sort of exaggerating a bit but the finish is pure dogshit, I know its a express so its lower end but i thought at least back in the 90s they still wouldn't be that bad

>>63842981 (OP)
Degrease with acetone and use brownells oxpho-blue or cerakote it.

>>63869466
I'm fond of the blueforce gear loops.

anyone have good business name ideas? mostly gonna be a side thing doing it for passion than to really make a name or a shit ton of profit, where i'll be selling mostly forced reset triggers i've designed for a few guns that don't yet have one
name can be a shitpost it can be professional it can be whatever as long as it sounds good

Currently in Japan and went to a military clothing shop. They had real Pmags for sale. Gen 2s (I think) for about 7500 yen, and gen 3s for about 13000. Would it be a viable business strategy to sell mags to jap airsofters? Anyways what's with the crazy price? I get that they don't have easy access to firearms related items but there's no way anyone's buying that shit

>>63850466
I *think there's a weird euro chambering that's effectively rimless .22 hornet, but it might be some semi-rimmed weirdness, can't remember.

>>63896002
>>63897077
>>63897448
Thanks!

>>63897331
DEA was using Rock River Arms AR-15s the, no?

>>63897448
Fuck, that too. Putting a bit of it where the center pad of an AR ejection port door smacks can quiet the door opening a ton. If you put the fuzzy side on the door and the lower fencing (ridge) it hits it'll be even quieter. I've had some on my first AR for nearly 10 years at this point. Not sure why that bothered me other than the condition of my AR but it helps when hunting somewhat, mostly in niche conditions.

>>63898509
Oh also if you do use electrical tape, don't cheap out, just buy a roll of 3M made tape. The offbrand crap from Harbor Freight and Dollar Tree has its adhesive turn into syrup in no time. Then the tape slip slides around and you have this fun sticky patch you have to clean off with alcohol or goo gone only to do it all again in like 1-3 months.

>>63900167
I like the idea of the fuzzy velcro. I wonder Home Teapot has some good 3M branded patches I can buy.

what are the most popular go to stores?
There's Buds
There's Dahlagoe armory
what else

>>63900301
Sneed's

>>63898416
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HTz5xh0Z-0c

>>63898444
No because ITAR makes that illegal

>>63898444
>there's no way anyone's buying that shit
airshitters do, they cut the lips and mod them to use them in their replicas, they prob got the Pmags from the USMC base by asking the right people also no, ITAR and japanese weapons import/export laws will fuck you up hard

I'm looking for stripper clips for my M96 Swedish Mauser, living in Australia - bought a few off ebay a while ago, but I can't find any at a reasonable price now - are the 6.5x55mm clips pretty much interchangeable with other Mauser stripper clips, or do I need ones specifically for this cartridge?

>>63902647
You have guns down there? I thought you were cucked from those.

>>63902736
Shh, don't tell the Karens

>>63902820
She's a beauty!

Is 30-06 a cartridge to get into if I already have two 308 WIN rifles?

Are there any good private hunting grounds in PA/DE that rent gear? I'm gonna be visiting family there around September and would love to hunt in a colder environment.

I'd rather rent any deer rifle or so instead of bringing all my stuff abroad and dealing with ATF paperwork.

>>63904815
No, it's not significantly more capable than .308. Any shot you could make with one you could make with the other. If you need more out of a .30 cal then .300 Win Mag is worth looking at. That is significantly more powerful than .308, is very popular for both hunting and long-range shooting, and the ammo is common.

>>63904815
it kicks like a mule and its more expensive
the main appeal is the guns chambered in it rather than the cartridge itself

>>63904815
no, get a 300 winmag if you want a significant step up in power an superior BC

>>63892010
Case is whipping around and striking the receiver upon ejection. Degrease with acetone. Get the fuzzy side of velcro. Heat the back of the velcro so it gets soft and melty, then stick it on there.

What is exactly the difference between a striker and a firing pin? I've had somebody IRL tell me it's because there's no hammer with a striker, but that doesn't seem right given that there are fixed firing pin guns with no hammers.

