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Anonymous No.64458278 [Report] >>64458302 >>64458598 >>64458625 >>64458628 >>64458762 >>64458779 >>64459041 >>64461972 >>64462443 >>64462688 >>64463021 >>64463060 >>64463169 >>64466404 >>64466820 >>64471278 >>64472219
Catapult
Are you team steam or team electric?
Anonymous No.64458302 [Report] >>64458347
>>64458278 (OP)
Seems like electric isn't quite there yet
inb4 china
implessive
Anonymous No.64458307 [Report] >>64463111
Carriers are outdated, and so are manned aircraft.
Just use drones.
Anonymous No.64458347 [Report] >>64458397 >>64458426 >>64458626 >>64458904
>>64458302
It's only gonna get better. It's been doing 600 launches per failure as opposed to 3200 for steam and CVN 79 should have double the reliability. We were just used to extremely high reliability.
Anonymous No.64458355 [Report]
That topic already is and will remain tainted for a few years, not worth a discussion.
Anonymous No.64458397 [Report] >>64458407 >>64464903
>>64458347
I can certainly see that on the surface the technology seems promising, but the truth is that it's really not my area of expertise so I'll just defer to the dod, executive orders notwithstanding they'll work it out eventually
Anonymous No.64458407 [Report] >>64458430 >>64458606
>>64458397
It's just damn near impossible to do a redesign of even the following CVNs that haven't been laid down yet, steel cutting has already started. If it was as bad as it was made to be then it'd be scrapped like railguns or the Zumwalt guns.
Anonymous No.64458426 [Report] >>64458446 >>64458526 >>64458542 >>64458553 >>64463924
>>64458347
That reliability is a stat that's very hard to ignore. In a real conflict with planes launching off a carrier every day that 600 mark is going to come a lot sooner than you think. Having a carrier that needs to fuck off every 6 months for lengthy contractor commissioned maintenance just isn't going to cut it.
Anonymous No.64458430 [Report]
>>64458407
The Zumwalt guns weren't scrapped, the Zumwalts themselves were, making it a waste of money to fill out their magazines. The railgun project was scrapped after the Navy decided that their goal of a 64 MJ railgun was infeasible for the reasonably near future. EMALS is somewhere between those two; it's expected to reach operating goals but it's unclear how long that will take.
Anonymous No.64458446 [Report] >>64458663 >>64458692 >>64458714
>>64458426
It's not as bad as you make it sound, but having to wait 3 hours for the flywheels to spin down to work on the system for 20 minutes every couple of weeks is definitely a problem.
Anonymous No.64458526 [Report] >>64464647
>>64458426
600 is a failure after 2 days of absolute balls to the walls 24 hour surge sorties. That's not great but it's not crippling either. For CVN 79 and the proceeding carriers, you'll run out of bombs in the magazine and have to UNREP before you hit a failure.
Anonymous No.64458542 [Report] >>64464876
>>64458426
imagine thinking you or this orange, melted brain FAGGOT, have a better idea of how the entire MIC works then people who are in it

like you don't actually think they're unaware of that limitation? are you retarded?
Anonymous No.64458553 [Report] >>64458619
>>64458426
you're a faggot and this wouldn't even be a topic of coversation if the president of the united states didn't get up in front of our navy and ramble for 4 minutes about magnets, steam, and electricity

so I'm assuming you're basing your entire argument off the fact the president doesn't like steam catapults (because someone told him to not like them) and have no actual, real input beyond what you would just google, right? like you actually think the entire Navy command structure doesn't know how it's own boats work?
Anonymous No.64458598 [Report]
>>64458278 (OP)
Catapults are obsolete. Future belongs to trebuchets.
Anonymous No.64458606 [Report]
>>64458407
Indeed, someone will find a way to just ignore the eo because it's just not sensible to change course like that in the middle of such a massive project, it might make it all the way to budgeting where the funds for such a huge refit won't be available, but I honestly doubt it'll even get there
Anonymous No.64458619 [Report] >>64458635 >>64458645
>>64458553
>not sure if trolling or genuinely mad
Have a smug face and feel better, anon.
Anonymous No.64458625 [Report]
>>64458278 (OP)
I think electric is the way to go because you can tune the acceleration curve to get as much out of it as possible without ripping the gear off.
As for why the US ditched it I think it's mainly MIC grift pricing.
Anonymous No.64458626 [Report] >>64458663 >>64458696 >>64458789 >>64458908 >>64463199 >>64463741 >>64464391 >>64464903 >>64470400
>>64458347

