GUNDAM WING is back! Wing Bros where are you??? Assemble!! The Best Gundam series pulling into the station!

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>>23403847 (OP)
Is it really that fucking hard to check the catalog before making another thread?

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Every single frame of this is pure fucking ART

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This touch screen UI feels out of place in Gundam Wing. The 1990s was full analog with no touch screens.

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>>23403847 (OP)
Holy shit bros it’s happening!!!! Feels so fucking good to be a wingchad.

>>23403847 (OP)
I'm honestly surprised that Sunrise never remade it or did a sequel. Wing is such a money maker. Crazy popular in the 1990s. Americans loved it. Bandai is so foolish.

>>23403847 (OP)
God, I miss the 90s aesthetic. It's interesting that the scene has both the old aesthetic and the new, more colorful one, and I like it less even though the animation was beautiful in both.

Now...the real problem is that TFdrop sucks and for the love of God they need to rewrite the whole thing.

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i made mp4s

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I hope sunrise has all of the enthusiasm next year for after war x

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>After war x
I'm sorry, who?

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I notice modern animators are lazy and love to do that holographic interface or touch screen.

Please bring back buttons and switches.

They are so much cooler.

>>23403847 (OP)
So is this a "Glory of Losers" Wing Manga remake?

Are we getting a new anime or not?

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Yeah i wish for Glory of Losers than Tearshit.

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>Oooops, i'm sorry Trowa, my bad. Are you alright?

>Seed movie
>00 sequel
>possible new Wing anime
>IBO spinoff movie
Man, a lot of love for the AU except G, X, AGE and G-Witch.

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G was getting an OVA

Code Geass also got two Wing Zero variants, Rebellion and Albion.

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Seriously?

>>23404233
X and AGE failed so they won't get anything.

>>23404242
G got a prequel story with Young Master Asia and X got a Sequel manga.

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There's something weird about the new animation. Yes it kinda looks like the 1990s but why are the outlines squiggly and wobbly? I guess "sketchy" is the right term?

Yes animators in the 90s couldn't always draw perfectly straight lines. That adds to the charm of the animation....but that doesn't mean EVERY outline they drew was slightly bent or dirty or sketchy looking. They drew some nice artwork back then too. See Pic related

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>Jacket covering famous green tank top.
Unacceptable. Why do they always retcon and change things.

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I'm surprised they didnt go with Just wild beat Communication

>>23404248
Nah, he's better with the jacket.

>>23404248
Relena was wetting herself too much

>>23404233
G-witch got a highschool AU because its fans don't care for the mecha unless its aerial yeah... as a Darillblade and Schwarzette guy it hurts.

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>Schwarzette
It still bugs me that Guel never got to pilot and customise it.

>>23404220
It's just a cute opening. No way they could make even OVA that looks this good anymore.

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The best we are getting are Garrod and Giffa plushies. Just accept anon.

>>23404249
for better or worse,the visual in this really looks like gbitch

>>23404254
No it's Japanese trying to change the past and trying to insert modern fashion. I hate that nonsense. Heero did the skydive with a green tank top, spandex shorts, and running shoes! He was a soldier that used whatever cheap and practical clothes he could steal. He did NOT wear skinny jeans, boots, and a fashionable jacket. Then smile at the camera. Heero isn't some K-pop star.

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No, just a net novel for G.

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That's unfortunate.

>>23404247
The animation in this trailer actually reminds me of Gundam Thunderbolt. Is it the same animators?

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>It's just a cute opening. No way they could make even OVA that looks this good anymore.
Nah. Bandai knows Wing is extremely popular. They've been keeping it in reserve like Square Enix kept Final Fantasy 7 in reserve until they needed money and make FF7 remake.

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Nah. It's bullshit. I went back and reread the Japanese comments (where is possible) around the time of G-witch Prologue, both on YouTube and on their channels, and they were all incredibly hyped about G.witch. The fact that it truly seemed like a new serious AU where the school setting was just the beginning of something bigger.

This whole thing about young Japanese people not wanting war is bullshit. If anything, they don't want overly tactical stuff like Gasaraki, but young heroes trying to save their friends during a war , were super OK with that.

If anything, they're the new generation of screenwriters who can't write war. And Okouchi himself isn't particularly comfortable with that theme. With Cide geass he was lucky or was helped by a good staff like Fukuda with Seed.

>>23404206
You'll get the same as G Gundam and you'll be grateful, you little shit

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AGE had a lot of manga and light novels and got his retelling OVA with new scenes back in the day. It's also popular for video games, with more mobile suits in the VS series than some others.
I'm not saying it didn't failed in Bandai's POV, but already did get it's good share of content in comparison to other AUs.

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>retelling OVA
I actually liked Memory of Eden.

Baby-making sex with Lady Une.

>>23404264
Dude... that Heero is EW after his character journey. Not episode 1 Heero with sadistic laugh

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>retelling OVA
IBO's is still lost media.

>>23404246
oh wow i didnt noticed this part

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Nonsense. It's the same shot.

>>23404296
It's not you fool. >>23404295 it's post Wing.