>>63905081
a striker strikes the firing pin
even if it sounds redundant to not just have the firing pin attached to the striker, its important for a lot of designs

>>63905081
also a fixed firing pin design is just a simple open bolt gun, it has no striker or hammer and simply the force of the bolt sets off the cartridge

>>63905081
Striker is what gets held in place by the sear prior to firing, firing pin is what actually engages the primer when the striker drops. Often times these two parts are merged into one, but this is not universally true. For instance on bolt action rifles they are usually striker fired and often the firing pin itself is just part of an overall striker assembly.
>>63904878
I don't think you need to fill out ATF paperwork to check in a regular rifle on a flight, but you do have to wrangle with the TSA.
In any case I'd check if there are any really fuddy gun shops in the area and give them a call. They usually know somebody.
>>63904815
Not really. It doesn't do a whole lot that 308 can't. If you want precision and longer range look at 6.5 Creedmoor. If you want to wreck shit at that longer range look at .300WM
>>63902647
They are pretty close but not interchangeable. Try to find some for 7mm Mauser, they might work. Principally it's not rim diameter but clips meant for the 1894 action tend to be narrower than those meant for 98s.
I defer to other anons with more recent experience because I'm going off really old recollection on this.
>>63900301
The best is going to be a bro-tier LGS that you shop at frequently until they get to know you and hook you up with deals.
As far as online most of them are dropshippers. They don't have any actual inventory and never even see or interact with the product. They just place an order for you from a distributor, cutting dealers out and charging you a few bucks for the service.
>>63898444
ITAR is a thing.
NEET collectors willing to spend money on an authentic object are a thing.
It's a captive small market with esoteric demand and very limited supply. You can try to capitalize on it, but doing so legally and on a large scale legally without flooding the market would be tricky. Nobody has done it because it's probably not worth the squeeze and if it becomes more of a thing than it already is, Japan might move to regulate.

>>63904878 (You)
>>63905168
i'm a foreigner, been to the US before for competitions I had to fill a ton of paperwork and even show them the invitation from a gun club, I imagine for hunting its like that or worse so I'd rather just rent some .308/.270 deer rifle, buy a few boxes of ammo and the tags and be done, apparently the PA Hunting permit comes with tags included, one for each species for a year

>>63842981 (OP)
did anything happen to the anons making these resin grips? Think i might buy an LCR for CCW (probably .22lr) and i'd love to have these grips

>>63895077
>>>63888149 (You)
>Probably not since they have to actually do small operations during peacetime that infantry doesn't get sent to do, and during a full on war they are right in the spearhead.

Don't they get lot of support and they are always hidden?

does anyone have that one image of that improvised .50 BMG submachine gun that some cartel monkey made

>>63842985
Thread could have ended here.

does anyone have any idea on what model of rifle the foam is for in this case? its a pelican 1750 I got from a DRMO auction reseller off of bragg

>>63905423
are the grips ULEM?

>>63905220
Places that just randomly "rent guns" that you can take off the premises don't exist. Some shooting ranges have guns for rent but you can't take them off the range. Hunting guide services sometimes have guns they will loan you. I'd Email various hunting guides/outfitters in the area you'll be going, and ask if they have any loaner rifles they can hook you up with. Just explain the situation like you did here.

>>63842981 (OP)
May somebody post 2 war clips i missed?
>zigger su-25 shoots down his wingman with rockets?
>fpv detonates and ignites korean mlrs that flies thru the cabin
Thanks!

>>63904892
>>63904897
>>63904910
>>63905168
>308 vs 30-06 discussion
>use 6.5 Sneedmore or 300 WM anon

Hmmm. My ranges are under Communist rule (a.k.a., the Democratic Party), so I'm not sure if I have the option to function test that far out (100 yds is about the maximum, even outdoor firing ranges).

If I'm going big (458 WIN? LOL), I might as well go there. 300 WM is more commercially available, yes?

I don't reload (no space at home).

>>63842981 (OP)
Is Wilson still doing the Remington Steal?

>>63908774
>If I'm going big (458 WIN? LOL)
That's a dangerous game hunting round, a totally different thing. I don't know about where you live but in the US rifles in that caliber are surprisingly cheap on the used market because people buy them, shoot three rounds, and then stop because their shoulder hurts. If you're a recoil junkie it's worth considering. The ammo is expensive and not exactly common either. That is not a caliber many people shoot for fun.

>>63905220
>apparently the PA Hunting permit comes with tags included, one for each species for a year
Regular hunting license comes with:
>Resident Adult Hunting (incl small game like squirrel and maybe some others)
>Antlered or Flintlock Tag
>Fall Turkey Tag
>Spring Turkey Tag
To hunt fox, coyote, raccoon, opossum, you need a furbearer license. To hunt stocked pheasant and quail you need licenses for those. For duck you need a license for those. Deer can't be hunted with semi-autos.

