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Anonymous No.42416649 [Report] >>42417100 >>42417105 >>42417118 >>42418929 >>42419356 >>42420561 >>42420712 >>42424638 >>42435380 >>42444063
Analyzing the Hasbro email leaks
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/38568401/#38584513
Anonymous No.42416991 [Report] >>42417064
Yes executives are out of touch psychos who never passed elementary grade school.
Anonymous No.42417064 [Report] >>42429713
>>42416991
So why don't they fuck off where they belong? together with the investors & producers just signing papers behind the counter and letting the actual creatives do their fucking job without executive meddling?
Anonymous No.42417100 [Report]
>>42416649 (OP)
Jesus is such amateur hour
>muh mic drop
Cringe as fuck.
Anonymous No.42417105 [Report] >>42417121 >>42417199 >>42417676 >>42421188
>>42416649 (OP)
Why are Millennials obsessed with "*mic drop*"?
Anonymous No.42417118 [Report] >>42445668
>>42416649 (OP)
*mic drops* PWNED
Anonymous No.42417121 [Report]
>>42417105
While wearing a fedora.
Anonymous No.42417199 [Report]
>>42417105
Well, if the email leak is evidence, it reveals that think they can say something stupid, follow it up with "mic drop" and then everyone will think it's profound.
Anonymous No.42417676 [Report] >>42418931
>>42417105
The sad part is that the staff are gen-X
Anonymous No.42418929 [Report] >>42426190
>>42416649 (OP)
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, which
,so
run-on sentences up the ass

Are the staff members secretly AI?
Anonymous No.42418931 [Report]
>>42417676
That's embarrassing.
Anonymous No.42419356 [Report] >>42419363 >>42419859 >>42420177 >>42421771 >>42423435 >>42433787
>>42416649 (OP)
I’ve actually never seen this one before. This is fucking embarrassing. These retarded losers remembered they were making a little girls’ show about friendship, right? The “le edgy” bullshit is such fucking cringe.

If I’m reading it right, that “mic drop” shite was actually from Hasbro? God, what humiliating fucking cringe. I’ve been denying that they were the major cause of the season’s shitification and have instead been putting it more on Haber, but if they thought this sounded good, they’re fucking retards.

And look, obviously within the broader context of the villains all being killed in the actual ending we got, the fact that “Grogar” THREATENED them (which he still did in the actual episode) just makes it all the worse by completely taking away their agency in this abominably godawful “story,” but I also know that there was a totally different story going early on and that this may be from that. Still reads like utter cringe regardless. Hacks like this belong on DeviantArt, not real television writing.

Cozy Glow IS at least more in character here. I was talking about this a little bit ago, but “friendship for evil” was supposed to be her thing. But they were so utterly clueless as to what this shit was even supposed to be that they forgot that for at least a few crucial moments, including the end of “Frenemies” and the scene in the two-part finale where they’re planning on having the separate kingdoms.

Most people probably missed this intention because it was so clunkily written and obviously went against what the actually memorable scenes show, but what they were trying to say is that the three of them can’t stand each other and so their stoning is “ironic,” because it forces them to be “together forever.” And yes, that hugely contradicts the vast majority of scenes where they’re getting along better than the Mane Six, but this season was basically finished before they changed the story. Full episodes were written and animation had begun and then they changed everything. That’s why it feels like there’s no consistent story. Because there isn’t. They changed it and had to leave many scenes from the original story.

I think I’m going to do a YouTube video called “My Little Pony Season 9: What Went Wrong?” or something like that, because it’s fascinating how awful it was and I have A LOT to say.

I’m going to need to put together a document of all these leaks and take notes on all the information, though. Again, I hadn’t even seen this one.
Anonymous No.42419363 [Report]
>>42419356
Based Gollyflag.
Anonymous No.42419859 [Report]
>>42419356
Gollyfag just dropped the mic on those execs
Anonymous No.42420177 [Report]
>>42419356
I FWUARKING KNEEL
Anonymous No.42420561 [Report]
>>42416649 (OP)
I too drop my mic like my fellow zoomers
Anonymous No.42420712 [Report]
>>42416649 (OP)
In those email leaks it reveals that the executives were aware they treated every character like garbage because when that shitty guest actor for Autumn Blaze comes they have a little "talk" about not making her character look like an asshole and a loser similar to Spike.
Anyone got the interview where they talk about the Ending of the End?
Anonymous No.42421188 [Report] >>42421761
>>42417105
Because they're m*llennials.
Anonymous No.42421253 [Report] >>42421778 >>42423571
What did he mean by that?
Anonymous No.42421761 [Report]
>>42421188
Because you're a gen-Zer
Anonymous No.42421771 [Report]
>>42419356
>DeviantArt
Don't denigrate them to this extent. These execs belong jobless
Anonymous No.42421778 [Report] >>42423571
>>42421253
Is that real?
Anonymous No.42422724 [Report] >>42426867
ANALyze
Anonymous No.42422941 [Report]
ANALLY
Anonymous No.42423435 [Report] >>42424593
>>42419356
>that “mic drop” shite was actually from Hasbro?
No, I think that's an internal DHX one or one between Haber/the writers. Hasbro execs tended to be more formal, have proper etiquette, and formatted using bullet points in their emails, like pic related from Eliza Hart, who was worried the Summer Sun episode and series finale would be too similar to each other and also too similar to parts of the movie.
Anonymous No.42423571 [Report]
>>42421253
>>42421778
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/31565687/
Anonymous No.42424593 [Report] >>42424613 >>42426202 >>42426386
>>42423435
What's this bitch doing giving suggestions? Bitch you're an executive, not a writer. Know your fucking place. Bunch of busybodies, bitch you're supposed to sell toys, not care about the writing you have no experience in. What a dumb egotistical bitch.

Also who are Jada McDermott, Devon Cody, Zoe Borroz and Mike Myhre?
Anonymous No.42424613 [Report] >>42424616 >>42424667 >>42438370
>>42424593
>What's this bitch doing giving suggestions? Bitch you're an executive, not a writer. Know your fucking place.
When you’ve got writers as fucking horrible as this, how is this actually something you can bitch about? It was actually a Hasbro exec that said “No more school shit,” so they at least know better than Haber.
Anonymous No.42424616 [Report] >>42424626
>>42424613
Imagine the look on the exec faces when line plummeted every time a school of friendshit episode aired.
Anonymous No.42424626 [Report]
>>42424616
"A Royal Problem" Mike Myhre Joanna Lewis & Kristine Songco June 10, 2017[nb 10] 710 0.15

