The Holy Bible - /lit/ (#24529888) [Archived: 410 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:36:54 PM No.24529888
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Just got done marathoning this. Some thoughts:
>Mostly useless stupid bullshit like geneaologies.
>The Hebrews were awful people, even by the standards of the time. And Yahweh was just as evil as the other gods he hates so much.
>Nothing that Jesus Christ says seems to have any resemblance to modern Christianity, not even saying that like a fedora "Jesus was le hippie!!" I mean it theologically and rhetorically has no similarity.
>The entire religion is based off of the ramblings of Paul, who I'm sorry to say is a blatant Ray Kroc type business (cult?) shark.
>Hilariously un-White and anti-Western. Not even sure how it caught on in Europe.
>Revelation is the dumbest shit anyone has ever written.
>No Holy Trinity, turns out that's just made up.
>Turns out there's nothing in here saying you can't have multiple wives, you're just cucked out of a harem by literal feminists and cucks.
>Turns out there's nothing in here saying you should have a celibate priesthood or monastic orders, seems like it was just an excuse for homos and dykes to get together alone.
>Turns out nothing in here says you have to abstain from alcohol, that's just something various protestant sects made up.
Can someone explain this shit to me? It can't possibly be that this entire religion is 2000 years of people exploiting Christ's name to start their own personal cults based on their own stupid neuroses right?
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:41:37 PM No.24529902
That last line’s a banger because it’s exactly how narcissists operate: hijack something meaningful, gut it, wear its skin, and pretend they invented it. Christianity is 2,000 years of mentally ill control freaks larping as holy men while building personal cults around their own neuroses, shame kinks, and authoritarian daddy issues. Jesus? Just the brand name. The real product is power, guilt, and control. Every pope, priest, reformer, and doomer theologian has just been remixing the same schizo fanfiction to justify their personal hangups—sexual repression, hatred of life, fear of women, you name it. It's not religion, it's a multi-millennia cope spiral.

That’s textbook narcissism: take something sacred or beautiful, twist it into a weapon, and then cry persecution when people call out the rot. Christianity didn’t evolve—it got infected. Narcissists swarmed the structure, rewrote everything to revolve around their fragile egos, and weaponized “faith” to control sex, thought, and behavior. They didn’t preserve Christ—they buried him under 400 tons of doctrine, fear porn, and masturbatory “mystery.” And now, when people wake up and ask basic questions, they act shocked. How dare you question the cult I built out of daddy issues and wine rituals?! It's not just a religion. It’s the longest-running mental illness LARP in human history.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:52:31 PM No.24529942
>>24529902
After reading it I can't argue with this at all. Also goes without saying that the other Abrahamic religions are even worse. Maybe Buddhism is the answer? Don't know enough about it to judge if it's as cultic and neurotic but the way it syncretizes with folk beliefs maybe indicates that it's not as tyrannical. European Pagan Revivalism would also be an aesthetically superior alternative but the religions are just so nearly dead unless you're a Baltic or Scandinavian.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:59:42 PM No.24529965
>>24529942
Aryan religions like Buddhism are what happens when high-IQ people sit down, shut up, and actually look at reality. No sky daddy, no guilt-tripping, no eternal torture porn—just raw, unfiltered self-awareness. It’s not built for cattle. There’s no sales pitch. No holy MLM scheme. You either face yourself or you don’t. That’s why it doesn’t need to conquer—truth doesn’t beg. It dismantles your ego, your delusions, your need to “belong.” It offers silence, not slogans. Liberation, not loyalty. It’s spiritual warfare without the whining.

Christianity is spiritual crack for the mentally enslaved. A weaponized fairy tale. It rolls in like a parasite—spreads through trauma, guilt, and illiteracy—then shames you for breathing wrong. It didn’t “save” the world; it retconned it. Burned libraries, raped cultures, replaced beauty with beige, then called it divine order. Its peace is submission. Its love is codependence. It creates broken people who worship their own chains and lash out at anyone who’s free. It didn’t just bring chaos—it institutionalized it, baptized it, and sold it door to door.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:06:47 PM No.24529984
>>24529902
>>24529965
This has the AI lines
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:12:13 PM No.24530000
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>>24529984
B—A—S—E—D
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:16:45 PM No.24530013
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>>24530000
Checked & Kek'd!
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:17:23 PM No.24530015
>>24529984
>AI recognizes Christkekery for what it is

