Thread 64119668

is it possible to even break a hi-point?

>>64119668 (OP)
So, did the warranty got accepted?

>>64119668 (OP)
yes, they break pretty easily.
their warranty center is amazing though, truly the best in the industry and I dont say that lightly.
my buddy and I bought one to beat up and every single time we broke a part on the gun we just emailed them and sent a photo of the broken part, it was shipping out priority mail the next day. Every fucking time.

>>64119668 (OP)
Yes very. Getting bullets stuck in the barrel and not exploding is the one thing direct blowback guns do well. Every other scenario for a hipoint is fairly bad as it's just not that well made. Now for the money it's a great gun, it's just not a lot of money, hipoint doesn't lie about what it is.

>>64119668 (OP)
>35
did he reload?

>is it possible to even break a hi-point?
>image of a barrel that has been removed and cut lengthwise
uhhh yeah that one probably doesn't work now

>>64119734
>hi-point owner
>fired 35 times before realizing he wasn't hitting anything

>>64119810
actually it looks like the squib stack almost reached the chamber so it's possible the carbine just refused to close the bolt fully and wouldn't fire instead.

What most people say is the pistols are solid for what they are but the carbines don't meet the same standard

Retard strength

>>64119668 (OP)
this makes me feel better about myself
i may be dumb but damn im not that retarded

>>64120196
It was always the opposite
Carbines are a good deal and fun to shoot
Pistols are only good for a meme or committing a crime and throwing out
Not because they don't work, but because they suck in every other way possible

>>64120196
Both work okay. They tend to like hotter ammo, so don't feed them el-cheapo aluminum cased garbage loaded to minimum pressure specs, if you do you'll get fuckloads of jams.
But both the carbines and the pistol are bottom of the barrel trash in all aspects except for reliability, which is decent. Mechanical accuracy is surprisingly good too, thanks to the fixed barrel blow back operation.

The main issue with the carbines, other than the awful trigger, is that they use low capacity single stack mags, and aftermarket 'stendos cause all kinds of jams.
Any other 9mm carbine that takes proper double stack mags is head and shoulders above the Hi-Point carbine due to this feature alone.

>>64119668 (OP)
I thought this picture was actually an intentional tourture test

>>64120196
No one has ever said this
Their carbines are kind of crappy but absolutely unchallenged at their price point, especially now that hi point finally released a factory stendo
The pistols, while still the best of the absolute bottom of the barrel are now lapped by guns only a little more expensive.
This is especially bad because after taking forever to release the yeet cannon the new mags hold a grand total of two extra rounds. Fantastic.
But ZOMG threaded barrel and optic mounting for the valuable and large shitpost gun market
The 10mm is still the cheapest way to get into the caliber for what that's worth I guess.
I feel bad for hi point because I like what they stand for and for their unorthodoxy but they're flagging

>>64119690
I'd be willing to bet my left nut they covered it.

>>64121790
At this point hipoint should make a yeet cannon 2 version of a Glock gen3. Take the styling from the prototype of the slide and grip profile, even as far as having conventional grip panels, but lean on the gen3 market for parts and engineering. Unless they can get the yc2 out the door at <$199 PSA and the others that copied them filled the niche they took to long to capitalize on of a good shooting, mechanically reliable gun with aftermarket at a price to kill Taurus and kahr in their entirety.

>>64119668 (OP)
How does that even work? How does it happen?

>>64121948
As >>64120583 said, they like hotter ammo due to being straight blowback. Shoot Grandpa's limp-dickin' cold loads in them and you get that.

>>64119668 (OP)
Hipoint thread?

I was pleasantly surprised with how well this big piece of shit functioned. Still need to try it suppressed

>>64122264
Wait, they put a grip safety on the YC9!?
>Still need to try it suppressed
Curious if it will need a booster.

>>64119734
There isn't a 35 round mag for those, so yeah.

