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>Why won't anyone answer my question?
Be more specific, and try to provide clear images if you can.

>Why are my pictures sideways?
4chan strips EXIF data when images are uploaded, including the orientation tag if it's from your phone. To fix it save out your images separately, or use an app that will rotate and save the images for you.
One easy to use app that works well on Android:
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-=THE GUIDES=-
>Gelgoog Guy's gunpla guide:
gunpla.buyfags.moe
>Funaka's gunpla guides:
Building Gunpla: files.catbox.moe/fj5azc.pdf
Scratchbuilding: files.catbox.moe/2d9ppa.pdf
>Falldog's gunpla guide:
otakurevolution.com/content/laymans-gunpla-guide
>A guide to other types of plamo:
mediafire.com/file/1vf1aw7v91pz5pa
>Saintism's gunpla photography guide:
saint-ism.com/category/gunpla/photography

-=OTHER RESOURCES=-
>Gundam lineart (There's a lot!):
pastebin.com/22jyPB6q
>Dalong's gunpla reviews and documentation:
dalong.net
>Schizophonic's gunpla/plamo reviews:
schizophonic9-2.com
>KenBill Blog's gunpla/plamo reviews:
blog.kenbill.com
>Past Groupbuilds:
flickr.com/photos/197891373@N06
>Monthly Restock List:
old.reddit.com/r/gunpla/1lob2na

Prior thread: >>23373982

-=ARTILLERY GROUPBUILD=-

Build a mecha or vehicle that uses long-range heavy-weapons such as Cannons, Missiles/Rockets, Railguns, or any other type of siege weaponry. Some clarifying rules
>The weapon can either be placed anywhere on the build (Shoulder-mounted, under-slung, etc), or in a separate side-build (Such as an artillery system utilized by a larger mech).
>Side-builds can include things like howitzers, self-propelled artillery, missile platforms, and the like.
>Alternatively, the mech can act as a spotter, loader, or some other role to support Artillery fire.
>Despite technically being a long-range weapon, Sniper Rifles are a no-go.

Send your entries to gunplaplamo@gmail.com with at least 5 photos of your finished build along with any WIP photos and a description of your entry.
START: 4/13/25
END: 7/31/25

Show me your WIPs!

why isn't my USAGS order shipping yet? It has been weeks

>>23378243
Email them to ask.

>>23378243
Because it’s usags

>>23378234
lightcannon, gyan, and another red gundam are at the buyee warehouse, just waiting on a separate red gundam torso that i bought for parts.

>>23378243
thank you for trusting us, let me get your order

>>23378243
Was it a pre-order? From what I've heard they really suck at fulfilling pre-orders in a timely manner

>>23378243
Zak is putting in a little extra shipping and handling.

My RG Shining Gundam order got delayed from the 20th of last month, to the 7th of this month, then on the 7th it got delayed to the 25th of this month, when is this thing going to actually arrive?

>>23378282
Did you order from usags? If so it will probably be a few more months.

>>23378284
I put in a order with ebgames (formerly gamestop)

I heard Zach is personally shipping every shipment that comes in this month back out to Japan so they send it back after the tariffs hit just because you didn't buy enough gunpla from him

I was almost tempted to get the kagutsuchi o and carrier msg from my local
I really should've gotten the latter

>>23378243
Everytime you complain Zak adds another dent to the box.

>>23378295
how many complaints until he autographs one of the dents

>>23378299
the bootprint is the autograph

Are we buying the new solomon Kyshatriya or nah /gpg/?

>>23378299
I complained twice and he autographed my left eye

>>23378301
is this even 1/100? no wonder why bandai hasn't bothered to make one yet

>>23378301
Bro is looking swole

>>23378301
does it come with the Chinese man

>>23378314
a dollar fifty extra on aliexpress

>>23378291
You should if you are a Frame Arms fan. Koto don't print them much nowadays.

>>23378316
Plus tariff

>>23378317
yeah I have to scale back cause I have a backlog and my income is a bit uncertain due to slow business

>>23378314
Why would you need a Chinese man? Indian is cheaper than him

Has anyone here built the Figurise Metalgreymon? Is it worth the price? I do wish it was more in line with the original artwork but it looks close enough and I think something with skin would be a good break from painting robots.

>>23378301
Yes, it has a nicely detailed inner frame, which all mobile suits do.

>>23377380
I mean, I heard only good things about the MG, so maybe that's one thing it has over it.
>>23377739
Oh you know what, the hands have little tabs so the beam saber and rifle can plug in securely, and that's getting in the way of the top handle for them beam rifle. Did you cut that part off? The one in the hand, I mean.

>>23378333
NTA but my HG turn A can hold the rifle like that as well without any mods. You just need to jam it in

>>23378333
No I didn't change anything with the hand, just gave it a little wiggle and it went right in. The carry handle sits between the fingers and the little tab you mentioned.
I guess there is a chance that different re-prints have different thicknesses for the carry handle and that's why yours won't fit? Not sure why they would change that though.

>>23378301
I’m trying to make sense of the background but it’s like an ai generated image. At first I thought this was in the lobby of some nice building but now I have no clue what the hell is going on. The roof makes no sense. What are all those shapes? I can’t tell Whats going on with the windows. Why are there all those bars in them? do they even have glass? Is that a 50 foot table? Where does that end? What the fuck is all that shit on the right?

>>23378301
overdetailed

>>23378351
That's just an average rooftop in Asia.

>>23378351
First time hearing about chinks?

>>23378344
>>23378349
The handle fits in perfectly between the inner hand's fingers and tab, but it starts to get unhappy if I fit the outer hand, and neither part of the hand can fully secure together
What the fucking fuck is going on? Ooooooh I'm getting so mad...

>>23378351
no wonder some of you guys struggle with a regular brush and water

>>23378228
How did he do this?

i'm liking these dspiae markers so much that i think i will try painting a kit just using these, just for variety

I am doing a gundam aerial and painting it in normal gundam colors. You cannot stop me.

>>23378375
i did that before, it works, but kinda meh
mostly the color choices

>>23378351
The Chinese obsession with over greebling has spread to their interior design.

>>23378375
I almost tried once but was worried it'd use it up too fast

>>23378374
I believe he pasted the armor parts with thin layer of putty and then comb it.

>>23378301
I swear this is just the exact same mold as an older resin kit scaled down.

>>23378410
>mom said it's my turn

>>23378414
You mean this?

>>23378417
The normal gundam colors just do not feel meaningfully different. My shitpost has no fangs. I should have painted it Chars colors.

>>23378420
>>23378414
It’s not. Solomon doesn’t rip off resin they’re original design

Why cant someone just bootleg the HG Kshatriya and scale it up to 1/100

>>23378434
Kshatriya is so big that at 1/100 it would look like shit with no greeble. Just huge spaces of one color with no separation. The greeble gives it a sense of scale so it’s not just a big toy.

>>23378433
hm
some good among the turds in there
i shall refrain from tackling

>>23378454
Zak said this about my last order when he saw there was some girlpla in it.

>>23378448
no, it'd look good.

>>23378481
Then put some effort into it. Get one and remove the greebles

>>23378448
>Just huge spaces of one color with no separation.
That's why you're supposed to shade and highlight it.

>>23378493
not personally interested in it enough.

>>23378420
No i distinctly remember an different resin kit that had the inner grey sections of the binders separate like the solomon kit.

>>23378448
>Just huge spaces of one color with no separation.
This is a modeling thread

>>23378433
Is he ever gonna finish these? Just assembling all of them would take years.
Having more than 10 kits in your backlog just seems like a result of fomo, especially if you want to take your time with them and do full paintjobs.

>>23378540
>>23378448
I am going to mask and paint that whole surface one color and do very intricate and realistic shading on that flat surface.

>>23378544
Lol no. Each of these cost cost you around 1 to 2 days to finish assembly. It will take probably a few months at worst.

>>23378234
>>23378410
Another fully painted build done in a day. This is a very good kit. I may get a calibarn too.

>>23378570
>RGB keyboard
>G witch shit
Nice clean build but GAY!

>>23378572
It's a laptop keyboard. The color coding on it is to help my type in poor lighting.

>>23378574
Also I got the kit for 15 dollars and Suletta a cute.

>>23378578
damn meddling racoons in my gundams

>>23378544
i don't have any gunpla kits in my boxed backlog because i know i can get them at any time. most of it is muv-luv kits since they will probably never get reissued again since anchor/age will likely get canned or sold again

>>23378570
Very clean, very nice, but why didn't you paint the edges of the shoulder bits blue?

>>23378570
>done
No you aren't, there's no panel lining.

>>23378614
Paint is about an hour old. I want it to cure before I go over it with another color. It helps me not fuck up the previous layer if I cross a line and need to clean it up, I full intend to do the color corrections tomorrow. Also, only the bit on the wrist has a blue part.

>>23378624
I am doing that right now.

>>23378570
paint"Gods" are not sending their best

>>23378301
yes, even though it'll probably cost a ton due to the sheer size and that's without tariffs

>>23378351
>Tries to make sense out of average Asian workshop
Rookie mistake

>>23378351
What is there to make sense of? Dude is in an enclosed balcony or porch. Those are trees in the background. You know what trees are right? As far as the roof goes? Dudes is in asia, most of them can't afford nice roofs.

>>23378605
I have gunpla kits in my backlog because I bought them before tariffs so I got them cheaper

>>23378675
I did this two with a bunch of kits and now there's so much conflicting information on the tariffs that I don't care too much anymore

>>23378632
You fool. I am one of the few people here who thinks there is nothing wrong with not painting. I just personally enjoy it.

>>23378624
>>23378614
>>23378570
Now it's done. I also forgot to show off the fluorescent paint on the eyes. Tomorrow I will take real photos. I haven't taken actual photos of my last few builds so I have to get around to it. I just hate taking photos.

So how do you think will Gundam Base release Hyper Mode versions of the rest of the HGFC Shuffle Alliance? Either as a full set of four, or as sets of two in reference to their anti-Heavenly King combo attacks? (Basically Rose and Maxter as the Rose Magnum Hurricane Set, and then the Dragon and Bolt as the Graviton Kochouken Hammer Set.)

You shouldn’t have to panel line a Perfect Grade.

Simple as

>>23378780
Why

>>23378775
how is this not a snapbuild

>>23378787
I painted it rx-78-2 gundam colors instead of aerial colors.

