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SUPER ROBOT WARS Y available now for PS5, Switch and Steam
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when does the shop function unlock? Is it a chapter thing? Should I be doing something?

>>23506862 (OP)
Mating press Chise and Echika!

>>23506871
Chapter 3

DLC interaction when?

Is this the first game where it's viable to hit the level cap just by playing normally? I'm halfway into Chapter 6 and everyone's hitting level 99.

>>23506871
The shop unlocks after clearing Chapter 3.

>>23506859
Oh, so dark getter rays are actually the good getter rays. AKA Spiral Energy. Thats kinda funny.

>>23506881
>playing normally
It's basically impossible to define that. For some people, playing normally has them regularly hitting 99 in level scaling games. I think 30 is one of the few games where everybody rams the level cap effortlessly. Y, not so much, if you aren't grinding Fronts then you'll end in the 70s.

>>23506885
Getter Rays overall are already spiral energy when you think about it, heck Ryoma helped Simon combine into SG Gurren Lagann with a fucking Getter Beam back in Z3.

>>23506892
Getter Rays have always been amazing. People need to accept that as long as you're human, we'll benefit from it.

>Guel locks himself in the bathroom to avoid interacting with Suletta.
What the fuck was the need for such nonsense? I guess after this scene "Bob" will never speak again.

Well, at least, his Darilbalde has pretty good animation.

>>23506881
Depends on the difficulty cause leveling is slower on hard and expert
I'm in Ch6 and haven't done any fronts and most of my team is Lv55
I think by the end of BX I was passing Lv80 on most of my team

>>23506900
Reminds me of 30 having Banagher never taking off the pilot suit and roleplaying as some mystery man in a corner just to not interact with anyone in the team.

Is speaking the right choice to get the true ending?

>>23506898
>we'll benefit from it.

Saotome, Michiru, Genkei, and everyone towards the end of the Shin Getter manga disagree

>>23506892
The parallels were always there by design. Getter Rays are the light of evolution that allowed mammals to surpass the dinosaurs and ultimately breach into space; Spiral Energy is the indomitable spirit of human progress as symbolized by the perpetual forward motion of a drill.

>>23506898
>pic related: benefit

I hit 99 in J on one playthrough but it was definitely a NG+ run where I was abusing resource generation and keeping everybody's average level high as much as I could.

>>23506908
>>23506910

Believe in Getter, is all part of the plan...

>>23506907
Bottom choice is true ending

>>23506914
Thank you.

>>23506908
I swear you make one super robot that tries to eat the universe and then the government gets all up on your ass. Land of the free my ass.

>>23506887
By playing normally I mean not abusing repair grinding. I did as many Fronts as possible between emergency calls in 30 but I don't remember hitting 99, in Y I've been doing as many Fronts as possible and I'm at 99 with quite a bit of story left.

>Beat everything except for a couple of Windermere ships on the rout in 5 turns map
That was kind of fun.

>>23506910
Funniest shit I've read that in the Arc Anime, The Getter Go team did reunite. It's just that Go absorbed all of Gai's fatness.

>>23506912
Was Benkei going insane with Getter Rays part of the plan?

>>23506925
I always look forward to what custom line Daba's going to do after this. He has a surprising number of them.

>>23506881
Chapter 5 right now and my dudes average at 51.

Why was this man camping in Asticassia? Surely just wanting to sell his goods to the Benerit group and perhaps hit Frejya's party right?

>>23506908
>>23506910
>>23506919
>>23506912
>>23506926
They live on in Getter Rays. It's all for the sake of humanity being preserved. Trust.

>>23506926
>Was Benkei going insane with Getter Rays part of the plan?
Just like every Getter fatso, he learned and came to understand the true plan of Getter for humanity.

Sveet Raid or Six and a Dragon?

>>23506930
he dropped into America first when he came to earth so he just thought that you could just sell guns at any school

I'm starting to think maybe these Getter Rays aren't benevolent and helpful.

How long does it take for Shion to unlock Battler? At this rate, I'm going to ace him before he unlocks the skill.

This must be way different if you get Izuru's ace before Ch5

>>23506932
What if everything people blame on Getter Rays was actually Ryoma influencing them

>>23506938
Getter can just be dangerous if uncheck , but it operates with benefit of humanity in the end. Besides they helped plenty in other games.

Like upgrading Mazinger into Mazinkaiser the first time back in F or saving Rebuild Asuka's life back in V.

>>23506942
It's the same general conversation but they don't namedrop Midollo.

>>23506946
I wouldn't put it past him

>>23506933
>>23506938
>>23506932


How come Getter 2 pilots are the only ones who get happy lives? While Getter 3 pilots gets absorbed, and Getter 1 pilots usually die second.

>>23506951
>happy lives
You mean the ones with survivor's guilt over losing their best friends?

>>23506941
I believe Shion gets Battler when he gets the Bellvine, which is Chapter 5 in What Makes a Battler.

>>23506930
Poseidal selling guns to kids fits his inceldom pretty well.

COME BACK, PLEASE

https://questant.jp/q/X5CSBQZ6#page1
What were your choices from this questionnaire?

>>23506957
I wasn't even aware of this...

>>23506955
Next OG group should be Harlock-esque space pirates since we just got ninjas.

One year since the passing of Emi Shinohara.

>>23506972
Haven’t reached this part yet, is this actually Gauma hitting on Akira’s mom?

>>23506900
How decent is Bob?

>>23506955
I wish they would do a game that even surpassed V's level of ships. I want Super Ship Wars goddammit.
>Arcadia
>Yamato
>Macross of some sort
>Ptolemaios
>Bebop as an actual ship

>>23506951
>How come Getter 2 pilots are the only ones who get happy lives? While Getter 3 pilots gets absorbed, and Getter 1 pilots usually die second.

I wouldn't say Hayato or Kamui had happy lives, even Sho felt sad and didn't had closure over her companions. The getter fatsos are the heart of the team, so naturally they come to understand Getter on a more intuitive sense, of course with very fucked up results.

Getter 1 pilots are usually more complex because it is clear Getter develops a liking to then, they are strong willed and try to defy their fate most of the time. So of course it wants individuals like then to keep leading the charge and to never let go off then.

>>23506979
Outlaw Star would be better than either of the last two.

>>23506986
Kallen is pretty violent in the bedroom.

>>23506991
If she ever scored of course.

>>23506976
His ace bonus. He looks more like a Mazinger/Gundam Fighter pilot than a real robot pilot, which makes sense in SRW Y.

>>23506904
But fucking everyone knows who he is so it just makes Banana look even weirder.

>>23507001
>is also one of the best pilots in the game
>thinks he can keep up the farce despite his one in a billion skills and Newtype abilities

Sex with Banagher Links.

In-universe the thought of real robots attacking large Super Robots like Reideen and Getter makes me chuckle.

>>23506996
>Has Defiance
>ACE gives him more skill for some reason

Wouldn't it make more sense for Defiance to always be active, completely disregarding the Skill Reqs, as his ACE?

>>23507008
It sure would. Assuming the damage formula is the same, eventually that ace bonus is worth like 4-5% more damage. Pretty shit.

>>23507004
I just had him spam his finisher in the C-Packs so he can soredemo at people, worked better than expected.

Did they give Hayate a placeholder ace bonus? It's like a net damage loss of 5% against most enemies since it turns off Defiance.
He's not the only one with an underpowered ace, but its definitely the most egregious. They should fix it in a patch but then again, Jonah never got the +NT Level he needed either.

>>23507014
>>23506996
>>23507008
Does he even use CQB for any attacks? I'd expect an ace bonus like that for Keith or something if he was playable since he has the sword

>>23507012
>he complains about being bullied in stereo by the fairies and quess
got a chuckle out of me

You can try to spam ban me all you want, but you won't get rid of me. The DG-Cells are on my side.

>>23507006
>Dopants, Kamen Rider W's enemies are seen in the DLC trailer
>Probably be stages where these enemies can attack....the A Advent
We might have a contender for most mis-sized match up incoming.

>>23507023
Scopedogs attacking Shin Getter will never not be funny.

>>23507012
>>23507018
>Being shouted by a pair of fairies and Quess of all things.
>Despite all, Quess clearly trying to support him most of the time..

Gyunei is kind of lucky here, he just doesn't realize it yet.

Surprisingly Suletta's story line feels the darkest, we're talking artificial newtype and implanting people into machines Warhammer type of shit.

>>23507014
No because it has a specific thing that increases if Freya is your assist

>>23507023
>>23507026
Reminds me of Heroman and the SD Gundams back in UX, since they are human-sized in that game. Only gets funnier when you consider how big the final boss of that game is.

>>23507014
That's mainly on Defiance being a fundamentally flawed concept for a skill, since it makes you weaker as you get stronger.

>>23507023
For me it's Bonta-kun vs Black Noir from Mightgaine in V

>>23507033
Literal ants clawing Kali Yuga to death.

Master Asia (if unlocked) joins near the end of Chapter 6, during Getter's fight in Antarctica. His Master Gundam joins with 3 bars of upgrades.

Quite a few characters have quotes against BUG's pilot, and he also has a few quotes against some of the main characters. He tells Daba "I can't trust everyone like you do, Daba".

>>23507023
30 does goes out of it's way to make the Bio-Weapon enemies spawn only when the Ultramen are present in the map.

I don't know if this is the best idea but the results are sure to be hilarious, Echika

Does anyone not use the DLC units at all? Their almost complete lack of presence in intermissions made me not care. And I was planning on using Cybuster and Xelguard because I love magic robots. And I wasted my money on the ultimate edition.

>>23507032
Its just +2.5% more with Freyja.
>>23507034
Defiance is fine on characters with mediocre to bad skill since its easier to trigger when Expert gives everyone +10 SKL. Hayate's problem is that his ace does next to nothing unless you equip a specific supporter when it could have easily been
>Defiance is always active, +10% Evasion
Or some random remotely synergestic shit.

>>23507029
Well, the prologue of the show is basically a clean-up massacre of people doing shady stuff. It contrasts with the high school setting in many places.

>>23507044
Yeah it's weird as fuck, even the DLC units in 30 would actually chime in and interact every once in a while but here is like they don't exist unless for their respective events.

>>23507044
The V protags start solidly, but fall to the wayside pretty fast. Cybuster isn't the monster he was in the prior games. He desperately needs stronger attacks.

It doesn't help that MAP weapons were nerfed to shit in Y. Even the bosses MAPs are shit, and only kill unupgraded units.

>>23507046
I can't begin to express my the extent of my contempt for obvious pandering to young demographics with the school settings in recent Gundams.

>>23507051
Cybuster is pretty good as a MAP attacker, the problem is that you get Kira quite early and hes just straight up better besides his not being post move

>>23507042
I can already hear Annina dreading this news

>>23507044
I used Xelguard in the early stages because of how early the sub pilot has the "Cheer" spirit. I use both V units early too because they're good heal bots. Cybuster had been very useful for CyFlash, especially for Relic stages that requires all enemies destroyed in a turn. The Tyranados, yeah no, they're pretty worthless.

>>23507056
I don't know if it's because I'm playing on Expert, but even with 10 upgrades, his MAP does less than 2000 damage. It doesn't help that he only learns Valor/Soul pretty late. I've been using Wing Zero's and L-Gaim Mk II's MAPs way more than Cyflash.

