Thread 23508483

Iris edition

Post builds, decal locations, card game decks, etc

Anybody able to figure out if those cave statues lead to anything, or are they just Easter eggs?

BRAVO NOLAN
BRAVO

FUCK ECLIPSE

>>23508504
The gargoyle statues are a cameo from the first game. You can break them for high rarity gear, but they regenerate so you need high DPS.

Asked in the other thread but gonna ask here too.
Any of you lads happen to know which enemy drops loot success rate mods? Trying to farm factors without them is suffering, I need to make a dedicated looting build but I only have a single loot success rate level 3 mod.

Grabbing a guy and just blasting a shotgun into his back over and over does not seem like a very honorable gladiator thing to do.

>>23508523
I'm not sure about attachments, but killing enemies with a bow increases loot drops.

GO GO OUTER RANGERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwbHW8MeHDU

The forest zone is the comfiest zone so far.
You could almost forget for a moment that an ecological disaster struck the planet.

>>23508529
Bow and knife are the looter weapon classes.
Which, yknow what that's actually really clever from a flavor perspective if you think about it.

Do you ever get to choose npcs to bring into the open world or do you only get them if you have them for a main story mission?

I can´t for the life of me find drops for this sword. I´m using the one from the shop since I never once saw it in the wild. Anyone got any idea where I could find then?

When'd you start to get double shoulder weapons?

>>23508538
Just story

>>23508566
Around the time you run into halfbreed Priscilla.

Small amount of fusion appearance insight.
Passives still count. They just can't morph you.

e.g; if you get 9 passives of Might and then reach the threshold in Shell to have a body part change, all those might points you ate take priority. Might current cope is to see if it's possible to unlock every skill in a given category (e.g might) without triggering the final head transformation. If it's possible for one it'll be possible for all. Then you'd do the same for the other two categories before finally unlocking all the passives.

I think i misunderstood fusion, is it that you bank activated factors until you hit the critical mass to gain an ability, or are you trying to make sets of factors to cash in like melds in rummy/mahjong?

>>23508628
AFAIK it´s sets. Tried banking some factors and then went to bank the missing pieces for a skill and got nothing. Though I pretty much stoped messing with this system as soon as I was at risk of getting weird bodyparts. I just went as far as the second tattoos

>>23508628
Has to be all in one go. If the skill in the list requires 7 factors, you need to have all of them at the same time.

>>23508614
Wait, are you saying you can't get a full single type body transformation? I've been trying to get a full might body and I've noticed I've had no transformations lately, that's because I've been getting passives? I've got a head transformation before getting the legs which before I reset to get rid of my mixed body I had gotten a head transformation after the legs. Order might be random.

Stop fucking sticking me with Ash for the story. This guy is genuinely one of the most annoying NPCs in years. Talks mad shit and is a dick towards you whole being completely ineffectual as an ally to the point that he may as well not even exist. Did the Legion fight on Hard and he's making snarky comments the whole time I'm getting my ass jumped and it's like FUCKING HELP ME JESUS CHRIST YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOOD AS A DECOY

>>23508641
I like him. The dude just never switches off lol, he's fucking mad that you're so cool and necessary and he wants everyone to know it. Every cutscene has him scream at someone for something no matter how minor. At this point I'm just happy my presence annoys him so much.

>>23508640
No. I'm saying it MIGHT be possible to clear out all active skills (not passives) and not reach the final head transformation. It's what I'm working on right now. I'm terrible at explaining shit, but I'll try anyways.

Passives can't transform you. Only active skills.
So hypothetically let's say you need 1 more (hidden) point to transform another body part into might.
[Mirage level 1] would transform you.
[Femto Efficiency level 5] would not.


Now. Let's say you get [Femto Efficiency level 5] and you coincidentally only need 1 more shell point to evolve the part you're at
You buy [Demilune Slash lv1]. The game sees you have enough points for a might transformation and so even though you bought a shell skill, you get a might transformation.

Anyways for you all you need to do is buy might active skills and avoid picking up passives until you're fully transformed.
...Yes it's cancer.

So is this one of those games like MH where it's best to just rush the story to get to the endgame loop of farming and doing challenge stuff? A lot of people seemed to have beaten the story like day 2 so it doesn't seem like that's the main meat of the game.

>>23508673
I spent most of my time exploring the overworld.

GOD DAMN
>>23505891
Nope, deluxe one with boob window don't hide your mutations.

>>23508687
That thing looks so fucking retarded with the skull. Your head gets elongated to like 1.5 it's normal size.
Even just having arms is a fucking disaster regardless of which flavor you pick

That's pretty nice ass. I remember Rabbit 11 was just lanky and slim Arsenal in the first game
>>23508692
I don't get why they decided to change cybernetics to edgy mutations from some shitty korean toilet paper.

Bless /m/ for having a spot to talk about this game
Just started encountering the Nuen, how much more game before I can reliably start farming gear that isn’t just a straight upgrade?
Also is the mirage skill as good as it feels? The clone doesn’t seem to do much damage but having an immortal aggro soak has been a godsend.
Also also someone feed me fun loadouts, dual laser rifles + cannon has been great but I wanna add variety to my button spam

>>23508692
We need a proper gallery and info on how to get each body part.It feels like everyone gets the same shoulders no matter what they go for. But there's some random changes that don't feel quite right. Like I got a different might leg part the first time around compared to now.

>>23508715
How much does it cost to reset the body at endgame? Been great grabbing some skills here and there while going through the story but can’t decide if I should pay now for a reset and refine my gene hunting or just wait till I hit post and do it then.

>>23508712
You can't refight the Nuen and some other humanoid story bosses until after you finish the main story, so if you want to farm one of their sets/abilities it's post-game only.
Wished I would have realized that earlier because I took Legion's helmet over his Factor and had to wait until way later to get the Mirage skill.

>>23508712
Your mirage is shockingly good at certain jobs, so it's good to expierment. They throw stun grenades a lot and help you lock down large groups, and I noticed that they'll stop and do full charged attacks against stunned enemies.

>>23508715
That's the regular might part. If you got the things that look like reverse joints that's shell.
A gallery would be nice. I don't know what I was thinking not just making one this time around. What was I thinking. Some other day. I'm getting fucking sick of fighting the electric moose.

Anyways appearance is pretty consistent once you know what not to do.
>>23508711
To be fair all 3 heads were STILL the death knell for any character. And the amount of effort you had to go through just to achieve symmetry often meant just throwing upgrades into the trash can.
The skylifter though? yeah that was the good shit.

>>23508726
>That's the regular might part. If you got the things that look like reverse joints that's shell.
No, the thing I got was like massive cylinders with no feet.

Does fusing new shit on top of your old shit overwrite the skills you have or is the combination of factors purely for the new skills you will learn and you still keep your old ones?

>>23508733
That's skeleton.
God that thing is fucking rad on it's full set if you can get over losing most of your mid section.

>>23508741
Skills are accumulative
You keep everything you unlock

>>23508742
How many fucktors (not a typo) do I have to build up before the next transformation is available?

>>23508795
Don't know how the math works yet. Ironically if Grausam beta fucking drops the right gene I'll know what increments the count at least. And after that it'd be trivial to figure out the numbers.

I'm so fucking sick of killing grausam man.

Unless the pirated version has some something fucky going on the the full game does run worse than the demo.
Have they announced future optimizations or is it going to be simply additional contents?

I found that laser claw weapon, it's fucking amazing. Need to find a second one.

>>23508820
Well at least you self reported.
Better check to see if you're running a bitcoin miner in the background.

>>23508816
Do you know if I have to actually unlock skills to make progress towards the next part or if I can just pump factors into my body even if they don't activate any abilities?

NGL lads, this transformation shit is starting to get on my nerves, I'm tired of resetting, wasting all my factors on not being able to progress far enough in mutation before I run out of factors to unlock is annoying as shit. Jesus fucking christ, either make it a proper mechanic or fuck off with this garbage. It's shit like this that ruins perfectly fine games.

>Arachne hits 100% monster dna and is just a sexy lady in a bodysuit
>I get juiced up and I become a fucked up crab monster

It's not fair

>>23508715
>It feels like everyone gets the same shoulders no matter what they go for
I haven't seen many other people with these, so I think each type gets its own shoulders. Guessing this is the first shell mutation for shoulder and back

>>23508856
have to unlock skills

You can cram as much dead shit into yourself as you want, it won't accumulate.
Moreover from >>23508816 finally giving me what I want I've learned that either the values are related to skills and skills are weighted in some impossible (more time consuming) way, or the individual values are weighed higher the higher you go
e.g., IV < XV

The latter will (eventually) be easy to decipher.
The former will take forever doing this legally to the point that I'd strongly consider just waiting for a dataminer.

>>23508917
Correct. Those are the ones I got the first go round. And I was really confused because it didn't match the shoulders in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QaX8qwV-oI
Only to find out that their showcased Shell is mixed with Might parts. Those assholes.

>>23508913
THIS LAND IS PEACEFUL
ITS INHABITANTS, KIND

>Heavy lifting round 3
ENOUGH WITH THE BUGGY BOX STACKING

>>23508903
It'd be a cool extra layer of customization if you could actually control what mutations show up, but in its current state it's just going to put people off from engaging with the system. Would be great if they added more options to the fusion customization menu later, but they'd probably need to receive a lot of complaints about it on their official sites first. Probably just have to wait for mods.

>>23508542
That the tamonten? Apparently, I got one from from strays in Mitera Glastra. So good luck with that, I guess. You can try murdering Axies in the forest as well, I suppose?

>>23508917
I want these shoulders. But I don't know what they are. Doing purely might skills gave me these shoulders >>23508715
And they shouldn't skeleton shoulders because those show up as vertical panels in the trailer, so I don't know what the fuck.

>>23508929
Basically right now the questions are.
What causes the mutation because I got the shell (?) mutation from might genes.
What determines the order of the mutation because the first time I did it I got Back-Shoulders-Legs order and when I retried I got the Back-Shoulders-Head.
What the values are specifically for building up mutation stacks becuase I'ver been resetting my save to get different ones and I've gotten them at different times.
The trainer for the game just came out I think I'm gonna reset my mutation and just start farming and resetting the save with one-hit kill bow and trying to figure out fucking how to do this shit.

What I think I want I want is the combination based on the trailer. The smooth shoulders which are in the thumbnails, the armos and legs I got here >>23508715 which were from spamming might. The chest that's in the thumbnail (picrel) and I have no clue about the head to be honest, maybe skeleton visor and might for the rest of the head if it can be mixed, and back whatever the most low profile thing is, maybe shell? I'm assuming the spike wings are might.

>>23508953
The process of getting the ones you want is a pretty... painful process. Due to the sheer number of beta bosses you have to kill as you completely rebuild your skill library. While I do think the investment of time any person spends makes them more protective of that experience, I can easily see the vast majority, at most, interacting with the system twice before wiping their hands of it.

This is an issue that unfortunately the greater community will have to catch up to in a week or two so that discussion about it can even happen. But hell they've already shown a willingness to just let transmogs do the heavy lifting. So this might not even be a longlasting issue.

>>23508913
she's not that way due to fusion

>>23508826
what the fuck

>>23508969
See what I'm saying? Now after trying from scratch again, the first transformation is eyes.

>>23508994
And by first transformation I mean this is the very first injection. I did not inject anything prior. I reset my progress, picked up these two shell factors, and came back to the lab.

Oh shit just the vermilion knight laser sword and this thing is great! Anyone knows where I can farm more of those?

>>23508969
>What causes the mutation because I got the shell (?) mutation from might genes.
I talked about it here>>23508662
TL;DR
If you pick up a bunch of shell passives you won't mutate.
Once you start buying ANY active skills (in your case might) you will mutate according to accumulated value of skills (in this case, Shell)
ergo, you get a shell mutation from might genes.

This was annoying as fuck learning. But learning it is how I was able to get my shell hands on my might body. (and even then I might still end up having to scrap this character for reasons that will make themselves known in half a dozen hours from now.

>What determines the order of the mutation
No clue.
From my experience(4 times at this point) it's eye-> tats -> more tats -> back -> waist -> head(1) -> arms -> legs -> body -> head(2)
The values are what I'm most interested in, and that'd be relatively easy once we establish the lowest and highest value fusions...

>>23508692
>>23508715
>>23508994
The fact that you cant acquire skills without dismantling your pilot in the first game and mutating your pilot in the second game is disappointing.

>>23509016
The problem is it's really fucking hard to get passives without burning through unlocking a bunch of actives too. We really need a mutation calculator or just a straight up save editor for this shit because fucking hell.

>>23509021
There's an outfit that hides all of your mutations that you unlock after beating the story

>>23508994
Tried a different combination, now it's eyes AND body right from the getgo.

>>23509034
I forgot the most important part.

Every category (might/shell/skeleton) has their own breakpoints.
So if you get enough points to unlock the legs transformation on might.
You need to get enough points to go from eyes all the way to body on shell, if you want a body transformation on shell..
That's why I'm seeing if it's possible to do this without losing your head. Because if you can get all (or at least most) active skills then it'll be "safe" to clean sweep most passives... You'd still lose your clothes (probably), but you'd at least keep your head.

