LYING ABOUT MEDICAL HISTORY: GOOD (YMMV)
LYING ABOUT CRIMINAL HISTORY: BAD

>Resources:
>Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
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>Free ASVAB Practice Tests
www.asvabpracticetests.com/

>Fort Jackson Army Basic Training Guide (Nov. 2020)
pastebin.com/yg972vRE (Short version)
pastebin.com/53tsDj90 (40 page version)

>Special Forces Fitness Guide
SWCS SFAS guide
https://www.goarmysof.army.mil/Portals/100/Documents/USAJFKSWCS%20SF%20Prep%20Manual.pdf?ver=b5Y4cCheXzm4z44sO0JVtg%3D%3D
Stew Smith Fitness
https://www.stewsmith.com/linkpages/sfart.htm#:~:text=PT%3A%20Every%20other%20day.,of%2040%20to%2050%20reps)

>www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/index.php
For all Army SF info.

>www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS

>bogidope.com/civilian-to-guard-or-reserve/the-ultimate-military-pilot-career-path-part-1/
Airforce Pilot guide - just do AFROTC, political science major, 4.0 with athletics is auto-acceptance

>Should I go Navy Enlisted Nuke?
No, you'll get cancer and a prolapsed asshole. http://i.imgur.com/FZ0Q9q4.png
tl;dr: Two year long school with suicidal furries as your co-workers

>Info on sf86
www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf

>How to get way overqualified physically for BMT/BCT when starting from nothing
pastebin.com/yGzadpNZ

>How can I get more college credits while I'm in without signing up for classes
CLEP/DSST information:
https://www.dantes.mil/Education-Programs/Get-College-Credit-for-What-You-Know/

>What is MHS GENESIS?
www.health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/MHS-Transformation/MHS-GENESIS
calmed.tricare.mil/Getting-Care/MHS-GENESIS-Patient-Portal

>Do you go to Airborne before RASP with an option 40 contract?
No, stop asking.

>>63896695 (OP)
How likely am I to get a good duty station as a 35N with no Option 19?
Should I wait until October when the fiscal year resets to see if I can get an Option 19 contract?

>>63896850
What's a "good duty station?"
Here's what I can tell you: an option 19 does not guarantee that your dream duty station will be available. The Army has slots for specific option 19s based on how much each duty station needs a certain MOS. Even if you wait until October, it might turn out that nothing is available but Polk and Irwin.
Also, if you want to make a career of it, having some FORSCOM or SOCOM experience under your belt will help. If you go INSCOM first, you'll end up a little thin-skinned and whiny compared to your peers who cut their teeth on CTC rotations or deployments for their first 3 years. It's not necessarily bad to go INSCOM or good to go FORSCOM, don't get me wrong, but knowing the difference between some catty office bullshit and shit that genuinely sucks ass goes a long way towards improving your mindset.
Also keep in mind that you can 1) communicate with your branch manager during AIT and set your preferences in IPPS-A, 2) request to PCS at the 2 year mark at a duty station, and 3) drop packets for shit once you meet the TIS/TIG/rank requirements. If you don't get the duty station you want, don't let that stop you from getting what you want out of the Army.

Bumpin

Any advice for a morbidly obese autist who wants to join the navy seals?

Reminder to go infantry

>>63898381
>>63898721
Nobody cares about your dead thread lol

bros, how much combat training do POGs get in RASP? What about in Regiment itself? What about in Ranger School?

>>63898721
Why ? As a guy who will never join any governmental armed forces, that seems fucking retarded. Best way to get ieded or droned.

>>63898768
Can't tell you anything about regiment or rasp. But I ranger school you'll get the same training as anyone else regardless of your MOS. The tactical stuff won't be valuable if you're not an infantryman (it barely is if you are), but you'll get instant credibility on your shoulder and you'll know how to deal with people who are retarded due to hunger and sleep deprivation.

>>63898495
Do a goggins

>>63898789
we're gonna need meatwaves in Iran

>>63898789
Because if you're American you're not at risk of drones or IEDs. So if you're going to join the military you might as well join the branch that every other branch supports.

>>63898977
Peak retard

If you enlist you will get a waifu like this

What's AIT like? Is it like college or BCT 2.0? Going to Goodfellow if that matters

Former Corpsman here, 2011-2016. Let me know what you want to know

>>63898721

>join the team with no opportunities outside of the military

Literally the worst decision

>>63896850

Brother, the military will send you wherever they need you. Keep an open mind

>>63900772
Kinda in between. Stay out of trouble and it's closer to the former, act like a retard and it's closer to the latter.

>>63900779
How many drunk fucks did you IV?

>>63898495
Enlist as their boat. Fatfucks have great buoyancy.

>>63897464
So what I will tell you is that there's not really an applicable MOS (enlisted, warrant, or officer) for this, but that the Army, Navy, and Air Force research labs care about that kind of thing a lot and have funded research in that direction in the past. I probably wouldn't join the military if I had an advanced degree in a related field but would instead seek positions at national labs or IC agencies.

>>63901165
Oh and to answer your original question: there is much more interest in nuclear research than the narrower AMO field, from the resources I consulted, but AMO stuff seems to have spicier applications in some areas. With nuclear you can do anything from working at a DoE research lab to working at a nuclear weapons service depot to working on miniature reactors, while AMO is mostly a service research lab kind of thing.

how is the iran shit already over
what the fuck man, i thought this was the prime time but trump actually brought fucking peace to the middle east with a bomb, what the hell
it doesnt make sense

>>63901183
nothing
EVER
happens

should i join the army

medfag checking in again

hpsp is a pretty good deal

feel free to ask questions about medicine/dental/veterinarian in the military

>>63901183

>>63896695 (OP)
Headed off to USCG bootcamp at the end of September. Any recommendations for what to put on my dream sheet? Any one with experience as a Boatswain Mate? I can pass the physical test... barely. Not fat, just weak in my core and lungs.

>>63901279
>I can pass the physical test... barely. Not fat, just weak in my core and lungs.
You better be working out every day until
you ship, fat fuck.

>>63900779
Does that mean you wore Marine uniforms? How many different types of uniforms did you have?
Why is that one dude in the picture wearing desert MARPAT?

Anyone have tips on getting disability for PTSD? I've filled out my intent to file(I'm already out) but never went to behavioral health when I was in because I was afraid I'd lose my clearance

>>63898977
oh yeah a totally
what a retarded statement

>>63902331
ESL-post. Sign up for the infantry. What's the worst that could happen?
>>63902330
Have you considered not being a fucking crybaby?

Any 91E here? Im a machine operator and 91E seems like a good way to become a Machinist/welder. Do you get your NIMS certs? What's the day to day life? 6:30 is PT and 9-5 is work?
If 91E is dog shit what's a good MOS that has enough free time to workout for RASP

>>63903186
>Have you considered not being a fucking crybaby?
No I want money. You will pay me taxpayer

>>63898721
I'm going natguard infantry. Full tuition assistance here, thinking active duty after a degree

So how do you guys cope with the fact that America's domestic enemies are far more dangerous than America's foreign enemies yet the military is barely being used against our domestic enemies? Serious question, not that spic who shits up every thread

>>63903527
>So how do you guys cope
Could you have started your post with a more onions-filled, low testosterone defeatist line? Probably not but you should try

>enlisting to die for israel
Zogbots are dumb as fuck, kek. This time, you niggers won't even receive a hero's welcome. Even Americans are starting to openly hate you! Literal golems

>>63903527
Not only would the "domestic enemies" cause a revolution if attacked, seeing as how it's about 50% of the population at this point if not more, but even if there was no organized resistance, attacking one's own civilians WILL cause Zionist global empire to crumble. You can't send Israel aid while your own civilians are hunting down glowies.

>>63903742
I'm not I got a 40 on the asvab

>>63903701
They aren't sending their best

>>63903753
Kek soldier, you're one rockbrained motherfucker

>>63900779
How frisky did you get with the credit card swipe?

>>63903819
Nigga you wanna swipe the ID and CaC not the credit card you absolute dumbass

>>63903832
A cac guy, huh? You really like to go for it all.

>>63903701
It's a serious question, as other anon said it's almost 50% of the country now. I'm shipping out in two months so I'm going to be in the same boat
>>63903751
Do you even think it's possible to restore American dominance within America? Not centuries long, within a short enough time scale to also defend against China

>>63900783
Life blows outside of the military. Material comfort is all this gay world can provide, and that's only in exchange for waging your entire life. No opportunity for a normal life; might as well join the infantry.

>>63904877
Life outside the military is what you make of it

>>63905265
What did you make of yours?