If what Trump said during the Washington speech is true it seems like steam should be the way to go until we fix the repair chain. He claimed that the issue is if the electric one fails you need to either send the parts to highly qualified private sector people or have them fly out to repair it, while steam catapult issues can be repaired on-ship. That's a massive flaw for electric launch in a real world scenario if true. Even if the electric launch is more efficient being able to repair it on ship makes steam better for actual war scenarios.
Anonymous No.64458628 [Report]
>>64458278 (OP)
Comedically oversized rubber bands
Anonymous No.64458635 [Report] >>64464533 >>64469770
>>64458619
You are not a magical anime girl.
Anonymous No.64458645 [Report]
>>64458619
Baka Myne
Anonymous No.64458663 [Report]
>>64458626
>If what Trump said during the Washington speech is true
It's not true. He's basing all his data from 2017 when he first started moaning about them. A repair consists of what this anon says>>64458446
Anonymous No.64458692 [Report] >>64470867
>>64458446
As an industrial electrician that has worked on flywheel presses I can't understand why you couldn't either put a brake on it or use motor braking.
This sounds like some retarded bullshit rather than reality.
Anonymous No.64458696 [Report] >>64458713 >>64458800
>>64458626
>you need to either send the parts to highly qualified private sector people or have them fly out to repair it,
That is unrelated to Steam vs EMALS but contract bond with contractors.
Should the USN remove all microwave ovens that have the same problem?
Anonymous No.64458713 [Report] >>64458756
>>64458696

Yes, of course with no question. That's a retarded thing to agree to if they have that deal with microwave ovens they should just buy other microwave ovens that don't have that insane requirement which would be a genuine hindrance in a wartime situation.
Anonymous No.64458714 [Report]
>>64458446
Well that's not awful, not ideal but not awful
Anonymous No.64458726 [Report] >>64464652
Take the L my white friends.
China MVDC system is number one of course.

We can all learn some things from these events.
Anonymous No.64458756 [Report] >>64458775
>>64458713
You can't simply do an unauthorized change by your own. It's literally illegal. The game was rigged from the start.
Anonymous No.64458762 [Report] >>64458784 >>64458830 >>64463021 >>64465045
>>64458278 (OP)
EM launch works for China. Are you seriously gonna tell me magnets are Chinese sorcery incomprehensible to the white man, just because some beaners can't pass first year engineering?

Fuck all that. Trump is a senile boomer. Yes he was mentally capable five years ago. Maybe even 1 year ago, but in the last 4-5 months he's visibly tipped over the edge.
Anonymous No.64458775 [Report] >>64458799
>>64458756

Then maybe going forward we should only do contracts that are beneficial to our military being able to preform as a military. If you don't want to allow people on the ship to do repairs then you are automatically disqualified. If liability is an issue it's a simple thing to make a note that they are not liable for any modified system
Anonymous No.64458779 [Report] >>64462413
>>64458278 (OP)
Newton
Anonymous No.64458784 [Report] >>64458790
>>64458762
It's a privatization of military contractors issue not a technical capability issue.
If a chink defence CEO tells the government his tech is proprietary and only his guys can maintain it he's getting threatened with treason, in the US he gets the contract.
Anonymous No.64458789 [Report]
>>64458626
Or we could just pay enlisted better and get quality personnel.
Anonymous No.64458790 [Report] >>64458814
>>64458784
So eminent domain it.
Anonymous No.64458799 [Report]
>>64458775
If "Right to Repair" (for the military) is actually implemented without any the usual small text to gimp it then it could be like that again, Idk if is it possible to change the contract terms of existing systems.
Anonymous No.64458800 [Report]
>>64458696
Prisons do the same thing.
Anonymous No.64458814 [Report]
>>64458790
Too anti-capitalist for current year western governments that answer to political donors.
The government needs to be the ultimate power above all others but thanks to legal donations that power has shifted to corporations.
The clearest example is how governments reacted to banks breaking the law leading to the GFC. Switzerland, Iceland & China sent banking CEOs to prison for their crimes, every other country let them get away with it.
Anonymous No.64458829 [Report]
The military needs electrical autism freaks who are able to rip apart literally anything else to patch up a critical system in a dire situation and this legal crapshit about IP rights in defense products is a shame.

Trump should EO for all of these people responsible to get branded traitors and investigated.
You hear me Trump? Do it.
Anonymous No.64458830 [Report] >>64458849 >>64468716
>>64458762
There's no evidence that China's EM catapult performs any better or is any more reliable than EMALS.
Anonymous No.64458849 [Report] >>64458855
>>64458830
>increasingly desperate Tom Clancy fan
It doesn't have the IP law issues the American one apparently does, so you're straight out wrong from the start.
It's their first one too - they're only going to get better and more numerous from here.
Anonymous No.64458855 [Report] >>64458884
>>64458849
EMALS is the first US EM catapult. They're only going to get better and more numerous.
Anonymous No.64458868 [Report] >>64458894 >>64458980 >>64461927
china launched a stealth jet using an EM catapult at sea before the US did even though the US had an EM catapult over 10 years ago
what's their excuse?
Anonymous No.64458884 [Report] >>64458980 >>64459271
>>64458855
Not if Trump gets his way, and even if someone sane stops or ignores him, the US has massively inferior ship building capability.
Anonymous No.64458894 [Report] >>64458899
>>64458868
>dipshit is forcing muh china in a post where it's irrelevant to get free anti china spammers
Fuck off well poisoner.
Anonymous No.64458899 [Report]
>>64458894
huh?? how can you even talk about EM catapults without mentioning china these days?
Anonymous No.64458904 [Report] >>64466266
>>64458347
>We were just used to extremely high reliability.
So either the technology isn't ready yet, or we're doing a major trade off for questionable reasons.
Anonymous No.64458908 [Report]
>>64458626
>If what Trump said... is true
It's not. It never is.
Anonymous No.64458980 [Report] >>64458995
>>64458868
The USN operates primarily Super Hornets, and it will be decades until the last of them are retired. There's no reason for them to rush to put brand-new fighters on brand-new carriers when each will have their own teething issues. The PLAN has two CATOBAR-capable fighters (J-15T and J-35) and both are brand new. They don't have enough of both combined to completely fill out their one CATOBAR carrier's air wing. They're operating their most recent fighters on their most recent carrier out of necessity and not because it's desirable.