If I have to junk this character I'll see what a character looks like if all they do is get passives. I'm really hoping this is the last time out of "necessity" and next time is specifically for knowledge.

>>23508992
Where do you get the claw holy fuck

>>23509045
>If I have to junk this character I'll see what a character looks like if all they do is get passives.
I don't think that's possible, there are more than a few passives that include lower level actives as a part of their factor combo.

>>23509053
Oh no. I know transformations are going to happen. I'm curious as to the extent. Like would you be able to make it with just some shit grafted to your back and waist or are you going to lose an entire limb.

>>23509052
I got it from a beacon

>>23508820
>>23508838
Nigga you got miners. I also pirated the game and only difference i noticed, it's that there's no visible popups after you crashland on earth. In the demo, i didn't see Toby and myself for solid 15 seconds.

On that note. I'm down to my last 3 skills and I still have my head
If I can get spray and pray and Limit Change I can consider this a success
>but detonate 3
Fuck detonate 3.
Every category has one or more junk skills anyhow.

Just... 4 more Grausam...

>>23508826
I love these things. Running two of them on my midweight build.

so I heard you have to choose between fighting legion or yaiba, and you lose out on one over the others loot for it
is there anything post story you get to fight the one you skipped or are you reliant on joining someone else's game?
not there yet in the story but just curious

>>23509089
It's legion and gaze
And once you get to post game the opposing mission just shows up and you go do it
Spare Yaiba so you can do his quest chain later

>>23509092
ahh I see I see, got it mixed up then
thanks for the info friend, I'll keep that in mind
also curious if the first interaction you have with bullet, and not fighting her has any changes narrative wise or if it was just there to show you that you have the option

>>23509081
I know it sounds weird after I basically beat everything in the game and put like 50 hours into it but this kind of shit really makes me dislike the game. I can't even get started forming my mutations because it's so weird and imprecise.

>>23509021
It's always funny watching people squirm over their create a characters getting fucked up.

>>23509081
Damn. Can't fit not even one more in there. Ultimately it wasn't even close. There's 5 (I miscounted) entire level 3 skills left.
That answers that question

>>23509096
I like silly stuff like this. Don't get me wrong it's contentious as fuck. But I like caring enough about NOT having something happen that I game the game as hard as humanly possible.

Alright, what's up with this stupid tower

>>23509133
You go up.
Make the most efficient climbing apparatus that's within your power to do.
And then get to it.

>>23509137
I've been climbing for god knows how long

>>23509141
Keep going. This isn't a prank.

>>23509021
>>23509109
It's great if you have a corruption fetish

This'll be the last autistic post I make about this without fully deciphering the system. But you know what? I don't hate the (shell) head that much. Skeleton (without full skeleton body) and Might are untenable though.

>>23509141
put on an entire playlist
of movies
You're going to be here for a bit

>>23509148
I just find it funny of all the ways to balance skill perks, "make your character look like the super sentai villain of the week" is as effective as it is at deterring rushing for all the skills as soon as possible.

What are the stats on the muramasa set?

>>23509146
>>23509167
Please tell me there's something up there that is worth this intrinsically japanese torture, who the fuck thought this was fine

>>23509171
-1 stagger resist
A fucking handgun has you on sight.

Leave complaints about the mutation system here if you want the possibility of it changing in the future.
>America
https://marvelous-usa.com/contact/
>Europe
https://marvelousgames.com/contact

There's the Japanese site too, but it doesn't sound like they take feedback like that based on their guidelines.
https://www.marv.jp/support/form/?mode=cs&gameplatform=switch2&title=10949

>>23509192
Solomeme deserves it

>>23508483 (OP)
Cute brown girl. I didn't realize it came out today but I still have the demo installed to try that out. Am I gonna totally lost or completely spoiled about the story if I play 2 or is DxM one of those games where the story really doesn't matter much?

>>23509192
Seems like the best arms for brawling performance? Explorer is the only other one I've seen above 200. That VP is insanely high though.

>>23509226
It's standalone so far.
But that could mean standalone like how Xenoblade games are standalone, where out of left field comes something so narrow and targeted that only means something for the specific person in the back who has been around since Xenogears.

>>23509178
>Please tell me there's something up there
A 200 memory capacity medium weight set.

>>23509276
All this shit just for the ugly as shit Solomon's set?
Kill me

>>23508969
Do these shoulders not exist?

Might is this >>23509081
Shell is this >>23508917
And skeleton has vertical spikes. So how the fuck do you get this shit?

>>23509226
I'm still very early in the story, but so far there's very little in common between the two games. Here's all you need to know about the first game (without spoilers)
-the moon cracked and part of it fell on Earth, spreading around femto, which is magical superenergy
-some humans reacted to femto energy by becoming Outers, capable of piloting Arsenals
-AI bots went insane and started murdering everything that tries to approach ground zero. These machines come to be known as immortals
Spoilery bits:
-the moon was housing a machinegod thing that was actively trying to evolve humans into Outers, the Dominator
-the AI didn't go insane, it thought humanity wasn't ready for the Dominator yet and fought with humanity in an attempt to prepare them for it
-depending on the ending, the shield protecting the rest of humanity from femto fails instantly or in the nearby future, thereby jumpstarting humanity's evolution regardless of your choice
-also, you're actually on Mars
As for the new game, it takes place a few centuries after the first. Outers are still Outers, immortals are muties instead of rogue AI and nobody knows how femto got on Earth.
The existence of the Dominator doesn't seem to be common knowledge.

up and away

>>23509338
It's several hours btw.

Haven’t gotten it yet but can you customize your giant mecha powerup at all?

>>23508483 (OP)
y'all gotta stop putting anime girls as the OPs for these generals i keep thinking i'm on /vt/

>>23509346
There are a few different models avaliable with preset loadouts. You can change the colors, but loadouts are all preset

>>23509052
The claw can drop from strays too.

>>23509239
>>23509332
Thanks anons.

Is there any way for me to see who drops certain gear by looking at the gear instead of searching the enemy droplist in the map menu? That shit is so ass to find what I´m looking for

>>23509332
>nobody knows how femto got on Earth.
Doesn't this explain it?

>>23509338
>That base ascension speed
Anon, turn back, make the centurion body and legs and femto regen mutations if you want to keep your sanity

Did the game come with an emblem editor as promised?

>>23509426
Yes, only avaliable in offline mode though

>I'm gonna make Kojima and his shitty ladders weep
>I'm gonna make Tower Climb look like a goddamn joke
>I'm gonna make Finland's suicide statistics woefully unimpressive
>I'm gonna invent the cinematic tower climbing genre
>I'm gonna singlehandedly increase Youtube and Netflix' revenue by 300%
What the fuck was he thinking?
Who hurt him?

how do i actually get key cards? the game doesnt really explain HOW to get them at all, just what to do with them

>>23509452
You get them randomly from boxes, Toby eventually has a looping quest you can do that gives you one of those on completion

>>23509451
He was flying high on coke while watching a shit tone of anime with god on his side.

>>23508483 (OP)
Is there as shoulder mounted gatling gun, somewhere? Need to think of something to do for a heavy suit.

>>23509503
Don´t think so, but you could use a railgun. They require a lot of memory avaliable so I haven´t tried one yet, but they seem powerful

>>23509511
Now that think about it, you get gun tendrils with particle shift, so there would really be a point to one would there.

>>23509451
DXM does not fuck around when it wants to prank the player.

>>23509537
REMINDER THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN TSUKUDA'S SHITPOST WORLD SINCE THE DAY ANON ATE TOO MUCH ICE CREAM AND STARTED SEEING SECRET BOSS WEAPON SHOPS.

Well, six fucking hours and about thirteen full resets later. I'm finally done getting the form I wanted.
Just trying to make one final decision, help me out lads.
Full Skeleton head (left) or Skeleton+Might head(right)?

>>23509556
Full Skeleton
Now explain how to manipulate the genes for optimal form creating
Also is there a gallery of each part yet anywhere?

i think ill do it again, didnt quite finish my playlist

>>23509584
>explain how to manipulate.
lol, I brute forced.
Reset genes, and then start doing the boss refights for the big triple gene combos.
A single triple gene combo could get you your first transformation - Eyes.
Double triple gene combo could get you your two first transformations - Eyes+Body (Tattoos)
Then another run of a boss that drops a single high level gene should get you the rest of the Body (Tattoos)
Mixing and matching this process let me get what you see. I don't think it's doable if you want a pure body since you'd need to unlock more and more and more of a single one. But then mix and matching, in one go I got the tats and eyes, then first mutation of shoulders from skeleton, then a mutation of back and hips from skeleton, then arms from shell, legs from might, body from might, then I had to do the head full in two gos because a single full set of factors was no longer enough to mutate me. But basically just reset and spam boss refights for monocolor triple factors.

>>23509608
Not bad, tedious but not bad
Can you still load more genes to unlock every skill after you have fully mutated? It doesn’t override previous mutations?

>>23509625
Yes, you can keep unlocking new skills after you've fully mutated. Doesn't seem to let you to replace any existing mutations, your form is set.

Does online work for piratefags? I want to support this game but I just can't justify the price right now.

>>23509686
If
You Want
To support The game
Don't fucking pirate it maybe

>>23509686
you can get it for 10 bucks off at greenmangaming, thats where i got it

>>23509697
Eeh might still be too much right now but that helps ease things a bit. Thanks.

>>23509556
I was just going to stumble in because after 1 mutation(aside from the tutorial one) I lost my ability to wear a shirt and was curios if it was normal but damn this system can get crazy huh. Looking at the other posts I did wait until the 2nd area to get the other triple gene for helm splitter 3 so that's probably why I lost my shirt. Also I'd vote the full skeleton. The horns on the other head just looks so different in material to everything else you got on.

>>23509703
np, also should state thats with their little gay code they market on the front page, its like sep15 or somethin i dont remember but itll say it somewhere anyway

Any good spot to farm slot upgrade 2?

I can´t find enemies that drop laser swords. Any good spot to farm then? I´m looking for either the yellow or the red ones

>>23509816
Strays in the Mitera Glastra (Forest) area drop the yellow laser sword (Tamonten)
Schole Hills/Martel Barrens (Mountain) for the red sword (Vermillion Knight)
There are probably more areas that drop them, but I only have those in my enemy drops list so far. You can also just buy them if your shop is upgraded high enough.

>>23509865
I got then from the shop but I´d like to get one with better stats if possible

>>23509603
Wait how much femto does propellant tank 2 give? And how many femto attachments?

Yeah ok thats disappointing. I'm cancelling

is there another part to the heavy lifting thing? i heard thats how you get zanki's helmet
or did pick the wrong option at the end of part 3

Wait, so that's it?
I beat the shit out of Solomon again and he's not even possible to rematch in the terminal?
All those hours to go up there and I can't even properly farm his set?
Does he spawn in some of the procgen axiom dungeons at least?

>>23510011
theres a teleport once you get up there (I've heard)

>>23510011
Look on your map. There's a teleport marker like a few pixels to the right of the marker for the door to the tower, that takes you to the top, not the door. He'll respawn when you reload the area by leaving and coming back.

I mean how do you think we got our sets? >>23509276 >>23509192

>DGame came out September 5th
>It is now September 8th
>You've played this game for 67 hours

>>23510050
I got like 26 before it even came out. Don't think I've ever spent that long on a demo before

Weird choice to not have all gear drop in all rarities. Like the only three armor sets in the game that are yellow are ultralight, light, and a medium that only has enough capacity for two swords so effectively ultralight build-wise.

>>23510063
we'll probably get more with those free boss updates if anything, but yeah they should have put out some more for launch

Good lord Rebellion sure loves to jump around like fucking Super Mario

>>23510067
I'd love to be proven wrong, but considering they're free updates, I doubt the omega bosses will drop any armor, they'll probably just drop Mark 3 versions of blueprints their beta counterparts drop.
If we do get new armor sets they'll probably come with into the abyss, which just by the name alone sounds like it would be some procedurally generated dungeon.

>>23510074
That's the problem with a lot of bossess, they just never fucking stop moving which doesn't matter if you're a sniper or some shit but sucks donkey balls for melee users which is pretty bad considering the game is pretty melee focused considering how much better swords are on average.

>>23510074
the absolute worst part of the combat in this game is when any boss decides to reposition
either they just bulldoze through you because they take up half the area or they just keep moving around over and over
for the last 1/3rd of the fight against that digger he was underground the entire time
really took the sails out of that fight

Ok it seems if you have any skill set at lvl 3 you grow the shoulders. Anyone had a different result? I guess SK mutation is the same?
Guess the penalty is looking retarded, guess its fitting given we are collecting chromosomes

So there are only 3 Battle Armors, right?

>>23510085
I got shoulders and back without reaching level 3 on anything; just a bunch of level 1s and a couple 2s. That was after the eyes and tattoos though

Anyone happen to know if any enemies in the desert area drop a single SK3 factor? Could potentially unlock a ton of skills at once if so

>>23510222
What they need to do is add the abvility to delete saves.

do i get a choice later to pick npc partners? doing some side stuff solo and id love to have forge go with me

Should I always be taking the fusion material from the nuen bosses since you cant get it again until endgame?

>>23510322
Follow a build plan and pick the right one, also I got cucked from Thousand cuts lvl 3 because of this. And I think I'm almost end game and no one drops the fucking fusion for it.

