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•Tool for visualizing pitch and resonance
https://acousticgender.space/

▶ Resources MTF:
--- Full MTF Course ---
•L's Guide
https://www.reddit.com/r/transvoice/comments/d3clhe/ls_voice_training_guide_level_1_for_mtf/

•Google Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gLIOxG9Oq8Ncs1z-c1uvHAgZ43bYGuwdJtLQrQ9EyDg/

•Supplement L's guide with...
False Folds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdsaPJdU24s
•Vocal Fold Thickness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PNnBRBfOVY&t=146s
--- Larynx Stuff ---
•Whisper Siren:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Noi2qERus

•General overview/swallow and hold method:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ro2R3esHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWWevU4A5mU

•Big dog/small dog:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx4dPWKVt9o

▶ Resources FTM:
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•http://www.radical-musicology.org.uk/2008/Constansis.htm
•https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24155064
•https://pastebin.com/CCw9czC0

https://voca.ro/1o752qIoPuKc
Prob turn ya volume up for this one I had to be quiet

https://voca.ro/1a5dK3gtJOY1
>>41455812
i’m assuming you’re ftm? if you are, very passing voice

>>41455898
Yes I'm ftm thank you

>>41455898
Also I'll listen to your voice and rate when I'm not with a girl

>>41456424
blow off your girl for more /tttt/ posting

>>41455812
>https://voca.ro/1o752qIoPuKc
hii poonerbro !!!! nice to see u again !!

https://voca.ro/1b2tluFqqZMG

>>41456452
Oh I'll blow her off

>>41455898
https://voca.ro/1fDChgLvEMPW
>>41456460
https://voca.ro/1nAn0UAtgC4X

>>41457947
>https://voca.ro/1nAn0UAtgC4X
nope :3 we all love u poonerbro <3

>>41457947
i’ll falsettoing more when i’m alone then o7

>>41457947
https://voca.ro/1dTvR7SQCLzD

>>41458928
https://voca.ro/1ik5JxGsnpQd

>>41459063
https://voca.ro/1WqWT2MWIzWy

>>41459286
https://voca.ro/1hBR8qG2Gk28

Vocaroo threads have become unusable since that ftm dude started spamming with his shitty pics
Mostly because of the cringe tranny orbiters ngl like omg stfu
Just put a trip on so I can filter you

>>41461196
why do you hate me

>>41461201
You're annoying af, don't bring anything to the threads, and are just attention-starved so you just make the threads about yourself and your orbiters.

>>41461203
https://voca.ro/1nnLfv98BYaG

>>41461239
don't mind them they're just a malding fag, ty for keeping these gens bumped ftmanon :)

>>41461287
Exactly proving them right lmao

https://vocaroo.com/12GLGm8DYdU7

any tips please i cry every 2 weeks because of my voice

>>41461437
>https://vocaroo.com/12GLGm8DYdU7
let me kiss you

>>41461437
https://voca.ro/1oBXPaHeXImf
>>41461371
https://voca.ro/12N6Z3tYFcFt

>>41461459
fine, https://vocaroo.com/1fOOZ7MbDn5E

>>41461459
https://voca.ro/15yijl2k4CQV

>>41461459
wow, no wonder nobody in this thread likes you. You're a fucking dick to this random girl

>>41461486
https://voca.ro/1kO6xH9PiZFt
>>41461521
https://voca.ro/17ZFjvm45pEL

>>41461643
https://voca.ro/151J9nxWb0sM

>>41461643
i'm from eastern european country (slavic), sorry for that

>>41461685
https://voca.ro/1l2fKl3LzQNs
>>41461708
Cute I love slavs

>>41461641
Yeah he's shitting up what used to be the sole nice thread on this hellish board.
He's racist too obvsly lol but since he has a masc-ish voice he thinks that makes him hot shit. Yjk irl he's 5ft tops and overcompensating by acting like a cunt online.

>>41461859
me when i reply to myself

>>41461708
You're completely understandable lol he's just a total retard

>>41461868
>not even using the same capitalisation
Cope

>>41461900
me when i think i did a good job at covering my tracks when i replied to myself

Y is this malder shitting up the thread, not even contributing and thinking he has any grounds to complain abt others ?_?

>>41461915
>>41461900
>>41461868
Nope! Just two different people who genuinely reached the same conclusion that you're a condescending retard. Fuck you for demeaning the slavic girl. I'm also the "chuddy" guy who made the two voice messages earlier today.