>>23404274
GWitch is popular because of the lesbian implications and the fans the show attracts are shoujo and Yuri fans. Of course they would be the ones commenting on GWitch videos. So you research misses the mark.

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Why would it be post wing when everything in the trailer is a Wing remake? It's the SAME shot.

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Eh? What the lesbians have to do with this? Do you even understand what I'm saying? At the time of the prologue, they didn't even know what genre it would be.
We still have the date of comments know the one genuine.

If you want to rage about Yuri, go to /a. That was not my point.

Think 00 would this much enthusiasm 3 years later in its anni?

Is Episode 0 is canon now

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you'd be lucky to get any non Exia kits, AUs don't exactly sell nowadays

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that last shot is suppose to seque way to the Frozen Teardrop scenes

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>AUs don't exactly sell nowadays
Because Bandai keeps abandoning them! They aren't willing to build them up anymore like they did with UC Gundam. They always wrap up the entire story in 1 or 2 seasons and leave no room for expansion.

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Wing and 00 sell fine. And even if Seed is popular but it's Kirakira kira- Freedom for the most.

>>23404233
Seed, 00, Wing, and IBO are all popular and massively successful. The rest of those were abject failures.

>>23404333
do you see anyone talk about any non-Wing AU? Even IBO and Gwitch died down in 2 years, there's quite literally no reason to shill any other AU than Wing.

>>23404323
maybe we'd get something other than Exia if you guys stop shitting on the S2 MS designs, I still remember the times when 00R is the shit, what happened?

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Not so sure about IBO

Good lighting and shading in an anime is a lost art. All of these frames have this depth to them that you just don't get anymore.

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I don't mind the S2 designs but everyone knows they're downgrades compared to the S1 suits.

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Modern anime still looks ugly as sin

>>23404361
Arios is fine, Seravee too, Cherudim is too green

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The S2 designs are still better than the movie suits by far. Yes I am still autistically ranting about pants-on-head Raphael all these years later.

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Arios is NOT better than Harute, 00Q aged fine

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>do you see anyone talk about any non-Wing AU
Yeah all the time, literally a month ago people went crazy over GQ and it brought in a bunch of new fans to the franchise

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>Even IBO and Gwitch died down in 2 years, there's quite literally no reason to shill any other AU than Wing.
Wing was mostly dead for years after Frozen Teardrop flopped hard and the GotL manga ended its only getting buzz now for the 30th anniversary same with G last year getting a photo novel sequel and a new God Gundam.

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The ms designs popular and the first season did well. The second season on the other hand is what made the series into a joke that nips meme on hard

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>GQ
UC

>>23404367
I don't necessarily have a problem with Arios as a design so much as I do the way it was treated. I honestly don't remember it doing much even after the GN Archer was made aside from being a GN particle battery for the Ptolemy.

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Its not. Its an AU

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GQ is an AU retard.

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>Wing
Yes

>and 00 sell fine
Only Exia and maybe 00 Raiser sell really well. No one loves Kyrios or Arios.

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>do you see anyone talk about any non-Wing AU?
*cough* Seed *cough*

You thought you had something there didn't you?

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I guess TB is also an AU now huh?

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00 is massively popular on a lot of secondary units as well. The only reason they have trouble making Arios, Kyrios, or Virtue is because they're so damn complicated to make.

Also reminder that the GN-X is one of most popular grunt ever and got its Master Grade in record time due to the high demand.

00 is fine. It may not be Seed, but it is by far one of the most popular.

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>Also reminder that the GN-X is one of most popular grunt ever and got its Master Grade in record time due to the high demand.
I think you're high, GNX is like the least popular grunt, it's as popular as daughtress

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Yeah basically

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Regardless of whether you love or hate 00, he really put out some great stuff.

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TB has always been an AU dumbass
>>23404391
Winfags are like DBZfags except more out of touch and a pathetic, how the fuck can you even say stupid shit like that and be ignorant of the massive growth spurt the franchise has gotten in recent years?

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>The S2 designs are still better than the movie suits by far. Yes I am still autistically ranting about pants-on-head Raphael all these years later.


00 Raiser = 00 Quanta

Seravee > Raphael, but only by a little bit. The powerful giant hands were cool.

Arios <<<<< Harute

Chedudim <<<<<< Zabanya

Regnant = Gadelaza (nothing but a jobber)


A-head <<<<<<<<<< GN-XIV


Mr Bushido's custom Masuro <<<<<< GN Brave Commander
Movie wins.

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>Mr Bushido's custom Masuro <<<<<< GN Brave Commander
debatable, you don't like super robots?

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>Winfags are like DBZfags except more out of touch and a pathetic, how the fuck can you even say stupid shit like that and be ignorant of the massive growth spurt the franchise has gotten in recent years?
Gundam was more popular with American kids in the 1990s compared to today. Wing is responsible for that. And when they brought back Dragonball with Super, it was one of the most popular animes of all time. You had entire stadiums in Mexico being rented out to stream Dragonball episodes. Entire town were projecting the Super episodes with projectors in the town square.

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B-but i like Zabanya

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not him but fucking read bro

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now THIS is sakuga, unlike those naruto fight scenes i always see emulated by amateurs.