>>23510306
No, you eventually get locked into Raven and Iris and after beating the story you have an option to stop them from following you or not. That is all. You can pick who fights with you in the boss/story remaches at the console at the back of the base but obviously they don't carry over into the open world.

>>23510222
>Secret shop unlock isn't a bug
Guess it's over for me

Just me or the story become a total at the ending where you kill Arachne? Anyone know if is linear which bosses you kill or not? If is not linear I think I saved the Samurai pupil.

>>23510358
Could try all of these
https://x.com/seto3_/status/1965026790256361527

>>23510362
ass*

>>23510370
The secret store is just the boss weapon merchant, so much hype for nothing honestly...
I unlocked it once I got silver stamp card.

LOVE the bosses in this game.

>Trying to get under Gunfort to bash its weak points with Mace
>It either jumps miles away or does that shield thing
Guess going under isn't worth it

>>23510222
No mention of Switch 2 performance enhancements.

Looks like I’ll be dealing with lag when fighting more than 4 enemies at once for the foreseeable future.

How the fuck do you beat gunfort alpha?

>>23509608
>I don't think it's doable if you want a pure body
Presumably it is. But I'll find out probably tomorrow.

Anyways I've discovered combined with >>23509167, to my horror, that there are 3 flavors of headpieces per final head evolution
Also upgrades are accumulative across all categories
Getting a better understanding of values helped figure this nonsense out.

Anyways has anybody found Zeruchroar yet?
>>23510547
With guns.

>>23510598
>even more variation
Jesus wept
>upgrades are ACCUMULATIVE
Jesus WEPT
Bless your work respec autist, please put together an excel sheet so I can make my optimal immortal-fu look

>>23510547
>ranged
Shoot it's knees with firearms until dead
>melee
Pfffff ahahahahaha

Anyone else feel the ice cream shop is out of place?

>devs add a very intricate yet incredibly boring card minigame to the game
Fuck off. Nothing good better be locked behind this shit.

>>23510653
Card game or fishing, make your choice.

>>23510645
Yes that's the best part.

Can I get the giant axe that Bullet was using?

has anybody figured out how to get through the acid rooms legitimately
>>23510719
Yes
It's a "sword" though.

>>23510720
Good enough.
Damn I want to farm the Nuen’s for their gear so bad but I also don’t want to just rush the story.

>>23510645
It's a beacon of hope for the future

This game definitely has one thing over DxM1, the fashion is fucking immaculate.

Has anyone done any multiplayer stuff? Is there any content that’s actually built around it or is it just for fucking around with friends? Haven’t seen anyone talk about it and it seems like most people are playing with online disabled anyway since it improves load times.

>>23510547
Hulk smash the batteries on the cannon until you get to grapple it out, then use the broken cannon piece to shoot him some more, after that you can smash his kneecaps until death or tickles his belly pimples.
>>23510725
Most of the gear from the Neun is bad
>Arachne
Her bow's decent I guess, other than that it's bog standard explorer set and a bitch ass knife
>Bullet
Her orbital shield isn't terrible, her axe is pretty good, she has a rare helm and that's about it, you can get a good shotgun out of her though
>Yaiba
He has a unique Tachi and I guess there's only two of these in the game, they kinda suck though so I don't know, his set is okay-ish
>Gearworm
nothing of note outside of the greatsword I guess, and the greatsword is not Centurion's so it goes in the trash
>Legion
the set is okay-ish I guess, weapons are just generic stuff
>Gaze
Has a unique helmet for edgelording, the Empusa sniper rifle is....situational at best, it can wreck immortals if you manage to expose their weak spots and accumulates a lot of stagger, pointless if there's no weak spot exposed and you don't have good aim
>Hex
nothing here, lol, I guess you get to farm insania rex more though
>Void
The Demeter set is actually pretty good and worth farming if you don't want to frankenstein something else with Centurion's Primus Pilum parts, his sword is also top tier and really good for edgelording

Ok finished the game, I know I'm here for the mecha explosions and shit but holy jesus the story was painful. I thought they were going to properly distribute decent at a decent pacing the character storyline and link with the world building to understand why Outer and Humans are at war. But nothing made sense it was a cheap plot of all in your LE HEAD and the "true" villain is just a guy wanting to be god for a second and commit suicide. Oh yeah welcome to the law of the jungle but I will kill myself lmao, peak boomer fantasy.
With how badly the MC background told this contaminated the why I should care about the ex companions of the MC. Hey you suck now! I will kill you or sometimes you get a chance to not do anything and leave at that.
The collecting mecha part is quite addicting but not much boss variety to go for. The fusing system is pretty good its quite autistic and well thought just wished you could choose your first major mutation instead of being locked into shoulders.
I guess there is a good potential here but they shouldn't had waste resources with stupid shit like Bike or Card game. And focus more into beating shit with your mech.

>>23510653
Don't worry its just card faggotry no mecha parts or weapons involved.

>>23510761
>I guess there is a good potential here but they shouldn't had waste resources with stupid shit like Bike or Card game. And focus more into beating shit with your mech.
I've been saying this since launch, Tsukuda just doesn't understand what the fuck he's doing.
NOBODY plays mecha games for shitty card minigames or races with Halo tier physics for their vehicles, nevermind the fucking climb to Solomon.
I would have removed all of that shit for more mech parts and better weapon design where things aren't just stat sticks that will become obsolete immediately the moment you unlock the next tier of gear, this shitty old AC style balancing did NOT need to come back, the diablo style loot did NOT need to come back, we did not need a Quake 4 tier cinematic campaign with vehicle turret shootings let alone that extra cringeworthy part at the end with the horse charge.
And yeah, the story is terrible but at least it's not unsalvageable like the first game's, on the other hand the party members are so hilariously worse I don't even know how they managed to do worse than the first game, even the Neun having all a different flavour of sob story manages to ruin their role of antagonists entirely.

Though it's clear the game is yet again unfinished and hastily rewritten in a lot of parts as the season pass will feature a fight with Chaldia, who gets unceremoniously written out of the story after a whole...10 lines of dialogue.
No idea why Ash gets a sister with a unique design that was CLEARLY supposed to be a party member but was written out of the story at the last second, nevermind Angel doing what she does...
Also, Raven being the Jack-O of the story is just too much, somebody has to tardwrangle Tsukuda because I can't believe he has the balls to ask 90 bucks for this.

>>23510767
Also why the fuck do I even have the option to turn off party members when the game DOES NOT LET ME CHOOSE WHO I WANT TO PLAY WITH and I'm stuck with Iris and Raven forever.

>>23510769
>Raven dies at the end
>You are stuck in some weird time loop before the end
Enjoy!

The story is booty but I just don’t pay attention to it. Game is a lot more fun just treating it like Monster Hunter (pre Wilds anyway) and pretending I’m just some random going out to kill shit for the hell of it.

Ok noticed there is quests where you need to talk with the npc and it won't appear in the bench.
So yeah the game wants you to yap about shit.

>>23510776
For what is worth it's fun to just roam around the world and kill stuff or bully Axiom convoys, overall the maps are really good and I dig the randomization with various mining point, but they went too far with treasure chests fucking everywhere and the probe minigames that forbid you to fly are torture until you unlock legs that can jump sky high like Primus Pilum.
Imo they should have removed all those RNG treasure chests that have nothing but trash loot and just worked around beacons more, beacons are an interesting gimmick...outside of the fact that your scan struggles to make the wreckage visible.
I also do like how some rooms of various bases don't have lights on so you're stuck with your arsenal's light, there's a lot of neat touches here and there but again, the game is too unfocused to properly capitalize on most of the ideas and possibilities of the format they chose.
It's a good proof of concept but I'm just halfway convinced, it took them this long to come out with yet another half baked game that stands on its own just a tiny bit better than the first one and they're asking outrageous amounts of money for it, I really want to throw my lot with Tsukuda's folks since they clearly have passion but goddamn it they're making it really hard for me to trust them.

At least I can say this is more or less what I expected Xenoblade X to be back in the days, even if Yanase isn't here Kawamori is still great so I'm not regretting I spent 40 bucks on this...right now, we'll see what they'll do in the future, whether they fix the tons of issues the game has and what the season pass will actually do.

Is the spinning gun attack ever actually good?

Zooming around with the Atalanta in the arena is fun as hell

>>23510791
No, it's awful. Which isn't surprising seeing as the equivalent it had in DxM1 was also awful.

>>23510791
The only time that shit is good is when Gaze uses it on you

>>23510793
>casually better in every way in comparison to my Hermes II
que?

>>23510750
I've done bosses and dungeons. Both are fun
>built around it
Bosses naturally are given they're nearly all aoe fests. I can't really tell the difference with the secure areas or w/e they're called. But there's enough stuff in them that it don't really matter either way
Also I don't notice load time issues

So, how are the power armors? Cool or uncool?

>>23510843
For the most part it's just scaled down arsenals, same white glint gimmick of having opening parts in the limbs, some sets from the first game are in the game but slightly redesigned to fit human proportions.
The fashion's alright, plenty of edgy parts, most of these are classic kawamori designs, they also snuck in a painfully 80's set with the Revenger arsenal which is super cool.
On the other hand weapon arms suck, it's just an (admittedly cool looking) arm holding a folding weapon that's pretty much stapled around the arm.

After I farmed Centurion for its parts I can run, jump and fly like a fucking maniac which is good I guess, it's hard to go back to other arsenal parts.

>>23510851
>On the other hand weapon arms suck
Like FUCK they do, I spit roasted the entire game with a bazooka arm.

>>23510864
I mean visually, they're really lame.

>>23510867
You take that back, the bazooka arm looks cool as shit. Laser rifle arm is also fine. The others are lame though, yeah.

What special moves are just awful and not worth bothering with?

>>23510873
The rooty tooty spin and shooty is literally worthless

>>23510873
hack, subjugation, spray and pray (only useable if you're a super light mech), firearm smash, detonate, Auto-Dodge, kick on most legs, optic laser, blink

>>23510883
Is kick good with high jump legs?

>>23510886
it's useable with high jump legs.
That's the best you're getting.

>>23510791
No, but like everything in this series it's peak FUCK YOU I THINK IT'S COOL.
Sometimes I just want to smack some of you all upside the head for being unable to appreciate FUCK YOU I THINK IT'S COOL as a reason for things to be.

there's a third location bullet can show up at

Do those areas that are clearly boss arenas actually get used for bosses like the northwest part of the desert that is just a giant empty field with 6 flame thrower guys?

>>23510972
Yeah, but if they're empty then you need to beat a base boss somewhere else, the alpha/beta variants only spawn after you beat the base boss.

>>23510598
>Anyways has anybody found Zeruchroar yet?
You talking about Gigantes Heavy Armor?
Very rare drop from the story fight with Gearworm where he uses it. The item is literally called 'Arsenal Core "Gearworm"' you just nab it and then you just craft it in the crafting menu in the factory where a new option called Heavy Armor shows up under items in the Development menu.

>>23510997
No I meant Zeruchroar but what the fuck I didn't know about this
Now I'm paranoid about other shit I've missed

>>23510598
Might has bladed legs, shell has reverse joint legs, skeleton has skelly legs. Where the fuck do the stubby cylinder legs come from? They're fucking massive so clearly they're too big to belong to any of the three. Something is being mixed in that we don't know about.

>>23510999
stubby cylinder legs? Can you show an image?
I assumed head was the only permutation
But if that isn't true I've got a lot of autism in my near future.

>>23510997
Zeruchroar is discount Nineball from DxM1, it's probably lurking somewhere and since nobody's playing this info is scarce.
Me I'm just fucking around finding probes and shit to solve, didn't even find the fucking ball yet

>>23510998
Oh, I saw another anon refer to it as Zeruchroar so I just thought that's what you meant.
WTF is Zeruchroar then?

>>23511003
I don't have an image, it was days ago on my first run and I had gotten the might visor and skeleton arms at that point, so when I saw it, it looked comical beyond belief and I immediately rolled back my save, each leg was just a pure cylindar from the thigh to the bottom with each leg being the width of the torso and the arms combined.
Thankfully I'm a master-level artist and I drew a quick image for you (pic related) I know it looks like I'm meeming because of the shit mspaint quality but I'm being genuine.

>>23511015
Might visor, Skeleton arms, do you remember the back or waist?
I was going to see if anything happened if you got 100% absorbs on a single character. And I probably still will do that first.
But even the smallest hint will help me figure out how to decipher the upgrade path you took.

Because if what you're saying is accurate, there's a fourth permutation. And the rough part is that I simply can't think of how a person would get it. Unless another flavor of nightmare is possible.

>>23511023
Back was shell, the assfuck handle, the waist tail, shell I think.

>>23511028
tail? Like it was a hollow ring right?

>>23510767
The Solomon climb and the horse charge are kino and I will fight you on this.

>>23511079
>horse charge
the what now?

>>23511079
The horse charge is mega cringe but I can sorta forgive it because we do get to steal Yaiba's bootleg Red Hare and play around with it even if it sucks.
THREE+ HOURS of holding X and watching a game render some shitty tower tiles over and over while the creeping fear of gamebreaking bugs is right there behind your shoulder, just to get to that roided up jobber is wholly inexcusable, on top of it all his arsenal gear is unusable dogshit too, seriously one of the most atrocious moments in vidya I've had the displeasure of witnessing in a long time

>>23511057
No like a turtle tail.

