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Anonymous No.23449206 >>23449341 >>23449389 >>23449393 >>23449640 >>23449684 >>23450498 >>23451596 >>23451789 >>23452940 >>23453307 >>23454001 >>23454702 >>23460561 >>23460592 >>23461195 >>23473610 >>23478135
Why is she bad again?
Anonymous No.23449314 >>23449992 >>23450398 >>23454739
Because women aren't allowed to have emotions and should devote themselves entirely to the nerdy nice guy who just showed up
Anonymous No.23449337 >>23453227
She worked for Anaheim, so of course he was in bed with both sides.
Anonymous No.23449341 >>23449353
>>23449206 (OP)
director retcon
Anonymous No.23449353 >>23449373
>>23449341
What retcon? We learned about their relationship as early as the moon
Anonymous No.23449373 >>23449380
>>23449353
Yeah it was rectonned after episode 4, which is a lot of time production wise when you consider this was an OVA series.
Anonymous No.23449380 >>23449396
>>23449373
How is it even a retcon
Anonymous No.23449389
>>23449206 (OP)
She aided a zeek terrorist and never got held accountable.
Anonymous No.23449393
>>23449206 (OP)
she is uninteresting, just like the other two leads of the show.
Anonymous No.23449396 >>23449400 >>23449405 >>23456151
>>23449380
>Sees Gato in a Feddie suit
>Doesn't react
>Was only worried that a spy was stealing her Gundam
But totally not a retcon
Anonymous No.23449400
>>23449396
She didn’t see him. There was no sight line
Anonymous No.23449405 >>23449615 >>23449663 >>23452086 >>23452302 >>23453111
>>23449396
Except she didn’t see him
https://youtu.be/tLC3HHk1gBo?si=KJ4PkDdBOEasHOGH
Anonymous No.23449610
I'm surprised no one has made vegeta kneeling edit for Kou, or I'm not seeing it yet
Anonymous No.23449615 >>23449638
>>23449405
She knew who he was. They knew who they were chasing.
Anonymous No.23449638 >>23449653
>>23449615
But not in the hangar
Anonymous No.23449640
>>23449206 (OP)

Watch it and find out.
Anonymous No.23449653 >>23449654
>>23449638
At multiple points before she shot Kou
Anonymous No.23449654 >>23464962
>>23449653
She never shot Kou. Wtf
Anonymous No.23449663 >>23449713 >>23449739 >>23449756
>>23449405
Oh it's you again.
Anonymous No.23449684 >>23449689
>>23449206 (OP)
Ask the the North American Mass Granary
Anonymous No.23449689 >>23449709
>>23449684
Nobody messes with the heartland
Anonymous No.23449709
>>23449689
YEE HAW
Anonymous No.23449713 >>23449729
>>23449663
Idk who I am but hi. How are you.
Anonymous No.23449729
>>23449713
I DON'T KNOW WHO I AM!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqDK0ibnGbE
Anonymous No.23449739
>>23449663
Omg schizo anon? Hiiii
Anonymous No.23449756
>>23449663
Who’s they?
Anonymous No.23449992
>>23449314
Yes
Anonymous No.23450398 >>23450486 >>23454739 >>23456093 >>23478153
>>23449314
>you are so immature
>not like my ex that is sooooo charismatic when he goes on rants about how hitler did nothing wrong and starts doing nazi salutes
Anonymous No.23450486 >>23451788 >>23452072 >>23456729 >>23461694 >>23461860
>>23450398
>her Ex
Anonymous No.23450498 >>23450886
>>23449206 (OP)
Because she reminds me of my whore mother.
Anonymous No.23450886
>>23450498
What this guy said.
Fuck these wenches, man.
Anonymous No.23451505 >>23451574
Woman
Anonymous No.23451574
>>23451505
Man of Moe
Anonymous No.23451596 >>23451736 >>23451741
>>23449206 (OP)
Because she enabled and assisted an idiotic terrorist strike that caused a string of the worst oppression experienced in the Universal Century, all because she was so morally repugnant a person she put her attraction to a dipshit hyper-violent retard over any moral fiber in her body.
Anonymous No.23451681 >>23452945 >>23467643
I wonder if they willingly committed any crimes.
Anonymous No.23451736
>>23451596
She did what to who? How?
Anonymous No.23451741
>>23451596
What the fuck are you talking about
Anonymous No.23451788 >>23453167
>>23450486
Why are so many redditors Zeek apologists?
Anonymous No.23451789
>>23449206 (OP)
too realistic I dont watch anime to be blackpilled
Anonymous No.23452072
>>23450486
They literally gassed billions of the Spacenoids they're "watching starve" and then killed billions more innocent civilians - who literally had nothing to do with it because the stupid bastards MISSED their supposed target.
Anonymous No.23452086 >>23452093 >>23452234 >>23467099
>>23449405
>Except she didn’t see him
Are you stupid? They spend weeks chasing him, and knew it was Gato and had his photo and information.