>>63905265
It is. I've done a lot of cool stuff, but I have no progeny, and even those who unlike me who wageslaved are in the same exact position, simply with more *things* in their possession. I'm not exactly motivated to slave my life away for chink trinkets.

Yall is outside

>>63904877
You're a gargantuan faggot

New Navy reg dropped. Does this mean I can bang the N1s now?

Do you not get to use pugil sticks in the Air Force or Navy?

>>63905735
Rather than 250 gorillion techniques focus on properly doing 5-10 if you want something more than a cheap party trick to use on drunks leaving the bars at midnight

>>63906124
If anything this is vague enough to fuck you over if any woman feels like going through the trouble of reporting you

>>63906310
PT status on this chonker?

>>63906607
Natural consequences of daily intake of a full english

>>63906290
>>63906297
>>63906306
>>63906310
humiliation ritual

Ausfags, need input:
Infantry or Combat Engineer?
I'm going reserves

>>63906858
How so? Politicians doing photo ops with military is normal

>>63907914
Don't pretend you don't know
Don't do this weak moralising-veiled-as-ignorance "I don't even see race" bs

>>63900847

A lot, though we would hide it behind a diagnosis of dehydration

>>63901590

I had Marine greens and tans, as well as the Navy blue camo and green camo. At one point I was issued the DCUs before supply could get me the right uniform haha

>>63903819

Quite frisky, same with core temp checks

>>63906607

Heavy infantry unit

>>63907995
So the issue is that its a black politician, and therefore humiliating to have a black politician doing the same thing other politicians do?

>>63908046
Nothing like a little love poke to show you care

>>63906124
>jealous of navy chiefs: the regulation

>>63908173
A black politician in the UK is humiliating by itself

>>63908173
Yes, it is

>>63905735
>trusting a martial art made by Jews
Makes sense for a zogbot enlistment poster. How come kravmaga 'experts' never win contests?

>>63904877
Life as a zogbot is way worse. Fucking up at work is the equivalent of legal problems, and you get to know you're working for Zion as a golem.

>>63903843
Rome didn't collapse overnight, and neither will JewSA. However, American global dominance fades every day. There's too many reasons to list them all.
>global empire for sole purpose of serving Jews in a time when even normies are waking up to Jewish tricks
>trying to maintain power balance created after ww2, which was the last true war USA won, and it was 100 years ago
>still richest country with best gadgets, but average standard of living declines every year, and all the money and power gets used to fund Israel and enrich the top 1%
>all the global dominance is used just to destroy white goy males
>USA "fights" exclusively via proxy at this point, by tricking others into fighting
>internal conflicts (like Jan 6) seemingly about to boil out of the pot
>even zogbots are getting less loyal, look at how many terrorists and mass murderers are zogbots
>censorship undermines freedom, and lawmakers rape the Constitution
>glowies rape it even harder
>no uniting culture
>meanwhile, China can already outcompete USA on an even playing field in terms of manufacturing
>dollar devalues faster and faster
>capitalist system requires infinite growth as Marx said, but infinite growth cannot continue forever
>foreign policy of USA is unironically fuck everyone but Israel because the only purpose of USA is to serve Israel
>every country on Earth understands this, amid recent American chimpouts (bombing shithole nuclear facilities)
>USA enemies have been and will continue to slowly build nukes, eroding the post ww2 balance of power further
USA is resorting to fascism at this point. The lunatic janny is going to delete this post, but it doesn't matter. The empire fades slowly.

>>63909000
The USA isn't fascist. If it was Fascist ZOG wouldn't exist

>>63909023
The USA is becoming way more fascist. You're erring by thinking fascism is necessarily antisemitic, when that's not true, with a good example being modern Israel. Fascism is defined more by extreme authoritarianism. I've witnessed what the PATRIOT act and later COVID did to USA. I've seen America absolutely quash all internal opposition, even when it came from honorable citizens. Stop thinking fascism is antisemitic in nature. Fascist USA no longer cares about free discourse. The state censorship machine permeates to all social media, even here. Even on 4chan, once considered the last bastion of free speech, jannies have been proven (in the recent hack) to own the goal of banning wrongthinkers. This is how fascism actually works irl, especially when combined with the elevating levels of modern nationalism. All the fascist elements are there. Even if you disagree and say it's not real fascism, we can at least agree that USA has never been this authoritarian.

>t. Got high 90's on ASVAB

Hey, before enlisting, consider all the homeless vets you drive by. They were once like you. And USA would rather give free hotels to migrants. You're worth less than a migrant to the government.

>>63907181
Cuckstraya's military seems like a good mix of British culture of soldierly combined with American gung-ho. Very interesting. I would expect the Aussies to have a very good Navy.

>>63909161
>consider all the homeless vets
Better idea, ignore them. Its funny that they are invisible.

>>63909040
>Even if you disagree and say it's not real fascism, we can at least agree that USA has never been this authoritarian.
Dont care, society owes me a 18 year old virgin wife and they didnt give it to me. I dont care, as long as my welfare keeps coming in i dont care

>>63909040
I agree with everything you say. However, you must consider that the US is different than every country in terms of where you are. California is left wing fascism that openly heads towards Soviet style authoritarianism. Vermont is British style where anything challenging the narrative will whisk you to jail over the smallest thing. On the flip side, Texas and Idaho for example, follow more nationalist fascism like israel where extreme jingoistic mentality will get you ostracized and thrown to the wolves for not "being like them". You'll see more bans of material good there, unlike left wing authoritarianism where words are their fear. It's foolish to think that the US is not divided. At this point, it needs to Balkanize to maintain cohesion. You can't have a state like leftarded Massachusetts in the same country as red Texas. It doesn't work.

>>63909040
>t. Got high 90's on ASVAB
Nobody cares what you got on your high school level test. Enlistedfag

>>63909161
Homeless vets prove howe low IQ and worthless they are. 4 years minimum of having their hands held by Uncle Sam, get out and allow themselves to suffer on the streets
>muh ptsd
Fucking pussies can't even get the help they need. Like feral animals, they need to be controlled

>>63909315
Insightful stats on veteran failure rates
>Policies to Support Veterans’ Needs at the State and Local Level
https://youtu.be/28rlivAKfyw

Not only a lost cause but a massive waste of funds.

>>63909265
>Dont care, society owes me a 18 year old virgin wife and they didnt give it to me
There's a lot wrong with that logic. Only desirable chads get to reproduce. If you can't fit the bill, it's really your fault. I'm a complete loser and even I've had sex numerous times.

>>63909315
>>63909363
>my fellow service members should be treated like animals
These are the people you're going to fight alongside with. Well, you're not actually ever gonna fight, but if you did, these niggers would sell you out every time. This is the reality of armed forces: your greatest enemy is your own fellow soldier. Disgraceful. Who would join an Army that doesn't have your back? You could become homeless, and your fellow veterans would defend why you should suffer and why migrants should take all your gibs. Great example of why the empire is dying.

The best veterans are the ones that become cops and shoot other veterans.

>>63909599
First of all, you could just become a cop to begin with, and spare all the zogbot bullshit. Second of all, the armed forces intentionally mind break their own zogbots as a type of 'filter'. You could cope by saying that many zogbots are already retards before they enlist. This can be evidenced by the ASVAB scores, where even a cretin like me can get a ridiculously high score. So yeah, if you're a dumb fuck, and you're agreeable to golem brainwashing, then by all means enlist. Just don't say I didn't warn you when your fellow veterans shoot you for being homeless.

>AAAAAIIIIEEEE the ZOG will totally BRAINWASH you and make you HOMELESS PANIC PANIC PANIC
Bruh

>>63909627
post wrist

>>63909733
>pretending like the homeless vets you pass every day in your car are invisible
Excellent coping skills

>>63909744
>random non sequitur shit

>>63909742
I'm sorry, I don't take orders from 4chan incels

>>63909810
thought so

>>63909796
How is this nonsequitir, when you can go outside and see it happen?
>enlist in US armed forces
>become homeless veteran

>>63909812
If you thought I don't take orders from 4chan incels, how come you gave me an order? Fucking retard, your thoughts don't even matter. Besides, "post X" is always a cope because even if you post something good, you'll never win. I come from /o/, and whenever an incel says "post car", you're always better off not doing so, even if you have the best car on the thread. The reason is because by following some random incel's demand, you are giving them power over you. At that point, you're just trying to get approval from that incel, but the incel already has his mind made up about you. Therefore, the only proper way to reply to a post that demands " post X" is to remind the incel that xe has no power over you, and is unable to command you to do anything.

