Thread 64072327

We sure have come a long way.

What do you think tanks would look like in the future?

>>64072327 (OP)
Time is a flat circle.

>>64072327 (OP)
SOVL vs SOVLLESS

how far we've fallen

>>64072662
The pyramid tank isn't real, it can't hurt you

Tanks make you wonder by how much our understanding of conventional military design is shaped by culture. The basic design is still a landship upgraded to have a rotating gun turret and suspension.

>>64072653
Oscillating turrets everywhere.

>>64072327 (OP)

>wrap artillery in armor
>long way

fuck off

>>64072653
Unmanned, hybrid electric, ATGMs and autocannons instead of main gun.

>>64072662
If the tank is rockin', don't come'a knockin'

>>64072959
>Thermals
>Laser rangefinders
>Gyro stabilized
>NBC protection
>Turbine engines
>APS
>Reaxtive armor
>Chobam armor
>Consumable cases
>APFSDS
yeah
Not as impressive as a Camel compared to a Raptor, but still a huge leap forward when you consider it is only roughly a century of development or less for all those features.

>>64072676
hell yeah

Finally a chance to post my OC again

Captcha: WASPS

>>64072327 (OP)
They could have rised the grandpa's cannon a bit for the pic. He looks sad.

>>64074760
that's a mg
british tanks only had canons on the sponsons

>>64072327 (OP)
Wish tanks were more cute these days.

>>64072653
The future is unmanned warfare. It's hard to predict exactly where that will take us but tanks as we know them may become obsolete.

>>64075104
CHAFFEE!

>>64072653
small drone tanks at the front, manned tanks will turn into mobile artillery and stay much further back

>>64075296
Fags have been saying that for decades now but it has yet to happen.
Though if it is true could see a future where we have command tanks again controlling hordes of drones.

>>64075335
>Teletank has joined the chat

>>64075335
It's always about unjammable, high bandwidth encrypted non-spoofable datalinks and their reliability when it comes to remote anything and even today this absolutely baloons the cost of such projects that goes beyond the program goals and benefits and kills them.

Even on a more limited scale this is a major part of modern cruise missile cost.

>>64072327 (OP)
bradley better

>>64076579
Have you ever seen Pentagon Wars?

We need more tanks!

I'll dump some personal pics

Tank commanding is lots of fun

A Bradley that everyone thought was a rock until it started blinking dead (MILES) and moving

Local foliage best camo

>>64072327 (OP)
I won't be satisfied until we get retarded behemoths armed with 155mm auto loader shells

After getting into a knife fight with a platoon of Abrams

Watching the BLUFOR push an entire battalion through a breach after I died when all of a sudden...

An Abrams gets stuck in a shit filled hole right next to me!

>>64072327 (OP)
WT matchmaking.

I walk over to bullshit them and and as luck would have it, the commander was a good friend of mine who left a year prior and went to a different unit. He had seen me and wanted to drive by and say hello, and he ended up hanging out with me for a good few hours, having coffee and taking a break until he self recovered his tank by stuffing logs under the tracks

My driver posing

And the massive shitty hole they got stuck in after they got out of it

Camping out in Fort Benning

STX in the snow

The Royal Hussars

>>64076989
>>64077010
>>64076959
>>64076934
Pretty awesome ngl, i keep forgetting that a lot of the people on this site, especially a blue board like /k/ actually have pretty impressive careers.

Broken down right next to a herd of sheep (they kept coming over for handouts, hungry bastards)

Dug into a hasty overwatch with the flecktarn tarp (sadly it did not survive the exercise)

A good little night light on the red lens and a good reading light on the white lens

Going to stop posting now to take a break, might start again if I remember this thread tomorrow and if it's still up. I have years of photos going back to 2019 and when I was still on Abrams tanks
Will end it with a nice group/crews photo.
>>64077051
There's a handful undoubtedly. I just don't like posting much here anymore because it's impossible to have good discussions anymore. I'm sure others feel the same.

>>64077103
I do too. The "Special Military Operation" was kind of the final nail in the coffin for this board as it brought in a ton of redditors and what can only be described as either paid shills or bots. I love Tom Clancy and the kinds of topics his literature covers and /k/ is one of the few places i can engage in intelligent discussions with people on those subjects. I'd like to post some of my own pics but due to an ongoing investigation and security clearances i am not going to try and attract any unwanted attention.