At NO POINT did Nina ever say "Omg that's my ex-boyfriend. This is crazy." or give any hints to the audience that they were a couple. Nina watches his broadcast to the world and does nothing. She acted completely fine until the final episodes when it was suddenly revealed she dated Gato, and went emotionally crazy.

This is what happens when you have 2 different directors handle an anime. The first director just wanted to make a straight forward action anime inspired by Top Gun. The second director wanted to have more drama and is on record saying he likes dramas. Total conflicting visions for an anime.
Anonymous No.23452093 >>23467099
>>23452086
The bigger irony of it isn't even to do with Nina, but with Gato, and how in the earlier portions of the show and his first interaction with Kou he almost has this bizarre camaraderie/begrudging mentor thing going on with him, where his sheer disgust with his greenness is making Gato explain to him how to be less shit.

That's the kind of ace pilot rivalry you'd expect in something that wants to be like Top Gun, not whatever in the hell they thought they were doing with the love triangle mess, or turning him into King of Apologism.
Anonymous No.23452143 >>23452191 >>23452195 >>23452262
Anaheim Angels
Anonymous No.23452191 >>23452200 >>23466147
>>23452143
I know they are showing off the cute girls but it's very weird how none of the technicians or people who assembled the Gundam are celebrated in the photo. It's odd how the Engineers are the ones being celebrated when all they do is type on a computer.

Where are the grunts? Where are the techs? Where are the mechanics like Moira on the Albion? There's no way these engineers in pencil skirts put that Gundam together.
Anonymous No.23452195 >>23467714
>>23452143
Now that I think about it, this whole mess regarding Nina and Gato was her fault.

>Oh btw, I will now suddenly remind you that the crazy Zeon remint was your ex-boyfriend.
Her telling the audience about this lore changed what could've been Top Gun in space to a sudden romance drama mixed with MISUNDERSTANDINGS that ended in another Colony drop
Anonymous No.23452200 >>23452237
>>23452191
I chalk it up as Anaheim Electronics marketing