>>23507044
Rex is pretty good and gets better after you get the upgrade attack back
Xelgard is decent and comes with Dogmas which are very usable
Masaki has Cyflash and that only gets better, and is generally still very nimble and quick
V's protags are usable early game and okay later
Base Tyranado is the only one that feels like it's picking up dust with the ReGZ and Methus

Hey they forgot to call it Super Alloy

>>23506951
Hayato was pretty miserable all things considered. Stuff worked out for Sho I guess

>>23507062
Its range and damage are cut down before you get the upgrade stage for the V duo and Cybuster.

>>23507057
That or she's going to start publishing yet more stories about Echika's "developments"

>>23507066
My guess is that different people worked on different parts of the game. For example, the achievement "Mental Fortitude" still uses the wrong translation from SRW 30.

The achievement is written as "Activate every spirit command under the Search tab in one unit", when it should be "have all Spirit Commands available at once in the Search tab".

>>23507066
There is a bit of an inconsistency problem with the names in the english translation
Kaiju Club or Eugenists? Delta Flight or Squad? Nobel or Noble Gundam?
I think I saw more but I can think of these 3 for now

>>23507071
I'm talking even after upgrades.
I think it's just because things get way overtuned way too quickly on Expert. Rodans start being cannon fodder that you kill in 2 unupgraded attacks, then suddenly they have like 12000 HP.

>>23507054
How old are you?

>>23507073
I think most of the skills and parts were copy-pasted where applicable cause Extra Arms S still has the wrong description too
And SP Supplement still gives 80 SP to the main pilot instead of 40 which I'm not sure if its a bug or they missed a line in the description.

>>23507068
more like a farts ace bonus
that's really bad

>>23507070
Well she had Schwartz and his american cock to help her cope with, that said she wasn't as involved with Getter Robots from was point on.

>>23507006
It's extremely funny playing as Shin Getter in Another Century's Episode 3, because all the units are to-scale and you just swat the mechs from other shows away like little bugs. Especially when you're fighting especially small enemies like the Dunbine ones.

>>23507072
>Echika/Chuchu doujins start showing up in Yuri Mart

>>23507054
>school settings in recent Gundams.

What even had a school setting in recent Gundam besides Gwitch?

>>23507044
I actually started using them a lot more later. The Vangs are really good at the start where 2-4 post-move attacks with good power and no morale requirements are actually incredible, then they start falling off until they get their upgrades at which point Vangnex is okay and Granvang is pretty great. Both of them having ammo-based finishers is very useful. Xelguard is only good for its Dogmas at first, but as it levels up it gets just about everything you could possibly ask for: a main pilot with Drive and Soul, a subpilot with Resupply and Bravery, another subpilot with Press, powerful ranged and post-move finishers, and it all runs off RNG so you can just pump Amari with Gunfight and RNG parts. Send it on a Relic mission to get to level 60 early and it becomes easily the best one. Tyranado Rex is never really on their level but it's certainly not bad once it upgrades, and Cybuster with its upgrade is a pretty great MAP attacker that can also hold its own in single combat.

>>23507080
Wrong.

>rewatching Big O because of Y
>No Big O theme

Fuck you Queen I thought Brain May was cool and liked that one britbong version of bomber x...

>>23506900
No he does appear in scenes every now and then.

>>23507091
Queen without Freddy isn't really Queen.

I have not being upgrading my skills at all. I really need to fix that but this kind of min maxing always gives me pause.

>>23507090
>>23507080
>>23507068
It was more useful in the VXT games where you didn't have supporters like Sayaka & Jun to shit out Gain and Fortune to everyone on demand, not to mention Green's capstone gives it to everyone once per map for free. I've never felt so hard-up for a Bless/Wish caster in Y that I wanted to deploy Fa for it.

>Angry Chuchu
The delinquent has an array of dangerous faces.

Wish is pretty good since it's 50% HP, more efficient than Trust/Faith on beefier people and your battleships.

>Borot actually gets repaired
>Still not playable, not even a Map sprite
>Instead it's just hanging out in the city off-screen
Disappointing

That said it's nice that Echika appreciates it. And Boss, Nuke, and Macha willing to take her for a spin on it was wholesome.

>>23507100
Finally, The Age of Fatso.

Chuck is so much cooler than Boss Borot, it's unreal.

>>23507094
Fighter's Spirit, Attacker, and E Save are the important ones, then Break Morale Limit and Infight/Gunfight can come later. Lucky Star's also not a bad pick if you're going to use the unit a lot, you'll probably make back your investment if you get it early enough. Later L1 is overkill because you're going to start maps by popping Sayaka/Jun, and then later Teoria which is going to pop Mirror, so you'll be starting maps with Gain/Fortune on everyone anyway, so if you're going to take Lucky Star then take L2.

>>23506740
In hakai they're 00 gundams with energy efficiency, and ozma comes with continuous action.
They're good in Z3 because MDE is awesome in squad games where you can act multiple times after killing squads. Ozma's ace bonus increase basara's buff for his partner, and Alto's custom bonus gives him S rank in space and sky.

>>23507109
Gyrozetter, my beloved series.

>>23507045
His ace bonus should be extra 20% evasion and hit with freyja equipped

>>23507099
After how they did something I thought they'd never do again and brought the Mazinkaiser movie back into SRW, I hope next time around they include the Mazinkaiser OVA since it seems like that's one of the few ways we'll ever get Boss and Sayaka back as playable pilots.

>>23507121
Why does it have abs, anyway?

goddamn they did a really good job on Aerial Rebuild, glad I didn't spoil myself on its animations

>>23507127
Because hes fit

>>23507054
Name another Gundam series with a school setting that isn't explicitly marketing towards children like the Build series. Which even then, barely spend any time at school.

>>23506881
I finished the game in the 70s because I don't bother spreading levels evenly around chapter 5

>>23507127
Mazinpower is stored in the abs

>>23507137
I see.

>>23507054
>obvious pandering to young demographics
So you don't like Gundam

>>23507125
Always Sayaka and Boss, where's the love for Jun?

>>23506955
Why haven't Yamato and 999 made a crossover officially before Leiji Matsumoto's death? It can't be lawsuits because THEY'RE FROM THE SAME CREATOR!

>>23507121
At what point of the game you get that?

>>23506881
If you're playing on Normal/Casual and get the +30% Exp node on the STG ASAP and you actually pay attention to who gets kills, level 99 is quite possible. If you do fronts as a means of slingshotting underused characters for forced deploys that chapter, that will also help.

>>23506996
Dumb bonus. He is better than I thought though 25 Press is pretty handy

>>23507102
I always think Jet Jaguar is the Successor of Fatso, since he's built with junk like Boss Borot, but with a choppy AI installed inside him.

>>23507157
5 SP turns with an SP Recoverer over Char which is a notable difference over Char's 10. The main problem with the things is it takes them so long to get their finishers.

Domon taking on all these new students really brought a smile to my face
Shinn, Suletta, Hayate, Hyoma, Kallen, even Jet Jaguar are officially pupils of Domon
Suletta especially being so into it was really funny

>>23507164
Even with his upgrades Hayate's damage output is piss, unless he gets yet another upgrade after the drones.

The DLC Getter vs Dyna is fun but they probably shouldn't have chosen two of the most busted units in the game to be pressured by these mooks
>>23507059
Early game Xelguard is super useful even if just for Dogmas

>got Messer's intermission skit
Damn I thought all of these were silly.

>>23507080
Nah that's solid. Cheap wish is nice when the game can be pretty hard hitting and assist bonus boost is better than some aces like say Rain's who just gets Love auto cast once per map at 150 morale

>>23507044
yeah it was so nice watching Ogami doting on the Rayearth girls and Kenichi from Voltes V, let alone all the stuff going between the Ultraman(let)s and Gridman. Y is lazy soulless slop compared to that

>>23507167
Poor Izuru.

>>23507167
Don't forget good old Bob.

>>23507167
He also takes in Bob

>>23507175
Just deploying Echika with a full green grid I'm starting with the Assist gauge completely maxed out.

>>23507175
Yeah, most of the once per map ones are so bad, Jet Jaguar has the only one with enough effects on it to make it feel worth it. A lot of them should be at the start of every turn.

>>23507184
>full Green
Not worth it. Up to +50% Credits and the outer +2 Assist points is enough.

>Forgot about Gridknight
>Kaiser Gridknight time
>Gridknight is like 10 levels lower than the rest of team
Whoops

>>23507091
I think someone on nipponese twitter made a post recently saying may was okay with them ripping off the flash gordon theme but didn't want to reuse it out of respect or whatever.

>>23507179
>>23507181
Domon cares about troubled youths

I know it's never gonna happen but I just want to see a SRW where all the major series are time travelling to later installments.
>OYW era Gundam flung into F91 or Crossbone plot, along with whatever AUs they think they can make fit
>DYRL (never ever thanks Harmony Gold) and Delta
>Mazinger Z and Mazinkaiser SKL or something
>Toei Getter and Getter Arc
>supers from the early era are all the big, chunky, slow ones that don't really look "modern" like Big O, etc
I'm sure there would be some glaring thing I'm missing that would make it not work out but man I think it'd be cool

>>23507141
Heero should be support attacking with Masaki

It's minor but I still hate how they transliterated エーアデント (A.Ardent) as A. Advent
There's a cafe named after the ship called Aアデン (pronounced the same as エーアデント without the ト) and they actually called it A.Ardent. Fuck you bandai.

>>23507176
>let alone all the stuff going between the Ultraman(let)s and Gridman.
The one with Akane being all flirty and throwing herself to the Ultraman guy was hilarious.

Also the Getter Devo team also had some great interactions despite being DLC, the dialogue they yet with Alexis being aware of Getter Emperor

>>23507167
Suletta should have the Sekiha tenkyoken in the next Dynasty Warriors gundam

>>23507176
The Ogami and Kenichi bit.

>>23507195
>DYRL (never ever thanks Harmony Gold) and Delta
Wouldn't Macross Plus work there as well? at least considering the plot of the Second Delta movie. Seven could also work just for the interactions with old Max.

>Toei Getter and Getter Arc
It would have to be Manga Getter if you want Young Ryo interacting with Takuma, Toei is a different continuity.

>>23507207
>Wouldn't Macross Plus work there as well? at least considering the plot of the Second Delta movie. Seven could also work just for the interactions with old Max.
I just have a soft spot for DYRL so would really like to see it back, but adding Plus too would be cool as well
>It would have to be Manga Getter if you want Young Ryo interacting with Takuma, Toei is a different continuity.
Would also be cool yeah. Ultimately I just think it would be neat to have a SRW where all the main series are time travelling to other installments. Would probably be a nightmare to write and such though and I'd imagine it could be limiting on the series list

Why doesn't she ever get to be DLC?

>>23507176
Sakura Wars is souless slop and should have never been allowed on the roster, waste of a pick in 30

>>23507224
Honestly kind of surprised as well now that you mention it, she would sell really well.

>>23507227
bait used to be believable

>>23507231
Shitty ass mechs, never used them

>>23507201
If Ple can't get it, then Suletta definitely doesn't deserve it

>>23507233
Ogami's mech is really good, actually.

They should make a DLC where Echika wears a micro bikini

>>23507242
it looks like shit and so does he

>>23507243
Echika and Forte in matching micro bikinis

>>23507245
You're just jealous he gets to date Sakura-chan.