>>41461915
>two people can't dislike me/the pooner i fantasise on it must be the same one person!!! It's a conspiracy!!
Ok sure lol

>>41461926
me when im trying really hard to prove that im not replying to myself

>>41461927
>>41461929

>>41461926
Dw they'll somehow pretend we managed to break the 60sec msg limit just because that pooner is so lovable and we're jelly or whatever

>>41461937
kek dw poonerbro its totally one person one like eight different devices

>>41461848
https://voca.ro/1cBKGWEk3xP4

>>41461923
Every single thread since the mean dyke chaser started posting with her shitty furry soviet pictures has been utter shit. No feedback just retarded tgirls thinking "wow a real girl with us itt!!"

>>41461955
oop

>>41461955
https://voca.ro/1bAdPtorA1bU

Picunrel I just love hetslop

>>41461955
>>41461995
Omg go do a suicide pact or sth and leave omg

>>41461957
youre a cis man arent you the creepy chaser hanging out itt? your gross bogan accent is yucky af, leave this place!

>>41462007
awwww cmon, let poonerbro shoot his shot, even if he sounds like an insufferable wannabe dudebro just trying to emulate what he thinks men sound like lel

>>41461957
yep. i really wish i had gotten advice from more than just him. instead we got a whole thread of shit flinging and back and forth vocaroos

>>41462022
wrong person award

>>41462022
The pooner is literally a bogan lmao wtf you on about
>>41462025
Fr like the most basic negging ever every time too lmao
>>41462027
But the thread is active and getting bumped!! We should all be happy about this!!

>>41462083
get a life looll

>>41462027
I'm sorry I've stopped giving feedback (and posting) since the threads have become what they are now... I can't be bothered deciphering all this and I dread having to interact with those ppl ngl
Thread was incredibly better this summer

>>41462101
the fact that 1 cis man is writing all this slop is crazy lol been a while since ive seen this level of malding

>>41461995
https://voca.ro/1cLXD7TmB9CC

>>41462096
>>41462106
>t.

>>41462110
https://voca.ro/1do58Af3miw8

>>41462106
still not true, I just came back to the thread later today and was mad u were criticising the slavic lady, im a little mad about that. I probs wouldn't have said anything otherwise. Im logging off now
>>41462083
negging is the correct term for it, you'd be right.

>>41462155
oh my god nigga nobody cares

>>41462171
>guy who cares a lot about pretending it’s one person bitching at him

>>41462171
>racist like that other anon said
Niceeee

>>41462197
I dont say n word

>>41461371
cis woman imo, there's no way that a regular person that doesn't think about trannies 24/7 could clock you
>>41461437
I have no advice but obviously it can be heard that you're trying really hard, it's very forced but at least it's feminine. I mean if I didn't think it was forced I'd think you're dying.
>>41461486
Also, you're understandable.

>>41462407
"at least its feminine" im cooked fuck my fucking life why am I even wasting time on trying to change my fuckign voice

>>41462475
How long have you been training?

>>41462475
Are u able to practice your girl voice in your irl life? It just sounds like you need more practice as if you haven't been able to find your natural voice because you don't have many real situations to use it in

>>41462475
pls dont give up nona

>>41462491
for about 2 years of research and voice exploration
>>41462501
sadly no, I usually train 5-6 times a ween when i return from university
>>41462523
thanks i guess... lack of results drives meinsane though

>>41462552
So you've been voice training for 2 years but I assume you're not "out" irl at all? When will you able to transition

>>41462552
Hey I made the first comment and if I heard your voice on the phone I would just think it's little girl who's sick on the other end. I don't know how you can bring out your voice but you could get by with this one, you're not cooked

>>41462578
idk, im stuck with parents forareally big amount of time until i get my diploma and survive though 2 years of mandatory employment in my country

I want to get able to do female voice until i get to actually transition (if not counting taking estrogen) so ill be able to make youtube videos and voice characters I created (all of them are asexual women) so its really important to me

>>41462608
Maybe you can get some discord buddies or something, people you can talk to regularly to practice your voice with in natural conversation

bmp

https://voca.ro/1dBoEOaZQ0W8
please review i am begging you. this close to tearing my ears off and vocal chords out.

>>41464492
The pitch is too high. Resonance seems okay.