>Join today and you too can work alongside cute girls building mobile suits.
Anonymous No.23452234 >>23452324
>>23452086
She didn’t see him in the hangar anon. You have to let it go, the accident wasn’t your fault
Anonymous No.23452237 >>23452268 >>23452345 >>23453178
>>23452200
Suddenly reminded of Journey to Jaburo where they get all the Feddie girls to congratulate you but for Zeon it's the guys.
Anonymous No.23452257 >>23452300
Reading from the previous threads about Nina, it's mostly because she didn't get trialed for her connections involving Operation Stardust.
Anonymous No.23452262
>>23452143
Would wife any of them. Especially the photo-bombing-head-holding one.
Anonymous No.23452268 >>23452345 >>23470051
>>23452237
Anonymous No.23452280 >>23470566
Keith clearly had the best taste in women.
Anonymous No.23452300
>>23452257
What connection? That she works at Anaheim?
Anonymous No.23452302
>>23449405
Oh it’s the Breaker Guy. Cool
Anonymous No.23452324 >>23452456 >>23452544
>>23452234
You mean Nina didn't see the live TV broadcast with Gato standing in front of Gp02 with billions of people watching? Your snarky comment doesn't work when you can't even remember the anime properly. Tsk tsk. Try again.
Anonymous No.23452345 >>23452396 >>23452427 >>23452512 >>23467729
>>23452237
>>23452268
In all fairness, the only Zeon girls outside of Hamon and picreal are crazy, psychotic hags like Kycilia and Cima
Anonymous No.23452396
>>23452345
Yeah they are nuts. They need Earth love.
Anonymous No.23452427 >>23452458 >>23452519 >>23453043 >>23453284 >>23453441 >>23453441 >>23464962 >>23467729
>>23452345
It's hilarious that Gundam writers think Zeon would draft ANY women to fight on the front lines. They would all stay in Zeon home colonies. Either taking care of the family or working in a factory to make weapons for Zeon. Only the Federation would draft women since they were so short on manpower after the Colony drops.

This whole "every gundam team has a designated female character" is such a fantasy and basically a fetish for Gundam writers to create a waifu. 99.9% Women would never volunteer to fight in the front lines.
Anonymous No.23452456 >>23452468 >>23452544
>>23452324
Anon being those goalposts back. She couldn’t physically see him in the Albion hangar. There’s no grand conspiracy
Anonymous No.23452458 >>23453883
>>23452427
The few Zeon women who did fight were being drafted at the end of the OYW when Zeon was losing the war. In Code Fairy, two of the girls never volunteered to fight while the third was part of Zimmad.
Anonymous No.23452468 >>23452544
>>23452456
I don't think he's the same Anon you were talking to originally.
Anonymous No.23452512 >>23452515
>>23452345
What about Aina?
Anonymous No.23452515
>>23452512
I guess she counts but had the whole "I'm not a doll to many big brother" thing; still more sane than the hags.
Anonymous No.23452519 >>23452529
>>23452427
>is such a fantasy

So are the existence of robots
Anonymous No.23452529
>>23452519
I assume you mean giant manned robots in which case yes, since in reality the Guntank and Ball would've been the premiere weapons of the Federation.
Anonymous No.23452544
>>23452456
>>23452468

NTA but isn't the original argument about whether Nina recognized Gato before the final episodes of 0083? I agree with the other anon that maybe Nina didn't recognize Gato in the hangar because of the distance, but Nina it seems a bit silly that she did mlt recognize Gato from Gp01's cockpit recordings, or when the Delaz fleet did the big announcement like anon said here >>23452324 . If I'm wrong then feel free to correct me. I just don't understand what you people are arguing about.
Anonymous No.23452940 >>23453102
>>23449206 (OP)
Literally a war criminal who got away scott free.
Anonymous No.23452945 >>23452946
>>23451681
They all died and that's what matters.
Anonymous No.23452946 >>23452947 >>23452950
>>23452945
Is that fact?

The only thing I know for fact is Monsha stuck with the Titans and is now a cripple living on Mars with Zeons in hiding.
Anonymous No.23452947
>>23452946
Monsha did nothing wrong.
Anonymous No.23452950 >>23452954
>>23452946
They all died offscreen in Zeta
Anonymous No.23452954
>>23452950
Again, is that fact? Because not all the Titans died in Operation Maelstrom.
Anonymous No.23453043 >>23453045 >>23453054
>>23452427

Save for 08th MS Team's Karen Joshua and Lilith from Code Fairy, how many female EF soldiers were even MS pilots? To my knowledge, women in EF MS units found in games and novels were mostly mission control.
Anonymous No.23453045
>>23453043