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>Gundam was more popular with American kids in the 1990s compared to today

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GN Braves were cooler and did more. Mr Bushido was a lame character and only existed to lose every fight.

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>you
>in charge of any artistic storytelling

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Are you stupid? The ratings for Gundam Wing were crazy. Millions were watching it in the 90s. IBO, Age, etc can only DREAM about hitting those same viewership TV numbers. When thoae AUs hit American TV, it was a joke in comparison and you know it.

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Not sure if ironic, but it really is a fucking good shot.

I'm pretty sure Gwitch is the most popular Gundam on west right now for all the wrong reason.

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Dude. Gundam Wing on Toonami had higher TV ratings than MTV.

And this was back when MTV was in its prime.

You are just too young to remember or weren't even born yet. You don't understand at all.

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>Gundam was more popular with American kids in the 1990s compared to today
No it fucking wasn't. The franchise underperformed during Bandai USA tenure that they basically closed shop after a decade and despite Wing's success it didn't do nearly well enough to convince Bandai to keep going. Series like GBF, IBO and G-Witch have all performed way better than Wing did during its peak.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN

Amazing how they manage to recapture how full frontal gay wing was

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No that's GQ

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I'm just not really a fan of the movie Gundams because of the massive clunky extra shit bolted to them. I know they were designed solely for space use but guess where a kit or figure of them won't be? Harute isn't a bad design overall but the fact that those boosters are overall bigger than the suit they're attached to makes it look a little ridiculous. Zabanya's main body is fine but it has two picket fences hanging off its hips.

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Even if what you say was true TV ratings dont mean anything anymore

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You are stupid. The American TV ratings for Gundam Wing far exceed the TV ratings for any modern Gubdam aired in America. This isn't even debatable. It's an objective truth with hard numbers you can look up.

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i'm just really sick of the overdynamic animation twittards regard as "peak animation". the scenes in this trailer are just the right balance of dynamic and technically impressive for me.

How big is Wing in Japan

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I believe the Director of 00 movie said that these Gundams aren't next generation suits. They are the same frame, but designed to fight a war where Celestial Being is out numbered and underfunded. So the frames need to be maxed out.

A good analogy is:

00 Season 2 Gundams = elite team of "special forces" like Navy Seals or Army rangers. Hard hitting but very small in number.

00 Movie Gundams = Walking armories. Designed to fight against entire grunt armies. Quantity over quality.

Hope that helps you mentally understand the design.

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Define gay please.

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Qant was probably the only real upgrade and even so it was a unit for comunication (that can still remove the aliens by itself if peace was not an option)

>>23404512
The anniversary pv literally ends with them smirking about how they are going to rail each other's puffy gay assholes. You sensitive faggot.

>>23404295
Fuck they really pushing FT as canon? I hate that so much.

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They are Brothers in arms you massive basemant lone fag.

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Are you stupid or just trolling? Gundam Wing was massive and kicked open the door for Gundam in the USA. It was a golden opportunity for Bandai.

Bandai USA even told Bandai Japan that they should team up with Americans to make anime that caters to Western tastes. That's how we got Big O Season 2. Which was also huge hit. Americans funded it, and Bandai Japan animated it.

But what did Bandai Japan do afterwards? They said, "Nah. Let's push UC Gundam. It's cheaper than animating new shows. If Americans love Wing then they will love UC! Let's push a 30 year old show with old animation. Americans won't know the difference! We can resell the same old Gunpla! "

We even have interviews of former Bandai USA staff talking about how they kept telling Bandai Japan that Americans love Gundam Wing *specifically* and we need to make more Gundam shows and anime like it. But Bandai Japan refused to listen and ordered them to push UC Gundam and try to make Americans love Amuro and Char like Japan does.

It's same freaking story with Japanese companies. They get lucky and become unexpectedly popular in the West. Then the Japanese companies get cocky and think they don't have to listen to what the West wants, and then they crash and burn. It's happened so many times in so many different industries. Bandai (anime) , Sega (video games), Mitsubishi, Nissan (cars), a bunch of Japanese computer brands (like Hitachi), etc etc etc.

Japanese never change.

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Does it matter? People here over hate it when nobody has read it, outside of a few retards.

>>23404517
Wasn't it said 00 Quanta can't slice through an entire moon at full power, and Veda predicted Quanta could eliminate the alien ELS if communications failed?

>>23404521
>duo ended up some no good deadbeat drunk gambler for no good reason
The only part I hate with a passion.

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>Brothers in arms
Although I don't buy the fujo gay angle, these 5 rarely gave a shit about each other outside of a few rare moments.

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I try read that abit if that. From the Katrina prequel and the later Mars part is was kinda an offensive mess.

so what's the over/under on this leading to a new anime as opposed to a gachashit or some new 800$ PG/U kit? On the one hand I feel like the way they're describing this matches their usual gundaminfo empty hype-baiting wherein they strongly imply something without making any promises, but on the other hand this is actually high-quality animation that could legitimately pass as a new anime clip for UC engage's inevitable AU crossover event.