>>23378788
??? It just looks like a normal aerial rebuild

>>23378784
You're paying like 30,000 yen (66,000 for PG Unleashed models) for a "Perfect" Grade kit and the damn thing still looks flat unless you spend another few hours drawing on it with a marker. If it actually was perfect, it should look finished right out of the box. That’s the whole point of a premium kit. The detail should pop naturally with shadows, part separation, and smart design not because you traced a bunch of fake lines and let’s be real half the panel lines are bullshit anyway. They don't represent actual mechanical seams, just random grooves to fill space. Lining them just makes the kit look like a toy. Completely breaks the scale realism these kits are supposed to have.
PGs should be engineered to not need panel lining at all. Optional is just a crutch for “elitist” retards. If it needs it to look good, it ain't perfect.

>>23378799
ah yeah i hear you that makes sense. at that price point and scale you really should have real details with shadows and not just drawing it on with markers

>>23378797
Sorry bucko. Read the labels.

>>23378799
You're a fucking idiot. Giving you this (you) because you typed a lot, but it's all stupid so good job.

How come the era of the 90s and 2000s had so many gundams that were just another shitty gundam?

>>23378570
how did you get it done in a day? doesn't it have to dry

>>23378838
It only takes like 10 minutes for a layer to dry enough to tough.

>>23378805
Is the Aqueous line of paints as good as the regular acrylics?

>>23378847
It is significantly tougher than most other acrylics once it dries. Vallejo mecha color is pretty tough but I think the aqueous hobby color is still tougher. It seems to work fine with normal acrylic airbrush thinner and retarder too. I haven't used mr.colors water based acrylics though. It also levels pretty well with less added retarder than most acrylic require.
It does suck ass for brush painting though. It really is airbrush only.

>>23378828
Because Bandai was very insistent on keeping the design for the mainline Gundam to look and resemble a Gundam because maybe of Turn A flopping.

>>23378867
But it did better than X

>>23378867
Every one of these besides freedom and strike freedom was before turn A

>>23378828
i hate all these niggas

>>23378869
Then again F91 flopped badly, maybe in retail it didn't?

>>23378876
I'm gonna touch you

do you guys think turn a and it's merchandise would of been more popular if syd mead was credited under a japanese pseudonym and the japs didn't know the gundam was designed by an amerigod?

>>23378869
Gundam X was killed by a timeslot change, not bad sales.

>>23378872
I honestly thought Turn A was just after F91.

>>23378884
this is classic xfag cope. the timeslot change actually saved you guys because now you have an excuse to cry about your show being cancelled.

>>23378886
It was at the turn of the millenium, 1999-2000

>>23378887
I've never actually seen it though.

>>23378889
>I've never actually seen it though.
why

>MS Igloo had 3 entries.

What the fuck was it popular? G-Saviour got banished to the never-mention realm and I just assumed MS Igloo was the same.

>>23378893
I just don't have much interest in an unfinished story.

>>23378895
It's a finished story thoughbeit.

>>23378903
I was told it was cancelled before it was finished. Was I lied to?

>>23378909
It was cancelled, but they still finished the story in the episodes alloted by just speeding up their plans. It reaches a satisfying ending overall but a lot of plot exploring the SRA and late-season politics was cut.

>>23378909
You know MSG was cancelled too, right?

>>23378912
Well I guess I will have to give it a watch. Thanks.

>>23378856
>It does suck ass for brush painting though
Like anything else that's shade dependent. I've got some metallic black aqueous for instance it brushes really well. But brush anything on large surfaces is always gonna suck.

>>23378924
It just feels gluey and it's very hard to not get brush marks with it. With how much it needs thinned to not feel that bad, it has very poor coverage. I've tried brush painting like 6 different colors and they all felt bad. I actually swore off the paint until recently, figuring that it might just work better in an airbrush. Which it does. Vallejo is a much better paint for brush painting.

>>23378869
>But it did better than X
That's the most redditor cope i have ever seen ( Turn A's main fanbase aka vocal retards ). Turn A was a colossal failure on commercial aspect due to how the show pandered to literall normie subhumans, they couldn't give 2 shits about the robot or nerdy style of the franchise. Atleast Bandai bothered to make a handful of HGs for X, but Turn A? A single HG for the protag and that's it. The rest are Build Fighter fanfiction.

>>23378374
Knife

>>23378938
Just looking at those bottles you had, whites and yellows tend to have poor coverage innately(at least relative to other pigments, it's a common issue regardless of brand). Reds and blues can go either way. Vallejo is just prethinned to the proper ratio which is why it feels better out of the bottle.

>>23378944
Is this why they call turn a “tumblr a” or tumblr gundam?

>>23378998
Who is "they"? Are they in the room with us now?

>>23378992
Vallejo still needs thinned to run through an airbrush. Aqueous hobby color needs to be thinner than vallejo for brush painting because it's really sticky. It ends up needing more coats than vallejo does to get a comparable surface finish.
I will say the aqueous yellow and white do have better pigmentation when you thin them to airbrush consistency. That's why I use them. I actually have a lot of colors of both. I just only posted the ones I used on aerial, aside from the one I used for the eyes.
Here's a build I did in december when I was just starting to paint. It's all brush painted with aqueous hobby color so I ended up learning a lot about the nuances of that paint on a brush.

>>23379005
Idk man I’ve seen it posted along with that image around the board over the years

>>23379015
You posting it does not count phonefag.

>>23379020
You sound mad

>>23378998
It's actually really good. It feels like a culmination of tominos work and beliefs. It's a story of a heinous killing machine being used to help others in a non violent way. It's a future where humanity has reset back to the era where it made its worst mistakes and can try again to create a better tomorrow. It being weird is intentional because it's set thousands of years after the UC. It's as far from where we are now as we are from living in caves.

>>23379032
>heinous killing machine being used to help others in a non violent way
Sounds faggy as fuck. Do people really like this shit?

>>23379037
It's the ultimate conclusion of tominos work. A weapon is only bad if you use it to hurt others. The man had a strong distaste for war and a story about a war machine being used for for the good of all is a perfect finale for his work.

>>23379047
Well no thanks. I'm a toxic male who only want to see cool robots fighting, war and bunch of random npcs dying.

>>23379058
You'd like gundam seed. Lots of action and it also has big boobs bouncing around to look at.

>>23378544
I have a pretty large backlog. But mostly because I buy shit I want when it's cheap, and I used to get kits as gifts; but life happens, and it takes me a while to get around to building/painting. I haven't bought a new kit in a long time. Might not for years to come. In the meantime, I'll whittle away at what I've got. Maybe sell some if I really don't think I'll ever get around to them.

>>23379006
>vallejo needs to be thinned
Complicated topic. I find i get the best surface when i don't thin vallejo air. However it always clogs. I think id rather deal with the clogging after 30 pieces, than thin it, and ruin the smooth surface.

Why does tamiya black hiss? Ithought it was a dirty airbrush, cleaned the airbrush. Than i thought the paint might just be old and swapped it for a new tamiya black.

Than i tested 3 other colors and no hiss.

I dont know if theres an additive that causes this or i just got a bad batch. Either way it sprayed fine when i changed the bottle.

Ok, just snapshit Gcucks Police Zaku. I have mixed feelings about this thing. Yes it is a pretty Zaku, has smooth build experience and all good things come from Bandai. But as a retail model, it is just so small and deliver bare minimum accessories for such price tag.

Final question before i finish my aerial and post it this weekend.

Are you supposed to prime ALL of your kit in one sitting. I feel like this would save me almost a week of time, and it sure sped up runner A on the aerial i built.

>>23378301
Where can i get it...

>>23379099
Add retarder to it so it doesn't dry on the tip. You should also be thinning it with their airbrush thinner instead of water. Water makes it lose its tackiness. I don't use their air line though. It's all model color or mecha color for what I do.

>>23379111
I don't. I cut out pieces by step, prime and paint them as I go. I just separate the clips by the paint color I'm going to use and prime them different colors to dictate the tone I want. I posted my aerial earlier and it's why some of the blues are darker than others.

>>23379111
If you have it all ready to go and enough space there really isn't any reason you can't.

>>23379121
I feel like individually priming each runner is a huge time sink. The majority of my time is setup, so getting everything primed in one day feels like it should be correct.

>>23379110
These 2 can be buddy cops. The fat, unpredictable psychopath and the stoic, no nonsense shortking.

>>23379124
Why is it taking you so long time prime? It only takes me like 30 seconds to clean my airbrush between colors or going from primer to paint.

>>23379125
Also, Xamel is such a fun kit. Shame how most of people sleep on this thing.

>>23379133
I like the Xamel but not enough to buy this. I'll wait for Bandai to make one or China to make a better one.

>>23379133
who makes Xamel kit and where to get it?

>>23378828
because people throw shitfits when new gundam don't conform to this. see: gquuuuuux designs

>>23379125
Shouldn't it be the other way around? The chill fat guy and the unpredictable psychopath manlet?

>>23379111
I don't even bother priming if I paint the kit in similar or darker colors, lacquer paint is tough enough on bare plastic to not be a problem

>>23379136
Well this is as far as the Chinese could go for an ultilitarian design. The only affordable Xamel kit. If you wait for Bandai, that would be just another hopeless prayer.

>>23379149
Well Xamel wasn't exactly "chill". He dashed in high speed and engage in combat with a bloodlust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj8Yy9e04Ds

What are the actual differences between the generic beam saber runners like SB1, 6 or 13? I didn't notice the sabers being any different (aside from scale because I don't remember which is which off the top of my head)

>>23379143
It is a 3rd party kit from a studio named " Motor King ". They also made a Zaku Tank kit.

Whats with the namefagging

>>23379171
A man without name is a man without purpose. We shall live with our names and will be remebered by those names once we have died.

>>23379163
Looks pretty chill me to.

>>23379125
>>23379133
THIN

>>23379186
Hold your horse, anon. They are epoxy putty.

>>23379188
yeah that's obvious
and it obviously looks like shit

>>23379190
Thanks for the compliment.

Dumb question: Why shouldn't I just use regular Mr. Color Thinner instead of Leveling Thinner, if I can get the coat on uniformly anyway? The whole point of Leveling Thinner is that it has a retarder that allows the paint/primer to self-level a little before drying, but whenever I spray it on it seems to go on uniformly anyway.

>>23379275
Not a dumb question at all actually

>>23379275
If it works it works.

>>23379275
Leveling thinner is like insurance, ya feel me nigga?

