Thread 40270883

Trans people have existed in every time period and every culture. We will collectively outlive our opponents.

EVERY PLACE https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/content/two-spirits_map-html/

EVERY TIME https://archive.org/details/plagueoflustbein01rose/page/210/mode/2up

>>40270883 (OP)
You can say the same thing about jews

>>40270962
le joos

>>40270962
No, you can't. Jews don't randomly spawn in any family or culture. They have to manually spread themselves across the world. They will go the way of the Zoroastrians some day, and then the way of every religion or culture that ever died out.
Trans people are even more invincible than Jews.

>>40270893
>>40270889
>>40270883 (OP)
You will never be trans.

>>40270883 (OP)
based thread
chuds will be forecfully reeducated
but there's no "cure" for our "curse"

>>40270883 (OP)
men have always have fethishes, nothing new.

trutrans trans men were forced to marry men and become birth machines while creepy fetish males were jerking off to female opression and fantasizing about being women

>>40271076
>wah wah, you have a fucking libido, so weird aa

>>40270893
>like a bad farmer he lets the rich and fertile ploughland lie untilled

>>40271087
male libido is disgusting and reason for mass rapings of children and women

>mental illness will always exist!
Wow, you just said so much. But actually, no. Bioengineering will reach a point where all children that are born will, at the very least, have no defects.

>>40271164
Only poor people have children and eugenics is icky because le nazis, we’re headed for a dark age before we even reach anyway near there

>>40270883 (OP)
>We will collectively
will you?

>>40270883 (OP)
So have heterosexuals, what is your point?

>>40271107
meds

>>40271902
Heterosexuals do not exist. Heterosexuality has to construct repressive governments to maintain its narrow understanding of sexuality, by forcing people to play along. Eventually these governments will fail and bisexual normativity will return.

>>40270883 (OP)
Chuds have existed in every time period and every culture. We will collectively outlive our opponents.

>>40270883 (OP)
real

>>40272077
kinda

>>40270883 (OP)
Am I the only tranny that doesn’t believe “trans” is a transhistorical category? That wildly different and often sexist conceptions of “gender” across different cultures and time periods are being inappropriately flattened into a post-modern Angloid understanding of gender to make this claim?

>>40270883 (OP)
The coming future will be less white, less educated, and more homophobic and transphobic.
You'll outlive white boomers that make jokes about trans people, only to be stoned to death or murdered in another way by black and brown people.

wasnt this picrel made by someone who tried to kill themself like a week after

>>40270883 (OP)
it's simple really. our desire to exist is stronger and will last longer than the current knee jerk political reaction against us. even if many of us repress or rope we will wear them out simply because our will is stronger

>>40272790
There is no "believe" about it. Either you accept the evidence or you are in denial of it.

>>40272804
No.

>>40272996
I guess you can say it will be a Triumph of The Will?

>>40273288
exactly. although unlike nazis we will win because our intentions are pure and we just want to live peacefully. it's cliche but long term peace always wins against hate

>>40273244
Wow what a convincing argument, thanks dude

>>40273529
No problem. Any time.

repper culture has insured that our tranny gene will always live on

>>40270883 (OP)
The idea of trans is a demonic idea and demons have lived on earth for thousands of years. It's true it's been around for a while, but hopefully not much longer. Hopefully trans people will wake up from the lies and delusions and trauma and borderline personality disorders and identity disorders and body dysphoria and become normal again.

>>40273846
If it's merely an idea then it's so basic of an idea that you will never quash it unless you completely abolish both gender and sex, which would also hand us victory.

>>40273861
Well, as a lie and a delusion, it's pretty weak in general. Someone has to already be insane or have no real sense of self to give in to that particular lie. The real issue is the estrogen-like chemicals in modern foods, drinks, soaps, shampoos and plastics.

As a delusion, it is one of many where the person believes that if they change in some way that everything will be better.
Trans people are weird and weird people are seen as potentially crazy and crazy people are seen as dangerous. People will always reject insane people, which many trans people start out as.

>>40273927
The only delusional person here is you, for thinking so rigidly. What are you afraid of?