Meant "games and manga".
Anonymous No.23453054 >>23453441
>>23453043
Christina from 0080 comes to mind, as well as Shiiko. There was Lila, Mouar, Four, and Rosamia in Zeta. Roux was from Anaheim\AEUG so guess that doesn't count. Keyra was a regular pilot in Londo Bell, Chan seemed to be in engineering services but apparently knew how to pilot at least for the basics. if you go into games and manga then there's some more obviously, but male pilots still tends to outnumber female pilots by like a 10:1 ratio or greater
Anonymous No.23453102 >>23453114
>>23452940
I keep hearing this but what actual crimes
Anonymous No.23453111
>>23449405
Nigha even that video says it can’t defend hearing him over the radio or seeing him on tv
Anonymous No.23453114 >>23453124 >>23453172 >>23453176
>>23453102
She assisted Gato in dropping the Colony.
Anonymous No.23453124 >>23453137 >>23453142 >>23453152
>>23453114
….how exactly? I’ll wait. This is interesting
Anonymous No.23453137 >>23453142 >>23453147
>>23453124
By pulling a gun and threatening to kill a Federation officer. Are you f*cking stupid? Did you even watch the anime?
Anonymous No.23453142 >>23453147 >>23453148
>>23453124
Nina literally gave Gato cover with her gun when he was in the Colony control room and aiming the Colony at Earth.

>>23453137
>Did you even watch the anime?
He probably thought he had some sort of "gotcha", and wanted to debate that Nina broke no laws. But he forgot about the ending.
Anonymous No.23453147 >>23453160 >>23453191
>>23453137
>>23453142
NTA but calling another anon stupid when yall didn’t even remember it right is rich.
Fact 1 is the colony was already past the point of no return and was going to fall no matter what. It’s after this point Nina flies over to it and finds Gato making course adjustments. She then grabs HIS gun and points it at HIM and threatens to shoot him if he doesn’t cut that shit out. Not even a few seconds of pause later Kou shoots him from off screen and homie pulls the lever ANYWAY.

All Nina did by pointing the gun at Kou was stop him from double tapping Gato after the damage was already done. Rat behaviour? Absolutely fuck that bitch. But she had no hand in the drop and every time one of you retards brings this up it’s clear you just hate women
Anonymous No.23453148
>>23453142
That screenshot is her pointing at GATO holy fuck you dumb
Anonymous No.23453152 >>23453170 >>23453176
>>23453124
she had the chance to stop him, but couldn't shoot him, then kou shows up and does shoot him, but it's too late. then she points her gun at kou so she can escape with gato. then she just chills on a zeon ship doing the typical "no! buy why must we fight!!!" spiel and gato does a suicide charge, kou gets court martialed over this because he refuses to say anything that would incriminate her.
Anonymous No.23453160 >>23453176
>>23453147
>Fact 1 is the colony was already past the point of no return and was going to fall no matter what.

Adjustments could have been made have the Colony strike an uninhabited area like the middle of the ocean. Instead the Colony hit North America and killed hundreds of millions of people.

