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https://www.inka-subs.net/2025/10/armor-hunter-merowlink-mellowlink-9-12-batch/

Episodes 9-12 of the classic 1988 OVA set in the VOTOMS universe.

Thank you to Touge, Greyscale Studios, ImAWasteOfHair, and wowmd. Thank you to LowPower-Raws for their encode. Full batch coming soon.

If you're confused about the spelling of the main character's name, read more here:
https://www.inka-subs.net/2024/11/mellowlink-vs-merowlink/

Can you just stop being a sperg? We rejected Caphi trying to rename Shin Getter as "Omega Getter", and we'll reject you too.

>>23577432 (OP)
It's literally on Web Archive for free

>>23577455
wasn't my call, the translator threatened to pull out if i didn't let him spell it like that. that's what that whole blog post is about, and why we have two sub tracks.

>>23577460
>the translator threatened to pull out if i didn't let him spell it like that

>>23577455
Tell the Japanese to stop being spergs then. The TL got this spelling from Japanese sources, it didn't just occur to him as a better romanization. The English name devised by the staff is Leechers Army Merowlink, all merch and even signs in the show spell the name as Merowlink. The only people renaming anything are the guys who wrote that one fanzine in the 80s that spelled it Mellowlink that the entire English world got the name from.

>>23577460
Why in the unholy fuck would you work with a manchild like that? You seriously couldn't just say "shut the fuck up that's retarded"?

>>23577527
Because there's very few fansubbers out there.

Here's another question: Can you confirm that the autistic translator did this by himself, and didn't use any AIslop methods as a shortcut?

>>23577460
That's pathetic, you are a joke

>>23577527
Of all of the absurdly petty and autistic things a translator could get hung up on, this is honestly not so bad (relatively easy to put a second version out with the more common rendering of the name, as opposed to some guy getting a bug up his ass about the actual substance or meaning of stuff in the script)

>>23577540
"Omega Getter" is pretty fucking bad because not only is it completely OBJECTIVELY wrong but it's not even an accepted term anywhere.
It might be a small thing but it's indicative of a way bigger problem.

>>23577541
Oh yeah, no, that one specifically's fucking egregious, I'm only being charitable here over Mellowlink/Merowlink

>>23577432 (OP)
more dendoh when

>>23577527
>>23577532
>>23577539
the translator is the same translator doing ippatsuman, he does good work, hence why we couldn't drop him from this project that he started over some naming autism. i don't know why everyone's freaking out now when this has been the case for the previous two batches as well, ironically i predicted all of this drama and tried to use it as an argument for why we shouldn't die on the merowlink hill, but i obviously got ignored. i offered to compromise and call it Marrowlink, but honestly that'd just make more people mad, this is obviously very contentious.
>>23577554
lexi finally finished translation back in august, star has two eps to edit as of today, and right now none of it has been qc'd. i wouldn't expect anything before next year, unfortunately. don't count out a christmas release though.

>>23577455
>>23577532
I've talked to the TL about this and heard his reasoning first hand. I was skeptical of it, but he's absolutely correct in that this is the proper spelling as intended by the original creators.

Both soundtrack albums have the name in English letters, as "Leechers Army Merowlink"
https://vgmdb.net/album/52641
https://vgmdb.net/album/52613

The official Japanese Votoms website spells it as that
https://www.votoms.net/about/05.php

The Takara Tomy "Leechers Army Merowlink with Action Bike" action figure spells it like that
https://auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c1171497653

JP Wikipedia has the Leechers Army Merowlink name, with a note that Armor Hunter is a more direct translation
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%A9%9F%E7%94%B2%E7%8C%9F%E5%85%B5%E3%83%A1%E3%83%AD%E3%82%A6%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AF#%E7%94%A8%E8%AA%9E

Even his dogtag in the animation spells out "Merowlink" in Astragius alphabet (aka Latin letters but weird) - picrel

You can find this spelling weird because the English speaking world has been using Mellowlink for over 3 decades now, but it's how it's spelled in Japanese sources, and I'm not currently aware of any other Sunrise IPs where an official spelling like this is not used, even when the JP part of the name is completely different.

For an analogy, imagine for a second that someone called Evangelion "Ebangerion" in a fan magazine and people ran with it, never having seen the show. Would the guy insisting on "Evangelion" be the sperg? No, he has plenty of sources, including the show and a slew of official material, to prove him right.