>>64458884
Trump getting his way would mean cancelling the Ford class and building more Nimitz carriers. There's no way in hell that's going to happen. Even if work is temporarily delayed, the process of planning and building a carrier takes far longer than a president's term of office.
Anonymous No.64458995 [Report] >>64459032
>>64458980
The Ford is already being cancelled. You need to read the news.
Anonymous No.64459004 [Report]
I'm the team I am not competent enough to give an informed opinion on the matter.
Anonymous No.64459032 [Report]
>>64458995
It's not, but let me know when a new Nimitz gets ordered.
Anonymous No.64459041 [Report] >>64464797
>>64458278 (OP)
Neither, you of course exclusively use aircraft that don't need it. If extra lift is needed then a stiff headwind or the forward motion of the carrier will suffice.
Anonymous No.64459271 [Report]
>>64458884
Seethe and cope, chang.
Anonymous No.64461927 [Report]
>>64458868
False. China has no stealth jets.
Anonymous No.64461972 [Report]
>>64458278 (OP)
just scale up EV tech, bigger batteries and linear motors.
if consumer EVs can launch a 3 ton car 0-60 in 3.5 seconds, the tech isn't far off from launching 30 ton fighters
Anonymous No.64462049 [Report]
electric

less parts, less maintenance, less repairs, easier on the planes.
Anonymous No.64462187 [Report] >>64464931 >>64464932 >>64470578
West taiwan only has 3 catapults on their temu carrier.
1-Bravo-Foxtrot-Alpha !!tE8rqHMY/WI No.64462413 [Report]
>>64458779
Anonymous No.64462443 [Report]
>>64458278 (OP)
this isn't the catapult mechanism but the arresting gear
Anonymous No.64462688 [Report]
>>64458278 (OP)
Team trebuchet.
Anonymous No.64462982 [Report] >>64462996 >>64463049 >>64463108 >>64463892 >>64463928 >>64471982
>steamed
Anonymous No.64462996 [Report]
>>64462982
LOL the west taiwan catapult meme.
Anonymous No.64463008 [Report]
>meme'd
Anonymous No.64463021 [Report] >>64463037 >>64463049 >>64463071 >>64463117
>>64458762
>>>64458278 (OP) (OP) #
>EM launch works for China
Do they, actually? We've seen them launch two planes of questionable take-off weight (they were obviously not carrying any munitions, and I doubt they carried more than 30% fuel - just enough to launch fly the landing pattern and land right away), and we have zero idea the time interval between those two launches. Until we see verifiable data of them launching 100+ sorties per 24hrs for a week straight, at sea, with planes with 80%+ fuel and combat munitions load-out, in stressing conditions that actually mimic war time conditions and operations tempo, we don't know if their EMALs works or not. And going by the CCP's history of lying and face saving, they will keep releasing those carefully curated propaganda videos saying it's 100% perfect 100% of the time because CHINER STRONK!!, and never release the actual test and operational failure rate data, like always. Every program in Chiner is always on time, never over budget, never any development problems or delays, and works 100% perfect 100% of the time. Why? Because low IQ mongoloid NPCs like you will eat it up without any critical thought, and run around the internet screaming CHINER STRONK!! like they designed that external propaganda to do. They don't need to pay, when retards will do their shilling for them for free, all the while thinking they're so intelligent and immune to propaganda.
Anonymous No.64463037 [Report] >>64463117
>>64463021
You sound increasingly desperate. Melties are not a valid response to strategic competition.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64463038 [Report] >>64463053
2 years before we reach 100 years biplane bros, the first carrier launched attack plane was a biplane and Po-2 Chan is about to hit a century!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_seaplane_carrier_Wakamiya

>You could make an entire anime series about Wakamiya-Chan but no one has done it...

Feels bad man....
Anonymous No.64463049 [Report] >>64463117
>>64463021
>>64462982
2 retards in the same thread is too much, get a room faggots.

