Thread 40926388

fuck you stupid website for giving me tits fuck you

lol trolled

I wish /cd/ would have told me about HRT when I asked 20 years ago so I could have grown tits instead of telling me it was dangerous and not to troon out

>>40926388 (OP)
post em

>>40926415
im glad i never went on that site i would have been a troon even sooner
>i am 12 and what is this
thanks /b/

>>40926388 (OP)
i can take them back if you really want :>

>>40926418
eat my shorts

my tits suck,,, give me yours

>>40926575
mine are worse

>>40926589
I don't care, give me them! mine are pancakes

>>40926388 (OP)
lol nice gyno fag
>>40926415
/cd/, the next generation of susans'

same fuck this website i need a surgeon asap

>>40926609
mine are two unnecessary lumps on the usual male frame

>>40926647
gynoFAAAAAG
>>40926648
i need a therapist -10years ago loloskdosksskskkokkokololololol

>>40926662
my body is also too masc for boobs unfore, but that's not gonna stop me

i had to stop taking hrt because the tit growth was too much, a man with tits LOL

anyway im taking anti androgens now and speedrunning boneitis so hopefully i can die

>>40926783
>a man with tits LOL

>>40926726
uncensored pls?

>>40926807
its a moderate sized nipple kinda dark pink

>>40926807
anon just really wants to see nonas nips!

>>40926916
thats a mans puffy hairy nipples you are talking about

>>40926977
thy are not hairy!

it happened to me too

>>40926423
where are my /cd/ friends from 2011?? ;_;

>>40926388 (OP)
retard

>>40927927
mean!

>>40926388 (OP)
>>40926448
>>40926648
>>40926783
>>40927179
Sorry for being rude but how the fuck to do you find yourself taking hrt when you're not actually trans...? It's not like people look up to trannies in society or something.

>>40928065
ive been extremely jealous of women since i was a child and knew about trans people way too young. i took hrt at 25 (lol) to prevent twink death (lol). ive been on this site since i was 11

>>40928291
So you knew about trans people for that long but weren't able to tell you weren't one?
Or did you know you weren't one but took hrt anyways?

>>40926388 (OP)
you are a beautiful and valid woman now nona, and you're welcome

>>40928312
i honestly still dont know what being trans classifies and im not sure anyone does.

but i obviously didnt think this through properly

>>40928312
>>40928341
adding on, i think i went into it knowing i am more "non binary" if anything idk. i did realize this wasnt an easy thing to do.

>>40926388 (OP)
unironically I would never have been trans without the internet and this site specifically. I would just vaguely have wanted to be a woman but still live my life, this place made the dysphoria brainrot 200x worse

>>40928369
FACTS

>>40928341
>>40928355
Do you have dysphoria?
Are the effects of hormones inherently negative to you, like, "I wish I wouldn't have had the changes from them at all, even if I was a hermit somewhere totally by myself" or are you more upset for social reasons or sour grapes "I'm at risk for people to hate me now"/"Nobody sees me as I want they just see me as a freak"/"I'll never fully be a REAL woman so what's the point?"

>>40928440
>even if I was a hermit somewhere totally by myself"
i remember thinking about this a lot when starting. the changes are fine i guess its everything around it thats weird. like holding my chest when i run. idk! its likes i opened pandoras box

>>40928369
and this is dreadfully apparent to me also

>>40927207
Whatsup

Should I not take hrt? Am I just getting groomed into thinking I want to take hrt?

>>40928500
go to a therapist first/talk to someone else about it at the very least please. its easy build a fantasy within an echo chamber

>>40928529
I did talk to my therapist about it a little bit but shes very old and doesnt seem to be very knowledgable on the subject. She even refers to transitioning as "transing out" so im not sure how reliable she is. Im scared that my desires to be a girl arent real and may stem from an echo chamber, especially since I never felt any desire to be a girl when I was a kid

>>40928569
at the very least stay away from this website. nothing here is good and no one wants the best for you. i certainly wish that if i was actually trans, that this website wasnt apart of that story for me.