They did this a few years ago when they announced a new 00 "OVA" but then it was just extremely bad CGI-animated (and i do mean bad by the standards of CGI, not just bad because it's CGI) youtube-shorts to sell some new metal-robots-spirits-tamashi-soul-of-whatever bullshit that didn't even look that impressive compared to what already existed. I don't think I've ever seen them sequel-bait this hard without having something behind it. Except for maybe Urdr-Hunt but hopefully they learned their lesson about pooling all their animation resources into gachashit vaporware.

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Moon Gundam got included in that video that showed Amuro's spirit alongside Lalah's watching Turn-A destroying UC and then showing off all AUs and upcoming UC animated features... and then it just got nothing else animation-wise.

>>23404545
You know Bandai. They never clarify on what it is upfront. Gundam Wing is a little special since they know it's popular worldwide. I bet Bandai is testing the waters to see what kind of response they get. If it's a massively overwhelming response, then Bandai might go for it.

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They respected eachother a lot. They just didn't try to interfere eachothers personal life. Well...except Duo and Heero.

>>23403909
If sunrise is capable of making 2D anime look this good then how come all we get is CGI slop these days?

>>23404524
Dude, Bandai prefers to change universes so that new authors can have more freedom.

The UC exists only because Tomino was in charge of that universe for many years, and the UC was his thing. Starting to make a big AU like the UC means taking a group of people and giving Gundam to them for many, too many years, since new authors might feel too limited if they have to make a sequel to something that isn't their universe.

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Production costs, and there are fewer skilled animators than 1995, which has significantly increased production times.
The ideal is to make OVAs where they can take their time, but TV shows going beyond 12 episodes is too demanding these days.

>>23404562
Are you genuinely stupid?

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I thought computers and digital technology was supposed to speed things and make anime production faster?

They don't need to worry about making production cels, or developing film anymore.

But studios have gotten much slower even with digital tech. It's so backwards.

>>23404249
This looks good.

>>23404563
>The UC exists only because Tomino was in charge of that universe for many years, and the UC was his thing.
This is literally the opposite of the truth. Tomino has said he was forced by Sunrise to keep making UC Gundam and it eventually made him depressed.

If this is made into an anime, what are the odds the staff will change the story and make Treize fight Zechs??? I am genuinely curious if Tallgeese 2 can beat Epyon.

The databooks said Treize is so supposed to be a perfect pilot and perfect solder.

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He was still in charge. They want the original author for UC instead of calling for a new guy. You misunderstood

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UC exists because prior to G they didn't realize they could just slap the gundam name on a completely different show with similar aesthetics. Tomino was depressed because he had to keep making Gundam, not because he had to keep making UC. It's pretty obvious that in his mind UC is the only Gundam that actually matters since both of his return projects have taken place in "AUs" that are explicitly stated to be future eras of the same universe as UC.

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Your sight,
My delight

>>23404517
The 00 Qan[T], Harute, and Zabanya were built on the 00 Raiser, Arios, and Cherudim frames. Tieria built the Raphael himself from scratch and was forced to use a Tau drive, which is why it doesn't have a GN model number.

>>23404603
Tomino wanted to end UC Gundam with Char's Counterattack. But they kept forcing him to make more.

>return projects
They asked Tomino to make an anniversary UC Gundam. Tomino said no. He would only come back if he could make a different Gubdam. And that's how we got Turn A Gundam.

>>23404575
Ah, so you think like a suit. But in the reality turns out that one skill (animation cells) doesn't translate to the other (digital) and you need to retrain all your workforce from 0 but you already slashed half of them and on top of that give them the double of the work.

>>23404612
qant is scratch built too, Raiser was vlred by ELS

>>23404498
>The American TV ratings for Gundam Wing far exceed the TV ratings for any modern Gubdam aired in America.
That's nice but it means nothing because TV ratings doesn't factor into anything anymore

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>That's how we got Big O Season 2. Which was also huge hit
No it wasn't it flopped hard in fact any time there was a huge push towards catering to western tastes it wound up being a disaster (IGPX).

>But what did Bandai Japan do afterwards? They said, "Nah. Let's push UC Gundam
Yeah because UC was the breadwinner for the franchise not fucking Wing, it'll be stupid to think more of the same would be the right thing especially with the nature of trends go.

>Let's push a 30 year old show with old animation

Shows like Voltron and Robotech were over a decade old yet they were huge successes on Toonami for fucksake DBZ was nearing 20 years by the time it aired on Toonami and yeah...0079 was only a little over 20 years old when it aired on Toonami and it looked no worse than other shows airing (I think that's also when the original DB from 1983 was airing) so the assumption that 0079 didn't do well because it was "too old" is retarded.

>>23404625
Quanta is the only real upgrade, and is shown at the beginning of the film while they're working on it. The others are the ones that were made in hurry.

>>23404488
No dude the oversized boosters are fucking sick. This + the 4 eye marute mode is beautiful

>>23404626
>Big O Season 2
>it flopped hard
Why are you making nonsense up? It was a hit on Toonami TV ratings, and on DVD sales in America. The Director of Big O even gave an interview where he said something like, "I don't know why Japan rejects Big O, but Americans love it. I am very surprised by this, but also grateful."