>>63909832
not reading your meltdown but i accept your apology

>>63909834
>i can't read
Bet you still got top 50% on ASVAB. The only place where you're not retarded by comparison is the military

>>63909860
i forgive you

Btw none of my posts itt were intended to scare you. If my goal was to scare you, I'd tell you all your favorite zogbot bedtime stories, like the one where you lose your legs in war, so you drive your mobility scooter home and find your wife sucking Jody's cock. Then she divorce rapes you and takes all your zogbux because let's face it, no woman wants to be stuck taking care of a paraplegic her whole life. She's the real victim here.

>>63909813
This is what I mean. You're acting like when you join, da goberment zaps you with the magic retard beam, and when you get out, you're forced to take all the money out of your account and set it on fire. All to push the asinine point that da big scary ZOG will guarantee you become homeless and you get no say in the matter.
Tards gonna tard, in uniform or out of it. This is only a shocking secret to other tards, like you.

>>63909161
Where do you live? I haven't seen a homeless vet in years, and even then I can only assume they are lying for sympathy

>>63909894
Not what I'm saying. ZOG can turn you into a nice comfortable welfare queen if you get that disability. But that still leaves the question of all the homeless vets.

>all the homeless vets are retarded animals
First of all, they're supposed to be your comrades. Second, if they're that bad, how come they got in? Seems like ZOG takes just about anyone.

>big scary ZOG
I love how you use this sarcastically, like you're trying to say 'friendly neighborhood ZOG'. No one's buying it.

>no solution to the issue
Ok but illegal migrants get hotels. Clearly that's also unsustainable, because there aren't enough hotels in the country to host them all

>>63909899
>where do i live
NYC, but I see homeless vets all around the East Coast

>you haven't seen one in years
You don't go outside

SERIOUS QUESTION
Does the Army require the covid vaccine?
I keep reading they don't require it but am I going to show up to boot camp and get shot with mystery juice?
Otherwise I already have all the other required vaccines

>>63909938
Of course you get shot with mystery juice during bootcamp. This happens regardless of whether you already got your required vaccines.

>>63909363
>Epstein Family Veterans Policy Research Institute

>Holy shit guys war is dangerous!!! You could die in a COMBAT ZONE!! DUDE WHAT IF YOU JOIN THE ARMY AND ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO ARMY SHIT!? ARE YOU SCARED YET????
Does anyone actually fall for this? Who's telling you the fucking MILITARY is a cush 9-5 adult daycare job?

>>63909938
No, it was taken out of the list in 2023 and they backtracked so hard on it thy are still asking separated soldiers to come back

>>63910182
>Who's telling you the fucking MILITARY is a cush 9-5 adult daycare job?
Technically, it is. That's why there are so many women in the military working in offices.

>ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO ARMY SHIT
Yes, I'm talking about actual Army shit. Army shit like getting crippled in war, only to find out your wife's been fucking Jody. That's a classic timeless true story! It doesn't get more "Army shit" than that

>>63910210
>Schrodinger's army: simultaneously adult daycare/welfare and ZOMFG U'LL DIE AND CRIPPLE AND KEKED AND PTSD

>that one uscg ocs anon still procrastinating learning how to swim

>want to join military so bad so join coast guard
>first duty station in alaska on cutter
>can't wait to get out in 3 years >:(

>>63910235
Retard zogbot

>peacetime army is different from wartime army
Well duh, but I'm here to tell you it's ass either way. Also, with current world affairs, the whole 'losing your limbs in a drone strike' really does seem like an approaching inevitable reality.

>I'm just trying to scare dumb zogbots
I'm not the one who makes your wife get rammed by Bubba 30 minutes after you go overseas

>>63910252
if nonrate, why not pick an a short school to escape?
if you did boot to a, why is your oconus afloat tour > 24mo? that is abnormal

Also, buy truck and explore deep national forest during charlie periods ?

>>63910252
Alaska natives are the most depressed demographic in the US, don't forget you D3 supplements

>>63910259
So which is it? Peacetime army? Guaranteed maiming? Adult welfare?

How to defeat a proud zogbot with one sentence:

>could you please tell me about all the wars you and your fellow zogbots have won?
Watch them try to cope by acting like bombing goat herders in the sandpit counts as winning a war.

>>63910260
Kino pic

>>63910260
24 oconus is normal when you are assigned to operational units i'm leaving this spot in one year and going hopefully shoreside next year. i already went to a school i was vested. i live on an island not really much to explore out here once you drive 75 miles of road and jeep trails

>>63910285
I c
Good luck and keep thinking about the future.

>>63910276
Nigger zogbot, there are unironic Army cadences about Jody.

>peacetime army?
Well of course, we have women in command everywhere, and there hasn't been a real war in a long time. Women don't wanna go into a wartime army. Thus, judging by the sheer presence of women, it's clearly a peacetime Army.

>guaranteed maiming
First of all, your logic fails because I never said guaranteed. If you're female, all you have to do is get pregnant and dodge deployment. If you're male, there are other ways to dodge. Guaranteed deployment dodge. What I was trying to say is that should the worst happen, you'll be left to rot like the dog that you are. No one wants a war crippled zogbot, not even the country xe once served. Not his wife, probably not even his family. The only thing a crippled zogbot is good for is gibs.

>but adult welfare
The goal for a lot of people is to "make the most out of the Army" by maximizing gibs while minimizing actual service. That's the name of the game, quit acting like you don't get this. I never said you will get crippled, retard. I just told you one of your favorite zogbot bedtime stories.

>>63910295
seems like thats just about all i do now lol but thank you

>>63910302
>blah blah blah
>should the worst happen
Should the worst happen we'll watch major population centers become glass pits without warning, your hypotheticals are redundant and defensive. Did you bring up jodee because you feel emasculated by soldiers?

>>63910311
>the worst is nuclear apocalypse
No it isn't, retard zogbot. In nuclear apocalypse, the problems and pain of the modern world get burned away. The suffering is minimized, because it's over relatively fast. But none of that matters, because the bedtime story I told wasn't macro in scale. Macro scale is harder to talk about, so I was trying to focus on the micro scale. That is, you and yourself only. When I said "should the worst happen", i meant to you as an individual. Clearly, you already know this, and are playing dumb. Your bad-faith zogbot arguments aside, the meaning of " should the worst happen", in this case, means you get crippled instead of killed, and then the rest of your life falls apart because no one wants a crippled zogbot. And before you try telling me how much you care for all the crippled zogbots, I'll remind you that even I probably have more empathy for them, despite the fact that I openly hate ZOG and Israel and seriously enthusiastic zogbots.

>painting me as a misogynist
Show me a woman who can beat me up, and I'll follow her. Their entire point is "we women are equal and just as good as men", but every time this gets proven wrong in war. Remember how Israel prioritized the female hostages because they're women? Women have no place fighting real wars, that's how it's always been. They're weaker and more cowardly. It will be fun watching your mental gymnastics as you cope with that.

I'm graduating from university next year and I am thinking about joining as an officer, either the Marines or Air Force. I know these two branches are very different culturally but they both appeal to me. On one hand the Marines are badass trained killers with cool uniforms but at the same time the Air Force treats you better, uses more brains and isn't as physically exhausting. Like if the pay is the same for the ranks in all branches, I don't see why I should put myself through all that trouble of being a Marine. I don't want to be boots on the ground getting killed by a drone either.

Not sure if I'd want to go active or reserve/NG at this time, mainly because my parents are getting older. But I've also been living in the same hometown (still with my parents) for almost 23 years now. The guys I know who enlisted after high school seem to be well-traveled with way more life experience than me.

Do I start talking to a recruiter now? I don't know for certain, but I have heard officer applications take a while. Can it only be started after receiving my degree?

All input is welcome and appreciated.

>>63910780
Why didnt you ROTC
What kinds of things do you want to do in the military
Why not uscg

>>63910780
>should i join the military during a time of escalating global conflicts
Honest advice, wait until orange monkey is out of office. Travelling the world is cool, until you get sent to some dune ass shithole. Going to Japan or Belgium might be cool, but I don't think going to Iran is. Also, the military kinda takes the fun out of everything. Buddy of mine was stationed in the Rockies. He got a whitewater rafting certification, and he was doing Army whitewater rafting up in the mountains. This isn't civilian shit, this is all zog shit. So, my buddy is out doing his thing, everyone knows what he's doing, but there's a recall formation at his base. He's far away in the mountains somewhere, being a rafting instructor, so he misses the calls. Hard to blame him, considering how you can't really use your phone while whitewater rafting, even if you could somehow get signal out there, which you won't. Anyway, his leadership flips out, demotes him, and almost sends him to military prison for this. He did nothing wrong, he just missed a phone call from his CO and a random ass recall formation. Think about that before you associate the military with any type of "fun". My buddy tried to have fun, and he did it the official Army way, violating no rules and hurting absolutely no one. All he wanted to do was teach soldiers how to whitewater raft on the weekends.