>>40928603
I dont really have anywhere else to go. I have no social life and this site is one of the few places i like posting on. Besides, trans communities on other sites arent much better, if anything they are even more echo-chambery

I dont know what to do or what to think. Im terrified of regretting transition, but I also cant wait to figure things out since otherwise my body will masculinize further

>>40928639
>but I also cant wait to figure things out since otherwise my body will masculinize further
dont worry about this istg you will be fine. take ur time

>>40928569
>Im scared that my desires to be a girl arent real and may stem from an echo chamber, especially since I never felt any desire to be a girl when I was a kid
I'm the exact same as you in this regard. I decided to just try out hrt, and I've been more or less constantly in panic mode, because of the fear of regretting it later on, and also that I'll regret stopping hrt.
Definitely look into going to a professional gender therapist so you can avoid this if you can.
Worrying about your desire to be a woman to not be genuine is a pretty good confirmation that it is though

>>40928656
Why shouldnt I worry when theres a very real chance I could regret not doing it sooner. Ive been questioning my gender for like 2 years now and I still havent figured it out for sure, so even if I waited i might still not figure it out.
>>40928663
Unfortunately getting a gender therapist isnt really feasible for me right now. And by good confirmation, do you mean confirmation that i am genuinely trans, or confirmation that im faking?

>>40928291
same bestie, unfortunately it did not prevent my twink death but it did give me the moobs of an old obese man!

>>40926448
>that site
It's this site though

>>40928754
/cd/ is 420chan silly. i only used to go on the drug boards bcuz my brother was a stoner. didn't know about the crossdressing board until postmortem

>>40928737
yesss sis i love having a big chest and flabby tibbies for no good reason other than i didnt want to "twink die"

#winning

>>40928723
>do you mean confirmation that i am genuinely trans, or confirmation that im faking?
There isn't. It's just a do or don't. Since you've been questioning for over 2 years, and are afraid of regretting not starting sooner, why are you still doubting yourself? Is it just the fact that you didn't want to be a girl as a kid?
Personally I've tried experimenting with different gender presentation quite a bit, and it hasn't helped me unfortunately. If you've tried it, and you liked it, then there's basically nothing holding you back.

>>40926726
ur a baddie
that being said can i get a booty pic

>>40928784
The reason I still doubt is for multiple reasons. I dont want to ruin my cock, and I sometimes feel like im more like a femboy than a trans girl. I also dont want to seem to relate to a lot of the common experiences most transgirls have (like the aforementioned desire to be a girl as a kid) or for some more example, I never had a moment where my "egg" cracked and I didnt experience any kind of emotion or euphoria when I tried on girl clothes.

>>40928857
>I also dont want to seem to relate to a lot of the common experiences most transgirls have
I was typing something else but changed my sentence mid-way. I meant to say "I also dont seem to relate to a lot of the common experiences". Just ignore the want to part lol
apologies for the typo

>>40926388 (OP)
LMAO
nice tits sis, are they lactating ?

>>40928890
no i barely draw boobs and wanted them to be noticable and also was using my finger to draw OKAY

>>40928723
You're gonna have to figure it out for yourself eventually. Remove all the outside forces in your life and really think for yourself if this is something you want to do. Whether or not you transition the world will still go on as it has before. You've just got to learn to love and accept your body whatever happens, and not get too wrapped up in all the brainworms about how you "should" look. This website (and to a wider degree society but it's absolutely horrendous here) bombards you with information that either explicitly or implicitly attempts to reinforce certain body/beauty standards that cause people to go crazy trying to match.

You can stay a boy or you can be a girl, or you can be non-binary or whatever other thing sounds right to you, and the wheel will keep turning. What matters is just doing what you think feels right. There are cis people on HRT, there are trans people not on HRT and it's all cool. Some people will be dickheads about it, anything public facing like the infamous bathroom issue is trouble waiting to happen, but those close to you (and those who will become close to you) should have the emotional maturity to see you for you, not for whatever labels you're attached to.

>>40928857
I had some similar feelings as you, and the dick thing is certainly a concern, but there's nothing stopping you from just stopping HRT if you don't like the effects. You also don't need to experience stereotypical trans events to be interested in experimenting with your gender identity. The bigger question is if you relate to the present lived experience of trans women instead.

