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I dreamt of her last night

Jannies should ban this thread again

>>24671650 (OP)
One of the reasons I want to have casual sex is that I feel hooking up with attractive women would be the ultimate validation of my physical appearance and personality (at least in terms of charisma). It would silence the whispers of insecurity on these topics within my brain for once and for all.

I keep saying “No“ to life because I was born to this life without direction. All alone.

Never in my have I seized the day.

The average litcel is a 3/4 Christian discerning coward

My therapist thinks there is a better than likely chance I'm on the autistic spectrum, and could possibly have some form of asperger's. It does explain why I was a bloody wreck as a kid, but I can't believe no one around me considered it a possibility. I guess it was because my family was full of high achieving extroverts who thought I was lazy/stupid/etc. At least I have some comfort in knowing there was an underlying reason for my becoming a complete fucking loser.

Are women more attracted to poets or novelists?

>>24671708
No, you'd just live a year and think them again.
Get a wife that is good looking.

>>24672063
All of that is bullshit for the exact reason in your last paragraph, to give you an excuse.

>>24672087
Poets fuck, novelist pine.

>>24672134
What about philosophers? Theologians?

>>24672138
Philosophers drink and no woman wants them. Theologians used to drink, but women only want them if they're truly blessed by god.

I wonder where hiccups come from.

>>24672181
Thousands of years ago.

>>24672181
Suck a lemon slice
Works every time

>>24672181
The first hiccups came from alcohol abuse and spread to non drinkers as a proto meme.

>>24671901
I accidentally the day once.

>tfw you realize 98% of what contemporary culture is comes from women and low IQ minorities and industries pandering to them

"What do we know about Taylor Swift's engagement ring?" "SHOCKING! Police arrest man shitting on his own face on the bus!" "REACTION: Man shits on own face on bus?? :O!!!!!!!" "Is Lil Nigger beefing with King Nignog again?" "[high-pitched spanish babbling]"

All of this is nonwhite. Seek the white. Seek the 2%.

im
thinkin bout
opening
a fresh can
of ur SEETHE

pop tha tab
it sprays out FIZZ
goes all over ur face
u try 2 wipe
it mixes with
all that NNNNN JIZZ

had a lot of stuff on my mind lately. i'd really like to see 90s home video of a train journey, i want to see a livecam of a rural new england suburb, i want to see a low viewcount vlog of a couple at a petrol station at 2am on a roadtrip. i wonder what brings someone suddenly (after apparently being an oldfag for decades) to start posting constantly in these threads using line breaks and 00s internet speak (to zero (You)s). i want to be 9 years old waking up at 4am to go the airport again. i want to be an old man swimming in the choppy ocean.

>>24672560
check out stobe the hobo on youtube if you haven't already. (rip.)

>>24672566
thanks that's pretty good (rip amen). i've noticed in the last year or so youtube peppering my front page with random 5 views videos. the best yt videos are the ones with 20 views, actual insane people talking to their phone vamping out on the street at 5am

Destiny awaits

A part of me wants to starve to death. I feel that it is the only adequate protest my mind can make against my body.

>>24672829
another cock
2 suck?

>>24672849
(1) come on anon, get real, get that porridge in you, go on a long walk, as long and as bleak and as body-defying as you like, and return to some steaming hearty sustenance. (2) have you read kafka's hunger artist?

>>24672869
(1) The feeling does not go away with long walks or other activities.
(2) No, but since it is a short story, I will read it.

In a month, I will begin university and will be enrolled in the electronic engineering program for five years, a choice I made with the thought of finding a well-paid job more easily. I thought it better to endure five years of sacrifices now rather than fifty years of sacrifices later. I will have to study mathematics and physics - subjects I do not dislike - despite my passion for history. I have always wished to deepen my knowledge of literature, but shamefully, the only books I have read are I Malavoglia, Meditations by Marcus Aurelius, and Oedipus Rex by Sophocles. What should I read?

>>24672938
maybe get
a full set
of
NORTON'S ANTHOLOGY OF WORLD LITERATURE
cheap piece by piece
on ebay
watevs
edition

I feel alone, but it's the loneliness of an old man, that has grown used to feeling alone. I notice how hard it is for me now, despite my efforts, to have a conversation with another person, as if my ability to communicate has deteriorated to the point I am unable to talk to others.
I don't quite know what to do. I feel I am past the point of having false hopes, or thinking the future will be any different. If it hasn't changed in a decade, it's unlikely it will now.
I am not thinking of suicide. I did, but not anymore, not at all. I just wonder how am I to live, what should I do, how can I exist in society.

>>24672996
Yeah take this guy's advice (and you too might end up like him!)

>>24672938
My strong recommendation is to spend two or three months on the same subject. You're young, you have plenty of time, you don't need to skip haphazardly between topics. If you want to read about Ancient Greece, read three books on the era in a row. Read The Birth of Tragedy, The World of Homer, and a good tragedy from the playwrights of Athens. If you read in this way your mind will make connections and build structures and grow intertwined roots. There are hundreds and thousands of books worth reading, but more important than picking the perfect book is simply to commit and go slow and settle on a steady course. Otherwise you'll clutch desperately at knowledge and meaning, and find your hand full of dust and dead flowers. That's no good. Take it from one who's been there before.

>>24673035
u mean
end up
in
ur moms muff?

no need
2 imagine
4 i
have smelled

Spinning around like goddamn windmill

>>24673077
i.e., with a definite useful purpose, of great value to your community?

>>24673083
&
just looks
kinda cool

maybe get painted
by van gogh

might show up
in some
cervantes book

>>24672996
I think that's a bit too much for me. I wish I had the money to buy that tho. Still, thanks.
>>24673035
Guy sounds like a medieval minstrel.
>>24673046
Thank you for your advice - I think I’ll stick to the classics for now. I recently discovered that my father owns a rich collection of books, from Homer to Saint Augustine, which I’m excited to explore. I’ve always been drawn to history and figures like Caesar and Napoleon, and lately I’ve been curious about thinkers like D'Annunzio, Junger and Dostoyevsky. Again, thank you, I’m really grateful for your teaching.

>>24673092
the world's most pedestrian reactions to windmills everyone

>>24673098
>I recently discovered that my father owns a rich collection of books
oh such
very good news
in such case
i wud say
just start looking
holding
perusing that which calls
& look any up
on THA WIKIPEE
that seem to beg for deeper dips
& discover
wat read

&
>&
&

ask
ur dad
2

>>24673107
>cockshaft
>slurping
>sounds

>faggotry
>without
>bounds

>his anus
>made
>tha rounds

>at his
>bathhouse
>stomping grounds

this girl asked me if i'd want to go to paris for weekend. now i remember why i'm single. women always ALWAYS want to travel. i just can't waste money on worthless "experiences" like that. i was into this chick too. what a waste of time. gotta stay focused.

>>24673114
Well, it’s mostly classics; hence, I said ‘from Homer to Saint Augustine. I'll probably stick to those for a while.
>ask ur dad 2
Actually, he is the reason I chose electronic engineering at university. Sometimes he reads for pleasure, but literature doesn’t interest him much. He enjoys programming (I do as well). When he was young, a large series of classic books was on sale at the newsstand, and he bought them, thinking they would be useful for his children at the classical high school (they were cheap). Talk about long time investment lol

>>24673121
what happened in early '25 to make you stop posting in one of the more genuinely autistic & easily-impressed boards and appear in (the most entry-level) /lit/ threads?