>0.15 (150k viewers)
Executive: We can't even reach 0.73(730k) like Princess Twilight Sparkle!! the line is PLUMMETING, DO SOMETHING
>More school, lol
AAAHHHH WE ARE NOT FILLY FUNTASIA OR HARRY POTTER. FIX THE VIEWERSHIP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_My_Little_Pony:_Friendship_Is_Magic_episodes
Anonymous No.42424638 [Report]
>>42416649 (OP)
thank god daybreaker silenced these critters
Anonymous No.42424667 [Report] >>42424671
>>42424613
Still insane to realize the soulless execs were somehow better than the "creative drive" of the show at a time. Fagber should be blacklisted from the industry for life.
Anonymous No.42424671 [Report] >>42424683
>>42424667
Pointless, he's not getting another job anyways.
Anonymous No.42424683 [Report] >>42424794
>>42424671
>https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1285303/
>no jobs since 2023
>not even for shittiest kiddie trash
The industry is healing.
Anonymous No.42424794 [Report]
>>42424683
For a moment I thought he wrote something in 2025, but he didn't.
It appears that way because it doesn't have a date attached to it so it defaults to 2025. You can tell he wrote it a while ago by comparing dates with other episodes of the same show.
Anonymous No.42424811 [Report] >>42424819 >>42424826 >>42425990
Jim Miller has said he hasn't had a job in 5 years and 6 months.
Anonymous No.42424819 [Report]
>>42424811
Doesn’t he work on “Strawberry Shortcake”?
Anonymous No.42424826 [Report] >>42424828 >>42428386
>>42424811
Jim is a good goy so Vogel got him to work on that Strawberry Shortcake reboot with tranny propaganda.
Anonymous No.42424828 [Report] >>42425970 >>42425990
>>42424826
Something doesn't add up here either Imdb is lying or Miller is lying like a cunt again. God what the fuck is wrong with these types they lie about anything and everything.
Anonymous No.42424831 [Report]
I am praying for Hasbro's downfall. I hope that company burns and every single ip it owns dies forever.
Anonymous No.42425949 [Report]
Murder Hasbro.
Anonymous No.42425970 [Report] >>42425990
>>42424828
Did he actually say that he hadn’t had a job since MLP ended somewhere? It’s not surprising that he worked on it if you’ve seen anything from the show. It has a lot of the recognizable DHX style to it, so I just mentioned that I thought he did without even checking.
Anonymous No.42425990 [Report]
>>42424811
>>42424828
>>42425970
I found it. His actual statement was that he hasn’t worked on THE show since it ended. Which is kinda self-explanatory, obviously he can’t work on something that’s over, but I think what he meant was that he hasn’t been a part of the franchise at all since then. He said nothing about not having any job.

I’m personally of the opinion that Miller gets unnecessary blame due to constantly feeling the need to defend horrible writing choices, and by saying “we” about writing choices made. On the one hand, this could be seen as him sorta taking credit for other people’s work, but he knew it was fucking bad, so in actuality, he was just willing to take the blame for no real reason. The real people who deserve the hate are Haber, Vogel and Nubuc, plus the Hasbro executives that allowed their monstrosity to happen.

Though the extent to which any individual awful decision was more on Hasbro or more on the writers is hard to tell, it’s definitely not the animators’ fault. And that’s even with the meme faces being accounted for. The showrunner has a say in the visual style they go for. Haber is the #1 person that I blame based on all available evidence. He didn’t act alone, but all of the godawfulness could’ve been prevented if he had any competence. And not surprisingly, he’s the one who ACTUALLY hasn’t worked on TV in years.
Anonymous No.42426167 [Report] >>42426318
Jesus Christ their interviews are so unpopular I can't even search them on Youtube correctly. All of them barely have 700 views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRliouRL2Mk&ab_channel=BABSCon
Anonymous No.42426190 [Report]
>>42418929
They have the same amount of agency.
Anonymous No.42426202 [Report] >>42426330
>>42424593
If execs hadn't stepped in, all the Mane 6 would've had boyfriends, per Faust's original plans. Also, AJ would've had head trauma from bonking trees.
Anonymous No.42426318 [Report] >>42426319 >>42426330 >>42426386
>>42426167
>Nicole Dubuc: Hasbro presented to us to introduce 6 new pony characters
>Nicole Dubuc: When we started talking we thought ****very strongly**** they shouldn't be pony characters cause we thought that would be even more of just the same??? in the harmony with the mane6??? (confused, redundant, ironic)
https://youtu.be/PRliouRL2Mk?t=842

Absolute retardation.
All 3 of these retards despite their colored eyes and white skin have sandnigger DNA in them, I recognize arabian mutt scum when I see and hear one. They behave like immature selfish 12 year olds just from the way they speak. Haber isn't hiding it, Vogel is barely hiding it, Dubuc is trying to hide it but failing badly at it and exuding bitch energy.

Nicole Dubuc seems like a bitch that's faking being a nice girl when she's a big-ass executive. I recognize her derogatory redunant questions immediately together with her body language but she's still just a dumbass.
Josh Haber ironically is outright stating he has no experience writing and is just fooling around.
But Mike Vogel's expressions and way he reacts is something else entirely .... he reminds me of my metaphorically retarded cousin who still didn't get his bachelor's degree. He even reminds me of myself when I stare into a camera and insecurely comb my hair and stare in a corner. I recognize his gestures. He's an ADHD freak.
His fucking eyes, man. The eyes never lie.

And that fat bitch at Babscon, I can't tell if it's a man or a woman, seems either completely disinterested or completely trying to hide his disgust.

But anyway once again a garbage interview that doesn't answer any real details... all 3 of them seem completely delusional "We didn't know if Hasbro was going to let us do that" bitch, YOU ARE HASBRO. Literally Vice President of Hasbro Studios, what the fuck kind hypocrism and contradicting lie on top of 9 layers of hell lying is this? My IQ is dropping listening to them while learning new ways to be delusional and a complete hypocrite.
>like, like, like, like, like, like, like you know, you know
Hearing a bunch of gen-Xers talk like zoomers makes me twitch.

The director behind G5 was a million times more mature and what he said didn't come off as a delusional retard that doesn't understand what he's talking about and is being hypocritical as shit.

Stop drinking wine you ugly jawed bitch. You were barely 41 back then and you look 65+ fucking turkroach. God she looks like she takes drugs and eats paint. I've seen another 45+ year old who looked anorexic and in his 60s and in his 30s he looked really good, but the dumbass started smoking weed and inhaling paint and that's how ended up looking 20 years older than he was and skinny as shit.
Anonymous No.42426319 [Report] >>42426322 >>42426340 >>42426353 >>42427161
>>42426318

https://youtu.be/PRliouRL2Mk?t=1525
Jesus fucking Christ it's like a kindergartner or a spEds, not 1 of them educated the other what went wrong and instead you get that dumb wine-drinking bitch pointing out like a 12 year old "It's almost heartbreaking in your episode, Vogel cause like they're about to become friends" jesus christ even this bitch cannot stop using "like" exactly like a teenager hippy.
And fat that bitch shuts up instead of trying to educated and just goes onto the next question.
Journalism isn't what it used to be.

https://youtu.be/PRliouRL2Mk?t=1708
>You got the finale, Josh
>Vogel starts smiling under his nose
ADHD freak can't keep a poker face to save his life. Vogel was in charge of the finale, as usual.

