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Anonymous No.64443453 [Report] >>64443479 >>64443491 >>64443526 >>64443560 >>64443747 >>64443804 >>64443907 >>64443968 >>64443977 >>64444271 >>64444637 >>64451375 >>64451917 >>64457943 >>64470662 >>64478116 >>64478131 >>64478152 >>64478169 >>64479520 >>64479846
Why does SIG USA suck compared to regular SIG?
Anonymous No.64443479 [Report] >>64443539 >>64443907 >>64444271 >>64448444
>>64443453 (OP)
picrel
Anonymous No.64443491 [Report] >>64443907 >>64484063
>>64443453 (OP)
sig USA makes weak shit, their rifles kinda suck balls and have nothing to do with the awesome rifles out of swiss arms. Also, they have a nasty habit of cancelling their rifles at the drop of a hat.
Anonymous No.64443526 [Report] >>64443907
>>64443453 (OP)
low QC
also poor designs beta tested on clients and also changing the designs without telling the customer what exactlt was changed, look at the mpx line they have changed it many times but there are no clear guidelines what parts fit what guns
you may buy a new part for old gun or vice verse and shit just wont fit
Anonymous No.64443528 [Report] >>64443902 >>64443908 >>64444292
For like 20 years, they've been run by the guy who ran Kimber into the ground. Though its worth noting San Swiss arms is practically a zombie company, just kept alive by its Swiss army and euro police contracts. They remind me of Steyr in the sense that there is zero innovation on old designs, the only new parts they produce are those designed by SIG USA, like MCX stocks retrofitted to 552s or the 553R. Everything else is the same shit from the 90s, which I get is desirable to some civilians but is simply not competitive in the modern market. Thats not to say they're bad or have the same sketchy behaviour or QC issues as Sig USA, but they've got their own problems and if the Swiss army goes through with buying LMT ARs like they've said they will, I don't think San Swiss will exist in a decade.
Anonymous No.64443539 [Report] >>64443554 >>64443899 >>64443908
>>64443479
fpbp, also Indians. Do they still import SG 550s to the US?
Anonymous No.64443554 [Report] >>64443612 >>64443950
>>64443539
We haven't had those things in decades sadly
Anonymous No.64443560 [Report]
>>64443453 (OP)
Tl;dr: Jews
Long Version: Jewish standard operating procedures.
Anonymous No.64443612 [Report] >>64443813
>>64443554
They still do, just in limited numbers and high prices
Anonymous No.64443747 [Report] >>64443759 >>64443790 >>64444386 >>64446384
>>64443453 (OP)
Because they're a bunch of hicks trying to larp as higher IQ European engineers. The current US gun industry is just some guys that like guns and thought they could do it as a business, the European gun industry is guys that don't really like guns as a hobby but are trying to engineer something as advanced as possible mostly for the sake of pride. Here their subsidiaries just make clones, maybe with a few tweaks here and there. In Europe they make new and advanced weapons platforms altogether.

The US also has a culture of cheapness. They stick a factory in bumfuck shitholeville where they can operate tax free and hire low wage workers who couldn't assemble a box correctly. They use cheap materials and skimp on quality features. FN USA is the same shit, they're not Belgian engineers they're a bunch of trash people in the south who's genetic ancestors got kicked out of Europe and enslaved in the colonies to do agricultural work because they were dull and low class. They don't care about making high precision machines, they just like shooting skeet and want to make a quick buck churning out cheap shit that pertains to their hobby.
Anonymous No.64443759 [Report]
>>64443747
This was also apparent with Kalash USA.