>>23511103
>THREE+ HOURS of holding X
There's an option to make the boost a toggle. This is the type of esoteric bullshit that was commonplace back when games had soul.

>>23511100
IT'S TIME

Is there any NPC in the game that sells analyzed ID cards? (Not blank cards, unanalyzed) I'm trying to go for a rainbow card but holy shit.

>>23511156
not that I've seen

>>23511110
I think it's because Marvelous is in a position where they can apply Yoko Taro business logic and succeed on the merits of being weird and experimental rather than trying to be more refined than the team who has infinitely more budget than you.

I mean, yeah AC6 gets weird as far as Armored Core goes, but it isn't DXM weird, and I doubt AC will ever try to be that weird in our lifetime, which lets DXM succeed on the strength of it being weird.

I´ve noticed my physical defense is in the negatives. Can the general defense stat compensate that or should I try and balance it out? What would be a good value for specific defenses?

>>23511215
>What would be a good value for specific defenses?
non negative unless you like being one shot from 30k vp on hard.

Game feels somewhat unfinished.
Which weapon and armor types have the highest rarity variant seems very spotty. I know we're getting Omega boss fights in a couple weeks as dripfed content but there are no Omega immortals or axioms, there are only a handful of omega strayed which are barely any different from regular enemies, they just hit a little harder, there seem to be only three heavy armors in the game, one you start with, one you unlock through base expansion, and one that's a drop from a boss. There are boss fights (Specifically one in The Eden, you know the one) That drop nothing. THere are certain suits like Nerve's that I thought would be gatherable later in the game but now that I've got multiple suit part collections at 100% and I've not yet gotten any of his I'm convinced it's straight up missing.
I hate when studios half-implement rarity tiers. It's annoying as shit. And I'm gonna be pissed if all the "missing" shit magically shows up in the abyss DLC.

>>23511254
Rarity doesn't really matter for armor. The yellow rarity stuff is almost all worse than the purple rarity

>>23511279
Not really the point I'm making.

>>23511254
>there seem to be only three heavy armors in the game
There are 6 heavy sets. Cratos, Crius, Acropolis, Futsunushi, Gladius, and Pallas.

>>23511310
Revenger is heavy too

>>23511310
>>23511314
Heavy armors you fucking retard. Not Heavyweight gear.

>>23511316
Fair enough. Keep forgeting this is a thing

>Got Bullet's satellite shield
This sounds too good to be true. What is the catch to this?

Is there any world where the gun arms are worth using? They seem like a neat gimmick but their stats seemed lackluster as fuck on top of being incredibly hard to find considering the trade off.
Even the assault particle shift seems to have fallen off (I've only got a single tier 1 assault attachment so maybe stacking a few tier 3s on a lighter build could be decent?)

>>23511368
Cost a ton of memory and aren´t that great. I´m using it for a heavy build with two handed guns right now and it´s...ok. It´s a layer of protection but it´s not as good as you´d imagine

>>23511389
I´m considering using the laser rifle arm for my build only because it´s very cheap for memory and has a lot more precision than I could get from my avaliable arms at this point. I´m between using this and keeping the glitter cannon on my shoulders or switching for the halberd arm and the that weird laser rifle that´s very good but very high on memory usage with funnels for the shoulder. I´f not for the fact that I can´t rock my sword and board if I have the gun arm, I´d be using this thing exclusively

>>23511389
They're pretty useful if you play to the type matchups and absolutely trivialize eclypse because it's only threat comes from stealing your weapons which it can't do to gun arms.
> incredibly hard to find considering the trade off.
You can just buy them off the shop if you upgrade it nigga.

>>23511397
I was thinking of using it for a lightweight build to protect against anything I fail to dodge.

So do the mutation parts you get always come in a set order? If so what is the order, nearing the end and trying to figure out how to make my optimal monster wife look
>Shell Head
>Skeleton Shoulders
>Shell arms
>Might Back
>Skeleton Hips
>Might legs and chest

>>23511415
I don´t think a lightweight can reasonably equip this thing and carry weapons. Both this and the railgun for the shoulders are horribly expensive. Maybe if you shove a ton of memory ups and memory cost down on you build you might make it work...well, try it out and let us know what happens

>>23511433
NTA but even with three level 3 memory cost reductions it still comes in at just over 500 memory requirement. On a lightweight you're gonna go with it and a single one-handed sword and that'll max out your build.

>>23511079
You can't fight that anon, there's no PvP

that second legion fight was the worst fight of the game holy shit

who the fuck designed that bullshit

>>23511433
>>23511450
It's doable if you're willing to throw in one heavy piece for the memory and forgo shoulder weapons. The Pallas head has the highest memory in the game from what I can tell. It's technically not lightweight, but it is just as fast as one. Once I min-max my attachments it should be even better.

>stunning the normal enemy version of the grenade robot you're not supposed to beat in the opening sequence lets you use them as a turret
kino

>>23511254
>THere are certain suits like Nerve's that I thought would be gatherable later in the game but now that I've got multiple suit part collections at 100% and I've not yet gotten any of his I'm convinced it's straight up missing.
Nerves armor is a complete hodgepodge of parts plus one helmet you get in the heavyweight armor room when you return there at the end of the game.
Most of the AC's that are supposed to be "good" are all hodgepodge's of parts

>>23511491
NTA but I'd honestly just stop that gun and fit on two Salamanders. The memory cost basically doesn't exist and they are stupid good within their crit range, don't sleep on them.

>>23511508
>Most of the AC's that are supposed to be "good" are all hodgepodge's of parts
And that's a good thing. It's a mech building game. I hated the fact that in the original basically the entire cast used pre-built suits and didn't have custom ones. It's simply unrealistic. Sure some would use purist assemblies but largely custom builds would be far more common.

>>23511525
Oh. That wasn't a disparaging statement.
I love shit like that

>>23511506
Do you actually get anything for beating that thing? I know you get your items reset after the intro but I'm interested to know if there's some kind of reward. Same for the giant mothefucker you're supposed to run from.

>>23511540
Just that double laser shoulder cannon from the first game I think

>>23511540
You can't beat Centurion in the opening sequence

>>23511508
>plus one helmet you get in the heavyweight armor room when you return there at the end of the game
What? I explored that entire room and didn't see any arsenal parts. There WAS a chest behind a locked door, but there was no way to open it.

>>23511555
Hell if I remember how you get in there
It's this thing at any rate.

>>23510883
I got some use out of kick on a heavyweight build to knock melee enemies back so I could keep shooting them without the windup of a mace

>>23511560
Those stats are decent, looks like I'm going back for it fml.

>finally build an Arsenal set I'm happy with
>still can't find any good weapons
Give me the claw or at least some more knuckles already, god damn. And yes I've been doing Beacons but none of them have had any good shit.

>>23511584
>Give me the claw or at least some more knuckles already
Rebellion Beta.
Mountains - Lytron Basin the big open valley
where the name is written on the map.
f it's empty or there's a Dreadnought Beta on there, leave to a different map/base and come back to reset spawns.

>>23511584
>Give me the claw
The laser claw? Strays in the mountains drop this constantly. Just farm them and you'll get it.

>>23511596
>>23511607
Haven't gotten to the Mountains yet. Just beat Insania Rex or whatever. But good to know, thanks.

>>23511616
If you want it before the mountains you'll need to win the lottery on a beacon like I did.

>>23511555
Let me know if you figure out how to open that gate.

Doshio!

>>23511665
Think about your former best friend Gearworm and try to not get too hard.

>>23511678
I quite like how you were actually friends with also everybody in the Neun very well respected by them.

>>23511681
It wouldn't be a terrible twist if it weren't for the fact that Nova is so completely oblivious to their feelings it either makes him look like a complete autist or it just looks like shit writing
>Doesn't know Arachne had a huge crush a him and was a schizo misanthrope
>Doesn't know Bullet was basically rapemeat for Axiom before becoming a Neun nor does he know about her past on the surface
>Hex literally has to spell out things to him
>Doesn't know anything at all about Gaze outside of the gorgon eye bullshit
>Completely oblivious to the fact that all of Neun was actually on board with this whole plan of genociding humanity
>Insists they were brainwashed for most of the game when Nerve was the only one who ended up being the case
>Void was supposedly his idol and he was more or less his left hand and yet he didn't know anything about him and his MD Geist plan whereas the rest of the team outside of maybe Nerve was fully on it
The only two Neun member that Nova sort of actually knows are Yaiba and maybe Legion, and he still fails to understand their motivation anyway despite being supposedly buddies
They also should have let us us the Neun folks as our own party members like they did for the baddies in the first game, but the game's so rushed we can't even fucking choose our party from the reclaimers.

>>23511707
>They also should have let us us the Neun folks as our own party members like they did for the baddies in the first game
Honestly I agree with this. At bare minimum there should have been another opening sequence mission prior to the one the game has where we go on a joint mission with the Neun and get some banter/feel for how Nova interacts with them. Then we agree to become a Centurion, and we are lead to where the game begins currently.

>>23511724
>Opening mission during one of their ops
>plenty of pre fight banter, chatter
>Mission is you eradicating a reclaimer base and leaving no survivors from who fights back
>Human civilians there are apparently going to be “handled” but that’s not your problem
>Post mission banter, you get chosen for Centurion program
Would have set up the fact that you’ve been a cold human killing bastard for a while and made “the tension” with the Reclaimers a little easier to settle
Least the story is coherent this time, I cannot recall anything about DxM in even broad strokes…

>>23511724
It sucks especially because they went out of their way to put out a "which side will you choose" style reclaimers and neun faction trailers leading up to the release.

>>23511555
>>23511648
Not sure if you need to be on the specific post-game sidequest of learning about the Neun, but this facility had the keycard behind a console in one of the rooms that opens that door.

Haven't finished the game yet, I'm having a blast roaming around blasting shit and looting (haven't even unlocked the Heavy Mech). How fleshed out is the post-game rn? Do the fights against the Neun have higher difficulty options?

>>23511808
The rematches with the Neun don't have difficulty options but there is a SHITLOAD of post-game content. Lots of world bosses to find, parts to collect, and secret bosses that'll fuck your butt including one at the top of a tower that takes EIGHT HOURS to climb.

What gear did you guys use for taking on King? None of my melee can stagger him and his laser cannons track perfectly, and I try to block it with a shield but it comes out of nowhere at times

So what do you guys think of the weapon skills? So far only Harvester Scythe seems useful and Spray and Pray for the i-frames.

>>23511817
>Spray and Pray
This shit is legitimately worthless. The repair shot is better for fucks sake.

>>23511817
>Spray and Pray for the i-frames
Bro, you're just rotating in place, slowly. You'd better off just spamming boost if you want the i-frames.

>>23511819
Fuck you it looks cool though.

>>23511825
It looks cool sure but it's literally a waste of a slot and femto.

>>23511819
>>23511824
>>23511828
they literally included it since the first game just because they thought that shot of white glint doing it in the FA opening was badass lol

>Requesting Backup for Defense Base
Fuck, this is already giving me shit

>>23511833
It was even worse in the first game too lmao

>>23511838
to be fair it looked like white glint wasn't hitting anything either and it just got him shot off motherwill losing his left rifle lol

>>23511840
>FROM makes a point to put a hotshot showboating move in the ACFA opening that bites WG in the ass
>Marvelous for some reason thought this was so cool that they had to add it to both their games
>They even made it awful and a horrible idea just like in said opening
Actually unironically soulful, kek.

>doing the early coliseum fights
>A NEW CHALLENGER
>some guy named breaker
>whips out harvester scythe attacks on me, huge difficulty spike
>win with 1 HP left
what the fuck was that

R8

>>23511847
Wtf gun is that R Weapon? Looks laser a laser MG. Can you post the stats?

angel is pretty cute, also poison seems to do a lot of damage to bosses

>>23511817
I like that Spray and Pray lets you dual wield miniguns
https://x.com/wasabi123x/status/1961331329330516327

>>23511847
Gravity guns are awful, I'd drop it to get some memory back. That aside looks fun.
>>23511852
Angel is MVP for bosses, bring her whenever you can.

>>23511852
If it’s anything like the first game status effects are very good
Stun alone has been carrying me through arena fights

missiles seem pretty worthless in this game

>>23511861
The only good status for bosses is acid, the others suck.

>>23511865
You really want the heat seeking missiles, lock on missiles is pretty much worthless.

>>23511865
You're just using the wrong ones. Grab Garuda or Wrath of God.

>>23511872
ok but are those better than the higher tier shoulder cannons? because i'm using the first tier of it and i love that thing, it's like a grenade cannon from armored core

>>23511877
The shoulder cannons are much worse, they have INSANE burden and do not have more DPS. That said the shoulder cannons are still viable, use what you want.

>>23511851
Just a gravity gun, one of the boss weapons.

>>23511859
>Gravity guns are awful, I'd drop it to get some memory back. That aside looks fun.
I get you, but I also slotted it in specifically because I had memory to spare.

