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>Thread Question:
What are your favorite, and least favorite, covers? What makes a good cover for you?

What did you read last?
What are you reading?
What will you read next?

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>>24459323
>What did you read last?
King of Elfland's Daughter. Very nice book. I would definitely recommend anons to read it.
>What are you reading?
Time of Contempt. Still in the beginning
>What will you read next?
Not quite sure. Might read more witcher or read another one off.

I will read a book one of you dummies wrote.

/v/ thready up

I bullied someone into deleting their reddit posts where they argued fans were supressing discussion of a prominent SFFG author's handling of women. I didn't even disagreee that this author handled women badly, I just disliked the argument that this author didn't routinely face accusations of sexism.

Now I feel kinda bad.

I could really handle a woman right now

>>24459651
I wish I was a woman right now

>>24459623
That’s why it’s dead here then. Also those threads are only good if they’re rare. There was a good one last week but they get shit when it happens too often

just finished the meme book!
it was entertaining, albeit a bit repetitive. "I am tired of not standing up for myself" x1000.
hilarious how a gay character and a trans character are mentioned off-handedly within a few pages of each other and then maybe one other time in 800 pages.
the "bwaaa? little Kip is powerful and well-respected? bwaaa?" bit never failed to make me laugh, I must confess.

>>24459657
I could handle a wish right now

https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/text/sffg/

sffg thread on /v/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/706976513/#706976513
lol

>>24459665
You are guilty of reading slop. I sentence you to 10 years of hard labour: reading nothing but Bakker.

>>24459694
bakker is proto-slop

>>24459658
>>24459623

>currently
>>>/v/712354343
This is a reach.

>last week
This is the same of reach
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/711629478/#711675030

Actually I guess this would be the best place to ask. Did anyone ever read David Eddings? Those were probably the best fantasy novels I ever read. How come every other piece of shit series has been adapted except Belgariad/Mallorean?

>>24457953
Sup
Wolfe and Lafferty are the only sff writers I don't think anyone can imitate. Truly unique.

>>24459674
can we pretend that airplanes in the night sky are like shooting stars?
I used to do that even before the song was written

/sffg/ thread on /tv/ with 200+ replies
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/97596493/#97596493

>>24459719
Belgariad was a paint by the numbers kid book

Not my favorite, but I always thought the Hyperion cover was very atmospheric.
I hated the Garret P.I covers, even though I enjoyed reading the first 5 books. Are they really getting worse and worse? I gave up at No.7

When searching for sffg stuff across every board, it becomes evident that the bakker poster has been posting bakker on as many boards as he possibly can, and a lot at that, for years.

>>24459736
No fucking way. Admittedly I read them as a kid, but they gotta hold up on a re-read

Is this Anonymous person actually going to tell me that Eddings isn't superior to Terry Goodkind, Terry Brooks, and Robert Jordan and whoever else? Also GRRM and Rothfuss

>>24459323
>What did you read last?
Don't remember
>What are you reading?
AGoT
>What will you read next?
Idk . ACoK likely

>>24459802
a cock eh

I want this without the gay
which don't have gay?

>>24459821
ASOIAF's gay is pretty limited.

You have Dany getting taught how to have sex by another woman and she gets horny and sleeps with her again in like book 3, and Cersei sleeps with another woman but it's less about being gay and more about her trying to 'be a man' like Robert and owning her daddy and realizing how fruitless this venture is.

All the gay guys in ASOIAF are 'blink and you'll miss it. Even the one gay PoV, JonCon is nowhere near as gay as the fandom loves to larp

>>24459821
It says &, which means "and". They all have all 3.

>>24459845
then gibs book that doesn't

>>24459842
It's just lesbo porn. I don't like it either.

>>24459883
You should just read Glen Cook and David Gemmel if that's the case.

>>24459821
hot. hot. which is the best?

What are some stand alone kinos similar to pic related.

>>24459916
BleakWarrior if you want schizo-fantasy.

>>24459720
>tstssffg
The King of /sffg/.

>>24459916
Mask of the Sorcerer.

>>24459321 (OP)
>TQ
That Zothique cover that always gets posted is probably the worst cover I have ever seen, but also dripping with pure sovl.

>>24459323
>last
Morningstar. I thought it sucked compared to golden son
>current
The First Law trilogy. It's ok so far, just started The Blade Itself
>next
Something adventurous on the high seas, I don't quite know yet

>>24460067
I have a soft spot for shitty 3-D Illustrations, maybe because they remind me of 90s 3-D animations

IS Terry Goodkind bad because it's mid or because he makes shitlibs seethe?

>>24460144
It's mid and he's the same type of obnoxious soapboxer as the shitlibs that seethe because of him.

>>24459907
"raped" by mommy or daddy issues daughter

>>24459323
Finished Dune for the first time after dropping it several years ago, no idea why I stopped, it was great. Currently reading The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories and Other Stories, just finished Tracking Song, probably one of the better stories in the collection. Next is either Neuromancer or starting The Big Book of Science Fiction anthology.

is Joe Abercrombie's new book any good?

Hoping Darrow slits Lysander's throat at some point. He deserves that and worse after how dirty he just did Cassius after that gauntlet of duels.

>>24460524
F. Welcome to the I hate Lysander club

>>24460627
That is some kino fanart

>>24460524
Biggest mistake in the series was Tactus not killing Lysander when he had the chance and instead betrayed Darrow half-heartedly.

>>24459665
How is Lays of the Hearth-Fire as a series, anyway? I never hear anyone talk about it as a whole.

>>24459725
>2018
why in the fuck did you dig this up? let the shame rest.

>>24460687
Darrow made lots of mistakes in thinking that the golds could be reasonable. Should’ve killed them all

Reading Prince of Nothing is ruining my life. I keep trying to be like Kellhus by going into the probability trance to understand the darkness that comes before so I can control my circumstances. But when I fail I'm extremely self-critical for not living up to those standards even though I know it's theoretically possible now. So I have to try harder and harder to control circumstance to avoid anxiety. The mental anguish is becoming unbearable.

>>24459323
>What did you read last?
Last sff i read was children of time
>What are you reading?
Pale Lights
The Years of Apocalypse
The Wandering Inn
Dungeon Crawler Carl (on patreon)
Zenith of Sorcery
One Piece
>What will you read next?
For full books i've been reading non-ssf the last year but the next one will either be Children of Ruin or Deadhouse Gates

have some warhammer 40k fiction

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PIesKEVoDnJ3xd1QC7mfihhIuZyqmJm7DARzt5KMOuE/edit?tab=t.0

>>24459694
I'm not gay though

What do you read for wish fulfillment? I'm not doing well.

>>24460885
SIX books?

>>24460987
They are webnovels (and a manga) . It's weekly chapters.
I'm reading non-ssf atm ( Slaughterhouse-five )

BAKKER IS KING

>>24459323
>Last
Machine Vendetta. The Prefect is the only good book in that series and the last instalment just confirms it
>Reading
Broken Angels, I still can't bring myself to care about Takeshi Kovacs and wish he'd just get erased
>Next
Idk

>>24459719
Eddings thought of one good fantasy heartbreaker story and then he just repeated it for the rest of his career

>>24460514
No.