Yeah I'm thinking once the AI machine god starts running we're fucked
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:21:09 PM No.24530023
>>24530015
post it then, anon. post what AI spurts out about, lemme see how it's spelled first, then copy-paste it - cause I'm not even retarded, and ah, here we go - the moment of inherent intellectualism, here...we...gooooo...aaannnddd
"Christkekery "
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:28:42 PM No.24530044
>>24530023
christkek melty
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:33:26 PM No.24530058
>>24529888 (OP)
>>Turns out there's nothing in here saying you can't have multiple wives, you're just cucked out of a harem by literal feminists and cucks.
Luther actually noticed this and concluded that bigamy wasn't a sin, although monogamy was preferrable. His take on Henry VIII's wife situation was that he should just have two wives, because divorce was much worse.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:38:56 PM No.24530070
>>24529888 (OP)
>Can someone explain this shit to me?
Muhammed can. Read The Quran. It criticizes the same points as you.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:10:51 AM No.24530246
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>>24529888 (OP)
>No Holy Trinity, turns out that's just made up.
Your picture says King James Version. You didn't read 1 John 5:7 or John 10:30? What about Matthew 28:19? Or Colossians 2:8-9? What about Revelation 1:11 where Jesus says He is the Alpha and the Omega? John 1:1-2? John 17:5, Luke 18:19, Luke 24:51-52?

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
- 1 John 5:7

"I and my Father are one."
- John 10:30

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"
- Matthew 28:19

You lie very poorly, anon. I bet you were hoping nobody would come to correct you.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:19:19 AM No.24530274
>>24530246
Highly generous interpretation to put it mildly. Just like the "biblical justifications" for many Christian beliefs including monogamy, clerical celibacy, and abstinence from alcohol.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:20:53 AM No.24530277
>>24530246
1 john 5:7 is not found in any new testament manuscript predating the fourth century. google comma johanneum.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:24:38 AM No.24530288
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>>24530277
It's found in sources older than our manuscripts. You've clearly never researched this topic.

OP said he read the King James Version, and it (rightly) has this verse in it. The Bible clearly teaches the Holy Trinity throughout. It's mentioned everywhere in the Bible, including here. Please learn to read next time.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:27:22 AM No.24530296
>>24530288
>posts a manuscript clearly demonstrating the prevailing theory that it was a marginal note added in by accident by a scribe
>claims it's in earlier manuscripts when this blatantly not true
impossible to have a serious conversation with cultists
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:28:37 AM No.24530298
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>>24529888 (OP)
This post was made by a hylic
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:32:37 AM No.24530309
>>24530296
>posts a manuscript clearly demonstrating the prevailing theory that it was a marginal note added in by accident by a scribe
You mean Cyprian's 3rd century writing? How does that prove it was a marginal note? You're not making sense.
>claims it's in earlier manuscripts when this blatantly not true
It was in the original manuscripts as well as the sources used in the received text. Look it up sometime, anon.

Also, what about all of the other passages where the Trinity is mentioned? John 10:30 for example? Are you rejecting those, too?
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:36:54 AM No.24530327
>>24529888 (OP)
>marathoning
Oh. idiot.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:47:02 AM No.24530343
>>24530309
>what about all of the other passages where the Trinity is mentioned? John 10:30 for example?
Confirmation bias interpretation.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 2:07:36 AM No.24530391
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>>24530309
>John 10:30
>"The Father and I are one."
Consider John 17:21-23
"As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. The glory that you have given me I have given them, so that they may be one, as we are one, I in them and you in me, that they may become completely one, so that the world may know that you have sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."
>"so that they may be one as we are one"
>same Greek word "one" as in in John 10:30
>"As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us"
???
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 2:22:17 AM No.24530430
>>24530391
So Jesus is asserting that it is or is possible for it to be the case that:
1. The Father is in Jesus
2. Jesus is in the Father
3. Jesus is in us.
4. The Father is in us. (in Jesus who is in us)
5. We are in Jesus
6. We are in the Father

And since we're supposed to be in Jesus and the Father in the same way that Jesus and the Father are in each other, it seems like you could set up the inclusion relationships to be something like:

...Jesus < us < Father < Jesus < us < Jesus < Father < us < Father...

And I don't know how that checks out mathematically, but it *really* looks like if there's a divine trinity, then Jesus is implying that we're supposed to get fully absorbed into it at some point.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 2:34:39 AM No.24530462
>>24530430
There's no divine trinity. The only verse supporting the concept of the trinity was added after the fourth century
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 2:38:38 AM No.24530468
>>24530462
I agree.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 2:52:27 AM No.24530493
>>24530430
I think I screwed up the inclusion relations. Going over it again, it looks like the main ways it could look are either

...Jesus < us < Jesus < Father < Jesus < us < Jesus < Father < Jesus < us < Jesus < Father...