>>63908178
Nta but what's ULEM?

>>63902647
>are the 6.5x55mm clips pretty much interchangeable with other Mauser stripper clips
Somewhat; the Swedish 6.5x55mm clips work in Mauser rifles chambered in 7x57mm, but they are too wide to fit in the charger guide for 8x57mm clips. Conversely, the 8x57 clips won't seat in the Swede's charger guides and the clip will go into the magazine along with the cartridges. Easy way to tell them apart at a glance is that the 8x57mm clips have three lugs on each side of the clip, whereas all the others have two (or none, in the case of 7.65x53mm clips). Swedish clips also work very well in US rifles chambered for .30-'06, as well as SOME of the Mauser 98 rifles converted to .30-'06.

>>63902820
Sweden YES!


>>63905168
>tend to be narrower than those meant for 98s.
You have it backwards. The 6.5x55mm and 7x57mm clips are wider. It also depends as much on the caliber of the rifle as to which clip the rifle uses because many countries that adopted some variant of Mauser 98 had already adopted an earlier Mauser variant that used an older style of clip, and thus their new M98 was cut to use those same clips to simplify logistics. For instance: Argentine Model 1909 rifles still use the no-lug clip meant for the Model 1891 and aren't cut at all for a lugged clip.

>>63842981 (OP)
What are some good older milsurp pistols with a ten round capacity or less you can carry every now and then in the winter? preferably in 9mm. star? zastava's? preferably da/sa but any is fine. or things like the smith third gen series or sig 225/239? any recs?

>>63909175
>458 WIN is pain

308 gives me an ache after five or six shots - I was considering a Benelli R1 for reduced recoil for a while.

IDK. I'm more interested in 12 Gauge (not necessarily skeet, although that's addictively fun) but figure I could keep mall-ninja / upgrading myself past 308 WIN with a more potent cartridge - picunrel

>>63908169
it looks like an AR

>>63909541
I meant like a mk12 or something. I want to figure what its worth to a cloner.

>>63909307
Polyetherimide or PEI
its a neat material they make knife handles and such from.
It was supposed to say ULTEM but this keyboard is shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyetherimide

>>63908774
You should stick to 308 then. It'll be cheaper to shoot and the ballistic advantage of other calibers won't be relevant. Even 223/556 is more than capable within 100yd.
>>63909325
Yeah I remember it was not cross compatible but I forgot which way.

>>63905423
IIRC there's Neon Forest Industries but IIRC there was a guy making them before him which may be what you're looking for. I don't know if that guy ever went by any name or had a fixed website to buy them from. I think Burt in /hg/ might have a set of the earlier ones?

>>63909581
>thermoplastic
>starts to soften at 422F
Damn! Only asking because I'm trying to make replacement bits for old guns myself and I'm running into issues with heat where parts soften again. Probably around 110F to 140F, like a car interior. I've found some resins that require a post-cure bake that may solve this, though. Trying to keep it to resins for simplicity's sake. (I also think the ABS/Nylon repro parts with modern bead blasted textured mold finish looks like ass so straight copying LNIB originals to get as close to original textures as possible is better IMO)

>>63909883
>Neon Forest Industries
oh yeah those seem pretty similar if not the ones.
I remember some anons made orders for them so maybe ill go ask burt

Are shotguns still good weapons for home defense or are they boomer tier if you don't hunt or shoot clays vs an ar/ak+handgun?

>>63910103
>are shotguns still good weapons for home defense

Where do you live, and what sort of home do you live in?

Condo or apartment? You may want an AR or SBR to reduce penetration.

Detached housing in a suburb? Hard yes.

Rural ranch set up? AR or carbine.

Anyone hear anything noteworthy about these under-bed safes by SnapSafe? Looks like a cool idea but I don't want a 100 pound turd if they're no good

>>63842981 (OP)
Nogunz retard here. I am fascinated by derringers and rather like them in concept, but really, is there any reason to carry them in the modern day as opposed to a more normal semiautomatic handgun?

Additionally, are the old cheapo "no excuses" firearm purchase guides still good? I have one from about 2020 but was just curious.

>>63910338
If you want a small handgun get a compact semi-auto or a revolver. And prices have massively changed since 2020.