>Everyone crossing their fingers like a teenager trying to hide something

Josh Haber just inadvertedly said Vogel & Dubuc wrote the finale.

A very shit interview as usual where you cannot get confessions out of them worth a shit.
You can only infer information from the context at large "We've done Twilight being anxious and panic attacks before we can't do it again"

https://youtu.be/PRliouRL2Mk?t=2078

https://youtu.be/PRliouRL2Mk?t=2197
Caught Haber rolling his eyes, once again showing Vogel is in charge and Haber is sick of the lying bullshit "Yeah right you and me, there is no me, there's only you" or who knows why he did but it continues to show his immaturity, only 14 year old girls do that bullshit.

https://youtu.be/PRliouRL2Mk?t=2418

>Vogel: Cozy Glow is these two creation
>Haber quickly points to Dubuc, not wanting any part in the blame and also quickly correcting Vogel
Anonymous No.42426322 [Report]
>>42426319

>https://youtu.be/PRliouRL2Mk?t=2556
>I wish we had gotten to Saddle Arabia
>It's such a design lift to make a whole another world with brand new characters
AHAHAHAHHAHA I TOLD YOU, I TOLD YOU. Arab mutt genes. All 3 of them are gypsies. The gypsy genes are strong.
These people aren't white. It explains their personalities and way of being. It's in their nature.

https://youtu.be/PRliouRL2Mk?t=2569
The fat bastard asks a very good question(could have been better) and Dubuc goes on to say retarded shit I can easily infer that no she does not have any real plan for the story, she just wanted some retarded tourist attraction like it's Manehattan wihout even being capable of writing heartfelt stuff or funny hijinks. Oh they would have figured it out on location, MY ASS.
Dubuc has that pseudo intellectual demeanour in her where she pretends to be in control and thinks she's above everyone else while spouting some really dumb nothings, some really dumb shit that says how dumb she is.

https://youtu.be/PRliouRL2Mk?t=2840
>Somebody at the con asked me why isn't the more LBGTQ representation before S9 aired?
That sounds like absolute bullshit that somebody would ever ask her that and now she's just making up shit to carry the conversation which if true it shows what they are; jews, jews are good at making up fantasies about themselves and lying like it's second nature.

>https://youtu.be/PRliouRL2Mk?t=2918
>Run-on sentence that's barely tangible about what the fuck he's asking them
>Everyone is clearly saying yes
>So right now the answer is no but you'd be totally into it
This fat bastard is an idiot.

https://youtu.be/PRliouRL2Mk?t=2979
>Vogel: I could go into the pros and cons of the mane6
Should have let him do that interview to see how retarded he is, but just the fact he answers Discord & Glimmer is extremely telling.
>Flim & Flam are fun to write for
>Nicole: Yeah
Disgusting.

>You like big bombastic Disney villains
Oh god this fat bastard and his retarded comments ...
>Chrysalis
>jealous
>vindictive
It's a fucking bug, it needs love to feed on.

Only advantage with this interview was that the voices were much clearer ... even thought Dubuc kept fucking refusing to bring the mic up to her mouth.
Anonymous No.42426330 [Report]
>>42426202
I almost mentioned that second part (Is the first part actually true?), but yeah, when they’re doing their job well, some of those note givers can actually improve the show. Their suggestions just need to be taken with a grain of salt and if they recommend something horrible, it needs to be politely ignored.

>>42426318
>Nicole Dubuc seems like a bitch that's faking being a nice girl when she's a big-ass executive.
I don’t support all of this comment, but I have a theory about Cozy Glow being a self-insert for Dubuc that was unrelated to this characterization that you interpret from her, so now I’m wondering if there might be even more potential validity to it.

I feel bad if that’s the case. I mean, what happened to Cozy Glow was bad enough on its own, but do you think Haber was lashing out and decided to tell her “You don’t deserve to live” through his treatment of her beloved character?
Anonymous No.42426340 [Report] >>42426393
>>42426319
I don’t know why you’re giving so much of a defense to Haber. He was the showrunner and was solely responsible for fucking ruining everything. The other two are flawed, but he’s the one who ruined everything!!! It seems pretty clear to me that all the most shit ideas where his.
Anonymous No.42426351 [Report] >>42426364
Anyone here used to do job interviews for employees, any experience?

Because even if I hadn't seen their previous work ethic and what they wrote beforehand ... I would not hire these 3 ... I wouldn't hire 95% of the team that worked on MLP.

These 3 came off as extremely immature ... you'd think they're artists and most artists are usually immature but no ... these 3 people did not exude any sensitivity in them.

Even without being petty and noticing these retards enjoy writing villains... and the way they replied with a big shrug and "we dunno" when the Q&A about petrifying a child and Discord not getting any punishment for what he did, even with them interrupting one another ...

It felt like 3 very uneducated 12 year olds were talking. Ironically Haber was the most honest, he didn't pretend, he outright said he has no experience. That immediately means I do not hire him.
Whenever that dumb bitch opened her mouth I could immediately tell she was faking it and I immediately caught her bad demanour and way she kept saying Vogel.
And Vogel's demeanour? jesus fucking sociopathic christ I haven't seen that behaviour since a screeching 12 year old who got ... not even kissed in the ass, but everything handed to him. That's 100% the most generic "My parents paid for everything, I don't know how to cook for myself, but I'm a big deal, I'm the favored child. My parents love me through money."

Anything deeper than that I'd need to actually see their actions in real life to see how hypocritical they are, but the way they just shrugged and came up with no answers about Cozy & Discord was enough.

They're grown ass adults in their 40s gesticulating like 12 year olds ... if this was a job interview I'd drop all of them because of their garbage answers and the 12 year old behaviour.
But also because of their careless demeanour, they do not behave in an educated caring way. They're positive & optimistic about their own ego and selfishness with 0 care about others. I did not feel a single sensitive bone in that whole interview.
There are children who actually feel & care, these manchildren do not care... and again if you put this through a visual AI I could mistake them for 12 year olds because that's how they behave. "like, like, like, I mean" and all that hand waving, 0 respect, 0 care.

If this was a school the teacher would have yelled at you to quit that crap instantly. I'm not sure what kind of school they went to, probably SpED school but in a normal school the teacher tell you to cut the fucking gesticulating and will ask you if you're feeling fine, are you hiding something, do you need a glass of water? It's not normal to gesticulate unless you're insecure, hiding something or trying to come off as a pseudo intellectual.

From their behaviour alone I would not hire them, let alone the retardation they answered when the actual non-retard questions came through which accidentally checks for emotion and logic. They're not artists nor mature.
Anonymous No.42426353 [Report] >>42426378
>>42426319
>>You got the finale, Josh
>>Vogel starts smiling under his nose
>ADHD freak can't keep a poker face to save his life. Vogel was in charge of the finale, as usual.
LMAO!! That's so hilarious
Anonymous No.42426364 [Report] >>42426393
>>42426351
>but the way they just shrugged and came up with no answers about Cozy & Discord was enough.
I agree their answers were shit, but my interpretation of their interpersonal relationships was different than you. To me, it read like Haber was the one in charge (which I think behind-the-scenes evidence seems to show), and the other two idiots were just his ball-washers. They can’t defend it because they were probably against it themselves but couldn’t say anything.