>we're gonna build an American AK, same as the Russians, look at this cool marketing with guitars and expired pornstars!
>woops we tried to sneak a cast trunnion by ya
>woops we tried to sneak more cheap-outs by ya
>woops more cheaping out made our product total trash
>woops we went bankrupt and kept all money from unshipped orders
>we're goin ta Vegas!
Anonymous No.64443790 [Report] >>64443822 >>64444294
>>64443747
>Here their subsidiaries just make clones, maybe with a few tweaks here and there. In Europe they make new and advanced weapons platforms altogether.
Do they? Neither the SCAR nor 416 would exist without Americans demanding their existence. H&K would never have made a piston AR without the Socom contract, and however you feel about the SCAR being overpriced or having a reciprocating charging handle, its FN USAs homework that every other modern non-AR is copying (including H&Ks new rifle). Idk what advanced platforms you're referring to, it seems to me like the US is the main driver of innovation in small arms.
Anonymous No.64443804 [Report]
>>64443453 (OP)
Grail gun sexo alert.
Anonymous No.64443813 [Report] >>64443849
>>64443612
I just looked and there actually is one on gun for like 1500, which seems cheap.
Anonymous No.64443822 [Report] >>64452394
>>64443790
the US *military* drives innovation. most civilians just buy what's cheapest, which is why we have so many shit gun manufacturers.
Anonymous No.64443849 [Report] >>64443889
>>64443813
You are probably looking at a SIG 556 which is the US made one that has a different lower and takes AR mags, its basically a new rifle. The SIG PE90 is the actual imported SG 550
Anonymous No.64443889 [Report]
>>64443849
Ah yeah youre right. Looks like Atlantic has the real deal for the low low price of t grand
Anonymous No.64443899 [Report]
>>64443539
SAN IMPORTS 553S OR SOMETHING AS PISTOLS
Anonymous No.64443902 [Report] >>64474977
>>64443528
There is really not a whole lot to modernize on the SG series. You could probably make it a little lighter or add a monolithic top rail or something but overall any improvements would be relatively minor. The difference between a firearm of the SG550 era and now is overall extremely small, just handguards and barrel length more or less.
Anonymous No.64443907 [Report] >>64443908 >>64443910 >>64446805 >>64462000
>>64443453 (OP)
>Why does SIG USA suck compared to regular SIG
>>64443479
>picrel
>>64443491
>sig USA makes weak shit
>>64443526
>low QC


SAMEFAG
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F
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It's really pathetic to be this much of a loser.
At least the anti-Sig fag hasn't killed his(her) self yet.
Say strong little dude(chick)
Anonymous No.64443908 [Report]
>>64443907

>>64443528
>For like 20 years, they've been run by the guy who ran Kimber into the ground.
>>64443539
>fpbp
Anonymous No.64443910 [Report] >>64443913
>>64443907
you're a nigger
Anonymous No.64443913 [Report] >>64443919
>>64443910
>being so fucking pathetic and lame as to hang out and get alert about all your posts.

FAGGOT SAID WHAT?
Anonymous No.64443919 [Report] >>64443925 >>64443929
>>64443913
you're just mad I proved you wrong immediately. eat shit and die.
Anonymous No.64443925 [Report] >>64443929
>>64443919
E.V.E.R.Y.O.N.E. knows that anyone can edit the "(you)"
ONLY a spammer like yourself would care to pretend.

Enjoy your next ban, Anti-Sig faggot
Anonymous No.64443929 [Report] >>64443944 >>64480800
>>64443925
>>>64443919 (You)
>E.V.E.R.Y.O.N.E. knows that anyone can edit the "(you)"
in a minute? you're grasping at straws.
Anonymous No.64443944 [Report] >>64443955 >>64443962
>>64443929
>if I keep refuting, regardless of the truth, I win...
Anonymous No.64443950 [Report] >>64444195 >>64444915
>>64443554
they're imported, just be prepared to wait 6-12 months.
Anonymous No.64443955 [Report]
>>64443944
what took you so long? did you need to get a new script from your handler?
Anonymous No.64443962 [Report]
>>64443944
Kys, sigger
Anonymous No.64443968 [Report]
>>64443453 (OP)
because it's all about making profit instead of purpose, which is why the P320 and M7 spear are shit
Anonymous No.64443977 [Report] >>64444199 >>64444340 >>64444854 >>64461976
>>64443453 (OP)
Curious how many people on this board even own anything Swiss?
Any 55X/75X owners?
>suissefags and milsurp don't count
Anonymous No.64444195 [Report]
>>64443950
where the fuck do you get mags for sg?
Anonymous No.64444199 [Report]
>>64443977
>milsurp don't count
:(
Anonymous No.64444271 [Report]
>>64443479
>>64443453 (OP)
(((Cohen)))
Anonymous No.64444292 [Report] >>64444403 >>64445198
>>64443528
>For like 20 years, they've been run by the guy who ran Kimber into the ground
cohen came in because they were bankrupt homie. anyway, the owners are germans and they don't care because they are le heckin' based germanarinos and some other shit.