>>24460514
Yes

>>24459323
>What did you read last?
Dungeon Crawler Carl #6
>What are you reading?
About half way through The Blade Itself
>What will you read next?
Might finish First Law trilogy if it gets better

>>24461386
>if it gets better
You have to be realistic about these things

>>24459719
> How come every other piece of shit series has been adapted except Belgariad/Mallorean?
That ship has sailed. Kind of hard to adapt a series when the author is now known to have been a child abuser.

>>24460885
>Dungeon Crawler Carl
I still don't understand the appeal

>>24461557
Contrary to 4chan's belief, a lot of people actually like millennial humor. They wouldn't keep making it if there wasn't an audience for it. Tack that on with parodying something that doesn't get much parodies (vidya) and you see why he's succeeding in the same way that Douglas Adams and Terry Pratchett did.

t. has listened to like 10 chapters of DCC

>>24461557
It's anti-corpo and anti-social media.
Think Running Man + Hunger games + Hichhiker's Guide
It's also well written , fast paced and has good (but slow) character development.

>>24461477
Last thread someone was posting about how much they were enjoying Belgariad. I was going to bring up kids in cages but I decided against it, didn't want to ruin it for him

>>24461606
>It's also well written
I found it very trite. He keeps mentioning donut is his cat. We get it already. And makes far too much exposition about opening video game menus

>>24461627
>He keeps mentioning donut is his cat
I don't remember that being the case.

>And makes far too much exposition about opening video game menus
You mean the single paragraph explaining how to mentaly navigate menus or do you mean the totality of the litRPG setting?

>>24460856
You're supposed to troon out like the rest of the rationalists

>>24461640
Here's book six, chapter 2

Donut remained in her spot several paces in front of me, but the chunky cat was swiping at the air in front of herself. She sees it too, I thought. Holy crap. Whatever this was, it was happening to the cat just like it was to me.

“Donut,” I said, calling to the cat. “Stay with me.”

The cat, being a cat, ignored me. But as I looked at her, I felt that same almost imperceptible tingle I felt when I’d looked at the door. I focused more tightly, and an information box popped up over the cat.

>>24461705
>there are 'people' who would call this 'well written'

>>24461705
are you sure this is book six , pal?

>>24461612
That might've been me and I couldn't care less to be quite honest

>>24461612
What is the Eddings horror story? I never heard this. Is that the reason why no one ever talks about him?

>>24461816
Convicted of child abuse waay before he ever even became an author

>>24461825
Oh, OK. I just read up on it. Who hasn't wanted to whip a kid with a belt before?
But is the books good?

>>24461832
The Sparhawk novels were a favourite of mine in high school. There's six of them and they have some great climactic moments, especially in the second trilogy. Come to think of it I don't remember any perverted fantasy staples in them either.

>>24461832
you are minimizing his croimes

>>24461832
>whip a kid with a belt
is that all he did though?
at the time, the whole world belted their kids
(I was only switched but all the kids I knew were belted)

surely he must have gone a step beyond to be convicted?

>>24461848
so what did he do then?

>>24459323
The Book of Job
Just bouncing between a bunch of unrelated shit. Gotta stay entertained and I'm not in the mood for vidya or TV or anything else.
I dunno probably Percy Jackson or something. I never had any interest in it but I have a friend who does.

>>24461705
Thank you for confirming my prejudice against DCC. Why did he write 'cat' so many times? Reminds me of the first page of Wandering Inn, which is all I've read of it.
LitRPG: not even once.

There are a million space navy sci fi series. Which one do I choose? I’ve heard good things about the spiral wars and ark royal.

>>24459321 (OP)
>What are your favorite, and least favorite, covers? What makes a good cover for you?
will of the many cover is nice. not the one that's in stores now, the blue one.

>>24459323
>What did you read last?
Lightbringer in Red Rising
>What are you reading
Empire of Silence
>What will you read next
Howling Dark

>>24460073
>Morningstar. I thought it sucked compared to golden son
you know there's a whole other part of the series right? Also I agree, it's not as dope as people say it is. Bottom three book in the series.

>>24459429
Bayne?

>>24459633
which author?

>>24461705
I wonder if there's a sincere disconnect between "reading" DCC and "listening" to the DCC audiobook because you wouldn't pick up on this as overly-descriptive if you were listening it compared to reading, in the same way that Netflix shows overly remind their multitasking viewer of the plot and have to remind them of foreshadowing done in previous episodes moments before the payoff.

>>24461874
I tried two recently

Arenson's Earthrise was terrible. I skimmed the first book and ditched it. I've read better slop on Royalroad, believe it or not

Westerfeld's Risen Empire was much better written but the premise completely threw me. I read every word up to the first skirmish but the character and technology (nanosize combat piloted through some form of telepathy) was I'm sorry to say not my cup of tea

>>24461889
>He fell for the Red Rising to Sun Eater pipeline
Jk. I just finished Light Bringer, best in the series since Golden Son. I actually read Sun Eater first though. Howling Dark is one of my favorite books. Hope you enjoy, anon.

>>24461911
I did fall for that shit lol

Can't wait for Howling Dark because Empire has flashes go greatness but is bogged down by some elements that I just can't stand, and a meandering plot.

>>24461889
I wish I could read Kingdoms of Death and Ashes of Man for the first time again

Books that actually design their spacecraft around space instead of the lazy Star Trek route?

>>24461915
I actually accidentally started reading Howling Dark before Empire of Silence in Barnes And Noble because I thought it was the first book in the series. I thought it was some in media res shit, and that it was supposed to be confusing. That made it even more intriguing to me because it seemed so brave to open a series up like that, and I would find myself just out and about thinking back to the first chapter I read trying to figure out what the hell that was all about.

Then I found out that's book two and I was like ohhhhhhh

>>24461908
Probably, but reading the sample pages on Amazon really makes me angry with all the exposition and pointless dialogue. It also transitions poorly and assumes the reader understands all JRPG conventions.

>>24461931
it happens
I went from Chamber Of Secrets to Goblet Of Fire and was totally confused by all the references to Sirius Black, the Marauder's Map and Peter Pettigrew until the penny dropped and I backtracked halfway through the book

I just finished this, when does it get good?

>>24461951
Le read it a second time book

>>24461951
It's 1/4 of the story

>>24461728
people mean drastically different things when they use the term "well written"
The story is written well--the prose not as much. It did start as a serialized web novel after all.

>>24461851
It must have been bad enough that their two foster kids were taken away and they each spent a year in jail in 1967. It said the kids were being confined in a basement and whipped with belts. He woulda been 36, so not exactly young
>>24461846
Yeah, I read those too, but my true love was Belgariad/Mallorean. They were filled with so much humor, great characters and genuine wisdom. I think I really have to give a re-read now to confirm their quality. Will report back. I remember he always said he was most influenced by Dunsany

Do the ASOIAF books that got split in two have good ends in the middle? Just wondering if I need to read them together, or if I can read something else between.

>>24462013
both feast and dance are halves of the same book with the conclusion cut out to be put into Winds so no they don't have good ends but they are still good books, imo feast has some of GRRM's best POV work

>>24461963
it is in fact 2/12 of the story

Thoughts on this reading order for the Vorkosigan saga?

>>24462050
Always read in published order.

I like the Belgariad. It's comfy and safe and reminds me of simpler times. The good guys go on an adventure to save the world and they do. What's not to like?
>>24461893
I do but I don't want to read it right now

>>24461865
eh , /ssfg/ has darling books with way worse prose , I don't know where this elitism comes from.
You can hate a book on principle , you don't need excuses

>>24462115
Then, in the second series, they go to China and are constantly chasing this schizo broad

>>24461911
>>24461889
>>24461914
Lmao I also planned on going to Sun Eater after I finish Red Rising. 4 hours left in Iron Gold audio book so I still got a bit to go before I start it.