At least that’s what I think about Dubuc. Vogel I’m less sympathetic towards and I think there’s a pretty decent chance that the horrendousness of that ending was pretty strongly on him. Dubuc seemed against it, though. She looked pained when they were talking about Cozy’s stoning to me. Her facial expression is like “Oh my god, how the fuck is this the ending we did? What the fuck is wrong with these two retards?!” At least that’s my reading.

And then as for Vogel, my reading was that he really doesn’t seem to think about things. I saw tweets from him where he was calling Sombra a “gay icon” even though the character is basically Hitler and got his face blown the fuck off. What the hell kind of “icon” is that? But the dude himself is gay, so he somehow meant it positively. So I feel like there’s no thought put into what he writes at all.

I think it was Haber’s idea and Vogel felt the need to justify it since he was the one who actually wrote the script. I might be wrong and it’s too bad these assholes will never be fucking honest with us. It’s such an abhorrently evil scene that we really deserve to know how it came to be. If they apologized for it, that’d be one thing, but they still refuse to admit the obvious reality that it was bad.

Anyway, I’m going off several-months-old memory, but didn’t Haber chime in about the stoning feeling more “definitive” and try to justify it as an “old thing fans want to see return”? To me, that pretty strongly hints at how the scene actually came to be, and there’s as little thought put into it as you’d expect. Vogel on the other hand just lied.

He said it wasn’t meant to be shitting on the characters or saying that they’re beyond redemption, even though Discord literally announced the intention to keep them like that forever, prompting all the other ponies to cheer. Like, he’s the one that wrote that, what the fuck?! So I detect shame on his part that likely came from not questioning the awful, awful, EVIL scene that Haber told him to write.

I’m asking what you think because I’m serious about doing a “What Went Wrong?” video on this season someday, so I’d like to get a read on how other people interpreted this.
Anonymous No.42426370 [Report]
Rangeban Romania
Anonymous No.42426378 [Report] >>42426398 >>42426472
>>42426353
Is that really what you guys think? Should I have been directing my ire at Vogel this whole time?

That would make sense. I saw a different Q&A with them, I think from just before the Season 9 premiere, and someone asked if the adult fandom had affected how the show was written, and he indignantly rejected the premise of the question. He was like, “Um, I don’t see a difference between writing for kids and writing for adults, okay?” Like, what a fucking idiot. No wonder the show went to such shit with these morons in charge.

It’s goddamn kids’ show! Adults can like kids’ shows, but trying to deny that kids’ shows are even a thing is what leads to TRAVESTIES like the DBZ-style Tirek fight and the child murder scene. Stop trying to prove how “edgy” and “adult” you are, remember what a child is, and then actually write something they’d like, you fucking hack!!!

So anyway, I’m asking all this because that ending was so bad that I’ve been trying to wrap my mind around how something like it could even be made. Your interpretations that Vogel is at fault may be more correct than I’d assumed. Just trying to figure it out.
Anonymous No.42426386 [Report] >>42426405
>>42424593
>What's this bitch doing giving suggestions?
The one who writes the checks gets to say what goes in the product. That's universally true in all forms of media (TV, movies, books, etc.). and most of their meddling (apple bucking, the train, telling Haber to go fuck himself when he wanted to replace the M6 with the student characters) ended up being good for the show. Even that email has entirely valid criticisms in it.

>who are
All of them were DHX employees. Devon's credited as a producer on the show. Jada's a "production assistant", Zoe's a "production manager", and Mike was a director.

>>42426318
>YOU ARE HASBRO
If you're referring to Vogal, he resigned from Hasbro Studios in December of 2014 to join the movie's production team. Then he became a show writer after the movie. He might have had some idea of what Hasbro would allow given his history, but as he was a VP, he probably wasn't doing the kind of story meetings and checks that people like Eliza were with MLP.
Anonymous No.42426390 [Report]
I really wish these fucking assholes would sit down for an HONEST interview. Remember how annoyingly obnoxious the honesty thing became as Applejack’s only notable character trait? Well, these fucktards should try practicing what they preached through her for once! We want to know the truth of how something the terrible could even exist!
Anonymous No.42426393 [Report] >>42426412 >>42433813
>>42426364
>>42426340
>He was the showrunner and was solely responsible for fucking ruining everything.
Haber has no previous writing experience.
Nicole Dubuc is an executive at Nickeledeon that got recommended by Vogel to join in season 7 and... Michael Vogel "Vice President at Hasbro Studios" with a title like that who do you think I'm going to blame first?

Not so much as defending Haber as he seems like an absolute nepotistic hire who is fully aware he is a nepotistic hire with no writing experience meanwhile Vogel & Dubuc seem like THEY THINK they know how to write. And Vogel was ignorant enough to not comment on what he thinks about that.
No, I wouldn't hire any of them, but I think ... maybe Haber would be willing to objectively tell the truth more? or rather if you kick him in the nuts he's more capable than Vogel & Dubuc who seem completely delusional, especially Vogel seems like he's living in his own world and Dubuc pretends she's smarter than she is.

Ironically I'm starting to believe that team effort to shit on the show shtick rather than 1 guy despite me having a hateboner for the vice president of Hasbro Studios ... because ... if these retards keep hiring the same retards as them with the same disgusting mentality then it's indeed a snowball effect. If the retards keep rewatching S2-S9 instead of exclusively S1 then indeed what can they learn other than Twilight has to behave like Lesson Zero Twilight and not like Bridle Gossip Twilight and Feeling Pinkie Keen Twilight? Especially when there's a guideline/cheatsheet pointing to the worst Ned Flanderised episodes. Even a beginner with good intentions might be corrupted into writing shit if that's all he sees and he's enough of a drone to not question it. Any writer with good intentions would not get hired, would have his script edited to hell, would have all his dialogue lines screeched by the voice director telling the voice actor to Dumbledor asked Harry CALMLY if he put his name in the goblet of fire. Basically a giant snowball crushing all your efforts as that snowball keeps piling up and hiring even more retarded people of jewish descent and more retarded Canadian drones like Thiessen, Miller and more scared wussy writers like Meghan, Larson who don't make a peep... yeah it's almost clear what's going on behind the scenes and this would have made an amazing Kitchen Nightmares & Hotel Hell series ... before you learned all the "characters" ins and outs and how shallow and repetitive it gets.
Anonymous No.42426398 [Report] >>42426415
>>42426378
Well of course Vogel is more at fault than Haber. I know, it might be hard to turn your head around this fact probably, because you already sunk too much effort into focusing your hate on Haber that if you were to admit that Vogel is more at fault, you would subconciously see your past efforts as time wasting - which is why it is harder for you to accept that fact.
Anonymous No.42426405 [Report]
>>42426386
>If you're referring to Vogal, he resigned from Hasbro Studios in December of 2014 to join the movie's production team. Then he became a show writer after the movie. He might have had some idea of what Hasbro would allow given his history, but as he was a VP, he probably wasn't doing the kind of story meetings and checks that people like Eliza were with MLP.