also
>sig usa
all the sig family companies are owned by the same two krauts. differentiating them is meaningless.
Anonymous No.64444294 [Report] >>64452410
>>64443790
the p226 and every sig handgun after it was designed in the us i believe
Anonymous No.64444340 [Report] >>64444642
>>64443977
i had a 553 but sold it because it was retarded
Anonymous No.64444386 [Report] >>64446384 >>64456126 >>64474754
>>64443747
By translating the snobbish cocksucking sounds in this post the real message is revealed
>American companies have to build their own factories anew and buy machinery & whatever willing labor force they can afford because they aren't state arsenals
>American companies need to outsource shit they can't just do inhouse because they aren't state arsenals
>American companies need to turn a profit and meet deadlines or go under because they aren't state arsenals
Anonymous No.64444403 [Report]
>>64444292
>differentiating them is meaningless.
No it isn't?
SIG germany has been dead for 15 years, swiss SIG does next to nothing and SIG US produces mainly shit.
The owners are just investors interested in skimming of profit.
Anonymous No.64444637 [Report]
>>64443453 (OP)
>how does Sig USA compare to Sig Original Formula?
Irrelevant. It’s American so you have to hate it more, just like Beretta USA and CZ USA. Anything that is built in Europe is a magical wonderwaffen with no downsides or compromises made.
Anonymous No.64444642 [Report]
>>64444340
Yeah. It’s like buying a Marlin model 60 when the Ruger 10/22 exists.
Anonymous No.64444854 [Report] >>64448444 >>64484063
>>64443977
At your service.

In addition to the 550, 553, and P220 pictured, I also have a P210 and 510 but apparently milsurp doesn't count. I guess for that matter, just ignore the P220 since it is surplus.

I can tell you from experience, the Swiss P210 and 55x series are lightyears better than the American shit versions. The P220 I have doesn't feel materially different than older P226s I have handled, its literally the same only shittier since single stack.

The Sig 550 was once the best assault rifle ever made, but A, its not worth $10k+ US collectors market prices, and B, the AR15 aftermarket has eclipsed the Sig 55x so much, its really not worth paying 5x considering the MSRP in switzerland is about 4000 USD (same as their import price).

I think the biggest thing the 550 series still has going for it compared to an AR is the integrated bipod on the 550, which folds away really nicely and flush with the bottom of the handguard to not be cumbersome while holding the handguard with it folded, and the fact that they have folding stocks, which makes a bigger difference on a 553 since you can effectively halve the length of the gun when you fold it.
Anonymous No.64444915 [Report]
>>64443950
What suppressor on p90 and the one on the sg?