>the low hanging fruit poster
>the strawmanning (schizo tier) waste of time
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64463053 [Report]
>>64463038
>Be Austro-Hungarian Empire who for some reason is helping defend a Imperial German colony in the Pacific
>What in Ferdinand's name is that damn noise?
>Japs on flying machines out of nowhere
>Lol wut the fuck is going on?
Anonymous No.64463060 [Report] >>64463070
>>64458278 (OP)
I'm team on team CLEAN COAL ENGINES!
FUCK faggot ass gas diesel!!!
FUCK nuclear reactors that make our sailors GAY!!
BRING BACK COAL SHIPS PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!!
we WON TWO WORLD WARS with coal!!
we LOST EVERY WAR since crooked demofags forced the navy to switch!!
BRING IT BACK MR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MAKE AMERICAN NAVY GREAT AGAIN! MANGA!!
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64463070 [Report] >>64463082
>>64463060
You are trying too hard, it's embarrassing. Lurk moar and maybe make some friends, we can be very nice people if you aren't acting like a retard.
Anonymous No.64463071 [Report] >>64463117 >>64463126
>>64463021
I don't doubt that the Chinese EM catapult works, but the thing is that EMALS also works despite all of the chink screeching. We've seen them launch half a dozen sorties with theirs, while the problem with ours is that it has a ~600 launch MTBF. Have the chinks even used theirs 600 times? How many failures have they had? The PLAN themselves probably have no idea what their EM catapult's reliability actually is.
Anonymous No.64463082 [Report] >>64463126
>>64463070
the MANGA part didnt clue you in that I was throwing a joke?
Anonymous No.64463108 [Report] >>64463126
>>64462982
f35c program managers:
>guys how low can we set the catapult energy and still launch fighters?
chink shills:
>the wect has fallen
Anonymous No.64463111 [Report] >>64463862
>>64458307
>not using manned aircraft as a drone carrier
Ngmi
Anonymous No.64463117 [Report]
>>64463049
>>64463037
>>64463021
Everything I said is objective facts. Cope all you want, you're just mad that you're one of the low IQ mongoloid NPCs. Please explain how.l stating facts is a "melty"? And what kind of functioning adult uses the word melty? Are you 10?
>>64463071
>We've seen them launch half a dozen sorties with theirs
No, we've seen 4, 3 planes and a cart. Even half a dozen strechted out across many, many months isn't what I would consider working, nor does it prove combat readiness.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64463126 [Report] >>64463149 >>64463784
>>64463071
Anyone who needs catapults has already failed at at power projection: If you need to enforce your will you have already failed if you need a mobile airbase instead of having local allies.

>>64463082
Wait, did i miss read something? IMPOSSIBLE!

You didn't mention 'MANGA' (whatever that means) nor did you ask my opinion about coal engines, you need to be specific with me. I'm the guy who came up with the idea of the SMS Königsberg (1905) as a bi/triplane carrier.

>>64463108
Smart shills:
How do we get Kim to consider vaporizing Beijing the next time China tries to coup them or Putin doesn't pay his bills on time? And how does the USA justify paying off Kim?
Anonymous No.64463149 [Report] >>64463718
>>64463126
You sure put the tard in your name... attention whoring faggot.
Anonymous No.64463169 [Report]
>>64458278 (OP)
Anonymous No.64463198 [Report] >>64463794 >>64463909
FACTS
Anonymous No.64463199 [Report]
>>64458626
Whether it's true or not, it's not a switch that can be made overnight. Even if they started work on it tomorrow, you wouldn't see a new carrier with a steam catapult for close to a decade.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64463718 [Report]
>>64463149
Well it is obvious working, you people keep responding to me.

Happy Halloween everyone, i hope you are all having a nice evening. Have some Gadget and Ministry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0YFhoYwW6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTISF4ZwjMg&list=RDl9xGgDf0RFM&index=5
Anonymous No.64463741 [Report]
>>64458626
>If what Trump said...is true
Let me stop you there.
If you ever find yourself starting a post, or even thought, with those words then maybe don't finish.
Also re-evaluate your standards for data sources.
Anonymous No.64463784 [Report] >>64463890
>>64463126
>You didn't mention 'MANGA' (whatever that means)
Ok, you're not just old, you're actually elderly.
Anon made their post's slogan Make America's Navy Great Again.
A joke combining MAGA and Japanese comics.
Anonymous No.64463794 [Report] >>64463894
>>64463198
It's the "Taking command of the wehrmacht" point on his mental spiral.
It's only getting stupider from here.
Anonymous No.64463854 [Report] >>64464186 >>64464882
>set catapult energy
>steam
>set energy
vely implessive and smalt managel. 3 more trillions for dorrars!!!
Anonymous No.64463862 [Report] >>64468718
>>64463111
Why not use a drone as a drone carrier?
Fucking retard.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64463890 [Report] >>64464833 >>64465500
>>64463784
>Ok, you're not just old, you're actually elderly.

Yes i am that old, or at least old enough to be your real father.
Anonymous No.64463892 [Report] >>64463906 >>64463928
>>64462982
>low iq chink is still posting this
Grim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq-juyXvIcE
https://www.twz.com/33689/code-brown-as-this-f-35c-sinks-to-just-above-the-waves-after-taking-a-low-power-catapult-shot
>Something you don’t see everyday…low energy catapult launch! That sink is scary, but it was a part of the test plan. The folks at PAX River needed to find the lowest amount of energy that the catapult needed in order to safely launch an F-35C…they definitely found it! Through a smart build up and mitigation the test professionals go where others don’t
Anonymous No.64463894 [Report] >>64465508 >>64470592
>>64463794
>It's the "Taking command of the wehrmacht" point on his mental spiral.
You losers have been saying this for like 10 years.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64463906 [Report]
>>64463892
AI's are too obvious when they interject themselves into organic conversations. Stop doing that sort of thing. Now.
Anonymous No.64463909 [Report]
>>64463198
Its wild to me how the way he speaks drives you guys insane.
Anonymous No.64463924 [Report]
>>64458426
We don't need a war to launch fixed wing aircraft. That's nearly every single day on deployment.
Anonymous No.64463928 [Report] >>64463936 >>64463944
>>64463892
>during early October:
>it totally didn't happen chinksect!!!!!!!! the american catapult is stronger than famined chinks catapult
>1 week later after using google for 2 minutes: well it actually happened but it's normal, they were testing it
kys subhuman, you have no integrity, you're just posting crap without prior knowledge to reinforce your stupid mental image of reality.