>joining as an officer
Jsyk, lieutenants are considered more useless than privates, at least when it comes to anything to do with combat or war.

USCG is the only branch I'd ever join again. They're the least cucked and retarded, and they get the coolest action. Also I think they help Israel the least

>>63910332
I'm not reading all that, you're making up scenarios in your head to get mad at.

>>63910862

>>63910862
>rafting story
There is 100% more to this than your buddy is telling. People don't get UCMJ'd for missing phone calls for reasonable causes, especially not while (supposedly) at an Army-run school or training event.
>LTs
This is a giant meme perpetuated by the type of E-4 Mafia/LCpl Underground member who believes himself to be the sole actual hard worker in the platoon yet who does nothing but hang out in the smoke pit and eat PX Tornados. Your LT performs a variety of functions to accomplish the mission, even if those functions are more opaque than directly shooting the enemy like Private Snuffy.

>>63910909
>I can't read
I know, anon. Kinda sad, really. You keep serving Israel if it makes you happy. To each his own. Some 'people' are meant to be golems.

>>63910939
>there's more to the story
I didn't realize you were there. People do get UCMJ'd for absolutely no reason, which is probably the best argument for why you shouldn't enlist. Normally, if you fuck up at work, you get fired, but in the military you'll be transformed into what is essentially a felon, forced to do manual labour for half of an E-1's pay for 3 months. And once again, this does happen to people who don't deserve it, because there is no actual Constitutional due process in military court.

>butterbars are useful, they do sooo much
About what I'd expect from a ktard. When I was deployed, we would send the butterbars in first to clear a room, because they were worthless cannon fodder. One E1 private is worth more than 2 butterbars. Even the LtCol knew this.

>>63910931
Kek, skateboarding ticket. Even in Nazi Germany they probably wouldn't be this ridiculous. Imagine dying for a country that treats you like a criminal for riding a skateboard.

>>63909040
Yeah brah I got a 95 on the ASVAB and you're erring by thinking any form of authoritarianism is Fascism. Closest thing we had to a Fascist government in America was the Progressive movement from the 1890s-1930s that literally inspired Nazi Germany

>>63911002
>it's not real fascism
I understand that argument, but if we're going to debate the definition of fascism, I would make the argument that modern USA is a globohomo fascist government. There's still a unified national race and culture, where the 'race' is mutts and the culture is globohomo. I understand if you don't want to call it fascism, but I don't mind that title, especially if it's underpinned by the extreme authoritarianism of today.

>>63911085
It's authoritarianism, it's just not Fascism. Why pretend it's something it's not? It's insulting to Fascists, and they lost WW2. Racism was a core tenet of Fascism before Mussolini even took power, it's not just a German thing. Muttdom cannot and will never be Fascistic because it is BioLeninist in nature. Besides, authoritarianism has a place in American history as well, Federalism came to exist for good reasons. Washington considered Jefferson a traitor to his country and never spoke to him again after he fired him. Hamilton tried couping the country to become dictator with the New Army but was too autistic about military uniforms. Lincoln, and I'm a Southron, did preserve the Union and managed to keep both the British and French out of America. FDR conquered the world. America has a long line of authoritarianism, with varying degrees as to what branch is spearheading it and how invasive it gets into each peoples lives.

>>63910971
>Kek, skateboarding ticket.
A skateboarding ticket won't stop you from getting a clearance. Lying about it certainly could.

>>63911134
I've never heard the term BioLeninism, but I do consider that Muttdom is racism against white males. By virtue of this racism, the racist requirement of fascism is fulfilled. But I won't press the point. I guess I concede that it's not technically fascism in a purist definition, but who uses the purist definition? In the modern world, fascism and authoritarianism are almost the same thing. The term "fascist" itself is pretty meaningless at this point. When I accuse USA of being fascist, I may as well be saying "authoritarian", because to me there's no real difference. We could argue about definitions all day, but you brought up something even more important: USA has had authoritarian leadership before. So what's different now? I'll tell you what's different now, and it's the internet. Authoritarianism is much more easily enforced and much harder to resist in an age where merely hiding any action from the Beast is nearly impossible. This technocracy is what I'm talking about, and I personally don't care whether you call it fascist, communist, authoritarian, etc. If you speak badly about Israel, you get banned from all major platforms. How is that not fascism?

>>63910971
Cool LARP, bro.

>>63911270
Yeah ok whatever. Hey, you know what else happened to someone I know? She forgot to clean her M16, and because US zogbots get issued inferior weapons, her 16 jammed. She got captured and raped for not performing the daily humilation ritual of cleaning that piece of trash rifle.

>was she hot
Yes

>>63911283

>>63911387
baste and borntokillpilled

>>63911283
>>63910971
Holy larperation. Is this a false flag or something?

>>63911404
You're a gay nigger

I suppose I shouldn't try to dissuade too much. You can do what you want, it's your life. Serving ZOG does pay in many ways. Just don't expect it to be fun and daisies, cuz at the end of the day it sucks such extreme cock that you always regret it at some point. I doubt it's even possible to make it through anymore without shouting "praise Israel hail Zion"

Ok I believe i got my messge across, I'll leave now. If I were you, and I'm a lot smarter, I'd wait till the next president. This president is better if you just claim milwelfare on. Keep in mind, if you enlist now, you'll see a Pres change in 2 years, and it will be a Democrat.

>waste entire Saturday shitposting on 4chan
>embarrass yourself in front of a bunch of strangers on the internet
>rant about things nobody cares about
>"I made my point!"
Type shit fr

>>63911494
I was just trying to warn people not to die for Israel. If that is a sin, may the Lord strike me down this instant.

>>63909315
>hands held
It's more like held by the sack

4 years active duty i literally never heard anyone mention israel

I do not think these spambots realize how transparent and out of touch these attempts are.

>>63911588
More likely to happen next presidency, retard.

>>63911605
>4 years active duty i literally never heard anyone mention israel
How? I've heard it mentioned tons in the past month. It's also very evident most people don't care of Israel in the military but they know they can't be open about it.

>>63911605
You've never worked with Israelis?

>>63911588
It's ok anony, I'm hispanic so I have a vested interest in propping up and defending MY country :^)

Nuclear apoc isn't worst case scenario. I'd say worst case is some kinda crazy bioweapon that kills you slowly and makes a bunch of worms come out of you or something.

>>63911637
It's your military, but Greater Israel aka USA is the cuerpo, whilst Israel is the cabeza. Don't think you'll just have access to Israel, if you think that's your country. Otherwise yes, the USA is already pretty much yours.

>>63911605
lol I didn't think about how little I talk about Israel/the Jews irl until you mentioned it. I can only think of 5 times in my 4 years.

>Dorm neighbor shows me the SodaStream she just bought
>"Cool man, what ar- the fuck? Made in Israel?" (I didn't know anything gets manufactured there)
>"I know, gross, but it works so well" or something like that

>Night shift conversation that drifts to von Neumann and then drifts to Jewish IQ levels

>Show friend that video of the Black Hebrew Israelites making fun of the Holocaust until that Jewish guy starts crying
>She immediately says "Oh god, not those guys"

>Coworker asks me out of nowhere if I hate Jews
>"w-what"
>She tells me she's part Jewish
>"Oh, uhh... nnnoooooooooooooo... :)"

>Dude I'm pulling night shift with is talking about conspiracy theories and aliens and shit
>Gets to the topic of something like "Isn't it crazy how they say Jews run the world?"
>I can't hold back from saying "I mean they kinda do though. Just look at all the big names in Hollywood and Wall Street."
>Awkward silence
>Briefly worry I may have just revealed my power level
>"Oh yeah, that's a good point"
>oh thank god

Good times

The golem must not mention its master's name or talk about its master

>"I'll leave now" at 2am
>kept posting until 5am

>>63911802
>Dorm neighbor
>She
Are you a woman?
TEXAS
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Can someone tell me what the rules for engaging in this thread are? It seems this is the only moderated thread on /k/ and has special rules for what qualifies as rule-breaking "trolling". Genuine plea for help, thanks.

>>63912662
Best is to not engage and to use the thread to get a sense of how unorganized and chaotic the actual military is. If this is how they run a thread, imagine how they'd run your life?

>>63912662
I see no evidence of moderation. What are you talking about?

>>63912684
>the military runs /meg/ trust me bro
Lmao

>>63912806
There's active duty military on the 4chan staff lol. Our tax dollars hard at work.