>>64077124
>/k/ is one of the few places i can engage in intelligent discussion
I would almost agree. On some topics you can have some really good quality discussions (nuclear weapons for example, and submarines/naval stuff) but just about anything else is inundated with war tourists, shills for Russians, shills for Ukrainians, and posters who's only experience with anything military or weapon related is YouTube or video games or anecdotal at best.
I remember a while ago there was a Leclerc commander and Merkava commander that would post in /thg/ when it still existed. I miss those days.

>>64077103
Thanks for pics.

Bump

>>64077103
>blah blah blah
t. Armatard. What's the weather like up in Saint Pete, tovarisch?

>>64072653
>rule of cool
Mobile land fortresses
>reality
Current doctrine but expanded to deal with threats as they come

>>64077213
I don’t mind the war stuff but it usually devolves into bait or shit flinging when a genuine question appears

>>64077031
>>64077041
>>64077083
looks comfy as hell, thanks anon

>>64072327 (OP)
>We sure have come a long way.
It's been over 100 years and it's still just a metal box on tracks with a gun or two

>>64079309
>You've yeed your last haw, kraut!

>>64079309
When I look at the thumbnail I thought the guy in the middle had a shovel

>>64079789
>*bonk*

>>64075296
Drones killing drones until one side runs out of drones?
Nonsense

>>64079309
>have giant mobile armored killdozer covered on cannon, mgs and smoke launchers
>get out of it to engage the enemy with sidewarms so that you can be killed by assholes with rifles and your tank mission killed by lack of crewmen.

This just seems like such an utterly shit idea.
Like why would you ever get out of the tank.
If you have escorting infantry they should clear anything nearby while you provide overwatch and if you don't have escorting infantry oh shit nigga what are you doing you should be retreating not dismounting.

>>64077103
thanks anon, enjoyed the photos.

>>64080692
>Like why would you ever get out of the tank.
Its about sending a message.

>>64080870
a message that you are retarded and can be easily defeated by semi concealed infantry positions lying in ambush for when you get out of the tank?

Back with some more pictures

A little expo for school kids to play around at

A little tank tot

Passing and waving to some soldiers of a particular military

Slovenian tanks pass by in a column (T72s are VERY loud, but man they can go wherever they like. Guess there's something to having all steel tracks after all!)

Slovenian tank using ESS to mask the rest of his platoon.
Fun fact, to my knowledge they didn't have radios to communicate amongst each other; the only radios were in the platoon leader's tank. To communicate internally within the platoon, it was hand/arm signals or signal flags. And they still regularly destroyed Abrams platoons. Really impressive honestly.

>>64072653
jagdtiger

The Slovenian tankers were always more than happy to show anyone around on and in their tanks. Couldn't figure out how to adjust the driver's seat (and in hindsight it would've been rude to do so) so it was a very tight fit

Bivouaced in the woods with the Slovenian tank platoon. Instead of sleeping in or on their tanks, they'd bring out a single massive tent and would all sleep inside of it

T-72s on the attack

My buddy's tank company with their Italian allies and their Arietes for that exercise

Abrams with a distinctly non-American crew belonging to a particular military

A T-72 and a "T-80" advance on an Abrams

Now for a few old pictures then I have to go to bed
1989 to 2019, Abrams still rolling around in Germany

Refueling

Waiting in the ready line under a stormy Texas sky

And to finish up for tonight, yours truly as a young junior enlisted getting to remote fire a new SEPv3's first round down range

>>64077010
If I’m 6’6” can I fit in an Abrams?

>>64082253
You might be able to, but it will not be comfortable for you no matter what. You will be the hunchback of Notre Dame in no time
Pic rel is the ideal height for any armored vehicle crewman

>>64082253
The guy who wrote hooligans of kandahar is a pretty big dude and he squeezed in

>>64076959
Why is that tank painted in
desert camo?

>>64082272
>This is the majority of Americans in the military and population
Lmao get fucked

>>64082089

in the warsaw pact they were unironically trained flag signals from childhood

>>64076871
>>64076913
>>64076934
Thank you for your service in defending Atropia from the American invaders.