>>23404626
>Yeah because UC was the breadwinner for the franchise
NOT. FOR. AMERICA. Why can't you understand this you weaboo Otaku??? Back then in America, Wing was KING!

Absolutely fucking retarded move to still keep the clocked designs hidden. I trough with the TCG Bandai was gonna do the same they are doing with Digimon(making more shit to put in the cards)

>>23404646
>It was a hit on Toonami TV ratings,
Big O Season 2 didn't air on Toonami retard it aired on adult swim and its premiere did so badly that it was swiftly moved to a later time slot

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>NOT. FOR. AMERICA
Yeah back in 2000 not now.
>Back then in America, Wing was KING!
King of what? It nothing for the franchise because Bandai USA ultimately closed shop and if they gave a shit about Wingfags they would have licensed Glory of the Losers and Frozen Teardrop

>>23404646
But not for japan and Bandai didn't feel very comfortable with this. The always thinks only in terms of domestic market and way less about the rest.

>>23404649

I'm actually surprised Netflix or Amazon hasn't offered to help produce Wing projects given how popular it is.

You're 100% right. I'm 42 years old and Wing on Toonami was my first Gundam. Watched it after school and at night uncut. Once the UC stuff started airing many were disappointed as they wanted more Wing.

>>23404658
Katoki can't bring himself to draw them. As soon as they have a design the clocks will be retconned aways.

>>23404659
>King of what? It nothing for the franchise because Bandai USA ultimately closed shop and if they gave a shit about Wingfags they would have licensed Glory of the Losers and Frozen Teardrop

That's not how corporations work. Bandai Japan has ultimate final say. They are the headquarters. Bandai USA is just a branch office. Bandai Japan can order Bandai USA and they must obey despite any protests. Former Bandai USA staff said they tried to get headquarters to listen many times, but Japan firmly refused and didn't want hear it.

>>23404626
>That's nice but it means nothing because TV ratings doesn't factor into anything anymore
You have it backwards. Ratings are significantly more important today, but it's incredibly difficult to get high ratings now like the old days. The audience is fragmented. There's too many options for entertainment and too many streaming platforms.

>>23404676
Then that means Wing wasn't much of a success to justify Bandai Japan's decision to produce more content in the US. Mind you Bandai Japan folded to release Unicorn on DVD because it was a big hit on Blu-ray for US release before closing shop but didn't want to release the Wing manga and novel to the states

>>23404685
>Ratings are significantly more important today,
No they're not hence why there's next to nothing on TV today and why every commercial advert specifically mentions where it'll be streaming the following day, it's why there's been a steep decline in viewership for over a decade now. All of this is relative because G-Witch never aired on TV.

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>All these fucking comments not knowing who Wufei's girlfriend is or the FT references

Always hilarious how permastuck in the 90s Wingfags are. Almost like they got nothing from the show they glaze over

>>23403847 (OP)
Any single shot of this thing was Cinema. My god , it was so beautiful.

>>23403847 (OP)
KINO

>>23404692
>specifically mentions where it'll be streaming the following day,
Your information is out of date. 90% of all streaming services are losing huge amounts of money. The streaming boom is over. Many companies are shutting down their streaming services, merging them with competitors to save money, or selling them off entirely.

The only streaming services making any profit are Netflix and Apple.

>>23404698
I actually completely forgot that Wufei had a wife. Funny because i remember Duo and Trowa story pretty well, but i only remember Wufei for the memes.

>>23404698
to be fair people only know wing from WZC and the Heero kill you meme, I don't think people even know what happened from ep 11-50

>>23404709
>I actually completely forgot that Wufei had a wife

I mean its the name of his Gundam

>>23404707
Prime is still going strong.

>>23404247
It's a filter they run through the lineart process. That's why it looks consistently squiggly. I'm not sure what they do with the coloring process but some manual input would be appreciated to mimic the look.

>>23404667
>I'm actually surprised Netflix or Amazon hasn't offered to help produce Wing projects given how popular it is.

1. Japan has been pretty resistant to streaming services. They still make A LOT of money on Bluray sales.

2. Japan likes to keep the good stuff and biggest money makers for themselves. They will throw crap like "Requiem for a Vengeance" on Netflix just to test the waters, and see if working with Netflix is worth it. But considering the poor reception to Requiem, they may not want to work with Netflix for their more mainstream popular Gundams.

>>23404709
Fuwei's wife died before main story, that's her grave, and why he calls Shenlong Nataku to remember her strength and namesake.

>>23404707
>The streaming boom is over
>steaming still exists and many companies would rather put new shows on streaming series versus TV
The South Park guys literally sign a 1.5 billion dollar deal to air the next five seasons on Paramount +. TV is dead.

>>23403847 (OP)
I'm so glad to see that they're able to animate like this still. Might not always be economically-feasible, but they haven't lost that knowledge.

Why episode Zero wasn't in the anime anyways? It have crucial information of the characters, their backgrounds and their motives.

>>23404731
It's just a filter...they've been doing it for years now

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zFD6TujMsj4&pp=ygUUYXVyYSBiYXR0bGVyIGR1bmJpbmU%3D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XQzVK7LeDhI&pp=ygUSdWMgZW5nYWdlIGN1dHNjZW5l

It's just digital post processing shit

>>23404727
Paramount is in huge financial trouble. That's why they are in deep debt, and want to merge with Sky Dance studios.

