Range report edition

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>>64067424 (OP)
I had a great day at the range today. Hit multiple milestones
>sub second draw with my CCW pistols, repeatable
>sub 2 second bill drill at 7 yards, 5/6 A hits 1 C, repeatable, with my PX4 Compact.

And really shot my Nighthawk Predator. At the range I actually used the IOS optic system and swapped between irons, RMR, and ACRO without having to touch optic screws once. Return to zero between swaps is as advertised.

Shot 7, 12, and 25 yards with my nighthawk.

>>64067441

>>64067441
Said optic swap

When will the final embers of this fruitless war die out?

>>64067441
Well done, Anon. If only the other members of this general were so committed to training and improving

Five
Hundred
Cigarettes

>>64067535
Where's yours?

why can't I buy a m9a4 in black

>>64067535
Thanks, I owe it all to the anons who pointed me towards Ben Stoeger

>>64067572
I don’t know. Beretta released Black, Green, Gray, M9A3s. My first gun being a black M9A3. It’s just Cerakote. Except the black being bruiton (paint over parkerization).

The fact they made an inox 92X means they might actually listen to what people want and release a black one. I kind of want to see what a polished inox would look like.

>>64067587
I simply want a non-plastic framed 9mm for suppressed shooting

>>64067535
Still waiting for you to post your groups or any sign at all that you train.

>>64067590
Beretta OEM suppressor barrels are like 160 dollars or so on sale from their website, you might need to spend 200 dollars or more to qualify for the sale

>>64067599
>>64067571
What’s your problem man

I saw last thread the “Hi-Power sucks” image was posted again
I’m someone else who has been looking at the SA35 for a while
if it is shitty, then what are some good similar models
I know the CZ-75 gets brought up a lot, I would just have to figure out what specific model I want
I know less about the metal S&W, but there are also lots of variants, and also don’t they have magazine safeties?
I’m personally thinking about getting a Dp51/K5 for something that’s also unqiue and slim, but also cheaper and solid because it’s a service pistol
I will have to just make sure it’s not one one the low accuracy ones
there are probably a lot more options, that I have never heard of or looked into

>>64067642
What are you looking for?

DA/SA? SAO? Metal frames? Or good triggers

>>64067441
Ben you say?
Now try shooting like that with someone shooting back at you using simunition or paintballs. You will very quickly learn why competition shooters form and techniques do not translate to real life situations.

>>64067571
I only have off one weekend a month. I took an advanced pistol class last weekend I had off but I didn't keep any of the targets I shot

>>64067599
Even if I didn't train, it's better to advocate for actually shooting handguns than eceleb circlejerk faggotry that has been shitting up these threads since time immemorial

>>64067668
Matt Pranka says you’re fucking retarded and Ben trains SOF

The mechanic skill of shooting better will transfer over to any other shooting. Being able to shoot better, through better trigger control, index, recoil control, etc will transfer over to any other shooting that involves a pistol.

I am not saying a competition shooter is going to clear a kill house safer and better than someone who’s specifically trained in CQC, but the skills of a competitive shooter will transfer over to anything else involving a trigger. Don’t strawman.

>>64067696
Thanks for confirming you're a retard that can only appeal to authority.

>>64067653
In general just looking for hammer fired, metal frame, and slim/small enough that I can EDC but not so tiny or light that it is hard to hold or control
a good trigger would be preferential, but good enough is also ok
All of the above is why I was looking at the SA-35, I held one at a gun store and it felt really good in my hands
a 9mm 1911 is also something I was considering but I’m not sure how that would be as they’re not originally designed for that caliber, and can’t hold as many rounds

>>64067711
What about a Sig p232 or Beretta 84FS? Hammer-fired and slim don't really go together often

>>64067696
Bad form is bad form. For live shooting it reveals itself under fire. Feet square instead of staggered in an athletic stance bad. Square to target, bad unless you have plates and Kevlar from your balls to your neck, and even then it's not great.
A LOT of people train the military. The Rangers got physical strength training from a guy who was kicked out of the gym that trained him for being literally retarded and training people incorrectly.
Sorry kid, comp shooting will train you incorrectly. And those habits become ingrained into muscle memory.
Instead of being a clown on the internet go have a round of paintball with a few guys. Or simulation. Drag a few comp shooters with you. You will find out damn quickly you are wrong.

>>64067668
OK boomer. Stoeger trains special forces worldwide. Shooting is a skill like any other, especially when done under time pressure with objective criteria. Tactics are a different skill set.

>>64067668
>Now try shooting like that with someone shooting back at you using simunition or paintballs

so what you're saying is that you should train to flinch as you get hit? i don't get it.