>>24462121
The elitism comes from the fact that litrpg is a garbage genre for garbage people.

>>24462153
nah , that's not it. Plenty of other garbage genres you have no problem with.

>DCC/LitRPGfag getting defensive over his garbage series and genre
You love to see it

Since we're talking about slop already
Isekai vs Characters native to the 'game world' for you lit rpg?
I dislike isekai because it's cheap excuse to have shitty world building and inorganic explanations of the setting.
Don't even respond if you like 'apocalypse turns Earth into a video game' you deserve nothing but contempt.

>>24459323
The witcher, the last wish. I liked it, especially the ending. But it was a rough start, as someone who really enjoyed the games.

The legend of Drizzt, book 2. It's a good easy book.

Might start the mistborn or any sanderson standalone if I find it in french

>>24462196
Assuming all other things being equal , isekai.
Any examples of good ones with native characters?

>>24462217
"Kraken Rider Z" but it's pretty light on the 'game' elements most litrpgs have, "This used to Be about Dungeons" is also nice, much more character focused than big battles with huge numbers, "Dungeon Heart" would also recommend but it drops off after book 4 from good to meh.

Pre-Tolkien fantasy is so much more interesting. It's a broad genre, no set standards, world-building is often unique, not to mention prose is usually pretty varied. Everything written in the last 50-60 years is so derivative of Tolkien, with a few exceptions. I've never read branderson but just from the book covers and reading the first page I know exactly what its going to read like. not interested. no thanks

>>24462230
>Pre-Tolkien fantasy
Any examples you wanna share

>>24461816
>>24461832
>>24461851
>>24461993
He put them in cages in his basement.
he even went to jail for it, when he came out he couldn't find a job because no one would employ him so he became a writer.

>>24462234
NTA, but the books by chretien de troye are really good!

My favorite is Lancelot, or the knight of the cart. I liked the contrast between his superhuman strenght and his very fragile mind. His struggle between his loyalty to the king arthur and his slove to the queen,

Overall, very nice read. One of my favorite books

>>24462230
Funny, I just saw yesterday a video about Del Ray, I think, that promoted the so-called Tolkien formula, which isn't even properly based on Tolkien. Anyway, most fantasy I've read has been anything but.

>>24462234
I assume he's talking about English language fantasy, so I'm going to recommend The Worm Ouroboros which I'm reading at the moment. It's great.

Mommy bought me a nice hardcover ultra large version of The Princess Bride for Christmas. It's got colored illustrations and gilded edges.

I think I'm gonna read it after I finish my current book. Never read it before but seen the movie a dozen times as a kid. Is the book pretty good? The movie is based on the book, yes?

>>24462331
yes it's better. the main difference is the author spends the first 50 pages shit talking his fat fuck son and dreaming about cheating on his wife.

>>24462366
Oh.. okay.

What’s a fantasy book that does all of the traditional old cliches, but very, very well?

>>24462419
The Hobbit
The Lord of the Rings

>>24462419
The Lord of the Rings by John Ronald Reul Tolkien

>>24462419
The Broken Sword
The Stone and the Flute
The King of Elflands Daughter

>>24462419
The Odyssey by Homer Simpson

>>24462150
>audio book
I wish my mind was sound enough to into audiobooks. i'm too autistic. i need to have the words in front of me

>>24462419
The Bound and the Broken, allegedly. I haven't read it personally but that's usually what people who complain about it say.

>>24462419
Belgariad
A Man of His Word
EA Cycle
The Tales of Einarinn
Book of Words
Memory, Sorrow and Thorn

>>24460885
I think it sucks that the DCC author got too popular so he's only put out 10 chapters all year. He did write another novel in that time, which I personally don't care for. I know I'm grumbling. I just despite when an author hits an arbitrary level of success to the point where their productivity shits itself. I want DCC to be finished at any point. sooner than later. I don't care for the DCC live action movie or the webtoon. I'm surprised at the normalfag reaction from /lit/; while DCC is growing more and more popular, it still has yet to reach Top #5 bestseller list status so the normalfags here are going to shit all over it.

Does it matter which order I read these?:
Call of the Kappa
Call of the crocodile
Call of the arcade

>>24462568
holy shit
i'm probably the only person who frequents this general and has actually read these. nah they're standalone aside from sometimes sharing the same characters. i thought Arcade was one of the two best stories out of that entire series, arguably the best. Kappa and Crocodile were some of the better ones too.
on a side note, you won't get as much out of them if you're not familiar with /x/ or any contemporary 'conspiracy theories' or 'paranormal' schools of thought, for lack of better terms.

>>24462579
>if you're not familiar with /x/ or any contemporary 'conspiracy theories' or 'paranormal' schools of thought, for lack of better terms.
recommend any /x/ related lit?

Should I make a goodreads account?

>>24462587
Not really because that goes into nonfiction territory.
I read all of the Horror's End stories and was astonished by how similar it was to general /x/ rhetoric, which makes me wonder where the author learned what he wrote if it weren't for /x/.

>>24462511
>Memory, Sorrow and Thorn
Literal cuck fantasy

Any of you guys read a sci-fi/fantasy book when you were at a shit point in life that gave you new perspective, or enriched you in some way to get over yourself? Gay question but I'm just looking for something to get lost in.

>>24459323
>last?
The Crying of Lot 49
>reading?
The Hobbit
>next?
Possibly the Once and Future King. For now enjoying my comfy summer read.

Is there a Space Trucker book that doesn't try to be hard sci-fi or take itself too seriously? Not looking for marvel-tier injections of comedy but some brevity could be cool.

>Victra being described as half-naked wearing a dress with a neckline that goes down to her navel while being eight(8) months pregnant
mother of god...

>>24462628
there's "the centauri device" where what is basically a space trucker ends up being the Chosen One but it's all over the place
protag name is literally John Truck

>>24462641
WTF i love Red Rising now?!?

>>24462641
No wonder Pax was bricked up ready to risk it all for his godmother

>>24462641
she's probably has a rainforest down there too

>>24462641
>>24462653
pb is an undercover gooner. there was a gun in iron gold that Ephraim gets that was referred to as the r34 Widowmaker.

he's literally me

If I read only one Terry Pratchett book, what should it be? Going Postal?

>>24462613
if you'll allow a visual novel then Muv-Luv and Muv-Luv Alternative. it's not just a meme

>>24462665
Going Postal is fine. Guards, Guards is a popular entry point too.

>>24462659
>r34 Widowmaker.
so pb is into futa?

>>24462677
it's entirely possible

>>24462652
I'm just looking for han solo as a space trader. Logistics and the business side of things explained in depth. A little humor, a little adventure.

Anything like that you know of?

>>24462641
stuff like this is why Victra hard mogs musty horse

>>24462685
>musty horse
please don't insult my wife

>>24462684
nta
I haven't read it, but Quarter Share may be at least somewhat what you want. Maybe not so much the first book, but based on the titles it may become what you want.

I need Pierce to announce the release date for Red God so I can start my reread already

>>24462710
word on the street is next summer

What's the /lit/ equivalent of pic related?