>>63910338
Derringers have always been a pretty crappy better-than-nothing carry gun at best. Tricky to carry, use or hit anything with and you have 1-2 shots on board. Even a 5-shot J frame is leagues better.

If all you have is a Derringer and you absolutely can't get anything else then sure. But if you are looking to buy one there's a whole profusion of cheap 9mm automatic pocket pistols for ~$150-250 that would blow it out of the water. There's just no reason to gimp yourself like that if given a choice.

As far as poorfag guide, the market constantly shifts and 2020 was a very unique time. Things are much different now. Watch for a new /pfg/ thread.
>>63910310
Better than nothing. They also take up space you might otherwise not be using which is convenient, but unless you have a takedown rifle/shotgun you would only be storing handguns there.
>>63910103
They still work and they are still dirt cheap. A Maverick 88 can be had for well under $200 used and will put anyone dumb enough not to back up into a body bag in a hurry. #4 buckshot is still a great middle ground between turning burglars into hamburger and not over-penning walls as well.
That said, AR-15s are cheaper than ever. A $400 AR can get you 30rds on tap that will punch well above their caliber while tumbling after 2 layers of drywall and being able to tag a perp across the street if necessary. That is becoming the go-to solution for a lot of reasons. Personally I would feel very well protected with either option.

>>63910103
Buy a draco

>>63908169
Where do you get these auctions?

Are Warne scope mounts good?
I hear US Optics is basically shit now

>>63910852
They have tiers of quality. Their cheap rings are extruded chinese. Their milled ones are Talley tier. Their Mountain Tech are Seekins/Vortex tier.

Anyone with the Smith & Wesson M&P M2.0 10m care to share experiences and thoughts on it? Debating get either it or a HK USP 45, specifically as a SHTF sidearm. Looking for best mix of reliability and power.

>>63910310
>underbed safe

If it's not secured to the floor, it'll vanish in a dedicated team burglary.

I'm wondering if there's a way to do a concealed wall safe affordably and without professional labor.

>>63911022
>100% of every contractor crew are border hopping beaners with no skills or experience and a lukewarm IQ
>professional labor

>>63910837
it was out of ft Bragg. I bought the 1750 case with the foam for $100 and dude had like 25 of them for sale. he got them from a DRMO auction or something equivalent. I'm waiting for him to get the big roller pelican warboxes.

Local store has a Ruby Arms .25ACP pocket pistol but the price seems pretty high at $374. I haven't been able to find much about this specific model since most I see online have the safety towards the front instead of the rear. Picture on the left is one I took at the store, gun on the right is an image of the same model I found online. Anyone know more about these/have one? Is this a reasonable asking price? Also got to fondle a norinco sks in nice condition they wanted $600 for.

>>63911204
They are on crack. That's like a $200 gun at most. The SKS is overpriced by about $100-200 as well.

>>63908169
>off Bragg
Where/when, and how can I learn when they're doing these? I live in Fayettnam and want shit like this

Does anyone know if a PSA KS47 lower will mate to a JAKL or BRN-180 upper?

>>63909503
That little girl for president.

>>63911524
he was on Facebook marketplace. I bought it 2 years ago and its been sitting since my parents died and I had just lost interest in everything.

I want to get the foam sold off since its literally clone correct and paint the entire thing. theres crazy deals on there for pelican. I lived over by cliffdale and 401 when I bought it, and dudes sell them at yardsales al the time. you can get all the replacement parts for free under warranty. you just pay a few bucks for shipping. It needs skateboard wheels though.

>>63911022
>I'm wondering if there's a way to do a concealed wall safe affordably and without professional labor.
Drywall work is easy to learn. Go watch "Vancouver Carpenter" on Youtube.

There is an old handgun ad of a woman in waist high water, wearing jeans and a wet white shirt holding the gun. Does anyone have it saved?

>>63908193
Well I found a place in Delaware which is close enough that rents you a rifle/shotgun to hunt within limited private land so that's the sort of stuff I'm looking for, however they only do turkey or duck for "non-members", maybe turkey would be fun but I wanted to hunt Deer.

>>63909301
I'm perfectly fine with using bolt actions for deer

Would it be dumb to sell my aimpoint pro and get an eotech? I kind of want an optic with a larger window but I'm not running nods.
>inb4 yougonnadiewithoutnods

>>63909352
Stars are either good or lemons. I rolled a 1 on my BM and got a weak barrel link and a super soft steel slide stop. Most should be fine but after mine I don't know how much I'd trust one. Still need a slide stop (attached to a pin that goes through the barrel link) and ideally having had this happen, a recoil spring replacement just in case. Broke the link like 2-3 shots into my first mag with standard cheap CCI/Blazer either brass or aluminum cased.