>>23507250
I hate Sakura.

>>23507250
i dont even know who that is

>Start map
>Everything tries to kill Akira
>He runs out of EN and SP while finishing the turn at near death
What is it about Reideen that makes everything want to kill him?

>>23507248
What about Anina as well?

>>23507261
They are scared of the god voice

>>23507224
Cybuster has Cyflash, cheap Akashic Buster and Cosmic Nova. What does she have?

I mean, I'd only begin to consider buying the DLC if she has Engetsu Sappo.

>>23507178
IIRC, in the Project X Zone games, Ogami managed to make Aura blush. She's an A.I.
>>23507207
We'd also get Mirage's 14 year old aunt.

>>23507197
>Fuck you bandai.

Just be happy you're not a Digifag and have to deal with fucking Saban tier dubbing names to this very fucking day

>>23507253
This is Sakura, whom the series is named after.

>>23507267
The best part of Project X Zone was in 2 when Sagata Sanshiro and Sakura had bits together referencing their old sakua war sagata commercials.

>>23507276
I dont care, didnt use her either

>>23507192
>didn't want to reuse it out of respect

Wait is that why the replacement song was called Respect? Lol. I found a DVD rip so it's all fine now. Who needs bluray quality.

Fucking I cant find Kamen Rider W seeds though I thought thatd be easy to find.

>>23507285
Its kind of annoying that Kaiser Gridknight doesn't do what SKL Wing Cross does in UX and share all skills between pilots. It sort of discourages you from teaching anything other than SP Up/SP Regen to Gauma.

>>23507250
If anon isn't, will once you know that Ogami gets to have THIRTEEN WOMEN AT ONCE by game 4.

>>23507288
It's not that bad, I can just dump all of Gauma's team's SP on the turn I feel like ending the map and just combine and get a free refill and use like, 4 Burning Grid Rex Roars in one turn

>>23507241
Ple copied a few techniques in the cutscenes though

>>23507241
>>23507302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M61oa3tOsL8

>>23507294
When you're on Expert and higher level skills eat 5+ parts, I don't really want to be wasting skill parts if I can avoid it.

It was my gut feeling with such a Melee bias early on that it wasn't worth trying to do something else with him. It's not like the Epyon is good in D either, though. I could put him in Sandrock, I guess. Zero System gives Heat Rod less damage than Maganac Squad. Also, Heat Shotels are a better C than Epyon's Beam Saber. They couldn't even give that. Sandrock is cheaper to upgrade too, and 3 parts. That's the main thing that annoys me about Epyon. Am I really gonna spend 380k for a fucking 1-3 5k ATK when I can spend 100k less on Sandrock and do more damage? Epyon might have good base stats and it's really spammable, but I dunno.

>>23507314
if you're on expert you just don't buy SP Up anyways because it's not worth it and Attacker is a much better value purchase

>>23507319
Everyone has the same super ace bonus

>>23507321
I meant to buy 1 level on everybody since that's cheap enough but I kept forgetting and never got around to it.

>>23507017
He doesn't. They might've had B forms with a knife earlier in development but they shitcanned it and left his ace bonus as-is instead of being something decently-substantial like RNG, SKL, and EVA+15 and Freya gives a 50% bonus instead.

>>23507282
I think that was just a coincidence.

>>23507321
And I still wouldn't be shelling out Attacker on Gauma until everyone else has it and whatever it is they need.

>>23507326
Attacker is probably as or more efficient than buying weapon upgrades in most circumstances, I'd say.

>>23507332
YOU ARE THE!

I don't give a shit about Macross. Are any of the units worth using?

you're telling me the girl called Mikumo "GUYNEVER" is not a lesbian?

>>23507199
Bring back Devo Getter with Arc when we get Gridman Universe. The whole "parallel world theory" thing might somehow fit in, and the Arc Team would be shocked at seeing a Benkei who names himself Musashi.

>>23507337
They're nice enough filler for the passive buffs. Also not reliant on beams which is nice against the L-Gaim people

>>23507330
In terms of cost
1-5 Bars: 45k for +250
Infight/Gunfight 4: 105k for +200/+1
6-10 Bars: 105k for +250
Attacker: 135k for 1.2x
11-15 Bars: 180k for +250
Infight/Gunfight 9: 413.25k for +250/+1

>>23506900
He's like the Char/Graham but worst personality.

>>23507343
Honestly yeah it would be a good fit, not to mention they would have to spice up Arc with something else when it comes back.

>>23507288
While it's a bummer, dynazenon is still a good boss killer because it doesn't care about resource at all.

>>23507348
Yeah, it's not exact because, MAPs for example, want every bit of power they can and can have significant gains if they cross a threshold of bypassing armor to start working off of damage multipliers. Proportionally, though, the increase to your damage multiplier from Attacker is going to be significantly larger than the damage increase you get, the first 5 upgrades are cheap enough that it's pretty close since you can access them a lot earlier but once they start being around the same price I think Attacker should end up a lot more damage. But that's all my gut mental math feeling.

>>23507350
>>23507343
>Takuma meets Devo Ryoma and is disappointed he's so small

>>23507199
>>23507343
>>23507350

Also this dialogue, Alexis apparently knew plenty about Emperor. It would be really interesting if they do try to pull up Devo, Arc and Gridman U in the next game.

I want Toei Ryoma back just so he can witness Clone Musashi's death and immediate replacement.

>>23507338
Does she ever fuck a guy? Can she fuck?

>>23507167
I wouldn't be surprised if Suletta becomes Domon's another favorite next to Shinn. Her spirit is that high.

>>23507364
She barely even talks to guys, she's basically a non-character for most of the show. It's possible Roid fucked her while she was under his control though

>>23507359
Well it is a teenager version of his father, an alternate one at that but their interactions would be really funny indeed.

>>23507362
Didn't Toei Ryo took his death the hardest alongside Michuru? He would end up traumatized I guess.
It is funny that Noir team are clones and yet they do reference the Toei team quite a lot.

>>23507361
Devolution was great as DLC because I can't see the "IT'S A SIMULATION" plot working without Gridman and maybe Mega Man Battle Network.

Well that seemed like a good use of money, then.

>>23506900
>What the fuck was the need for such nonsense?
If you're trying to pretend to be somebody else, it makes sense to dodge people who would actually know you

>>23507372
I'm sure Kamui and young Hayato would be entertaining too. Really hope they decide to bring Devo back to pair it with Gridman Universe

>>23507359
>Devo Ryo picks a fight with him on the spot
>both reach complete understanding with one another afterwards
>Devo Hayato meets his Arc counterpart
>asks why he has adoption papers set up

Do all three of the getter arc pilots benefit from each other's ace bonuses or is it solely the main pilot?

>>23507381
Jet Jaguar fucking rocks

>>23507379
Digimon actually might work
Especially something like Savers or Xros Wars

>>23507355
8000 HP
1880 Armor
149 Def

200 CQB
6000 Power

(150+200)/200 * 6000 = 10500
(150+149)/200 * 1880 = 2810.6
10500 - 2810.6 = 7689.4
7689.4 x 1.2 = 9227.28 or ~9227 damage

Now
9227.28 + 2810.6 = 12037.88
12037.88 * 200/(150+200) = 6879.36

So Attacker was equivalent to adding roughly ~880 Power. Of course, if the ratio of attack to defense is small, then you'd get more out of weapons/infight/gunfight.

>>23507394
>Jet Jaguar fucking rocks
I'm still really early on, so he hasn't done much yet, but I keep fielding him because I like him. So far he still just has his default attacks. Which aren't anything special, although him coming with a repair option has kept him useful even if he hasn't gotten a lot of kills. This was a pretty big buff in stats, though. When does he start getting more attacks or abilities?

>>23507392
I feel like there's a lot they could do if they paired the two of them together. Devo Ryoma in 30 was lacking confidence or something like that and having Ryoma be a legendary figure in the Arc timeline could work with that

>>23507404
Jet Jaguar gets a minor stat buff in Chapter 3 on a side mission and his real finisher very late into the game. If you really want to leverage JJ's talents, teach him Support Attack, Enhance Attack, Morale Break and Morale Limit Break. It gets really dumb when you're peeling off up to 18 Morale per support attack.

>>23507379
Gridman, Build Divers and Zegapain would all pair well with it. I think you'd just have to commit to another big parallel world game. Which is fine, as long as it feels more purposeful than Z2, Z3 or V.

>>23507404
he's more of a utility unit in my experience. The analyze debuff is cool, repair is great. I'm only on late chapter 2 so I assume he gets his day in the sun later

>>23507404
He doesn't get any new attacks until basically the end of the game, but he does get another all-around stat boost on A Warning of the Future when he gets upgraded with Combattler parts. With all his upgrades he's about as dodgy and tanky as everyone else, but his damage output will still be extremely low. You can more or less fix this by doing the simulator battle sidequest and giving him the Extra Arms S you get from that, which will lock his Lance at 7000 power.

>>23507405
Not to mention it would be hilarious if Takuma would act like a brother for an alternate version of his father, probably the other two members as well. also the fake emperor fight would fit quite well for Arc's plot.

>>23507379
Zegapain would work I think. Hell, I think you could sort of work ReRise into working with it too.

>>23507404
I'm just using him as a support, personally. I slapped Maintenance Skill on him and gave him an A-Adapter, an External Resupply Device and a consumable SP restoration item. He's a portable Yuri Mart

>>23507379
>>23507418
Yeah honestly the only viable way I think they could pull off Build Divers, maybe it would be another virtual on situation like back in Alpha 3.

>>23507404
hes meant to be a support, use him for his aura, cheap analyze and to finish of small enemies

There's an extra arms S in the game?
I only got the normal one and by postgame I had only fronts available

>Amuro actually alludes the Shangri-La kids at one point
Weird to have Judau sit out.


>>23507423
Re:Rise literally has a plot device that makes the Gunpla real. I think you could do all kinds of stuff with that in a crossover setting. Let alone just saying "They used Sounderous to open a portal to GBN and bring the cast to the real world" or something.

>>23507418
ReRise also took place on a real planet outside the solar system, so they could slot it in without being bound too hard to the digital world

>>23507432
Well Haman still died, so Judau probably left after being tired of the earth federation, even more so than regular UC

>>23507430
You get Extra Arms S from doing one of those NOAH Brand challenges and shooting down everyone. It's either the first or second challenge that Seivas makes. You just have to kill everyone before you shoot down his Stella.

>>23507432
>Amuro actually alludes the Shangri-La kids at one point
>Weird to have Judau sit out.

Perhaps he just didn't wanted to involve then in more conflict? They defeated Haman so most likely fucked off to space.

>>23507432
>Weird to have Judau sit out.
ZZ is just not very popular

>>23507439
Weird, I'm fairly sure I did all of them and killed everything in all of them.
I do remember there was one where he rushed forward before everyone else so I might have killed him first in that one.

>>23507447
This is not a sane thing to complain about regarding Super Robot Wars. Fucking J-Decker got into the 30th anniversary hallmark game.

>>23507430
iirc, you get it from one of NOAHS challenge stages in Chapter 5.

The objective is to shoot down Sistis but if you shoot down everybody else first and then Sistis, you get it from Otaki.

I gave it to Chuchu and now she's one shotting Aura Battlers and Heavy Metals without a care for counterattacks.