>rereading Dungeon Crawler Carl #7
>Donut renaming herself the first time (from "The Champion of Nekhebit" to "WARLORD DONUT")
>didn't realize until the reread that her name was all caps
hehe i had a laff

>>24462589
If youre not an obese black non-binary lesbian, then dont bother.

>>24462665
Start with Rincewind

>>24462710
I think he's planning to announce it along with the news about an adaption. We will likely hear about it within the next few months I imagine.

>>24462897
I'm really afraid for that adaptation. Even with Pierce involved. Like if he gives it to Amazon is DoA no matter how close he is to it. I don't even trust HBO after what they did to House of the Dragon S2 and the shit GRRM is complaining about. It's gotta be Apple I feel like.

Issue is finding tall ass motherfuckers to play the Golds and Obsidians. Like who the hell do you cast as Victra? Don't say Debicki she's like 35.

>>24462910
I have no faith in a live action adaption. I think the only way it can get justice is to be animated in a western anime style like Castlevania. Live action will look stupid like you said with ridiculous tall golden people and then tiny red midgets running around. It will look off. Apple would be the better one for it as their sci-fi stuff is good (Foundation etc) but even then it will still be shit.

>>24462665
Small Gods

>>24462811
probably those crab books

finished Empire of Silence, it's average and as is usually mentioned, a bit too derivative - but at least the fascination is towards Wolfe, the GOAT.
Another gripe I had were a few uncharacteristic/weird character moments from Had and Valka (setups? idk)
I kind of didn't care for Had at the start, but he grew on me enough that I'm willing to give the next book a chance. I was annoyed with how flowery his voice is and with some of his mental segues, but after picking up that it's a sort of character flaw with how overly dramatic he could be, I now find it less annoying and a bit more endearing.

>>24463017
How pozzed is it?

>>24463022
the first is a lot worst than subsequent books

>>24463022
I have high poz tolerance, so not much. there is one mildly important character who is gay, but its not an important trait. for some reason I visualize him as Giancarlo Esposito in my mind.

>>24462542
Dude , I'm still waiting for Dominion of Blades 3

>>24461951
When he does THAT

>>24463028
> there is one mildly important character who is gay
Thanks, dropped.

>>24463049
faggot

I'm convinced spaceships would have more in common with submarines then massive battleships.

>>24459321 (OP)
What's your SFF palate cleanser when you read too much of the same thing? Do you go beyond genre literature?

>>24463246
I rotate between SF and fantasy for the most part.

>spaceships are kilometers-long sprawls of engines and radiators and antennae, held together by girders
>habitable region is a tiny capsule
>nobody's been to the engine block for generations, God knows what's out there

Books with this feel?

>>24462673
No, I'm not reading that, you tranny.

>>24463264
>Generation miles ship traveling under the speed of light
>No one has any idea of what a planet looks like
>Engine at the back starts having problems
>Small team of specialists sent to fix it
>It's a dangerous odyssey through centuries long systems falling in disrepair
>Find out that they were never going to actually make it as the sponsor went bankrupt right before but kept going anyways
>Only chance of survival is stopping the voyage in a nearby system and establish a colony there

>>24462938
>Live action will look stupid like you said with ridiculous tall golden people and then tiny red midgets running around. It will look off.
The disparity doesn't have to be that large. Not all golds are behemoths and reds are just average people.

>>24463295
Muv Luv is one of the most straightest, most heterosexual things you can read.
More hetero than most of what this general recommends, even.

>>24463304
>make it to the "engine" where you discover the arcane truth
>wormholes are real, but you have to travel out the old fashioned way to make the other end
>Your ship is essentially a bomb, your mini-civilisation was created to unknowingly sacrifice itself

>>24463305
Not just the heights but also the visuals of it will look silly. It will look cheap having bad wigs with red, gold, silver, green, yellow etc hair. It can only really be done well animated but I imagine the author won't want that because animated = less viewers.

>>24463264
Revelation Space kind of fits this criteria with the Nostalgia for Infinity

>>24462023
winds never fucking ever

>>24463310
That anon wasn't going to read anything you suggested. He wanted to call you his favorite newfag buzzword and go back to shitting up the website.

>>24463459
ASOIAFags stay in your containment thread

>>24463555
fuck you ASOIAFCHADS run this shit

>>24463422
Correct me if I'm wrong but not every gold is blonde or red a red head right?

>>24463601
they are though in various shades so those less "pure" will have more dirty gold for example

>>24462910
>>24462938
Hear me out: Studio Fortiche or Ankama Animations. Give it to the Frenchies.

If live action I think MGM+ is due for an epic scifi adaptation. I really hope Amazon doesn't get it, but with The Boys wrapping up and WoT canceled, they should be picking something else soon. I think Warner-Bros/HBO could do it well, but it depends entirely on the showrunner and writers just looking at Dune and Raised by Wolves. Apple could get it but they will probably DEI the fuck out of the cast, as it's hard to name one straight couple that isn't interracial on their streaming service. Maybe FX? They did great with Shogun.

>>24463031
Good luck with that one. Although he DID retcon the ending of Kaiju: Battlefield Surgeon and added an extra scene at the end which involves one or two of the DoB characters so maybe he'll get around to it one day.

Should I start C.S Friedman with In Conquest Born or This Alien Shore?

Whore after all.

>>24462612
Never understood this meme. Read it with trepidation because anons kept saying this and it became one of my favorite series. Aside from that one scene with the asshole prince (maybe) I don't understand what exactly the cuckoldry is.

>>24463775
There isn't any.

I'm looking for lighter reads to pass the time with while a family member is asleep in the hospital. Any trash tier enjoyable fantasy books with a blatant self insert "gigachad" main characters? Preferably a blatantly overpowered goody two shoes with a heart of gold here to save a grimdark/edgy setting.

>>24463422
what if all of the actors were regular sized but the reds were filmed really far away

>>24463785
The only gigachad main character I can think of is Sir Able of the High Heart in Gene Wolfe's Wizard Knight but that's far from trash tier
Read it anyway

>>24463785
Red Rising but it’s sci fi

>>24463808
Have already read that, but wouldn't mind a re-read.
>>24463811
>>24463819
Thanks anons!

>>24463025
>>24463028
That's a ritual poster, ignore.

>>24463524
Nigga I'm not reading an 80 hour anime visual novel about high school romance and mechas at the age of 31.
I wanted a book recommendation. Lmao.

>>24463965
>80 hour anime visual novel
It's closer to 100 hours achually NTA but I'm older than you so you owe the respect and submission go read it already you faggot

I just realized the Chinese (Tencent) own the rights to Conan as of 2020.

do you know jhon brunner? first time hearing zbout it. are his books good? apparently, his book 'stand on zanzibar' predicted some shit that will happen nowdays

I get the impression that this book has extreme wasted potential
>called 'wheel of time' but only explores past cycles in depth once
>a dozen books only about a snapshot of eternity
He could have have had multiple reincarnations across hundreds of thousands of years incorporating sci fi and modern times and medieval
characters losing and finding each other again life after life

Apparently there are basically no fantasy series exploring reincarnation of souls

>>24463654
I liked Raise By Wolves quite a bit
>>24462938
How was the Apple TV Foundation series?

>>24464096
the problem is the title for me. its hard to find a good title for a book. and the worldbuilding too is hard

>>24464104
I haven’t read the books but it’s very enjoyable and it has decent CGI for the space battles. It’s carried by based Lee Pace though some characters are annoying but pace as the Emperor is worth watching it for. New season is out next month which I’m excited for.