Perfect match aesthetically.
Anonymous No.64445198 [Report]
>>64444292
>the sig family companies are owned by the same two krauts. differentiating them is meaningless.

true but the anti-sig schizo starts these threads anyways
Anonymous No.64446384 [Report]
>>64443747
All 100% true.
This behavior is driven by cheap fuck US buyers more than anything else, who would sell their soul to save $3 on a plastic bucket and see it as a virtue.
>>64444386
Asspained southern retard detected.
Anonymous No.64446805 [Report]
>>64443907
moron defeding a p320 handgreande
Anonymous No.64446981 [Report] >>64446986 >>64449894 >>64451564
>Acquire P320 and ammo ~ $750
>Make video clearly showing malfunction ~ FREE, you do have a phone, right?
>Hire law firm to sue Sig ~ FREE up front but they get a % of the settlement
>Send P320 to lab to recreate obvious flaw
>Sig sends P320 to lab to verify flaw
>Become millionaire

Why haven't more anons done this?
Sure sounds like free money to me.
Anonymous No.64446986 [Report]
>>64446981
Sue them for what?
Anonymous No.64448444 [Report] >>64451325
>>64443479
It's this, and after 2008 whatever this nuSIG sells as that brand here in United States is total garbage.

>>64444854
Mostly what this anon said. nuSIG (the corporate takeover) has little to do with what happened to the Stgw 90, it was kaboshed by Bush's import ban in 1989 otherwise there'd be a lot more of them stateside had they been procured and sold throught the 1990s — additionally was the 1994 AWB but that's a separate issue and topic *inside of the U.S.*, nothing to do with imports. Point is: if in an alternate timeline there had not been the '89 ban and also if the 90s AWB had not occurred the actual Swiss 550 would be more prevalent as a semiauto mil pattern rifle. It is as PE 90 somewhat in Canada, but now thanks (again) to their own government they are screwed
nice pic anon
Anonymous No.64449894 [Report] >>64452434
>>64446981
>Why haven't more anons done this?

some have tried but none have cashed a check
Anonymous No.64451325 [Report] >>64452306
>>64448444
PE 90 is still imported to the US, just in very scarce numbers
Anonymous No.64451362 [Report] >>64451564
I'm thinking of getting a job there
Pays well for the area, plus heavily discounted guns (lmao) and ammo, plus free training courses at their firearms academy
The workplace reviews aren't great, lots of claims of nepotism and toxicity, but what else is new
Lots of machinists are boomer/xer whiny entitled emotional alcoholic crybabies though
Anonymous No.64451375 [Report]
>>64443453 (OP)
SIG DEEZ NUTZ
Anonymous No.64451437 [Report] >>64451542 >>64457909
hey guys can i join the thread
Anonymous No.64451542 [Report]
>>64451437
Looks like gay galil
Anonymous No.64451564 [Report]
>>64446981
You have to also suffer injury to sue. After you add >shoot your dick off
It's not hard to understand why more people aren't doing it.
>>64451362
The area is also very expensive and sig gets the leftovers. Everyone worth a damn is either working at the ship yard or working for GD a few hours north.
Anonymous No.64451917 [Report]
>>64443453 (OP)
Nice AKs
Anonymous No.64452306 [Report] >>64455971 >>64456016 >>64456052
>>64451325
>still imported
?
clarify
when and by who
Are you talking about some special arrangement made by several individual owners/purchasers i.e. 1 or 2 persons inside of U.S., per year
also did you mean people getting them from -via Canada specifically
They're not coming from Switzerland
Anonymous No.64452394 [Report]
>>64443822
This with a caveat for true sport/competition shooters. They introduced several innovations like red dot pistol sights in the '90s.
Anonymous No.64452410 [Report]
>>64444294
Nope. It was a Swiss/German collaboration. It was designed for the US XM9 competition though
Anonymous No.64452434 [Report]
>>64449894
Sig has paid millions settlements thoughbeit.
Anonymous No.64455971 [Report]
>>64452306
They are on a few websites
Anonymous No.64456016 [Report] >>64456052 >>64457853 >>64458468
>>64452306
Theyre imported through JDI Firearms.

The reason theyre so scarce is because that company is literally two boomers in their moms basement.

They only accept orders through customers replying to their Facebook posts asking whoever wants preorders of so and so. Because they do literally no advertising or sales through their official website, very few people even know they import guns, and you cannot even ASK them to put you on a waitlist outside their fb livestreams, it takes them forever to get preorders in.