>>63912845
Name them

>>63912684
>bring chaos to a thread on 4chan
>blame the US military
What's the objective here?

>>63912903
In his head: fighting a holy war against the evil forces of le ZOG.
In reality: mildly annoy about a dozen strangers.

>>63912926
>about a dozen strangers.
They're all me. The schizo? Also me on VPN and xanax. The super secret high speed eglin mods? Also me on VPN.

Don't join the military.

>>63914067
or what?

>>63909893
>>63910210
>>63910276
>Jody
>Bubba
It's very generous of you to assume most of us signing up to the military have wives or even GFs.

>>63914188
Ignore him. He's just some non-serve that wants to hang with the vets because he thinks they're cool, so he tries to use the lingo to blend in without understanding the culture or context.

>>63912662
>>63912845
>>63912806
K jannies are glowies, the hack confirmed it

>>63914211
>non-serve
You sound retarded posting this. It's the equivalent insult to "busrider" on /o/

>hang out with vets to be cool
If i wanted to be cool, I wouldn't hang out with you retards. Get that ego under control you zogbot, barely anyone still thinks you're cool. You exist to be cucked by Jody, and there's nothing you can even do.

>>63914236
You sound upset

>>63914251
You sound like you're licking Israel's curly-haired Jewish balls
>if i ignore Israel, I won't die for their interests
>if I ignore Israel, I am not their vassal

Wanna go over to /mlp/ to tell them how much you hate bronies too?

>>63914236
The hack literally proved there were no glowie mods and that most of the site traffic was American. It's literally all butthurt incels like you posting fanfic to push your sad narrative because you failed in the real world. You can post all the bullshit "screenshots" you want but the truth came out and the only ones exposed were actual losers like (you)

>>63914211
No, it's funnier to bring reality in response.
I'm a khhv.
>inb4 this is a bad thing
I'm young.
>>63914236
pic rel dude.
>Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
janitors do it for free. maybe they are just really passionate about the board and wanted deeper participation so they became jannies.
military dudes are used to giving up a lot of privacy so for them, joining some janny discord and even getting doxxed is nothing.
what's gonna happen? burning bags of shit showing up on their doorstep? literally nothing ever happens.
in the heirarchy of bad actors janitors still rank below mods on here.
>inb4 i'm secretly a janny and i'm crying for my life please dont kill me
nah, i just hate spergs.

>>63914276
>admitting to being an absolute scourge
Good enough for me, no further questions

>>63909363
Whats with these fags and their love of opiods?

>>63914285
No really, why are you afraid of expressing yourself over on /mlp/? You seem to like coming to places full of people you hate to tell them how much you hate them. Do you not have disdain for bronies?

>>63914283
>what's gonna happen?
The tweaker that is torquing himself up here might just waste all weekend ranting about zogbots is what's gonna happen. Bet he is too afraid to even drive by a recruiting center let alone walk in and talk shit in the face of a real recruiter

>>63914299
I only drop in this thread on occasion and it's kind of sad seeing how obsessed this dude is. bro needs to kick back and chill. there are just some things out of your agency. you can't stop everyone from doing and talking about things you don't want them to do.

Best branch for someone with an IQ below 90?

>>63914314
Young men with a lot of time to waste have no idea that their time is like a pile of gold coins that slowly deplete as they age. Invested well, they can have something to show, but not invested at all leaves them empty handed. I hope this kid finds something better to do with his weekends that doesn't get him so upset. I sure wouldn't want my time out of work (or his case probably school) to be more stressful than the work week.

>>63914331
amen to that
I used to get into heated arguments on here. It's a waste of time.

>>63912860
Colonel Nathan McCormick

>>63914339
Remember, it's only an argument if you give a shit about what you say.

>>63912860
Colonel Sanders

>>63914347
>>63914369
Got me craving some parmesan herb chicken now

>>63914327
Mareen

>>63910780
>I'm graduating from university next year and I am thinking about joining as an officer, either the Marines or Air Force.
First input, Air Force OTS is very fucking competitive. Basically every retard out there with a BA in Business Management wants to be an Air Force officer. The first challenge is even getting an Air Force officer recruiter to pick up the fucking phone and talk to a retard like you. They literally do not need you. Not saying don’t go for it, but it’s picky rn. Selection rates are going up, and, by going up, I mean they’re going from like 2% to 12%. Also, the process can literally take fucking years. Even if you get selected, it still might be a whole year before the Air Force actually sends you off to join. Prepare to get a temp job to work while you wait in purgatory.

Marines are far less picky, but know this, you better be in great fucking shape. There’s only one thing the Marines hate more than fat Marines, and that’s fat officers. Marines is a different lifestyle all around. Also, their OCS is more physically intensive from what I understand, and a lot of people (mostly fat fucks) wash out because they get hurt. Be in shape, know how to run.
>I know these two branches are very different culturally but they both appeal to me. On one hand the Marines are badass trained killers with cool uniforms
You’re retarded. Nice job swallowing the propaganda. Those cool dress uniforms? You’ll wear them once a year. Also, most jobs aren’t infantry.
>but at the same time the Air Force treats you better, uses more brains and isn't as physically exhausting.
Job selection matters, but sure.
>Like if the pay is the same for the ranks in all branches, I don't see why I should put myself through all that trouble of being a Marine.
Because the Air Force might not let you in at all.
>I don't want to be boots on the ground getting killed by a drone either.
Retard. Job selection matters. There’s even combat Airmen.

Cont.

>>63910780
>>63914479

>Not sure if I'd want to go active or reserve/NG at this time,
NG/reserves is not a job. Do you want a job or not? There’s full-time reserve spots, but they’re not guaranteed. Do you want a job or not? Also, it’s generally harder to commission into the reserves because you’re competing with officers getting off active duty.
>mainly because my parents are getting older.
Do you even wanna join the military? You can still deploy in the reserves. Your dad might die while you’re in fucking Africa. You’ve gotta make some choices.
>But I've also been living in the same hometown (still with my parents) for almost 23 years now.
Well, do you wanna live near your parents or not, retard?
>The guys I know who enlisted after high school seem to be well-traveled with way more life experience than me.
Hopefully less retarded too.

>Do I start talking to a recruiter now?
You haven’t even picked a branch.
> I don't know for certain, but I have heard officer applications take a while.
Yes.
>Can it only be started after receiving my degree?
No, you can start up to a year early.
>All input is welcome and appreciated.
You’re a queer.

>>63910862
Fake, bullshit story aside
>Honest advice, wait until orange monkey is out of office.
This is the funniest advice I see dumb retard civilians give.
>Bro, you don’t wanna join under Biden/Drumpf, wait until Biden/Drumpf is in office
In a military career, you could serve under up to 5 different presidents. It won’t matter and will hardly change your day to day. Also, changes in the military always take like 2-3 years to implement anyways. You’ll be basically done by the time “le scary changes” take effect, and they’ll just change back right after anyways.

People here were fearmongering
>Oh no, don’t join under Biden
And guess what, I did join under Biden. It was fucking business as usual. Now Trump’s back in office and my contract is almost up anyways. Big whoop.

Also, all Trump has done for the military so far is kick out trannies and change PT standards. Which, the trannies are still being “out processed” or whatever. This will probably go on for like 2 more years. The PT changes haven’t even been realized yet, and it might be a whole nother year before they actually go live. The next president will just change them again anyways.

Literally nothing has changed day to day unless you’re trans or fat. Big whoop.

>>63914519
Have fun in Iran.

>>63914538
2 more weeks?

>>63914331
>I hope this kid finds something better to do with his weekends that doesn't get him so upset. I sure wouldn't want my time out of work (or his case probably school) to be more stressful than the work week.
I don’t know if you’re new to this general, but the resident schizos have identified themselves multiple times in the past. There’s about 2-3 of them, and they’re all grown men. They’ve been posting in /meg/ daily for the last 5-6 years. They have no lives and they’re obsessed to the point of literal insanity.

It’s funny because only like 12 people use this general any given thread, and 2-3 of them (not including their ban evasion) is full-time trolls. Mods are aware of them, and they simply don’t care enough.

One of them is a fat fuck who got kicked out the Army in basic.

Another one is some engineer who somehow got swindled into enlisting as a cook and spent 10 years in the job. He somehow thinks it’s not his fault.

Can’t remember much about schizo #3. Probably the least active poster.

They won’t stop. Ignoring them won’t work. They’ll just keep spamming and talking to themselves. They post at all hours of the day. For some reason we can’t seem to permaban them.