>>40928500
You shouldn't take HRT.

>>40928912
Its hard to just remove all outside forces in my life from my thinking. I do remember looking at some asktransgender reddit post awhile ago asking people if they would still feel the need to be a woman if they were born alone on an island with no concepts of gender. I remember thinking I probably wouldnt since I wouldnt have any concept of gender, or would I be perceived by anybody else, but all the other comments were stuff like "id probably still feel like something is wrong". So maybe thats a sign im faking without outside forces? I dont know, the thought the im faking makes me feel dissapointed

I dont think I can love and accept my body. I despise it so much. I hate seeing myself in the mirror, my body disgusts me. I know that this site and society as a whole reinforces problematic beauty standards, but I still desire I meet those standards

Non-binary just doesnt sound right to me either. I feel the need to have a label so I can have some kind of identity I can be apart of. Im aware of the fact cis people take hrt too, so I most likely might just take hrt either way, but i assume there would be a difference what dosage id need to take. I dont really have any friends and im not close with my family so nobodys gonna see me just for me.

As for just starting hrt anyways, I would love too but not all of the effects are reversible and that scares me. Even if I stopped then my dick would still be permanently affected in some ways. And I dont want to just not take hrt either since imagining myself as an old man makes me want to rope. Im not sure which present lived experiences of transwomen im supposed to relate too, especially since im not on hrt and dont identify as a girl anywhere online

>>40929071
Well in regards to the old "if you were born alone on an island" question, it's less about gender and more about how you'd choose to express yourself. If you were born alone on an island would you rather have a beard or shave? Would you rather have a larger figure or a smaller figure? Would you rather be angular or curvy? Would you rather have a deep voice or a light voice? Frankly, it's reasonable to argue that all of this is pointless, as a person living alone on an island may not have the comprehension that things could be different.

If you can't accept and love your body, I'd ask you at least can accept your reality and love yourself despite your body image issues. There are always avenues to work on your appearance, regardless of HRT/transition, like cosmetics and fashion, so I'm not saying to just abandon your body to its fate. It's okay to want to be the best you you can be, but don't hate the reality because it doesn't match up to the ideal. Ideals are poisonous.

>>40929071
>>40929273
As for the non-binary thing, there are labels that exist within non-binary like genderfluid (flipping between gender identity), androgyne (something in between boy and girl) and agender (not identifying with either of the binary genders). While none of these may be what you're looking for, I'd at least suggest looking into it a bit to see if one strikes a chord with you. /HRTgen/ has a guide with suggestions regarding stalled breast growth. There is such a thing as micro-dosing estrogen in an attempt to get less pronounced effects, but my research into it was kinda lackluster and it seems that it just slows the rate at which the changes occur rather than having diminished final results. I've read from many sources that raloxifene might be a way to get femininizing effects without breast growth, but I DIY and that stuff seems like a hassle to get so I just said fuck it and am getting tits.

Again there's nothing wrong with not taking HRT if it scares you, I'm not here to tell you whether or not it's the right call. You can personally identify however you want regardless of what others say. Either way I'd suggest getting a good skincare routine if you're afraid of wrinkles.

What I meant regarding relating to trans experiences is just if you can feel a connection to how trans women feel about their bodies or their identities.

Btw sorry for all the damn text I know that can really fuck with the flow of the thread for other people.

>>40929273
I dont have any loveable qualities though, im a talentless and identity-less loser who has zero friends. I honestly just dont know how to feel about my reality, everythings so confusing.
>>40929286
Im aware, but I feel like those labels dont really have much of a community behind them, atleast not in the same sense that the trans community or the femboy community does. I want to be apart of something. I honestly dont mind growing breasts so stalling them isnt really a concern to me, its mostly genitalia that concerns me. As for micro-dosing estrogen, it seems like it general theres barely any research on it. Its hard to find any reliable info on it since most of what people say seem to just be personal anecdotes that vary wildly.