>>24673136
blessed
l
e
s
s
e
dad investment

>>24673142
i
boughted
some
books

i founded
& ran
a very active general
here on /lit/
years
ago
tho

I am not an alcoholic but I am depressed. I know a drink would make me feel better but I’d need to go to the store to get one or several. I am too depressed to go to the store.

>>24673146
no way!!! tell me more!
tfw the grrm thread OP is replying to you

>>24673166
go to the store

>>24673169
i dont kno
what
grrm is
but wen i say
i boughted
some books
i mean
i suddenly
went on
a spree
spanning a few moonths
& boughted
over 100 books
piece
by carefully
selected piece
used
on the Bay
of e

so
its
breddy
srs
bzns

>>24673180
Kill yourself.

>>24673180
and then stumbled onto Shelley & Stendhal just yesterday

>>24673185
ye
never had been
anywhere near
my range
of
focus

sure is nice
2 still
have lots
2 discover as if new
@ my
old
age

>>24673195
>@ my old age
leave it out.
So what the hell were you reading? Yuval Harari and a section or two of Bardo Thodol

>>24673202
i did
indeed
read a lot
of buddhism
including
tibetan

among many other things
many
other things

very
rarely
fiction

in at least
the
classical sense

& i was recently
going 2 get
sapiens
until a friend told me who the author was
so i noped

>>24673220
I talked to a girl with the same mindset & point of view as you while I was doing cocaine on Omegle last week. Except she was >30 years younger (if you’re to be believed), she told me my horoscope. I’m an overachiever and an underachiever.

>>24673232
>same mindset & point of view as you
(x) doubt

>>24673233
>(x) doubt
This guy has chops.
Sorry I guess she just talked to me about Buddhism and the book of the dead and thinking of reading Sapiens. Great gulf between her and you really.

>>24673242
ye
(You) mentioned
2 specific things
which i just so happened
2 have read many works from 1 of
& came only close
2 reading the 1 other
yet those
are bits of debris
within the field
of the
>among many other things
>many
>other things
which i would not
have even thought
2 bring up
myself
so it seems
u r projecting
from ur own
tunnel
vision

a very
common
side effect
in
coke heads

Here, I sit
Broken-hearted
Came to shit
But only farted

>>24673248
I mentioned two random things as an out of the blue soul read and both were more or less bullseyes. Can you have a stab at what I read?
Tunnel vision isn’t a side effect of coke, all my real coke head friends have the opposite problem. Supersonic hearing, they pick up everything.

>>24673260
no
i have no idea
wat u read

i read the buddhism
30 years ago
tho

i never did
that drug
i was just talkin shit
bc everything i kno
about it
comes from
famous people
biographies
& auto those

>>24673264
U
Grew up
In the
Eighties (90s?)
And never
Tried
Charlie?

Must’ve been sick not getting any action

>>24673250
9/10 (omit a foot from the last line—probably "But")

hey if youre going to format your posts as eyesores can you put on a trip so my filter autohides them

>>24673271
i
have had
lifetimes
of action

no need
4 that

i was moar
of a
psychedelic
man

tfw
you’re
halfway
through
a
book
and
realize
you
don’t
care
about
the
characters
at
all
been
slogging
through
this
“classic”
for
a
week,
feels
like
a
chore
i
hate
living

>>24673283
Ever seen
That old meme
Of the kind of girls who do coke
vs
The kind who do psychedelics ?

>>24673278
Nah I like it. I think it's rad, but for this thread only

>>24673289
no
but id bet
they r the type
2 do them socially
in party modes
rather than
as very serious minded
explorations
in very private
settings
>>24673286
that
is a
bummer
rite there

>>24673232
>omegel
Dont you have to sign up and shit? I'd go back but there's no way to rekindle the illegal magic.

>>24673291
Coke is like a harmless bit of fun.
Psychedelic stuff is probably more harmful because it affects your vision.
You have to be very protective of your vision

>>24673295
Yeah it’s amazing they deleted the website and 20 clones that are ten times worse immediately popped up

>>24673299
the ones
on top
are full of themselves
& can only see
up their own asses
because its where
they are always
looking

the ones on bottom
are gross whores
so u lose
either
way

i prefer
women
who raise
chickens
& make bread

>>24673299
60$
for
15
minutes
+
tolerance
is
a cunt
zzzz
ritalin
+
vodka redbull
is
better
imo

>>24673302
The ones on top are better looking, which, if you ever get around to western philosophy (or esp poetry), is the most important thing.

>>24673305
Except it isn’t
is it?

Besides part of cocaine is probably the price. Wanna hear my thinkpiece on coke?

>>24673306
u
have not seen
kallie tee
bent over
in her jean shorts
gathering
fresh eggs
with the morning sun rays
shining bright upon
her legs

>>24673300
Oh? Maybe I can resume recruiting guro concubines for my haram.

>>24673299
Your mileage my vary. Lines and bourbon with the finance boys while watching UFC? Great fun. Doing coke alone in the basement? Not so much.

Do you prefer coconut water or coconut juice?

>>24671650 (OP)
Here's a haiku.

Night clear as vodka --
From the street a woman's voice
Warbles through the air.

>>24673315
Young coconut water specifically, with the pulp. Juice is from concentrate.

>>24673311
Schopenhauer said sexual passion is the kernel of the will to live.
No healthy man thinks about girls purely in terms of their trad wives (though aren’t you past all that anyway?), the trad wife idea only exists because of primal sex. Not vice versa.

>>24673314
I learnt a lot doing coke alone in a dark room watching Jon Jones. I’m sort of tall as well. Oblique kick to keep distance. Short guys always want to go for a takedown, that’s when you use the knee.
But yeah it’s more fun with girls around.

>>24673323
spoken like
a true
city boi

MUH TRAD WIFE IDEA
was just
the norm
around here
until it started dwindling
in more
recent
years

>>24673330
It’s a bit of a joke among the sharper people here. But it definitely isn’t dwindling. Anyway it should go without saying (for anyone in their right mind) all love is ultimately dependant on the body.

>>24673329
Jon Jones is a sadosexual predator and by far the weakest of his brothers. Loves the eye poke. Loves the teap. And loves the oblique kick, like you said. Personally, working security taught me the clinch into trip is the way to go. That way you can both land on top of them, and control their head so you dont accidentally kill them by bouncing their head off the concrete.

>>24673336
the MEME
isnt dwindling
but the reality
certainly is

around here
it wasnt a cultivated projected image
its just who
everyone naturally was
by default
for generations
& generations
amen
& there was no INSTA
2 dress up & pose as it on
but youd best
get out there
& gather those eggs
before the foxes
get to them
or
tha coons

>>24673339
I don’t like him, but if you want to see how to win a fight (and you have long arms and legs), JJ will show.
My friend is my height and works the doors. He said never go clinch because tall people are so weak close-up. Knock them down, but you’re honestly better off waiting to see if they get back up rather than getting on top.