Read that aloud and you'll understand how weird and fucked up it sounds and how it raises more questions. They even joked about it in an interview, but once again they didn't go deep into it before they laughed so Mike doesn't get uncomfortable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r35lbl1uWRQ&ab_channel=EquestriaNow

And again they're not reliable narrators. At the start of this interview Mike Vogel says he had joined in season 3 ... when in another interview he said he had accidentally l heard At The Gala and Winter Wrap Up playing from across the hallway and that's he met Anderson & Ingram and got into it. So when they keep contradicting & lying by omission you can't get something crystal clear out of it like in some episodes of Kitchen Nightmares or Kid Nation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRliouRL2Mk&t=842s&ab_channel=BABSCon

A very revealing thing Vogel did was in this interview where he said he put Meghan to write the entire script for Glimmer's Christmas episode and then he didn't mention if he edited it afterwards and why he did that, but he inadvertedly admitted he can take credit for what others wrote and that obviously means vice versa; write something yourself and put somebody else to take the writing credit role. He also early on says he's the creative vision for the show. And yet with all that the ""moron"" still pretends there's a 2nd Hasbro entity which he conveniently separates from... despite Eliza Hart, Stephen Davis, Sarah Wall sucking his dick, again lying through omission and lack of context.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0G7rBicPB4&ab_channel=SilverNight
Anonymous No.42426412 [Report] >>42429670
>>42426393
Good points. Sorry to admit, I was actually unaware that Vogel had been the VP of Hasbro at any point.

Also, I just fucking saw this, but I forget where. But he was the one who sent a real pitch for Season 7 involving replacing all of the Mane Six with a Starlight-led group. You can even see in Season 6 and in the premiere of Season 7 that they were trying to do that but backed out of it. So yeah, Vogel did pretty clearly change the show for the worst, and seemed to be the most bitter that people didn’t like his godawful ideas, at least in that period of the show. I guess it makes sense that that would still be true in Season 9.

Anyway, on a different note, the reason I think that Cozy Glow is something of a self-insert from Dubuc is that she’s obviously modeled after Shirley Temple, who was a child star just like Dubuc herself was. And she seemed to be trying to ACTUALLY say that different forms of power exist, including power that actual children can have to manipulate others. That seemed like it was an actual thing she was saying. I know that child stars are deluded into thinking that they’re making mature decisions for themselves instead of being taken advantage of, which is the actual reality. So the way the character was incorporated into the show really seems to come from a place of self-hatred to me. Either self-hatred, or the rest of the crew hated her and decided to shit on her through Cozy. One of the two.

I’m really trying to get a read on that, because even though her design and voice and evilness make her my favorite character in the show, the conception of her for this abominable excuse for a “story” seems downright psychotic.

Dubuc, if you’re reading this, you DON’T deserve to be killed. We love you as a person. Please get help. We’re all really concerned about you.
Anonymous No.42426415 [Report] >>42426432
>>42426398
>I know, it might be hard to turn your head around this fact probably, because you already sunk too much effort into focusing your hate on Haber that if you were to admit that Vogel is more at fault, you would subconciously see your past efforts as time wasting - which is why it is harder for you to accept that fact.
No, I’m open minded. I was asking sincerely because this is going to change the focus of my video if I do end up making it, so I wanna know who to blame.
Anonymous No.42426432 [Report] >>42426434
>>42426415
Okay, that sounds exciting. I am looking forward to your video. Do you have the leak downloaded? That's the baseline you need for the video, they contain many emails and scripts of Hasbro and MLP staff.
Anonymous No.42426434 [Report] >>42426444
>>42426432
Thanks! I had a version of the leaks downloaded and I think I have it backed up somewhere, but I’m not sure if it has everything in it or not. Is there still a link to a full version to download?
Anonymous No.42426444 [Report] >>42426452
>>42426434
Yup, if I remember correctly the second part magnet should just be flash assets and something like that. So not that important for most people.

>2017 leak + 2019 leak, part 1 (434GB)
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:b32431c6680e83c34d904b45debe2e282584f350

>2019 leak, part 2 (132GB)
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:2f560506c4f6e22e682f7852d94dd9b43af54f9f
Anonymous No.42426452 [Report]
>>42426444
Awesome! Thanks!
Anonymous No.42426472 [Report] >>42427515
>>42426378
>Is that really what you guys think? Should I have been directing my ire at Vogel this whole time?
ONE MILLION HOURS LATER...

Haber's creative ideas weren't incorrect. He was RIGHT to change the dynamic by introducing Starlight because after five seasons, the Mane 6 SHOULD have mastered their Elements. One of the biggest criticisms of later MLP episodes is the Friendship Journal episode. Yet, the same people who criticize the writers for shitting on the fans are also the same people who don't recognize that their hatred of Starlight and other Haber decisions contributed to the problem of character stagnation in the first place.

The problems arise when the demand for status quo and the need for shilling toyetic merchandise enters the arena, and Haber simply didn't have the skill set needed to navigate that quagmire. Again, showing that Twilight has learned enough about friendship to take on a student is one thing; needing to make the other mares contribute to the School of Friendship despite having very clear goals and dreams that would conflict with such an obligation requires a creative finesse far beyond his (and most cartoon writers') capabilities. More importantly, creating a School of Friendship, despite Twilight being sent to Ponyville because friendship can't be taught in a school, is such a narrative paradox it reveals just how unreasonable the expectations were that had been placed on the writing team.

What Haber intended was to make changes to maintain the show's longevity. I believe he intended to do that first with Starlight and Trixie, and then expand Starlight's ensemble to show how the magic of friendship grows. What most everyone else did was make the show stand on its head to meet arbitrary business decisions, and they did so with a total disregard for Faust's intentions far beyond the damage S3-5 did.

Again, I am defending Haber only as far as his limitations allow me to. His instincts were CORRECT, but it was everything else that collided with his direction that threw his most basic outlines into the trash. Not once during /mlp/'s criticism of Haber have I ever believed he was being intentionally malicious. I lay that blame on most everyone else he was forced to collaborate with.
Anonymous No.42426867 [Report]
>>42422724
This.
Anonymous No.42427161 [Report] >>42427166 >>42427178
>>42426319
>These 2, Haber & Dubuc wanted me to write a legion of Doom episode in season 8 and I kept telling them "why would they get together NOW? that makes no sense. But so they don't whine at me "Oh executive producer" I did as they suggested this one time. Josh Haber & Nicole Dubuc are basically Vogel's "friends" , other talentless retards he hired based off ... not even nepotism.
>Vogel: I looked back at Return of Harmony when I wrote the Mean6 for Chrysalis
Hah I fucking knew it that the Mean6 were exactly the Mean6 from Return of Harmony.
It never crossed their minds to write something original or to only inspire from S1 exclusively.
They keep copying from bad sources on top of bad sources and keep creating bad source. I'd pretend I don't know who wrote season 2 but I already know. Because somebody had to START the snowball in order for everyone else to start writing badly based off of bad ideas, tone, etc. once again no one goes into details about that.