>>23511886
>Just a gravity gun, one of the boss weapons
No not that, the other gun. The one in your main hand labeled R Weapon (I know it's actually your left hand)

>>23511886
>I also slotted it in specifically because I had memory to spare.
Dude half your weapons have memory reduction attachments on them and you even threw memory expansions on your armor. You do not have memory to spare.

can you avoid mutating too much if you're just selective about what factors to take

>>23511895
Just ignore the mechanic entirely until post-game when they give you a suit that removes all mutations. It'll make you better at the game to not rely on them anyway.

>>23511897
but harvester scythe....

>>23511900
Completely unnecessary. Not even the best melee skill.

For me. It's double black moon spray and pray

>>23511902
but it looks super cool

what is the best skill then

>>23511900
I cleansed my fusions from the demo, got just what was needed for harvester scythe and all I have are the tattoos. I even managed to get the shield charge skill that I love to use. I´m not fusing anymore until I get the costume to hide the mutations

>>23511906
>what is the best skill then
The one where you go ape shit and start attacking like a madman. Assault something? Whatever I forget the name. Partner it with the Limit Change skill and you can literally use it FOREVER. Makes bosses a joke.

>>23511894
Didn't really ask but you go off queen.

>>23511911
Yeah, use a high tier gauntlet you can legit just facetank any of the Neun and deck them until they die.
Limit Change giving you infinite stamina means you never fucking stop punching.

>>23511895
https://www.nexusmods.com/daemonxmachinatitanicscion/mods/13
There's a mod to learn skills without mutating further now. I don't think there's any reasonable way to control it in-game aside from either using the post-game outfit or figuring out how it works and crunching the numbers.

>>23511914
>I HAD MEMORY TO SPARE
>No you don't.
>DIDN'T ASK QUEEN YASSSSS UPVOTE ME KIND STRANGER
lol
lmao

>>23511890
Just a random pickup.

>>23511919
Jesus christ nigger, are you this desperate for a fight? I'm not writing a fucking paragraph how it ended that way because some spactic faggot can't emotionally process a stranger on the internet sad a thing that doesn't make sense in contest. Blow me, get off my dick, kill yourself, do what you gotta do, but fuck off.
Jesus christ, you niggers and your autism. Fucking hell, get some friends for fuck's sake.

>>23511925
Holy shit you're so mad. All I did was point out your "I had extra memory" statement makes no sense when half your kit is using attachments to make up for the fact you don't have enough memory. Take a fucking walk dude, getting this upset when someone points out you're contradicting yourself isn't normal human behavior.

>R8 MY BUILD
>Anon gives constructive criticism
>Proceed to have a melty
I think you're the autistic one here.

>>23511930
>Nooo! you have to justify myself to me!!! I know best!
You're annoying. I don't care what you think you know. You don't and will never know why it's like that, you just want someone to argue with and it's fucking pathetic. You're a bitch and you're annoying as fucking hell, shut up, you're annoying.
Anon, you're annoying. How many times do I have you?

>>23511935
No , you don't get this free fucking pass. If I ask you what you think of the build I ask you what you think of the build, I didn't ask you to have a psychotic episode over a comment I made five minutes later. Go fuck yourself.

Where are you getting that purple laser sword? Is this one the best avaliable? So far I´m torn between the raw power of the yellow one or the high stagger of the red one, but I haven´t seen the purple yet, so I might want to wait for it before I start grinding for a new sword

>>23511942
Ask the expert to tell you since he knows fucking everything.

>>23511942
Generally you gotta run beacons or axiom dungeons for the best gear, that or farm some endgame bosses.

>>23511941
>You're annoying. I don't care what you think you know. You don't and will never know why it's like that, you just want someone to argue with and it's fucking pathetic.
You literally asked for me to rate it. I rated it and didn't attack you once during that. Getting upset like this because I did what you asked is incredibly unreasonable, seek help. You have anger issues.

Is Amgel for (You)? She's hotter than the other chick.

>I didn't ask you to have a psychotic episode
Lmao you're the one having a psychotic episode here. You're throwing a temper tantrum because you asked for feedback and it wasn't universally positive.

>>23511949
>You literally asked for me to rate it.
>>23511941
>No , you don't get this free fucking pass. If I ask you what you think of the build I ask you what you think of the build, I didn't ask you to have a psychotic episode over a comment I made five minutes later. Go fuck yourself.

>>23511958
That comment wasn't even me, you're arguing with two people. Calm down dude holy shit, getting this mad over a shitpost is not normal, especially when what you said directly antagonized it. You were completely combative.

>>23511955
>He doesn't know
MC no way fags his way out of the game anyway
Iris is much cuter than Angel anyway

>>23511942
Here. Kill the alpha in the diamond shaped room, rinse and repeat until it drops.

>>23511962
>That comment wasn't even me
Jesus christ can you shut the fuck up already? "Waaaa It WaSnT EvEn Me" Groovy dude, hug a rainbow, the point of giving a fuck is like half an hour ago, fuck off you're annoying. I don't understand is it a language barrier, are you having a stroke? I mean, what part of "you're annoying" do you have trouble understanding? LIke I'm supposed to be the mad one, you just keep coming back in spite the fact I told you that you're annoying like six fucking times. Dude, shut the fuck up.

>>23511941
>If I ask you what you think of the build I ask you what you think of the build
I don't know how you think you're in the right here when your response to valid feedback was:
>>23511914
>Didn't really ask but you go off queen.
You did ask lmao.

>Anon posts shitter build
>Doesn't get praised for it like on plebbit
>Proceeds to shit up the thread
Kek

>>23511972
>>23511974
>>23511941
>No , you don't get this free fucking pass. If I ask you what you think of the build I ask you what you think of the build, I didn't ask you to have a psychotic episode over a comment I made five minutes later. Go fuck yourself.
Keep melting down, it was aalready addressed.

>>23511976
Next time don't ask for someone to rate your build if you're gonna get mad when they do exactly that, champ. I'm done here.

>ask for a build rate
>Dude tells me to get rid of a gun
>Make a secondary anecdote without providing context
>Faggot acts like he knows me and writes an essay
>Tell him to fuck off
>HEKKIN NO YOU HAVE TO TAKE MY EXPERT CRITICISM THIS IS ALL RELATED TO A RATE YOUR JUST MAD I DIDN'T PRAISE YOU
Funny, I don't remember telling you to fuck off when you said to take off the gun. Almost as if I didn't have a problem with you saying it as I even took it off. I didn't even really have a problem you misunderstanding even though you had a fucking atitude about it, but now I'm the bad guy because you had a fucking meltdown over a generic "didn't ask" response on 4chan?
No, next time I'll keep doing the same, I won't cater my life around your autism.
>I'm done here.
Did you seriously just announce you're leaving in an internet conversation? No wonder you got so triggered over getting called annoying, you probably hear it on a daily basis.

>>23511985
You quite literally started everything yourself with this: >>23511914 this is a combative angry reply to valid criticism.

>>23511991
>>23511941
>No , you don't get this free fucking pass. If I ask you what you think of the build I ask you what you think of the build, I didn't ask you to have a psychotic episode over a comment I made five minutes later. Go fuck yourself.

>>23511995
That doesn't apply at all. Have you lost the plot? You said you had spare memory, I pointed out you don't, and you gave me an angry combative reply. Your hidden "context" is irrelevant, you asked for a rate and I gave you one and then that pissed you off. Simple as.

Cut this shit out
None of you are going to get the last word against each other and the only thing you're doing is showing your individual inabilities to let go of an argument you'll forget hours from now.

>>23512001
Fine. You really can't let this go so I'll go over it for you.

>>23511847
I dind't really care if it's rated for not, I just posted for some fun bants, both the axe and the grav gun were just random tossin to because I had the memory that's it.
>>23511859
Anon said drop the gun to get back some memory. I already dropped the gun. It's fine.
>>23511894
I tell anon I get what he's saying, letting him know I only slotted it in because I had memory to spare. I thought the conversation would end there, the "rate" shit already end, didn't really result in bants, I had moved on.
>>23511894
NO! I know better than you, because I see what your mods are. I don't know why you have those mods in there, I don't know what decision lead to it, but I have to tell you that I see you and I know everything about you. You do NOT HaVe MeMoRy To SpAre.
That's what this fucking post was.
>>23511914
I was gonna let him know the memory mods are a carryover from another build and because I didn't feel the game was particularly hard I didn't feel the need to optimize it so it was just leftover stuff. I didn't need any additional gear or different mod, so I quite literally had the memory. But because of the latter half of his comment I justifiably thought I'm not gonna waste my time explaining myself to some faggot who didn't even ask why it's like that, just deigned to tell me that I'm wrong without knowing shit in the first place.
>>23511914
So I said didn't ask but you go off queen, the most generic innocuous "let's drop the subject" comment that ever fucking existed, but in the /m/ rules of absolute autism, I apparently raped his mother and made him watch with this one single statement, where he started having a meltdown.
I don't want to deal with it, this is why I said didn't ask, I didn't know a gaggle of niggers were gonna have an absolute meltdown which on any other board on 4chan wouldn't have even been aggressive enough to get a (You).

There. is your autism satiated?

>>23512027
>I dind't really care if it's rated for not
>>23511847
>R8
lol

>>23512027
>NO! I know better than you, because I see what your mods are. I don't know why you have those mods in there, I don't know what decision lead to it, but I have to tell you that I see you and I know everything about you. You do NOT HaVe MeMoRy To SpAre.
Anon, this is a schizoid thought process. You can't claim you have extra memory while sporting like 15 fucking memory attachments without providing context. Holy hell.

No one answered my question
How the fuck do you fight king

>>23512038
I literally just ran to him and then punched the shit out of him until he stopped moving but I was using this>>23511911 setup

>>23512038
Either punchy spam like: >>23512041 or slap on a Devotion 2 and try to outskill him while spamming heals. I've done both of these successfully.

>>23512041
>>23512045
Thank you. I'll try this when I get off work

>>23511911
>>23511916
>>23512041
>>23512045
I really do expect them to nerf this combo, like by making Limit Change only reduce stamina consumption instead of going infinite or making the skill still cost stamina during it.

>>23512051
Yeah, I'm expecting some general rebalances as well since arsenals just have no real way to answer that even on hard outside of Solomon who cheats out of his ass

what the fuck are you niggers even arguing about, talk about the game or the cute girls or fuck off

>>23512064
I wanna fuck Iris, with the arsenal suit on
There, happy now?

>>23512064
Game would have been better if Bullet joined the team tbqh

Me like Mace. Me like bonking

>>23512053
I really hope they make funnels less shitty. They break so fast...if they want then to break, at least let then regenerate after some time. Against anything with any sort of AoE, they are deployed and destroyed at the same time. Not to mention how long they take to deploy, and you gotta send out one by one...

>>23512127
>I really hope they make funnels less shitty. They break so fast...if they want then to break
Don't hold your breath. Blitz worked the EXACT same way in DxM1 and despite the community bitching that they were worthless not only did they never fix them, they added them to the sequel with exactly the same problems.

>>23512127
Funnels will always be shitty in the game because they have an actual hitbox. They only way to fix them is by using damage threshold instead.

>>23511840
Yeah but the important part is
>Fromsoft won't let you do the dumb custcene tier style over substance shit
>but Marvelous will

>>23512175
Alternatively they should give them ammo or run on femto. The fact they can die at all is REALLY stupid.

>>23512170
>>23512175
>>23512187
I know they´re like the first DxM, I hated using then there too. Those things should run on femto or just have a cooldown between uses. They want to make then break so it won´t be OP but they are useless most of the time and giving them ammo will still make then useless since they don´t deal much damage and barelly hit anything that can move. They are supposed to be annoying DoTs.

>>23512175
>>23512187
Being able to repair them by spending femto would make sense considering it can instantly teleport the armor onto your body

1200 unanalyzed keys.
16 decrypted into 16 gold keys.
I'm gonna go ahead and say if you're a casual player, don't expect to ever see a gold dungeon key.

>>23512243
Well that's what the key sharing mechanic is supposed to be for, right?

>>23512289
If the gold keys I've ran so far are any indication, I don't think anyone's gonna care about key sharing.

>>23512298
Just saying that if enough people are playing and interacting with each other, statistically everything should smooth out and work out in the end right?

>>23512311
>if enough people are playing and interacting with each other
Why would anybody do that when playing online increases load times?

>>23512311
I mean you're not wrong. They'll probably be more accessible when people start sharing them. But now that I'm going through them, there's also the problem they're not worth the rarity. They dropped nothing special.

>>23512323
They are fixing the online loading times in the next patch bro. They already commented.

Just encountered a bug where Rebellion just stops fighting and keeps jumping back into a mountain behind him instead

>want to use two guns
>every combination I've tried feels like shit and does no damage

>>23512339
I know they said that, but I'm not believing it until I see it.

Why can't I sell the revenger set?
Also holy shit just let me delete or hide the DLC weapons, this kind of shit makes me regret buying higher versions of games.

>>23512389
>revenger set
Quest item
>hide dlc items
It's 2025 gramps, get with the program

>>23512389
>Why can't I sell the revenger set?
Because it's too based and Seer's soul would haunt you until the end of your days

>>23512398
Nice screenshot, now boot up your game and have it tell you that your save is inaccessible due to missing DLC.

>>23512324
That could change within any number of update cycles though.