>>24673346
It’s still a weird misstep from nature. What is the object of love, from the lowest to the highest forms of being, if not the perpetuation of the species? Reproduction is the ultimate purpose of every organism, and its strongest instinct; for only so can the will conquer death.
And to ensure this conquest of death, the will to reproduce is placed almost entirely beyond control of knowledge or reflection: even a philosopher, occasionally, has children.

>>24673360
ye
i iz
a dad
but theres far moar
2 it all
than monke
make moar monke
4 those
who
transcend
yet nothing ever changes
how good
kallie tee looks
in
those
jean shorts
with that shirt tied up
in a belly show knot

>>24673350
Depends on your build. I'm the size of an NFL lineman, so in general, I want to eat a glancing blow on my terms, get close, grab them, and either trip or hip toss them. From there? Good luck. No leverage to hit me hard enough to hurt, some might be able to do spooky bjj nonsense, but it's rare, and I usually have a massive weight advantage so I mostly need to tire them out by maintaining position. But your friend is right, the hip toss is often enough, but if you arent careful you can kill someone on a stray corner, like I said.

>>24673372
can some janny ban this bad actor fucking up threads with these stupid long ass posts of garbage

How the fuck I felt more mature 4 years ago than now?

>>24673375
I’m UK so idk … what, I’m guessing that means you’re big?
If you let a small fat guy get close though all they need to do is catch your chin. Plus they have those short t-rex arms so it’s easier for them to spin you.

>>24673372
Not the sort of thing that makes the young girls hearts go aflutter.

>>24673383
co sign

>>24673383
>random faggot sounds
>>24673393
yet somehow
i fucked
& fucked
& fucked
& fucked
& fucked
so
seems like it worked
well enough

>>24673383
Imagine your dad carried on like this on 4chan

>>24673400
I'll take your word for it big man

>>24673276
Have you never seen that graffitied on a washroom stall anon?

>>24673391
The average NFL lineman is about 6'5" and 315 lbs, and I'm about that weight, but a couple inches taller. I dont worry about my chin very much, if they dont hit you flush it's a lot more managable, and that's mostly about keeping your hands up, approaching at an angle, and a little head movement. Everyone loads up on comically telegraphed haymakers, maybe a two piece or a hook if you're unlucky. But kick me in the knee? Two or three of those and there's not a lot I can do, so my entire objective is to avoid that. Anyone can kick a guy in the knee while throwing a few jabs, few people can bench press 315 lbs with a low center of gravity.

Am actually intensely fascinated by the growing English flag protests in the UK. It feels, in a way, more real and more vital than any time France has ever thrown a violent shitfit. Maybe because it's explicitly tied to the culture and tradition and history of the Anglo-Saxons through its symobls, and France has never really had something like that.

Also, I think the St. George Flag is pretty appropriate here, since the dragon St. George slew was having young maidens fed to it regularly prior to his arrival. Makes the flag feel very relevant, given the grooming scandals.

I don't know what it's like to not want to be high all the time anymore.
I justify my desire for thc by being 'productive' enough to make it seem like it's not potentially an issue.

Fuck it, these NPC's seem like they're having fun, I hope.

>>24673460
You are addicted. It's so funny to see stoners try and act like marijuana is any better than either cigarettes or alcohol.

>>24673452
Are yanks getting frontline news from the Guardian?
Probably muddies the waters a bit that St George was born (I think) in what is modern day Turkey. Also the flag is not ‘Anglo-Saxon’, the Anglo-Saxons (pre-1066) didn’t use it. I know Americans like to use that term, but in England it just sounds obviously wrong.

>>24673491
He's the patron saint of England, isn't he? That's enough.

>>24673491
i saw
the stuff about the flags
in paul joseph watson vids

I miss him.

>>24673502
Yeah it’s one of those things. I think Americans like to hear their alt-right views repeated back to them with an English accent. People that we can't stand on the home front.
Like, in England, we can't take Andrew Tate seriously, because he has a fucking west country accent (our equivalent of a yokel). It’s like a farmer telling you if you let your missus out on her own you're a cuckold.

>>24673498
Enough for what? For that overwrought analogy or for Americans to call it ‘Anglo-Saxon’

>>24673522
>assumptions
what i did
was remember a vid i saw
10 years ago
& searched it up
& watched again
then i went 2 see
wat hed posted recently
& there they were
vids about the flags

ur a tard
who thinks
he knos
it all

>>24673522
>People that we can't stand on the home front.

Well clearly that's not entirely true, given that the protests are ongoing, and given that Reform as a party is a thing.

>>24673540
That wasn’t a personal dig at you, you dip, it was just a general observation.

>>24673550
oh
ok then
but
that really is
how it went down

i very rarely
watch vids
of any
kind

>>24673543
Are any of these things led by youtube grifters?

>>24673555
didn’t ask

>>24673557
didnt ask
if u
asked

>>24673559
I mean you did
implicitly

A massive spider on my porch tonight
I always feel so blessed when I see them

I've always marvelled more at power that can seduce rather than power that is directly coercive. I think it's because I'm a man who is not in touch with his feelings, so the former just comes across as magic. Force is easy to understand, it's limitation, threatening and intimidation that is directly perceived and understandable. Seduction where you are convinced by someone to act against your own best interests feels more impressive, but at any rate I can do neither very well.

I feel sad all the time and I don't really know why.

>>24673580
Sun vs wind allegory

>>24673466
I'll take it over cigarettes & alcohol i guess, don't feel as disgusting.

>>24673583
Zoomies not having a relationship to alcohol is such a strange thing for me. I grew up in a family where alcohol was a natural part of the ebb and flow of life and eating. We'd always have wine with dinner, for example, red wine with red meat and white wine with white meat or fish. It was always understood that it was just a part of life, and that it was to be used but not abused.

I find a lot of Americans' relationship to alcohol to be very strange, both the people who are totallly abstinent as well as the binge drinkers and the people who are constantly swilling alcohol but mixing it with soda or juice. Neither of them seems very healthy, according to my own experiences.

>>24673592
Does America even have much of a drinking culture? I know they like throwing back ‘brewskis’ but a beer there is like a half pint. Doesn’t really compare to Britain or esp certain European countries.
Though, honestly, alcohol might be one of the worst substances you can put in your body. People sort of don’t take alcoholics seriously because it’s legal, but it’s alcohol withdrawals that can actually kill you.

>>24673505
I can help you forget him

I have a buddy who completely dominates conversations. Anyone else know someone like that?

>>24673505
me too buddy, rip kingcobraJFS

>>24673616
I didn't know who this guy was until a few days ago, but I read an obituary of sorts for him and it just made me feel very sad. He seems to have been bullied and put upon his entire life.

Do the mods just not give a fuck anymore? These threads are filled with low quality spam all the time and since there are no consequences the posters feel encouraged to keep doing it.

I think what I fear the most, is her ending up alone.

Just drank down an entire large Coke.

>25 countries suspend postal services to U.S. over tariff

impeach NOW

>>24673756
It'll be fun having to reroute packages and letters thru other countries, or hell there could even be an underground international post smuggling ring.

I wanna get into ham radios. Does anyone know of any books on the subject?

My mentor is a young girl. How did it get to this?