>>23507449
You must've. If you kill everyone. Otaki chimes in and congratulates you and gives you the Extra Arms S on one and the Otaki Masterpiece (Or whatever its called) on the other

>>23507451
>Fucking J-Decker got into the 30th anniversary hallmark game.
Isn't J-Decker massive in Korea?

>>23507452
>>23507455
Yea I only got Otaki's Masterpiece

>>23507456
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/20060179/#q20061103
-Mogami says that requests for Braves remained high with SRW V, X, and T. He had heard that J-Decker was extremely popular in Korea, so he went with that series next.

>>23507456
Koreans love J-Decker and farts. You'd know this if you watched Metal Cardbot or Miniforce.

When do I get other gold missions, I did the first two. I would like to recruit imouto soon

>>23507461
The final quest in the chain is only available in chapter 6 onwards.
They had no off battle dialogue though.

>>23507167
I really hope she and Miorine will do the love love tenkyoken someday.

>>23507462
>chapter 6
unfortunate, I planned on taking my time doing the dlc fun missions and such now that I got bob and rebuild

>Henken mentioned as being alive and dating Emma

Radish chads vindicated.

>>23507463
there'd have to be some love in that relationship

>>23507485
Well, they're Ferdinand and Miranda in wfm afterall.

I hate to really keep rubbing this in but goddamn the Wing characters look weird. Sai Saici is bigger than they are.

>>23507490
Pretty sure most Gundam protags are short. Probably because most of them are teenagers aside from Domon or CCA Amuro.

Kaiser Gridknight can be combined without being next to each other? Man, new players keep getting spoiled.

>>23507451
sure but J-decker doesnt have to compete for a spot with like 15 other gundam shows which are more popular

>>23507494
The problem is they don't look short. They look weird.

Baby don't hurt me...

>>23507488
dont reply to drool

>1068 reviews already in steam

This will surpass srw 30 very soon

>>23506979
>>23506985
An admitted long shot, but it'd be fun to see
I'd imagine the Bentenmaru would get some busted Electronic Warfare ability that pops Disrupt + Analyze for a turn

>>23507490
Aren't the boys just high schollers?

>>23506979
If only. I want heavy bridge jargon.

>>23507499
That's fine, I just wanted to post that.

>>23507485
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSzOqcRo1C8
Unironically, there is more love and trust in this scene than any Gundam couple has ever gotten except Garrod and Tiffa.

>>23507498
This 14 year old is a menace

I just desperately want to have Turn A and Ideon in SRW again
Preferably in the same game

>>23507506
>Aren't the boys just high schollers?

Them and about a good third to half the rest of the cast. They look out of scale. Even next to Echika they look wrong.

>>23507495
Just be careful that the combined unit will appear back where Gridknight is.

>>23507447
They definitely wanted Zeta/ZZ/CCA to be a trio for a long time. Even having Kamille and Judau show up GC/XO and OE, both of which take place during the OYW, for no reason. I guess now ZZ is probably only show up occasionally when they feel including it from now on.

We really do need Gundam X to come back

>>23507498
I can teach her...

>>23507512
And this is a 3 year old.

>>23507520
Gundam X has a huge devastating beam rifle so I'm all for it.

>>23507511
Garrod and Tiffa are my favorite too since I was a kid 2bh.

>>23507490
>>23507494
The scaling.

>>23507525
How tall is Noin?

I think some of the event triggers for Macross music are somewhat bugged, since it defaults to the base version instead of the Premium Sound equivalent sometimes.

>>23507528
Meant to post this collage, but Noin is apparently 165cm.

>>23507530
Aren't there some songs that are in the base game but not the premium pack?

>>23507531
So Relena just attracted to his craziness...

I hope he'll be in the next game with the GQuuuuuuX cast.

>>23507404
You give him support attack lv4 and bully boss to oblivion

>>23507532
Yeah, but the first opening is one that's in both.

>>23507534
She seems like the kind of girl who wants a boy she can dress up like a doll, which in spite of everything Heero fits to a T.

>>23507145
If we got Venus A anyways from Kaiser Jun's is a copypaste anyways

So this is a retarded question but how do supports work? Sometimes I'll see a little SUPPORT-1 or 2 over a character so is it just a matter of parking them next to each other? because sometimes it doesn't seem to tick

>>23507550
support attacks can only be used by units that have actions unspent that turn

>>23507145
Jun even fought in the movie. She did poorly but still. Getting real sick of you short changing the dynamic shit, game.

>>23507552
ah, so that's the rub. thanks for the clarity.

>>23507537
With all of its timeloop bullshit and it's "just move on from Eva bro" messaging, it'd actually fit in well with GQ

>>23507556
Funny thing about Sayaka and Jun being supports in Y is that they didn't even get that in T or 30.

>>23507447
I want ZZ and Unicorn in the same game again for the Marida/Purus interactions.

>>23507564
Didn't V also have Mineva wanting to cuck Banana for Judau?

>>23507511
That scene is really good yeah, you can say a lot of things about the gwitch but the romance was really good

>>23507561
>>23507552
>>23507550
The supporter also has to be able to reach the terrain the other character is on. A flyer might have to land to get supported sometimes, that kind of thing

>>23507550
>>23507552
Following up on this, say you have Cross and Chuchu next to Koji, Cross has one Support Attack left, Chuchu has two (both shown when selected)
You select Koji to attack something with Turbo Smasher Punch, at the bottom there will be an option for the Support, with who it is (in this case Cross or Chuchu) to the right
You can change the Support Attack to and the Support Attack-er with that option (Cross and Chuchu can only use an attack that's in range, with one having more range than the other)
When you attack, you have Turbo Smasher Punch first, then the enemy attack, then the Support Attack

Hayate's a lot less shitty once he gets the Lildrakens

>>23507556
I want all four of them to get Kaiser/Emperor G level upgrades.

>>23507519
You could see in real time how Judau became irrelevant and it just became the Amuro and Kamille show

>>23507575
remember to thank Jesus Yamato for somehow fixing up Hayate''s VF with them in like 30 minutes

>>23507577
Which is weird, because V having the Purus helping save Marida feels like such an obvious layup you'd think they'd want it around more often - but Unicorn was phased out shockingly quickly all things considered.

>>23507537
I hope Gqux debuts in DD

>>23507575
It's like a 200 attack power bonus. Even with Gunfight L9 he's at 6850 when units like Suzaku are at 7450.

>>23507590
>it gets in and finally advances the IBO plot
>Mika doesn't understand a single word this loud red dog is saying

>>23507590
When will they localize that?

>>23507603
Probably never. I think it's a little too late for that.

>>23507149
It IS lawsuits. Leiji didn't actually work on the project since the start, so Yoshinobu Nishizaki (producer of the Yamato anime) managed to get the rights from Matsumoto due to a court decision in the early 00s. That's why even before that the crossovers of Yamato with other Matsumoto series were always limited. There was already litigation behind the scenes.

>At the beginning of the 21st century, Earth is attacked by mysterious aliens called the Rajendora. Their missiles bombard the planet with radioactive contamination, and humans face extinction in just one year.

>One day, the attack suddenly stops. The Rajendorans attacked the Earth with the intention of taking it over, but they have withdrawn their hand because of the advanced state of global radioactive pollution. The surface of the Earth is covered in boiling magma and all living things have disappeared. Earthlings can only wait for the slow death of extinction.

>One day, an answer is found in the wreckage of an alien spaceship that makes an emergency landing on the surface of Mars. The ship came from the planet Iscandar in a solar system 20,000 light-years away. One of the Iscandarians lived long enough to leave a message for Earth to try and reach Iscandar, then he died. The scientists construct an Asteroid Ship with an engine based on the Iscandar ship. This ship is named Yamato.

This was a story draft and design from before Matsumoto joined.

Although some of the set up is very similar to the final product, the aliens wouldn't be very relevant. Most of the conflict was going to be within the ship's own crew, with the Rajendoras only facing the Yamato directly at the end (although they face leftover automated forces before), when they return with the device to eliminate radiation.

Matsumoto joining the project was what changed the focus to fighting against Gamillas. Also, the entire cast was only prepared after he joined.

>>23507589
Marida doesnt get that much to do in V sadly, I was kinda dissapointed with that, although they did a good job with riddhe

>>23507149
It's really cute how you think creators got to own all their creations. Never lose that sense of innocence.

>>23507288
Dynazenon on its own is still insanely busted and I use them separately until it's time to erase some bosses

>>23507348
Attacker's a lot better value than the 6-10 bars cause 20% of even a 4k attack is already +800

Is it weird that I don't really feel like this SRW was that eventful?
Discussion around it has been pretty tame. I want to say "boring" but that's way too strong a word to describe how I feel about it.
I feel like I've just "been here before" with Y.

>>23507590
It'd already be there if they were rushing its debut for DD. It's 100% being kept for console SRW like G-Witch was.

>>23507622
that's only how attacker works in MX where its applied to base damage, every other game it's final damage
if with 4000 damage your attack scratches a boss for 1000 damage it only becomes 1200 with attacker

>>23507263
No cows

>>23507600
Mika should kill Machu and just adopt Nyan into Tekkadan

>>23507606
Forgot the image.

>>23507626
I mean would rather everyone call the game fucking garbage like with T and 30?

>>23507626
People like Y and are enjoying the ride

>>23507629
Yeah, it's not exact, but it's still a good idea of it since we're mostly improving powerful attacks to begin with, with a note that if you're trying to MAP then you tend to want more base damage. But it hardly matters since you're gonna take Attacker and these things anyway. As a general rule:
>5 Upgrades > Attacker > Gun/Infight Lv 4 > rest of your upgrades > Gun/Infight maxed

>>23507627
it took around a year for Freedom to get into DD, its to early for Gqx, give it a few months and well see

>>23507567
>>23507511
Even Garrod actually see this from the crossover. He knows what's up

>>23507645
DD still had to finish the SEED Destiny's story last year. Anime like Bravern, Evil Lord of an Intergalactic Empire! and Grendizer U got much more quickly into DD.

>>23507409
For all the times we've memed on him for wanting a girl that could be a mother to him, it's funny seeing Char start acting like a dad in the game

>>23507626
It has flaws, yes, and there is always debacle about the series included, but Y got one very important thing right and that is gameplay, there is more variation on objectives, terrain matters again (a little), difficulty levels are actually challenging without being bullshit like AP.

Besides, I wouldn't call it 'not eventful' when pretty much all threads since release broke the 1k post count and full image limit. This game probably raised traffic on /m/ by itself, and I wished 4stats wasn't broken right now so I could see some activity graphs.

>>23507629
Its a bigger increase than that if you're doing low damage because of a barrier

>>23507626
are you talking about the games or the threads?
you don't see in depth discussion when people are still playing the game, they come later

>>23507567
There's good reason why people got super annoyed when the execs tried to turn them being married in the ending into something more ambiguous and then immediately had to walk it back to the original version. The relationship was built really well.

>>23507626
It's much less ambitious than 30 was, but also a lot more coherent. I'm into Chapter 6 now and it's a lot more positive of an experience so far.