They absolutely refuse to invest more than like 20k of their own money into their business, so they can only afford to do 20-50 imports at a time and they only will import preorders, since its half up front half on sale.

It takes them 6ish months to build the preorder list, at which point they will file an ATF import permit which takes another 6-8 months for ONLY the guns on their list, and then they take their sweet time actually mailing them out, so your lead time on a gun is typically 1-2 years. Most gun importers will get an ATF approval ahead of time, and they'll put a request in for 10-100x their planned import quantity, so they can keep business flowing while they get their next approval, but JDI will only do the exact amount they are planning that one time.

The next issue is they're obsessed with importing meme versions of the 550 series. Instead of just focusing on factory original green/grey or all black color schemes, they try doing dumb decals or "russian red" "gunmetal gray" or FDE color schemes, and importing them in calibers no one asked for like x39 or .300blk. They wont even offer other options than the one or two patterns theyre trying to sell at that time. So if they want to do a run of 553 7.62x39s, they will just tell you to piss off if you want a PE90 until they want to import PE90s (maybe in a couple years, check back in on our FB XD)
Anonymous No.64456052 [Report] >>64457853 >>64483822
>>64456016
Theyre willing to make an exception to their completely asinine and bullshit process in only one case: If you, individually, have a purchase order of 50+ guns, they will import them for you. Some guys on reddit a couple years ago did this in order to get them to import 50 PE90s. It is however, obviously really difficult to get a buy list like that going considering its a no-name company asking you to front $2000 on a $4000 gun that you will recieve in 8-12 months.

I found it easier to just spend $8000 more to buy a preban on gb and not deal with JDI, honestly.

The alternative is, M+M enterprises and SIGUSA both have done import runs of 553 pistols in all black. They did that before people realised the ATF would allow pistols with >16" barrels to be imported which is how the 550s are getting in. I forgot who discovered you could do that, I want to say it was HK, but it wasnt that long ago, definitely within the last 10 years.

Overall, I think the import of SAN guns has been a failure for anyone importing them, and its unlikely to see more large batches of proper guns imported and then offered for sale on atlanticcity or something, because the guns are so expensive. Everyone wants a Sig 550, until they see the price tag. Its $5000. You could buy 10 ARs for that. So they remain a boutique item that only mom's basement shops like JDI will deal with.

While writing this post, I remembered cogunsales typically has some sig 550 products, and they seem to have a few sig 550 pistols in stock, which I'll figure they imported themselves. The point stands though, >>64452306 this anon is super excited to see they're on the market, he'll browse their website, get disappointed they actually cost money, and convince himself he'll buy it someday when he wins the lottery.
Anonymous No.64456126 [Report] >>64460160
>>64444386
A US state arsenal would be fucking insane, imagine the innovations...

Nah it would probably be a shit factory full of diversity hires.
Anonymous No.64457853 [Report] >>64458470
>>64456016
>>64456052
>JDI wallsoftext
I already knew about JDI decades ago
Anonymous No.64457909 [Report] >>64474994
>>64451437
>Primary Arms
>Magpul stock
Yeah, no.
Anonymous No.64457943 [Report] >>64478884
>>64443453 (OP)
Who other than a MASSIVE RETARD consoomer would buy anything SIG ever again after the p320?
Anonymous No.64458468 [Report]
>>64456016
That explains why I see those unsold ugly red 550s on gunbroker for 6k every time i look.
Anonymous No.64458470 [Report] >>64461991
>>64457853
they weren't importing these decades ago nigger
Anonymous No.64460160 [Report]
>>64456126
we already had one anon it led to the M-14
Anonymous No.64461976 [Report] >>64467734 >>64478124 >>64484063
>>64443977
>milsurp don't count