>>23378775
Nice job. The superimposed photo of the fluorescent eyes made me think of an old meme.

Worked for 5-6 hours straight and feel like I barely got anything done.
Did tons of unnoticeable work cleaning up nubs, did a first pass for painting the rifle, then painted the head vulcans and shoulder thrusters yellow.

>>23379304
>Did tons of unnoticeable work cleaning up nubs
and there's one right on the wrist.
reeeeee

>>23378894
Two of those "entries" were just parts 1 and 2 of the same story. IGLOO 2 is kinda a shock though.

>>23378938
>>23378992
>>23379006
does vallejo need to be thinned to brush paint?

>>23378234
Officially reached the "nearly there" for my groupbuild. Just got the legs, grip, the pilot and some extra smaller cannons for the big gun to paint.
Not super happy with her breasts, not only did I get my paints backwards for them but it was my first time using putty and I obviously did not file it flush enough, so I'm tempted to dig through my MD collection for another pair to try again.

https://youtu.be/HitoCLtIghA?si=9R9Cek3VYHAMaSni
So a Titans RX-78 existed in the SD Gundam BB Senshi G Generations line (this one's a recolored BB-200 kit), which makes me think, what if the unbuilt RX-78-8 was actually bought by Anaheim Electronics to serve as the basis for the Movable Frame used in the GP Series and later the Gundam Mk-II after the former got its data destroyed following Operation Stardust?

>>23378301
I'm a little worried. Is it too heavy to be poseable?

>>23379133
I'm just too scared that I'll get filtered

>>23379414
You won't as long as you have all the basic tools

>>23379368
Not really, although to an extent that's up to personal taste. It comes pre thinned in bottle, although some applications might want even thinner I guess.

>>23379368
Yes. You can just use a little bit of water. A wet palette will be very helpful too. Don't buy an expensive one, though. Look up a guide for making one yourself. It's really easy and won't cost much.

>>23379422
I have hand drills, rods and adhesives. Do I need electric tools and boilers for something like a motor king?

>>23379456
Circular saws are mandatory.

Any videos on just water slides applying and then topcoat.

I have a banshee norn PG and realistically all Im going to do to it is apply water decals and then a top coat.

>>23379501
gloss coat > water slides with setter and maybe softener if the surface isn't a flat area > top coat

>>23379501
Just as anon said do a gloss coat sandwich or you may as well throw your kit in the trash because you would be wasting it.

>>23378410
fag

I wanna get a Z'gok, is the RG worth double the price of the HG or do I just go for the HG? I've heard some mixed things about the RG

>>23379532
Get the MG

>>23379532
Buy a squad of hgs instead of an rg

>>23379535
Don't have space for the MG
>>23379537
You know, I might just do that

>>23379541
Make them march in formation with their monoeyes looking in different directions so its all cool and shit. Get some waterslides and make sure they're numbered (maybe with a few skips to imply casualties and reinforcements) and of course one gets to have commander chevrons on its shoulder.

>>23379541
if you have the space for the HG there's basically no way you don't have the space for the MG, they don't take up that much more room.

>>23379529
You're gay

>>23379544
Is the HG able to hold a can of monster?

>>23379559
You will need to strengthen the joints

>>23379529
But it’s not a full armor gundam

>>23379559
Only small cans like redbull

>>23378775
Nice milhouse

How come the mg 2.0s and ver kas are so much better than the 1.0s?

>>23379587
Thank you. I was really hoping the colors would look less like the stock ones because of the saturation but they really dont.

>>23379589
this but the opposite

>>23379589
Soul vs soulless overdesigned katoki shit

>>23379589
Honestly both of these are bad
1.0 has bad proportions while ver ka has too much greeble

HOLY SEX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qYElIaN7lU

>>23379603
looks like shit

>>23379603
>their second project also has big binders
I'm willing to bet Queen Mansa is next. That or Qubeleys

>>23379609
What have the chinese created lately that's not a bootleg of an existing bandai robot? I would love to start seeing the chinese make what bandont but we don't get a whole lot of them. I don't consider upscaled as counting.

>>23379589
The ver ka ruined the nu for years to come by making it a lanklet. See RG nu for reference

>>23379619
I guess Black Dingo kind of. But that's about it

>>23379625
>lanklet
It's nowhere near lanklet tier. The narrative is much closer to lanklet because of the lack of armor on its arms

>>23379629
Narrative gundam is so cool. I am thinking of getting the B packs version and painting that psycoframe green.

>>23379603
I love how this debunks the common claim that the reason Bandai won't produce a 1/100 Kshatriya or even a 1/144 Queen Mansa kit is because of the binders.

>>23379634
Just wait for the third factory!

>>23379634
It's because it would be huge and expensive. There was a planned re/100 kshatriya but the line didn't sell well enough for it to come to fruition.

>>23379634
I doubt this thing is going to be particularly nice to pose with the binders. It's never been impossible at all, locking joints can absolutely keep them supported without the joints breaking or anything, but it's a ton of weight to balance off the shoulders.

>>23379639
>huge and expensive
Smaller than the Deep Striker or Neo Zeon.

>>23379642
Those are huge novelties from popular lines. re/100 just wasn't popular. I think if we get one it'll be a master grade.

>>23379634
They almost made Re100 Kshatriya but decided to cancel the plan. It has become one those robots that Bandai treats them as an afterthought, giving them a HG and that's it.

>>23379642
Neo Zeong has no engineering challenges and is just a huge array of basic clamshells just enormous, and Deep Striker's pretty similar except they get to reuse and recycle a decent chunk of parts from the original MG/setup for the MG 1.5 and S Booster. Kshatriya's a lot more complicated than either of them.

>>23379645
>Those are huge novelties
So yes it can be done? LOL

speaking of zhangs and big kits, kinda miffed that the nightingale hg bootleg still goes for big prices on ali

>>23379648
can you find a single post in this thread saying it can't be done or do you just like to argue with your imaginary demons

>>23379649
It has volume. An average HG looks like a dwarf next to it. Alot of Chink bootlegs can get expensive when they are huge.

>>23379649
>>23379651
Also you have tariffs now

>>23379649
It's like 50 bucks isn't it? How cheap did you expect it to be?

>>23379654
Bro it’s cheap Chinese plastic, shit should cost next to nothing

>>23379656
not even chinks have figured out how to make plastic cost negative amounts of money

>>23379656
C'mon anon

>>23379634
They had to give the thing comically huge feet just so it can even stand up

>>23379650
>can you find a single post in this thread
Setting the bar on the moon are we? Just this thread and not the last 10 years of /gpg/ shills screeching it can't be done?
>>23379647
>Neo Zeong has no engineering challenges
Of course it does. The larger the plastic toy becomes the more the engineers have to account for the weight with even simple things like the arms.. This is why certain robots who have giant ass guns cannot hold them up (Sinanju) because bandai did zero engineering to address that issue.

>>23379657
Are they stupid?

>>23379666
so you're just ranting about things people who aren't here saying them said, imaginary demons then
>The larger the plastic toy becomes the more the engineers have to account for the weight with even simple things like the arms..
The Neo Zeong's arms are not an engineering challenge bro. Bandai's made larger plastic models. Nothing the Neo Zeong did took more than the most basic thought. Those arms aren't exactly absurd proportionally, the weight the shoulder joint has to support is paltry for the size of it.

>>23379657
Well they tried and the result was a literal biohazard.

For what its worth, most KOs start off high on ali then go down after a few weeks. Been watching the different KK ground types and they've all started around 25, and ended up at 13. I expect the nightingale will be 30ish in another week or two.

>>23379673
My uncle is an engineer at bandai. He told me dude. It’s an engineering challenge.

>>23379677
This thing looked like straight doodoo

>>23379673
>so you're just ranting about things people who aren't here saying them said, imaginary demons then
Now we've moved onto the "it never happened" stage LMAO

>>23379685
>most literate /gpg/ poster

>>23379685
It never happened tho

>>23379603
LOOKS VERY IMPRESSIVE, BANDAI BTFO

>>23379125
>Xamel:"Whaddya...*Hnnn* Whaddya suppose was in that danish?"

>>23379689
>Don't believe your lying eyes gaijin

>>23379695
you know the edible's hit when you find yourself in G-Quuuuuux UC

How come bandai didn’t make a mg gp02 2.0 or Kshatriya instead of the chinks

Ok, who complained about bootleg Nightingale being too expensive? Just look at the size of this shit.

>>23379733
No, I complained about the torso.

>>23379733
Does it really have misleading boxart? The actual kit is just the 1/144, right?

>>23379746
But the box says exactly 144?

>>23379747
I mean it's just a copy of the Bandai HGUC.

>>23379746
Yeah it is 1/144, however, it is one of those huge fat design.

>>23379752
eww, that zaku looks like the michelin man lost weight but kept the extra skin.

>>23379757
That zaku is one of the best zakus in a long time

>>23379752
Really funny to advertise it with detailed up boxart, guess they think it'll fool people into believing it's an original kit.

>>23379760
The tubes and the leg tumors are like pic related.

>previous thread was talking about how the Tickbalang is such a shelfwarmer
>decide to take a look at it
>the damn thing has fully retractable landing gear and handles, something even the RE/100 Base Jabber failed to accomplish

All right, now I'm actually contemplating grabbing one just for kitbash purposes. Maybe even try to convert one into a Justice Gundam style backpack or such.

>>23379763
I will do a quick snapshit to see if the Changs really greebled it up or keeping it faithful. I do hope they won't add more shits to it

>>23379746
what is misleading about it?

>>23379782
It's highly detailed up in several places the Bandai kit isn't. For instance, you can see the metallic panel on the boxart on the large binder >>23379733
but it's not on it in the image he just posted of the kit
>>23379774

>>23379772
I bought three of them when it came out because I love SFSs. It's actually really cool.

how do you make fluorescent paint glow without shining a uv light on it like pic related

Starting to look into what I need to do to paint kits and have a few questions.
1)For airbrushing, what paint type should I start with. I heard Acrylics take the longest to dry, but Lacquer is the most toxic/annoying to thin.
2)Do you primer/paint/top coat everything after removal from the sprues or can you do some when everything is nicely fixed in place? I'm not going to be changing colors massively if it makes a difference.
3)I have an unfinished but central air'd basement. Is that good enough, or should I get a spray booth and rig up something that goes out the window. The windows are tilt out horizontal ones and not vertical slides, so it would be. It's more annoying to do efficiently when it gets cold out.
4)For kits that have good color separation already, is just doing a top coat after panel lining a decent improvement for a more simple build?