>>41464563
https://voca.ro/16KSN4kAaIpA

bump

>https://voca.ro/1o752qIoPuKc
Overdoing it a bit, try not to be PirateSoftware.
>https://voca.ro/1a5dK3gtJOY1
Fuck you for the ASMR in the background.
Resonance seems off, try to speak "at the front of your face" if that makes sense. Don't speak from your chest (you are) neck or nose. It is front of mouth. Everything else sounds male.
>https://voca.ro/1b2tluFqqZMG
I can hear that you're sick but this sounds really good, especially the bye at the end. Passes in my book.
>https://vocaroo.com/12GLGm8DYdU7
Are you whispering in order to fix your resonance or are you trying to not wake your parents up? I can't give any advice due the whispering desu, but sounds good.
>https://voca.ro/1cLXD7TmB9CC
I am convinced that you're a cis woman who comes on here to mog us.

>>41464492
The highest you can go is a no no, too forced. You sound like there's something stuck in your throat.
In general it's fine but somewhat trans

>>41462663
>>41462608
id be willing to be a discord voice training bud

>>41465497
thanks for reply, i redid the recording in reply 41461486 (https://vocaroo.com/1fOOZ7MbDn5E)

>>41465645
waow...

>>41455898
Hahaha you so sound so faggy, but you are so funny, I want you as wife.

I got clocked for the first time in years PLEASE I’m desperate, tell me how to fix this. I cannot be embarrassed like that ever again!
https://voca.ro/1c8WT8keNFtJ

>>41464492
You sound out of breath at points idk if thats clocky but it stands out. Also a bit nasal which could be an issue. It sounds like a voice you’re putting on in places rather than one that is your default
>>41461176
You sound like a guy with maybe a cold? If you’re trying to sound like a guy you’re doing great. Drugs bad obvi tho but like who is here without a vice
>>41461437
The voice is passable as female i think, but it sounds like a character, I feel like not many people sound this way irl. It sounds weird but experiment with lowering your pitch while maintaining a bright vocal resonance and see how it sounds. It might not be what you want but it’s a good place to start looking for a lot of girls. Also it is very breathy which isn’t necessarily bad but it can sound forced if you overdo it so also experiment with that and see how you feel. I know that advice is vague but honestly a lot of voice training is just experimenting

>>41465870
>The voice is passable as female i think, but it sounds like a character, I feel like not many people sound this way irl. It sounds weird but experiment with lowering your pitch while maintaining a bright vocal resonance and see how it sounds. It might not be what you want but it’s a good place to start looking for a lot of girls. Also it is very breathy which isn’t necessarily bad but it can sound forced if you overdo it so also experiment with that and see how you feel. I know that advice is vague but honestly a lot of voice training is just experimenting
THANK YOU will try experimenting with that
guess its time to actually look up how to reduce breathiness...

>>41465497
sorry about background noise, i think it’s just because i’m using apple earbuds as my mic, i made sure to actually mute my tv for it. i definitely agree that i’m speaking from my chest, i just struggle to make adjustments in that sense, like idk how to speak from the front of my mouth it’s my biggest struggle with voice training, i hear the advice and can’t for the life of me manipulate my voice in the ways i’m being told to
>>41465775
glad you found me funny i guess :/

So this is my (so far) trained voice. Only recently learned how to raise my larynx when I speak, but I don't know what else to do from here.

https://voca.ro/12pPJwYpEm7V

>>41465870
>the best voice in voicegen got clocked
there's no hope
was it irl? over the phone?

>>41466161
It was irl. I think it was one of several factors. I previously thought I was “stealth” since it had been years and people regularly make comments that imply they think I’m cis but clearly I was over confident. I think the other factors could be my height 5’ 11”, fashion (generally alt), longer philtrum, my jaw, and maybe my lack of curves (my waist to hip ratio is good and honestly naked I think I look relatively fine, but most clothes make me look boxier. I am only a high B cup and my ass could use work too)

https://voca.ro/123HZRiq2nOz
my voice clocks me but at least I sound slightly less retarded than most

>>41466215
that makes sense, i wish i could offer some advice for your voice but i'm clueless.
you didnt sound nasal in the recording at all imo, your voice is rather delicate, the little vocal fry that you have sounds natural, if that makes sense, just the kind that some people have.

>>41466239
14 y/o boy, i'd assume you're an ftm

>>41466283
why that assumption

>>41466155
Pls respond

>>41466290
>14 y/o boy
it's just how you sound, you're not actually a 14 y/o boy are you?