>>64122264
Every time I see their new logo all I can think is that it looks so much like a vintage tool maker's logo (~1920s). I forget which brand it is; I think I have a socket set by them. Honestly it's probably why I spent the $3 on the set in the first place. Something just told me that logo looked so familiar (and it was a handy little set when paired with a ratchet wrench).

>>64121868
From looking around it seems the YC9 is hovering around $200 online. So not great not terrible give there's a good handful of better guns even that cheap.
As for throwing their hat in the gen 3 ring I don't think it's a bad idea if they can pull it off, and that's a big if given their razor thin margins and hyper specialized supply chain and tooling both of which they recently spent money and time expanding to make the retarded YC9
But hey maybe that could just outsource it like they likely did their ar15 .
An unenviable position but not disastrous, yet
If hi point is in fact making their AR internally that'd speak to their potential.
All and all

>>64121868
From looking around it seems the YC9 is hovering around $200 online. So not great not terrible give there's a good handful of better guns even that cheap.
As for throwing their hat in the gen 3 ring I don't think it's a bad idea if they can pull it off, and that's a big if given their razor thin margins and hyper specialized supply chain and tooling both of which they recently spent money and time expanding to make the retarded YC9

But hey maybe that could just outsource it like they likely did their ar15 .
If hi point is in fact making their AR internally that'd speak to their potential.
An unenviable position but not disastrous, yet.
At least their carbines are still hard carrying

>>64119668 (OP)
If they make a Glock mag PCC I would buy it

>>64123039
I miss the goofy old one.
The new one and the new font seem kind of tryhardy

>>64122264
You should get a c9 if you find one extremely cheap (not hard to do) and do a comprehensive comparo

>>64122264
>>64124102
Yeah when they changed it I was a bit sad; old one had some nice style (and I'd love that on their new AR rather than the new logo). Found the pics I took of my wrench set before I restored it and looked up the company; Hi-Point's new logo is basically the ~1920s Hinsdale Mfg co. logo with more of a modern angular look rather than rounded. Pic from Alloy Artifacts for reference.

>>64119668 (OP)
i bought my hi point 995 in 2001 and have never cleaned it

>>64127086
Pretty sure the manual has a line about "just use more oil lmao" on it after explaining disassembly because they know it's annoying and their clientele

>>64122489
>Curious if it will need a booster.
It won't. If anything straight blowback guns cycle slightly harder when you slap a can on them.
No need for a Nielsen device, just slap a 9mm carbine can on that bitch and she'll eat.

>>64119668 (OP)
gotta keep your bioweapon attachments indestructible

>>64120196
The carbine is literally a blown up version of the pistol.

>>64122264
Are the new 10 round mags any quality than the old ones? The crappy mags have always been hi point's achillies heel.
And is the extra capacity achieved through a simple extension or staggering?

I thought hipoint would go out of business cause of PSA but their dagger and warranty service sucks compared to hipoint. My old c9 had a problem with the firing pin and they sent me 2 spares no questions asked. Worked upsettingly well and gave it to my dad when I stopped being a poorfag but now I kinda miss it. It just fucking worked for a 19 year old who wanted to make holes in paper and not have to dick around with anything. Just a solid heinous meme of a gun, and it's awesome they are a company that knows their place and leans into the memes. God bless hipoint, they're like the exact opposite of Sig

>>64131478
What's wrong with PSA's warranty?
Even cheap as it is the dagger isn't same bracket as the hi point unless there's some insane sale I haven't heard of or you're getting severely ripped off by whoever's selling you the hi point.

>>64133322
I RMA'd my gun and now it has more problems besides improper battery/lockup and light primer strikes on blazer/federal 115gr. I ordered a different barrel and striker cause I don't want to wait another month and it still chokes every 3rd mag. Maybe I got a lemon but I'd go either poverty hi point or Glock in the future. I think the average dagger consumer doesn't shoot enough to see the QC isn't there yet or is more concerned with ricing it out to show off on Reddit. I wanted to like it so bad but it probably needs a few more years for whoever is building them to get the tolerances and QC right.