>>23379813
I find lacquers super easy to thin, most Mr. Hobby stuff you thin 2 parts levelling thinner to 1 part paint and you're laughing. Tamiya's a bit thinner from the bottle so you'd use like 1.5 thinner instead and you'd be fine.

>>23379802
I can understand that they had to avoid getting detected by the police since bootlegs are illegal. There are alot more ridiculously misleading box arts than Nightingale.

>>23379817
Yeah I don't really care too much, as if misleading boxart even registers when it's a bootleg to begin with lmao. I just had a hint of worry it might be a redesign rather than the Bandai kit, glad it's not.

>>23379813
>1)For airbrushing, what paint type should I start with. I heard Acrylics take the longest to dry, but Lacquer is the most toxic/annoying to thin.
Lacquers are the most forgiving to airbrush and have the best looking finish, but you should have a mask and ventilation for them. Their biggest issues are not being able to be hand brushed at all, and lack of availability in some regions due to VOC regulations & poor international distribution.
>Do you primer/paint/top coat everything after removal from the sprues or can you do some when everything is nicely fixed in place?
If a bunch of parts are all going to be the same color, and they don't move, then there's no reason not to assemble them first. Just use some common sense.
>The windows are tilt out horizontal ones and not vertical slides
This tells me you're probably European, which will affect the paint brands available to you considerably.

>>23379833
>Same color parts
Ok, so do everything after removal from sprue/nub trimming.
>European
US actually, it's that design so you can exit via it during a fire. It was a requirement to allow finishing a bedroom into the basement eventually.

>>23379836
Oh, the more you know. Thinking about it again the central air should've tipped me off.
In any case, as long as you can get a spray booth set up and you're primarily going to be airbrushing, I would definitely suggest going with lacquers, they will simply provide a smoother, more forgiving experience which is especially valuable if you're new.

How many projects have you finished so far this year bros? I'm sitting at a pretty impressive 4 right now, about to start painting the fifth.

>>23379844
started 6 and finished 0
I hate myself

>>23379842
I'll look into getting a spray booth bought/built then. I probably should get a vent solution anyway since my resin 3D printer is down there also. Has an internal filter, but might as well make that better also.

Bros what will be the next ver ka mg? It’s been a minute. Zephyranthes? Mk ii? Another sinanju?

>>23379603
Pretty impressive engineering

>>23379851
Something from Wing probably

>>23379856
What’s left from wing for a ver ka?

>>23379512
I dont know why some of you fags think a gloss coat is necessary, Ive built dozens of kits with hundreds of slides applied and never had issues.

>>23379844
Four as well. Pretty sure I won't be able to do all that I had planned to do. Hoping I can at least get my current one done before mid august. I have to glue parts and sand sand sand sand, it's hard to find motivation

>1/144 KOG
>not the buster version
god damnit Volks

>>23379813
1. Acrylics and enamels take a long time to dry. Acrylics are very hard to airbrush with, it's usually used for hand painting miniatures (which is an entire other art form). You usually want to airbrush using lacquers, they're the easiest to work with but you do need a good respirator and a spraybooth and ventilation setup to protect your lungs. It's also possible to airbrush with enamels, though there are still fumes to worry about since you'll be mixing the enamel with hardware store lacquer thinner.

2. Yes, you remove the parts from the runner, shave the nubs down and then paint each piece individually. To that end you'll want to buy a bunch of alligator clips to hold the parts as they dry (obviously also keep them in a place where hair and dust can't settle on the pieces in the meantime). The vast majority of model kits aren't undergated, so you definitely don't want to just spray the pieces on the runner.

3. Ideally you want a spray booth with a hose that goes out a window. You definitely want good ventilation because your lungs (and your health in general) are more important than a hobby. There are some setups where you can direct your spray booth into a fume bucket lined with filters and water for catching particulate matter, but it's a poor man's method and just pumping the fumes out of your house is much safer. It's worth buying an extra adapter and/or hose setup to direct your spray booth out of your window.

4. Flat coat on top of bare plastic is the lazy man's method since it doesn't even require an airbrush, just buy a rattle can of top coat. However, it is still recommended to paint the parts (accounting for the contact surfaces that rub together since they can scratch your paint coat), because a painted surface looks a lot better than bare plastic, even with the top coat trick. You also want the kit to look consistent, bare plastic surfaces next to painted surfaces clash pretty badly.

>>23379844
Like 2, or rather 1.5.

>>23379812
They're shining a UV light on it in those pics, there's just enough ambient light to make it less obvious

>>23379844
tbf I haven't kept count. I'll tally it for the end of year collage though

>>23379863
Tragos, Taurus, Aries, Virgo, etc

Capricorn Ver. Ka is coming.

how relevant is humidity when you’re airbrushing, either inside or outside?

>>23379896
... Wing Gundam?

>>23379897
in my experience airbrushing is not as sensitive to temperature and humidity as rattlecans are

sanding time

>>23379910
I intend on buying an avon c50 sooner or later. I will wear that when sanding and painting.

>>23379899
What about it?

>>23379885
None of these are getting mg ver kas. They won’t even get regular mgs. Their ceiling is pb hgs

>>23379920
What is Capricorn?

>>23379812
there's a certain frequency of uv that will show the glow and doesn't really show up on camera. i don't recall what it was exactly but i remember someone saying this

whats a good spray booth for airbrushing lacquers

>>23379922
An astrological sign

>>23379924
The one you build yourself

Just scored a 40 dollar master grade barbatos at hpbby lobby. Be envious.

>>23379929
>barbatos
no thanks, i'm good

>>23379936
I've heard it is really good. I've never seen the show so its alleged shittiness will not affect my enjoyment of the kit.

>>23379936
Why come?

>>23379929
I got the sazabi ver ka labeled as the kshatria and 40% off

>>23379942
based

>>23379940
Ibo is fine. It’s just /m/ contrarians who hate on it. It has one of the highest MAL ratings of any gundam show

>>23379922
The best sign

>>23379734
I also complained about the torso. I’m worried if I cut out the waste it will no longer be in scale

mg gramps 4.0 when? The last one is over 10 years old at this point

>>23379812
365nm uv light, gotta be this exact type, don't be a tard like me and buy one of those stronger UV lights that illuminate the entire area in UV purple.

>>23379910
>sanding time

>>23379125
Update on the buddy cops. Finally painted Police Zaku.

>>23379981
Pffttt

>>23379982
I sort of dislike this kit OOB, but after painting it, i kinda like it much better now ( even though it looks 10 times uglier ).

>>23379984
Action

>>23379985
put the little man atop the fat man
make him master blaster

>>23379984
I too design war machines with giant SHOOT ME HERE tumors.

>>23379988
I too don't understand armour

>>23379985
You gotta get em a third guy for a proper MS squad

>>23379991
Based.

>>23379991
They need to take your putty away until you can prove you'll be more responsible with it.

>>23379990
I'm thinking about it, but not sure which monoeye should i get. Probably Zgok or Gcucks Lightcannon.

>>23379984
nice tablet mine cost less than the 30MM kit standing on top of it

>>23379989
That's not armor.

>>23379997
Z'Gok would fit way fucking better and be the first third man for those boys. Plus you can draw from real crabs with your putty love.

>>23379999
you're right it's just shaped metal protecting the contents within
oh fuck wait

>>23379997
Gotta go with Hambraby or pumpkin pie warrior for that air support

>>23379998
No way, Spinatia is just dirt cheap unless you got scammed somehow.

>>23380006
I think you misread his post. Try again.

>>23380004
bro, I get that you're a rabid bandai fanatic but you need to stop defending to the death these dogshit new designs. At the very least this retarded zaku should have the tanks placed solely on the rear of the machine where it would hopefully not have someone attacking it. but I guess newfag bandai designers think that it's normal to put highly volatile tanks in front for the enemy to shoot. Must have gotten all their knowledge of design from video games.

>>23380006
I bought the tablet on a black friday sale

>>23379988
AIIIIEEE, IS THAT A MOBILE SUIT WITH EXPOSED WEAK POINT? I'M GOING INSANE

>>23380020
What the hell, where's my image

>>23380013
bro, I get you just hate new thing and are trying to find reasons to rationalize your hate instead of just saying you don't like it but guess fucking what, those "uoooh so vulnerable and obvious to shoot at fuel tanks!!" would result in the same
exact
fucking
shit
that would happen if you shot a Dom leg or a Zaku leg in the first place, where do you think their fuel is stored? Where, anon? Slipspace? Is it up their ass in a magical container? Where are the Zaku's fuel tanks to keep it so safe as compared to a globe design that, for all we know, is as or more armoured than the cockpit sitting right next to it or the fusion reactor also sitting right fucking next to it? You want to sit and jerk off old designs and explain why the Zaku has power cabling running around its fucking chest? From its legs? It's because it looks cool you braindead troglodyte, it has always been because it looks cool, that's the entire point of drawing COOL ROBOTS.

>>23380013
Yeah, that design seems dangerous as hell. I originally thought they were just stylized greebles on Zaku's thighs until i look at the behind. They are indeed sphere shaped thruster tanks lol.

>>23380023
lol this guy likes balls

>>23380026
god damn fucking right I like balls

>>23380023
>I get you just hate new thing
not an argument, didn't read the rest. There are new things that I like so checkmate atheist.
>>23380025
I understand why that one shitposter wouldn't stop calling half the thread bandai babies. /gpg/ becomes /v/ tier with how badly some of these clowns will suck bandai cock.

>>23380013
Do you guys really think that fuel tanks will explode when shot? In space where without oxygen?

>>23380028
which kits are those?

>>23380031
decades of video game brainrot shooting the barrels.

>>23380031
How exactly do you think rockets work in space if you're now claiming that fuel cannot combust.

>>23380034
what causes the fuel to combust when you shoot it with a bullet anon

>>23380013
Most types of compressed fuel actually aren't that explosive until they're oxygenated. You can shoot a propane tank and it wont explode.
>t. redneck

>>23380034
It needs to be oxygenated before it'll burn. That's probably why there's multiple tanks.