>>41466299
im 18yo ftm i just assumed i sounded like a cis woman w a deep voice

>>41466155
if elmo and kermit had a baby

>>41466305
Nah, definitely a boy, I guess keep at it

>>41466272
https://voca.ro/150ZiAKo4EYX

>>41466313
I've actually been told I can do a good Kermit. But in all seriousness, I need to know what I can do to improve.

>>41466343
with all you've just told us it seems like it wasn't your voice, well maybe everything put together and the guy has experience in clocking

>>41466381
I think my face and body had to have played a role but when I post pics here or elsewhere I just get hugboxed so I’ve kinda had to figure it out on my own. I think the traits I mentioned earlier might have done me in idk. It just caught me so off guard cause nobody has called me trans in years and yet he sounded so sure

>>41466077
i suspect speaking from my chest is sort of a side effect of being naturally pretty quiet and then doing theatre so i got taught to project from my chest. obviously “it’s just the way i speak” is a kind of stupid response when the whole point of voice training is to change the way you speak, but i think it’s just a hard thing to unlearn

>>41466356
i'd offer some advice if i had any sorry, also it was just a little joke don't take it heart, you're still at the beginning of your training so thats normal

>>41466484
in years huh? that does sound terrible, i feel your pain

https://voca.ro/1nehoGSYoo0r
Doing really bad voice training for almost a year..., I think althought it kinda help me out... ain''t magic because I just don't put that much effort to it.


>>41465870
I really like your relaxed voice, I mean... it is clocky but not bad... getting brighter although helps I think you really sound female. Better than I, I fucking get clocked at the fucking instant I open my mouth to talk.

>>41461176
https://voca.ro/1fTkcreLUSFQ
>>41466239
How the fuck is this the voice of a 14yo? My voice is the one of a teenager because somehow I got id'd to buy alcohol, lol
>>41466343
Your voice relax is really cute

Reading in Spanish Dracula
https://voca.ro/1eFVdXXu6bnw

https://voca.ro/1nnH10hSwFlB
Wow I actually have morning voice in this one wtf

Oh right forgot to rate
>>41466860
Kinda breathy and forced but you sound cute so
>>41466239
Are you ftm? If so you pass but sound very young, not that I can really talk in that department
>>41465870
https://voca.ro/1zg8j4uR3z8T

how long would it take me to get a faggier voice?
my voice right now is kind of deep unless i'm super happy and i'm insecure about it
gay guy btw

>>41467448
I think fag voice stems from men mostly socializing with women... So get some girlfriends I guess

>>41455812
Hello YouTuber

>>41467413
https://voca.ro/1zg8j4uR3z8T
https://voca.ro/13oUBR2iBwzJ

>>41467673
https://voca.ro/1kszXBMt8BOr
>>41467728
Are u as hot as your slutty passoid voice makes u seem

>>41467413
>Kinda breathy and forced but you sound cute so
I am the enbymoder (because I am awful at being a man) so... I think it fits me. Literally the director is starting to give me roles of girls performing men like Portia because "you have so little man energy that you are more like a woman trying to be a man"... I didn't tell him anything or something like that but I think he clocked me.

Anyways, this is the monologue of violet
https://voca.ro/1l338NOBXjXA

>>41467834
> Are u as hot as your slutty passoid voice makes u seem
I’m def not slutty and I got clocked a few weeks ago (first time in a long time at least) so I’m not like a gigapassoid or anything but there are definitely some people who think I’m attractive
https://unsee cc/album#XYhV6bqXQF0A

>>41468013
>so I’m not like a gigapassoid
lol, lmao even

>>41468056
? I mean I got clocked so like by definition I’m not one. I’m just like a semi passoid or some bs

>>41468080
yeah yeah some queer guy asked if you're trans because thats what he does and you're 5'11
whatever i say you'll think i'm hugboxing so nevermind

>>41468013
trans women should not be allowed to pass this well because how the fuck am i supposed to know to hit on you? t: transbian chaser

>>41468013
I'm going to touch you.