>>64067424 (OP)
My brand new TX22 optic plate got loose in under 100 rounds. I unfortunately fell for the Burt psyop again.

>>64067727
You are literally so stupid interacting with you is not possible in any meaningful way.

>>64067726
>Bad form is bad form. For live shooting it reveals itself under fire. Feet square instead of staggered in an athletic stance bad. Square to target, bad unless you have plates and Kevlar from your balls to your neck, and even then it's not great.

Lmao. The worst thing about gun spaces online is aggressively ignorant internet badasses like you who think but do not know.

>>64067605
Really? Fuck, I spent way more than that on mine.

>you wanna get better at shooting handguns? Forget the range or dryfiring in your house, go play paintball
Underageb& pls go and stay go

>>64067710
Mental midget, you from arg and made about something?

Go shoot or something dude, it’s the weekend

>>64067711
I was a metal frame bro until I got a USP and PX4, polymer just fucking works

The CSX was literally designed for you. SAO, aluminum frame, double stack, manual of arms better than a micro 1911. Kimber also has a CSX like pistol, I hear good things. CDS9. Kimber also has a larger not a 2011-2011 called the KDS9, also heard good things about it. I have a CSX, good shooting gun, but it gave me the itch for a real 1911/2011 and my bank account has never recovered.

I would look at the CZ-75s, people complain about the firing pin retaining pin but you can replace that with an aftermarket one that doesn’t break. The Shadow 2 Compact and Carry (two completely different pistols, one steel/safety and one aluminum/decocker) seem to be in your alley. My carry of choice was a 92 Compact which I say can have an amazing trigger for not that much money, but it was too wide for actual concealment. I had to wear a hoodie and other cover garments, just a T shirt was pushing it. The PX4 Compact has the same trigger geometry as the 92, possible can have a better trigger than the 92, and is smaller and thinner than a 92 compact. I love my PX4 Compact

I would see if you can try out the CSX or the kimbers.

>>64067755
You have to spend enough money to qualify for the 40% off or something, like spend 500 dollars and get 40% off. I got my MGW sight pusher (300 dollars normally) with a threaded barrel and some mags

>>64067756
Thats hysterical. I wonder why the Infantry used to do MOUT with paintball guns?
>>64067750
You must be the "he trained sf guy"
Fast interaction training is instinctive shooting drills. As they are all close range and instant. Everything else is M4 or long arms.
Meme on edgelord

>>64067737
Good riddance. Emotionally reactive golems like you drag everyone around them down.

>>64067775
I already went shooting this morning you knuckle dragging sub 65 IQ mongoloid.
Nice reddit trash btw.

>>64067794
Post guns and passport

>>64067803
Faggy little dick riders like you get good men killed by passing on bad information gathered from retard level cult like following of people who don't know shot about shooting under fire.
Point shooting. Instinctive shooting. Like it or not that is what is trained at the highest level of pistol for combat. Everything else is fluff.

>>64067831
Okay, let’s test this with some targets, a course, and a timer

A snake is most dangerous when it’s coiled

-Polybius Snake

>>64067441
Yawn, gunko pop tier reddit updoot shit that don't demonstrate skill

>>64067755
Oh and nice picture

I should go back to 2D

>>64067831
>Faggy little dick riders like you get good men killed

This is what really makes him mad, that someone else knows more than he does. It's not about improving skill but about protecting ego.

>Point shooting. Instinctive shooting. Like it or not that is what is trained at the highest level of pistol for combat

Lol you fucking retard. "Point shooting" in modern form is exactly what Stoeger/Pranka/Hwansik/Park teach.

>>64067755
>>64067605
Look I get it you’re an incel with zero chance of being married you don’t have to keep reminding us every thread

>>64067865
No, it isn't. Allow me be the first to congratulate you on exposing yourself as a retard. Point shooting does not involve looking down the sights. Not to mention comp form leaves you exposed under fire.
>>64067844
Test it with airsoft pistols and a friend. You can get real weird and action replicas.

>>64067894
Who cares? You boogalooloo scenario will never happen schizo.

>>64067865
Again, no it isn't.

>>64067900
Here's your updoot kind sir!
+1

>>64067906
Ok tardo

Pathetic raid from glocktroon and his arg buddies

Is this the best you got?

>>64067919
You own no guns

>t-they didn’t like my incel comics with pristine, unworn guns that are shot twice a year?
>wtf is this a raid???

>>64067889
You sound like a jealous roastie. I brought my wife to America with me and we just has our first beautiful halfbreed baby.

>>64067937
Based hapa breeder. This guy is clearly an obese jelly poorfag.