Off topic but are female officers as bad as the enlisted females are?
I’m around a military base and I like their aesthetic and they are more likely to be into guns and other /k/ activities


Any tips or tricks to talk to one?

>>63914621
Female officers are college-educated career-oriented women, so you have to set your baseline there. Have you ever attracted a woman who has a good stable job that required higher education?

Retired/boted US combat arms personnel go to Mexico to train cartel members for the munnies
https://youtu.be/C7tzTaEZiR0?t=327

How much could a former combat arms guy make in such a role?

>>63914666
The organized motorcycle gangs that sell fentanyl in the Northern USA all come from military veteran backgrounds. An overall net negative to the American people that paid for their lifestyle.

>>63914637
>Female officers are college-educated career-oriented women
You mean former sorority sluts who fell assbackwards into success with their 3.1 GPA in Psychology. Be careful navigating the God Complex they’ve developed thanks to the 6 figure salary they receive for doing basic bitch office work typically relegated to secretaries making $35k in the civilian world.

>>63914479
>>63914488
based knower
>t. co-knower

>>63914699
You sound upset

>>63914809
Probably suicidal too, common among the military demographic. Real tragedy.

>>63914637
Let’s just say on paper I should be able to I don’t do much talking to women but we should be aligned in many ways

>>63914699
>He decided to make shit up about a group of people who’s pay is literally a matter of public record, bold strategy let’s see how it pays off

Lel no officer under field grade is getting paid over 100k
Now I know they get a lot of little incentives like extra money for housing and food and kids but even as a grand total no one under O-4 is making more than 100k
But I am open to be proven wrong

>>63914820
My spidey senses are telling me the upset guy here isn't a part of the military demographic. Would love to be proven wrong!

>>63914840
Mine are telling me that he is.

>>63914832
>Lel no officer under field grade is getting paid over 100k
You don’t understand military pay. There’s a calculator on the DoD website. Start there. Maybe look up how taxes works.
>Now I know they get a lot of little incentives like extra money for housing
“Little Incentives” *$3,000 a month untaxed* Uh huh, yeah…
>no one under O-4 is making more than 100k
Why are you talking about O-4 like it’s some impossibly high rank? It’s like the mid-point in most officers career.
>But I am open to be proven wrong
You are wrong.

>>63914951
>0-3
>6 years of service
>O-4 is a mid point in a career
out of my dating age range to be honest
But this is honestly more than I thought they made but it’s still middle class where I live I think the housing allowance here is closer to 4000 talking to some of my military buddies
But no that’s cool I can see how this could go to the head of a late 20-something midwit

>>63914998
>out of my dating age range to be honest
You make O-3 after like 4 years, retard. I just picked 6. The numbers aren’t much different for O-2, which is only 2 years TIS.
>But this is honestly more than I thought they made but it’s still middle class where I live I think the housing allowance here is closer to 4000 talking to some of my military buddies
What is the point of you saying this if you already know pay is adjusted by COL in the local area? What is your point?
>But no that’s cool I can see how this could go to the head of a late 20-something midwit
Female officers are narcissistic basket cases. They can’t help it.

>>63915205
The point is to backpedal.

Can any somewhat-recent 35Ns confirm this?

>>63914951
Wait, so you're telling me that a 27 year old (though really O-3 would be made by 25) could be making more than double the national average of any given state? Why the fuck WOULDN'T I want to commission?

>>63909832
I thought people only ended up on /o/ when they misclicked /k/

>>63915245
No I genuinely thought they got paid less I’m not back peddling I’m admitting I’m wrong
>>63915383
You have to heard people and be blamed for stuff you had no control over and in my dads case he worked like 20-40 hours a week of glorious unpaid overtime depending on the circumstances
And there are lots of easier ways to be set that are nicer than military life, but it can kinda be boring

>>63915383
Plus, you might not make the cut ngl officers like buddy said earlier in the thread are coveted positions

>>63914951
>zip code 93437
Counterpoint:

>>63915424
Can you elaborate on the easier ways to be making more than 150k by 25?

>>63915383
>Wait, so you're telling me that a 27 year old (though really O-3 would be made by 25) could be making more than double the national average of any given state? Why the fuck WOULDN'T I want to commission?
People bitch about military pay because military people are terrible with money, and they’re insulated for how rough things are for the average Joe.

Even enlisted pay is not that bad. Your average civilian normie is scraping by on $50k a year and paying for their healthcare out of pocket. Military members are just retards who can’t budget.

That being said, pick your rate, pick your fate. An O-3 stuck inside a submarine underwater for months at a time is making (more or less) the same as a finance O-3 who works 6 hours a day and then goes home to their luxury apartment with a pool and jacuzzi.

The real pay disparity in the military is people (largely) only getting paid for their rank and not how hard their job is.

>>63915424
>You have to heard people and be blamed for stuff you had no control over and in my dads case he worked like 20-40 hours a week of glorious unpaid overtime depending on the circumstances
Job and branch dependent. You would be startled by how little certain O career fields actually work. AGR national guard officer is the fucking dream.
>And there are lots of easier ways to be set that are nicer than military life, but it can kinda be boring
They’re really aren’t, buddy. The median salary in the USA is $50k. Are there nicer jobs out there? Yes, but if they were easy, everyone would do them. Military O is unironically one of the quickest ways to go from 21 year old retard to making six figures in the USA.

Enlisted is some of the best money you can make as a 17 year old retard who’s never done anything. The people who bitch the most are the 35 year old retards who’ve never done anything in life and enlisted in their middle age because they have no other options
>Hurr, duh pay sucks
Yeah, because most E-2s are fucking teenagers, and you’re a grown ass man in your prime earning years.

>>63915460
Yes, it’s a high cost of living area. You will get paid less at another, but guess what, everything else will be cheaper. Officers have a nice standard of living everywhere. It’s the E-5s with five offspring that struggle.

If you’re an officer and you’re poor, you are simply retarded. There is no other explanation. And I’ve met poor officers. They are retards.
>I have negative equity on my Tesla
Cry to someone who cares.

>>63915481
>Can you elaborate on the easier ways to be making more than 150k by 25?
There are none. He’s a retard.

>>63915481
Not giving up all the beans but if you go to a technical college for Airplane maintenance you can currently get a job at one of the midrange companies and get paid $36 an hour as a 20 year old. Over time is 1.5x for the first two hours and 2x for every hour after that. Weekend work can be anywhere from 1.5-3x your regular pay depending on your contract
There’s lots of traveling work in the airlines to so going a weeks at a time on per diem is kinda normal
And it all adds up I’m 24 and get paid 42 an hour for my certs and incentives

Might not be for everyone but I’d rather do this than be in the military

>>63915599
>Not giving up all the beans but if you go to a technical college for Airplane maintenance
Doesn’t it take like 3 years to get your A&P? Also, there’s a lot (like a fucking lot) of aircraft MX in the military. And the mil will pay for your A&P.
>you can currently get a job at one of the midrange companies and get paid $36 an hour as a 20 year old.
Uh, without your A&P? Or are we assuming they started fresh at 17 and already have it?
>Over time is 1.5x for the first two hours and 2x for every hour after that. Weekend work can be anywhere from 1.5-3x your regular pay depending on your contract
Don’t most places start you on nights though? For like years? I feel like that’s important to mention.
>And it all adds up I’m 24 and get paid 42 an hour for my certs and incentives
Good for you man, but that’s still like $84k a year + whatever healthcare plan you got. That’s a far cry away from $150k like an O-3 in Cali is pulling. Obviously officer pay varies by location, but $84k is prolly a fucking O-1 in Bumfuck, No Where. E-5, E-6 is pulling that depending on the where they’re at and such.

>Might not be for everyone but I’d rather do this than be in the military
Yeah, that’s fine, but aircraft MX is hard ass work. You’re also prolly gonna end up nights. Also, you can do that in the military for at least a contract, get your A&P, and leave for civvy maintenance.

Not even being a recrooter here, but we’re discussing mil pay and jobs and such, so just putting it in perspective.

>>63915358
Apparently they're not putting AIT dropout niggas with clearances as cooks but moving them to something a little easier but with clearance needed so good change does seem to be happening to the MI community

>>63915358
It varies, hard to say what things will look like when you graduate. I went a year ago, most people went to FORSCOM from my class. Fill out your IPPS-A preferences, contact your branch manager (respectfully), and cross your fingers.

>>63915775
A&P has no more time in program requirements but even then lots of people I graduated with got theirs within 18 months and now days there are 2week crash corses (for people who are in the industry but just want a quick way to get certed)
> Uh, without your A&P? Or are we assuming they started fresh at 17 and already have it?
I’m looking at Alaskas pay scale and 36 is without the A&P but you have no shot to work on any flight line as a 20 year old without it
>Don’t most places start you on nights though? For like years? I feel like that’s important to mention.
It’s not as cut and dry as that like on paper I’m on nights but if I go on a temporary assignment it can be whenever we are set up to work.