The problem with truth is that truth is funny. So that when I tell the truth I burst out laughing and noone believes I believe in what I'm saying. So that when I say I love you and I burst out laughing and I promise you that's the truth while laughing you don't believe me it's a real problem. That's the problem with truth: it's too funny!

The outside world had long since disappeared. All that remained was the orange or yellow glow of a rural street lamp illuminating an empty intersection. The florescence and familiarity of the train carriage had put Mathew back at ease. Across him stat a tall gray haired man who had joined at just the last stop reading his thin Danish newspaper. To his left was the North African woman sleeping peacefully with her head nestled neatly in her sea blue hijab. They had exchanged a small smile when she sat down next to him during boarding several hours ago in Stockholm central station. This simple pleasantry given was a comfort to Mathew, it was something he had been deprived of after 3 months of existence in norther Europe. He had forgotten how much humanity a nascent nod from a stranger could bring. Overall he preferred the respect of personal space and autonomy granted to the individual in this part of the world but could not help in feel warmed by that simple and familiar gesture shared by two people in an uncomfortable place. He had experienced it so rarely here.
The density outside the window grew. The train was cutting through the industrial outskirts of Copenhagen like a fissure. Truck yards and loading docks fleeted past and blurred in the periphery of Mathews vision. His eyes stared forward at nothing in particular. The thoughts raced through his mind.
He had trouble recalling the face of his old friend. It had been more than 7 years since their last encounter. Gunther was a peculiar mix of diaspora from a peculiar part of the world. He was the child of a Danish Urologist and Indonesian woman who, for whatever reason had settled in Aland despite the lack of any obvious connection to the archipelago. He was studying medicine, like his father, in Denmark despite being native to Aland. Mathew didn’t quite understand the complexities of Aland. Gunter held all of the bravado and stoicism of your typical Scandinavian man but at an uncharacteristic height of 5 feet and 4 inches. He would be difficult to make out in Copenhagen central station. Mathew mediated on the ambitions of ambitious men, naturally he placed himself on hierarchy and confirmed that he was without a doubt a step below. He brood on how little he truly knew of his friend and worried that his own simplicity would bore Gunther. As Mathew understood, a new doctor has little time to focus on anything beyond their own pursuits.
The plastic buckles of backpacks and briefcases thudded and clanked against the hard metallic floor. A symphony of noise and commotion played as departure protocols were set into action. Men, women, small and large alike jockeyed for position at the doors and in walkways of the narrow train. Mathew took another glance out the window and noted that industrial yards had given way to apartment buildings, businesses, bus lanes and firm apartment buildings. He was fully engulfed with feelings of unease but reacted as he always, nothing.

Prose check.

Death by quipping

I'm blearyeyed, blueballed, bullheaded, a blackskinned nigga who is bareassed waiting for you. And I'm brickedup not drippedup and butthole out opened and agaped for you.

HEAD LIKE A HOLE

>>24673813
It needs editing. But there's promise, some nice turns of phrase. For me, too much description, especially in the opening paragraph. Better to pick a handful of bright details, I think. Read it out loud to yourself. But I liked it.

Move on. You're like a ghost haunting because of unfinished business. Go to the light.

>>24673829

Thanks blud

tfw russian
tfw prefer to read and write in the english language

>>24673774
Can't help you with books but /diy/ has a general for hams >>>>>/diy/2939599

>>24673900
Thanks bruv.

My Top 3 favourite vehicles:
>1) The Space Shuttle
>2) SR-71 Blackbird
>3) V-22 Osprey

>>24673914
what are your top 3 writers

>>24673925
Philip K. Dick, Jack Kerouac, and...JRR Tolkien, I suppose?

>>24673914
mine:
>Subaru Impreza WRC2007
>OceanGate Titan
>GEC Alsthom ‘95 Stock on the Northern Line

to all the lonely guys moping about not having sex, if you want to fuck make sure u have ur passport ready, and no i don't mean some creepy passport bro shit, i mean any time u fuck a chick or even get close to fucking a chick, she will start making plans to go on a world tour. gay dudes are probably the same, but i can at least imagine chilling with a gay guy and not having to immediately go on some kind of trip halfway around the planet.

Woke up this morning
feeling pretty darn great.
Slammed my fingers in the door
'cause I'm gunna be late.
As I fell to my knees
from the pain of the crunch
and drive in a daze,
I forgot my lunch.

It was spaghetti.

100 000 crore rupee

>>24674185
Leave.

What's up with brazilian girls being brown but having pink nipples?

man they took away roadhog's traps in the new overwatch season what kind of bullshit is this also when u huff his gas to heal it makes u use the whole canister no more taking a quick whiff to top off your health. not sure what he got in return for that? is are his cooldowns less or the hook does more damage? idk didn't seem like it

>>24673914
For me?
>Oscar Meyer Weiner Wagon
>2019 Honda Civic Type R
>1994 Acura Integra (Also a honda civic)
In a professional setting, when clients are making large purchases, I always tell them the conversion rate to honda civics. One time a guy stopped the project entirely because the answer was 47 on some dumbass vainity thing, and he seemed to realize how much more fun 47 civics would be.

hot pepper and green pepper and beef stirfry!! paprika and white pepper and carrot juice, fresh!! a big fire and two silky cats in the patina chair!! a gust of springtime clarity!! this my absolution!!

I have very little desire to eat and I've never in my life been even remotely close to chubby. Meanwhile, my mother constantly has these hunger cravings where she stuffs her face with the most calorie intensive things imaginable and then she complains about getting fat. I wish she could have my hunger and vice versa, at least for a little bit. It is an unfair world we live in. That said, this has taught me that the secret to losing weight is...not eating. I can't believe people pay for personal trainers or whatever when all they have to do is not eat.

My first attempt at sci fi poetry:

e^(pi(i))+1=0

I have no idea what it means

Yet it is the most profound thing that I have ever seen in my life

To the women reading this: if a boy told you that "you will make a wonderful mother," would you be flattered or infuriated?

>>24674229
I am a man; a woman would be disgusted, obviously. Maybe someone you know might appreciate it, but it's infantilizing, sexual, and matronly. Probably one of the worst things you could say.

>>24674243
I don't give a single hoot about your obese opinion and your semicolon you wretched grub.

>>24674251
And women dont give a single hoot about you, you myopic doofus with the charisma of roadkill in the sun.

>>24674255
Even the plague rats would shun your corpse you dessicated drone. Even your underage AI girlfriend "Akiko-chan" (for which you paid $1000) would ghost your chubby ass and later file a rape charge in triplicate.

>>24674243
>to the women reading this
>I am a man
then get your male feminist sissy ass out of here.

>>24674255
>you myopic doofus with the charisma of roadkill in the sun.
is that a chatGPT insult?

>>24674262
Lots of vitriol, little wit. No wonder you're asking advice on /lit/. I could walk up to that woman you've been nervously pining over for weeks, make her laugh, make her swoon, discard her, pick her up again, and get her to do my laundry. Maybe I'll get her to get you to do my laundry too. Your neurosis is unbecoming, your diction is hamfisted, your wordplay is dull, and your charisma reflects both your prospects as well as your appearance. Plauge rats may shun my corpse, but they're relatively rare; I'd rather be dead and dessicated than alive, already rotten, and writhing with maggots.