>>64067931
See >>64067528
and this extremely cringe post >>64067845

lol. We’ve had to deal with a mentally ill illegal immigrant spamming interracial gay pornography and gore for years and this is your best attempt?

>>64067919
One of your faggots has been spamming our thread for days now going after pastebin
Hoping someone uses AI to make your threads unusable however it seems like your resident schizos already do so

>>64067958
One of those guys is me, so there must be several because pastebin started it. You guys got handguns or something?

Let’s see them

>>64067958
Literally who?

>>64067937
>couldn’t meet a nice woman
>mail order bride
Yup you’re a loser alright! I try not to punch down however it’s very deserved in this case.

>>64067967
Nah you'll get nothing for your shitty behavior

>>64067976
Glocktroon this entire time was an arg personality, pastebin, he never thought anyone would be able to connect the dots despite it taking me 1 thread to figure it out.

>>64067985
Nobody cared until you started spamming this shit for days long faggot

>>64067982
Shalom

What is the source of this art book?Searching the name returns nothing.

>Autistic discord trannies being mentally ill faggots ruining 4chan threads because they are unable to get a handle on their emotions

>>64068013
Exclusive from Marina Amatsu’s fan club, you need to get a membership to even be able to buy it, which I missed the first run of them and my guy was able to get the second run.

>>64067958
>>64067919
Unironic retard fight from two fags who are literally making shit up in their head and sowing discord in generals for no reason

>>64068028
I would be surprised if there were more than 5 people in the U.S. who have it

>>64067977
>t. seething white roastie
Japanese girls have your kind beat in every category.

>>64068051
*seething white trans-roastie
Remember this is the internet, there isn’t any women here

cc9 blog post and review: I hit 1,500 rounds recently and would like to tell anons about it so they can either make an informed decision about purchasing it or shit on it in a more calculated way

>the good
1. great length of pull with the larger backstrap, finger never feels scrunched up while completing trigger pull
2. decent enough trigger for a micro9, only one that's been better for me is the shield plus performance center edition
3.the iron sights are great, maybe that's personal preference but tritium front black rear just works for me. XS makes them
4. not planning on putting an optic on mine but the optic cut is good if you want to use a holosun, it does do a low co-witness. My friend has the cc9 that came with a red dot and while it's great to shoot I just don't want to have a little extra bulk while I carry
5. this is probably subjective but the gun does feel a lot more 'premium' compared to other micro 9's. (Compared to the shield plus, a csx, a glock 43x that I own)
6. big trigger guard

>the bad
1. grip texture is lacking which is why I added that ugly ass tape. I like shooting pistols fast and magdumping and with it being so thin it does have the tendency to walk out of my hand even when I'm vicegripping it. What the fuck were they thinking not texturing further up.
is
2. For some reason this thing gets hotter than any other gun I've shot, especially compared to those other's that I listed above

>the indifferent
1. You don't need me to tell you this but the looks
2. I was going to put this into the negative category but it's made in the US instead of germany. I do think the overall quality of the cc9 let me place it into the indifferent category though
3. Similarly to my echelon, these companies offer FCU type pistols and then don't follow it up with more OEM parts. The cc9 (and the echelon) are fine, but you should try to actually make use of the modularity. Only time will tell.

It's not perfect but I do think it's the best micro9 out there

>>64068062
Thanks but nobody needed a review on what is essentially a taurus

>>64068062
Thanks for providing actual good content here

I wonder if there is a modern pistol under $1000 that nobody on /hg/ has

>>64068062
Ignore that other Anon he's a fag. Thank you for the post.

>>64068062
It looks better with the tape IMO. The frame screamed Taurus to me

>>64068079
No person on /hg/ owns a P320, because P320 owners aren't people.

>>64068079
The Kimber CDS9c

>>64068081
Ignore this anon he's a cum gurgler. That gun is a tarted up Taurus.

>>64068062
My comment was getting too long. I have had 0 stoppages or malfunctions. I've shot 124gr blazer brass and after the 500 round break-in, I've shot 115gr blazer brass. Steel cased hornady critical duty 147gr. S&B 124 gr. I've also shot 30 rounds of federal +P through it just because the cc9 is rated for it.
>>64068071
You're welcome anon. I did mention that you could use my reddit review to shit on the pistol
>>64068077
>>64068085
thanks bros

>>64068099
What’s your opinion on the grip angle? I held one at the store and hated it, it pointed like a Glock to me

>>64068097
Don't ignore this anon. He's correct and HK's garbage mold lines and shitty mim parts means they might as well be Taurus.