>Salarycel thinks my base pay is anywhere near my actual pay
I don’t know how to put this in a way that is believable because I don’t really believe it but I barely missed 6 figures pre tax last year and this year if I keep working a steady amount of overtime I’m set to break 130k and this isn’t including my temporary assignment travel pay food allowance and incidentals

Eh it feels gross to talk about how much money I make on4channel but there’s a lot of money to be made idk what to say

I’m not a team lead as long as I have my own head screwed on and don’t hurt anyone I’m ok and that’s it also I get to get paid to fly to major cities every so often

>>63915992
I can never get a photo that I take with the damn camera to orient the right way since the iPhone 5

>>63915992
>A&P has no more time in program requirements
Interesting. That’s new.
>but even then lots of people I graduated with got theirs within 18 months and now days there are 2week crash corses (for people who are in the industry but just want a quick way to get certed)
Okay, but that 2 week crash course means diddly shit to somebody who has no experience because no way they’re gonna pass that shit. It seems like the standard approach is still get your A&P first then work. Maybe work a little while you’re in A&P school (still prolly gonna make less while you’re learning).
>I’m looking at Alaskas pay scale and 36 is without the A&P but you have no shot to work on any flight line as a 20 year old without it
I had no idea it was even legal to work without some kind of A&P certification. I don’t think I even want unqualified teenagers working on fucking aircraft lol. At least the Air Force holds your hand until they’re sure you want blow everything up.
>It’s not as cut and dry as that like on paper I’m on nights but if I go on a temporary assignment it can be whenever we are set up to work.
Okay, but you’re on nights though. Military can put you on nights too, but I’ve never heard of anyone going straight to the airlines and being put on days from the jump.

>I don’t know how to put this in a way that is believable because I don’t really believe it but I barely missed 6 figures pre tax last year and this year if I keep working a steady amount of overtime I’m set to break 130k and this isn’t including my temporary assignment travel pay food allowance and incidentals
I get how overtime works, but not everyone wants to work 50+ hours a week. There’s no overtime in the military. Some mil people are working crazy long hours. Other people are working crazy short hours, but they pay is the same no matter what.

Some mil gigs travel a ton and get a lot of per diem, but your varies job to job.

>>63911610
The reason isreal is so talked about is because its national news atm, the entire time i was in it was never mentjoned outside of the yearly extremism awareness class that was "mandatory"

>>63914519
The pt changes have already been implemented on june 1, they took out the spt and brought the max time allowed for the 2 mile to 1955 for my age

>>63916049
> Okay, but that 2 week crash course means diddly shit to somebody who has no experience because no way they’re gonna pass that shit.
Yeah I know guys who threw 10k at that program just to fail, it’s ment to be like the minimum legal requirement to get someone who already knows what they are doing to pass and like I said 10k is a normal asking price for these crash corses
But yeah it’s standard to do the two year corse regardless of where you start I’ve met some really cool military guys there like a marine who worked on f-35s on a latorial ship and a Blackhawk crew chief

>I had no idea it was even legal to work without some kind of A&P certification. I don’t think I even want unqualified teenagers working on fucking aircraft lol. At least the Air Force holds your hand until they’re sure you want blow everything up.

You’d be surprised most of the people at major repair stations aren’t A&Ps most of the flight line work is done by techs with A&Ps but repair stations are like a 50/50 split and to be fair to them they know what they are doing they just don’t have the license but because they work under the repair stations license they don’t need a personal one even though they get paid more for it

What job options do you have post enlistment?

>5 years as an 11b in the guard
>5 years active duty 11A/infantry officer
>just VTIP’d to 35A/MI as a Captain
>company commander for an OSUT/basic training company on Sand Hill

Ask me anything. If any of you retards are thinking of enlisting as an infantryman, I might be your company commander

If I started the process to commission (Army) now at 32 years old, would I be cucked for branching how I want even if I get in with age waivers?

>>63917237
Hey >>63917580 is me. I’m looking into commissioning and would probably want to branch combat arms or intel if I did. Can you tell me anything about those, like if they’re worth it, what pros and cons there are, what challenges I might face. Thanks in advance.

>>63916728
Depends entirely what rate/mos you pick and what you do with your time in the service. You might as well ask me % the S&P 500 is going to close at next Thursday.

>>63916728
>What job options do you have post enlistment?
Well, Vice President of the United States obviously.

>>63896695 (OP)
can one of you glowniggers tell someone you work with who isn't a cock suckign retarded dumb fuck that you stupid niggers should stop shopping out all your code to fucking third world retarded niggers

holy fuck are we ever going to get fucking destroyed in anything serious if the rest of the code bases of ours look like these

here is another tip

have the developers executed

sudheer should be torn apart by gorillas

good afternoon killers
i am set to leave for air force bmt in september
that is all carry on

>>63918511
What did Sudheer Babu do to you?

>>63917580
>>63917587
Sorry I don’t have service in my office.

You won’t get cucked out of your branch of choice because of your age. That being said, do you already have your degree and are you trying to go through OCS? What do you want to do in the army and why do you want infantry/MI? Answer those questions and I’ll be able to give better advice

>>63919269
I do have a degree. I would be an OCS candidate. Honestly, I want to see if I could make a career out of the military and if not, I would want to my stint and run for local office here afterward. My hope would be that a veteran resume would give me a leg up.

>>63918595
Good luck chairman

>>63911387
how does the debt removal work exactly? is it really just "i went to college for free, now i can go officer?"

>>63918505
It sounds like our system is collapsing under the weight of its contradictions.

>>63917946
How do I get Peter Thiel to give millions to my campaigns? I just have to promise that Palantir will keep getting government contracts?

>>63919833
My point is why do you want to specifically go Infantry or MI? What do you want to do in the military? I know a lot of people who thought they’d stay in for 20 and are getting out within the first few years.

>>63917237
How is the officer side of OSUT? I'm considering volunteering to go there to be an XO

>>63922539
It’s not too bad. It’s a lot different than being an XO in FORSCOM. On the bright side you have a lot more stability since you won’t be deploying, and you know your work schedule 6+ months out. Downside is you will work a lot of saturdays, and being an XO in general just sucks. I’m biased though because I dislike the logistical side of being an XO. You also don’t have a set summer block leave.

Why do you want to be an OSUT XO? I’m assuming you’re in the JOBA marketplace?

>>63920723
Some services offer student loan repayment, but it’s less common now and usually doesn’t cover everything.

However, the military will cover your whole education if you serve before you attend college. Tuition assistance, GI Bill, etc. If you want to go to college and have even an inkling you want to join the military, I’d just enlist Air Force immediately in like finance or something and do college after. I always feel bad for those dudes with $80k in student loans who just end up enlisting anyways after graduation (there’s a lot of them in the military).

There are ROTC scholarships to get your education covered before serving, but they kinda suck compared to the GI Bill. Also, not everyone gets them. It’s weird. I’ve met O-4s that are still paying back student loans. It’s crazy.

Honestly, I think if you’re deadset on the officer path, then the best route is
8 year enlistment > get out (or guard/reserve for tuition assistance) > ROTC + GI Bill > Commission > 12 years officer > Retire O-3 or O-4

But only if you have a crystal ball and can see the future and know you’re doing 20. Officers with 6+ years of enlisted TIS are fucking untouchable. They hover above the officer fuck-fuck games. They can retire without having to make O-5 or even O-4 potentially. They can shit on the boss’s desk and take a nap in his chair and be fine. You skip all the bullshit of the senior ranks on both the E and O side.

>>63922905
I pretty much got everything I wanted out of my battalion already. All that's left is a long time in the shop. Might as well see more of the army. I doubt an OSUT XO is very exciting but at least there's more stability.
What does the field time look like for officers? Do they get involved in any training or just sit around? If they go to the field at all

>>63923070
thank you. im not really hard on anything but i am approaching my 8 year so that is an interesting suggestion and i will make a note of it to consider. i am probably carreer but im personally thinking warrant. i was curious in case someone asked me about joining the military, i would tell them to do college first and chop it off with service, but that obviously sounded too good to be true. im doing online college now but its making daily life frustrating, i wish i could have done that before joining but no debt is great too

Sup niggers, I'm currently in the foreign legion but it sucks balls, we get 0 training it's just hazing and incompetence.
Is there any conceivable way I could enlist in the US army or marines?