Pros:
>Actual difficulty for the first time in a long time
>Plot and setting feel much more coherent
>Animators getting better at CG models
>Branching/altered stages feels better implemented
>special system/ability animations still play, even if will is maxed out at the start of a battle
>Original cast and mecha is a bit more impressive than 30's

Cons:
>QOL stuff missing, like being able to mass cast spirit commands
>New UI makes it hard to tell what enemies you're casting spirits like Analyze on
>Music selection gets worse and worse
>Lack of squad/twin/tri system makes it hard to balance a big roster

The plot being a big step up from 30's helps. 30 had all that cool-sounding stuff in its backstory, but the actual plot of the game felt lacking. If they patch in some of the missing features or tinker with the UI a little, that'd amend a lot of my gripes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6FuIPW2L-8&
This is my favorite song in D so far. It's really good.

>>23507674
>New UI makes it hard to tell what enemies you're casting spirits like Analyze on
you can still cast analyze the old way

>>23507680
nah all that does is cut you back to the map
you can't go back to a menu and see who's piloting the units you're casting it on
>>23507674
you CAN mass cast spirits but the problem is that it's slow and counter intuitive to how it was, you have to press a button on the spirit menu and that allows you to mass select them with a different button, then you press the first button again to cast them back to back
since the spirit window doesn't close I just cast them 1 by 1 because it was unironically faster

>>23507674
>>Lack of squad/twin/tri system makes it hard to balance a big roster
Boy ain't that the truth. I really want to deploy the whole rabbit team but then you need other units and it just becomes harder to justify

>>23507691
Yeah having an average of like 15 deploys is still a problem, especially when you have a lot of non-protagonist units you want to use but don't get much of a chance to.

>>23507686
>since the spirit window doesn't close I just cast them 1 by 1 because it was unironically faster
lol yeah, I don't know why it can't be mass-cast with A/circle

>>23507686
>>23507680
I meant the ability to cast, say, Accel on everyone who has it. If you can do it, I can't for the life of me figure it out. It used to be you could just search for people with it, then click them all off on a list and then everyone would cast Accel.

It definitely takes too many button presses to cast a bunch of spirts at once on a single pilot though.

>>23507691
thats the real problem with non-squad games and supporting characters, there is no real reason to deploy Tamaki or Suruga over Show or Suletta unless you wanna make the game harder for you

>>23507700
I didn't know you can do this in the first place

>>23507701
it's a game with literal hundreds of stage. you can use seed gundams in stages with physical enemies and then the rabbits on enemies with lots of ranged attacks, etc.

>V-X-(Librasta)T
>NOAH(s)
His presence is looming

>>23507705
It was a standard feature from at least Z onward.

I always use my personal faves the most, even if it means having half a dozen Braves sortied.

>>23507705
Different units have different niches, but most rabbits are just mediocre at best, everyone of them has another unit in the game who does exactly what they do but better except for izuru and kei

>>23507713
Kei is worse because she's replaced by something that doesn't even take up a deployment slot

>>23507691
>>23507674
Every game since like V showers you in so many resources and have catch up mechanics that you can easily raise two full teams worth of units with no issue whatsoever. Hell that's why the final maps give you 24/30 deploys respectively.

>>23507674
>>Lack of squad/twin/tri system makes it hard to balance a big roster

I think this might be what Y was "missing". Sine sort of squad or assist system is needed because otherwise we just end up using flagship units every stage.
The supporting cast needs more function going forward to give these games even more focus on the gameplay.
They could do something like "If (x) unit is used as a supporting attacker in a squad, it gives (x) amount of EN at the end of combat" or something like that.

>>23507626
I wish I could talk more about it but I’m still only in chapter 2. I’m enjoying it despite all the doomposting before the game dropped that thankfully went away once people started playing it

>>23507717
sure but its easier to justify a slot for a medicore unit if its a support unit, Jet Jaguar is mediocre at best in combat but you dont really care since you dont want him for that

>>23507626
A lot of us are still playing through it, give it time. Hard to have too many in-depth discussions when people’s progress is still so varied.

>>23507724
Jet Jaguar's mediocre damage output pre Extra Arms is irrelevant when the fucker casually makes enemies take like ~15% more damage as long as he takes part in the battle.

>>23507724
you wouldn't be saying that if you were in range of JJ's mighty 10000 damage PP

>>23507722
More ways to get the player to use pairs and characters who have relationships beyond the odd handful who do get a combo. Arad gets pretty nice ace bonus that helps his squad out but I also don't want to field Arad because I have enough issue finding room for the Delta squad members I actually want

>>23507717
>amazing support spirit set with rare main pilot Resupply
>better part of Ropet for free on turn 1
>Jamming + stackable aura
>good enough damage to clean stuff up with Rabbit Formation, which you can unlock really fast
You don't know what you're talking about.

>>23507722
Twin system would place this game into legendary status for me.

>>23507730
>asually makes enemies take like ~15% more damage as long as he takes part in the battle
yeah thats what I said

>>23507737
That's anything but mediocre. JJ is nuts.

>>23507738
if it didnt give analyze on hit he wouldnt be, which is what I said, hes a support unit, read man

>>23507717
She has saved my ass in more maps than I can count with her aura (I even gave her a part that gives commander aura lvl4 that stacks with her own). She's a godsend in Expert!

>>23507733
I literally beat the game on expert and by the end of the game I was just dragging her useless ass along because I was too invested in her already.
Evasion without spirits basically doesn't exist in endgame, and spamming Ropet becomes trivial as soon as Echika gets some SP recovery support.
>good enough damage
The fuck it is.
She doesn't even have a damage spirit or a guaranteed accuracy spirit.

>>23507720
It's a matter of having to arbitrarily choose people when, in past games, I had a lot more freedom to use people that weren't just protagonists.

>>23507701
>Tamaki

aside from the delicious shortstack curves in her cut-in?

The rabbit team sucks total ass other than Izuru.

>>23507748
> I had a lot more freedom to use people that weren't just protagonists.
There is nothing in Y or any of the other singles games "forcing" you to just use protagonists. That's something you're doing to yourself.

>>23507749
i means sure, but we where talking about gameplay, nothing stops you from fielding a bad team if its characters you like

>>23507754
>>23507701
Suruga is like the only pilot in Y with innate Support Attack 3 and Freichutz has 5k base power even if its expensive at 90EN a shot. He's up there with the likes of Chuchu, Mirage and Cross/Forte for low effort/high return support attackers.

>>23507749
>>23507754
Wasn't Tamaki good in 30? Didn't really used her as much that one, but I get that game was easier anyway.

>>23507745
Evasion tanking with focus is still somewhat possible even in the final showdowns. For me it only stops working in the literal final stage with those 70 boss units, I have no idea how you can survive enemy phase in that stage without spamming flash and persist.

>>23507753
You're intentionally handicapping yourself if you're using non-protagonists.

>>23507753
Exactly this, I've been fielding people like Chuchu, Rain, Chibodee, Allenby and Bob as much as I want with no real problems

I usually field at least one other valk pilot with Hayate as well and have been using L gaim side cast too

>>23507757
no, she was bad in 30 too, all the rabbits are generally bad aside from Izuru if you care about tier lists

>>23507758
For me it was only with very specific exceptions like Suzaku leveraging his 1S size alongside his final 80% evade bonus from passives alone or Heero at the absolute peak of morale, with Agent and Potential both active, or Forte with 15 bars on mobility, a Haro and Master NINJA

Ace Chuchu during enemy phase is just chef's kiss. She's one of the few i have 15-barred.

>>23507753
Except for the mid-mission spawns that will punish you for not having certain protags deployed. Or the fact you're being given an arbitrarily low number of characters to use per map in a huge roster.

People that argue in favor of no pairs/squads and low deploy limits need to admit they just fucking hate the game and want every mission over with as fast as possible.

>>23507768
I'm surprised the shitbox she's in can survive more than 3 attacks

>>23507761
Anyone who can reach between 5.5 and 6k with 5 bars can be considered acceptable since that's where a lot of reals end up dicking around at for most of the game. You can even aim a little lower for support attackers since they deal most of their damage through other means.
Some side characters also have very strong ace bonuses as well.

>>23507774
You shouldn't have to do that though. Back when they had squads, you could use a little bit of everyone.

>>23507772
When you like her you'll make it work. I gave her guard just in case and i have persist ready as assist.

>Assist joins at the start of stage
>no way to change Assists during deployment
who okayed this

>>23507674
>>23507722
The lack of any sort of squad system is the most baffling thing for the last few games. The best games in the franchise almost all had some kind of squad or pair system. Alpha 3 was the most epic (as in the classic use of the word, not "le epic") game in the franchise because you felt like you had an actual army of robots at your command in every stage. The scale of the battle felt immense, and put the "Wars" part of the title in play.

Especially if you're going to keep giving us series like MJP or Macross Delta where they just drop 5 or 6 units in your lap all at once, where pretty much all of them will sit on the bench because why the FUCK would I use them instead of any number of named characters?

30 in particular DESPERATELY needed an Alpha 3-style squad system. MJP, Victory, GunxSword, all the many, many UC units, etc. Not to mention when the DLC dropped. Such a huge majority of the cast just sits there the whole game. I'm not ever gonna field a Gunblaster by itself if I have deployment slots.

But if there was an Alpha 3 squad system? Or even a Z style one? I could split the Rabbits into two squads and use all of them every stage. I could have the girls in Victory backing up Uso, and spread them into squads with other characters. I could put all three of the Rayearth girls in a squad together, and then throw Lantis in there as their fourth when I get him. Etc, etc.

>>23507626
Honestly, going by videos and what I've seen of the dificulty, that area, plus the story has been a huge upgrade compared to past games. The big issue so far is animation quality still being an issue, and the new style for sprites looking terrible.

>>23507770
>Or the fact you're being given an arbitrarily low number of characters to use per map in a huge roster.
It's not really arbitrary, the unit counts in this are too damn high even, modern SRW eclipses just about any other big SRPG in this regard. We need stacking units.

Z or Alpha 3 squads are bad, I don't want to have regular 30 plus minute long intermissions making sure everything is finetuned to my playstyle, only to have to do it again next stage because someone joined, left, or is a fucking retard who's breaking my squads and force deploys.
PU or Twins is as far as it should go, 42/44 deployment slots should be enough to satisfy everyone.

>>23507787
>We need stacking units.
OE truly was ahead of its time

>>23507770
>People that argue in favor of no pairs/squads and low deploy limits need to admit they just fucking hate the game and want every mission over with as fast as possible.
the thing with squad games is that the devs think they have to be cute and it needs a gimmick to differentiate it from normal play and i never liked a single one of them.
>K rewarding solo units more with chain attack
>L-BX removing parts entirely, and essentially gives everyone haro and chogokin z by the endgame
>Z3 is a hybrid between alpha's platoon and og's pair unit and it comes with proto exc and interacts weird with ALL attacks (they fixed the latter in tengoku at least)
maybe 2nd OG is the best one but MD has veeery low deploy count anyway so it's moot.

>>23507791
They don't really do the leaving thing much any more, so that's figured out. Force deploy, you fix by carrying over their paired up unit, unless it's also force deployed, which is regrettably one instance where you have to break the pair, but that only matters if you have both of those units paired. Sadly I don't expect them to go back to a more strategic style of design but that also eliminates a lot of the more tedious parts associated with pair-up since things are a lot more rigid in modern SRW.

another point against squad games is that it generally just reward map attacks more because it ignores the whole mechanic entirely
like, they made this elaborate paper scissor rock balance with z1 squad and then they all die to one valor'd seven swell anyway

>>23507807
I think it's practically impossible to balance being able to deploy 30 units like this, not to mention it gets annoying moving all these units, doubling up on them is the perfect solution for it really, you can cut it down to 20 and still deploy 10 more units. Make map attacks weaker, remove ALLW. They can figure it out.