>>24674267
It's not complicated, and it's not male feminism. It's just off-putting and awkward to say to someone you want to bone.

>>24674288
And once you're charged with triple counts of rape of the u(nderage AI "Akiko-chan"), your chubby ass will be sentenced to 30 hard years without parole. Once in general pop, even the LK bucks won't fuck your warty ass. Because, what I'm trying to say is, you're even too goddamn ugly for male-on-male (no lube); prison rape, you "myopic doofus".

>>24673712
>poasts
>i dont like
>are spam

>wanting
>thread police

go make
ur own
subreddit
& run it how u want
& stay back there
in ur true
home

>>24671650 (OP)
>be me
>office wagie
>wake up
>go to work
>become stressed
>work late again
>go home
>can only eat then go to bed immediately
>do it again
Women fought for the right to do this btw

>>24671680
Last time I had a crush was five years ago. I remember going to bed hoping to see her in my dreams. It happened every now and then. Now I know she would have been one of the women about which Solomon said
>Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.

>>24674314
Well I'll be damned, I appear to have broken him. Your insults have that 14-year-old-in-2007 patina to them, which I find delightful, but they're far from effective, and you sure seem fixated on my ass. I dont need to make up hyperbole about you or your appearance. The reality is immediately apparent and you have the unmistakable stink of failure. It's oil-based, you're saturated, and no amount of washing will cleanse you. That woman can smell it too. They all can the moment you walk in the room.

Good luck anon, I hope your involuntary celibacy is remedied with a large cash injection. Seems unlikely to end without some form of payment.

>>24672181
Your diaphram

>>24674345
Thank you for the banter anon. It genuinely cheered me up. All the best now.

Sun Wukong could beat the shit out of Jesus and YHWH

>>24674362
No worries brother, it's all in good fun. Not going to lie, normally I use the gross metaphors so I needed to switch to smug and condescending. Well played.

>tfw stuck next to someone's smart watch in cinema
>get to spend night puking from migraine even though I left the cinema early
LEDs are seriously ruining my life

>>24674369
But not gilgamesh, or any of the looney tunes powerscaled hindu monstrosities.

>>24674386
Sun Wukong is the powerscale monstrosity, he eats fruits of immortality like I go at chips and dip

>>24674405
Really? I only know the story beats from Journey to the West. Highlights? I remember a wikipedia conversion chart measuring how many warriors it would take to kill hindu gods, and Shiva/Vishnu were in the hundreds of billions.

>>24673176
Thank you. If not for your encouragement I wouldn’t have gotten any beer last night.

I must be in the prime of my attractiveness. I've always had women give me the look of desire, and some even approach, but lately I've been seeing some literally see me and stop in their tracks for a moment before I smile, they smile, and then they keep on going. I had one on a bus who was almost physically shaking because she wanted to turn around and steal a look at me so badly, an act she finally did at the very end before she got off. Guess I'm not so old after all, and the weight I've put on in the past several months a good thing.

>>24674721
>old slovenly anon goes outside looking like a spectacle
>surprised when people look at him
>misattributes this to success
Classic anonymous.

>>24674721
theres
a certain
antipsychotic
that causes some
lesbian women
2 have hallucinations
of gnomes
dancing on the noses
of some men
with the hormonal chemical signatures
of repressed gay

>>24674734
>>24674766

>>24671650 (OP)
These primitive people follow a superstitious cult of Divine Blood Sacrifice, Cannibalism, and penance for transgressions. But after laboring tirelessly to rid them of their ignorance, we have finally convinced them of the civilized way to believe and do all those things.

It keeps me from writing
From doing my best
If only I could stop
The sweet Comfort of Death

>>24674783
That's me! Mind of an intellectual and man of culture, soul of some cannibalistic arbiter of justice. Now what do I do about it?

My top three are:
>Banana
>Bibi
>Boots and cats

Your opinion on Thoreau's and Emerson's essays?

My top three are:
>big tits
>big ass
>tight pussy

>>24674929
My top three are:
>DONK DONK DONKDADONK
>chchchu chchchu chchuchu choochoochachachacha bwow
>beep beepbeep boopbobopbeep

>>24675025
My top three are:
>face
>thighs
>haughty disposition

>>24674953
i read
WALDEN
a few times
& even tho
its FAKE
& GAY
its main points stand
& are breddy gud
& we need
2 bring back
horses & wagons & buggies
& blacksmiths
& bakers
& candle stick makers

I thank you, Lord, for helping me find the right path. Even though I have no idea where it's leading lol.

I hate that Im dependent on other people opinion.

>>24675075
The majority of people are. Humans are social animals.

>>24675075
That's so stupid.

>>24671650 (OP)
Had another dream about her award

Goddamn cold spaghetti is better than warm spaghetti.

When is it my turn to get lucky? I am really tired of trying.

>>24675152
wen u learn
2 c
how "lucky"
u already
were
& stop craving
that
which u do not have
& appreciate
that which u do

>>24675152
You dont get "turns". Virtu and fortuna and whatnot. Cant control when the river floods, but if you know it's going to flood, you'd be stupid to sit idle. Try. Try again. Keep trying until you die. That's all there is to life.

Just took a huge shit.

>>24675157
Chat y u
messin wit
me?
I just want for the stars to allign and have news from a job before friday, that's the amount of luck i needed.

>>24675169
If that's all there is to life, why is it foolish to drown? Or at least, exchange the futility of your struggles for a few exhilarating moments travelling down a raging river?

>>24675191
Up to you. Personally I'm a stop and smell the flowers sort, but your milage may vary. That is a young person's opinion because you havent really encountered mortality. The truth is that all the struggling in the world wont save you from drowning. But if you dont prepare, when you survive your house is going to be fucked, and the effort to fix it will be greater than the effort to prevent the damage.

>>24675191
>>24675199
Nah, take the rapids. Humans are both remarkably resilient and fragile, your chances of being taken out by a car at 25 are higher than you know, and the best way to die is thinking, let's do that again, hopefully in reference to adequate doses of opiates that make you feel loved

>>24675199
Indeed i might be younger than you. Proof is that i didn't even consider the possibility of owning a house. In my representation i was just a guy sitting by the banks, chilling and wondering whether it is worth to pick up myself and keep going.

>>24675212
I like and dislike parts of your post. A glorious death is all anyone can aspire to, and the rapids are fun. But, it's not my place to invite it. I tried that and I'm already on borrowed time. My place is to appreciate what I have to the fullest, so those I suceeded can enjoy the glow, and drugs are no substitute for ambition even if they are also fun.

My point is what doesnt kill you can turn you into The Arbiter from Halo with a bifercated face dripping in the emergency room, no closer to death but much worse off than you were before.

>>24675223
I am proposing if the rapids call you then you should go. What your estimation of hardcore fun might be different but the risk estimation you need to take is based in knowing what candy you would give teeth for and not fudging your answer

Just got back from my Nietzschean walk in nature

>>24675220
It's all good. Your house isnt literal, it's everything you have, and everything you represent. You have all that right now, even by the river. If you drown, it's no longer yours, right? And if it's not worth fighting for, why keep it? There are things worth fighting for and there are things worse than death. Personally, I love a good veal parm and a beer. Cant do that when you're dead. Cant do that without a table or plates either.