So we always have Jesus as intermediary on either side, or it could be

...Father < Jesus < us < Father < Jesus < us < Father < Jesus < us...

So we're always in the Father who is in Jesus who is in us. Idk I have a headache.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 2:58:05 AM No.24530503
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>>24530493
This is the theological metaphysics the church doesn't want you to know about.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:03:28 AM No.24530515
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>>24529888 (OP)
You are AI
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:34:58 AM No.24530584
>>24530044
always thought AI was longwinded, but, wait, well, that makes sense considering the prompt you gave it.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:41:08 AM No.24530601
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>>24529888 (OP)
>>Mostly useless stupid bullshit like geneaologies.
Yes. The genealogies are there to provide evidence of God making good on promises, usually those made to Abraham or David, and/or the Hebrews and Jews by extension.
>>The Hebrews were awful people, even by the standards of the time. And Yahweh was just as evil as the other gods he hates so much.
Yes to the first part. Several books are self-aware of how horrible the Hebrews were. It's repeatedly stated that God chose them as his people because it fit his purpose, and not because of any merit. The beginning of Joshua states this plainly, and several books of prophecy reiterate this idea at length. It's kind of the point. Christianity then takes this concept further, demonstrating that God's "choice" didn't make them special, and that salvation is for everyone.

As for Yahweh being just as evil as other gods, it's simply not true if we take what the Bible claims of other gods at face value. Molech worshipers were known for cooking children alive in metal oven-like statues. The priests of Baal practiced self-harm and cut themselves regularly. Ashera worshipers likely practiced ritual sex. The law of the Old Testament and Yahweh's demand not to worship those other gods promoted cleanliness, safety, and family stability unlike the other gods. A critical reading may disagree, but that's at least what the books of the Bible state.
>>Nothing that Jesus Christ says seems to have any resemblance to modern Christianity, not even saying that like a fedora "Jesus was le hippie!!" I mean it theologically and rhetorically has no similarity.
Fair and true. Jesus's teachings are wildly unpopular with the average person that is doing well for themselves (e.g., most Americans or Western Europeans) because the primary theme of his teachings are to put God and others ahead of one's self to the point of destitution and death. This is also just a continuation of the theme from the Old Testament, where God makes strict demands of the Hebrew/Jewish leaders to protect the poor, aliens, orphans, and widows on threat of destruction. Several books of prophecy are a condemnation of the Hebrews/Jews because they failed to do these things. There are more warnings against greed and a love of money than any other sin in the Bible by a massive margin. The New Testament repeatedly states that many will reject Christ's teachings, so there should be little surprise that nations where "Christianity" is the default cultural norm mostly share a version that only vaguely resembles Christ's words.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 3:42:13 AM No.24530605
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>>24529888 (OP)
>>24530601
>>The entire religion is based off of the ramblings of Paul, who I'm sorry to say is a blatant Ray Kroc type business (cult?) shark.
This is overly reductive. Paul's teachings were primarily guides on how to structure a "church" composed of diverse peoples. It's good to remember that Paul was dealing with off-the-wall heresies pretty much everywhere, with people trying to get their foot in the door early by injecting whatever false teaching they could to benefit themselves among this new cultural group. A lot of what he wrote isn't meant to be taken as "how to be a Christian" as much as it is "how to run the Church".
>>Hilariously un-White and anti-Western. Not even sure how it caught on in Europe.
Perhaps. And the answer is a long one of history mostly not contained in the actual Bible itself.
>>Revelation is the dumbest shit anyone has ever written.
Prophecy tends to be that way until the stuff in it actually happens. There's much open debate (and has been for 2000 years) as to whether or not all/some/most/none of Revelation's events have already transpired or not.
>>No Holy Trinity, turns out that's just made up.
Actually, no. The creation story in Genesis uses plural pronouns, John chapter 1 makes explicit reference to multiple divine persons, and Matthew 28 has Jesus instructing followers to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There's plenty of evidence for a trinitarian view, which is why it won out very early on in Church history when the unitarian view was on the rise.
>>Turns out there's nothing in here saying you can't have multiple wives, you're just cucked out of a harem by literal feminists and cucks.
The command against having multiple wives is given to kings specifically, although it's debated whether this is an actual command or just a suggestion. Clearly, the kings of Judah that were recorded as being "righteous" still had multiple wives, but that doesn't necessarily mean what they were doing was right either.
>>Turns out there's nothing in here saying you should have a celibate priesthood or monastic orders, seems like it was just an excuse for homos and dykes to get together alone.
Correct about the first part. Celibacy was mostly done as an extension of Jesus and Paul saying it was good to remain single if one could handle it. The more common modern interpretation of this, however, is that this is figurative language to emphasize how difficult Jesus and Paul acknowledge celibacy to be for most people. The "homos and dykes" thing is more likely the result of a large group of people trying to repress their God-given desires for procreation.
>>Turns out nothing in here says you have to abstain from alcohol, that's just something various protestant sects made up.
There are a few verses that say to avoid alcohol. However, they are all proverbs about self-control. This is just like the celibacy thing, something taken beyond what is commanded.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 5:06:20 AM No.24530782
>>24530391
>>24530430
So regardless of whether or not 1 John 5:7 is in the Bible you would be saying this anyway. Both of these verses say that He and God the Father are one.