>>40274463
violent enforcement of society norms is natural. Even bugs do it

>>40270889
absolute complete lie, and even if they did they also believed in witches and demons

there's no history of "trans kids" anywhere either

>>40274781
What about all the little boy slaves we castrated doe

>>40270883 (OP)
cis people have also lived in every time period and culture, in bigger numbers too. what makes you think we will outlive cis people?

>>40274781
It's so funny how simple it is to disprove every anti trans argument

>>40275401
what's funnier is that no matter how many times you disprove it, the number of people convinced will always be smaller than the number of new people who fall into hating trans people for some bullshit reason, meaning we get to convince people of the truth of our existences forever.

Or... hopefully not, I guess. Ah God is real and he hates us is a thing I fall into believing

>>40274576
Bro actually just said he has the iq of a bug lmao

>>40274576
>im subhuman I should be squashed!

>>40275648
>>40275664
#triggered

smug smile

>>40275968
>the level of anger it takes to post such a juvenile wojak image
holy triggered

>>40275979
>>40275968

>>40275989
>>40275979

>>40272790
the broad concept of "gender deviance" applies to all of them, its just that in cultures where this becomes accepted in the traditional gender paradigm these "third genders" tend to have a more rigidly defined set of roles than men & women and are to some extent segregated from them
whereas modern trans ppl arent necessarily put into such roles and (try to) exist in ordinary society for the most part
i dont think these are completely different things at base its just that modern culture tends to deal with this phenomenon in a different way from historical & traditional instances

>>40272053
When do animals turn bisexual?
They haven't had governments in forever!

>>40276493
https://www.nwf.org/Magazines/National-Wildlife/2023/Summer/Conservation/Same-Sex-Behavior-Animals-Science

>>40270883 (OP)
BASED

I don't care about other trannies. I exist right now and that's what matters.

>>40270883 (OP)
i have no opponents. i love those who hate me

>>40270883 (OP)
Trans people can't reproduce
Trans people are mutations from cis people

There's no such thing as trannies outliving cis people. If cis people are annihilated, trans people will cease to exist.
But it trannies are annihilated, cis people will still continue to exist.

>>40278327
The point is that trannies will be around long after your retarded ideology has since become irrelevant whether thats in 1, 100, or 1000 years from now.

>>40278327
>>40270883 (OP)


Eventually man had to mutate intelligence

Evolution is merely mutation Olympics. The trans mutation is the rarest and perhaps strongest mutation because it can appear from no where like a ghost whilst giving the user astral powers and intellect beyond comprehension, it is the very first astral gen.
Us trannies may be the only physical beings in existence who's very birth is severed from the chain of causality

Maybe we were chosen to lead, to guidez or maybe to protect. I dont know what my purpose is exactly, but i feel the same way about cis people, the way elves do about dwarves.

>>40270883 (OP)
>people will continue to have a debilitating mental illness even after the treatment for said illness stops being widely available
Wow that's so encouraging OP

>>40278373
>retarded ideology has since become irrelevant
That's not ideology

That's biology.
It's an objective fact (it has nothing to do with what I think, like, or hate. Thus not an ideology.)
Biology never becomes irrelevant, because it doesn't care what humans think and still affects humans forever.

You are talking about survival, so biology is the core factor. (Why do you care whether cis or trans people survive 1,000 years from now, long after you're dead?)

>>40279323
I don't literally think trans is a mutation from cis. I just use that word because I think it conveys my message best.
Trans derives from Cis, thus it's impossible for Trans to outlive Cis.
>>40270883 (OP)
>Trans people will collectively outlive their opponents.
There's no way OP's statement is true.

>>40279352
You're a retarded nigger that thinks every cis person is against you
(You) are the one that should die out the most

>>40279352
>impossible for Trans to outlive Cis.

I find your lack of faith....disturbing...

>>40279362
Please use your brain a little.

This was OP's statement.
>Trans people have existed in every time period and every culture. We will collectively outlive our opponents.
There are only two possibilities:
1) The opponents OP was referring to are trans.
2) The opponents OP was referring to are cis.

In scenario 1, OP is automatically wrong because Trans can't outlive Trans, as they both have the same conditions.

So, the only thing left to argue is scenario 2.

>>40279416
But OP wasn't saying trans people will outlive cis people.. They're saying trans people will outlive transphobic ideologies and governments. Trans people have already existed and always will.
That's cold comfort when you care mostly about what happens in your own lifetime where you live, though.