>>64068097
>t. Noguns

>>64068123
This but unironically.
>>64068126
Get some new material.

>>64068097
shut up nigger all you can use are hi points

>>64068123
What the fuck are those lines on the back of the slide? Machine marks? That's awful, do they not have finishing endmills at HK?

>>64068126
Cry more. HK USA will become just like SIG in a few years.

>>64068115
I only really got into shooting handguns since october but I've shot about 17,000 rounds since then, I autistically track round count/ammunition type/noteworthy events. Up until very recently I've cautioned anons saying my opinion comes from a novice but with with the caliber of posters here nowadays I feel like it's worthy. The grip angle doesn't matter too much because I dry fire it daily and just sort of get used to it. I only 'notice' these things when I take a whole bunch of different pistols out to shoot or borrow my friends. To me it's more about getting out of the groove of a certain pistol and switching it up. I really like the ergos of the cc9
>>64068123
Brother maybe you're not wrong but I got it for $650. There's not a lot out there competition-wise that doesn't share your issue with the cc9. It shits on my shield plus as far as fit and finish goes
>>64068149
I'm curious because I only own austrian glocks. Is glock USA a step down in quality compared to their euro made models?

>>64068157
>I only really got into shooting handguns since october but I've shot about 17,000 rounds since then
Look at captain moneybags over here

>>64068157
Oh certainly I could adjust to the grip angle, it was just immediately striking to me the angle and pointing for me.

CSX vs CC9?

>>64068173
I find the cc9 to be way more comfortable, especially while shooting it fast. My support hand thumb doesn't have a great place to go on the csx. Some people talk about the inconsistency of the e series trigger but mine is about 4 pounds and is crisp with no false reset. If you're a 1911 type pistol fanboy or appreciate metal guns then go for the csx. It's pretty cool being able to have a 17 round backup magazine too. I do think for your average person the cc9 is the better buy though

P320 was literally designed by a Austrian guy
Where is the retard lore coming from?

>>64068123
I remember way the fuck back when /k/ was shitting on taurus for using mim parts, specifically in their 1911s. Why the fuck does hk get a free pass?

>>64068245
HK’s mim is better and they’re protected by the mythical reputation of the USP. Keyword mythical since it’s based on myths and hearsay, the USP is not the mk23 which was the gun that was actually tested to oblivion and back. It’s a cheaper simplified version

>>64068139
Get a gun

Return to leather white man

>>64068079
I can think of a bunch of shit-tier guns that never get posted here:

Diamondback
Derya Arms
Tisas PX9
Ermox
BRG 9
SAR
Bul Cherokee/Hatchet/Axe/Cleaver
Saricam
Girsan Beretta clones
Caracal
Walther CCP
Walther WMP (or really anything in .22 Magnum)
KOR FX-9

Also, some relatively good guns that never really get posted:

Lionheart/Daewoo
Kimber Mako
Grand Power K100
FB Radom Vis

>>64068278
Return to leddit

>>64068296
I always find that Diamondback when I search for Colt Diamondbacks.

>>64068278
Leather lined kydex is the goat

>>64068296
Also the Mossberg MC2C and Savage Stance

there's hundreds of shitter guns out there that no actually sentient being ever buys or reviews
they're essentially gun shovelware

:3c

>>64063537
>i would say it's probably the "best" trigger setup i've tried so far
eh, i take back what i said. after posting that, i decided to swap back in my stock trigger parts (well, mostly, i still like my OEM gen 3 smooth faced trigger) and i honestly liked it way better. did a lot better in dry fire practice. maybe it's just because i'm already used to it and it's already worn in.

i dunno, aftermarket shit always feels fucky to me, like something isn't quite right. doesn't instill confidence. oh well, lesson learned.

I practiced my draw and follow up shots today, never really tried that before. it was tough finding my sights cause I don't even practice that at home really, now I know what work on. also shot one handed which was really fun for some reason. I'm starting to not focus on my groupings as much right now since I don't shoot competition and don't care to, as long as I'm on decently target for now while I practice my draw and one handed shots I'm okay. i need to get those fundamentals down first before my groups tighten up.

/k/, did you go to the range this week?

>>64067755
>>64067572
>>64067587

Will Beretta ever restock the aluminum lanyard loop, it just doesn't exist online and it's the last piece I need to autistically complete my plain jane 92FS.

indoor or outdoor range?

>>64068372
lol

>>64068411
I like indoor ranges since I can shoot at my pace with my motorized target hanger and not have to deal with ceasefires and having shot up my target already

>>64068411
Outdoor range but shooting from my car

>>64068411
Outdoor so I don't go deaf and don't have to double up on ear pro.