>>23512343
Dual smgs are busted just like the first game.

>>23512404
motherfucker
It's 2025, how don't they just take the weapons.

>>23512343
Yeah so this is a series where your DPS can live or die purely on how good your spacing is, you either need to keep track of your crit range stats and consciously build towards an overlapping optimal range, or find two of the same weapon type and internalize just how far away you need to be before you see red hitspparks flying off the target.

Otherwise, you could end up with two weapons that only really work at wildly different ranges and you're now playing the game with a Virtual On mentality of "weapon A when you're up close, weapon B when you're afar."

>>23512422
I'm more concerned with running out of ammo even when landing all crits. The existence of things that are 100% shitzones like Eclipse. The fucking bloat of the meatball, the general low damage against strayed

I got that shotgun that super fires when you hold the trigger and the thing despite devouring memory does no damage.

>>23512418
Now I get to call you gramps and there's nothing you can do about it.

how do you open the locked door in the garden?

>>23512445
>>23511774

Friendly heads up.

I'm gonna spoiler five unreleased yellow armor set Probably from the Abyss DLC, but might come from the omega boss fights, one does look like one of the bosses, so you know. Eyes up.

First time fighting Legion was... something

>>23512476
>>23512480
>>23512483
>>23512490
>>23512496
>>23512503
Set names in the filename btw.

the weapon switching is so fucking clunky and shit, why am i cycling to an EMPTY SLOT in my switch slots just to pull out my sword?

>>23512521
They got it right in the first game, I don't know why they changed it to this nonsense

>>23512521
Hold the button for a different kind of clunky shit weapon switching (it's still better if you change it to short press in settings).

>>23512480
>>23512483
>>23512490
>>23512496
>>23512503
Meh, so Zeruchroar will be DLC only, that sucks, none of those Warframe rejects look interesting either

>>23512551
A couple of them reference being obtained from omega bosses in item description, but there's no telling if it's gonna be all of them or just some.
Also stats might not be finalized because other than Zeruchrot and Zeruchweiss their icons aren't even finished but just use standard gear icons. But pretty much all of them have at least one negative defense stat, usually in physical. It seems to be a common trait for all these yellow sets to be hyper weak to at least one damage type and it may encourage buildcrafting in the minmaxing autist crowd, but I guarantee you most people will use them just as skins if they even bother obtaining them.

>>23508483 (OP)
Is the gameplay better than in the demo? Especially the melee?

Anyone else experiencing a framerate drop in the forest?

>>23512579
I only get choppy frames what I first boot up the game and then it stabilizes

>>23512398
>>revenger set
>Quest item
I don't get this shit. Just like the key for completing your first axiom facility. Like jus let me sell this shit, there's no quest any more.

Am I gonna need to lose weight for this one?

>>23512758
Just use jumping mods/abilities nigga.

>>23512758
Kind of funny, I found that with almost the same build. You can just throw on legs with the best jumping ability that you've got and it should be fine since the weight penalty for jumping isn't that high

where in the hell is this, i cant find it

>>23512502
I almost beat him on Hard first try going into the fight completely unprepared but I guess I got a good AI pattern or something. Because every attempt after that I'd just get destroyed before I could barely get him below half health. And of course Ash is useless as fuck. The Jamming devices also have short as fuck range and he likes to attack you from a distance, so trying to lure him to one is a pain in the ass too. I was not having a good time.
The Neun fights after him aren't anywhere near as obnoxious (so far) at least.

Out of curiosity do you guys recommend doing normal or hard for your first time through? I recently unlocked the 2nd region on hard and while I'm not having any trouble with the story bosses(legion was cutting it close though), it took me 3 whole resupplies to kill the triple gene big immortal in the crater. Arena was also some bullshit, it was either they could be flinched by my blade and it was super easy or I had to kite, block and parry if I had any hope of winning with rank 1 being the absolute worst for that

Anyone playing lightweight? I was thinking of trying a speedy melee buildy, but I'm not sure how good lw frames are. I see you get a lot of stm efficiency, but is that enough to survive with the lower resistances, VP, and lower memory capacity?

How do you guys play lightweight?

>>23513019
It would be one thing if Hard is giving you more drop, more exp, or some shit like that(doesn't even have to be exclusive drops), but it literally doesn't, so I don't feel the need to play on Hard just for the """""challenge""""".

>>23513019
I recommend playing on story throughout. Difficulty does not increase exp gains or quality of the drops.It's the laziest form of difficulty implementation which is stat scaling. In games like that, the easiest version is usually the correct 'balanced' version and everything above is just scaled up using a calculator with no concern for balance.
You might get a pointless unearned empty sense of accomplishment playing on the highest difficulty, but it's not the intended way to play and it's not particularly healthy psychologically either to do it purely for the sense of accomplishment as at a certain point you just become no different from a junkie chasing a high.

How are you meant to solo the base defense side mission?

>>23513028
>>23513080
Completely disagree with both. I'm playing Hard on my world and Normal when I play with a friend, and it's light and day difference of the fun factor. Hard doesn't give bosses more moves or gear, true, but it does make bosses more dangerous with +dmg and +hp, which makes the fights actually last a bit. In Normal they die too fast and they do too little damage.

And it's not even like Hard is a giant jump in difficulty, like in some games. It doesn't feel unfair at any point imo. I could understand not playing Hard if it made fights bullshit, but it does not. It just increases difficulty a little bit, nothing extreme.

Also, I find it funny that you guys mock looking for a challenge while being loot-junkies angry because hard doesn't give MORE MORE MORE MORE loot.

>>23513019
Hard is purely for the challenge. I was playing on Hard up to a little after Legion and while I was getting by ok with the story stuff, it quickly got to the point where it was just straight up not fun. At least not until you can actually get better equipment and can put a working build together.
Switched to Normal for the rest of the story and didn't regret it. Doing the optional stuff and super bosses still provided enough of a challenge where I didn't feel like I was breezing through everything. I couldn't imagine doing some of the Neun fights on Hard without a late/endgame build.

>>23513019
It feels like it'd be too easy on normal and the first game was definitely too easy all throughout until endgame online bosses, so I'd rather play on hard. If the enemy AI is too stupid to present a challenge then it can at least do more damage to try and make up for it. The penalty for dying isn't that severe anyway

>>23513100
If I wasn't clear, what I'm saying is that if you're struggling on Hard then just switch to Normal for the story and then once you hit post-game switch back to Hard.

>>23513095
>Completely disagree with both.
Ofcourse, sure, and you have a right, too.
Flatearthers disagree the earth is round. Creationists disagree it's older than 5000 years. Doesn't stop any of them from being wrong, and they get the same consideration as you. Hearing the mentally ill "I disagree" and then me not bothering to listen to the rest of the garbage they have to say after openly admitting to being objectively wrong.

>>23513028
>>23513080
>>23513100
>>23513101
I appreciate the feedback, I think I'll push forward a bit longer on hard and tone it down if it gets too egregious or maybe against the world bosses. Really my two main pain points are the world bosses which is understandable they should be hard and me brute forcing everything with blades contributes to that feeling, and the protect a target missions. Again probably an issue with my build itself but I saw one of my escorts die 5 seconds after the cutscene finished, twice in a row and defending the axiom base mission felt like luck that I managed to clear it at all so I don't think allies get a defense increase to not get mauled by the hard AI.

Should I absorb Forge's son or tell him to fuck off? It says it will mutate my head and I've gone this far without having my head fucked up. But if it's like an exclusive skill or something then whatever.

>TFW fighting am ambrosia with bazookas
Some help would have been nice, Ash...

>>23513125
Protection missions are the only time I turn the difficulty down to story since it's absolutely retarded trying to defend anything. Like that first base defense sidequest where enemies spawn from every direction and if they shoot a tower for 3 seconds it dies on hard.

Whoever decided that some bosses should have invincible phases where even if you reduce their HP to 0 they can't actually die until they finish their big epic attack and force you to wait should be fired and never work on video games again.

>>23513153
You can always fight it again from the console in the base. That's how you're meant to farm rewards from the base versions of bosses.

Is the chest ability always tied to a weight class? Like is heavy always shield and light is always wings?

>>23513244
No, it's just random.

>>23513244
Not at all.

I find it weird that Legion was kinda hard yet the following Neun assholes (so far) were far easier

Anyone got some rough numbers on how much shooting and brawling support is needed to use weapons well? I´m trying to go for the higher possible values but this usually leaves me at negative defense, usually physical, or just fucks up my memory usage. I have no idea if I´m trying too hard do maximize this or if I should focus on my defensive stats and rolling with whatever damage stats I get out of that

>>23513304
According to my testing as long as you're in the 140-160 range you're good, 200 is the peak but you're sacrificing too much to get there, mostly memory.

The general paradigm is that lightweight arms tend to have the best multipliers for attack ratings but have dogshit everyone else.
If you want to maximize your damage then it's either Explorer for melee or Demeter for Shootan, Primus Pilum is a good middle ground.
As for the mid weight arms you got Solomon's for your weeb needs as it maxes out melee but has dogshit shootan, Grief and NotChar send you a gift from DxM with the arms from their arsenal, the Claymore and Halberd arms being excellent all rounders.

Heavyweights generally play the opposite field, your amr ratings are dogshit but you got a shitload of memory unlike lightweight so you can splurge on modules and also get some other benefits like Helmsplitter's descent getting boosted by your fat ass.
Speaking of which Lightweights really, really want a Pallas head part should you want to use more powerful weapons.

The rule of thumb is simply to not get hit and not waste ammo anyway, as long as you're not using something like sniper rifles in midair or shotties you're gonna be fine.

So do you really have to spend hours flying up the tower, or did that reviewer just brute force a solution without realizing there's a better way?

>>23513295
At the point you fight him you probably don’t have that great gear unless you got lucky with a Beacon. Combine that with Ash being useless and Legion’s gimmick being incredibly obnoxious and the jamming devices being a pain to lure him towards and it’s just a really unpleasant difficulty spike early on. The gimmicks of the other Neun are very easy to deal with or just a non factor for the most part.

Where can I find the weapon arms?

Are shotguns ever good for anything other than just blasting shit while you are grabbing them?

>>23513518
Shop upgrade number 3 from the scrap lady.

>>23513019
I played all the game, did all the missions, and have done and continue to do all my post game and farming on hard.
Except for the one defense mission, the curve is pretty reasonable.

Most of the bosses (story) bosses ended up being easy anyways. And the literal I win button that is heavy armor I'm assuming is strong enough to bail you out. Ultimately it feels like a good difficulty if you like having fun and engaging with the game. Otherwise too many bosses can be brute forced by limit charging in their face and going gorilla until they die. Which is the case of normal.

sex with angel but not iris

>>23513153
It mutated your head? I just did that mission and chose to absorb and I got repair shot + another skill but it didn't warn me I would mutate and checking myself over back at base it doesn't look like I got affected(only have eyes, markings, shoulders and waist). Granted I just started the mission after my last batch of fusions so maybe that changed things

>>23513652
Might be based on other factors you’re carrying at the time?
I did it and got what’s pretty much a visor over my eyes so it didn’t morph my entire head.

>>23513659
Probably the case then. Like I said I was fresh from my fusions so I had no factors when I rolled up to that fight and checking the compendium it does show the boss' triple factor and does match the skills I picked up after fusing so I guess it just fuses the triple gene factor and whatever you have on hand.

Dreadnought is so fucking annoying holy shit.

>>23513701
Skill issue

>>23513701
make sure you're always farming with forge
The extra drops will, in the long run, dramatically lower all boss grind you do

>>23513714
Forge gives more drops vs colossals?

>>23513715
has a chance to grab an extra of either a blueprint or their core
e.g; the dreadnought I just did gave me an extra core and the one before that gave me an extra blueprint
Forge should never leave your side

>>23513717
Well shit guess I'm swapping Iris for him (Angel is too useful). Thanks bro.

The little side dungeons should really have some cards, decals, or music in them. Like why design a mini dungeon where you are running around in the dark with jammed radar when there is nothing inside except some consumables.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN77adK6T4U

Someone in the last thread asked where Zeruchroar is.

>>23513831
motherfucker
I should have known
Soon as I'm done doing this fragrach I'm fighting me a zeruchroar and praying my build can hack it.

>>23513844
No rush. Plebbit is still trying to figure out the spawn condition. I can't even get the second fort to spawn.

>>23513851
Must be having a shit ton of time in the game or hunter rank 20 or something
At any rate
I can now begin the farm.

>>23513019
Normal.
Normal implies baseline gameplay experience.
Always play games on normal the first go around unless there is explicit signaling from the devs that another difficulty is considered their intended way to play (see Alien Isolation's hard mode).

After that, you go up or down based on how bored or frustrated the game makes you feel.

>>23508504
If my run had a mid series upgrade, this would be it.

>>23513864
>Must be having a shit ton of time in the game or hunter rank 20 or something
I wouldn't say that's the criteria. I've got both of those and it's not spawning for me still.

>>23513869
That's aggrevating. I have no clue what the trigger conditions are, and on my oldest (before fusion autism) save it's still..
wait.
Are you fully fused?
Could that potentially be it?

also the prick doesn't show up in the console to refight him which probably means it's either field only or is in more areas than just this

There's going to be some secret boss tied to collecting every card

>>23513872
I will personally shoot up Marvelous if that’s the case.
I am NOT playing your shitty card game.