What's the ugliest member of the RGM family and why is it the Jesta

>>23380035
What causes the fuel to combust when it you put it in the engine in space, anon? There is no oxygen in space.
>>23380037
>It needs to be oxygenated before it'll burn
So let's say that even if magically things can't explode in space (lmao we know this is false), these Zakus apparently DID NOT fight in the OXYGENATED colonies.

>>23380040
>What causes the fuel to combust when it you put it in the engine in space, anon? There is no oxygen in space.
Well for one thing you understood the question wrong, because fuel doesn't combust when you shoot it with a bullet. For another, they have oxidizers for combustion that get injected at the nozzle, that's how rocket engines work.

>>23380022
I hate how the missile pods on this is mounted on the plane. You'd think the unicorn version has mechanisms that let it match the show, but no.

>>23380040
They probably have separate oxygen tanks to make the fuel burn. It's actually very important to manage the ratio of fuel to oxygen in rockets. Even cars are pretty picky about the fuel to air ratio in the engines. That's the whole reason you need to tune a carborateur.
Here's some short form slop to help your tiny brain understand this.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wY8Psn1TboA

>>23380031
I believe thrusters themselves have oxygen in order to maintain the ignition, especially for something can function out of space like Zaku

>>23379733
Its like $25

>>23380044
What are you talking about? half the Zssa's missiles have always been in its boost pod.

>>23380043
>fuel doesn't combust when you shoot it with a bullet
https://youtu.be/Xo4YwRjvGfM?si=4wsUTbbMt77bkQvO&t=676
>that's how rocket engines work
chud beat me to it.
>>23380045
>what happens when you shoot a propane tank
Oh I got one for that too. Balliastic high speed did a slow mo video of that :)
https://youtu.be/KvTwexbFsuw?si=BFydzUDQzhSH_32F

>>23380050
Wow, you found a video of people rigging a tank to explode so they can record it. You sure showed me.

>>23380049
The one in unicorn had shoulder mounted pods.

>>23380050
>incendiary rounds
Please stop being so fucking stupid.

>>23380052
>>23380058
Let's not even discuss the types of weapons that these robots are using. Bigger than tank rounds and every single one seems to make components explode in the animation and those don't even contain fuel.

>>23380059
Probably because explosions are cool and none of this shit is real

>>23380059
Are you aware Zakus were developed in expectation of small-arms fire from warship AA guns and traditional vehicles and not other MS scaled weaponry?

NTA but I really like the new zaku and think the old zaku and gelgoog were the ugliest designs. Given how prone the zakus are to exploding in the original series, it makes perfect sense to me that they would have fuel tanks in weird places. Aren't spherical tanks very common for monopropellant rockets? And having the tanks on the legs away from the cockpit and main body seems sensible enough.

>>23380062
We have come full circle back to my original argument. I'm glad we played this game, it wasn't fun.
>>23380064
>We came up with the excuse that they're retarded in universe so that justifies putting the fuel tanks in front of the walking tank
I can't wait until gcucks FOTM dies so I don't have to see these retarded designs again. It's bad enough that normal Zakus set off nuclear explosions after their reactors are shot in the middle of the chest.

>>23380065
You don't understand. It's different than the one that was drawn 45 years ago. This is a personal attack against me because everything has to be the same forever.

>>23380070
>Take something I like
>Make it bad
>WTF YOU CANT CALL IT BAD AIEEEE

>>23380056
To be completely honest, it doesn't make any sense.

>>23380072
Not everything is about you. You are an unimportant autistic person on the internet.

>>23380065
No, the fuel goes to the crotch and butt, too since they also have thrusters. If it explodes, that would be the cockpit/torso + crotch + thighs.

>>23380072
>I don't like this
>okay
>this design is shit because this makes no sense unlike my original perfect design which is 100% utilitarian
>you're a retard
it just boils down to this

>>23380074
>Not everything is about you
Not everything is about you either. just because you like it doesn't mean other people like it, kid.

>>23380077
You're throwing an unsolicited fit about it.

ZakuAurelius is pretty cool

>>23380076
>>23380078
>I don't like the new Zaku because of these reasons including reasons rooted in logical inconsistencies
>*incoherent screeching about how you're not allowed to dislike things you're not important reeee"
Are you guys bandai employees? I like how me stating that the fuel tanks being in the front of the robot is stupid you retards take as personal attacks. Really interesting.

>>23380065
If you don't like Zakus you don't like Gundam

>>23380068
>We came up with the excuse that they're retarded in universe so that justifies putting the fuel tanks in front of the walking tank
It's not a walking tank, Zakus are developed primarily for space combat and their entire shtick is being mobile, not immobile.

Also setting material explicitly calls out nuclear explosions don't actually happen and it's just mundane explosions, despite a couple of scenes in various anime.

>>23380080
And why did you start throwing a fit to begin with? Did someone ask you "hey autistic sweeb, can you start screeching about gcucks again?"

>>23380080
Your logical inconsistency has literally no merit thoughbeit, and you'll still keep glossing over zaku power cables as being nonsense because umm it's just fine okay??

>>23380084
>not immobile
Anon, tanks literally have treads to be MOBILE. They're not pillboxes. What the fuck is wrong with some of you?

>>23380087
Tanks don't have rocket engines to jump anon. What the fuck is wrong with YOU? Jesus christ, did I say tanks are static emplacements?

>>23380085
>>23380086
Are you really now stating that I'm not allowed to say I dislike something? Wow, conceited much?
>>23380090
>Tanks don't have rocket engines
Tanks use fuel to drive. Last I checked, the front glacis doesn't have those fuel tanks strapped to them because the designers of tanks aren't stupid children. In fact, I think even children aren't so dumb as to strap fuel tanks to the front of their drawings.

>>23380093
>Tanks use fuel to drive
>rocket engines to jump
>to jump
literacy would help you anon

>>23380095
>literacy
I not only addressed your dumbass rocket jumping argument but also compared it to a real life analog. I've clearly upset some rabid retards for stating my opinion that the fuel tumors on the front of the robot is fucking stupid.

can you guys believe this dogshit design? there's literally fuel in those huge easily shootable surfaces

>>23380081
I got into Gundam for the models initially, but stayed because I liked the show

>>23380087
I think what anon is saying is that mobile suits were designed for space combat, where the suits aren't always upright. If the shoulders and upper chest are the armored parts, wouldn't it make sense to angle those to face the enemy, with the legs behind? Then the thigh thrusters would also be pointed in the correct direction to move towards the enemy.

>>23380099
I forgot that tanks are designed for space combat and having to propel themselves in every direction, necessitating thrusters and fuel feeds to cover large angles of operation

>>23380100
Fixed to make it more accurate.
>>23380101
>>23380102
>mobile suits were designed for space combat
Oh okay. So Zakus did not fight on Earth and did not fight in the colonies. You literally cannot win this argument. In no reality does putting your fuel tanks on the front of the war machine make sense. Forget the explosions, your take damage and your fuel leaks. If you faggots are shitposting this is just sad.

What happens if you shoot the war machines in the giant “SHOOT ME HERE” tumors?

>>23380104
>So Zakus did not fight on Earth and did not fight in the colonies.
they also fought in space, being a design capable of both with considerations for both, you mental midget

>>23380100
Airfighters are indeed extremely vulnerable. That's why they are compensated by their speed. You are more likely to die in that than in a tank.

>>23380107
absolutely perfect image for this

>>23380106
>they also fought in space
That's nice. I too design my armored war machines with one of their means of propulsion in the front where the bullets are raining from.

>>23380110
You mean like the original Zaku that carries its fuel tanks behind the leg armour right?

>>23380115
You forgot the bulbous giant shoot me here borbs on the legs to show the fuel tanks behind the leg armor.

>>23380117
>heh, I will shoot him in his non vitals instead of centermass to kill him, an excellent plan
>they are more vulnerable because IDK they just are it only works for my scenario if the fuel tanks are actually poorly armour so I will assume they are
>once again all I am saying is merely that I don't like balls not that they're actually more vulnerable or have any legitimate practicality concerns on my giant robot

>>23380122
>Original Zaku has leg thrusters
>Put fuel tanks behind the armor of the legs discretely
>Nu Zaku has thrusters
>Strap fuel weather balloons obnoxiously to the hips
>/gpg/ will literally die defending it
I'm glad we had another very productive /gpg/ thread full of retards who must consume new thing no matter what without an ounce of constructive criticism being allowed towards them.

>>23380127
>>Put fuel tanks behind the armor of the legs discretely
>are literally just behind a plate of armour
>just like the fuel balls
this is the part where you've gone full retard anon. Those fuel balls could have two foot thick walls of metal.

>>23380133
this
why bother armoring zakus at all when even the gundam's low caliber headcannon bullets shred a zaku to pieces

>>23380133
there shouldn't even be an opposing army to the mc gundam anyway they just lose in the end

>>23380135
heh imagine not just 360 noscoping the MC and his bitch gundam lol, lmao

>>23380135
How the hell Anaheim top dogs will afford new mansions and luxury goods then?

>>23380137
>Dom
That's weird.

>>23380142
Nothing weird about the one true gundam killer

How come the bad guys always lose

>>23380145
Yeah there is, look at all those thrusters. Where are the big ass fuel tanks?

I don't understand this thread. Sometimes it's one of the coolest threads around, just enjoying modeling and painting spoons and other times arguing for hours about the stupidest shit.

>>23380147
don't you see how big the feet are?

>>23380148
>just enjoying modeling and painting
I seriously doubt that, chief.

>>23380148
too much autism that equates to not liking things to things being inherently bad
unironically the constant plague of retarded arguments whether it's proportions or fixed pose kits or greebles or zaku testicles

>>23380148
an anon who will not cede despite being proven wrong or countered at every step is probably the worst occurence that any thread could have

>>23380065
By the new zaku are you talking about the one from Gcuck?? If you actually think the older one looked ugly and you think the new one looks BETTER you might ACTUALLY be retarded unironically. The GKEK zaku looks like it’s fetish inflation artwork. Don’t bother arguing against this because you literally can’t. The new gelgoog looks ugly IMO but at the bare minimum I can’t make the same criticism of it as the zaku which is self evident and even an imbecile could see it.

>>23380155
No no, i will give testicles anon that. The spheres do look like testicles.

>>23380148
It will be cool again once I finish my aaliyah, trust the plan

>>23380156
how could PirateSoftware ruin /gpg/ like this??

>>23380160
I doubt anyone here gone to Maldavius Figtree's level of dark, trying to sleep with a teenager and all.