Write all the cope you want, its still pathetic

>>23577581
>For an analogy, imagine for a second that someone called Evangelion "Ebangerion" in a fan magazine and people ran with it, never having seen the show. Would the guy insisting on "Evangelion" be the sperg? No, he has plenty of sources, including the show and a slew of official material, to prove him right.
or "children" vs "child"

>>23577460
Is that Jenny or someone else? You need some quality control, man

>>23577581
Some companies have been known to be inconsistent though, especially with romanizations and style guides. Certainly doesn't help the confusion.

>>23577432 (OP)
Enjoyed your batches when I realized that the other one stopped subbing the episode previews, but watched the rest of the previews with foreign subs because I couldn't wait. Thank you for the release regardless, I'm glad there's both options for the name, I get his reasoning for sticking with the weirder name that existed in other works, but am grateful that we have an option for the more natural-sounding Mellow also.
>why do you care about the episode previews so much
Because a friend is narrating it, and I feel it's important to the show because it's essentially his monologue on what Mellow's about to deal with next
>mfw 0 posts about the actual plot or finale

>>23577465
It's Merowlink.

>>23577606
>says 'mech' instead of 'mecha'

>>23577460
You'd get a better response to this if you just said that's what the name is, and not bring in the translator throwing a fit over it. It sounds like even you weren't convinced.

>>23578153
>You'd get a better response to this if you just said that's what the name is
>It sounds like even you weren't convinced.
He all but spelled it out, but didn't want to lose the otherwise decent translator. So there's the subtitles with the strange name, and an included set of subtitles that has the horrible fake and wrong name that the guy hates. I think that's a pretty small compromise, we got better subs and just have to make two mouse clicks per episode (I don't know how to change the settings on MPC)

>>23578153
>>23578181
darkcart's ability to communicate in the most destructive way possible is honestly amazing.

Ask your translator buddy if he's willing to do Trider G7.

>>23577970
tourist detected

>>23577432 (OP)
Why should I watch this over the regular sub

>>23578690
The episode previews are all subbed, for one
I think it was also more accurate

>>23578511
LMAO speak for your fucking self

OP is your friend will to do Vifam 13? Balatach? Godam? Mighty Jack? Mach Baron? Those are all things worth a shot at subbing. Granzort is probably never going to be finished from GANGO so that's worth a shot (plus Granzort is a much better version of Rayearth).
>>23578256
That's been subbed.

>>23578766
If his friend is someone besides Aku, there's a likelier chance, fingers crossed.

>>23578766
No it isn't. ARR aren't a sub group, they're a prank on /m/'s standards for fansubs.

>>23578762
i'm sorry anon but you don't even know what the name of the board means, you're not one of us

lol I had completely forgotten about the autism surrounding this translation for mellowlink. I see nothing has changed

>>23579485
Checkfuckingmate.

>>23577432 (OP)
Thanks.

>>23577432 (OP)
>merrowlink

>>23577581
>the original creators are Japanese and 40 years ago they weren't good at english, therefore we will stick with engrish
ok
>imagine if Anno spelled Evangelion as Ebangerion on screen once and all the fansubbers stuck with that as the official title for the next 20 years
waow

I haven't laughed this hard at a thread in 5 years. What in the manner of fuck is this.

This is the most autistic thread I have ever seen on this board

>>23577581
>imagine for a second that someone called Evangelion "Ebangerion" in a fan magazine and people ran with it, never having seen the show.
There's a lot of stupid shit that Khara has forced on the official releases that people have either blindly followed or rejected.

>>23577432 (OP)
Does anybody here had a nya account to upload this!?

https://x.com/DoseofDhillon/status/1979742402605973801?t=MuYsgCJoDlhOAGNhDkXQjA&s=19

>>23582397
>”He is a Char” and “DANGAR” in Zeta Gundam are meant to be treated 100% seriously according to fansubbers
I kneel

>>23583506
It clearly is SHA, you brainlet

>>23577616
I don’t see the problem when it’s a made up space name.

>>23583506
You obviously weren't there when Gundam Seed was first being released.
Or even when Seed Freedom was being released last year.

>>23583416
That very mega is linked in the nyaa comments of some random Raideen releases. Also the subs are still the same old shit, ARR and everything, which is probably why nobody uploaded it separately. The release on AB with Hulu video also doesn't fix the colorspace issue. I'd rather try and get star back on Raideen once Dragonar is done (it's rapidly progressing through QC rn) than upload incrementally less dogshit muxes.