>>23513873
just pass me the controller gramps
I too will never fucking touch that card game until I get a strong enough deck to trivialize it

>>23513871
>Are you fully fused?
Ohoho, Anon, anything you can think of that is autism, yes, yes I have done it.

>>23513876
>that sublime metamorphosis
Aiee
I kneel

You'll despair to know that I can't get him to show up again. I was going to, if all else failed, just piggyback you onto my world to kill it. And we'd spread that shit across the general like digital aids.

>>23513876
Do people call you monster or mutant freak if you went all in into being a Skeletor?

>hit slightest bump while racing motorcycle
>proceed to bounce 20 feet in the air 3 times clip a piece of hanging debris then end up backwards and stuck

Out of curiosity, I paused the boarding sequence for the Heavy Gear, and apparently, this is how our Novas sit in them lol

>>23513923
I honestly wish they figured out a better way to limit the Heavy Gear's usage and practicality instead of simply having it be a 30-45 second devil trigger. I wanna spend all day in this thing.

Maybe repairs and ammo cost a lot of money compared to arsenals, and you can't use items, supply depots or the base to replenish them, and if it gets destroyed (easier than you think) replacing it is extremely expensive.

Would give you a reason to actually give a shit about how much money you have, no matter HOW much you have.

>>23513878
Are you in online mode? I was in offline mode trying multiple times and couldn't get the second fort to spawn. The second I tried going online I got bot hthe second for to spawn and him coming in to kill it.

>>23513951
Yeah
But let me know if you can get him to show up again after you kill him

>>23513867
Based. I also went with an upgrade of my demo build.

>>23513951
What do you mean second fort? Do you have to kill fort twice?

THE TIIIIIIIIIIIIIME HAS COME TO AND END
YEAAAAAAAAAAAH THIS IS WHAT NATURE PLANNED

>>23513963
For him to have a chance to show up, he needs to show up to kill the fort a couple minutes after the fight starts. But it's not the fort that spawns next to the warp point but rathere there's a second one that can spawn slightly to the west. You don't need to beat either of them. You just need the second one (The one to the west) to spawn and engage that one, he should show up a minute or so into the fight, if he doesn't, he's not going to.
Picrel. Green circle is where the regular one spawns. Red circle is the second one's spawn point.

How does critical range work with melee weapons?

>>23513954
Haven't had him show up a second time. What puzzles me is some had it show up in their remach simulator after beating him, but I dind't. No clue why.

>>23513992
have you beaten everything in the simulator at least once?

Zeruchroar being in the game already is odd because I'm almost done with the arsenal parts collection and there's no space for his stuff, unless it's super dupe secret that doesn't show in there and doesn't count towards the 100% completion.
Or maybe you can only get some of his weapons and the arsenal set will come with the DLC.

>>23513997
it's a full set.

>>23514004
Wait, so how does it work? It's just a skin?

>>23513995
Everything that's listed.

Grausam
Insania Rex
Lapis Lacrima
Yaiba
Gearworm
Arachne
Bullet
Legion
Gaze
Hex & Insomnia Rex
Soma
Centurion
Void in the Garden
Immortal Void
Grausam RT:α
Grausam RT:β
Cybele
Cybele RT:α
Cybele RT:β
Lapis Lacrima RT:α
Lapis Lacrima RT:β
Gunfort
Gunfort RT:α
Gunfort RT:β
Dreadnought
Dreadnought RT:α
Dreadnought RT:β
Rebellion RT:α
Rebellion RT:β
Eclipse

If there's anything else to fight, I wouldn't know about it.
Keep in mind, there might be a second encounter with him somewhere. There are two 'complete' sets in the files. I mean fully modeled with proper icons and everytihng.
(Picrel) The left is Zeruchweiss and dropped by this encounter. The right is Zeruchrot - no clue where it's from but it being completely finished unlike the other undiscovered sets which are missing icons and shit, this is probably in the game right now.

>>23514006
No, it's proper crafted set.

>>23514031
some people getting it to show up in the rematch simulator worries me a bit

>>23511814
I can consistently beat King with this set >>23511491. The satellite shield makes his laser a joke. He likes to parry a lot so you have to be careful with melee. It's safe right after he uses his laser, but when he has his shield out you need to bait his parry by cancelling your melee with a dash. Here's me beating him

https://streamable.com/dij6jo

>>23514053
Worries you for not getting it to show up for you or worries you that you want people to have to RNG into the fight every time?

>>23514069
both!
Using a pre zeruchroar save I can't get it to show up so I might just have to get lucky period.
But it showing up in the console that might either be a bug or RNG.

Both of which are very troublesome to think about

>>23514071
You don't hapen to have an autosave from the exact instance where you fought him? usually flags are prerolled on your initial entry into the area so every time you load that instance he should be there.

>>23514083
Unfortunately not. I kind of wished I made a closer save

>>23513982
Your first strike does more damage when within critical range, but then any hits that follow as part of that combo will also be critical range including switching to your weapon in the other hand; even if it's from a two-handed weapon to a 1-handed one or vice-versa. Don't think weapon skills take critical range into account at all though?

>>23514110
only two weapon skills do
Caustic blade and Demilune Slash and that's because they're just normal attack+'s

Obviously this kills some combinations of weapons.

>>23513982
The distance you begin your attack animation and associated tracking lunge from.

>>23514110
Are there any other bosses that only show up online like the second fort? Maybe he moves on and you have to cycle different bosses.

>>23514114
Is caustic blade worth anything?
Knives look kinda garbage honestly, the range is abysmal, there's only three of them and none of them are good, even the uniqque grab attack is nothing to write home about.

>>23514126
they're good at what they do on what they're meant to do it on. Which is absolutely brutalize things with weakpoints. They're "okay" at just critical range. But using them on things without weakpoints is like taking funnels to a large boss fight.

>>23514141
Yeah, problem is most things don't have weak points for you to use those butter knives on and when they do the butter knives get massively outperformed by other weapons anyway.
At least bows are good for farming DNA, especially when you get Arachne's, just don't get how to make Knives viable since they're automatically locked out of their niche for most fights in the game.

>>23514147
>the butter knives get massively outperformed by other weapons anyway.
they don't
On a well rolled knife at any rate. We're talking nearly 300 a poke on a moveset that fast right on a bosses exposed heart.

Bow's are funny because they have that insane multi. I don't actually think there's another ranged weapon that can reach bow weakpoint damage. That femto railgun with all it's massive downsides get's outdone by two arrows.

>>23514155
I don't know, I can't say I had too much luck with them even in their niche, I'd rather use an Empusa to snipe weak points honestly since I can get 1500 per shot regardless of my position and don't have to play tag with bosses considering how much they love to just jump away from you.
I don't even know which boss weakpoint you could realistically abuse with a knife considering DxM bosses' weakpoint just pop after a while and dreadnought's are beyond annoying to hit with a knife.
The only boss with a weakpoint that's easy to abuse is Insania Rex but it's a jobber that is hardly even a fight, who else even gets such an easily available weakspot and isn't a joke like again, Insania or Hypnos?

All right iron men and women give me the metafag breakdown of what weapons to look for as I have finally hit postgame in my shitty kitbash of a suit
Also did anyone else notice the Atlanta Attachment boost lets you fire guns while still boosting at full speed? Shits very fun

>>23514166
Most of my issue comes with the fact that Lance is also a weakpoint killer weapon and it's lance charge come hell or high water will put you right where that weakpoint is.

The other is the fact that Soryu exists and is frankly ridiculous with Demilune Slash. Demilune Slash is basically the tachi's version of Caustic Blade (on top of the poison it applies a damage multi). While the Soryu is easy to abuse the i-frames from it's switch attacks, does insane damage dwarfed only by the heavy hitters, and also rapes weakpoints.

>>23514092
What the fuck is this shit dude? You get anything like this? I swear the only sidequest I had is the card game finals, I don't know what this shit is talking about.

>>23514194
it's a bug(?)
Japanese twitter is filled with people talking about this

>>23514194
Also I got it to show up again
Also saves won't save you. The gunfort disappears when you load. You have to enter the zone fresh

>>23514209
And while I'm at it
This might be fucking schizo
But I think this is an "online event" that accidentally got turned on... Maybe

Because I only started seeing it again when I changed my IP. It could be coincidental. (excluding the fact that I've gotten it twice now where before I couldn't get it again past the first time) and...
Oh fuck. Assuming that's right it's going on in the background, it's a quest you get registered to without actually knowing it exists. Which is why >>23514194 happened. It was triggered and now it's not for whatever reason.

Anyways do you want to kill this one with me?

>>23514182
Laser fists with the rapid thrust kills everything.
Also yeah. I can't remember if it's the tooltip or tutorial that tells you that.

>>23514224
I really just wanna fight him again for the sake of fighting him, but if the game and the devs are gonna be a bitch about it I'm literally not above just cheating all his gear and calling it a day.

>>23514240
I'm more concerned about how some people got it to show up in replay. I'm hoping this time will unlock it

Anyways I'll keep this open for as long as it takes for him to fall over dead. Or, given how poorly this fight is going, how long it takes for ME to fall over dead.

I can't even get the second gunfort to appear, let alone zeruchroar.

>>23514249
I can't find the party.

>>23514249
Ohhh a room, mind if I join in a bit?
I can play for an hour or so.

>>23514249
Dude, thank you for telling me make sure to save. I saved, and then you initiated a teleport and my game crashed. I would have been pissed if I lost that drop.

>>23514262
I get paranoid about this game and it's crashes man
That's just as well. See if you unlocked the replay. I'm going to see if I can't brute force another one the "regular" way without changing my IP again
>>23514254
I'm assuming I'll probably still be at it if this is the only way to get these parts (right now)
But I would really like if it showed up in the replay console

>>23514251
The second gunfort won't show up in offline mode.

>>23514267
Is the party still up? It says it can't be found.

>>23514272
it's not, give me like 5 minutes just constantly loading the gunfort right now and hoping my IP tomfoolery was just a coincidence.

>>23514267
>I get paranoid about this game and it's crashes man
>That's just as well. See if you unlocked the replay. I'm going to see if I can't brute force another one the "regular" way without changing my IP again
It didn't unlock the reply unfortunately. I'm also back to trying to encounter it again.

Okay fuck this shit. Six fucking hours of trying and all I have to show for it are two fights, one of which wouldn't have even happened without an anon inviting me to his. I'm cheating this cunt's drops and calling it a day.

Rooms up. >>23514249
And yeah it's definitely IP based.

This'll probably be the last one I force... for now
>>23514328
Probably for the best

>>23514332
Can't find ya mate
Are you on PC?

>>23514349
Yeah I'm on PC, it's over now though
I'm going to figure out how to streamline this process. This can't possibly be what's necessary every single time.

>>23514362
Alright then

Thanks for the run. I picked up the blueprint for his laser rifle, it looks really good. How do you chat in game?

>>23514031
I saw Zeruchrot blueprints in the fight, it's a heavyweight set.

>>23514366
I changed my buttons but for me it's holding up

Also he has BOTH?
I only saw one set when I scanned him. Now that I think on it, that's probably why each piece only requires one cube. I obviously can't trigger another one back to back given that it 'seemingly' demands a new IP each and every time.

I'm going to go for a 3rd (fourth) on my own time just to ensure it's validity. If it's consistent (each time it shows up within 3 attempts), I'll probably set some 'thing' up after lunch for the people who want to grit their teeth and grind this out slowly.

>>23514366
>I saw Zeruchrot blueprints in the fight, it's a heavyweight set.
Yeah, saw the one thread on reddit about it says he drops both sets. Hard to tell when the fucker isn't spawning.
Whatever I may be pissy about it but I've got like 90 hours in the game already, I'm over this shit. I used a mod that let me just buy his parts from the shop. I'm bouta finna play something else until they add the omega bosses.

>>23514383
>>23514379
>Also he has BOTH?
NTA but yes, I have Zeruchroar in my sim. He drops both armor sets and three "weapons", same loot table as in DxM1. 11 loot items total, luckily each one only needs a single core to craft.

How do you get the full Revenger set?

>>23514387
It's in your sim? Did you do anything special to get it to show up?

And a completely (potentially) unrelated question. Did you play the demo and transfer the data?

>>23514392
>It's in your sim? Did you do anything special to get it to show up?
I never found him in the field. There's a JP mod people have been using that inadvertently adds him to your sim. I didn't use said mod (I am on console) but if you fight sim Zeruchroar online with someone who DID, it unlocks it for you too mod free. I did this, so he's now in my sim.

>>23514390
Do all three "Prototype" quests before Codename Shadowtaker. If you failed to do this, you're currently locked out of the full set forever.

>>23514402
Thanks

>>23514408
If it's any consolation there's 3 other missable quest parts too. I expect them to fix this and add all the missable shit as loot in an update.

>>23514410
What are they?

>>23514395
>but if you fight sim Zeruchroar online with someone who DID, it unlocks it for you too mod free. I did this, so he's now in my sim.
Link to the mod?

>>23514395
ahhh, alright it all makes sense now

>>23514415
Sword that looks like a guitar, another sword, and an auxiliary auto shield very similar to Bullet's.