>>23380158
What's funny is that I'm not even calling them testicles, just their positioning is fucking stupid. Although having a sleeker shape probably would be smarter too. Why now all of a sudden have fuel pods been made round?

>>23380157
Fuck you the new zaku is cool

>>23380163
No, the show does have long fuel tanks. But it is alot more stupid.

>>23380163
spherical tank can withstand higher pressures and use thinner walls than a cylindrical one, but in practice manufacturing perfect spheres is rather difficult so cylinders are used instead as a compromise

>>23380163
The only issue I have with this design is the exposed psychoframe

>>23380172
Katoki doesn't seem too bad now, eh?

>>23378828
They had already perfected the design more or less. Their only mistake was making so many alt universes while simultaneously advancing the UC timeline so far forward. if they did not do this there would never have been a need to Lee making new gundams at all when the few they had already made were fine. I see the gundam similarly to masterchief from halo where they already had an iconic design. And to fuck with it too much basically ruins everything and they do not need to fix what isnt broken and has already proven to be massively popular. by creating more and more gundams you diminish the significance of the gundam and it stops mattering in anyway when they make a new one. It’s essentially just marvel tier bullshit like how Tony stark has 500 armor versions. No one gives a fuck except consoomers and the franchise is cheapened as a result.

>>23380157
tell me arbiter of good taste, what do you think about this overpriced british plamo design? It reminds me of the classic zaku

>>23380163
some might say from the original gundam

>>23380177
You might be clinically blind then if anything it looks like the juggernaut from X-men. I’m assuming that’s from warhammer but really that design looks more at home with the miniature game warmachine. Warhammer went full retard at some point in the 2010s and I assume that model has come out since then where they have fucked up the establish aesthetic of all the armies. The peak was the early and mid 2000s during the DAWN OF WAR 1 era.

>>23380182
>my face as I read some of the arguments in this thread

>>23380189
fucking kek

>>23380176
I don’t know if this is a shitpost or not but I actually agree. I prefer the series that try to do something unique with their design language instead of just rehashing the same gundams and zakus all over again. Would be cool to get a variety of cool robots instead of endless variations of the same one. That’s why I like the hgs of the classic 80s real robot shows like l-gaim and Dunbine and dragonar. It’s refreshing to do something different

>>23380195
That's nice bro. Fuck out of my face with your gay orbs.

>>23380171
You ball fetishists are missing the obvious elephant in the room. Gundam picks and chooses when to be realistic and when not to be based on what they can get away with while still making it look cool because at the end of the day the design they make is supposed to sell physical merchandise. there is no reason to use ugly spherical fuel tanks for a fictional science fiction franchise just because it may be 2% more realistic when the net effect is massively negative making designs that do not have a fraction of the appeal of the older ones. It’s foolishness.

>>23380198
You can't not like the tumor Zakus anon, it's illegal.

>>23380028
HGUC GM Juggler P-Bandai fucking WHEN

How come in general designs have gotten worse as time goes on? Feels like the old stuff is good and the new stuff is bad

>>23380197
it's only gay if our orbs touch bro...

>>23380201
you can not like them all you want just don't jerk yourself off over not liking them bro

it's up...
https://schizophonic9.com/re9/bandai_cyberunko.html

>>23380034
please look up rocket propellant oxidisers and monopropellants.

>>23380122
>>23380129
see, the retarded thing here is you retards thinking that explosions have the same forces in space.
if a fuel tank explodes externally, it will do much less damage than one stored internally as there is NO AIR FOR SHOCKWAVES TO TRAVEL THROUGH

>>23380225
Today /gpg/ learned that oxygen (piss) isn't stored in the balls and they're a fuel mixture.

>>23380232
do you think the entirety of a mobile suit has air in it or something? Only the cockpit is likely to be pressurized and oxygenated. it's still transferring force through physical attachment points and it's still an explosion slinging shrapnel directly next to it.

>>23380236
and the further away that the tanks are from internals, the less force is transferred.

>>23380212
People are going to give you a bunch of midwit answers about how it’s because you are getting older but the truth is it isnt just gundam lots of franchises right now have this issue where the older stuff just looks better. I think maybe one reason for this is when a franchise is fresh and new people try to make everything look good but as a franchise goes on it’s more about making things look “new” and “different” and often times that just translates to it being a suboptimal version of an already well made design. I compare gundam to franchises like Halo and Starwars when this comes up. Sure you can say that gundam halo and starwars still gets decent designs here and there but it seems much more rare and almost none of it I see as having the same inherent value of what came before it. It’s just supplementary. I doubt at this point starwars will ever introduce cool shit that stands on equal footing with the OT designs. But somehow they managed to do it anyway with some of the prequel shit and some KOTOR designs. Those were very ambitious projects however that were obviously inspired undertakings. Different eras. Starwars will probably never make anything again with the same level of appeal as darth Vader or general grievous, jango/boba fett, or a tie interceptor or an xwing. just things like Kylo phasma or a ship with a stripe on it. Likewise Gundam will probably never make anything as cool as a zaku 2 or a kampfer or a Rick dom again.


Halo is supposedly rolling back after a decade back towards bungie a design aesthetic after 4 and 5. No one asked 343 studios to reinvent the way everything looked just for the sake of it being new or different. I see much of modern gundam like this where it’s weird looking typically just for the sake of standing out but while it catches my eye none of it is usually something I would want to own.

>>23380237
More accurately, the less they're making contact with. However, the Zaku is designed for use on ground and space, so talking about only space where things are the better case scenario is useless.

>>23380194
>classic 80s real robot shows
Replacing one 80s (or late 70s) robot with other 80s robots isn't really addressing the fundamental issue of the genre being a well that ran dry well over 3 decades ago and is now just either rehashing the same shit over and over or bastardizing the classics with horrid new designs

>>23380240
Do you even realize how insanely different the Zeta Gundam actually looks from the original Gundam when you say shit like this? Have you looked at the roster of robots in the Tomino UC shows in your life?

>>23380241
NTA but my impression is that the zaku was mainly intended for space use. It functions well enough on land and I usually associate it with that, but I think it was mainly meant for space combat. I think this is why they made the DOM because some video I watched a while back said the zakus did not have much of an advantage on earth against tanks and this led to them making a faster more agile unit for land based combat and that was the Dom for hit and run attacks. I may be wrong about some of this though.

>>23380248
aww look at it go, he's so close to hitting level 16 and evolving into a Zaku

>>23380246
>Do you even realize how insanely different the Zeta Gundam actually looks from the original Gundam
yeah and it was bad then too, the zeta is fucking ugly and they didn't make a design as radically different as that again for decades

>>23380249
The Zaku was intended primarily for lunar and zero-g operations but functioned (poorly) on Earth. Then they made a few successive types, eventually the -J which is properly optimized for ground use. The Gouf goes further with being a ground Zaku. The Dom is effectively a competing design from a different company.

>>23380212
In my opinion it's because the older designs were created by people who had far different life experiences than the guys today. Someone who grew up playing outside in the countryside will have a different approach and view to things than someone who grew up on the internet and watching isekai.

>>23380244
Ya I’m with you I just want to see some different looking robots

I masturbate to 80s Izubuchi designs and I still pity you sad faggots that can't find a robot to like today

>>23380246
I’m not sure what you are arguing. I like ZZ designs but I do not like them as much as what came before it. I think a lot of the stuff in ZZ looks a little overdesigned. Not to an absurd degree or anything but compared to what came before it I think some of it is just a little too visually busy. If anything I would just say that the longer the franchise has been around there has just been a detail creep where things got more and more out of hand to the point where at times it lost its original visual appeal. I think it’s probably one of gundams most asinine mistakes making it so in such a short in universe span of time the mobile suits changes so quickly and drastically. This make no sense in anyway how they could rapidly prototype and mass produce these machines to only replace them again every few years. And it necessitates the designers being forced to reinvent the wheel constantly churning out new designs. Which statistically can’t all be good with the rate that gundam churned them out.

>>23380223
holy shit I never looked at these too close but the eyes are stickers
fucking bandai doesn't have the mr potato tech

>>23380266
>short in universe span of time
War, this is one of those things that bandai picked and chooses.

>>23380264
Nobody has managed to design a good looking mecha in the current millennium
It is simply a lost art

>>23380266
>This make no sense in anyway how they could rapidly prototype and mass produce these machines to only replace them again every few years.
UC only has four major conflicts, the OYW, Grypps/NZ war, Cosmo Babylonia and Zanscare, over a period of 70 years. Most shows focus on a few months of the war, with most MS designing being done over the course of a year or two. It's certainly compressed, but it's also coming from someone who was coloured by WW2 heavily and lived through a period of utterly explosive technological growth.

>>23380266
Anon I genuinely think you just don't like robots, you just miss when Gundam looked like a guy in a toku suit fighting gas mask soldiers and insectoid aliens

>>23380272
>Cosmo Babylonia
Was it even major?

>>23380278
Yes, it was a major conflict that lasted for a couple of years until Cecily fractured the faction.

>>23380272
When I’m talking about how fast everything changes you can simply look at the short span of time between the original series and stardust memory. That was only 5 years. (In universe) but in that short amount of time a large amount of mobile suits were somehow not only created but replaced often times not once or twice but somehow more. It’s absurd. research and development takes time a even if you have infinite money and resources. by the time that chars counterattack happens and beyond that it gets so out of hand that it’s essentially my cutoff for what I even care about in the UC. Btw it isn’t even just the outright replacement of the mobile suits but also how everything has like 10 variants. I think this would have made more sense if they slowed down the rate of progress by about half. That’s just my opinion.


>>23380273
I like /m/ shit I just do not like overly complicated designs but occasionally I do. It’s funny you mention toku because kamen rider IMO is a huge example of this problem where everything from the last decade has looked ugly and garish to the point where I see it as a different franchise entirely. Many of the best looking designs came out before the 2010s arguably like 2008 or so. It seems like an overarching issue in entertainment where everything needs to be overly detailed in modern times like a razr gaming peripheral. If Batman was invented today he would probably have all sorts of greeble on every square inch of his body including his asshole.

>>23380281
>short span of time between the original series and stardust memory. That was only 5 years. (In universe) but in that short amount of time a large amount of mobile suits were somehow not only created but replaced
Almost all of the MS in Stardust Memory were in service in the OYW. They're just Katoki's designs established as later variants, just like 0080. I don't really get what you're saying. Yeah there are a lot of variants around the OYW but that's because the OYW has just been milked to death with variations that have to be new, but almost every single variation that exists is itself a derivative of either the Okawara GM, Izubuchi GM or Katoki GM, or Zaku etc respectively. These designs blend into other elements of the setting since those designers were the powerhouses of other shows/major entries of classic Gundam.