>>24463979
would love to see a chinese movie adaptation with jackie chan as conan

>>24464135
They could do that. They're just making video games right now. Apparently, they also own El Borak, Kull, Solomon Kane, Bran Mak Morn, etc. and want to make games with those characters in them.

>>24464135
john woo version of conan oh shit

>>24464036
He's great, his dystopic novels (pic related) are the best in the genre IMHO.

The Liveship Traders by Robin Hobb. Very entertaining but she can write much better, as The Tawny Man shows.

>>24459720
Based you.

>>24459821
The Gor series, of course!

Reading Pat Murphy's The City Not Long After. Hard to know if it's SF or fantasy but I'm loving it so far.

>>24461874
A. Bertram Chandler.

>>24464175
I saved the pic thank you

>>24461951
Don't read it as yet another science fiction or fantasy series, but like you'd read a mainstream classic: expect nothing in particular, read calmly.

>>24462511
>EA Cycle
My man.

>>24463685
This Alien Shore is kino

I love this book so much. Is there an equivalent for fantasy and horror?

>>24464336
If you want a simple listing, ISFDB can be used to see tons of stuff. For more detail there's SF Encyclopedia. I think there's a fantasy version too or it got folded into it. There are a lot other reference books that cover a bit for their time.

Since there was relatively so little compared to now, if you want only the stuff from mid 1900s and earlier, there's surely something that covers it all.

>>24464345
>I think there's a fantasy version too
Modern Fantasy: The 100 Best Novels? It's not the same. The pages of this book are like this.

>>24464096
>Apparently there are basically no fantasy series exploring reincarnation of souls
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_Champion

>>24463785
Son of the Black Sword

>>24463965
>He doesn't like giant robots
I refuse to believe you're a man (male)

>Heat number one of eight.
>Driver: Carl
>Navigator: The Champion of Nekhebit, Harbinger of Doom, Assassin of the Great and Feral Sekhmet, Princess Donut, She Who is Foretold to Bring the Gnashing of the Teeth and the Woe of All who Harbor Hope and is Known as the Oak Fell to Those Who Dare Utter Her Name
heh

>>24464432
My baby sister loves robots and therefore I have always assumed they are for little girls

>>24464428
How are the Elric novels?

>>24464521
It's true. Gundam only survived because girls loved the giant robots and political drama. That's why girl shows like Magic Knight Rayearth and Escaflowne had giant robots.

>>24464556
Weird and pulpy fun. Basically an angsty and sometimes psychedelic version of Conan the barbarian written by a guy on LSD.

Just don't expect something on the level of Robert E. Howard or Fritz Leiber when It comes to prose, but It makes up for It when comes to creativity and ideas IMO.

>>24462366
This was accurate. His contempt for his fat son not liking the book was hilarious. At one point he mentions his son can roll faster than he can walk.

Overall the book was alright. The writing was OK I wasn't a fan of the whole fake author backstory stuff taking place. Just didn't really interest me but whatever. Glad to have read it and never have to read it again.

I'd definitely disagree that the book is better than the movie. The movie slightly out edges it imo.

I read so fucking much this week bros. I read Simak's City, Ship of Magic, Confrontation + Escalation (books 2 and 3 of the gundam trilogy book), a howard conan short story The Slithering Shadow, and The Princess Bride.

SOMEBODY STOP ME

>>24464564
Meanwhile all guys care about is shipping cancer and relationship drama

>>24464582
Don't worry, you'll stop you before long.

>>24464556
The "novels" suck. The only good Elric stories are the original ones from the 60s.

Should I start Sun Eater or continue on to Dark Age?
It sucks that the Graphic Audio version of Dark Age isn't out until August that's why I might put it off. And even then that's only part 1 of 3.

>>24464762
Dark Age is my favorite in the series and it has a good set of narrators Darrow and Ephraim especially

>>24464765
I believe you but at this point I'm way too used to the Graphic Audio versions especially Darrow's and Ephraim's voice is superb too.
I might have to just bite the bullet and actually read it so I can do the voices in my head.

>Elle: Anyone else have to do this fan Meet-N-Greet bullshit?
>Donut: OMG YOU GET TO DO A FAN MEET AND GREET?
>Elle: Apparently, but it’s this huge room, and there’s just one guy in here. It’s just like the Butcher’s Masquerade. I have to wear a damn nametag.
>Donut: ZEV DO I GET TO DO THE MEET AND GREET?
>Zev: Well... No. So, the Meet and Greet program was set up a while ago for this floor just in case anybody made it this far, and we pretty much sold out immediately. It was set up so viewers could come to the planet and watch the end of the races from the stands, and after each race, there’s a reception and they could spend some time meeting their favorite crawler. But then everything, uh, happened. The quarantine is still in place. You can still come to the Earth system no problem, but once you’re here, you can’t leave. So all 500 fans who signed up for the Meet and Greet package cancelled. All except one guy. A soother. He’s a fan of Elle. Let’s say a superfan. He came despite the quarantine. They say he couldn’t even get anyone to fly him in, so he bought his own yacht just to come and meet her.
>Donut: OMG THAT IS KIND OF ADORABLE. ELLE TELL YOUR FAN I SAID HI.
>Elle: This creepy motherfucker is wearing a shirt with a cartoon, naked picture of me on it. I’m not getting anywhere near this pervert. He’s just standing there blushing. If they didn’t have saferoom rules in here, I’d have iced him already.
lolz

I should probably read BotNS and The Sparrow before I read Sun Eater, right? I'm DNFing The Devils, I just don't like it. I might try Abercrombie again later with First Law later, but I also have a desire to continue Mistborn and at least start Stormlight Archive at some point.

I read Shadow of the Torturer in a book club a few years ago, but I'll probably want to reread it before starting Claw.

>>24464814
>Elle: Oh god, he wants me to sign some giant pillow thing that has me on it. They didn’t even get my anatomy right. My nipples are not blue.
>Donut: I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT. THEY ALWAYS GIVE YOU BLUE NIPPLES IN THE SNICKS. I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, THOUGH. I FEAR THEY’VE OVER- EXAGGERATED CARL SO MUCH THAT IF HE EVER GETS A GIRLFRIEND FROM OUTSIDE THE DUNGEON SHE’S GOING TO BE NOTHING BUT DISAPPOINTED.
>Elle: Donut, I love you, but have you ever considered not saying everything that comes to you the moment it pops in your head?
>Donut: WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
lord this keeps going on. donut has been ON IT since the entirety of the last book

I appreciate the DCC quote posts because it's affirming my decision to stay far fucking away from it.

>>24464852
#gottem

>>24464582
how tf
I read like one book a month.

>in local used bookstore
>see highschool age kid looking at the massive wall of sci-fi/fantasy
>tell him to read some Robert E. Howard Conan books
>he picks one out and says he's going to buy it
>he takes me over to another area and puts this book in my hands
>tells me its really good and i should read it
>buy book

So... give it to me straight. How dog shit is this book going to be?

>>24464931
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show_book/1029811-sffg?book_id=23437156
Personally I wouldn't read it. As with much, I tried and didn't have any interest. It has over a million ratings on Goodreads because it's part of the Grishaverse, which is one of the most popular settings for the young women of TikTok and for BookTok in general.