>>23404725
>1. Japan has been pretty resistant to streaming services
Anime now has various deals with Netflix and Amazon prime in fact GQ had an exclusive Amazon deal and Hathaway aired exclusively on Netflix Japan

>>23404614
no, he wanted to end gundam. He used have other shows before Zeta took off. Now he's "the gundam guy".

>He would only come back if he could make a different Gubdam
i guarantee you he did not demand to make a different gundam. he demanded to make a different show and making another AU gundam was the compromise.

>>23404732
Iirc they couldn't find a way to fit it during the shows run. Originally the plan was to have it air as a OVA right after episode 30 or when the episode when they all leave earth for the first time. But they dropped it because they didn't have the time to make it so they went the manga route.

>>23404725
>Japan has been pretty resistant to streaming services.
It's not 2016 anymore.

>>23404731
>animators can still animate
Woah

>>23404737
NTA but i think he cares more about the end result than the process they took to get there. Even if its not as good as Wing its still better than anything since.

>>23404766
That's because Sony (a Japanese company) bought the American companies of Crunchyroll AND Funimation and control all their dubs. So the Japanese now have near total control of all anime in America.

>>23403847 (OP)
I've rewatched this like 30 times now. I'm sure I'll break 100 rewatches by the end of the week. It's so beautiful

>>23404737
It doesn't matter if it's "just a filter." It's a filter that is an additional necessary step towards making animation look good and one that is required in making an animator's understanding of the field to make good art. In other words, it's good because it's good. Animation should be going up not down, so anything that shows an upward inertia is great. This entire video was phenomenal from an art perspective, and extremely well shot and choreographed as well to capture the feel of Wing. They did a great job

Prove you're a real Wing fan

So what the fuck is the deal with all the Wing side content? Frozen Teardrop is a sequel? Then what the fuck is Glory Of The Losers? I thought it was a reimagining AND a sequel.

>>23404720

>>23403927
>>23403909
>>23404172
>>23404204
>>23404230
I would gladly trade away Gquuux, GWitch, and Hathaway to make this Wing anime a reality. I hate CGI mecha slop and love Wing's 2D animation style in this trailer.

>>23404791
>and extremely well shot and choreographed as well to capture the feel of Wing

This, It's not only well animated, it's a small masterpiece of direction and style. The scene of Heero with Wing Gundam from behind, for example, is truly excellent in terms of color and atmosphere.

>>23404796
Frozen Teardrop takes place thirty years after Wing. Glory of the Losers is a retelling with some immediate sequel stuff.

>>23404811
Simple enough then, thanks.

>>23404791
The filter is messing up the animation. It's going overboard with the blur and squiggly lines.

>>23404575
>I thought computers and digital technology was supposed to speed things and make anime production faster?
>They don't need to worry about making production cels, or developing film anymore.
each frame still has to be drawn by hand, thats still a time consuming process even if you do it on a drawing tablet

>>23404791
This is such a brainlet take

>>23404791
>It's a filter that is an additional necessary step towards making animation look good and one that is required in making an animator's understanding of the field to make good art.

From an artistic perspective it looks terrible because its clearly an imitation of something using modern technology and unless you're blind you can clearly see that it slips quite heavily into modern artstyles with heavy use of CG and post processing. It honestly looks like something Otaking made years ago back then when the only way people thought to imitate classic anime was to add a ridiculous number of shade and layers its like how filmmakers think adding a VCR effect filter will make something look retro

>>23404791
>I like it therefore it's art

>>23404820
So why have we gone from making 50 episode season animes in a year. To barely being able to make 12 episode seasons?

>>23404794
w... Why do you have so many Leo, anon?

>>23404791
>>23404807
Imagine going this crazy for a shitty ai filter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn1GRZnzbHQ

>>23404794
This man is a true wing fan.

>>23404902
Why don't you?

>>23404687
>but didn't want to release the Wing manga and novel to the states
The manga got released. I own it. The novel was never released though.

>>23404687
They didn't release Frozen Teardrop because it was awful. Its negative reputation precedes it.

>>23404873
Holy s.. are we already in the "must hate things " from 4chan?

>>23404936
>The manga got released
Not through Bandai USA which was the point the anon was trying to make and it only got released via a survey from the publisher not because there was financial gain.

Why did they use Wing Zero EWC instead of Wing Zero TV?

>>23404943

>>23404901
post war baby boom meant japan in 1980 was much more younger than japan in 2025

animators also get paid sub-subsistence wages and anyone artistically inclined can make as much if not more by doing skeb or fanbox for like, 1/4 the work

>Wow I sure miss how anime used to look!
>*Sunrise use techniques to make new anime look old*
>Noooo! You just can't make it look old on purpose!

>>23404233
Nigga G-witch is brand new, it took 7 years and counting for IBO to get something new
And over a decade for SEED

>>23404980
>Basically ass a.i. filters
>WOW THIS LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE MY OLD ANIMES

>>23404980
its a tier above slapping le epic VHS filters over a 4k HDR video, nostalgiafaggotry skinsuiting the past because they cant make anything forward looking

>>23404951
Because the wing zero custom is objectively superior

>>23404949
>it only got released via a survey from the publisher
It doesn't matter how it got released, what matters is that it happened. If they didn't want to release it but fans asked for it and bought it enough for it to finish, then the company was wrong.