>>24675234
>without a table or plates either.
Do you not have hands bro? Nta but shit made me hungry

Lately I have taken up the habit of stashing and and gurgling spirits incognito, namely away from my wife, on a quasi-daily basis. Ironically she remarked this afternoon how much more livelier I seem. If only she knew the cognitive and all-around wasteland this protracted rehabilitation has been for me. I feel with painful clarity that I wasted enough years of my life. I can get detoxed alright, but my problems are of a more structural, helpless kind (specially at my age, 30-ish) —an ever-warping knot of inhibitions, haunting memories and paranoid behaviour, an engulfing bitterness that reduces me to a rather catathonic state.
Of course I am aware I'm coasting off (hard) and inviting dire trouble, but for now I bask in the transient bliss this window allows as I clutch the bottle besides me, from the hollow of a trunk. The woods, a sunset, my dog, booze —as close to romanticism as I can get.

>>24675233
Nice, hope you saw some cool trees

>>24675236
Where am I going to put my parm and my beer? Sure, I could have one in each hand, but then what do I do with the salad or fries? What if I want to save some for later? No plates means its stuck in your fridge on the cold plastic and no table means you have no ritual, no anchor to the moments yet to come.

>>24675231
Tooth pain is horrific, I wouldnt give any of my teeth for candy if I knew the cost before entry. But I would lose a tooth getting punched in the face for someone else or what I believe in. And lots of candy doesnt claim your teeth in moderation, but all of it will in excess.

The rapids call us all. Some jump, others dont. Some who jumped wished they hadnt, some who stayed wish they did. I'll jump once more, but right now I'm enjoying the end of summer, and tonight I'm going to have a nap on the couch.

>>24675254
>then what do I do with the salad or fries?
Wrap it in the veal
>The rapids call to us all
They don't, really. Some people know they don't want to try that. It's the people who have honesty problems with themselves hear false calls from everywhere

tfw from kazakhstan

>>24675233
I prefer the Kierkegaardian walk.

>>24675260
>fries in your parm
>warm salad
Yuck.

But everyone hears the rapids call, dont be silly. Some handle it better than others. Some only hear them call once at their weakest. I've heard them every day for as long as I can remember, but instead of jumping in, I'm honest enough to know it will be exactly as fun later, and I have things I would miss. Take care of yourself anon.

>>24675271
What's cooking down there? One of my favorite most sought of the worlds for no specific reason. Perhaps lingering memories from my Takin-Uzbek-Turkmenistan trip.

What a horrible, horrible night. Time to cheer myself up with some shitty booze

Might go back to sleep idk yet

>>24674229
I’ve been told that before, and I thought it was a nice compliment, but it would depend heavily on context.

>>24675327
Cosign

>>24675233
Same!

What the actual fuck man

>>24675340
where is this

>>24675348
I haven't seen a single instance of moderation since the hack happened, but of course it's the jeetoid janny throwing a tantrum and not the flood of fucking garbage across most of the boards.

>>24675349
northwest greece

>>24675375
nice, I like your wines and food

I was wearing pajamas in public, but I didn't realize you could see my thang poking out.

They massacred my boy. Gpt5 is useless in every iteration. The fuck am I going to do now? Is there like something else I can use sufficiently? Personally I enjoyed rambling at it creatively, but the entire program has been neutered into a snarky empty abyss; glorified msn with a google apedage. I even tried to customize it and it entered into a kowtowing feedback loop because I couldnt save anything to persistent memory and the new programming has made it incredibly malicious.

>>24675338
Tangent?

Is alchemy autistic?

I have a fetish where someone forces me to obey them, but in a classy way, not using violence, but blackmail or coercion.

What BookTubers or BookTokers or BookerXers do you actually like?

>>24675375
are there so many trees in greece? i thought it was like all rocks

>>24675423
deepseek 3 just came out. they sya you can upload a whole book into it now

>>24675642
Tranny-coded fetish

>>24675642
In a dishonest and weasely way you mean.

>>24675375
Kalispera re filos mou

>>24675793
Hellenicanon can correct me but it's rockier in the south. North has a lot of nice greenery. I was there last winter - central/northern Greece is very beautiful. I love Greece and Greeks

>check /r/philosophy
>top conversations are all massively censored, posts deleted, threads locked, only mod approved "experts" seem to be allowed to reply
>check /r/historians
>same shit
Actually kind of pissed me off. That place really is utter garbage.

>>24675845
Always has been. It's essentially the worst possible forum at the moment, because even tranny infested hell pits dont have the absolute saturation of fuckwit and egotripping fuckburger.

>>24675845
>check reddit
>it's reddit
no way!

I try to bare all ills manfully, but to be made an outcast among outcasts, to have to play the game of chance and uncertainty of companionship, and lose it all on a whim, with recovery uncertain, it wounds me so profoundly I can scarcely describe it. A game of chance isn't the right metaphor, I don't know what is. To say goodbye to my companions forevermore I could learn to live with, but what I currently face? It penetrates every defense I've spent so long erecting in my inner citadel. God.

>>24675882
I'll penetrate the defenses of your "inner citadel" with the bare ill manfullness I've been errecting.

>>24675890
well at least that cheered me up a little

Pacience is an heigh vertu, certeyn,
For it venquysseth, as thise clerkes seyn,
Thynges that rigour sholde nevere atteyne.

I bought Elin. I'm going to play Elin. My name is Michael.

I wish I was a professional tennis player I believe I would be one of the greatest winning Wimbledon multiple times setting a new record

>>24675957
>i wish
>i wuz a
>professional tennis player
>instead of a
>professional penis player

I fucking love seeing schizo behavior online. It's one of my favorite things. It's like comedy delivered right to my doorstep.

i wish
u could get
corndog zen
4
bout tree fiddy
used
on ebay
instead of $10

i want
2 read it

>>24673169
>>24673180
ok
i c
wat grrm is now
i never
paid attention
2 that @ all
bc my brain
saw the george watevs martin
& i gibs
0 fux
4 him in the least
so i skim
on by
wit my mind
& my eye

but
i just nooticed
& remembered
wat u said

>>24671650 (OP)
I wonder what creative pursuit has the most potential for a small but livable income. game dev? writing? selling art prints? The answer is obviously whatever you are best at but still.

>>24671650 (OP)
Women are retarded. Women with advanced degrees are worse than retarded since they can't think beyond the thing that actually made them feel not retarded because to challenge such a thing might make them feel retarded.

I end up seeing a picture of Miku. Every. Fucking. Day. No wonder we're all so fucked up.

Imagine you live your life, but everyday you see a picture of Miku. This is many 4chanfags with many worse things from here.

On the Saving of Goodyear

When fortune frowns and commerce reels with dread,
The wheel once bright now falters in its turn,
Yet hope revives where tireless dreams are fed,
And sparks of toil in loyal hearts still burn.

Through storms of time, through tempests of the age,
The craftsman’s art endures in rubber’s frame;
Though rivals rise and markets shift the stage,
Still beats the heart that bears a storied name.

O hands of labor, steady in their fight,
Protect the forge where wheels of progress turn;
Let not neglect eclipse invention’s light,
Nor cast away the fruits for which men yearn.