I really do need to start a skincare routine but im just too depressed to bring myself to put on moisturizer in the mornings. I am scared of hrt but I want many of its effects so badly.

I can relate to many parts of how trans women feel about their bodies and identities, but theres parts where I dont.

>>40929474
Worrying about developing an ED is pretty much pointless. Estrogen monotherapy won't let your dick atrophy, as long as you use it regularly. And even if it ever reaches a point where an erection will be harder to maintain, there's stuff like topical T, cialis, and tadalafil.
Micro dosing E also simply isn't a thing. You'll either still have too much testosterone for it to do anything, or you have too little of both, which is basically just a menopause

>>40929474
I'm sorry that you feel that way about yourself anon. I wish I could help you in the social regard, but I'm something of a recluse myself. Despite its reputation online, there's nothing wrong with joining a Discord for something you're passionate about to connect with people over similar interests (obscure forums or whatever also work).

Depression is a horrible affliction, and it takes a lot of time and effort to crawl out of. All I can say is that you can just take it one day at a time, take time to care for yourself and show yourself some love. Forgive yourself when you make a mistake or forget to do what you planned to. If you can forgive yourself and keep looking to the future, you'll make progress even if very slowly.

This is all I have left to say on the subject of your questioning. I really hope you can find yourself and be happy. Just know that the self you're seeking out has always been with you, and it isn't going anywhere. It'll patiently wait for the day when you can convey your feelings.

>>40926415
You'd be no better off thoughbeit.

>>40928912
>There are cis people on HRT, there are trans people not on HRT and it's all cool.
Not really.

>Some people will be dickheads about it
How so? By pointing out that drugs don't solve problems?

>>40929658
There's always people on all sides looking to invalidate others. The never ending screeching on this board about this label or that label being bad or this person faking it for attention or whatever is a good testament to that.

>>40929608
im not worried about developing an ED, I already have one lol. But dick atrophy is far from the only thing im worried about. Im worried about the testes and dick shrinking, and erectile dysfunction. And from the people ive asked online in the past, topical t doesnt seem to actually do anything, although ive never actually been able to ask anyone who uses topical t.

>>40929612
>there's nothing wrong with joining a Discord for something you're passionate about to connect with people over similar interests
Thanks, but ive tried that many times already. Nobody ever takes interest in me in servers, its like im just another person talking in the background to them.

I dont know how to show myself love. I cant love myself. I cant make myself like me. But thank you

He fell for the meme kek

Yall are a bunch of faggot losers. Bunch of discord groomed wastes of life. Pathetic. Dont bother replying I wont be here you retarded fags.

>>40926388 (OP)
Nobody forced you tho

>>40932046
duhhhhjjhh durrrrrrrr

>>40926388 (OP)
oh no no no..
should have went to /biz/

>>40926388 (OP)
unsee?

>>40932808
so i could have been poor and retarded?

>>40932811
no. im ugly and an awful picture taker

>>40932832
stop being poor.

>>40931948
i groomed myself dummy

>>40932854
biz would make me poorerer

>>40926410
Fpbp, OP utterly pwned

>>40926388 (OP)
I got pwned too

But I knew it wasn't gonna work out anyway because of height/shoulders/ribs/feet and was really mad about it, so I trooned out as a weird form of alt-suicide

Now I'm almost ready for the real thing because It's getting boring and I'm old and tired of getting mogged

>>40926388 (OP)
It's tits or gtfo, and you chose tits.

>>40933914
>trooned out as a weird form of alt-suicide
literally same and real

>>40929694
I think topical T helps with dick atrophy but won't help with testicle shrinkage as they shrink because they're not producing testosterone so adding testosterone to the tissue would probably cause them to atrophy even further if anything. If you want you can try hrt for like a month or 2 by DIYing to see if you like how it feels. Just make sure to keep an eye on your breast buds so you don't end up with little cone tits. My nipples started to hurt especially when I pressed on the right on so I stopped my trial run there because I got really anxious about getting boobs. As far as I can tell my dick's fine if you're worried about that. I'm still kinda in the same boat as you tho when it comes to my identity even after my trial run.

>>40929628
retard