>>23380281
Greebles (true) were at their most powerful through the 70s and 80s however, especially in the modelling scene, largely thanks to Star Wars.

>>23379910
i made this post 4 hours ago and still havent started

>>23380281
>I like /m/ shit I just do not like overly complicated designs
Which is fair but your idea of "overly complicated" is absolutely ridiculous. Gundam has very few designs that could genuinely be considered "overly complicated".

>>23380295
Okay, but those are soulful greebles.

>>23380301
Definitely, and a Super Star Destroy is the world's most soulful greebled triangle (unironically I realize this sounds sarcastic but I sincerely love it), it's just about how it comes together as a whole package.

>>23380295
What mobile suit is that even supposed to be? Xamel? Nightingale? The O? I genuienly cannot tell, it looks kinda AI generated.

You expect me to believe there was only 65 years between man's first flight and man first stepping on the moon? Kinda ridiculous, don't you think? What about research and development. . .

>>23380307
It's a different form of The O.

>>23380022
>Fires all of its missiles
>Becomes utterly useless after.

>>23380313
yeah jets are a meme

>>23380313
There's a waist beam cannon and beam sabers stored somewhere

>>23380293
I maybe shouldn’t have brought up stardust memory because it’s distracting from my point. (I like stardust memory a lot and I think it’s designs are great) my point about stardust memory is by that point which is only 5 years, and it wasn’t 5 years of development time either since zeon basically a stopped making shit, they replaced essentially every zaku with a Rick dom or a gelgoog. They were becoming rare. But this wasn’t the fault of stardust. By the end of the OYW the zaku was already being replaced by the rickdom and the gelgoog was finished and deployed in the last month. This is absurd development pace. the federation did the same thing with the GM and it’s variants and that is even more insane because they were behind zeon because they didn’t even have a fucking mobile suit at the start of the war. My only point is that if they were going to phase everything out I think it would have been better to do it in a more gradual longer fashion so each designs sticks around longer and feels more substantial.


Hell stardust memory is a goood example of that with how many designs only appear in it like the GM powered and some other stuff I can’t remember because of plot reasons with the federation burying the work of what happened on that base in the OVA series.


war in the pocket makes the same mistake by introducing the kampfer and it being a 10/10 design but in universe they only manufacture 2 for some reason and I don’t think you even see the other one. Why 2? why make all this merchandise for that? It appeared for like 10 minutes. they couldn’t have made it 20 or so? It isn’t the sazabi.


Hell the high mobility zaku has this problem as well. in universe they only made like 50-60 of them. they are featured heavily in merchandise and toys but in the span of the timeline they are hardly relevant at all and hardly any of them even exist. It’s just dumb.

>>23380174
Dra Custom reprint when?

>>23380313
>fires off its single nuke (that damages its internal components in the process)
>

>>23380307
It's Kobayashi's own design of The O without concerns for toys and modelkits, he calls it Neo Geo.

>>23380212
New mecha designers have no love for the mecha thats why.

>>23380322
>Still manages to wreck the upgraded gp01 that was supposed to be superior to it with a beam saber.


I rewatched Stardust Memories and I cannot believe that this fatty managed to do a loop de loop kick.

>>23380308
>comparing landing one ship on the moon versus mass producing a NEW giant robot every year

They only needed to get it to work once and they never needed to mass produce and distribute the thing. And they also didn’t need to do the same thing all over again every other year. It’s an order of magnitudes different. It takes time to research and develop this stuff, and it takes time to repurpose factories and to change what they make, and it takes time to distribute shit. also it takes time to not only do research and development but to actually test out what you make so it’s reliable because despite what something is supposed to be on paper—in reality things often have problems. We can’t even mass produce and distribute fucking Xbox or a PlayStation or a switch or whatever stupid device without a serious percentage of them having issues due to poorly made components. And whoever gets to use the first one pays the early adopter price. Let alone a giant robot designed and manufactured in mass in less than one fucking year.

>>23380330
That's owed to Gato being a top tier ace.

You expect me to believe many dozens of new consumer cars are designed and released every year? Ridiculous.

>>23380270
Nah Nagano's GTMs are some of the best mecha designs ever made, they actually elevate mecha into a serious art form. Most of you are just consumers but anyone who has ever scratchbuilt anything or did any kind of sculpting can immediately recognize the level of raw talent it takes to make them.

>>23380360
I wish they looked better in action, GTM battles suck ass
Their movements are incredibly stiff and fights are just 90% sonic blade/gat blow shot spam

>>23380360
The problem is that they're more art than mecha

>>23380391
They are deliberately designed to subvert most of the design trends he himself started, but I don't consider them less mecha for that.

Have I finally finished my custom varguil? No, but I'll probably end up not using the fin funnels on it

I did color like a big baby with paint markers on my kurofune ez8's beam rifle
also made an attempt of a markers-only chipping effect, i feel like i'm close to making it work

>>23380391
It's only a problem for you, it makes me like them more than 99% of Gundam designs.

>>23380406
god i really need to get a new phone, this camera is fucked

>>23380406
It looks more like you damaged the plastic rather than painted it

>>23380411
yeah the effect on the handles didn't really work out, luckily i can just paint it over

>>23380403
>deliberately designed to subvert most of the design trends he himself started
Which is pretentious as fuck, those things became standards for a reason

are there any nip online stores where they sell kits by parts (by limb, torso, head, etc)

what's a generally regarded good acrylic primer for airbrushing? i can't manage a setup to handle lacquers atm so i'm going to start with acrylics

>>23379603
how expensive will this Kshatriya be? is there a preorder already?

>>23380470
It's polyurethane, but Badger Syntrelez is nice. Much better than Vallejo's primer IMO. A word of warning, it gets everywhere. I was cleaning my spraybooth up for a while after that. I'd just use a spraycan outside unless you really have to do everything indoors with an airbrush.

>>23380474
Preorders are already up and sold out

>>23380360
>GTMs are some of the best mecha designs ever made, they actually elevate mecha into a serious art form
lol

>>23379774
Ok, just snapshitted bootleg Nightingale. Honestly, it is pretty impressive. The recast quality is good, all parts fit in without issues. It is almost undergated, too, i don't know if the original kit is like that or the Changs removed all visible nubs.

>>23380487
Size compares to Gcucks Zaku.

>>23380487
isnt that the one that gives you rashes

>>23380495
The one in anon's image is a recent HG bootleg. The one that gave rashes was a "RG" that was basically a Sazabi wearing Nightingale armor.

>>23380487
>>23380489
Man I can't unsee the weird torso extension on the HG after that anon pointed it out

Finished my Chink F90 Fighter after 15 hours, despite some parts not fitting perfectly without sanding, absolutely loved this bootleg. Came with some waterslides too.

Bonus points for whoever gets the pose

>>23380484
Looks cool as fuck to me.

>>23380487
Jesus christ anon, wash your nails. Trim them too. Have you been digging through mud or something?

>>23380498
does that one still do that or was it just a first print thing

>>23380515
Last I heard, they recalled it and I don't think anyone's selling it anymore. Sure as hell I haven't seen any posts of anyone building it in the months after the first rash pictures came out.

>>23380519
They are still selling it over here, and i want it. I'll just wash it with soapy water as i did with the last Chink kit i built.

>>23380510
Okay it actually looks pretty good in art but Volks just fucked up the model

>>23380519
i just looked on ali and it seems like it might be getting another release in december. could be just a store placeholder thing idk. might just grab this bootleg though since it's that cheap

>>23380507
Yeah i can see why hardcore Nightingale fans hate the articulated waist. I personally don't mind it, the thing looks much more regal and imposing with this redesign.

>>23380507
What's the torso extension?

>>23380529
HG Nightingale is essentially a Sazabi but fat. It has a more humanoid proportion with long waist, unlike the classic design which has a stubby proportion.

>>23380542
Classic Nightingale in comparison.

>>23380542
>>23380543
Can't you just build it without the waist extension?

>>23380545
I like the long waist imo. But if you want to, i will make experiments on it later.

Is commissioning builds actually a common thing?

>>23380542
can this be modded out? i recall an anon posting something like that a few threads back now but i didn't really pay it much mind

>>23380545
I just check the kit again. Well to shorten the waist section, you will have to clean cut some plastic off. It is not an actual "waist extension", more like a full redesign.

>>23380578
Yeah it can. The problem is how to make it looks clean afterwards.

What is this? A Gundam for ants?

>>23380577
Kind of. If you're good yes people will pay for your to make stuff for them. One of the guys in my local fb groups actually makes like 2k a month just repainting HGs and MGs for people

Just finish snapping Grandpa 3.0 together. Am I supposed to need to basically rotate the handle on the bazooka to get it into a firing position? Count rotate the wrist enough otherwise while still having it use the peg.
Also no idea who signed off on not having a peg for the shield when it can carry the rifle in the shield. Trying to find a good bazooka/saber pose instead of using it.

>>23380484
Very interesting design, it has nice colors, some interesting shapes, and cool details. However…..


I still prefer the zaku

>>23380484
ugh the SOVL

>>23380578
Update on the waist mod. It is doable since the peg and the armor are 3 separate pieces ( thank god ). You will have to shorten the peg abit too so becareful while doing it.

assembly time

>>23380604
Yes. The straight position of the zook is for under arm poses, over the shoulder is for the diagonal positions.
>Also no idea who signed off on not having a peg for the shield when it can carry the rifle in the shield
Isn't the shield just lifted from the 2.0 or something? Anyway, the 3.0 hands were a mistake and I guess they just though the arm peg was enough.