>>23507784
>>23507722
Tri/Squad Systems only give you the "illusion" of characters contributing when in reality the squaddies are nothing more than glorified spirit pools because you're going to be funneling most of your resources into the leaders anyway.
Pairs are the upper limit of where people can contribute and still feel like they matter.
>>23507794
Most of K's cast don't learn Chain Attack until 30-40 and even then the game has one of the most aggressive cases of dodge decay in the franchise, so if you can't one shot the target (ideally with Counter)), you're better off having a partner who can support defend you and soak up the damage.

>>23507807
Heero was my top ace in all my playthroughs of Alpha 3 because of that busted TBR LMAO

>>23507810
you have to make map attacks useless entirely because at the end of the day they still don't interact with the pair/squad system
ALL attack is fine, i think it's balanced well since Z1

>>23507626
It's a little boring and the missions feel a bit cookie cutter. I'd like to see a return to some of the old, more batshit missions. Glad for QoL but this is less a "step" in the right direction and more of a "pivot" in my opinion.

That said, I'm having a good time but there does need to be a better way to use some of these characters. Squads or teams or something.

>>23507784
Even though I knew it was coming, it's like "wow, another half a dozen units I won't use? awesome."

I'm sure there are about 10 majestic prince fans who are extremely hyped but there's no reason I'd want to use any of the shitty six. I don't want to use any of the macross pilots either since I know they borked hayate with the ace bonus.

>>23507787
Yeah this really is the play. I don't think they're going to straight up bring back squads but I feel like there's a way they could essentially make units function as equipables.

To be clear I don't want to fuck around with squadbuilding to make sure everyone has the same movement type/amount and that kind of bullshit. Just let me attach like emma in the mk. II to shoot a bazooka as the equivalent of a support attack when I have 120 morale or something.

>>23507794
ugh man chain attacks

>>23507813
Alpha 3 generally ends wihen Banpreios joins in stage 44, or 35 if you're on Serena or Cobray's route.

>>23507815
maybe make map attacks not have the ALL affix. That would work for me desu.

>>23507815
I wouldn't say useless, just limit their range a lot more and make sure they're not easy to spam and that can still make them feel useful while not dominant.

>>23507750
What is Rose 3 even good for?

>>23507810
They should stop trying to increase the deploy cap up to 24-30 when you spend 80% of the game with just 15 units. It was my biggest petpeeve with Hakai and while its true that 30/Y have fronts, I instinctively don't like doing grind maps and will do everything in my power to avoid doing them.

>>23507822
Eye candy. She looks great!

>>23507822
On paper it's a dodgy real with lots of bulk.
In practice it's a KMF in every single aspect except magnitudes worse other than M size for damage, which doesn't matter when its weapons are so bad, and it's getting hit a lot more often

>>23507822
cheerbot just like mirage

>>23507817
So what if Hayate has a meme ace bonus? That doesn't invalidate all of the good things about him or Arad/Mirage for that matter.

>chise thread
BASED AXIA

>>23507822
well, the issue is that if you include more than one, then you've gotta include them all and there's just no real use case for them.

Hell, contrast/compare stuff like the brain powerd or nadesico units. But even in this game, what's the use case for the rabbits versus some of the other teams like the wing boys, the shuffle alliance, the macross goobers, or even the zeta ladies (kamille is a girl's name after all).

>>23507830
Mirage still has cheap Flash and the best return for support attack damage in the game.

>>23507756
You can just park him duck back to the battleship and keep sniping after a resupply after he runs out anyhow
Or once you start rolling out Attacker, most stages don't last long enough for long range units to run out of juice

>>23507763
Blue 1's the only one thats straight outclassed. Tamaki can just run circles countering things with Extra Arms in 30 and that's fine, can't really afford to do that with anyone on Expert in Y until much later in the game so you'd have to play catchup after upgrading and getting some high end parts.

>>23507764
I'm deep in Ch6 and I haven't even pushed anyone but a few of the supers to 10 bars and with Disrupt and Focus up pretty much anyone dodges fine enough
Just get Instict to reduce the damage of the stray hits and don't leave them somewhere they'll get absolutely focus fired, but you don't generally need to worry about actually losing anyone
Hell half the time I park Kallen somewhere with Wall up she doesn't even take a hit and she's definitely not built for dodging

>>23507833
Both the Brain Powerd and Nadesico units are designed to huddle around each other and spam cheap, refilling and high-powered combo attacks. The Rabbits are more like the G Gundam units in that they do have a combo but it's not the main way they function. It's different. Plus modern SRW lets you use the combo without using them all anyway, and it's not like it's in any way convenient to get together for a 5 man combo.

>>23507854
>Dark skinned
I'd rather read NTR doujins.

>>23507858
I thought the point of Brains is barrier sharing in squads. They absolutely sucked in J.

>>23507674
>QOL stuff missing, like being able to mass cast spirit commands

Thats still there. Its just triangle instead of square for some reason.

>>23507874
They're basically J's funnel bots. Sure, sure, it's MAP attack spam, the game, I know.

oh Chise and Mina thought Master Asia was a woman because they only saw his ponytail

>Aerial Rebuild loses the cheap low will long range snipe move
Y really loves doing this

I love how much this game relentlessly shits on Wufei. Nobody gives even an ounce of consideration to his argument, it's just universally agreed he's out of his fucking mind.

It's weird how l-gaim robots look so ahead of its time but it still has that stupid core fighter motorbike

>>23507902
there's points in the game where he makes it clear he has no fucking idea what he even stands for himself, he's just talking for the love of the talk

>>23507905
You're a stupid core fighter motorbike.

>>23506862 (OP)
Software Sales (physical only)

1. [PS5] Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater – 603,585 / NEW
2. [PS5] Super Robot Wars Y – 260,532 / NEW
3. [NSW] Story of Seasons: Grand Bazaar – 46,586 / NEW
4. [NS2] Mario Kart World – 3,185 / NEW
5. [PS4] Super Robot Wars Y – 30,969 / NEW
6. [NS2] Story of Seasons: Grand Bazaar Nintendo Switch 2 Edition – 1,148 / NEW
7. [NS2] Kirby and the Forgotten Land – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Star-Crossed World – 1,174 / NEW
8. [NS2] Donkey Kong Bananza – 0,440 / 286,119
9. [PS5] Lost Soul Aside – 4 70,374 / NEW
10. [PS5] Minecraft – 7,344 / 3,989,908
11. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – 7,223 / 6,429,753
12. [NSW] Nintendo Switch Sports – 212 / 139,903
13. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons – 408 / 209,015
14. [NS2] Super Mario Party Jamboree – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Jamboree TV – 23 / 177
15. [NSW] Super Mario Party Jamboree –,388 / 1,379,550

>>23507906
Wasn't he also salty about being left in the dark about the Zero Requiem? I know Heero knew the truth about it, but don't know about the other Wing boys.

>>23507909
Y isn’t even on PS4, so I have no idea where you pulled these numbers from.

>>23507909
WE WON

>>23507916
They're fake.

>>23507909
>5. [PS4] Super Robot Wars Y – 30,969 / NEW

bait list, Y isn't on PS4, drool.

WZC > Strike Freedom > God > Rebuild > Destiny > Zeta > Nu

>>23507909
>>23507915
The correct numbers thus
https://www.famitsu.com/article/202509/51452

[PS5] Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater (Konami, 08/28/25) – 63,585 (New)
[NSW] Super Robot Wars Y (Bandai Namco, 08/28/25) – 60,532 (New)
[NSW] Story of Seasons: Grand Bazaar (Marvelous, 08/27/25) – 46,586 (New)
[SW2] Mario Kart World (Nintendo, 06/05/25) – 35,185 (1,655,926)
[PS5] Super Robot Wars Y (Bandai Namco, 08/28/25) – 30,969 (New)

Physical japanese copies only, SRW Y totals 91,501 retail copies sold as 4th of September, surprisingly more than MGS3 since it's not on Switch.

The picture on Steam sales is an approximated guess, so we don't know precise numbers on that, and nothing on PS5 and Switch international sales.

>>23507909
>>23507915
The correct numbers thus
https://www.famitsu.com/article/202509/51452

[PS5] Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater (Konami, 08/28/25) – 63,585 (New)
[NSW] Super Robot Wars Y (Bandai Namco, 08/28/25) – 60,532 (New)
[NSW] Story of Seasons: Grand Bazaar (Marvelous, 08/27/25) – 46,586 (New)
[SW2] Mario Kart World (Nintendo, 06/05/25) – 35,185 (1,655,926)
[PS5] Super Robot Wars Y (Bandai Namco, 08/28/25) – 30,969 (New)

Physical japanese copies only, SRW Y totals 91,501 retail copies sold until August 31, surprisingly more than MGS3 since it's not on Switch.

The picture on Steam sales is an approximated guess, so we don't know precise numbers on that, and nothing on PS5 and Switch international sales.

>>23507909
>>23507916
>>23507920
>>23507921
Sorry, forgot the post the link to the source.

https://www.gematsu.com/2025/09/famitsu-sales-8-25-25-8-31-25

>>23507937
>ignores the FACT that SRW Y didn't come out on the PS4

>>23507938
Also that the numbers aren’t even the same.

>>23507784
>30 in particular DESPERATELY needed an Alpha 3-style squad system. MJP, Victory, GunxSword, all the many, many UC units, etc.
Y is much worse in this regard. G-Gundam, Wing, Majestic Prince and Delta.

>>23507909
>>23507935
>[NSW] Super Robot Wars Y (Bandai Namco, 08/28/25) – 60,532 (New)
>[PS5] Super Robot Wars Y (Bandai Namco, 08/28/25) – 30,969 (New)

>[Steam] Super Robot Wars Y (Bandai Namco, 08/28/25) – 86.5k (51k - 121.9k)

So the Steam version beat both the physical versions of NSW and PS5?

>>23507943
we have no Steam data

>>23507942
A lot of the series in Y hover between 3 to 6 units so...

>I'll just do one quick mission before bed
>Code Geass finale

>>23507942
I do just wish they kept doing pairs
I like setting up teams and I end up using a bunch of shit I probably wouldn't have otherwise

>/m/: first SRW with yuri
>Suletta: I hope Elan likes what I am wearing for the date
>Suletta: I want to know more about Elan
>Suletta: I wonder what Elan is thinking about right now
>Suletta: I hope he's thinking about me

Tourist.

>Man, Arc sure has fallen off
>Get the Soldier Medallion and Takuma's ace
>Now it went from meh to OP

>>23507960
Did L not have any yuri with Iczer-1?

>>23507943
JAPANESE physical versions of NSW and PS5, yes, as was the case last week. Again, we don't know the numbers on international console sales. If we get optimist and say that Y sold ~214K copies, digital and physical, there is still room to grow due to time and digital PS5 and Switch international sales, so it's not out of reach to say that Y has sold 300K or more by now.

Incidentally, something interesting happen on player retention: while there was a slow falling of players during the week, which is expected for a single player game, it got up again for a bit less than 12K players peak on the weekend. Seems that people that bought Y on launch on Steam are sticking to it and playing the game on a constant basis. Guess Y does not give as much as a 'burn out' as 30 did, nor did Hollow Knight Silksong and releases affected it that much, if at all.