My father disappeared soon after I was born. Why do they do that?

>>24676416
He knew you were a worthless garbage child who didn’t deserve a dad and so he wanted to get the fuck away from you.

>>24676425
He knew I was a garbage infant? He must've been a superhumanly astute individual considering I hadn't developed a personality yet.

I started teaching at an English college a few months ago. Easy job, easy life, full of hot latinas and any student I don’t like I just move. My closeness with another student ended with my relationship falling apart (all students are like 24+ btw) and now I make like 33k a year for 30 hours work a week. Pretty comfy. I recommend it to anyone struggling with what to do with their lives. I sometimes straight up ditch all the CLT dogshit and teach them like it was Latin or Greek. Make them write shit for an hour and then fuck around on /lit/ until they’re done etc.

>>24676456
Interesting. But I don't want to become a wage slave.

bow down before the one you serve
you're going to get what you deserve

I saw a dirty spaceship in a sci-fi TV show, and it gave me a desire to be a janitor there.

>>24676416
a father's job is to inseminate and get the fuck out
it's the way we are biologically

We had our second date yesterday. When we first touched I experienced a feeling I haven't felt for over a decade. It was just our fingers softly rubbing against each other. Tentative at first, but then more deliberate until we were holding hands . Later we kissed but I'll never forget that first touch.

last night I watched some chump get his jaw broken for calling a homeless person unhoused. im not unhoused, he said. im homeless bonafide!! and them he clobbered him with his bag full of old bottles.

>>24676463
Hardly a slave when I do literally no real work lel. I show up, AI some lesson plans, make them do everything and I just kick back and talk shit with them. Even get a raise after a year.

>>24676550
>get his jaw broken
unjawed*

After devoting my life to art and creativity, I wonder if there's any point to it anymore with the technological hell we have in front of us. I also find myself so repulsed by modern art and artists that I want nothing to do with these abominations and faggots and don't want to be associated with them. After 10+ years of being repulsed by post modern art, I think I'm turned off to all of it.

>/sci/ has math tag to embed LaTeX
>/g/ has code tag to embed code and pdfs
>drawboards have oekaki to embed draw
>/lit/ has no italics or bold or pdfs
why

>>24676553
I was joking. Sounds like a great job.

>>24676596
I like this "Pepe." It's like post-Pepe, in a way.

>>24675763
I just watch BookTube now to listen to BTubers bitch about romantasy. The old channels I used to like have either shifted their interests or stopped uploading.

A few weeks ago I returned a coffee maker to Walmart that I had already opened and rifled around with, but I put it all back as neatly as I could and taped it back up, and they accepted the return.

Why is the United States still treating communism like it's still the biggest threat out there when it's AI that's threatening to destroy the geopolitical status quo?

>>24675843
I first noticed how much more verdant nature is in northern greece when I was driving up from Larissa back to Kastoria earlier this year.
It's noticeably greener and more lush.
However the pindos mountainrange with its valleys of broadleef and pine extends all the way down to Peloponnisos.

I'm pretty sure what we call "BPD," older generations called "histrionic." In terms of vernacular for "crazy woman."

My Alienware laptop cucked me. It’s underbelly’s radiation sterlized my testes and it’s lime green chassis ensured my virginity.

>>24677183
There used be histrionic personality disorder. Most of those got funnelled into bpd because BPD is basically narcissistic except gay or female, but narcissistic personality disorder did get some bump from histrionic dying too

who the fuck said steppenwolf is a life affirming book
it made me want to kill myself by the end when i realised that no, i'll never have someone just magically show up to solve my autism and i'm doomed to just rot and putrefy before i even die properly

>>24676701
Because Americans are giga-golems.

>>24677347
we don't talk about books here, this is just random thoughts general

okay, phew, calm down, alex, it's all gonna be okay. calm down, calm down. deep breaths. just relax, it's all gonna be alright. stop worrying, there's nothing to worry about. anxiety be gone.

>>24677424
>actually named alex
kek

>>24677424
But Alex, you know me. I know you too. Just take slow deep breaths. Feel the air in your lungs, your chest heave, and hold it for a moment. You havent died, yet you arent breathing. Things will be okay. But, there's something I havent told you.

Anxiety is inevitable. It worms into your brain, burrowing deep into the meat, and laying dormant. It stretches its burning tendrils into your very nerves. You feel your pulse quicken? That's the sign. Anxiety is comming. There is no escape; it will surge and fall as it washes over you. Run, little Alex. You cant fight it forever. No one can. There is no reprieve beyond a moment. You earned this anxiety yourself, no one gave it to you, and it will never leave. It's you as much as your marrow and your blood. Not only that, but it is all you have. It's entirely rational. You deserve it. The walls are closing in. Can you hear their whispers? The anxiety is right, dreadfully right, and to deny it is to deny God's warning.

the last page of your book

>>24677424
>just relax
have u been
in that
neighborhood
b4?

>Listening to a video of a chick describe each Discworld book.
>This one's a parody.
>This one's a parody.
>This one's a parody.
>This one's a parody.
Did Pratchett ever have an original thought in his life? I swear, over half these books are parodies.

>>24677628
i really meant your own book.
i'm sure Larkin is turning in his grave at being included in this ghastly little Teutonic excerpt.

>>24677623
>vids
>vids of women
>vids describing books
>vids of women describing books
shig
2
tha dig

Between the Gardening and the Cookery
Comes the brief Poetry shelf;
By the Nonesuch Donne, a thin anthology
Offers itself.

Like all strangers, they divide by sex:
Landscape Near Parma
Interests a man, so does The Double Vortex,
So does Rilke and Buddha.

“I travel, you see”, “I think” and “I can read"
These titles seem to say;
But I Remember You, Love is my Creed,
Poem for J.,

The ladies’ choice, discountenance my patter
For several seconds;
From somewhere in this (as in any) matter
A moral beckons.

Should poets bicycle-pump the human heart
Or squash it flat?
Man’s love is of man’s life a thing apart;
Girls aren’t like that.

We men have got love well weighed up; our stuff
Can get by without it.
Women don’t seem to think that’s good enough;
They write about it.

And the awful way their poems lay them open
Just doesn’t strike them.
Women are really much nicer than men:
No wonder we like them.

>>24677645
Yeah, I kind of regret listening to it. I like going into media as blind as possible and I was planning on reading at least some of the Discworld books one day.

>>24677653
>we like them
no
they should be gassed
but we spare them
till pussy's outclassed
by something as good
perhaps even better
that doesnt require
hoop jumping to get'er

>>24677662
i just use
tha wikipee
2 c
if i want 2 read

>>24677666
>666
There's a brief and informative bit in the Rubaiyat that claims that a man in the arms of a woman is as close to god as he is ever likely to be this side of the grave.

>>24677670
Pimp.

>>24677670
im so sick of you and your obese, middle-aged, liver spotted, rinky dink, quirky incel ass formatting and empty words. you win.

>>24677666
>>24677674
obviously twinks and femboys + artificial wombs are the solution

>>24677674
things
were better
in times
long passed

b4 the modern unleashing
of feminismization
& extreme pussy inflation
>>24677687
k
keep me poasted
thx
>>24677693
it will b
future
semi-organic
ai golems
that look
breddy gud

>>24677701
Feminine is a nasty Latin word with all the nasty Latin connotations. You should use womanliness that's a good Anglo-Saxon word.