>>23405000
The sad thing is its not even good filtering because it frequently slips into current day animation giving the opposite effect of something trying to imitate something old. G-Reco actually did it right but it was made by someone with 50 years of experience.

>>23405010
>It doesn't matter how it got released, what matters is that it happened.
I accept your concession

>>23405019
I wasn't even the one originally arguing. They released it. You lose.

>>23405010
>Bandai USA didn't think GotL was worth releasing in the West so they didn't bother
>Years later Yen Press makes a random survey of a few hundred applicants asking which manga to release amongst very niche offerings and Gotl barely wins
>Ha! Take that Bandai

Mind you this only happened due to the success of Gundam The Origin.

>>23405024
>They released it.
No they didn't which was the point of the argument the original publisher didn't bother with releasing and it only got released years later by a different publisher via a survey not because there was a huge market demand for Wing nostalgia

>>23405032
>survey
So it won a survey meaning people wanted it meaning Bandai was wrong.

>>23405043
Yes anon slightly more people wanted Glory of the Losers than My Little Sister Can't be This Cute

>>23405016
The Wing video looks way better than this

>>23404901
>barely being able to make 12 episode seasons
Source? 12 episode seasons is standard.

>>23405054
Lmao

>>23405079
Nothing about Shit Reco looks cel animated. It has a filter so some of the lines look like the shitty paint job in Tomino's low quality 80s slop but this was never good looking or the norm.

>>23405090
Lmao

>>23404743
Paramount+ isn't dead as long as there are still retards on reddit who think they have to pretend Star Trek Discovery isn't terrible in order to prove they aren't racist, sexist, transphobic, and anti-LGBTQIA2SOMGWTFBBQ+.

>>23405090
trvke

>>23405090
>Nothing about Shit Reco looks cel animated
G-Reco uses scratchy line filters like with good colours. The Wing PV just looks like an a.i. prompt not understanding the feel or look of cel animation just how it looks like to mouthbreathers with sub IQs like you.

>>23405106
>scratchy line
This looked like ass in 80slop and was a sign of poor quality. Good shows never looked like this. Just Tomino ugly slop

>>23405106
The Wing PV looks like a kino OP from the 90s.
G-Reco looks like nu anime slop with a filter to make it look shittier.

>>23405117
>>23405134
t. Mouthbreathers

>>23405117
>>23405134
Why are zoomies lobbying for an anine made 20 years before they were born?

>>23404856
I am now demoralized

>>23405000
>people want the good old animation and details
>Bandai tries it's best to finally give us that
>ERM AHKTUALLY we want forward thinking animation
I think you should kys

>>23405141
Look at this old retard who doesn't know how time works lmao

>>23405161
>>23405166
Relax zoomie.

Common Wingchad W

>>23404794
this guy fucks

You fags are nostalgic over a completely different era of anime. By 1992 the scratchy pencil lines have completely disappeared once upper level animation techniques (previously restricted to feature films and short OVAs) started to trickle down as the technology became easier to use, less expensive, and more widely available.

IDK how much human skill or effort it went into making that 90s filter, all i know is that it works and the product is much better for it because its accurate to the period and show.

>>23405195
This looks nothing like something from the 90s because most 90s anime looked like garbage

>>23404794
https://imgbox.com/Aw8YuiR3
AAAAAIIIEEEEEE

>>23405203
Well here we have it, not the target audience. Go figure. Its okay to admit it.

>>23405203
...until Kinogelion raised the standards of the industry

>>23405218
The TV show isn't always aesthetically pleasing, but the OVA/Movie was amazing. And it still is today.

Please let this be something good, Wing is literally what got me into mecha

>>23405221
>until Kinogelion raised the standards of the industry
Y-yeah...raised...

>>23405228
>Wing is literally what got me into mecha
Wow thats sad

>>23405235
I'm sorry majingaCHAD but some of us aren't 80 years old

>>23405228
It looks high effort but the source material, from what little we have preserved on the internet, is hot garbage. Fanfiction-tier writing, nanomachines son, and "it wasn't me, it was my evil clone brother/father who had amnesia and we all thought died".

>>23405235
>getting into mecha via an extremely popular and well loved series is bad
Nigger

>>23405252
>getting into mecha via an extremely shitty and loved exclusively by boomers is sad

Yes very

>>23405252
Popular, yes if we're talking North America back in the 1990s-2000.

Well loved? maybe for how ambiguously gay it was.

>>23405265
nothing wrong with gay

Again, I'm not sure what you are referring to.
There are actual boomers who grew up with OG when drinking tap water in your house was not a thing in Japan. Then there are "boomers" meaning older gen-z (90s-00s). These are 2 different audiences.

>>23404400
Always was. It's AU UC.