>>23514419
Anon I didn't use the mod. I got no idea what it is or where to get it, I just know the guy I got Zeru from got Zeru that way. Pretty sure it doesn't have to be modded Zeru though, if you do a sim Zeru online with someone who has it you should get it unlocked too.

>>23514432
But what quests are they locked behind?

>>23514439
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11Os6xf3IGARLhjhb2gxeRFL4xXWiU6ZLiM-FQzjtKAI/edit?usp=sharing

>>23514437
I'd prefer not having to just mod his loot from a shop, I'd like to farm it. Do you mind starting up a session so we can grab the sim off you? While I can still rollback to a save from before I used the mod to just buy his shit? I really wanna farm him more than I just wanna have his gear, tee bee eich.

>>23514447
Yea sure give me like 5 minutes I'll throw up a room. Just make sure you save after the kill, if something goes wonky and we get a DC or something and you didn't save we will have to do it again.

>>23514446
>Important note: All missable items can be acquired by completing the mission in another players online party
Is there a kind soul that will let me join their sidequests?

>>23514452
I think I'll tag along too. Doing it this way instead of painfully full resetting every kill sounds like a much better time.

>>23514452
Yeah I'll make sure I save as soon as the fight is done, I've had it crash after trying to enter a load screen post-fight when the other anon let me join in on him too, thankfully I saved.

>>23514447
>>23514461
Room up, password 547232.

>>23514477
Need the other perimeters too or it says I can't find the session.

>>23514477
>can't be found

>>23514478
>>23514480
Private, fighting bosses

>>23514481
This is what I have set but it's telling me it can't find the party. Do you maybe have crossplay turned off?

>>23514481
Try setting it to All?

>>23514486
>>23514488
Changed to open and everyone, I have crossplay enabled.

>>23514486
>>23514488
>>23514492
Also Ill change the difficulty to story. Again, open/anyone/547232

>>23514496
full?

>>23514496
Can't be found.
Are the servers shitting themselves?

>>23514500
>>23514502
One of you made it in, make sure you have crossplay enabled. One open spot still.

>>23514503
Well, maybe whoever made it in can try and pass it to us because the game is not finding your party for me for some reason, maybe steam is having a meltdown, who knows.

>>23514500
>>23514502
That's 3, if you aren't in this one sorry.

>>23514512
Yeah I didn't get in. It never found the party for me.

Good job boys, make sure you save your game. Also if you could share with this guy: >>23514518 that'd be nice of you.

Thanks chief

>>23514510
Not that anon, but it might be that download region problem if you're trying to connect via Steam.
I had to set my download region to the same as a friend's to find his session.

Made a party for Zeru. Password is /m/

>>23514527
I think it's just the game being weird. I couldn't find the party either, but after I tried finding it without the password and then tried the password again, it worked.

>>23514531
wait up, I'll see if I can join

>>23514527
North America, I don't know where the other anon is but he's crossplay so it shouldn't matter.

>>23514531
one spot left

>>23514536
Original Zeru sharing anon here, I am also North America. Try to join the other guy's group, if that doesn't work I'll try a password free public lobby and you can look for my name.

>>23514536
oof do I really need to also have cross play on, fuck this buggy game

What lightweight set(s) have good physical resistance?

>>23514541
Yes, anon. If you want to play with people on other platforms you need to have crossplay on. The fuck are you even talking about? That should be obvious.
>>23514543
None to my knowledge.

>>23514539
Yeah I joined the other anon.

>>23514543
lol

>>23514544
Can't join, is the room full?

>>23514552
I'm the original host, not in that room so no idea.

>>23514552
this one has a spot left >>23514531

>>23514552
Join >>23514531
>>23514538

>>23514544
>>23514549
damn

>>23514560
I mean it makes sense. Use a high physical defense medium part if you wanna correct. You want armor? You'll have to give up speed.

>>23514565
Try again

>>23514566
Yeah you're right
Part of me was hoping there'd be a phys def equivalent to the dragon slayer or explorer stuff without needing to move weight classes

>>23514560
If by good physical resistance you mean not negative, there's the Demeter set. Good for a lightweight but not good in general.

>>23514531
Doing another run, 1 spot left again

Anyone got a gallery of all mutations yet?

It's hilarious how quick everyone switched tracks from trying to do it legit to just trying to spread the japanese mod aids to everyone.

Goddammit

>>23514605
To be fair doing it legit is so absurd that farming all his parts would take 47 years.

>>23514613
For real. I don't have a problem with cheating and modding, but I don't like doing it in games in which I enjoy the grind, so it really got to me and pissed me off that I had to mod the game to buy his parts because I oculdn't get him to spawn. Anon really made my day by giving me the replay instance so I could farm the parts legit.

>>23514605
I actually made a seperate save with the aids. I'm still trying to find out a way to unlock it legitimately in the replay, if possible
Though this reminds me of MHFU. The felyne fighters in that game could be modified with a save editor. So half a year into that games release the cats people traded with each other would sometimes come with maxed out cat stats that would cause the little fucker to 7 hit Rajang.

>>23514621
>Anon really made my day by giving me the replay instance so I could farm the parts legit.
Cheers my man, enjoy the farm. I know I am, these parts fuck.

>>23514622
>I'm still trying to find out a way to unlock it legitimately in the replay, if possible
I don't think it's possible. My guess is the sim version is planned as an eventual update with Zeruchroar currently being intended to be incredibly rare to bloat playtime. The JP mod which accidentally unlocks it will probably get Marvelous sweating real hard, especially when it's spreading the sim in public rooms too so they can't even justify banning people as many have done absolutely nothing against the EULA.

did someone try to join, I was in the testing grounds

>>23514605
I fought it legitimately in the overworld but didn't get it in my battle sim, so fuck it.

>>23514457
I'm still pretty early in the game but I'll get to these eventually and could invite people who missed them if the threads are still up and nobody else gets you them before then. Which ones did you need so I know to wait before I do them? Fair warning, it'll probably be a while. I don't get much time to play and I've been too busy exploring to even save Raven yet.

It'd be nice if anybody who hasn't done some of the stuff in >>23514446 yet could offer to invite people when they come across it until there's an official fix for the missables. I might just start using some of the extra save slots for that, actually

>>23514649
I’ve already completed the revenger story and saved guitar man (whose my permanent jukebox now)
But I’ll make saves for those followup quest items

>>23514655
>I’ve already completed the revenger story and saved guitar man (whose my permanent jukebox now)
Fun fact, the best outcome for that quest is to fail it. If you let guitar man die so you can get his guitar sword, the scrap lady will let you hire his fucking brother to be the jukebox instead.

I have made a discovery about Zeruchroar's loot pool. If you check him in the sim, it will either show the Weiss set or the Rot set and he will ONLY drop that set for that kill. If you fight him, there's a chance to reroll this, but I tried fast traveling and that ALSO rerolled the loot table. So if you're trying to farm say, Weiss parts in particular, fast travel repeatedly until you see Weiss parts in his dropped items in the sim.

>Do the ritual
>Keep missing rings and falling off the bikes
>Keep flipping in the not-hog
>Horse is the obviously worst choice and only won the race against Zanki due to him missing a ring
Fuck this shit, you can't even quit out of it outside of going back to the main menu.

>>23514689
Horse is the best choice actually, if you do have the cyber horse that is

You want to know something really stupid?
The box graphic that your weapons are displayed in can't be mirrored, which is fucking bullshit for HUD customization. You can flip the button position around but not the asymmetric graphic that clearly wants to be on the right side of your screen when what I want is for it and the other 3 of its ilk surrounding the center crosshair like I used to have in the first game.

What's that shadowy stuff coming out Nova when you fight Void? Is that supposed to be their unique ability?

>>23514756
Limit change. It's a fusion skill.

>>23514756
Limit Change visually, but it doesn't do anything during the fight. They just want you to look cool.

>>23514689
Use the horse with the wing particle armament

Is this the 8 hour tower I hear about?

Goddamn, these new gargs really do force you to go ham on them

>>23514899
In DxM1 they just had a ton of health, in DxM2 they actively regen and do so QUICKLY. It's a DPS check for your build.

>>23514902
Yeah, I'm just calling Gearworm's Dann of Thursday and they STILL manage to tank most of the cannon shots, they're clearly made for multiple players to wail on them or very specific DPS builds.

Man why the fuck do all the yellow sets have a straight up negative defense on some shit? I mixed the two Zeru sets and added a bunch of physical defense mods just to be able to use a yellow set that can't be one-shot by a generic enemy using a stick. I know I could have just kept my futsunushi set but I really wanted to use a yellow one.

I'm tasteless nigger

>>23514964
...Why are you having rarity color autism? You can make any part look like any other anyway, the fuck does it matter? Parts are largely just for stats, and the fashion is irrelevant thanks to the transmog. If it's best for your build, use it. Sometimes that means using blue/purple shit, the rarity system isn't black/white.

>>23514987
>...Why are you having rarity color autism?
Because I do.

>>23514989
Then that's on you sport, not the game.

>>23514992
No, not on me. I didn't decide that every yellow set needs to have -42069 in a random defense stat. And I sure as hell didn't implement that either. So my criticism that they have a shit weakness isn't on me, it's just direct observation of an objective fact.

Continuing to inject genes after you've unlocked all abilities gives you a nightmare where you walk through the desert and then a (I assume) game over screen that just says "FLATLINE" in the same glitched letters as the secret factory, and then you're back in the base.

>>23514987
Is there a purple lightweight armor set. I've seen alot of midweights and the two heavyweights, but havent seen a new lightweight set since Auxo.

>>23515023
Like so.

>>23515006
Caring about it isn't valid criticism. This is autistic. It's a mech building game, no part is universally best regardless of some color system. If you can't grasp this, you're a tourist and don't understand the genre.

>>23515027
Explorer is purple and the best lightweight set in the game. Absurd speed and combat stats at the cost of the worst physical defense possible.

>>23515052
*Primus Pilum

>>23515059
Primus does not have anywhere near as much speed or offensive stats as Explorer. It doesn't have as much stamina either.

>>23515052
>>23515059
So what you are telling me, is i gotta farm bosses for my next lightweight rank other wise switch to mid or heavy.

>>23515063
Correct.

>>23515061
Defense is ideal in this case because i have nowhere near the mutations needed to run it with out worry and make up for that lack of defense.

So are facilities just ass or is good loot just extremely rare to come across? Even the single gold facility I got had mediocre purple loot you can find in the overworld.

>>23515063
The adversity us speedy niggas face...

>>23515051
>Caring about it isn't valid criticism. This is autistic.
It is, it's extremely autistic that you care so much about an online stranger stating that yellow sets having negative defense is weird.
You can insult me all you want, you can call me whatever you want. it won't change the fact you're going schizo over someone stating the objective truth.

>>23515068
That doesn't make it the best "lightweight" though. Explorer is the penultimate "go fast with a glass ass" frame. Primus trades speed and offensive performance for more armor and memory. It's like a lightweight set that wants to try and have midweight tier defenses (granted it has literally 0 bullet/laser defense, but strong neutral defense and solid VP to compensate).

>>23515075
I'm not really asking for the best, i just need a sturdier lightweight set for where im at right now. Dealing with the 2nd legion fight.

>>23515080
Then Primus is your best bet, yeah. It's really the only "sturdy" lightweight set with high well-rounded stats otherwise. It's just not the fastest or highest stamina by a pretty fair margin.

>>23515085

If it's just as fast or faster than Auxo it's a welcomed upgrade right now

>>23515087
It's faster and more durable than Auxo, actually. It just has less stamina and resistances.

Is there something that can negate/drain stat items?

I've tried using Defense Up L and it drained in less than 30 seconds, but Defense Up S lasts so long I almost forget its there

>>23511417
Is might chest the way to have somewhat defined breasts?

>>23515061
Primus Pilum is the second fastest set in the game and the increase you get from Explorer isn't meaningful past that point.
Explorer arms do have higher melee modifiers but they have like 4000 less VP and overall worse defense outside of the high laser modifier which I'm honestly not sure matters much given Primus gear has straight up 300 more points or so in its basic defense modifier, which means you can actually survive things if you ever get hit, a gunfort won't melt you just by looking at you funny.
The tradeoff between Explorer and Primus is that full Explorer has a bit more speed, a bit better melee modifiers and the helm has longer lock if you want to use sniper rifles or a bow, Primus has way more VP, has bonus for Femto consumption, more base defense and generally a bit more memory as well, Explorer is a glass cannon meant for light loadout with specific weapons like knives, snipers and bows, Primus is an actual lightweight meant to fight at melee range or with more balanced loadouts.
Primus also lends itself more to clownsuits due to the more rounded statline.
>>23515063
Yes, you either farm Arachne or Bullet or farm Centurion

Hey anons, let me ask you something.
Is the game fucky with the shaders for you?
Like this mech >>23514964 Is this red or orange on the shoulders? Because I use red channels, but it looks so fucking orange in the game.

>>23515121
Could be color grading in-game, could be your display is fucked in color balance.
Red and orange neighbor each other hue-wise anyway so they can situationally blur together into a same-color situation.

>>23515119
>and the increase you get from Explorer isn't meaningful past that point.
You're insane, the speed on the Explorer body makes the Primus one look slow as hell.