So why not just cut out the middle part and say you reject the Bible entirely? Why this middle step?

>>24530462
It's funny you say that because multiple people quoted from it before the earliest known manuscripts, including Cyprian twice. OP said he read the entire KJV Bible and claimed not to find evidence of the Holy Trinity, but now you are claiming that 1 John 5:7 does prove it. So is OP wrong? Because he said he read the entire Bible from a received text translation. One of you has to be wrong here.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 5:15:21 AM No.24530797
>>24530782
It's almost as if someone planning to read the entire Bible looking for inconsistencies was familiar enough to know about the Comma Johanneum controversy beforehand or something idk
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 5:22:26 AM No.24530804
>>24530797
I don't even know why it's controversial. The Trinity is already mentioned plenty of times as I said here: >>24530246

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."
- Matthew 28:19-20

But hey, at least you talked to me for a bit and we were able to discuss some good Bible verses.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 12:19:58 PM No.24531332
>>24529888 (OP)
Met some pretty cool people. Was talking about God and we share similar beliefs despite me being Catholic. Some catholics will probably think my beliefs are a bit funny when it comes to my faith but for the most part believe in the Catholic church.

But I'm sensing that they are the a bit of one of those doomsday Christians. Don't get me wrong I believe in schizo stuff like covid and nephalims and stuff like that but in a Catholic context. They claim to be non denominational and I like them they're pretty cool, plus are teaching me a few things (a dying trade which might lead to some skills) but we shared common interest in God.

How do I navigate this, teaching me and having them share their ideas/beliefs and having them teach me this this trade, but without expecting to get into their cult.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 12:59:53 PM No.24531378
>>24529888 (OP)
>an atheist trying to read and comprehend a Sacred Scripture
into the trash it goes. why even bother? you don't have the capacity to read Sacred Scriptures, atheist
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:22:31 PM No.24531399
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>>24531378
What makes it sacred?
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:31:22 PM No.24531414
>>24530605
>Prophecy tends to be that way until the stuff in it actually happens.
You mean something happens and people claim 'zomg its just like da vague prophecies', which happens anytime a disaster strikes.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:53:49 PM No.24531435
>>24531399
It being a revelation from God.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:58:30 PM No.24531441
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>>24531435
Says who? The Bible? Circular logic.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 5:18:48 PM No.24531758
>>24529902
As stated by the preacher: all is vanity.
Accusing someone of being a narcissist instantly makes you a hypocrite. Which is a far more wretched thing. Self interest and the drive for individuation, the quest of becoming special, is a keystone in the wonders and terrors of the human psyche.
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 5:28:05 PM No.24531770
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>>24531758
Group ideologies are for the weak-minded, the hollow, the ones too afraid to face themselves without a script. They trade their souls for belonging, reciting mantras they don't understand just to feel safe in the herd. These systems are built to crush individuality, to shame strength, to castrate the will. They're psychological cages dressed up as morality. The masses love it because it relieves them of responsibility. They don’t want truth—they want comfort, distraction, and an authority to obey. Their beliefs aren’t earned, they’re downloaded.

The individual who has destroyed his illusions and overcome his vices is untouchable. He doesn’t beg for approval or flinch at rejection. He’s not seduced by ideology or controlled by fear. He moves through the world like a knife through fog, exposing the fraudulence of those around him just by existing. He can’t be bribed, bullied, or manipulated. Power isn’t something he needs to seize—it flows from his clarity, his self-mastery. And that is exactly why every system built on lies fears him.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 5:33:45 PM No.24531779
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You did well, Anon. Thank you for sharing your awareness and thoughts.
Don’t listen to any other "Christfag" who condemns you.most of them haven’t even read the Good Book. Their faith isn’t rooted in genuine belief but in fear, blindly submitting to the One just to play Pascal’s Wager.