>>64075335
Command vehicles with follower vehicles is indeed the future
Rheinmetall has cargo trucks where one guy can drive 3 separate cargo trucks through automation (trucks copy human driver route and adjust to keep on it) and some degree of remote controlling
Patria is doing something similar but with their AMV variants that have 120mm mortars. Seems to be command+single follower setup with remote/linked firing based on what they've put out so far.

>>64075104

The SK105, AMX-13 and FV101 are all still in service in south america. If Argentina and Chile or Peru and Ecuador have another war then there will be some CUTE tank battles.

Here's a rare photo of an FV101 in disguise trying to scare away its natural predator: MBTs

>>64083245
The Skolkan Alliance forever stands ready

>>64082280
Huh, never thought id hear that book mentioned on /k/

>>64084071
Qrd on the book?

>>64072327 (OP)
>arguably make 2 of the most influential tank designs
>and nothing but absolute trash outside that
How did they do it?

>>64072959
>Balearic slinger
>M134 gunner
>Both cast lead into the air

Forgot Centurion

>>64076893
>Also gehen drei Husaren, ein Kürassier und ein Typ mit einer Baskenmütze in eine Bar und der Barkeeper sagt...

>>64077103
>black OPFOR jumpsuits
slop
>Circle Trigonist drip
soul

>>64080692
>Like why would you ever get out of the tank.
You generally keep putting shells into a disabled enemy tank until there's a visible fire or something explodes or it's otherwise very obviously 100% for sure dead. So if it's your tank that gets knocked out, you might decide it's safer to get the fuck out of it.

>>64083148
Who would win?

>>64085847
The Challenger 2 wasn't really particularly influential and was actually pretty mediocre and significantly worse than the Abrams and Leo 2, it mostly existed to keep the British MIC for armored vehicles afloat. The Brits did create the original Mark I which paved the way for what was the first modern tank

>>64072653
some dude posted an offroader drone that had a gatling gun on it. each wheel was attached to a robotic arm that allowed it to act like one long ass lever suspension to rock climb while blasting people. god i wish i saved that pic it was sick.

>>64072327 (OP)
And I thought Mark was fuckhuge...

>>64089330
They're tiny inside, I banged my head several times in a Mark IV

>>64089051
>Perde brauchen doch gar keinen Tank!

>>64089162
I was talking about the Mk. IV that started it all and the Centurion, which is either the father of the MBT or "just" an excellent tank depending on how you look at the various advanced medium tanks other major armored forces came up with around that time

>>64089513
>either the father of the MBT or "just" an excellent tank depending on how much of a wehraboo or tankie you are
FTFY

>>64085847
Basically spend all the money on ships and planes leaving nothing left for tank development in terms of resources.
Even then though they did have a huge influence inter-war even if they didn't adopt a whole bunch of said designs.
Carden Loyd basically was the template of all tankettes that you saw throughout the war.
Vickers 6-ton was copied by everyone as the basic ass light tank.
and the Vickers A1E1 was copied by everyone who thought multi-turreted tanks were a good idea.

Post WW2 the Centurion and Scorpion were highly influential and popular but after that yeah, trash.

>>64083107
AFAIK Abrams along with many other US vehicles are painted in the most deathly toxic paint known to man that is very durable but has to be applied in a sealed air-scrubbed chamber and 99% of the time they can't summon enough fucks to give to change the paint between theaters.

>>64081114
Please go back

>>64082069
>>64082089
>>64082107
>>64082118
>>64082128
Slovenia mentioned! Those are M84's, local variant of the T-72 built entierly in Yugoslavia, and they have some pretty modern FCS systems, superior to soviet ones at least. Also exported to Kuwait where they fought on the same side with the Abrams in the gulf war and likewise performed admirably in firing excercises. Always found it funny how NATO likes to use them as the baddies in excercises.

Never expected to come across this. Your opinion on working with the slovene army? There's a lot of money being dumped into it right now. Hilariously I've also seen a study conducted by the MoD on the potential to modernize the M84's which is a bit of a joke but its out there. Considering we were modernizing the T-55's into M55's in the 90's it checks out.