>>63913928
You are LITERALLY going to die without NV and thermals

>>63842981 (OP)
>rpg game system has loose firearm rules
>breaks pistols into 3 categories: light, medium, and heavy
>each category lists a few example calibers and firearms that would be represented by the stat block
>has .38 special as an example light handgun round and 9mm as an example medium handgun round
Is my autism justified in being mad about .38 special being put in the same category (and therefore damage bracket) as .380acp, .32acp, and .22lr instead of 9mm and .40 S&W?

>>63842981 (OP)
Unregulated and untaxed suppressors when?

>>63916251
Apparently never ever, because the GOP cares more about bashing trannies than they do about expanding anybody's rights. Renowned zionist and ZOG mercenary, Dan Crenshaw, had no qualms about forcing through the removal of healthcare for trans people, despite the parliamentarian removing it. However, when it comes to restoring our 2A rights, he and the rest folded like a wet blanket. So the next time you're filling out an NFA form or asking them approval to take your rifle across state lines or trying to camp and shoot on public lands where you once shot but come to find is now owned by Jeff Bezos, just take comfort knowing that at least some troon who you never met somewhere lost their healthcare. MIGA!

>>63915836
It sounds retarded. .38 is pretty much identical to 9mm ballistically so they both ought to be in the same damage category. And I'm having a hard time thinking of any game balance reasons why that might make sense. Some games make revolvers more powerful than semis to balance their lower capacity and slower reload. That's not realistic but at least it makes sense in terms of game logic. Having .38 be weaker makes no sense at all, either in terms of balance or realism.

>>63916960
Kys

>>63842981 (OP)
why do sling companies like ESD and Ferro fold their padded slings in half putting a huge flat crease in the middle of the pad

https://www.ebay.com/itm/336014394599
could these be legit or SHIT

>>63915563
confirmed, am posting from the dead.

>>63915563
I haven't had either for over 30 years and I'm still not dead, /arg/ lies

>>63910338
No, not really. Size is really the only consideration I could think of but frankly get a Keltec P-32 or some other little pocket semi or revolver and deal with a slightly larger handgun that has a reasonably sized grip and has more than 1-2 manually cocked shots. And if you're fine with manually cocking frankly get one of those silly little 22LR/22WMR revolvers that hold like 5 rounds. There are anons who claim to carry those (god help their ears).

>>63918460
(pic)

How would a private seller ship a rifle after selling it on something like gunbroker/forum/etc?
Can I just bring it to my LGS and eat the transfer fee? I seem to get mixed answers about using UPS or USPS, which I doubt would be much cheaper anyhow.

>>63919817
These days, to ship a firearm, you usually need a special FFL account with the courier. Seriously, tty taking a gun into FedEx or UPS and see the look on the kids' faces. Yes, just take it to your preferred FFL and tell them you need to ship it to another FFL. They'll handle everything (assuming you have a copy of the receiver's FFL) and charge you a fee for the service (or free if they really like you).

>>63910338
Are you assassinating someone and need to wear something revealing and need a gun that's still small enough to blend into lingerie? Otherwise, no, they don't serve a purpose.

>>63910197
NTA, but I live in the bottom of a duplex made of bricks. Overpenetration shouldn't be much of a concern for me with a shotgun, should it? So long as I'm not shooting up.

Why was the T-26 the best tank of WW2

>>63920800
Because it was so easy to burn with molotovs and stop with birch logs.

is this gtg?

>>63923007
IIRC I bought something from Dahlonega but I forget what. As long as it's their real site (though who would make a fake duplicate site of a random LGS instead of a major manufacturer?), they're GTG. They've been listed on ammoseek and gun.deals for years. Go search for 9mm or 223 on ammoseek and I almost guarantee they'll be in the top 50 listings (lowest cpr first).

>>63842981 (OP)
Brother, I feel your pain.

Mossy 590 cruiser finish is struggling, but recoverable.