>>64462982
And you can fuck off well poisoner.
Anonymous No.64463936 [Report] >>64463960
>>64463928
>low iq chink gets exposed and just starts spewing retarded shit
I accepted your concession
Anonymous No.64463944 [Report] >>64463955 >>64463965 >>64463970 >>64463972
>>64463928
>it totally didn't happen chinksect!!!!!!!! the american catapult is stronger than famined chinks catapult
yeah
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/image/G8q09yiYeruUCb3FloJUpQ/
Anonymous No.64463945 [Report] >>64463960 >>64463970
>ashually they were just testing.. hehehe

>how much steam should we inject??
kekpow
just use EMAL
oh wait
jejeje
Anonymous No.64463955 [Report] >>64463970 >>64463976
>>64463944
The chink shill fears the archive. In fact, I woudn't doubt any "it totally didn't happen chinksect!" posts if they exist are chink shill samefagging
Anonymous No.64463960 [Report] >>64463970
>>64463945
see
>>64463936
Anonymous No.64463965 [Report] >>64463982
>>64463944
From a different thread but the same video
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/64323098

#Anon that doesn't know what is he talking about:
>Reheat on a very likely unarmed plane vs dry thrust with a steam cat
Sure it is you disingenuous chinkshill

#Me
80-90% of acceleration is due to the catapult, it isn't a STO with a ramp retard-kun.
The extra acceleration due to AB is only 5%

#Ignorant post
Those are fully loaded transport numbers. The share for a fighter is 70%. 65% for an empty one.

#Me
A catapult adds 100 MJ in less than 100 m, that is 1000 kN of pulling force and it's completely unrelated to the TOW, retard.
edit: upto 100MJ*

#anon tripled down with the the dogmatism, he gives a shit about the video
Right, and they use exactly that same maxed out number every time. Would not be surprised if the chinks actually do that because they have no concept of reliability.

-------- different sub-thread
#Me
>Implying there's only one anon posting that video.
It's a good clip because makes comparisons easier, regardless your emotional reaction.
#another ignorant anon that can't use google to explain the video

It is not a good clip because it is not an honest comparison:
>F-35 clip is an older steam catapult and not EMALS
>Bow of the ship can be seen rising well above the horizon, making it appear as though the F-35 dips more than it does
This is obvious to most people who watch the clip, and is why there are not in fact many other anons spamming your implessive clip

#Me
1. That simply means Type 003 EM catapults have more pulling force than a steam catapult of an US carrier, If you wanna make comparisons with the Ford then post a clip. I'm not limiting your freedom to do it.
2. The bow only begins to move up after the F-35 is around 5 m below the deck level. You aren't making a point.

#anon deniying reality instead of using google
Holy fucking reach. This is the only clip you can come up with and you can't even definitively defend it.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64463970 [Report]
>>64463955
>>64463944
>>64463945
>>64463960

Bots like you should be ashamed of yourselves. You are being counter-productive.
Anonymous No.64463972 [Report]
>>64463944
Then finally a retarded autist was annoyed enough that instead of wasting more time like a retard tried to understand reality:
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/text/juyXvIcE/

Just don't be an imbecile.
Anonymous No.64463976 [Report]
>>64463955
there's probably a smattering of anons who noticed the pitching deck and afterburner and (correctly) pointed out that the two launches are nothing alike
not that it matters, this sort of chang chest thumping china numba wan shit only ever convinces retards, fact of the matter is that china's longest sea sortie is about six days long with two aircraft launces, and their emal catapult is only ever seen in propaganda videos
Anonymous No.64463982 [Report] >>64463998
>>64463965
imagine calling someone else ignorant when you didn't even know that the video you were posting was the navy specifically testing low energy launches
Anonymous No.64463985 [Report] >>64463996 >>64464013 >>64464115
This scares the chink shills
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64463996 [Report]
>>64463985
This makes Xi shit himself a times a week.
Anonymous No.64463998 [Report] >>64464004
>>64463982
Imagining being filtered by basic arithmetic, I always try to use back-of-the-envelope numbers instead of endless and useless "arguments".
You just have to use your brain for half a second instead of screaming because you encountered something that induces the slightest mental dissonance.
Anonymous No.64464001 [Report]
>full length
>got steamed in the process
ohnononono
Anonymous No.64464004 [Report] >>64464019
>>64463998
Ah I see. My mistake, I didn't realise that you had instantly spotted how slow the steam launch was and quickly deduced that it was a low power launch via some quick maths
Anonymous No.64464013 [Report]
>>64463985
Even a lathe scares chinks, and that's without a LiveLeak logo appearing anywhere nearby
Anonymous No.64464019 [Report] >>64464294 >>64464462
>>64464004
The quick maths was to avoid wasting time with the engine thrust point.
But then he just doubles down with that... it seems that even basic math is excessive on /k/.
And yet instead of using google he simply threw in the towel.
The other anon simply missed the point.
Anonymous No.64464115 [Report]
>>64463985
This looks wrong
Anonymous No.64464186 [Report]
>>64463854
>doesn't know people were controlling energy levels in steam before they were in electricity.