>>64133461
Tbh with the rugpul coming out the dagger is a lot less appealing outside of sales

>>64131478
Once hi-point liberates itself from the constraints it has set in place over fears of being deleted by the ATF and coastal states, it will reign supreme.

Wristlets be damned. I want a double stack JH-45

https://www.genitron.com/Handgun/Hi-Point/Pistol/JH-45/45-Auto/Variant-1

>>64119810
I had a T/C Contender that I suddenly couldn't find where I was hitting the target with. It was a 45/70 barrel. After a few tries to at least get on paper, I finally figured out that the screw for the vertical adjustment on the rear site had snapped off from the recoil. I was lobbing those artillery rounds over the horizon. Hope nobody got hurt.

>>64119668 (OP)
Unironically impressive.
Most US made guns can't handle a single squib and blow right up.
Totally unthinkable in europe thanks to german autists demanding Geschossvorlagenfähigkeit (ability to simply push out a squib in the barrel with the next round, yes ofc we have a word for that) for their military procurements.
Hi-Points might be the most solidly engineered US guns desu.
Maybe due to the simplicity of the design.

>>64124102
As far as I know, the YC9 is basically just a facelift with a better magazine capacity. The gun is the same brick on cheap plastic, with the option for a light, optic, and threaded barrel

>>64131425
It’s not just an extension. They are staggered now. The magazines are okay

I appreciate hipoint as a company. They make reliable trash and they know it. Someone put their hipoint in an oven and hipoint replaced the gun. Their lifetime warranty is unmatched

>>64134162
I don't think hi point went with single stack solely to dodge restrictions.
That's more of a happy accident.

It really comes down to the bulk issue and clashing with HP's ultra cheap and extremely risk adverse business model. They were already making single stack mags, they worked (most of the time), they were extremely cheap to make and people were buying the guns.
In their mind double stack probably wasn't worth the headache back then.
But now they have a good reason to reevaluate with competition getting a lot stiffer and they're trying to answer at their trademark glacial pace.

Remember, it took them over a decade after fucking IV8888 made a 10mm hi point out of one of their .40 guns for them to release a proper 10mm hi point pistol

>>64134447
>The magazines are okay
I'm not sure what your personal standard for "ok" is but if it's anything like mine that's a big improvement and great to hear
The classic hi point mags, as I knew them in my 995TS and from what I've heard from others are really kind of bad.
Not ruins the gun bad, sure but when you have to essentially give anyone you recommend hi point to a disclaimer about the garbage mags and how best to work around their shittiness it casts a long shadow.
Probably about half or more of the reliability issues owners complain about stem from those god awful, finicky mags.

>>64134514
I’m just comparing to normal magazines, like Glock mags.

As far as I know, the longest part of development for the updated YC9 was getting the double to single stack mags to work consistently, which they achieved. They are unremarkable, but that’s probably a good thing. I can’t remember any significant malfunctions with the hipoint that were caused by the mags

>>64134582
>I’m just comparing to normal magazines, like Glock mags.
Well then wow, significant improvement has been made.
That alone is the biggest selling point for the YC9 I've heard yet. Good on you, hi point.
Though I can see how it would be pretty impossible to advertise "Now with magazines that don't suck!" especially when all of your other guns use the older, sucky magazines.
Still bravo, a big step in the right direction for them.
And who knows maybe current year hi point single stacks suck less too. I haven't owned one for like 8 years.

>I can’t remember any significant malfunctions with the hipoint that were caused by the mags
The older mags, even when properly QC'd needed breaking in to run properly when fully loaded. At least in the carbine. But given the carbine mags are just long c9 mags I doubt the apple falls far.
There is (or maybe was) significant QC issues too with a lot of lemon magazines out there and flimsy, easy to bend feed lips to boot
Credit where credit is due, hi point happily replaces bad magazines under warranty, often sending back more mags than you sent in. Which is pretty cool of them.
Someone could cynically call this just throwing magazines at the problem but you'd have to have terrible luck not to come out ahead in functional magazines.

>>64119668 (OP)
Certified straight blowback moment