>>23380318
>since zeon basically a stopped making shit, they replaced essentially every zaku with a Rick dom or a gelgoog.
We see many Zakus in 0083 and Zakus were produced until the end of the OYW.
>the federation did the same thing
Not really true in modern lore and the GM's deployment has been pushed way earlier now, too. All the GM variants, and the GM itself, are all basic derivatives of the Gundam to begin with. They're not entirely new machines.
>so each designs sticks around longer and feels more substantial.
How long should each design stick around? MSG happens, 8 years later Zeta happens, we've still got a lot of MS from MSG hanging around in Zeta and efficient upgrades for old machines like the GM II. ZZ gives us the GM III, another tacked on GM upgrade extending the humble OYW GM's surface life even further. Neo Zeon and the Titans had years offscreen to actually develop most of the MS we see them field.
>Powered GM
A machine explicitly called out as a test machine for new model thrusters? Why would they be everywhere?
>Kampfer
Why would there be a ton? Because you like the design? It's a late war super machine with the express role of being a suicide unit. There wouldn't be many. Why does the Sazabi get a pass for you as a one-off?
>High Mo Zaku
It's an MSV machine man. It got popular. It got featured in sidestories, and it got featured as the basis for Thunderbolt's super Zaku. How much more of the thing do you want to see, where else should it be? What does the number of produced units in-universe really have to do with anything? Why should there be 100 super Zakus when there's already another super Zaku and the Gelgoog? Does it make sense to exist in the face of 100 other Zaku variants produced during the OYW, even though you're saying Zaku F2s and GM Commands don't?

>>23380484
GTMs look cool as fuck as long as you tone down the zigzag arms
That's literally the only problem with them

>>23380712
The zigzag arms and weirdo knee joints are basically the only thing that makes them GTMs
That and bulimia

Despite all the random bullshit Nagano slaps on the GTMs they all look incredibly samey and somehow less varied than the most random fodder of his MortarHeadd designs

He's a perfect example of style self-flanderization (to be joined by Katoki in like 10 years or so)

>>23380759
MHs of the same era also tended to look samey desu
He was never that good at highly varied designs

>>23380759
You should know that the classic Katoki era when he was making things like Sentinel and so on, was the result of him studying Kobayashi's style. The two are close friends and Kobayashi gave him alot of job opportunities. In the modern era, from year 2000 forward, Katoki started to do his own thing with computer modeling, now has become his main workflow. Most of normies like the way he designs mecha now, which he has no reason to stop since it makes alot of money.

>>23380770
Katoki has shifted as a designer quite a lot between the 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s and 2020s. His darkest era by a landslide is the 2000s to mid 2010s. This is the era of every single machine he redesigned fitting into the same cookie cutter proportions. He's backed away from the incredible homogenization of the Unicorn era.

>>23380784
>He's backed away from the incredible homogenization of the Unicorn era.
Does he even have a consistent "style" anymore, he barely seems to work on any series and his kits' styling is just made to fit whatever the execs ask of him now (see Zeta Ver Ka)

>>23380792
Zeta ver.ka is very good and I'm sick of autistic people pretending it isnt.

>>23380792
Being adaptable is a style itself.

>>23380784
>His darkest era by a landslide is the 2000s to mid 2010s. This is the era of every single machine he redesigned fitting into the same cookie cutter proportions. He's backed away from the incredible homogenization of the Unicorn era.
Is this really his darkest era? Unicorn has made bandai some fat stacks

>>23380799
>uhh but money? lots of money = good?
If this is your metric sure, go fellate them all you want.

>>23380792
The recent ver kas (narrative, zeta, wing zero) still seem to have those classic katoki proportions of being lanklets with long legs

>>23380802
Wing Zero Custom was always the original supermodel design where Katoki first proved long leg robots sell well. It's right for it too. Zeta's legs aren't elongated and Narrative I'd have to check but I doubt it's dramatically off from the lineart honestly when you got the other two wrong.

>>23380809
Yeah I can tell you didn’t check. For any of them.

>>23380542
I dont know what people are chimping out on about the waist when the lineart shows that it has a waist.

>>23380073
But it looks incredible.

>>23380796
i would have a higher opinion of it if they didn't take away the mega launcher just so they can sell it as DLC later.

>>23380814
I own the models in question except Narrative so yeah, I did check, I just am not a blind dipshit.

>>23380828
I just took it from my 2.0

>>23380825
>old SHOOT ME HERE tumors good
>new SHOOT ME HERE tumors bad

>>23380831
Now compare it to the lineart

>>23380698
We still have countries today using tanks and helicopters and jets and shit from the 20 or more years ago. They don’t just stop being relevant after 5 years. even in a total war economy this would never happen. it doesn’t matter if the mobile suit is out of date it should still be floating around from time to time. even if it’s just them jobbing largely. any design introduced in the UC timeline should still be appearing commonly for a long time wether it’s 10 years or whatever. Hell there are countries today utilizing shit we made from like 40 years ago.

>>23380831
God Zeta is peak mecha.

>>23380816
>I dont know what people are chimping out on
The HG's waist is twice the length of the lineart's waist. It should look like a stubby heavy hitter, not an IBO reject.

>>23380839
>even in a total war economy this would never happen
I'm not reading all of the other poster's post but I presume you're arguing that advancements in tech doesn't happen as quickly as it happened in UC. May I just remind you of the the panzers which were being fielded by Germany in WW2.

>>23380847
But then how will they get that extra bit of articulation so you can play with it like it’s a toy

>>23380855
I just chopped that waist in half and it can still rotate that fine. Probably some goober at Bandai's modeling department just hate the way it looks in the line arts.

>>23380839
>it doesn’t matter if the mobile suit is out of date it should still be floating around from time to time. even if it’s just them jobbing largely.
You mean like what, Guncannons and GM IIs in Zeta Gundam?
Almost every OYW Zeon MS between Z and ZZ Gundam?
GM IIIs in CCA?
Jegans in F91?
Heavyguns in V?
UC is filled with what you're asking for and that's just the original entries.

>>23380857
The lineart variance here is less significant than the proportion change between scenes in zeta gundam.

>>23380850
There are diminishing returns in technology though a tank is also incredibly simple compared to the work that would go into a mobile suit. Enough shit tier ww2 tanks would still destroy the better ones even if it was a ratio of 5 to 1 or whatever and you could argue in terms of economical warfare that the cheaper tanks were just as viable to trade for 1 superior tank which is more expensive. my impression of the gundam UC timeline is that the early OYW weapons were essentially useless against later mobile suits with everything becoming about beam meta and superior fictional alloys and I just do not think they needed to elevate things as quickly as that because it’s not just implausible but sidelined much of the older designs people liked for no real reason other than to presumably sell new toys.

>>23380868
The lineart is still the original source of reference for the animators. They don't just imagine what the robot looks like then draw.

>>23380828
Don't forget taking away the sick launch bay base too. I like the kit but bandai can't help but go full jew these days. P bandai was a mistake.

>>23380872
>Enough shit tier ww2 tanks would still destroy the better ones even if it was a ratio of 5 to 1 or whatever
I mean no, that's not really how armour functions honestly. You would have to first cut out all the WW2 designs that basically can't pen modern armour in reasonable engagement ranges, which is a pretty decent chunk.

>>23380874
These are incredibly similar and both would be considered on model for what people actually saw in the show. You're splitting hairs because you have crippling autism.

>>23380828
There is no P-Bandai Hyper Mega Launcher though. Your only options for that are either to salvage it from the MG 2.0 (which I'm not even sure can attach to it) or buy a third-party one (which Bandai doesn't make any money off of).

>>23380878
>attach
It's held in the hands so in MS mode it's fine. I think it can attach in waverider but I don't know. I never even built the hyper mega launcher for my 2.0 so I haven't tried it with the ver Ka lol.

>>23380872
>tank is also incredibly simple
Not really no. Advancements in armor, advancements in metallurgy, advancements in the engine capable of pushing all the weight around, advancements in the rounds being fired. You are simplifying a lot of engineering accomplishments.
>Enough shit tier ww2 tanks would still destroy the better ones
Not quite, no. Gundam is a sci fi representation of WW2.

I’m sorry I just can’t get over the fact that some sperg spent half the thread raging about the new mobile suits having exposed weak points while glossing over the old ones like zssa that do the same thing

>>23380876
I’m not comparing a WW2 tank to something from the 21 century. I’m saying that in a span of 5 or 10 years it’s implausible to imagine a tank being 100 percent useless against something just because it’s a decade older. Maybe I am misinformed on this topic but even in a theoretical instance where a tank couldn’t penetrate an enemy tank that came out a decade later the concussive forces would eventually incapacitate the enemy crew I imagine regardless if it destroyed the tank. My only argument is that gundam should have older designs thrown in more amongst the newer ones because that is how the military functions even if it’s reserve units you still see them. or because it’s a total war scenario you give the older units to some squads to make get as many soldiers on the field as possible. Look at the ak47. It still works today. It’s a proven technology even if there are better more modern options. I imagine in a series like gundam the older units would be the same as this.

>>23380888
it's different when they're nonsensical power cables in 1979 because it just is

>>23380881
I’m not oversimplifying anything a tank especially a ww2 tank is very simple compared to something like a mobile suit. There isn’t a single microchip in a ww2 tank. no onboard computer systems that can fail due to hardware or software problems. It’s an order of magnitude more complicated. because the more complicated something is and the more moving parts it has the more likely it is to fail. This translates into more testing and more time in research and development and more time ironing out kinks and realizing that you need an entire new shipment of 5 million screws because the factory fucked up the alloy and it compromises the entire machine. And this can happen with any piece. I’m not saying that there isn’t complexity to tanks but I’m saying it’s an apples and oranges comparison again this is even further highlighted with your example of ww2 tanks.

>>23380889
>I’m saying that in a span of 5 or 10 years it’s implausible to imagine a tank being 100 percent useless against something just because it’s a decade older.
UC literally never does this, so that's kinda where you're just completely wrong. The GM>GM2>GM3 has an extremely long service life all told, 20 years in active duty in the animation. The Jegan serves about as long. The Heavygun serves even longer, 50 years. And reminder, this is just animation. Mangas and sidestories depict GMs and Jegans and Zakus even later. The F90 gets jumped by a bunch of fucking Zakus and LOSES in the UC110s, and originally, they weren't even any kind of updated Zaku, they were the fucking originals and their updated Zakus were back on Mars. Everything in the OYW is more or less capable of killing, in some manner, everything for years to come afterwards if not through the whole of UC, though with great effort for some of the armoured designs.

As an aside the Salamis Kai introduced in Zeta Gundam has served all the way to Victory Gundam as a common ship in the EFF fleet, itself being just an update of the Salamis which predates the OYW. It's a nearly 100 year old ship. Gundam does EXACTLY what you are saying it doesn't ALL THE TIME.

>modifying your models to remove "nonsensical" aspects
You aren't respecting the artist.

>>23380916
Disrespect your artists