Hey that's not fair.
Anonymous No.64461991 [Report] >>64478888
>>64458470
Yes they were retard
1989 Bush import ban was when it stopped
Anonymous No.64462000 [Report] >>64462785
>>64443907
Kek. Keep sucking that cock, you pathetic faggot.
Anonymous No.64462010 [Report] >>64462012 >>64463234
Best of all
Anonymous No.64462012 [Report]
>>64462010
Anonymous No.64462785 [Report]
>>64462000
checked, what's funny about all the muhSIG hysterics of the past decade is that none of the simps even know what a real SIG Sauer or Swiss Arms AG is, not one
Anonymous No.64463234 [Report] >>64463239 >>64463246 >>64479503
>>64462010
Beautiful yet hideous.
Anonymous No.64463239 [Report] >>64463246 >>64478146
>>64463234
Anonymous No.64463246 [Report] >>64463518
>>64463234
this fucks hard
>>64463239
this is real gay

I wanna see a big can on the first one, what are these fuckers chambered in?
Anonymous No.64463518 [Report] >>64466103
>>64463246
going by the magazine angle it looks like an Sig Stgw. 57 chambered in 7.5×55mm swiss
Anonymous No.64466088 [Report] >>64466131 >>64467575 >>64478758 >>64484063
I just got mine today
Anonymous No.64466100 [Report] >>64466165
Man I love the swiss larp
Anonymous No.64466103 [Report] >>64470631 >>64479454
>>64463518
yeah I forgot who made the OG, it LOOKS like a Swiss gun. How is 7.5x55? any good? looks like it's just Swiss flavored .308
Anonymous No.64466131 [Report] >>64467568
>>64466088
the aluminum trigger housing ruins the entire look of these things
Anonymous No.64466165 [Report] >>64483202
>>64466100
Anonymous No.64467568 [Report] >>64467734 >>64467745
>>64466131
Its a winter trigger guard
Anonymous No.64467575 [Report] >>64478895
>>64466088
nicest looking butt of any rifle ever
Anonymous No.64467734 [Report]
>>64467568
Is there a way to lock it in place?
Mine >>64461976 moves to the side with even the slightest pressure and it's kind of annoying.
Anonymous No.64467745 [Report]
>>64467568
I'm talking about the """"lower receiver"""" retard
Anonymous No.64470631 [Report] >>64479454
>>64466103
>it's just Swiss flavored .308
yes
Anonymous No.64470662 [Report] >>64472235 >>64473036
>>64443453 (OP)
>company
:O
>company, USA
:/

Many such cases!
Anonymous No.64472235 [Report]
>>64470662
it is absolutely true in the case of SIG
Anonymous No.64473036 [Report]
>>64470662
It is true. Made in America means ugly obese race mutts came into contact with your firearm during production and shipping.
Anonymous No.64473566 [Report]
SIG PE90 is peak sexo
Anonymous No.64474754 [Report] >>64478903
>>64444386
no its that americans who aren't coastal elites are generally stupid people
the obvious explanation for this is that all the intelligent, industrious, clever, ambitious americans from flyover states simply go to college and then end up in the coastal elite through the semi-functional american meritocratic system because there is zero reason to stay in a shitty dying exurburb or rural hole if you can help it and get out
system working as intended i guess but there are obvious downsides which become apparent in situations like this. like how all high IQ americans who can do math dont do engineering and wouldn't touch manufacturing with a ten foot pole. the returns on invested capital in manufacturing are so low, it's literally a massive opportunity cost to have a high IQ person work in manufacturing. So they are are in some form of derivatives trading or they're 'cracked programmers' in some silicon valley startup instead.
not to add that the US manufacturing sector writ large has been so hollowed out that tio even approach something like first-class standards in manfacturing literally anything we'd need to basically do a meiji restoration type come to jesus moment where the state sends our best and brightest to china to learn how to actually do anything, and spend probably hundrends of billions if not trillions on some massive industrial policy / capital investment scheme. which isnt gonna happen
Anyway yeah yuropoors continue to do OK because as a traditional people who also don't have high return-on-capital industries they still have smart people who occasionally work in something pretty mid capitalism-wise like 'making small arms'. but honestly that's more of an indictment of the eurozone economy than anything else. they'd love to be trading options for ken griffin for $20MM annual paychecks if they could. but they cant, so instead they make better guns than cleetus. congratulations
Anonymous No.64474977 [Report] >>64478108
>>64443902
>Flat top receiver with flip up rear sight
>Mags that don’t fucking suck rancid fucking nigger balls and aren’t made of spun sugar glass
>SIG 556 multi-position stock that offers longer LOP
>Handguard with an actual heat shield and ergos that aren’t slim and shitty, ditch the useless bipod
>Barrel profile that isn’t fucking mid
There’s a lot you can change to better the 550. It’s honestly kinda ass and totally carried by the looks.
t.-owned a couple PE90s.
Anonymous No.64474994 [Report]
>>64457909
Magpul furniture is based. If you disagree, you’re gay.
Anonymous No.64478108 [Report]
>>64474977
>literally describes a Sig 556, even mentions it in the post
>adds a dumb retard requisite that nobody gives a fuck about (barrel profile lmao) so that he can complain without just being told to buy a Sig 556