>>63923523
Remove plastic furniture and parts in the white or plated (bolt?) And boil. Steam also supposedly works if you want to put a 3-4" dia PVC pipe (~4-5' long) with holes drilled a the top to fasten a wire across the top (to hang barrels) on a paint can lid and fill the can with water. Then #0000 should remove the remaining, if not, boil and #0000 until good. Mark Novak has a video on both boiling and steaming. Steam might've been the video with his friend Bob IIRC.

Though if that's not a bead blasted blue and instead it's a paint finish, god help you.

>>63884747
Buy old copies of Jane’s International Defense Review and get them professionally scanned. There’s not a lot of good ones available online that aren’t phone photos

>>63909883
ABS, ASA, PC, and maybe PETG should all be safe at the temperatures you’re talking about. I’m an FDM guy though, no idea if any of those have equivalents in the resin world.

What type of surface finish are you going for? There are a lot of spray on texture coatings that look great, even one to mimic HK plastic. https://jeffstoybox.blogspot.com/2021/01/making-your-prints-look-likenot-prints.html?m=1

Is it legal to make your house bulletproof or dig a ditch around your house? I heard you're not allowed to place traps on your own land.

>>63911204
I own one, don’t buy it. Not even fun to shoot. Only feeds and cycles on very specific ammo, and if you have hands larger than an infant’s the slide will bite the fuck out of the webbing of your thumb. The last round hold open is in the magazine too, so it’s really easily to accidentally close the slide on hand

>>63924619
I feel like it definitely wouldn't be illegal to make your house bulletproof. Would probably have the thermal dynamics of a brick house though and be miserable all year round.

>>63924619
Traps are illegal because it’s unmonitored lethal force. If a kid fucking around trespassing got seriously hurt from a trap you made, you would be held liable. It all comes from one case where a guy set up a shotgun and string in an abandoned house he owned. They found that lethal force can and should only be used to protect human life. Basically, you’d have to remove your traps every time you left your house, and prove that the person caught in your trap was intending to kill you and you knew it. Not worth the headache, just get an AR.

Bulletproof walls and ditches around your house are okay as long as it follows building codes

>>63924650 (me)
>>63924619
Also, read Katko v Britney.

“…stated under the law their use was prohibited except to prevent the commission of felonies of violence and where human life is in danger. The instruction included a statement breaking and entering is not a felony of violence.

Instruction 5 stated: “You are hereby instructed that one may use reasonable force in the protection of his property, but such right is subject to the qualification that one may not use such means of force as will take human life or inflict great bodily injury. Such is the rule even though the injured party is a trespasser and is in violation of the law himself.”

Instruction 6 stated: “An owner of premises is prohibited from willfully or intentionally injuring a trespasser by means of force that either takes life or inflicts great bodily injury; and therefore a person owning a premise is prohibited from setting out ‘spring guns’ and like dangerous devices which will likely take life or inflict great bodily injury, for the purpose of harming trespassers. The fact that the trespasser may be acting in violation of the law does not change the rule. The only time when such conduct of setting a ‘spring gun’ or a like dangerous device is justified would be when the trespasser was committing a felony of violence or a felony punishable by death, or where the trespasser was endangering human life by his act.”

>>63924650
To add to this, no one is stopping you from having... interesting plant choices at the property lines. Spanish bayonets, roses, honeysuckle, etc

That being said, aside from the plant idea, I wouldn't do it for legal reasons. Not because doing it is illegal, but because Americans have a cucked idea of self-defense, and showing that you care at all about or made any sort of planning for it in any way WILL be used against you in court.

Same reason why the most important accessory you can get for a self-defense gun is wood furniture.

>>63924667
nobody is stopping you from having....interesting livestock choices either.

>>63918496
>(pic)
You got me haha

Yesterday I made a $500 order from Sportsman's Guide and today they called me on the phone and asked me if I had any questions about my "high dollar order."
Is that normal?

>>63926158
>leaving your phone number

>>63842981 (OP)
Why do cosmetics matter on a tool? Firearms get so little use they're expected to look new. Think about it. It does not make them better at punching paper or people.

I don't worry about finish on my utility shotgun and AR any more. I own them and they are not for display any more than my cutting torches and grinders.

He uses his weapons the same way, like a screwdriver or drill. They do not need to shine to shoot. Consider the freedom of not caring about trivial things.

>>63927103
its not just a tool, its a weapon
it follows the tradition of decorating swords and crossbows etc.
plus a good finish prevents rust so its functional

>>63913408
Where in DE, I used to live at the beach.