Also Nina pulling a gun on a Federation officer to defend a genocidal terrorist is a CRIME. You aren't going to win this argument. She's guilty and should be in prison.
Anonymous No.23453167
>>23451788
Because they are "leftist" for the most part, and in leftist thought the oppressed (or historically oppressed) group is always morally right. That's why Zeon was fully justified in genociding the EF as the EF was oppressing them. That same oppression justifies all of the Neo-Zeon actions and probably could be extended to the Jupiter Empire and Zanscare's actions.
Yes, this is retarded but people as a group are retarded.
Anonymous No.23453170 >>23453172 >>23453189 >>23453741
>>23453152
Third anon here. You’re all stupid. She’s got the fun on him for literal seconds. Then he gets shot and pulls it anyway!
Nobody is defending her for pulling on Kou after but saying she helped or caused the drop is schizophrenia
Anonymous No.23453172
>>23453170
Also just as a reminder the intial reply was for “she assisted Gato in dropping the colony”. >>23453114 which is still a lie
What the fuck are you all doing
Anonymous No.23453176
>>23453152
>>23453160
Okay cool how does that defend this >>23453114 statement exactly?
Anonymous No.23453178
>>23452237
This is a subtle reference to how Zeek fans are all closeted homosexuals
Anonymous No.23453189
>>23453170
She should have shot Gato immediately instead of having a conversation with him and giving him time to wrap up his final adjustments. She was even watching him type.
Anonymous No.23453191 >>23453195
>>23453147
>Fact 1 is the colony was already past the point of no return and was going to fall no matter what.
They could have detonated several nukes and blown up the Colony into smaller chunks that would burn up in the atmosphere.
Anonymous No.23453195 >>23453201
>>23453191
Then why didn’t they anon. They could’ve sent dozens of MS from the surface to crash into it. They could’ve given Gato aids
Anonymous No.23453201 >>23453210
>>23453195
>They could’ve sent dozens of MS from the surface to crash into it.
Isn't that really stupid? Why would they do that when the Federation has nuclear missiles?
Anonymous No.23453210
>>23453201
So aids is still on the table?
Anonymous No.23453227
>>23449337
underrated kek
Anonymous No.23453284
>>23452427
Nigga shut the fuck up. I bet you cry about the girl cadets in Thunderbolt
Anonymous No.23453307
>>23449206 (OP)
Fan boys can't stand female lead has romantic feelings and attachments to her ex. Plus the script writer of the later half of the series is an Zeon lover ,so he mess up the story of the first half
Anonymous No.23453441 >>23453925
>>23453054

>Christina from 0080 comes to mind, as well as Shiiko. There was Lila, Mouar, Four, and Rosamia in Zeta. Roux was from Anaheim\AEUG so guess that doesn't count. Keyra was a regular pilot in Londo Bell, Chan seemed to be in engineering services but apparently knew how to pilot at least for the basics.

I was replying to >>23452427 in terms of UC side stories set in the OYW. Chris wasn't even assigned to a team (the Scarlet Team were simply extra muscle for the EF-Riah garrison assigned to defend the base in Ribo), Shiiko remains a GQuuuuuuX exclusive until she ends up introduced into Primary Universal Century, and female MS pilots in the sequels ended up where they are because things changed after the OYW.

>male pilots still tends to outnumber female pilots by like a 10:1 ratio or greater

That is why I disagree with >>23452427. If I may be so bold to express this, when it comes to women in the military, I imagine not all want to be frontline combatants (you can thank or blame centuries of misogyny for that) and in Universal Century Gundam, it's easy to assume that while it may not be like in real life, pic related reminds us not all women in the military are even capable of being frontline combatants in the first place so when the OYW started, female combatants, especially as MS pilots, would have been rare.
Anonymous No.23453741 >>23453785
>>23453170
they spent a solid minute talking, he had to go to another panel during this and input some more shit before the lever thing even opens.
Anonymous No.23453785 >>23453929
>>23453741
And how long did she have his gun on him after he put it down?
Anonymous No.23453883 >>23453933
>>23452458
>Zeon: Kills half of humanity
>Stupid Zeek girls: WHAT! THE FEDERATION JUST DID A WAR CRIME! BOOOOO!
Anonymous No.23453925
>>23453441
>I imagine not all want to be frontline combatants (you can thank or blame centuries of misogyny for that)
Lmao. Fool. It has nothing to do with misogyny. Women are CHOOSING not to sign up for front line roles. Nothing is stopping them. Just look at the USA's female enlistment numbers. Horribly bad and most wash out. Turns out 99.98% of women don't like physically demanding roles! Especially for stuff like Navy Seals and special forces. Who would have thought??bMost Gundams reflect that reality. Except for when the writers want a cute female to partner for the male lead.
Anonymous No.23453929
>>23453785
>And how long did she have his gun on him after he put it down?
You don't think Nina doesn't have access to guns? That she can't find a pistol? She stole friggan core fighter.
Anonymous No.23453933 >>23458035
>>23453883
>Not getting the context
Disguising oneself as an ally is a war crime, and as stated, most of those girls didn't even want to fight in the war and would defect in a heartbeat given the chance.
Anonymous No.23454001 >>23454013 >>23461865
>>23449206 (OP)
Because she defended Gato the guy who was her ex and has made multiple attempts to destroy the GP01(her lifes work) and also kill Kou who she was currently dating. She had all the reason to just let him get put down but nope she threatens Kou to not do it.