He once again ommits what does it mean to write the script when there's 10 more people giving you suggestions and they apparently whined that they removed a bunch of pages from Ending of the End despite them not listening to Dhx Media as much as they listen to "Hasbro" aka Eliza Hart, Sarah Wall, Stephen Davis and others. And again where are those goddamn extra pages from the leaks? and where are the original scripts before they go through 2-3 revisions? I remember in a few other interviews Faust & Larson like dumbasses also answer in a very by omission way effectively lying when they say "those "scripts" were finished 3 years and even 7 years before they were animated when in reality they're just drafts and in reality they go through 2 major revisions. Again similar to Miller I'm not sure why anyone would lie about that. Also Larson and the like's interviews ... they always come off as a combination of cowardly and careless, you can hear it in their voices. As opposed to Dubuc, Haber, Voger where I detected 0 cowardice, but 100% carelessness.

These people aren't here to educate, lecture, give information. Either due to stupidity(this one) or they're smart enough to not say what illegal shit happens behind the scenes(not likely since Vogel admitted to doing something very illegal when he went from employer to employee)
Anonymous No.42427166 [Report]
>>42427161
>Vogel admitted to doing something very illegal when he went from employer to employee
be gay do crimes
Anonymous No.42427178 [Report] >>42427515
>>42427161
>Also Larson and the like's interviews ... they always come off as a combination of cowardly and careless, you can hear it in their voices.
Larson was super honest in this Q&A, in my opinion. The only thing he didn’t do was call out names, but he gave us enough to put it together. https://youtube.com/watch?v=1qKgav9k_u0
Anonymous No.42427198 [Report]
Also, somewhere in this interview, Jim Miller made the claim that the shipping bullshit in the finale was mandated by “people at Hasbro,” which I took to mean that he was lying and really just meant the head writers. But now this is all making more sense to me with the info about Vogel. I bet you he still threw his weight around as the “Hasbro guy” even if he didn’t literally have that job anymore. https://youtube.com/watch?v=kBggP5djimA

Josh Haber is the one who tried to claim that Luster Dawn is the daughter of Starlight and Sunburst, which is an abominable ship that goes against their own fucking seasons. We literally got an entire episode about how the two of them have nothing in common, like, what the fuck?

But anyway, as I was looking for that tweet, I found pic related, so I definitely say fuck them both! But I never actually have said it this way yet, so now I will: FUCK YOU, MICHAEL VOGEL!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous No.42427515 [Report] >>42427524
>>42426472
>Again, I am defending Haber only as far as his limitations allow me to. His instincts were CORRECT, but it was everything else that collided with his direction that threw his most basic outlines into the trash. Not once during /mlp/'s criticism of Haber have I ever believed he was being intentionally malicious. I lay that blame on most everyone else he was forced to collaborate with.
Oh no he's malicious, he's got those jewish genes in him. The only difference is he's more aware of it than others who didn't swallow the "I'm one of the good ones pill"
It's "interesting" how Vogel and similar have impostor syndrome and constantly tell themselves "I suck at writing" in a jokey manner yet they pat themselves on the back whenever they get positive credit and they think they don't represent Hasbro or what's wrong with the show ... and if you tell them to stop the fuck down and use their executive position to stop getting the scripts edited they'll refuse to budge.

>>42427178
>Larson was super honest in this Q&A, in my opinion.
Compared to other interviews yes. He hinted a lot and was very telling when he said "Why did you guys write them like assholes? Here I wrote a complete new Pinkie Pie script much better than what you have, take this instead." "Them: No, we're taking the script where we wrote them like assholes."

My problem with these kinds of interviews is that I come from a school background where you have to be as objective and clear as possible otherwise you don't get the full grade or the teacher IF SHE'S BEING NICE badgers you for questions because you're being unclear as fuck.
If you put me in charge of an interview I'd come with my own papers, tell everybody to be quiet as possible and probably 100% break numerous NDAs, which Vogel also 50% did without realizing. Vogel seemed less scared of "them" while at the same time ironically pretending he's not part of Hasbro and attributing it to a higher chain of command as if he isn't in control of it by being buddies with them.
It's sad how every show has a behind the scenes except this one.
Anonymous No.42427524 [Report] >>42427535 >>42427553
>>42427515
Larson comes off as a 17 year old, not a 12 year old. His vocabulary and way he expresses himself isn't 100% clear when he doesn't start off with the idea that nobody knows what the hell he's talking about and nobody understands what he saw, how Hasbro operates, etc. He doesn't say WHY "them" didn't approve of his script, he also didn't release his script. He goes on emotional ego concepts such as "It's sad how everyone thinks I wrote these episodes because I put my name on them" and there isn't a single "why did you put your name on them?" from the interviewer. It has the level of professionalism as beer drinking but without the information when you get somebody drunk and they say stuff they shouldn't.
What I don't like about Larson, Faust, etc. is how they just like Miller swallowed the pill that they worked on the show by being typemonkeys and trying to steal credit whenever there are positive remarks to be had, but the moment there's something negative they go "accthually I wasn't as 100% in charge as I wanted to be". I remember long time ago on Lauren Faust's DeviantArt when Return of Harmony aired that that's exactly what happened. Wish I still had the deviantart comment. A fan goes "Hey this was good" she goes "Thanks" but then the same fan goes "Albeit the ending was kinda rushed and it felt like something was off" then Faust replies "Well accctualllyyyy I wasn't as in control as the other episodes" and then the fan calls her out "Haha now that's just shifting the blame" and the conversation ends there. So again these people are not sane in the head, do not have real integrity, are not 100% honest because they're incapable of being openly honest even behind closed doors. Somebody who's 100% brutally honest and informative would destroy their worldview and their usual defensive mechanism would activate "I don't understand I'll ignore it" and "I'm not capable of doing that, I don't want to be the honest guy because I'm not".

Larson says some generalistic and important stuff everyone already knew and then contradicts himself like a moron by saying S1 & S2 instead of just S1 and saying "I loved Slice of Life" when that episode is equally garbage and "the people working on the show are phenomenal and love the show" once again contradicting what he just said that about everyone telling him "No, we're going with the assholes script" which he doesn't go into detail about because he refuses to separate the 2 groups and give any names or even placeholder names.
He also contradicts himself about Luna Eclipsed cause in another interview he said "Hasbro" were wondering "Huh, why does she suddenly speak in an old language, why are you guys suddenly trying to make her yell in a comedic way?" and in this newer interview he says "Hasbro" gave notes about changing her voice.
Anonymous No.42427535 [Report] >>42427544
>>42427524
So yeah again, just like Miller, they're so corrupted to the bone marrow that they don't even know what's normal anymore. You need a psychiatrist to get any information out of these people, this is why a psychiatrist constantly makes fun of people by saying "Your perspective isn't objective" I punched a psychiatrist right in the face when she told that to me and another shook my hand when he realized I'm not a sheeple.