>>23507964
Kaiju Piece + SP Regen part is already enough for Arc to just go forever
I actually spread the kills out across all three forms so hard that they had almost 200 total before I got any of them aced

>Echika suddenly goes full DBZ Goku and Spirit Bombed an evil big monster
This is fucking stupid and I'm okay with it

If Aerial Rebuild is this good I can't imagine how busted Eri rebuild and Calibarn is gonna be in the next game that has WFM

>>23507964
I didnt read the skill properly and went through almost the entire game without the chosen child of getter buff

>>23507932
I think god is a lot more useful early because reaching hyper mode is trivial and domon has a cheap bullseye

>>23507979
All Suletta really wants is to trade either Vigor or Trust for something else.
>>23507969
Those can work if you're running Mikumo or have MLB 2 on everyone.

>>23507932
pretty fair list

>>23507984
Domon has a hard time reaching Hyper Mode before Mari/Freyja/Rank C roll in due to how tight morale gains are in Expert's early game. His accuracy is also somewhat sketchy for a while since no Focus/Bullseye.
He doesn't really come into his own until mid Chapter 2 and even then its just okay before Meikyo Shisui which is what really pushes him over the edge. +20 Melee/Skill and 1.1x on ace is very strong.

>>23507992
He's a pretty easy candidate for the Morale+(Atk) you get early
But besides being tanky Hyper Mode isn't all that strong until Meikyo Shishui is unlocked anyways

>>23507999
You could give him the first one given how badly he needs it. Alternatively, you can hand it over to Cross/Forte and combine that with the Ropet Scanner so they can quickly rocket up to high enough levels where NINJA's bonuses really kick in.

I like how Sai Saici realizes he's going full retard and swaps sides before he even gets a turn as an enemy

>>23508003
He was just trying to stop Wufei from going full retard

>>23508003
Dude folded as soon as he saw Domon. lol

Assuming that you're fielding every MC and we aren't accounting for secrets
Cross/Forte (1)
Akira (2)
Hyoma (3)
Show/Shion (4)
Daba (5)
Kamille/Amuro (7)
Domon (8)
Heero (9)
Shinn (10)
Suletta (11)
Koji (12)
Takuma (13)
Izuru (14)
Hayate (15)
Lelouch (16)
JJ (17)
Gauma/Gridknight (19)
>MC Level
Kira/Athrun/Kallen/Suzaku (23)

I don't know how much you get to use on the Accept Ending, but I understand that the Reject Ending lets you field 30 units. So that would probably be where Rain/Mirage/Allenby/Chuchu/whatever secrets you happened to unlock fit in.

Laying it out like this really does help to rein in spending

>>23508014
I forgot Tetsuya on the MC Level group. Which is exactly 24 people.

>>23508014
Bump Athrun out of there, he's barely better than a Wing boy who aren't all that good.

...C.C. were you not wearing pants this whole time?

>>23508017
Yeah, consider fielding eternal of you wanna use kira.

I also think Shinn and the Aura Battlers are on the weaker end. I can't comment on any of the Supers but I'm sure they're all fine. Lelouch can also probably be abandoned, it's just far too cumbersome to use Tactical Command, though he is a high level Commander. Oh, and Hayate is pretty mediocre too.

So? When can i get Mazin Emperor G in my team? Tetsuya really need a boost.

>>23508027
Lelouch is fine, its just that JJ and Purple are better

>>23508030
He just doesn't really offer anything you can't get anywhere else other than Tactical Command so it's the thing to look at as far as I'm concerned. His damage is actually a lot better off than 30 if my memory serves, he's fine for clean up but that's about it.

Is the Lancelot Albion Zero just straight-up better than the Sin? It has a MAP and all Sin has going for it is ~200 more attack on its finisher, at the cost of far worse mobility.

>>23508029
Chapter 5
>>23508032
Lelouch and C.C. have good supporty spirit lists together.
Other than that I basically never used the tactical commands though. His ace bonus giving morale out would've been nice if he was around in the very early game.

>>23508037
They slightly nerf sin because it'll have its armor later

>>23508038
Yeah, C.C. is the other thing. I miss him having Resolve though, he could clean stuff up with ExC and get a better position for Tactical Command. My main issue with it is you can't even use it after moving which means Lelouch will fall behind if he uses it. Really annoying.

>>23508038
>5
Jesus fucking...

>>23508037
sIN gets a chunky stat boost when you get the frame coats but that takes until chapter 4 to happen

I never noticed the bottom parts of CC's pilots outfit. Long sleeves and no pants is a weird combo I must say.

>>23508051
>Long sleeves and no pants is a weird combo I must say.

isn't that the standard outfit from that shitty Strike Witches anime?

>>23508018
>>23508051
Lmao we thought the exact same thing

>>23508058
>isn't that the standard outfit from that shitty Strike Witches anime?
Picked up

>>23508051
Believe it or not, that's Clovis Vi Britannia legacy. Yes, Lelouch very first kill was the designer of these lewd suits, exclusively for female KMF pilots.

>>23508014
>>23508015
If we factor in the DLC, then that gives us:
Kid (25)
Shotaro (26)
Roger (27)
Noir Ryoma (28)
Jeeg (29)
Da-Garn (30)

Meaning that you can field only MCs if you want (and stretch the definition to include "MC Level" folks).

>>23508014
Doesnt Dynazenon combin with Gridknight though?

>>23508003
Well to be fair would you want to be known as the other chinese retard?

>>23508080
You need both deployed to do that

When do I get the frame coats for Kallen and Suzaku? The Geass plot is already over

>>23508090
Random side mission to go kick Shalio's ass again

>>23508090
Chapter 4,

But is there really no way to remove this absurd dark filter to prevent epilepsy seizures ? It's fine that it's enabled by default, but they need to give me a way to disable it.

>>23508113
afaik no
it sucks because they censored thunderbolt breaker too. let's be real, no 10 years old kids are playing this game.

>tfw Argento Soma is never making it in
https://youtu.be/qcwTK_8FkD0?si=-5mDqTTSpiBGn_D3

>>23508119
Its being overly cautious in stupid places
Like the flash whenever the MC does their ninja shit is worse than anything going on in Red 5's attacks and those are all dimmed to shit

>>23507176
Kinda a different thing there though. A better comparison will have to be how the upcoming Braiger, Fuuto Pi and Big O cast interacts with the cast since they are the ones who are the direct equivalent to 30's Sakura Wars characters.

Is this a secret unit or I will always get it eventually?

If you don't get Bellvine in Ch5 Ciela just dumps it on Shion like the third main mission of Ch6

>>23507674
>>23507691
I think it's been mentioned a few times in older threads that japanese fans apparently hate the squad and pair systems.

>>23508113
It's literally ilegal in Japan to not have those

>>23508151
It’s a secret. Kill kaiju that aren’t just part of mobs with Dynazenon or Kaiser Gridknight when they show up and make sure you do side missions.

>>23508151
Secret

>>23508157
I always have the feeling that Bandai uses the excuse of "our fans hate this or that" to remove what is hard to do and there is no real market analysis behind it. SRW OG's twin system is the best system in the entire saga.

>>23508170
The problem with the twin system is that it needs a LOT of units to truly work, and in the HD era that would mean either even more reused sprites or worse looking ones

>>23508172
I really don't think that's a problem at all, there is more than enough units in Y or 30 for that.

>>23508172
Y definitely has more units than OG already.

>>23507757
Tamaki was only good with the Extra Arms you could buy for 20k MXP, so no, not really.

>>23508172
A less powerful system was used in handheld console games like K-L. I think the units we have in Y, even without DLC, are already enough to allow for the use of some kind of similar system. Obviously, these systems need to be programmed and tested, which they don't have to do with the 1v1 system.

>Guel: Marry me
Woah, what a creepy guy. Please don't start stalking us.

>>23508187
Reminder that no one looks at Miorine negatively even though she is forcing Suletta into a situation where she is given no choice.

In hindsight, G-Witch is truly shitty writing. I think it's one of Okouchi's worst works overall, saved only by the fact that the Yurifags are desperate for everything.

Suletta should have challenged Guel fully aware of what she was getting herself into. There are so many morally wrong things about that show.

>>23508151
It's a secret but almost impossible to miss unless you're a contrarian who refused to use dynazenon

Oh great, Drool woke up

>>23508189
Suletta was the first one who said she'll do her responsibility after she ruined Miorine's escaped,so It wasn't Miorine, Guelfag.

What's up with Mina and Chise saying the person that saved them looked like a woman when it's clearly Master Asia? Is it because of the ponytail?

>>23508151
yes but having it at 4 stages near the end of the game is really a waste

>>23508203
You will have it for 32 DLC stages unless you do them in NG+

>>23508201
Just ignore him, he literally didn't pay attention to the story.

>>23508189
Please, next time watch wfm again.

>finish chapter 3
Echika's arm pits

>>23508203
Having a second Dynazenon around still probably puts it in the top 5 units in the whole game

>>23508202
Yes.

>>23508204
I dont think the DLC stages are going to be at the tail end of the base game.

>>23508210
>Level 67
He, i'm still 36, so these bastards are still able to tank my hits.

>>23508212
You can probably start it whenever even if you've beaten the final boss already. They're not going to force people to restart the whole game, it's very long.

>>23508213
Throw it at a few relic stages
But even without being a bit overleveled it really is just an insane unit

>>23508210
Sizumu really really sucks though. He has support attack/defend at level 2 but no potential, morale limit break or anything like that. His spirit set is more for support too, but bond and zeal are pretty good.

When is sales? The game is too expensive on steam.

Olibee joins with a copy of MkII's upgrades it seems
And she has Unity this time

>>23508220
the game just came out and overall it's not like Ubisoft that loses value after 3 days.

>>23508222
Unfortunately no amount of upgrades is saving her weapons loadout
Gablae's Ashura Temple seems a lot better than it was in 30, his Buster Launcher gets 6700 power at 10 bars and that's without Gunfight or anything.
Tod blows but his Vieres is probably an upgrade for Marvel.

>>23508187
>dat drama CD
Guel is always creepy.

How are Master Asia's stats?

>>23508227
It makes me laugh that the suit literally has the same silly hairstyle as Olibee.

>>23508231
He's as good as most protags are, I'd say. Not as good as Domon, but Domon is in the running for best unit in the game.

Is it not possible to upgrade aerial before the duel with darilbalde?

>>23508212
I meant that if you have already finished the base game when the DLC comes out (which most of us playing it now will probably do) then you would be doing the DLC as post game with everything unlocked

https://youtu.be/q_v9cztMW6M?si=aVjW1Xy2tDVlNQS5

This should've been Aerial Rebuild's theme instead of Yoasobi's dumb song

>>23508238
Just use it for the final attack.

>>23508237
When the first DLC releases I'll probably do a second run with the protagonist I didn't choose the first time.

>>23508240
You're quick, I'm just starting chapter 4. DLC 1 will probably arrive in time for my final battle and I'll wait for DLC 2 to do a second go-round.

>>23508203
For how fucking long the game is it's a shame almost all the secrets are in Chapter 6 or 7
I know SRW does this shit all the time but I'm probably over 70 missions in without counting relic stages now.

I think I'm at the end of chapter 3.it was shorter than 2 but still pretty long, does each chapter keep getting shorter?