Then by defending him he goes out and slaughters a bunch of Feddies and has other Zeons commit to a kamikaze run costing tons of others their lives. She is a bad person because her fucked up priorities led her to disrespect not just a semi-decent mans judgement but also herself and the organization she stands for WHILE contributing to the senseless deaths of others.

How can you ever hope to trust anyone who does something like that again?
Anonymous No.23454013
>>23454001
That pussy game is ridiculous, though.
Anonymous No.23454702
>>23449206 (OP)
>I don't care about these two soldiers's political allegiance and conflict! What about my feelings?!
She is bad because she is a disgusting femoid with an unstable moral compass.
Anonymous No.23454739
>>23449314
Go back

>>23450398
This lmao
Anonymous No.23456093
>>23450398
dream wife
Anonymous No.23456151
>>23449396
She didn't recognize him until he stepped on the Rhinocerous
Anonymous No.23456729
>>23450486
If it was just dropping a colony, or just starting the war I feel it would be justified. But there's a line I feel at nerve gassing people or trying to nuke the neutral (the federation did have a secret base but again it's a little more justifiable to have a military research base than to drop a nuke) colony of side six
Anonymous No.23458035 >>23460634
>>23453933
They fought a diehard last stand so that Zeon could surrender on better terms. They were loyal soldiers that killed hundreds.
Anonymous No.23460561
>>23449206 (OP)
She betrayed me.
Anonymous No.23460592 >>23460636
>>23449206 (OP)
because she fucking shot at kou so he wouldn't kill the guy who's dropping a colony on earth, i thought that was kinda obvious
Anonymous No.23460634
>>23458035
At that point in time, they had no choice but to fight a last stand because they had become so successful in missions, the Federation made a whole squad for the sole purpose of hunting Noisy Fairy. They weren't in a position to leave, and killing hundreds is something that happens in war.

Their story made it plain as day that everyone at Noisy Fairy was against the colony drop and did what they did to survive.
Anonymous No.23460636 >>23460736
>>23460592
You made it clear you hate women
Anonymous No.23460736
>>23460636
if a guy did that i wouldn't like them too, i don't see your point
Anonymous No.23461195 >>23461356 >>23461486
>>23449206 (OP)
I guarantee if the genders were reversed everyone would defend femGato and want her to step on them. And defend maleNina saying he's literally them for defending their evil waifu
Anonymous No.23461356
>>23461195
lol
Anonymous No.23461486 >>23461546 >>23464613 >>23467736 >>23467742
>>23461195
They already do what with Cima, though. Everyone ignores her being comically evil and a backstabbing opportunist because she had some sad backstory in some side material.