Chinese education sucks. No wonder everyone cheats.
Anonymous No.64464294 [Report] >>64464390
>>64464019
It really seems like you missed the point actually, all your maths was predicated on the F-35 launch being at max power, pretty embarassing for you desu
Anonymous No.64464390 [Report]
>>64464294
Yeah. He's just trying to weasel his way out after being exposed. Posted the disingenuous comparision footage, used the footage for his math
>It's a good clip because makes comparisons easier, regardless your emotional reaction.
>1. That simply means Type 003 EM catapults have more pulling force than a steam catapult of an US carrier
then used the math as proof that the footage he posted was correct.

That's why he's seething every times the test launch footage is posted.
Anonymous No.64464391 [Report] >>64472050
>>64458626
I mean, I think the biggest sellers of that point were bongs refusing to buy it for their brand new carriers stating as such 10 years ago tbqh.
That should have been the biggest flag
Anonymous No.64464462 [Report]
>>64464019
Dumb retard, your assumption only works at max power, which it clearly wasn't at. Chinkshills, I swear.
Anonymous No.64464533 [Report]
>>64458635
>You are not a magical anime girl.
Truly an existential pain
Anonymous No.64464647 [Report]
>>64458526
I would ask then: "Which nations can withstand the first 600 air strikes by the US Naval Aviation wing?
Since the answer is 0, the entire rate of failure is pointless.
Anonymous No.64464652 [Report] >>64468753
>>64458726
自由西藏 Free Tibet 1989 年天安门广场抗议活动 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右斗争 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大跃进 The Great Leap Forward 无产阶级文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人权 Human Rights 民主化 Democratization 自由 Freedom 独立Independence 多方制度 Multi-party system 台湾就是福尔摩沙Taiwan Formosa 中华民国 Republic of China 西藏Tibet 达赖喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法轮大法 Falun Dafa 新疆维吾尔自治区 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 诺贝尔和平奖 Nobel Peace Prize 刘晓波 Liu Xiaobo 习近平是小熊维尼 Winnie the Pooh 黑人同性婚姻 Gay marriage with other races
Anonymous No.64464797 [Report]
>>64459041
A kite dragged by a lawn mower... jesus christ.
Anonymous No.64464833 [Report]
>>64463890
Bud it's autism. This is why you get stuck on a thing, short circuit, and schitzo out. You genuinely can recover from it if you go to therapy or something.
We don't hate you we hate you when you get like that.
Anonymous No.64464876 [Report]
>>64458542
I'd argue that he has an excellent understanding of the MIC, or at least its track record. The problem is that the big contractors figured out in the 60's that while you can make money solving the government's problems, you can make a lot more money by attempting to solve the government's problems. One way to correct this is to make a credible threat to cancel the program if it doesn't get fixed.
>b-b-but we've already spent so much on it
Successful entrepreneurs understand the sunk cost fallacy. Regular people do not, which is why they're not successful entrepreneurs and fall for the clickbait criticizing this, which are written by people that also do not understand the sunk cost fallacy.
>b-b-but you can't just fix a broken program by threatening the manufacturer
It worked with Lockheed Martin, didn't it?

All that having been said, I think that he was just working the crowd here while possibly giving Newport News a nudge. Or did he actually sign that EO after he made the speech?
Anonymous No.64464882 [Report] >>64464885
>>64463854
The only thing these plane crash videos tell me is the US actually fly their aircraft.
Anonymous No.64464885 [Report]
>>64464882
Russia flies like 1x10^6 airplanes and US flies like two entire powers exponentially higher, yet ONLY double the crashes... hmmmmm.....
Anonymous No.64464903 [Report]
>>64458397
>>64458626
lmfao the absolute state of these goofy ass posts on this board is uneral
Anonymous No.64464931 [Report]
>>64462187
kys phone poster
Anonymous No.64464932 [Report] >>64465076
>>64462187
>West taiwan
most pathetic unfunny forced meme to come out of this board since the f35 tummy faggot posters

its a unique stench to this board and it stinks to high hell
Anonymous No.64464963 [Report] >>64465021
West taiwan is a funny meme in total.
Anonymous No.64465021 [Report] >>64465076 >>64465116
>>64464963
its quite possibly the most unfunny forced meme on /k/ ever and thats saying something given the f35 tummy posters from the last administration
Anonymous No.64465045 [Report]
>>64458762
Do they?
Anonymous No.64465076 [Report] >>64465100
>>64464932
>>64465021
Bait? or seething insect from west taiwan?
Anonymous No.64465100 [Report] >>64465146 >>64465149
>>64465076
tamil hands typed this post
Anonymous No.64465116 [Report]
>>64465021
West Philippine sea is even funnier cause it's geographically correct
Anonymous No.64465146 [Report] >>64465155
>>64465100
The fuck is a tamil?
Anonymous No.64465149 [Report]
>>64465100
Anonymous No.64465155 [Report]
>>64465146
a good looking, enviable chad-tier race of men from the indian subcontinent