>>63923283
An OSUT XO is way more involved with training than you would think. You will most likely assist the drills as a safety on ranges, and fill top 3 requirements out in the field. That being said, you will at most spend like 1 or 2 nights in a row out in the field. For FTXs you’ll be out there the whole day, but then you go home for the night unless it’s your night.

>>63896695 (OP)
Hey folks, let me know if you have any questions about being a Corpsmen or becoming a Naval Aviator.
>>63900783
IMHO people should focus on exactly what they want to do in the military, rather than what they could do on the outside. Just a have a plan that will suit your goals and needs getting out.

>>63924782
Nah bucko finish your contract with the escargots hon hon hon

Alright so I'm about to go to boot camp in the next too weeks, I know my 10 general orders + Saliors Creed, the only worry i have is, not being fit enough, and not having any friends, how would you fix these problems?

>>63925085
In the next two weeks*

And small dumb question, would it be okay to date while in bootcamp? (if that happens should I marry for military benefits?)

>>63925095
>date while in bootcamp

>>63925095
You'll be fine with your 10 general orders and Sailors Creed. Try and familiarize yourself with ranks too. If you're able to pass your initial PRT they will probably promote you to E2 on the spot (that might not be the case 10 years later). Absolutely do not try and date in bootcamp, that will get you shit canned, and in general its best not to shit where you eat. 99% of military women arent worth it.

>>63925191
Alright cool, so don't date. What about making friends, should I try, or just be mute and follow?

>>63925208
Yeah making friends is good. The navy is a small place so you never know who you'll run into in the fleet. Especially try to be friends with the guys who signed on for the same rate as you.

>>63925214
Ty for info

>>63896695 (OP)
What are tactical implications of the US navy ads on the ‘chan? The glavset and ccp glowies on /pol/ are losing their minds over it.

>>63925444
>Navy advertises on 4chan
>Army advertises to island boys fanbase
Who does Air Force/Space Force target? What's a Coast Guard?

>>63925649
Reddit (the Air Force community is by far the most active military community there), the boater community for coast guard

>>63925657
>Reddit (the Air Force community is by far the most active military community there)
Fucking kek makes a lot of sense now that you mention it

I’m going to join the Ukrainian army next year, any advice?

>>63925772
Why not right now?

>>63925776
Personal reasons and I know a couple of other guys that are thinking of doing it then too

>>63925792
Sounds like excuses and smells like "you're disrespecting a future us army soldier" energy

>>63925810
Im an undisciplined zoomer, of course it take me a year to get ready for this sort of thing

>>63901260
Bumping again for anyone with a college education looking at med school, dental, vet school etc

>>63925772
>>63925834
Are you Ukrainian? If yes, do whatever you want.
If no, join your country's army they probably pay more. Ukraine literally does not have any gibs left. The pay rate is horrendous just use google.

>>63926204
I want action not gibs.

>>63926469
Go get action now, they'll discipline and train you

How do I get involved in some Air America / Barry Seale / Mena Arkansas style shenanigans?

>>63926204
My country’s military is a joke and I just want to fight for that sort of cause

I feel like I'm most likely to find an answer here without starting a new thread.
What's the purpose of this pole sticking off the back of this here fifty?

>>63925772
There might not even be a Ukrainian army to join next year.

>>63898495
There’s a guy named Jeff Nichols, former DEVGRU and now fitness coach who I saw say once that guys who lose a lot of weight and then hit the standards to go to selection tend to do pretty well. It makes sense to me. So I guess just lose the weight and get fit enough.

>>63921899
I’m not necessarily wedded to infantry, more like combat arms in general. Why? First of all because I’ve read that a combat arms stint is more important as you rank up. Second, because that’s basically military bread and butter right? That’s what people join to do. I’m not saying I would definitely want to do 20 as an infantry officer. I’m just saying I may as well see if I do if I’m going to join. As for intel, I previously worked in finance and A LOT of the guys in good jobs that I worked with were in Intel. I asked why they were all Intel once and the guy told me it just prepares you better for civilization employment than other branches. So my attitude is basically do the army thing or do the thing that prepares you for life after army thing. Those are combat arms and Intel as far as I can tell.

Went to a recruiter today. Trying for 11b. Says I should be able to go to MEPS for asvab in 2 weeks, and physical in 3 weeks. Neverending Opportunities, pray for me lads

>>63929858
Why does everyone want to be fucking infantry? There’s no war right now.

>>63930155
What else would you recommend that doesn't require a secret clearance?

>>63930155
If youre going to be doing fuckfuck jobs anyways, why not go for a job with a chance at maybe doing something cool?

Idk, medfag here, im terminal POG but dont care because I'm getting an MD out of it and getting to triage and treat war trauma would set me up for life at a good civilian job when I get done. No war? No problem, I'm working at a trauma center anyways.

>>63930167
Why can’t you get a secret clearance?

>>63930394
I'm trying to leave asap due to homelessness

>>63930181
>If youre going to be doing fuckfuck jobs anyways,
There’s plenty of MOSes that aren’t “fuck, fuck” jobs. Infantry is the textbook “fuck, fuck” job.
>why not go for a job with a chance at maybe doing something cool?
There’s a lot of MOS that do cool shit. The odds of doing cool shit in infantry actually isn’t that great outside of cool training schools you may or may not get to go to.

>>63930404
You can still get a security clearance, especially a secret.

>>63930413
I'm struggling to find references as is and have to lie about my housing situation. I'm pretty much a nomad with zero acquaintances

>>63930181
>11B
>chance at maybe doing something cool
He didn't mention Option 40

>>63930623
Like i said, idk man I'm in my last year of med school I dont know what compells a teenager to enlist in the infantry

Asking again, is there any conceivable way I can enlist in the muhreens or army if I'm an euro citizen?

>>63930704
You need a green card.

Gm

Le fake flags tomorw I read on pol. This rime is really happening like in the army parade!

>>63930704
Call a recruiter

>>63896695 (OP)
>www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/index.php
>For all Army SF info.

How do I become a Joint Special Hatchet Brewing Company operator? Is alcoholism a prequisite or is part of the elite training? Are Multicam® Black™ pants with a tacticool graphic tshirt mandatory off duty uniform or just when walking around downtown? Is it ok if spouses brag about your cool guy status to random people they don't know while they're out shopping? What if a Chechen comes in your yard, do you get a free license to kill?

>>63934955
More often than not I've found these hatchet/beard oil/coffee/cigarette manicured brovets are people that got dishonorably discharged or washed out of BMT which I guess makes sense when it takes a specific type of pussy to play dress-up

Is 26 too old to sign up and do cool shit?

>>63935980
Define what you consider cool shit but generally no. The spy/counterintelligence/group(SFG) assignments do require experience and having proven yourself in your first contract but as long as you don't have deformities and keep pushing yourself on every workout you can make it happen. I imagine it's the same for other branches

>>63935980
Not too late to start a med school push if youre hardworking and not a retard. Depends on if you think medicine is cool, but you'll be an officer so you'll never be one of the boys

>>63936148
>you'll be an officer so you'll never be one of the boys
Yeah but you can still be for the boys

>>63900772
Dunno if ull see this but im at goodfellow rn. What u wanna know?

Hello, I am in the Army National Guard.

Do not join after high school if your goal is to do cool Army shit because nothing is guaranteed unless you're in a kickass state in a unit that has funding.
If your end goal is college you're better off joining active and doing classes part time and get out with your full post 9-11 gi bill.

Everyones experiences are different though, I'm just here to bitch because I wish I had taken a different path when I turned 18.

>>63914840
Fgt

>>63925772
>advicd
You can kill yourself easier if you just used a 12G to the head

>>63926469
>action
You'll get death, not action. Why do retards think it's fun to get bombed? The only people who think war is "fun" are the ones who haven't actually fought.

>>63927045
>they'll discipline and train you
Nigga, the Ukranians aren't even doing formations anymore, because it turns out formations make easy targets for drones, and it's not the 1800's anymore so formations offer no tactical advantage. Mutts still haven't learned this lesson somehow, so they still dedicate crazy effort to perfecting 200 year old marching and D&C.

>>63937761

>>63937761

New thread is up! Happy 4th of July!

>>63937375
>Mutts still haven't learned this lesson somehow, so they still dedicate crazy effort to perfecting 200 year old marching and D&C.
You must be one of the resident schizos that washed out in basic training. Drill and ceremonies doesn’t exist outside of basic training unless you’re fucking Honor Guard or something (which duh).
>they dedicate crazy effort
Is so fucking false it can only come from someone who never served or never made it past basic training. I haven’t done D&C since the day I graduated basic. Not a single time since.