>>23405272
Anon these are just hatemonger trolls. They are just here for (you)s and are either to stupid or simply don't care about getting their dates right on generations. If Bandai looked on this thread and saw their hats and decided to call off doing an anime with the animation we just got in the 30th anniversary video they would proclaim total victory in their black hole of a life because we live in a cynical age on the internet

>>23405252
>an extremely popular and well loved series
Doubt.

Anyone else here used to post on Gundam Forum on gundam.com? I think Pick was the admin, then there were mods like Aloner, Treize, Lightning Count, locutus123. Was a good time for early Toonami gundam fans.

>>23404249
>FT flashback
>Young doctor J is literally more ikemen than every single male from SEED
They have a fujo gold mine but these fools just hate money.

>>23404607
Whoever wrote that knows how to write flawlessly an autist like Heero.

>>23405316
That's Odin Lowe.

>>23405327
I meant how every single male from FT is literally handsome, like how the original Heero Yuy was literally retconned into looking like the pilot.

>>23405327
i wonder if he's related to the Burnetts of the G Unit sidestory.

>>23405336
I honestly thought that was just because the artist had no direction on what characters look like but Phobos still looks like Trowa so I guess it's what they wanted.

so are they gonna NTR Heero just like they did Kira?

Wing is the reason Gundam is popular. Cope more.

>>23405376
This will never be true

>>23405379

For English speaking audiences it absolutely is true. Wing came to the US at exactly the right time on Toonami.

>>23405305
Those weren't the mods...

>>23405241
It was god awful fanfiction level because it was some batship yaoi shipper on LiveJournal posting about it... Actually reading the story is way different. It's pretty good, actually. More coherent than Wing at least.

>>23404581
>>23404363
The duality of man

>>23405478
Shipping is the least of its sins. It starts with Treize's whole life, including his insane mother molesting him, getting beamed into Heero's head in a cryopod. It's batshit and somehow manages to be boring and dryly written while being completely unhinged.

>>23403847 (OP)
Watching through Wing right now. What timing

>>23404794

https://youtu.be/UT8gou_Gj2E?si=9Ip2MSI8PHsSd6Bj

>>23405265

The ambiguously gay Duo

>>23405528
I laughed.

>>23405513
Clearly you haven't read shit from the novel. Treize wasn't fucking beamed into his head.

>>23405513
Treize's mom had a mental breakdown after she was kidnapped, watched his dad get shot up, was forced to marry another man, have his kid and then find see the footage of Heero Yuy get assassinated with news her first husband was blown up at the same time. Her second husband basically avoided her as she declined and she was shoved in an institute for the rest of her life to protect the family's image.

>>23405513
>Reads fan-translation by someone on LiveJournal who wasn't perfectly fluent in Japanese
>English is dry and boring because the translator spent more time complaining about shipping than editing their work
>Assumes the Japanese version is poorly written

You read a bad translation by a fujo with mediocre Japanese comprehension and mediocre English writing skills. You didn't read Frozen Teardrop in any legitimate sense.

Literally every English speaker who complains about FT has, at best, read that LJ. Most are just parroting someone's reaction to that LJ and hyping up the goofy shit in the story to get a reaction.

>>23405663
It's not like any other translations exist. Zeonic was fighting the bitch decades ago and he abandoned it like he does every fucking thing his AIDS hands touch

>>23405528
>The ambiguously gay Duo
https://youtu.be/7m9-UCuOfSE

>>23405522
Actual kino.
>guys, girls and little kids can do it
>racially diverse way before the woke era
>emphasizing effort
>gritty 90's aesthetic
>cute asian goth girl
Ahead of its time. If this doesn't make you wanna build a Gundam model kit, you have no soul anymore. The only sin in this video is that Epyon, but of course it was built by a woman.

>>23405076
It wasn't in the 70s, 80s and 90s.

>>23405336
Which one of the doctors was a trap?

>>23405765
The one with the fake nose.

UC
Wing
Seed
00
NOTHING. ELSE. MATTERS.

>>23404233
>Cross Rays gang is back
ENTER
>Heero gets a super Gundam
>Kira gets a super Gundam
>Setsuna gets a super Gundam
>Mikazuki gets...
MURDER MANLET WILL RETURN

Frozen Teardrop is what happens when the kino levels go too far

>>23405365
No, Heero ends up with Relena at the end of FT.

>>23405663
I've never been on Livejournal.
>>23405654
Cool, she still molested her favorite son and neglected her nonfavorite other son and neither plot point was necessary or helped the narrative in any way.
>>23405611
What exactly was wrong with what I said? That's what happens, a massive infodump of backstory and Treize's past gets VR goggled into Heero and Kathy's minds.

Why does Wu Fei have breasts now?

>>23405960
That's the only woman he liked (his wife who passed away)

>>23405952
Clearly you've never read it because she doesn't molest her son.

>>23405988
>That's the only woman he liked (his wife who passed away)
Isn't Wufei like 15 years old? What's this nonsense about having a wife?

I thought his origin was that his Colony blew up and destroyed his enite family. So he swore revenge against the Earth government.

>>23406306
>Isn't Wufei like 15 years old? What's this nonsense about having a wife?
Arranged marriage at 14.

>>23405713
the goth asian was me

>>23404794

HOLY LEOS!