>>23583506
>>23582397
There's a difference between Engrish and made-up names.
Merowlink is a made-up name. It's not related to any real word, much less an English one, as far as anyone can tell. "Mellow" is just a guess by some university student in the 80s who ran a fanzine. Tim Eldred had the name as "Melorink" for the longest time, before switching to Merowlink. For these kinds of names, you have to either go with the Japanese and what they tell you, or, when there is no reliable source, figure out what you think is most likely. That usually doesn't apply to show titles though, especially Sunrise keeps those consistent. It's more of an issue for obscure mecha or side characters. For Sunrise original shows, specifically, we always use the staff-provided romanization. Unless you want to tell me Vifam is a real word and anyone but the original creator can tell you how it's spelled.

In this case, the Japanese are 100% consistent. It's always Merowlink, be it in the show (his dogtag was designed to be in the OP, they definitely did not typo on that), on the DVD box, on merchandise, in the art book, on the official website, on fucking Wikipedia. It's as official as Char, and as official as Chirico as opposed to any other romanization of that name (Kiriko is a girl's name btw). The show never getting licensed is what makes this "argument" even real. Sunrise would insist that the show is called Merowlink in its English release, maybe even Leechers Army Merowlink (though they have been lenient with bynames in the past).

>>23583879
>once Dragonar is done (it's rapidly progressing through QC rn)
quick tangent here: there's a line I'd like to help with. Minor stuff but the dictionary definition was used but there's a better alternative.

>>23583879
>Dragonar
UMM, EXCUSE ME
Don't you mean "Doragunaa"????????

>>23583879
Even as a made up name it sounds better to my ear if its comprised of recognizable sounds. Merow just sounds like engrish, its unnatural or at least it doesn't sound like something a native english speaker would come up with. Mellow and Link are both english words I can in my brain accept his name means something like 'softly joined' or 'calm coupling', maybe his parents had really slow low-intensity sex, all I get from Merowlink is nips can't into L and R.

>>23583977
The script has been extensively revised (it wouldn't have taken the better part of four years otherwise), so chances are the line you're thinking of has already been edited.

>>23583987
Sorry, I only use official romanization.

>>23584033
For the record, I don't think Mellowlink is a terrible guess (it wouldn't have stuck around for so long otherwise), but that's like saying Zabungle (or maybe even The Bungle, adjusting for the Engrish za) is a good guess for Xabungle.
The メロウ in his name can in fact mean mellow, but it's also homophonous with 女郎, meaning "bitch". Whether either of that was done intentionally, who knows. Ryousuke Takahashi seemed to think it was a "sweet name", but whether that's just because of how it sounds in Japanese, or because of the English meaning of part of the name is anyone's guess. Even if it was because of the English though, it would be quite like Takahashi to obscure it like he did with Votoms, which he has confirmed derives from and carries the meaning of "bottom of the barrel". And nobody's campaigning to change that name to "Bottoms" or something like that.
Merow is a bit unusual in English, but we do have the Merovingians, royal dynasty of the Franks, carrying a very similar name in Western Europe, and other names and terms containing mero.

Here are some cool interviews regarding the show and its production, though that one comment by Takahashi is the only thing regarding the name.
https://timeldred.com/merowlinktakahashi/
https://timeldred.com/merowlinkstaff/

stop calling it Patlabor

>>23583506
Dangar is the name of the poison gas

>>23584192
>Patlabor
Know that it has translations, I wish someone would pick Vicious Horse Grooming Up!

>>23584185
There are also some Votoms names whose official spellings are off compared to what fansubbers assumed too. Take the creepy-ass twins.
>Arron and Gurran, Aaron and Gran, or combos like that
>Official: Alon and Glan

Many other such cases as well

>>23585190
So similar to Gunsmith Cats where Rally is actually Larry?

>>23583879
>Dragonar
I hope you're calling it Dragoonar because it's a made-up word that obviously references dragoons.

>>23585460
That's retarded because the show already has Dragoons in it so you don't need to retrofit it to the main title. ドラグナー doesn't have the "goon" in it anyways.

>>23577432 (OP)
Thanks.

>>23577460
But why not Merowrink though?

>>23577432 (OP)
Nice. I'm going to have to rewatch the series soon

>>23591166
Do it now!

>>23594318
Or else?

So are we getting ANY new fansub projects next? Granzort has had zero progress from GANGO in the last year and a half.
>>23594319
He'll sic some werewolves on you, anon! =O

>>23582707
honestly this almost feels like an mneidengard throwback thread

>>23577581
I mean, it should really be called "New Anime Century Gospel".