fucking yikes bro
Anonymous No.64478116 [Report]
>>64443453 (OP)
Sig from Switzerland operates under stricter quality control standards because Switzerland has strong pro-costumer protection legislation, so they have no choice other than conform or go bankrupt due to customers going after better guns. America has extremely weak customer protection legislation, so gun companies have much more leeway on how to fuck with their customer base, before they can ever get hit with a class action lawsuit that could break their legs and force them to do massive recalls.
Anonymous No.64478124 [Report]
>>64461976
That's just the most beautiful service in the world.
Anonymous No.64478131 [Report] >>64478920
>>64443453 (OP)
American manufacturing is filled with hucksters and scammers.
Anonymous No.64478146 [Report]
>>64463239
Putting FAB defense furniture on a gun should warrant death by firing squad.
Anonymous No.64478152 [Report] >>64478171 >>64478197 >>64478217 >>64479447
>>64443453 (OP)
my favorite part about this is everyone wants an SG550. I want an SG550. But apparently people who have used them say they aren't any better than a high end AR. Like I've heard that one bong say he would rather use a national match AR for the swiss shooting matches than the sg550
Anonymous No.64478169 [Report] >>64486783
>>64443453 (OP)
Why do they have a 200 and 300 meter setting on their rifles? the 400 meter setting makes sense because they use it for shooting matches and the 100 meter is a night sight, having both 200 and 300 seems redundant
Anonymous No.64478171 [Report] >>64478197 >>64478255
>>64478152
>But apparently people who have used them say they aren't any better than a high end AR.
No one here gives a shit about that.
Anonymous No.64478197 [Report] >>64478222 >>64478255
>>64478152
>>64478171
>apparently i-it was real in my mind
Anonymous No.64478217 [Report] >>64479447
>>64478152
Between a rack M16A4 and a 550, I'm taking the 550 every time. Between a Noveske/LMT/Knights etc. I am taking the premium AR every time. There is no semi-auto rifle better than a high end AR, anyone who say different is actually retarded and a communist. The platform has been optimized 40x more than any other rifle, and that's probably low balling it. 35 years of feature creep is real, and the 55x has had basically non in that timeframe. The 55x series are about everything you could ever wish a national arsenal could make, but that means fuck all when the private market exists. Yes I have a PE90.
Anonymous No.64478222 [Report]
>>64478197
n-no u
Anonymous No.64478255 [Report] >>64478572 >>64478758 >>64479447
>>64478197
>>64478171
I'm too lazy to find the specific bong on the range vid but bong on the range lives in switzerland and said he would rather just use a national match AR for the swiss shooting matches he does.
Anonymous No.64478572 [Report] >>64478758
>>64478255
Yeah, I know which video you're talking about. But we don't give a shit about it. We want the PE90 cause it's the best looks assault rifle there is. That's just it.
Anonymous No.64478758 [Report] >>64479343
>>64478255
>>64478572
we don't give a shit because it's his opinion
man