If I was part of Hasbro I would be able to answer much more aptly, in my educated opinion. I'd be like a mixture of Vogel & Larson with what I'm saying but much more differently.
So I actually am part of an almost political party where I blame myself for not doing anything and ... you can openly ask me questions and I will 100% be capable of giving legit information without even leaking their names and exact posts and the exact project because unlike Larson, Faust, etc. I'm intelligent enough to do so. You can shittest me, I can give a better interview than any of them while ironically not breaking NDA (which again was never a problem) the problem was always ... making yourself look bad by participating in said bad group.
Of course I have an advantage that I'm anonymous and MLP's staff are not, but why didn't they anonimously write these things? Why did they even bother stating anything at all if they're not going 100% like other shows, other films, other media?
Anonymous No.42427544 [Report] >>42427821 >>42433882
>>42427535
How can you break NDAs when you never signed one?
Anonymous No.42427553 [Report]
>>42427524
>he also didn't release his script.
It’s been leaked. Everything he said was confirmed accurate. We have his version of the ending out there somewhere.
Anonymous No.42427821 [Report] >>42427831
>>42427544
Well you can't, but let's pretend I did because anyone reading this and knows precisely to which group I'm referring to can snoop me out especially when the group is so small, hiveminded and my opinions were quite unique.

-I was part of a group that kept paying itself simply because they invested in the company at 1 point in time and the other 90% of investors left out of apathy, we had 500 members and we were down to 50. Imagine like a coffer of money from which we get a % based off how much we invested.
-Instead of using that money to market their current product they kept doing nothing about it. They did not stop paying themselves, saying bullshit like "We invested, now pay up"
-The lie devolved into even dumber shit by pretending they can make video games and paying themselves money with the director being paid more than the actual third-party programmers. And those projects were still cheap compared to the dividends we paid each other while not having marketing for our product to sell which many kept saying we have an unfinished product.
-Imagine if you had 5 whole seasons of MLP but you refused to release them because you didn't reach 10 whole seasons and imagine your idea of marketing was putting your own investors and executives to do tweets on Twitter and you called that "marketing". Kinda like what happened to Micronauts and Hanazuki. Especially Micronauts.
Anonymous No.42427831 [Report] >>42427834
>>42427821

The group was separated into 2 groups, with 1 being above the other, but the 2nd group learning bad things from the 1st group. I was part of the 2nd group and almost got into the 1st group but did not sign it when I saw "The work product must be given no matter the cost so you agree that we speak for you and ACT AS YOUR LAWYER indefinitely so we can assure the work product" in this case the "work product" was me supervising the quality control, a tester. So there was no product to give, but that "indefinitely" rubbed me completely off. I'll go more into details in a bit.

Very similar to Hasbro & Hasbro Studios but even worse if you can imagine.

There were 2 original people at the helm and they still are there, let's call them Cody & John. Cody knew some programming but had 0 publishing skills and 0 game design skills. John didn't even have programming skills.

So they started with the promise that if we invest then we earn returns and their mentality was "Well if the 2nd group wants to ... I mean we don't want to lord over you" when they obviously were lording over us and IRONICALLY we would have wanted them to lord over us in a good way because we had no leadership.
So the 2nd group learns a bunch of bad things from the 1st group and the 1st group allows us to do dumb shit such as paying ourselves without any limits simply because we "invested" and we as investors wanted to see our returns.
I wanted to see my assets go up in price but everybody else did not because we were already getting paid based off how much we invested... I wanted to see the IP thrive, others did not.
So what did I do? made a bunch of textwalls and screeched marketing and publishing a dozen times and everyone ignored me or 1% questioned me. 99% ignored me.
What did the others do? 90% did not express themselves like I did , 10% were bothered but not as vocal as me... and the other 90%? they fell in line with these guidelines you see?
They kept pushing for offers to continue paying even more dividends till the money ran out ... the investors/2nd group kept COPYING the company/1st group to make video games they did not specialize in because that's what the crowd was willing to say yes to. It felt like a political Hollywood production where nobody invites outside people because outside opinions are shunned, it was very secret club house esque.

THE FEW times and indeed there were very few times in which we had an attempt at pushing for IP valuation through publicity ... a total of 4 or 5 times they were each shot down. Because they "indeed" weren't reliable & good enough as you can see from my talking point here I am not immune to hivemind manipulation myself.
Nobody looked outside to hire publicity firms and get a real leader in charge of it, everything was left up to herd mentality, literally.
Anonymous No.42427834 [Report] >>42427837
>>42427831

50% were talking behind the 1st group's back and 2nd group's back, understanding the situation that we have a bunch of big dick investors who only want the money without the effort to market the product... but they never looked at themselves either.. ironically what a few big dick investors were vocal about and how they were vocal about was their own ego, their investment and no paying. They were very petty like 15 year olds and even started bitching 1 time on a vocal call with the co-boss but the co-boss couldn't do shit cause he's the investor.

What is "interesting" is that everyone is aware what's going on that we're slowly abandoning the IP because we're too incompetent to take care of it but also apparently so incompetent we are unable to hire competent people?
Whenever I bring those sorts of things up everyone either shuts up around me, agrees with me but then nothing ever happens.
Nothing ever changes.
They "agree" with me in spirit and nothing else. A few times the 1st group subtly told me "why doesn't the 2nd group do it?" because they're investors without leadership, the 1st group is supposed to lead and you taught them the wrong way.
Whenever I told them to stop the damn dividends I got met with crickets and excuses such as "but we paid, but we paid"

You're basically working against a tsunami that even if they agree with you, even if they pretend to have integrity, their next action is "do nothing" and maintain course.
because the few times you do try to do something you offer gets shut down in a democractic voting way by people who only care about getting free money without putting in the effort and they refuse to back off the position because then they no longer get said money and I'm talking both groups. Both groups are incompetent at creating a functional IP. And I am part of one of said groups.