>>24464931
In other words, nice story of unintentional mutually assured destruction because neither side had the best interests of the other in mind and didn't know what they were getting into..

>>24464931
Printed chud repellent but if you actually like reading;
It's very fun ocean 11 style heist where they keeps running into bigger obstacles they have no earthly business sticking their nose into.
Unfortunately for a relatively sleek self contained book the sequels quickly devolve into 'Hey remember that person from my other book series?' and it takes a big dip.
Read it, maybe the sequel, do not get sucked into the grishaverse.

>>24463785
Seconding >>24464430. Saga of the Forgotten Warrior is good slop: compelling but not super deep characters, light worldbuilding, lots of action. I had fun with it but I doubt I'll ever reread it.

>>24459321 (OP)
Just finished Hyperion, should I read the rest of the books or am I good to just stop here. I like the open-ended nature of it

>>24464762
If you read Dark Age you'll want to go into Light Bringer soon after, and Empire of Silence is too long to be a palate cleanser. I'd say start Sun Eater now, Ruocchio's books don't end on cliffhangers so you can pick Dark Age / Light Bringer back up in between.

>>24464962
>Hey remember that person from my other book series
Reminds me of Sanderson

Gideon the Ninth not good

>>24464852
me when i come to 4chan.org/lit/sffg/ and read hundreds of the same vance/wolfe/asimov/heinlein/bakker/rothruss/sanderson/clarke garbage
every.
single.
thread.

>>24464980
Yes.
Which do I mean?
Yes, either way is fine, though only the next rather than the rest.

>>24462811
Invasion of the Body Snatchers
Who Goes There?

>>24464834
keep it simple - BoTNS is a must read (and eventual reread), regardless of what you want to read next, or in the future.

>>24464980
No, just stop at Hyperion. The rest arent as good.

>>24465030
Isn't the whole selling point of that series lesbian necromancer(?) sex
t. haven't read it

So was the Prison Wife story good?

marenovum.substack.com/p/xv-captain-and-commander
I heard you like Patrick O'Brian fanfics in space

>>24460514
>is Joe Abercrombie's new book any good?
It depends. Did you like the 2021 Suicide Squad movie? That's basically what this book is.

>>24464096
>Apparently there are basically no fantasy series exploring reincarnation of souls
Deverry cycle by Katherine Kerr. Books 1 and 2 are great and you can stop there if you like. 3 sucks. 4-12 gradually recover but never reach the level of 1 and 2.

>>24463686
Why u keep posting this?

This was boring.

>>24465034
The quality of those authors vary wildly from one another, but I'm pretty damn sure none of them have foot fetish shit in their books, they're worth discussing over DCC by default.

>>24464977
I personally prefer Grimnoir Chronicles as the author's best work, but as far as power fantasy slop goes, you can certainly do worse than Forgotten Warrior.

Does the MC in this remain a giant simp cuck? And I don't use these terms lightly, the introduction of the girl he thirsts over and their interactions have been pure cringe, not to mention the part where you get a scene straight out of an NTR manga where she forgets about their appointment and he walks in on her out of breath from getting railed by a bell boy as she answers the door in only her t-shirt, which is a literal meme I've seen uploaded on the boorus a lot. It was actually pure comedy.

His self pity is getting pathetic too, like it was understandable when they were gonna send him to the inqisition to be a torturer, but when he's like "woe is me they'll marry me to this extremely hot girl like a piece of meat and make me lord of a fucking planet and I must cry if my life plans aren't going 100% as I want them to" he starts to become a bit insufferable.

>>24465034
What are you reading?

>>24465456
Is it pozzed?

>>24465490
There's faggots but it's nothing above the average sffg work so far, and I appreciate the fact that the author clearly separates shitting on the highly corrupt church institution while the MC himself is agnostic and his teacher talks about the human spirit etc, it's mainly the Name of the wind style love interest(?) that I have problems with so far, I don't know if that part of it continues being that bad though is why I ask since apparently a bunch of people here are shilling it.

Empire of Silence posting has really risen recently with some repeated content. Has Bakkerposting moved on?

Man, what a fucking letdown.

>not even a PINCH of grimdark aesthetic besides "here be war" and "there was blood"
>every single dialogue is literally Marvel tier quipping
>constant "haha sex" jokes, every third punchline is "my TWAT, haha! lets fuck!"
>everybody is tsundere for everybody else: the shy girl wants to kiss the elf girl and vice versa but theyre shy, the monk hates there werewolf but wants to fuck her and vice versa, the pirate hates the necromancer and wants to fuck her and vice versa...
>every battle has such a predictable outcome that I know 2 pages ahead whats gonna happen
>there is a "bossfight" after every few chapters with a set stage and bosses that are easily defeated by one of the heroes special abilities
>each character has one special ability which IS also their entire personality: shy elf is invisible and shy, rough and grumpy warrior is immortal, werewolf girl is ferocious and strong, vampire is calculating and mesmerizing, swashbuckler lady has swagger and charm, monk is pious and prude...


I can't believe that the guy who wrote Best Served Cold and the Age of Madness trilogy is the same Abercrombie that wrote this absolutely predictable slop. The book reads like the tutorial of a 6/10 console RPG game plays, the plot is foreseeable as fuck and the characters are as shallow as their one liners.
And don't give try and give him an out by claiming "b-b-but its just a YA novel", it isn't. It's an attempt to market his brand for a netflix miniseries or some shit and whether intentionally or not, he is turning his back on what made his previous books such good reads.

>>24465456
>>24465503
Nah MC stops being a cuck after EoS. Hadrian is a chad by the third book and Valka gets more palatable over time. Also the last gay character is written out of the story halfway through the second book.

>>24465514
It's just one person forcing it we know it's you Ruocchio you fat bastard

Conquistadors in space. Surely someone has written it.

>>24465515
>I can't believe that the guy who wrote Best Served Cold and the Age of Madness trilogy is the same Abercrombie that wrote this absolutely predictable slop.
I'm always shocked when this happens to authors and they start blatantly trend chasing. I still can't believe the same John Scalzi who wrote Old Man's War also wrote modern drivel.

>>24465503
Sounds like a reddit-tier book and not an sffg certified chad book.

>>24465565
Old man's war is also trash and modern drivel.

>>24464616
Moorcock said he wrote them for the money, so he could keep publishing New Worlds.

>>24464582
>Ship of Magic
Read the sequels, they're as entertaining as that first volume.

>>24465034
>Wolfe
>Clarke
>garbage
Stick to comic books, mate.

>>24465579
there's a VAST gulf between scalzi then and scalzi now

>>24465590
>>24465515
Add Roger Zelazny to that list. In the 70s his talent began to dry out and he began to churn out more Amber books.

>>24465590
He was always a reddit-tier writer and never good.

>>24465604
Zelanzy >>>>power gap >>>>>>Scalzi > Sandersoy.

>>24465515
if the followup trilogy to the first law series didn't give it away his first few books had all his ideas in them and now he's got nothing

>>24465630
That's true, in any case. In fact, I'd say that fantastic literature stopped being good in the 1980s, with all that market pressure.

>>24465634
Seems to have happen quite often. You burn through your ideas early on only for your books to retain popularity and publisher wants more.

>>24465657
Youre right, although we still have a few authors that are resisting the market pressure and writing good fantasy and sf, examples include M John Harrison, Adam Roberts, Tad Williams and Alastair Reynolds.