>>40279504
>Trans people have already existed
Trans people have always existed

>>40279352
>That's biology.
Hormone replacement changes gene expression, making cells/tissue act more like if they had XX or XY dependent on hormone being added
https://www.the-scientist.com/hormone-therapy-triggers-male-gene-patterns-in-transgender-mens-cells-71014
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220228/Study-shows-the-impact-of-gender-affirming-hormone-therapy-on-epigenetic-signature-of-genes.aspx
Homologous structures
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_related_male_and_female_reproductive_organs
https://www.meddean.luc.edu/lumen/meded/grossanatomy/pelvis/homology.html
https://www.maudmedical.com/news/happy-november-from-maud
Viable eggs from male people, viable sperm from female people
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/05/27/1177191913/sperm-or-egg-in-lab-breakthrough-in-reproduction-designer-babies-ivg
https://theconversation.com/eggs-from-men-sperm-from-women-how-stem-cell-science-may-change-how-we-reproduce-219005
Most cis women have Y chromosomes in some cells:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32065627/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16084184/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3458919/
Trans men grow prostate tissue
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/his.14587
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32282346/
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00345-021-03907-y
Trans women grow breasts identical to cis women's
https://genderanalysis.net/resources/studies-on-trans-womens-breast-development/

>>40278327
OP isn't saying trans people will outlive cis people, which is possible but unlikely (talking about reproduction is a red herring, st4t reproduction is possible today, but irrelevant because it mostly produces cis people). she's saying trans people will outlive transphobes.

>>40271164
not if the fucking "disabled rights" retards have their way and block any research because they unilaterally decided that autistic people don't want to know what causes autism(???)

>>40271065
>Zoroastrians
still exist though

>>40280756
they even have like a weird member of the iranian parliament despite it being an islamic theocracy

desu only passoids are valid

>>40278373
Taboos being persecuted has been around as long as trannies

>>40270889
Germanics did have a concept of gender bending people. It just wasn't usually positive

Non of this stuff has anything to do with slovenly autistics growing tits and refusing to shower btw

imagine being so across the board defeated that the own you can think of is the fact that you won't jump off a bridge.

>>40280927
>Autogynephilia
This hypothesis was made up by putting "phallometry" devices on crossdresser penises, it's not reliable and the data quality is too low, many courts don't allow it as evidence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penile_plethysmography#Legal_admissibility
>According to Barker and Howell, penile plethysmography (PPG) does not meet the legal threshold for the guilt phase for the following reasons:
> * No standardization
> * Test results are not sufficiently accurate
> * Results are subject to faking and voluntary control by test subjects
> * High incidence of false negatives and false positives
> * Results are open to interpretation

>>40281155
You don’t have to convince me you’re an aspie transbian rapehon anon, its pretty obvious okay

>>40281180
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>>40270883 (OP)
does it really matter if we live on if the people that hate us gain ultimate power to make us and those who come after miserable and twisted forever?

>>40270883 (OP)
oh im sure

>>40282021
Why do you just randomly know about that site existing? I've never seen it in my life.

>>40270883 (OP)
i wont i plan to commit suicide in late september

>>40280942
And those taboos change constantly.
We are still living in the aftermath of the Roman Empire which was what really kicked off the anti gay bullshit.
What's to say that wont change in the future?

>>40282021
Kinda calling yourself out by knowing that website exists desu.

>>40275715
Your upper jaw is extremely narrow,maybe you need maxillofacial surgery

>t. Nazi oral surgeon

>>40278327
trannies being a mutation of cis people means even if you kill all the trannies alive now you can't really annihilate them

It's a long way down isn't it?

>>40282908
>trannies being a mutation of cis people means even if you kill all the trannies alive now you can't really annihilate them
Correct.

>>40270883 (OP)
Doesn't matter. Only your life matters. Arm yourself, retards, and kill them when they come for you.

>>40282908
Also means the only way to get rid of all trannies is to get rid of all cis people lmao

>>40270883 (OP)
Not if you die of stds or kill yourself faggot.

>>40282867
i'm just ugly

>>40270883 (OP)
No you won't, trannoid.