>>64466088
checked, nice work
Is that from the 'importers' (or are you in the United States)
Anonymous No.64478884 [Report]
>>64457943
I'm not a retard who drops guns, uses the right holster, and Glocks are hot garbage.
Anonymous No.64478888 [Report] >>64478942
>>64461991
NTA but he was talking about JDI, not the SIG-550 in general.
Anonymous No.64478895 [Report]
>>64467575
NTA but honestly it is the most comfortable stock I ever shouldered. I feel I could take a nap on it.
Anonymous No.64478903 [Report]
>>64474754
>coastal elites
>smart people
>expensive, third world shitholes with the demographics to back it up
The whole country is fucked.
Anonymous No.64478920 [Report]
>>64478131
Agreed. Look at the state of AKs in this country. Fucking Chinks and Egyptian dirt farmers made better AKs when they were available.
Anonymous No.64478942 [Report]
>>64478888
checked yea ok but nobody cares about JDI
Anonymous No.64479343 [Report] >>64479434
>>64478758
US, got it from GB from a auction
Anonymous No.64479434 [Report]
>>64479343
respect, anon
Anonymous No.64479447 [Report]
>>64478152
>>64478217
>>64478255
Anonymous No.64479454 [Report]
>>64466103
>>64470631
No, it's Swiss flavored .30-06, 7.92×57 Mauser, 7.7×58 Arisaka
Anonymous No.64479503 [Report]
>>64463234
Imagine the muzzle flash.
Anonymous No.64479520 [Report]
>>64443453 (OP)
Swiss guns must not be used in wars.
Anonymous No.64479846 [Report]
>>64443453 (OP)
It's one of the ironies of the universe, the most gun-loving people with the biggest gun culture are physically incapable of making a good one.
Americans can't make guns. They just can not. All US made guns suck ass, even if importing a proven European design and manufacturing process, burgers will fuck it up.
Anonymous No.64480800 [Report]
>>64443929
>in a minute?
Just popping in to call you a retard.
Retard.
Anonymous No.64481349 [Report]
SG 750
6.5 Creedmoor
Anonymous No.64482765 [Report]
Anonymous No.64483202 [Report]
>>64466165
swiss kino
Anonymous No.64483822 [Report]
>>64456052
>they remain a boutique item that only mom's basement shops like JDI will deal with
SG 550s ought be available from every U.S. gun retailer at a competitive price to the Steyr AUG
Anonymous No.64484063 [Report]
>>64443491
this guy's picrel doesn't appear to be an aluminum lower.
Nor this >>64461976 one (apparently ex-Swiss Army)

Other userpics >>64466088 >>64444854 of recent-manufacture 55x rifles itt, appear to have aluminum lowers.
Is that what SAN / SIG Switzerland is putting out now for the 550 series?
Anonymous No.64486783 [Report] >>64487127
>>64478169
the Swiss military uses 5.6 mm Gw Pat 90 ammunition
optimized for 1 in 10" rifling
Anonymous No.64487127 [Report]
>>64486783
google says it's a 63 grain bullet going about 3,000 fps. that's like directly comparable to m193 or m855. the sights on a stg 90 are literally
>200 meters
>200 meters but peep
>300 meters
>300 meters but 6 o'clock hold
like it 100% feels like they were just like
>well the dial holds 4 positions so we might as well put a 200 and a 300 meter setting
M855 out of an M16A2/4 with a 300 meter zero is only 6 inches high at the highest point.
it's only like a 3 moa come up. the 400 meter setting is probably also a 3 moa come up because they use it to shoot at 300 meter targets that have a diameter of about 24 inches with a 6 o'clock hold.
It seems to me like it would be a pain in the ass to have a 200 and 300 m setting when you could just use the 300 m setting and aim center mass