>>64090700
They're fun to be with, they certainly know how to live it up in the field. While everyone else sleeps in their vehicles, like I mentioned before, they instead all sleep in a massive tent together and stay warm and dry.
They also love their coffee and field cooking. Lots of cheeses and smoked meats to be had (and occasionally some vodka)
They perform very well in my opinion, especially considering the communication limitations they have with both us and themselves. I'm always happy to have them attached to us; they don't have any night fighting capabilities (no NVGs or thermals) so they simply refuse to fight or move at night, which I never mind because it means no damn night missions and I can get a decent night's sleep.

>>64091181
>They also love their coffee and field cooking. Lots of cheeses and smoked meats to be had (and occasionally some vodka)
Sounds about right.

>>64079323
Don't know if I can think of any tanks without at least 2 guns

>>64072327 (OP)
Long way... down.

What sort of madman thought doing pic related was a good idea?

>>64072676
>>64073003
AI slop

>>64093514
Yugoslav partisans did something similar, mounting a 75mm pak on a stuart.

They were rugged tanks for what they were.

>>64093514
>>64094711
Everyone did that at some point.

>>64093514
he cute

Welcome back /thg/ if only for a moment

>>64080692
>Like why would you ever get out of the tank.
To die with some honor in combat with your racially inferior enemy. You wouldn't understand

>>64072327 (OP)
>>64072653
spidertank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2MVaLEEnLs

>>64094732

there was some even closer divergent evolution with the Marder I since the free french tried to do the exact the thing with the Lorraine 37L as the germans did but they used a British 17 pounder. Sadly the allied Marder didn't work out even though it would fit right in with stuff like the Valentine Archer.

Even more comically both the Free French and Germans tried to turn the Renault UE artillery tractor into an SPG with the germans using a Pak 36 and the Free French using a 6 pndr. Both were so massive the crew had to dismount and fire it using a pull cord.

In the muck muck buggy shitty fort Hood training area

My napping set-up during the day way back when I was a loader

Platoon services

Got to poke around some Slovakian BMP-2s and yep, they're very small. I couldn't sit in the back, period.
One of the tank commanders in my platoon at the time was a Slovakian who immigrated over as a child not long after the fall of the wall. Joined the US Army in 2001, was there for the invasion of Iraq, did 10 years in the US Army, got bored, and decided to get out and go back to Slovakia. Got there and realized he didn't know anything else, so he joined the Slovakian Army and ended up on BMPs. Did that for 6 years, then decided to come back to the US Army. Hell of a story, hell of a guy, always with the most insane stories to tell. I miss him.

When we got to the base in Slovakia (Lešt, I think?) our resident Slovak still knew a bunch of the Slovakian troops there from his time in the army. He let one of the drivers in our platoon drive around a BMP-2, which I don't think I thought I've ever hear in the US Army.
Loved Slovakia, was a great time and great training.

>>64093514
Literally everyone
>just put the gun on the deck
May suck compared to purposed built vehicles and conversions but it beats towed guns
If you want an example of absolute garbage SPA look no further than the Bishop, the shitbox they put on top of it was so poorly designed it cut the gun's range significantly because it just couldn't elevate enough.

>>64072327 (OP)
>mfw the grandson starts talking about his skibidis and ohios again

>>64090551
No. CARC isn't any different from any other paint really. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHW2tXuoKR0

>>64083911
I miss the army so goddamn much.

>>64097746
>I miss the army so goddamn much.
I take that back. I still hate the fucking army, I miss my guys.

>>64097368
Archer. The front is to your left.

>>64097757
Archer may sound stupid but it did its job well
Remember, for the most part self propelled artillery's purpose was supposed to be just that: artillery that can get get into and out of position on its own
Even more so with the British who put them under their artillery branch

>>64097194
Slovenian M-84, nice.

>>64090700
Kaka budala si ti, kek.

Posting the pic of that one tank that anon likes.

>>64082112
You look like Miles Teller and it seriously fucked with me because I watched the new top gun and the gorge recently.

>>64072327 (OP)
Indeed

Bump

>>64083113
>majority
Retarded, ESL or just seething?