>>23508235
Nope
Save your Intuition casts for when Aerial's cameras get disabled, may still take a little savescumming to clear before the time limit on Expert

>>23508249
It's just my opinion, but I think the game is still excessively long and gives you too much stuff in a single run, when they should have divided all these stages between Cross and Forte, perhaps keeping the good old separate paths section.

I really miss the parts where the group split up and went on separate missions.

>>23508253
Way less side missions per chapter once all the recruiting is out of the way.

>>23508249
I believe the most egregious one is Master Therion in UX. He is only available for the last stage right?

>>23508253
It does, from chapter 4 onwards it's mostly main missions

>>23508255
I'm fine with the game length since expert has been fun and the writing is way better but its just a shame that so many secrets across the whole series only pay off at the tail end of the game

>>23508260
The worst is Charles and Ray in Z1 imo
You have to take route splits that have fucking nothing else on them, exclusive to Rand's story, for those two to show up as reinforcements for half of the last stage.

>>23508227
I think you can put her in the L-Gaim, which is a little better, or the Ashura Temple if you’re not using Gablae for some reason.

>>23508238
Ehh, I just replaced it with slash.

>>23508267
You can, I've been using Leccee still though.
Too bad you can't get a Bat Shu or that thing Gablae was pilotijgnin the middle of the show thats not in the game

Pretty cool location. I don't know how this game will be remembered, but for now it still seems to me to have been made by a competent team tasked with an impossible mission with zero budget and very few resources.

>>23508292
I'm treating it like a modern A Portable.

>>23508154
Why did they give it to him this time? Sho way more popular while the OVA is pretty shit

>>23508301
But where does Bellvine come from?

>>23508306
It showed up in a magazine. Even then it doesn't matter since T gave it to Sho

>>23508272
Yeah I love the Batshu, it’s a real shocker we don’t get one given how prominent it is in the series.

>>23508301
Because Show already goes from Dunbine to Billbine. This is so Shion can have an upgrade else he's the only MC character that basically gets no new units or attacks.

>>23508312
At least it's a really good capturable grunt in GC.

>>23508317
Yeah, but Vellbine’s special finisher cutin is still tied to Sho, isn’t it?

>damage Garuda slightly
>he does the laugh that I haven't heard in decades since the early PS titles
Well that's some nostalgia

>>23508301
Because the design was made for the Aura Fhantasm artbook, and those designs went on to be used in the OVA. So, it makes sense the Billbine counterpart Bellvine would be used as an upgrade for the Dunbine counterpart Sirbine.

Show's popularity is probably why Show even got it in T in the first place even though they had to advertise it alongside Shion due to its origins.

>>23508326
The cut in itself is, but now Shion can use the attack unlike in T.

>>23508317
>>23508335
Doesn't matter. Should got get first therefore it's his upgrade and should be given to him

Can't you just swap people out of their aura battlers?

For being in a main entry, Neo Byston Well sure got the short end of the stick. I'm on Chapter 7, 80 hours in, and Rabaan appeared 3 times in the whole game.

>>23508337
Like I said, due to its origins, the marketing had to place Bellvine alongside Shion in T, so a lot of people who were following the game were actually surprised when it was another upgrade given to Show, with an attack locked to him even, when he already had an unique attack locked in the Billbine.

>>23508339
Yes. They even kept Show's unique cut-in from T even though he isn't the main pilot anymore.

>>23508343
I'm planning to try a "main stages only" run afterwards just to see how different some of the joining and upgrade times are. Although I guess in this situation Dynazenon and later Mazinkaiser Kouji will just dominate most of the game gameplay-wise.

>>23508253
Chapter 2 is the longest. Chapter 6 can be pretty long too.

Oh Kira I missed you so much.
What would we all do without your holy dragoons

>>23508350
I'm guessing chapter 6 has the most main missions?

I like how the original plot is structured this time. You're not kept in the dark for 2/3 of the game, now there's a revelation on every chapter.

This is a small spoiler of the end of chapter 6, but the reason they don't go after Re Seivas after he leaves NOAHS is because it's taboo for Ra Valians to kill each other.

>>23508352
IIRC, it has either 7 or 8 main missions.

>>23508202
Indeed it is. She even says the same thing later on.

>>23508352
Chapter 7 is like K where one mission is actually two and they're all long as fuck.

>>23508204
One of the main reasons I don't believe there will be any more DLC outside of an actual expansion pack is that if they follow the same format then altogether in addition to the base game if a 3rd one releases that's 48 stages total of DLC stages that can probably be done during base game. Whilst an expansion you have more stages but they'll be done after you've beaten the final boss.

Sure, Chum

>>23507950
It's weird because some main missions go on forever (WfM finale, Getter finale), while others end out of the blue (penultimate Chapter 6 stage).

>>23508368
Delta finale really takes the cake, there's like 5 reinforcement waves

>>23508368
>>23508371
But on the plus side, more exp, mxp and money.

>>23508366
I prefer Silky

>>23508366
Why she look so creepy in srw, lol
>>23506938
>Getter Rays
unknown alien god gives you technologies

hmmm, what can be wrong

>>23508375
It's the endgame and I just want to see the end of the story so I killed the bosses directly

It's my first time experiencing arc's story and guren lagann's second half is literally a getter fanfic huh? Like, it's blatantly the same thing.

>>23508385
Brother, what do you think Spiral Energy is? The whole show is basically a getter fanfic, its why it rocks.

>>23508385
Everything from Gainax was super derivative. To be fair, they wore it on their sleeves. But it's all just Getter, Ultraman or Mazinger.

>>23508386
My experience with getter is completely just the srw adaptation, and all I know is that they fight dinosaur people or some bug looking aliens. Yeah armageddon touches on the getter rays bit but it doesn't really emphasize how dangerous the the thing is

>>23508393
They also fight Prussian space oni, who aren't really from space.

About MUHH engine. I created srw like engine in a week. Vn + TRPG. Spend next week adding animation (used animation sprites from srw).
That's it. Nothing too hard.

>>23508379
Getter is nether good nor evil. It's goal is to help humanity evolve to a higher plan and reach true enlightenment. The issue is that Humanity in the course of Getter doing that ends up abusing it's power and because Getter doesn't care about morality just sides with the humans.

>>23506983
>Getter 1 pilots are usually more complex because it is clear Getter develops a liking to then, they are strong willed and try to defy their fate most of the time.
It seems that's what Getter wants. I'm guessing Humanity trying defy destiny and even giving them the power to do so is all part of it'd ultimate goal. As long as it reaches it's end Goal the path to it doesn't matter

>Second Macross Delta story mission
>Has to protect the stage from the named cunts
>You start from the side between the enemy force and the stage so you have to haul ass across the map fast to catch the enemies on the other side
>Raideen mooks show up on the opposite side of where you spawn and now those purple squids have support defense to make killing those named fucks even more annoying

Fucking hell.
Is it gonna be a trend that Macross story stages are a pain in the ass?

What would happen if we got a gundam juiced on getter ray

>>23508385
Wasn't this something the Gurren Lagann creator admitted? I remember reading that Getter was the main inspiration for TTGL at least.

>>23508404
You'll end up with a Gundam that's a fusion of Unicorn and Turn A

>>23508253
Chapter 4 is the shortest and Chapter 2 the longest. Chapter 5 is about as long as Chapter 3, Chapter 6 is longer than that but still not as long as Chapter 2.

>>23508404
Think Unicorn but with a functional Crossbone mouth roaring.

>>23508203
It’s a shame cause it’s a second dynazenon running around and the kaiju club is fun to listen to. Like how sometimes they’ll just ignore onjia when he’s trying to get them to shout with him during full burst

When will I first fight with Godzilla Ultima?
I'm tired of waiting

>>23508416
The writer used to be ken ishikawa's editor in the 2000s apparently, he was a big fan

>>23508432
my favorite is the missile kick
>sizumu: someone shout please
>mujina: not me
>onija: hell yeah, missile shoot!

>>23508203
>Kaiju club joining at the very end of the gae

This game is definitely getting an expansion, I think some units did had this issue as well in 30 IIRC.

>>23508113
Meanwhile every time you cast Disrupt an extremely obnoxious bright glitch flash that's completely unskippable plays

Jiart also survives in Y

LMAO
Wufei bros, how are we going to recover after this game?

>>23508448
Technically he does survive in the original anime too, but it's only "confirmed" in one scene in the movie where you see a "flash" with his distinct white color in the wulgaru homeworld (and I think the wulgaru king makes a comment like "I guess he does have my genes after all")
It's just that nothing can come out from this because with the gate destroyed the Wulgaru will never be able to come back to earth (and the MJP franchise being 100% dead doesn't help)

>>23506930
school shooter

>>23507149
>>23506955
also harlock's VA died right around the release year of T

>>23508468
That's cursed.

>>23507176
Nah even the pre-release DLC in 30 were also nonexistent save for Masaki. The "main" DLCs however will definitely have dialogue.
Makes me wonder what the Fuuto detectives think about A Advent.

>>23507943
>Steam
anon Steam data doesn't work that way

>>23508471
Yeah he was actually retired iirc, he only did this gig for SRW T

>>23508480
The SRX team didn't talk much, but at least they occasionally popped up, like when Uso's mom is taken hostange, or when the K&M villain shittalks robots

>>23508480
I will never not be mad that Ryusei literally has another mech fanatic to geek out with in Ernie from Knights and Magic and they basically had I think only one interaction.

Yes Echika.
Reject men.
Embrace yuri.

>>23508499
Ryusei's is rough. Since he knew the wheeled battleships were a thing in Alpha. Why not just say "So, in our world they did this..." and then spoil things so the Dreißtrager crew could have been better prepared? Ryusei really is a dick.

>>23508449
It's not a problem, nobody's a Wufei bro.

So the "alternate ending" is them possibly killing off Bob's coworkers in a random Wulgaru attack at the school and we don't do anything at Plant Quetta.

>>23508433
Godzilla showing up means things are turbofucked, so it's one of the very last things you fight.

>>23508547
Why? He's not that strong in SRW Powercale
Might be below Dark Gundam tier

>>23508536
Prospera is quite mad we took suletta out of the school, I assume it put her plans out of schedule and it just doesn't work.

>>23508551
this iteration of godzilla is on par with getter emperor

>>23508238
If there was a version that started with chanting I'd use it, once I got Darilbalde and Rebuild I transferred everyone to slash.l

Also thinking back on that mission, it was basically the final few episodes except for Plant Quettta and Sophie+Norea, even Bob's transport crew got taken out

>>23508536
Poor Bob, he's just not an independent guy, doesn't know what to do with his life.

>>23508553
She entrusted it to us, deliberately. In reality, Prospera's plan is to raise Aerial's Permet score so she can then use Eri for her Quiet Zero. Whether Suletta is at the school or not it's irrelevant, Prospera only cares about Suletta fighting someone.

What will Guel do without Domon in the next game? Will he find another father?

>>23507511
>>23507567
>but the romance was really good

No it wasn't

>>23508557
So we can beat Getter Emperor in 3 turns too

>>23507511
>Unironically, there is more love and trust in this scene than any Gundam couple has ever gotten
Just say you don't watch Gundam and even I know that the franchise track record with romance isn't good but Suletta and Miorne are nowhere near close to being as good as Garrod and Tifa