google or grok can help you with the rest
Anonymous No.64465430 [Report]
LOL west tawian quality.
Anonymous No.64465500 [Report]
>>64463890
>Yes i am that old, or at least old enough to be your real father.
That would explain my autism then.
My father died of age related stuff so you're definitely getting on in years and should factor age related cognitive decline into your introspection and confidence in judgement.
Anonymous No.64465508 [Report]
>>64463894
It's clearly micromanaging the military. I think it qualifies.
Anonymous No.64466266 [Report]
>>64458904
technology isn't perfect yet
but it's getting better
And the Navy doesn't want new Nimitzes
the new class will be built for decades
and the catapults will get better in a few years.
You're comparing 70-year-technology optimized to the n-th degree by an Ukrainian called Zacharczenko to brand-new technology with room to grow, with Zacharczenko still leading the way.
https://www.navair.navy.mil/node/22556
>Eventually, Zacharczenko and his family made their way to New York City via a converted troop carrier ship. By then, he was 14. He graduated from high school and earned a scholarship to attend City College of New York. Along the way, he became a U.S. citizen in 1953 and said he was “proud to cast his first vote for Dwight D. Eisenhower for president.”
>Recognizing the need to minimize demand for high-pressure steam and competition with the ship’s propulsion system, in 1982 he led the development of the low-pressure catapult, the C-13 Mod 2 “Fat Cat,”
>For now, however, he is focused on ensuring the catapult’s transition from steam to electromagnetics. Although EMALS will eventually replace steam catapults on Ford class aircraft carriers, Zacharczenko said it deserved a salute.
Anonymous No.64466404 [Report]
>>64458278 (OP)
>Are you team steam or team electric?
Team Rocket
>That's Right!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtZZysFrdlw
Anonymous No.64466712 [Report]
>implessive progress for the USN
>Captain Hernandez siphons fuel because his SNAP benefit ran out
>
many such cases
Anonymous No.64466792 [Report]
>chinkshill back to wectfallen posting
>he will incessantly bump this thread for hours
grim
Anonymous No.64466807 [Report] >>64467679
West taiwan must be angy that Trump beat them.
Anonymous No.64466820 [Report] >>64468474
>>64458278 (OP)
I'm team ICCALS fuck your choices
Anonymous No.64467679 [Report] >>64467701 >>64472019
>>64466807
in what bizzaro version of the world do you NAFOturds even live lmao.
Your own regime media is bemoaning that Trump's trade war failed.
Anonymous No.64467701 [Report]
>>64467679
> NAFO
> support drumf
Bizarre
Anonymous No.64468474 [Report] >>64472724
>>64466820
>internal combustion catapults
Rickover buried them alive and they should stay buried

EMALSv2 using supercapacitors and batteries should be on the drawing board by now, unless the USNavy is asleep. The batteries might be a big challenge for damage control, though.
Anonymous No.64468697 [Report] >>64468716
I am on team railgun catapult. A railgun catapult would work under much easier conditions than a railgun gun because the "muzzle velocity" is 2-3% of a railgun and the total power involved is transmitted over a much longer period of time instead of a few milliseconds. And you dont need to build your rail to enclose a narrow projectile, you could have 1 meter between the rails so you could crank up the voltage a lot reducing amperage. And I believe this is exactly what the chinks did, which is why theirs work.

A railgun only has 1 moving part, the projectile, and there is no complex switching, there is just DC all the way. But you dont make good monies on the support contract if you make catapults that go forever without breaking. America is a victim of its own ideological derangedness where the government is a commons being gnawed down by profit driven special interests.
Anonymous No.64468716 [Report]
>>64468697
See >>64458830
Anonymous No.64468718 [Report]
>>64463862
>Why not use a drone as a drone carrier?
Anonymous No.64468753 [Report]
>>64464652
I'm not Chinese you angry yt boy, I am only paid by them. Lol.
Anonymous No.64469770 [Report]
>>64458635
Easy to remedy, next time you meet God just deny his existence to his face and when questioned, blame yourself being a masculine chad and the world not being anime fantasy for your atheism. The rest should solve itself.
Anonymous No.64469946 [Report] >>64470391 >>64470543
I am team China. The US should just stay in the steamed cuck shed and continue to drill more oil. China is an electro state. The US is a petrol state. It is how it is.
Anonymous No.64470391 [Report]
>>64469946 LOL west taiwan are the sick men of Asia.
Anonymous No.64470400 [Report] >>64470548
>>64458626
everything trump says is something he made up on the spot. he is a pathological liar.
Anonymous No.64470543 [Report] >>64470550 >>64470605
>>64469946
>China is an electro state.
China gets most of its electricity from coal.
Anonymous No.64470548 [Report]
>>64470400
Think we got a terminal case of TDS.
Anonymous No.64470550 [Report]
>>64470543
yeah, clean electric coal
Anonymous No.64470578 [Report]
>>64462187
>West taiwan
Okay, this is pretty funny lol
Anonymous No.64470592 [Report]
>>64463894
Literally nobody said that 10 years ago.
Anonymous No.64470605 [Report] >>64470853
>>64470543
>Renewable energy accounted for more than 22.4% percent of the domestically produced electric energy used in the United States in 2022, up from 12.2% in 2012.
>2011: 12.2%, 400,000 GWh
>2022: 22.4%, 900,000 GWh