Just because they want Cima as her dommy mommy doesn't remove her shitty personality.
Anonymous No.23461546 >>23461701 >>23466117
>>23461486
>Comically evil
What did she do besides backstabbing the space nazis?
Anonymous No.23461679 >>23461754 >>23464548
0083 is unironically my favorite anime ever made, I genuinely enjoyed it more than anything else and I've basically watched everything
Anonymous No.23461694
>>23450486
>Yes they killed billions but muh socio-economical space factors
Anonymous No.23461701
>>23461546
You know what she did
Anonymous No.23461754
>>23461679
its pretty fun
I saw it in the 90s, and I liked it alot more the Wing
Anonymous No.23461860
>>23450486
>Killing a third of the entire human population is okay because Zeon was oppressed
Zeon apologists are something else
Anonymous No.23461865
>>23454001
Notice how none of the retards going "People just hate Nina because they just can't handle a girl liking her ex!!" responded to this?
Anonymous No.23461899
So apparently Keith was bisexual?
Anonymous No.23464548
>>23461679
Are you me?
Anonymous No.23464613
>>23461486
tall tired milf sex
Anonymous No.23464962 >>23464975
>>23449654
She does shoot at Kou when she takes Gato away. She doesn't hit him but she does shoot at him.
>>23452427
Zeon had way less people than the Federation. It's a massive plot point that Zeon is a decade more advanced in terms of technology but is severely lacking in manpower to finish their super advanced suits and pilots to actually man them. A Baoa Qu was mostly fought by barely trained young conscripts and a big part of why Axis needed to stay hidden was because they only had 50 pilots at most in 0080.
Anonymous No.23464975
>>23464962
Nice. So she never shot him? You’re really still trying to argue somethings different than what was originally said?
Anonymous No.23466117 >>23467050 >>23467118
>>23461546
Didn't she kill Burning and that's why Kou killed her when tried to switch sides?
Anonymous No.23466147
>>23452191
Just dig the hole, hole-digger.
Anonymous No.23467050 >>23467118 >>23467128
>>23466117
she didn't exactly kill him so much as scratch his GM a little and the damn thing imploded by itself
she was definitely trying until she got told they were at max retrieval range though
Anonymous No.23467099 >>23467128 >>23467538
>>23452086
>>23452093
I think 0083's Top Gun inspiration is really superficial. Top Gun is a pure action movie and the first half of 0083 feels like an attempt to embed all the tropes and aesthetics of the film into the context of a war drama which Top Gun tried so hard to avoid.
Anonymous No.23467118 >>23467121 >>23467846
>>23466117
>>23467050
She was largely responsible for mutilating the GP01 even though it was Kous fault for launching it with no space spec.
Anonymous No.23467121 >>23467846
>>23467118
Anonymous No.23467128 >>23467538
>>23467050
>>23467099

Burning's death was also one of the biggest examples of how 0083 tried so hard to be a Hollywood style action thriller and came off looking even more hackneyed.
Anonymous No.23467538
>>23467128
I wrote >>23467099 but I didnt really mean it that critically. A lot of the plot points seemingly inspired by Top Gun work somewhat well in relation to Kou's character arc (I really liked von Braun and Kelly) but other stuff like Burnings death (presumably inspired by goose) which adds nothing thematically (Kou has already finished his primary character arc after Kelly by this point) or the dudebro pilot team (seemingly modeled after the pilots and their culture at Top Gun) who might as well just be reduced to Monsha alone so he can get his ass kicked by Kou once,
by which I mean to say Im not sure how strong of an influence Top Gun really was when 0083 only uses the aesthetics to tell a different story. I feel like people lean on the comparison too strongly when talking about the anime.
Anonymous No.23467643
>>23451681
Whos the Twink?
Anonymous No.23467714
>>23452195
>Poral Guilish

What in the flying fuck are those names? Sounds Indian/Afghan, but that girl is clearly white. Or is it just random gibberish?
Anonymous No.23467729 >>23467736 >>23467855
>>23452345
>crazy, psychotic hags

Do not ever disrespect Cima like that, you faggot.
>>23452427
Shut the fuck up, retard.
Anonymous No.23467736 >>23467739
>>23467729
kek like clockwork >>23461486
Anonymous No.23467739
>>23467736
Wtf do you mean?
Anonymous No.23467742 >>23467783
>>23461486
>Her being comically evil and a backstabbing opportunist

She is not either of those .
Anonymous No.23467783 >>23467802 >>23467802
>Cima defense force is here
Just because she's your dommy mommy doesn't mean she doesn't have a shit personally. Hence why 90% her porn is scat.