>>24464962
Kind of good news, I suppose. I have no interest in adding a new series of books to my list. It's good to hear that I can just read this one and be done with it. So it's a heist book? That's interesting I've never read a heist oriented book so this could be cool. Is it set in a magic/fantasy setting? Thanks for your reply by the way, I appreciate it.

I think one of my biggest gripes with sci Fi and fantasy is that everything is a series of books and a massive time sink/investment. I wish there was a list of standalone novels that are actually good.

>>24465586
Oh yeah I'm going to. I'm gonna read all 16 books. I'm trying to finish the drizzt series at the moment I'm on book 37/39 so three left and I'll finally be free!!!!

>>24465702
>resisting the market pressure
I doubt it. Before the 80s, British SF used to be something else than long, long space operas.

>>24465712
>I'm gonna read all 16 books
Realms of the Elderlings? Good, but remember that other trilogies of the series have a more calm style than The Liveship Traders.

>>24465708
>Is it set in a magic/fantasy setting?
Yes, it's sort of an age of navigation/industrial revolution but with magic.
This specific book is spends a lot of time in Not!Venice/Amsterdam and Not!Norway.

>>24465490
No. Read it.

>>24465708
>I wish there was a list of standalone novels that are actually good.
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/21551.Best_Stand_Alone_Science_Fiction_

>>24465634
>if the followup trilogy to the first law series didn't give it away his first few books had all his ideas in them and now he's got nothing

It's not even that, beacause I really enjoyed AoM and binged The Heroes and Best Served Cold.
Even Red Country became an enjoyable read after the first few chapters and I remember all of the above books and some of the cool parts they had.

I don't blame Abercrombie for trying to broaden his audience in general, but this particular way of selling out and making everything about lame fart jokes or sex jokes while turning every adventure into an RPG trope fest is so fucking disappointing. His Shattered Sea cycle, while aimed at a younger audience, was twenty times better in every aspect thab Devils.

>>24465588
>what I like = good
>what you like = garbage
sasuga
Thrilling argument.

The premise for The Devils is good; even if thoroughly generic, but I was still looking forward to reading it. I hadn't read any Abercrombie though since the first First Law trilogy and even though I mostly despise LE SUBVERSIVE grimderp now I had no idea how far he had fallen as a writer until anons started reviewing the book and posting excerpts from it. Absolutely dreadful.

>>24464104
>How was the Apple TV Foundation series?
basically completely unrelated to the books. they just went and made up their own story that shares some character names with the original (though most of them have been made into black women) and completely misses the point of the series

>>24465743
>https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/21551.Best_Stand_Alone_Science_Fiction_

Hey! Thanks! Did you check the list out? Is it actually good stuff? I find now days that lists are so hit or miss. I suppose I could filter it to remove anything released in the last 25+ years to ensure it isn't full of preachy garbage maybe...

Did you see anything on there that stands our or is particularly good?

>>24465718
Yeah I've read the first 3 assassins books or whatever they are called. The Fool is one of the best characters I've read to date. Super interesting character. I need to go back and google what the fool's deal was towards the end of that third book. There was some talk about him being androgynous or gay or maybe even a woman. I forget but I'd like to know what his deal was towards the end of that book.

How do you guys feel about Poul Anderson. Does he have a sexual fetish for centaurs? Are centaurs something that scientists theorize would be a likely evolution or creature type? Seems like. Alot of his books have centaur humanoids. Maybe he just really likes centaurs.

Anyone got his phone number. I can call and ask him.

>>24465800
>There was some talk about him being androgynous or gay or maybe even a woman
In Fool's Errand he has sex with a woman

>>24465762
Yep.
Sorry your taste is trash

>>24465806
niiiice

>>24465810
>>>/r/books

>>24465805
He died in 2001, anon.

Anyway, he was a minor writer although popular; and always better at short stories than novels.
>SF Masterworks Book of the New Sun
In the UK you can find volume 2 at a reduced price but not volume 1, interestingly. And no Urth of the New Sun, alas.

>>24465778
There is no such thing as a good premise.

I want to go back and re-read this book that I read as a kid. I remember reading it in my school library over a 2 week period and really enjoying it.

I sat and pounded chatgpt for 45 minutes giving the brief descriptions I knew and eventually found it. It was mainly due to me knowing the cover had a lot of orange and an ogre or giant. I remembered the protag was shrunk down or in a giant world and there was a point he got trapped in a birds cage.

I was so pumped to find this book i'd been searching for on and off for about 10 years. It will be a massive waste of my time reading it but I may get some good nostalgia out of it. Who knows it might even be decent.

If you're ever searching for a book give chatgpt a shot. I was shocked I was able to find it but to date no other avenues of searching led me to it. I probably tried a dozen plus times over a decade to google and find it...

>>24465824
Maybe not nowadays.

>>24465821
>He died in 2001, anon.
Oh dang. Bummer. I haven't read ANY Gene Wolfe yet but I'll get to it eventually. I bought probably 100 books 9 or so months ago and am slowly making my way through everything.

I bought the entire The Tomb (Adversary Cycle/Repairman Jack) books in hardcover. I read the first two books about 7 years ago and they were so damn good.

If you haven't read The Tomb, check it out. It's about an abandoned castle in romania during ww2 that some soldiers start using as an outpost. It's the resting place of an ancient vampire. There is an order of light and dark thing going on where these 2 forces and groups of people have been keeping each other in check since the crusades or something.

Sort of similar concept as those Russian Night Watch and Day Watch movies. Anyways it's pretty good!

I'm gonna start reading Malazan in the next month or so. I'm pretty excited. I hope it's good. I had to re-purchase multiple books because stupid sellers had wrong ISBNs and I kept getting shipped smaller in size tpbs of this book.

The experience, however, did help me learn more about the sizing of trade paper backs in print and more effective ways of sourcing exactly the versions I need. Hopefully I can save myself some headaches in the future.

>>24465800
There's a character in the Tawny Man trilogy who is 100% convinced that the Fool is a woman who wants to fuck Fitz. He isn't and he doesn't

Did you guys ever see that redditor who posted a picture of his bookshelf where he owns EVERY single SF Masterworks book? I'm so fucking jelly. I spent about 8 hours one day sourcing them all and adding everything two about 4 websites carts. I think it was around $1300 which isn't too insane. I quickly deleted my browsing history and found a torrent of all the books and then made a bologna sandwich. Crisis averted.

>>24465812
>/r/books has better taste than (you)
How grim. Sad, even.

>>24465857
>more bad faith newfagbabble

>>24465488
>What are you reading?
What a shocker you didn't get a reply, let alone a genuine one. I too am interested in what he's reading.

>>24465857
How much do the liveship traders books tie into the other 13 books that feature fitz and the fool? I really want to see Althea and Winthrow interact with fitz and the fool. I really hope their paths cross.

I hope we get to see them using the liveship to go into battle against the red raiders or whatever they are called. I'm hoping we get to venture to the rain wilds and learn more about their trinkets and things they sell, the source of the magic being from dragons upriver, and their economy and culture.

I'll prob start the second liveshjp traders book this weekend and knock it out in a day.

>>24465847
Why does Toll The Hounds have a black TOR stamp and the others are all white. This shit pisses me off so much. They clearly had a standard and then someone randomly goes "Oh hey lets change this stamp to black for no reason other than on a whim?" I wish I knew how these creative decisions get made and why nobody steps up and points out it will break uniformity. Same thing with dust covers and sizes of books. Does nobody respect their autistic retarded customers or their shelves?