>Electricity production (GWh) in China by source, 2008–2024
>2011: 17.27% renewable, 814,288 GWh
>2022: 28.73% renewable, 2,542,120 GWh
>(2024): 32.33% renewable, 3,261,760 GWh

That skill issue is not even funny.
Anonymous No.64470853 [Report] >>64470891
>>64470605
I don't see what the US or renewables have to do with most of China's electricity coming from coal.
Anonymous No.64470867 [Report]
>>64458692
>government contract
>wasn't in the initial requirements
>contractor brought it up and said brakes would cost X
>project manager saw the cost and didn't want to lose his bonus for coming in under budget
>no brakes
>two scoops
Anonymous No.64470891 [Report] >>64470940 >>64471297
>>64470853
If China with less money could add enough renewables to generate 2,450,000 GWh annually after 13 years, that is 60% of all the electricity generated by the US, what is doing the US???
And btw, they replaced all their old supercritical plants and their "coal plants" aren't of the same class as the US plants, they have effective filters and are running ultrasupercritical boilers or advanced-USC boilers. Your mental image of China is outdated by +20 years.
Anonymous No.64470940 [Report] >>64470980
>>64470891
China is moving to renewables because they don't have natural gas or oil reserves.
>B-but grorious chinknese coal plants are better than poopy burger coal plants!
Cope.
Anonymous No.64470980 [Report] >>64471006
>>64470940
They're building nuclear reactors too, meanwhile the US can't into that despite trying.
Anonymous No.64471006 [Report] >>64471015
>>64470980
The US makes twice as much nuclear power as China. I still don't get what nuclear power or the US has to do with Chinese coal reliance.
Anonymous No.64471015 [Report] >>64471030
>>64471006
>The US makes twice
For now, lets see in 5 years.
Anonymous No.64471030 [Report] >>64471036
>>64471015
Okay, hopefully by then the Chinese will have progressed past the 1800s.
Anonymous No.64471036 [Report] >>64471064
>>64471030
Nobody is forcing you to act retarded just because once again, reality proved that your nationalistic bravado is a rotten hull.
Anonymous No.64471064 [Report] >>64471108
>>64471036
>"China is an electro state. The US is a petrol state."
>China's "electro state" is powered by a energy source so undesirable that the country with the world's greatest reserves by a massive margin (not China, btw) has been moving away from it for a century
>"Actually, you're just retarded for not sucking big chinese coal"
Okay, bro.
Anonymous No.64471108 [Report] >>64471274
>>64471064
US:
3.28 PWh (2011)
4.00 PWh (2022)
China
4.71 PWh (2011)
8.85 PWh (2022)
10.10 PWh (2024)
They could add a whole US worth of electric generation, meanwhile your shithole is struggling with a stupid data centers and using gas turbines as cope generators.

Btw, they have more ambitious de-carbonization goals than the US, but I guess that a modern power grid and not depending of the energy from arabia and nigeria is less faggy and more trad. Lmao
Anonymous No.64471274 [Report]
>>64471108
I really don't see what any of that has to do with the chinkese reliance on coal
Anonymous No.64471278 [Report]
>>64458278 (OP)
I'm team let the subject matter experts do what they're meant to do instead of blindly listening to a demented pedophile.
Anonymous No.64471297 [Report] >>64471343
>>64470891
>they have effective filters and are running ultrasupercritical boilers or advanced-USC boilers.

what does that even mean
Anonymous No.64471343 [Report] >>64472288
>>64471297
Filters: Less PM and heavy metals (from power plants and blast furnaces). The minimum necessary to no kill your own people and environment but a lot of countries still don't use or turn off to reduce costs.
Ultra-supercritical just means heating steam at higher temperature and pressure (and it needs different materials for the turbine/boilers) it isn't a new invention but its commercialization is recent and a power plant using it releases 10-25% less CO2 per KWh of generated electricity. They worked alongside Japan and Germany besides basic research by themselves.
Anonymous No.64471982 [Report]
>>64462982
Something tells me that F350 is much heavier in this video.
Anonymous No.64472019 [Report]
>>64467679
>US media
>says bad things about Trump
>therefore they must be true!
QED.
Anonymous No.64472050 [Report]
>>64464391
They didn't buy steam either because they don't have the budget for anything.
Anonymous No.64472219 [Report]
>>64458278 (OP)
Team EMALS because It can even be installed onto smaller LHD/LHA
Anonymous No.64472288 [Report]
>>64471343
it looks a lot less implessive if you dont doctor the axes like that :`(
Anonymous No.64472724 [Report]
>>64468474
It can be combined with ship gas turbine propulsion via bleed gas and temperature volatility kept in check with spray injection. I understand the EMALs/electromagnetic weapon connection but those weapons aren't prevailed yet.
Anonymous No.64473194 [Report]
The military should not be allowed to run their own projects if they can't figure out how to not make retarded design decisions
Then after 20 years of development, finally admit its all fucked and can't be fixed...