>>23467742
She turned on Delaz the second she realized he was losing to defect to the Federation despite killing for them while laughing like a comic villain.

>hurr but she sided with the good guys
She had little issue killing feddies and only wanted to join when seeing Zeon as a sinking ship.
Anonymous No.23467802
>>23467783
>Doesn't mean she doesn't have a shit personally. Hence why 90% her porn is scat.

She literally has a perfect personality, and you are just a spiteful faggot.
>>23467783
>defect to the Federation despite killing for them while laughing like a comic villain.

Never happened.
>She had little issue killing feddies
She literally had a PTSD fueled nightmares about the Gas attack.
Anonymous No.23467846 >>23470806
>>23467118
>>23467121
Really weird how no other Gundam had this level of durability again. Looks like the animation team went too far just for some mecha gore. They shouldn't have used Gelgoogs with beam weapons. Doms with bazookas hitting the GP01 make more sense here.
Anonymous No.23467855 >>23469395
>>23467729
Cima's character makes no sense. She's smart enough to guide her crew to survive 4 years as pirates. But too stupid to realize that the Federation will never honor their word. Both the anime and manga reveal that Bask and Jamitov were never going to give her a place in the Titans. They were going to dispose of her as soon as her usefulness came to an end.

How can she be such an idiot?

She would have been better off supporting Delaz. That way her pirate fleet would have been given a free ticket to Axis. Ths Cima team would have been celebrated as heroes at Axis, and given brand new ships and mobile suits.

Then Cima could have worked her way up to top leadership next to Haman. Especially since we find out that Axis has shortage of experienced leaders and pirates. Cima would have been a top leader in Axis.
Anonymous No.23469395 >>23471354
>>23467855
too many people look at this motherfucker and think "yeah i can trust that guy"
he doesn't even have any eye problems for god's sake, he just wears the goggles for the aesthetic
Anonymous No.23470051 >>23470949
>>23452268
Mommy! Childhood friend! Big sis! Sexla! Tilda! and it's...IT'S...THE OTHER ONE!
Anonymous No.23470566
>>23452280
No! You will be kill by amazons.
Anonymous No.23470806 >>23471317
>>23467846
the netflix gundam did, it had a gm actually tanking hits from zakus. instead of just blowing up immediately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCxZVRgTBGI
Anonymous No.23470949
>>23470051
Anonymous No.23471317
>>23470806
Anon im pretty sure what he is saying is that Gundams arent usually that fragile and tale hits like that without dents even appearing. Shit like their shield getting broken and the head taking damage like Kou does is a rarity.
Anonymous No.23471354 >>23473358 >>23473596
>>23469395

>he doesn't even have any eye problems for god's sake, he just wears the goggles for the aesthetic

Didn't the torture he endure while imprisoned in a Zeon POW camp damage his eyesight, hence those goggles?
Anonymous No.23473358 >>23473569
>>23471354
He seems fine whenever he's not wearing them in Zeta.
Anonymous No.23473569
>>23473358
Could be light sensitivity as opposed to having distorted vision or something else from the torture. Like being confined in the dark for long periods.
Anonymous No.23473596
>>23471354
This gets said a lot but I've never seen an actual source for it
Anonymous No.23473610
>>23449206 (OP)

She derails Kou's entire career sacrifice just so she can save her space Nazi ex boyfriend who cared nothing for her. Kou put everything on the line to stop Gato's Colony Drop of the American mid west in Stardust Memory's conclusion.

How the hell could you even begin to trust her again after that finale? She put thousands of innocent lives in danger just to satisfy herself and Gato ended up going off and getting killed regardless.
Anonymous No.23478135
>>23449206 (OP)
In the words of Wufei, "because she's a woman"
Anonymous No.23478153
>>23450398
>that is sooooo charismatic when he goes on rants about how hitler did nothing wrong and starts doing nazi salutes
This is the trick, you have to scare the hoes a bit, but not too much