>>24465871
>Does nobody respect their autistic retarded customers
Wait until you find out who owns the publishing houses.

>>24465743
>ctrl+f #1
>16 books on the list are part of a series

What the fuck is wrong with people? I don't care if you CAN read one book and not have to read the rest. If the book is part of a series it is not a standalone novel in my book.

>>24465904
>If the book is part of a series it is not a standalone novel in my book.
Your book needs a rewrite.

>>24465847
As a recent malazan enjoyer, take your time because it is overwhelming at first but eventually everything will click and you'll appreciate it. There are also reader guides around to help new readers if you need them

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pyndZaoaeuianSo4yo8heZW-j73nfvxk/view

>>24465847
How is that Hobb trilogy?

>>24465922
I haven't read it yet. I've only read the first 3 fitz books and the first liveship traders book. I think those 3 shaman's crossing books get read at the very very end. I don't think they're related to the other 16 books except it's in the same setting?

Someone will know better than me.

>>24465854
If one day you go to the UK, look for HMV shops. They sell books from that collection, two for £9. Not all of them, but they have the ones by Dick and the Strugatskis among others.

>>24465867
>How much do the liveship traders books tie into the other 13 books that feature fitz and the fool?
Good question, but somehow I don't think they do. Maybe https://theplenty.net/ has the answer?

>>24465926
>I don't think they're related to the other 16 books
They're not, her ISFDB entry confirms it so.

>>24465867
The further along the series you get, the more important Liveship Traders becomes, it all comes together in the end.
>>24465926
Those three books have nothing to do with Realm of the Elderlings except being written by the same author

>>24465904
OK, then try >>24465854. I cannot, no one can confirm there are no sequels or anything in this collection though.

>>24465943
Her novel Alien Earth is SF, I guess.

>>24465805
>that LoA edition of Dick
Nice, very nice.

>>24465839
The first book is called The Keep. Sorry about that. The Tomb is the second book. The Keep is dope.

>Darrow finding the Ashlord on his death bed
My MC Can't Be This Retarded

Man I wish I could read the Red Rising sequels for the first time again

Bros I'm at a used bookstore and I picked up these 4" tall super tiny Game of thrones books. Anyways I expected them to be super unwieldy but I was wrong. They're actually sewn binding and similar page thickness and feel of a decent mini bible. Real thin pages, binding super responsive.

I'm sort of shocked that these would be able to be read comfortably.

Some pics of their used books. I'll post another if anyone is interested. Who the fuck is Jaser Fforde?

>>24466109
Dunno how people buy special editions of an incomplete series

>>24466135
I've never read any of that series but you're right.. it's a box set for an incompete series. That's insane. Just goes to show you how consooomer coomer hungry the got crowd is..

>>24466121
>I'll post another if anyone is interested
Yes please. Meanwhile, just buy the William Gibson and Roger Zelazny books, the rest is worthless.

>>24466147
Actually, just buy The Chronicles of Amber by Zelazny. Those Gibson books are minor.

>>24466147
https://imgur.com/a/0qBqbEI

Here is 18 pics instead of me spamming the thread. Let me know if you see anything real good.

>>24466167
I'm afraid none of my browsers with uBlock like Imgur.

>>24466182
I had the same issue lol thread is past bump limit anyway anon can post whatever

I'm
>>24466147
They have roadmarks and lord of light. Which outta those 2 should I grab? Also some guy I was chatting with who was shopping found a fritz Leiber short story book he gave me to buy. He said there aren't anymore of his books on the stack bc people buy them. He said he isn't sure it's the best place to start but it's all they have.

It's called Night's Black Agents

>>24466192
>only 360 posts
>other boards get 500

>>24466198
I don't know why one of the slower boards get such a low bump limit

>>24466197
>lord of light.
> Night's Black Agents
These two are good.
I can't see them perfectly, but get the ones by Bester, Delany, Dick (if they're there: VALIS, Time Out of Joint, Martian Time-Slip, The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch, Dr Bloodmoney, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Ubik, Flow my Tears the Policeman Said, A Scanner Darkly), Gibson & Sterling, Le Guin, Haldeman, the Strugatskis except for Monday Begins on Saturday, Stapledon, and Tevis

>>24466197
Get those Greg Keyes books. He's super underrated. Kingdoms of Thorn and Bone is fantastic.

>>24466121
Nearly complete set of Donaldson's The Gap Cycle minus the first book. That's a super underrated space opera masterpiece imo

>>24466213
Also, what's their price?

>>24465854
>jealous of ugly paperbacks
grim

>the unholy consult came out in 2017
bros it's been 8 years. I don't think we're getting the no-god series.

>>24466219
Thanks I'll grab them and the other ones anon, or you, recommended above.

I'm at an Irish Pub now drinking a butterscotch whiskey coffee and reading Poul Anderson's The Broken Sword. This elf just banged a troll.

>>24466280
>I'm at an Irish Pub now drinking a butterscotch whiskey coffee and reading Poul Anderson's The Broken Sword.

>>24466280
beautiful

>>24466222
Lord of Light was $6.75 and was new so I couldn't use trade in credit to buy it which was a bummer.
Night's Black Agents was $2.50

>>24466282
Sounds like you're living the life my boy

>>24466346
Too expensive for those of us who live in the UK. I mean, we have charity shops in every corner

does wheel of time get better? Am on the fifth book but it seems like the formula is always the same. Its a nice read and world building is good but I still fail to see why its so highly praised. Also the long passages about the female characters talking about men is just plain weird who the fuck comes up with that?

>>24466414
>does wheel of time get better?
No.
>Also the long passages about the female characters talking about men is just plain weird who the fuck comes up with that?
Men with actual experience and understanding of women. Robert Jordan's depiction of the female psyche is unparalleled.

>>24465919
Never understood why so many people call Gardens of the Moon's the difficult book.
Its storytelling is good enough for any at least above novice level person to not get lost.
Like, here is the typical MC's sort of detective line.
Here is the bigass battle with the political intrigue behind the mages.
Here is the squad of badass dudes infiltrating the city.
Here is the city's political intrigues.
Fucking simple enough to just sit back and enjoy the epicness and badassnes.

>>24466424
they really talk and act like that? I thought it was just to justify the story progression like half of the shit in the book could be avoided if they just talked about it.

>>24466429
Yea GotM isn't bad at all. i'll never understand the shit it gets.

>>24466432
You've never worked in an office with mostly women, have you? You ever wonder why the descriptor "catty" exists?

>>24466432
Jordan is an incel, ignore the fans.

books with this aesthetic?

>>24466429
I just thought it was a bit boring? Everyone is the most powerful mage channeling the greatest magic or the fastest assassin the best spymaster ever etc. None of it matters because I don‘t care about anyone

>>24466486
Just like that picture, just get AI to write some slop for you.

>>24466135
ngl I specifically pirated ASOIAF when I started reading it 10 years ago specifically because of my autism of not having a matching set.

And hear I am now thinking I should've bought the set in the other anon's pic because that actually IS the completed set

>>24465847
>find a book by Steve Erickson
>mistake him with Steven Erikson
>it's fantasy but totally different to Malazan, and also quite good
I love it when it happens.

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>>24466121
Read the Belgariad

>>24466226
This. Jealously is for weak men.