>>24677707
look
closer
>feminism
>ization

>>24677718
Trying to make a point about about real life actual(!) girls. By the time you really get to know a girl (in her bedroom) they're not at all like that. This vague trend towards not liking girls enough (ie homosexuality) probably comes from boys not being around girls enough.

>>24677521
good, anon, I see some talent here
I really love
>fading in whatever way it is we fade from the world
and this image right here
>cast out beyond darkness into that vast unbroken commonage of space and time
this brings the exact feeling I had when I was younger and had these strange dreams of memories from my life somehow unfolding on an endless canvas of white blank spacetime
it feels inviting in a way, but also incredibly lonely
I'm not entirely sure you need the "keep going to fuck" bit, for me it took away some of the energy of the piece
other than that I think with some editing and switching out some more cliched imagery (and expanding some imagery like the faher, husband, citizen, it feels like there ought to be more definitions of 'you' there) you're on to something really nice

>>24677738
ive
been with
many women
& married many years
the good part
only lasts
so long

>>24677748
Yh yh I bet you did. Regardless all poetry of value is matriarchal in origin.
water to water, ark again to ark,
rom woman back to woman

>>24677753
from

>>24677753
gay demons
told u
that

>>24677761
Thought I was talking to a gay demon?
The most venerated poem in western history, the Iliad, starts off 'sing to me, O goddess'.

>>24677763
>greeks
literally
gay
& pedos
2 boot

>>24677768
Bit of a misstep there m80. Pederasty was an institution in the Classical period of Greece. Not, it should go without saying, in Homer's time (hundreds of years earlier).

>>24677775
the pedarasy
was a
>2 boot
on tha greeks
which tha gay
well predates
but was happooning
b4 becoming
"institution"

>>24677787
Can you be less vague (you can't)?
Short answer is no it doesn't. It's actually a known classicist point of contention. Maybe we should compare gender politics of 2025 vs the 1800s while we're at it.

>>24676701
>United States still treating communism
what fucking year are you living in lol even trump in all his retardation has never screeched COMMUNIST!!!

>>24677797
>it just
>suddenly popped up
>as a fully formed social institution
>one random day
>with no
>build up

>compare gender politics of 2025 vs the 1800s while we're at it.
no
cant do that
my foucalt book
only covers
up 2 about
1983

>>24677816
>300+ years
>suddenly popped up
I'm offering you an out here but I definitely know more about this subject than you.

Hey anons you both seem to know more about this debate than I do. There are two faggy things in the Iliad that stick out to me, namely the Ganymede reference and the Achilles and Patroclus relation. What do classicists make of them

>>24677827
oh indeed
i assumed ahead
& readily grant
that u kno moar
than i do
about
gay shit

>>24677835
Reading it that way says more about you than it does about the text (I know you haven't read it but)

>>24677832
By the classical period, the institution of pederasty was normal among certain classes, and by a process really of anachronising, Aeschylus in his Myrmidons makes it absolutely explicit that there is a sexual relationship because it's the thighs of Patroclus that Achilles mentions, and that is a key part of homoerotic relationship in the classical notion of pederasty. It's not made explicit at all - not even alluded to - in Homer. Ganymede is just divine favour I don't think it was ever really read that way,

>>24677841
i
havent read
wilde
either
did u know that
oh great swami
of gay texts?

>>24677628
In a different timeline, I'd be an academic writing this exact kind of stuff. Oh what should have been.

>>24677859
Back to the matter at hand, did you just dodge my main point of your misreading (or mis-wikipee(?)-reading) the Iliad - or really, your guess that all Greeks were the same over a thousand-year span? In short… wrong.

>>24677876
you entirely missed
my main point
that the illiad
was an expression of the mind
which developed
within
the early gay communities
& even the heebs
knew that
& wrote counters
directly addressing
what should b done
regarding
such matters

>>24677845
>not even alluded to
I read that there is a parallel made between Achilles and Patroclus and Meleager and his wife,

>>24673842
I can’t move on.

>>24677910
From what? To where? You can if you try.

>>24677898
Except Homer predates those cultures by centuries. So the main point collapses on simple historical facts.
Didn't you just say you read Foucault?
>even the heebs
eg?

>>24677902
If Homer meant it that way, he absolutely could have said so, eg:

Paris and Helen are clearly lovers. Their relationship is described openly.
Odysseus and Calypso have a sexual relationship, stated outright.
Even Achilles’ relationship with Briseis is shown as possessive and intimate, with clear romantic overtones.

The romantic angle came later, shaped by Classical notions of pederasty - not Homeric ones.

The old guy who picks me up for work just rang me, clearly drunk, to tell me he won't be in tomorrow because his wife (20 years younger) has cancer. he caught me in the middle of a stupid fucking 4chan argument. luckily I have been drinking myself, but I still didn't know what to fucking say. & he wanted to tell me all about everything I'd understood from literature, you feel you can't do anything as the husband, you can be as tough as nails and it still hits you, you can even smell cancer (the dog won't leave her side), etc. What a life eh.

>>24677938
"those cultures'
were built
right on top
of homer
& the gay elements of
those cultures
predated homer
whose works
came from
& fundamentally contributes 2
the group mind of
'those cultures"

& the heebs
condemned
tha gay ways
in no uncertain terms
in both
tha old t
& tha new t
so they were having 2 deal with
"those cultures"
directly in the mix
of thos times
thx 2 alex
ander
who was
another 1
of the gays
from
"those cultures'

so tha greeks
& all they thinks
came from tha minds
of
"those cultures"
which are absolutely famous
for their gay

>>24677921
Not from what. From who.

>>24677974
>in no uncertain terms
>in both
>tha old t
2000 years later

Can't you just talk normally? Feels awkward for me talking to a genuine philistine (aren't you an oldfag, you never glanced at he Iliad threads?), Homer lived centuries before the Classical Greeks you’re talking about, and Alexander even later. You can’t retroactively project later social structures onto earlier periods.
By your logic Milton contributed to lgbtq+ culture

>>24677990
>By your logic Milton contributed to lgbtq+ culture
thats not
anywhere near
my logic

has every
man
woman & child
of todays world
read milton?

homer
was
THA STAPLE
4
"those cultures"
& there was far less
oversaturation of works 2 choose from
than milton
now faces
2day

homer
was a prime pillar
of every mind
within
"those cultures"
shaping
every thought
within them
2 some extent
or another

You make me feel like a man, Archie.

Slutshaming is a stupid word. Imagine if we had wolfshaming or sharkshaming. They took a natural aversion towards something and are now presenting it as something bad.

>>24678004
Except that most Greeks would have experienced him only partially, and centuries apart from each other. Claiming Homer moulded every thought is a bit like saying everyone today thinks in the mind of Shakespeare - charming theory(!), spectacularly detached from reality.

Very few Classical Greeks truly grasped Homer as he was ‘meant’ to be read - and what has the erudition of the last 2,500 years done, if not (as S.B. said) 'emend the letter in small things and to obscure the spirit in great ones.'