>>41468096
He didn’t ask if I was, he just called me a trans woman. He said it like it was just a normal observation that anyone could see like if he called me brunette. I’m fully aware that I pass to most people in my day to day. I don’t want to sound like some bdd passoid who is all “wah I’m so ugly and clocky and unlovable” but I’m not going to deny the reality that people with keen eyes and ears can apparently tell. And since I live in a red state where it’s illegal for me to even use the work restroom I take anyone clocking me seriously and try to do what I can to fix it so I can stay safe

>>41468128
I see, the red states must produce the best trannies due to sheer pressure

Question (dont mind the retarded accent)
https://voca.ro/161jcr0JgNSS

>>41468113
> trans women should not be allowed to pass this well because how the fuck am i supposed to know to hit on you? t: transbian chaser
Tragically I am a straggot so it wouldn’t matter either way since im only into guys and like masculine nonbinary people too I guess

>>41468122
Good luck doin that from across the pacific king

>>41468013
I wonder what does a man need to do to get a gf like this

>>41468293
Live in the American Midwest, be nice to me, be a person I’m attracted to (rare unforch. I think there’s something wrong with me there), ideally be around my height or taller (not required), be near my age, be willing to take things slow, be willing to commit, date for marriage, ideally want kids, have some kind of ambitions in life, and most importantly be will to tolerate a mentally ill tranny autist who’s still in undergrad and doesn’t make enough to move out despite being 25 (she’s trying really hard to get better tho).

>>41468345
I knew I wouldn't fit the criteria since I'm not even American but I was curious. Reasonable requirements though. Not to be too flattering but if someone is as attractive as you are, it's not surprising you wouldn't find many people attractive

>>41468345
>date for marriage
what do we do about the good girl epidemic sweeping through tgirl communities? i need you to be sluts who are just as afraid of commitment as i am

>>41468440
> it's not surprising you wouldn't find many people attractive
I don’t think it’s that, I think I’m just weird. I didn’t get my first crush until 21. Didn’t get my first kiss until this year. Sure I can see a guy and think “oh he’s hot and now I’m feeling funny” but it’s very rare for me to feel anything beyond that. To get those proper feelings of attraction where I want to get to know him better and be around him more I usually need to have known him for a bit. Not always tho, on rare occasions I’ve felt it for a guy I just saw. Idk it’s a whole thing. It’s frustrating because I’m honestly lonely as fuck and a husband and kids are honestly my only real goals in life (obvi my career too but that more of a “since I’m alive I need a job and I like this one” thing) but I can’t really get a husband when I’m attracted to like 2 people a year

>>41468513
Love>>>>sex every time

i still don’t even know if i’m doing big dog small dog right now :/

>>41468539
How much is "a bit" though because what you wrote doesn't sound that weird, feeling funny is infatuation right? You take that and get to know the person and it might develop into love

>>41468572
yes.

>>41468814
A bit depends on the person desu. Some it took days, weeks, months, others it was a few hours but that was rare. I guess it’s like you can feel attracted to a guy and not feel it enough to desire anything with him irl. Like my lab TA is hot, I can recognize that I think he’s cute, but is he hot enough for me to actually care about dating him? No I don’t really feel strongly enough to care. Or a few years ago I thought a guy in my class was hot cause he had big arms and thighs and stuff and like it made me feel stuff in my stomach and sometimes think dirty things, but if he asked me out I’d have rejected him because even if he was physically very sexy he didn’t interest me in any other way at all. Looks matter, I’m not going to act like they don’t, but they aren’t even really the most important thing. The guys I’ve had the most romantic interactions with have been ones who were quite honestly not the sexiest guys I’ve dated but they had good personalities and made me feel loved. Am I making sense?

>>41468952
Makes perfect sense. Sounds like you need to be very social to get to know as many potential suitors as possible, which is probably a bitch.

>>41465497
>I am convinced that you're a cis woman who comes on here to mog us.
i wish

>>41455730 (OP)
how is my voice really? sorry my accent is really bad and sorry for the jumpscare

i don’t know where to go from here
https://voca.ro/1grglHbMRuwU

>>41470483
also, how cooked am i really?

>>41470483
https://voca.ro/1gF57sIVFuiY

>>41470609
thanks a lot, i’ll try to do that!! yeah, i haven’t spent much time with it, im trying it out randomly from time to time but i’m just overwhelmed and don’t know what to do really

i’m trying to do exercises, watch those videos but idk what to do with it

https://voca.ro/12wRJNVCGEwS

How do i sound guys

>>41470946
You sound mega cute are you in Melbourne? Let's link up

>>41471217
Is that you karter

>>41471217
who else bbgirl

uppies pls