I mean what do you want me to do? Finally find that leader or become one, find a quality group and shove them inside the circlejerk of investors and convince the quality group to invest in the failing company? In an ideal scenario, sure.
I am indeed just as let's say lazy and money hungry as them, but I told them to stop the dividends, and told them numerous times to put in the effort to create a real IP and not a ploy to pay ourselves.
You are working against a giant wave of apathy, ego and talentless hacks who while ironically they are easily swayed, they are easily swayed only in bad directions and have been mindwashed to think "but I paid ... and we want to pay people within our community" exactly like a secret clubhouse. You'd think with money involved, potential for higher gains and risks of losing it they'd be more professional but nope... they're all a bunch of millennials who openly said "We have no idea what we are doing
Anonymous No.42427837 [Report]
>>42427834
... we have tried nothing yet we've exhausted all options ... "
Me: Okay let's do something...
The rest: "yeah let's do something ... you first."
Me: "Seriously? okay" "Brings in an offer to hire a publisher"
"1 or 2 retards wake up to say "we don't trust them"
Me: "Uhh fuck off and try it, just say yes"
2 retads: "No >:( "
The rest: "I agree, No. >:( "

It's literally a secret clubhouse popularity contest and it is just as disgusting and incompetent and unprofessional as it sounds even with so much money involved, you'd think people would grow the fuck up once they're put in an almost political position of power, but nope, they still behave like teenagers at a popularity contest. You literally have to grab a third party external force and win by numbers and taking control. It's as disgusting as it sounds and anyone recognizing this you know goddamn well I'm right. Find a fucking competent person and stop voting him down. Allow that competent person to get his competent group. "Buttt he'll steal our control & money" he doesn't have to be an investor, Jesus Christ.

Yeah so I've been there, I know how they think, I know how they think and it just as disgusting as it is.
You get the favored group that gets a good word from the higher in command and everyone follows 1 direction and nothing changes and even when they bitch about some changes to be made nobody ever does anything.
Swimming against a tsunami of people. You need to be a sociopath with your own group in this medium to get anything done. It's all about society and not competence.


I remember this 1 time I got info from somebody who did sign an NDA with the 1st group and they didn't even let him into the group properly, he kept writing his notes in word and sent them over email instead of a proper software or physically. I almost signed that NDA myself before we disagreed on both the money and the legalities.

Feel free to ask me specific questions such as "Remember that time" "Details" , I cannot give real names but I can tell you the events and micro events and how it works and try to separate them into fictional names.
Anonymous No.42428386 [Report] >>42428713
>>42424826
I wonder if I should check out Shortcake new 2D series or is it still 3D? to see how that team handles it.

When I watched Pony Life I noticed how the voice direction was completely different and so was the writing.
Anonymous No.42428387 [Report]
Bump.
Anonymous No.42428562 [Report]
Milky invasion underway.
Anonymous No.42428675 [Report]
>meow
Save me Niggermare.
Anonymous No.42428713 [Report]
>>42428386
Don’t check it out. I originally thought maybe it might be okay since Haber wasn’t involved, but Vogel literally created it, and now I see that that’s even worse! Even if it starts out good, it’s probably going to end in a way that promotes mass murder or some shit.

Fuck Michael Vogel!!!!
Anonymous No.42429315 [Report]
SAVE ME NIGHTMARE MOON
Anonymous No.42429355 [Report] >>42429527
I hope Vogel understood G5 as the personal “fuck you” to him that it was intended as.
Anonymous No.42429527 [Report] >>42429705
>>42429355
You're deranged everyone who worked on g% loves season 9 and considers G% to be 'carrying the torch' of the twilicorn and eqg nonsense
Anonymous No.42429670 [Report] >>42429705
>>42426412
>she’s obviously modeled after Shirley Temple
She's actually more based on Darla from Cats Can't Dance and the villain Baby Doll, from Batman: the Animated Series. That's also where the "Cozy's really an adult" headcanon comes from.

The "evil Shirley Temple" archetype was already a thing. Darla especially mirrors Cozy in that she tries to hide her true nature from the world until the protagonists reveal it during the climax of the story. Seems to me it was just them deciding to do an "evil child" plot.
Anonymous No.42429705 [Report] >>42437491
>>42429527
I disagree.

>>42429670
Dubuc said she was based on Shirley Temple.

>Seems to me it was just them deciding to do an "evil child" plot.
But why, though? That’s what we need to be asking. A cute and adorable show with good morals about love and kindness decides to do an episode about how creepy children deserve to die. What the fuck is that shit?! Dubuc talked about her inception as if she was trying to say something in the Q&A that was linked here. What was she trying to say? I don’t get it.

She made a point about how not all the villains should be evil-looking monsters, and was saying it as if there was real world truth to what they did instead. What the fuck exists in reality anything like “Kids deserve to die”? In my reality, no kid has EVER deserved to die. EVER!!!!!
Anonymous No.42429713 [Report]
>>42417064
Capitalism. It always fails in the end.
Anonymous No.42430142 [Report]
bump
Anonymous No.42430174 [Report] >>42430187 >>42430640
>huge swathes of schizo text I'm not even going to bother to read
The fuck is this thread?
Anonymous No.42430187 [Report] >>42430620 >>42430640
>>42430174
It's disgusting how many newfags are on /mlp/ nowadays. None of you retards recognize the local gypsy schizo and keep feeding him with endless attention he craves so much. Lurk moar you fucking retard, that's what desuarchive is for.
Anonymous No.42430620 [Report]
>>42430187
It's disgusting how many newfags are on /mlp/ nowadays. None of you retards recognize the local soothsayer legend and refuse to admit he was right with endless attention he is give or take about. Lurk moar and read you fucking retard, that's what the email leaks are for. Learn to understand what you're reading in the first place.
Anonymous No.42430640 [Report]
>>42430174
>>42430187
>A zoomer calling an alpha a newfag
Oh the irony. Go back to wagecucking, zoomie. Your screeching days are over. Literal teenagers and rednecks and speds calling others newfags and schizo and the redneck speds thinking they're above anyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6AzUv3LXDc&ab_channel=CAWtism2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDxcTDQ9oE0&ab_channel=TheMottyShow
Anonymous No.42431517 [Report] >>42433989
Can the emails & scripts be downloaded in neat folders separately? I don't need all 400GB.
Anonymous No.42431815 [Report] >>42437012
Bump
Anonymous No.42432306 [Report] >>42437012
Bumpit
Anonymous No.42432901 [Report] >>42437012
Bump
Anonymous No.42433655 [Report] >>42437012
Gottem
Anonymous No.42433787 [Report]
>>42419356
I read all of this in Cozy Glows voice...
Anonymous No.42433813 [Report]
>>42426393
*Nickelodeon
Anonymous No.42433882 [Report]
>>42427544
One shudders to imagine what inhuman thoughts lie behind those eyes
Anonymous No.42433989 [Report]
>>42431517
Someone?
Anonymous No.42435380 [Report]
>>42416649 (OP)
>Autumn Blaze
Why would they give her special treatment but not the main cast?
>Glimmer is my favourite pony
How could somebody ever say such a thing who isn't mentally insane and pretending to be gay?
>I'm gay
I didn't see a cock in that mouth.
>Discord is fun to write for
I understand fun to animate, but fun to write for? He's an ugly pseudo-chimera with an awful voice actor that can't change his voice worth a shit.
Anonymous No.42437012 [Report] >>42437116
>>42431815
>>42432306
>>42432901
>>42433655
Delete.
Anonymous No.42437116 [Report]
>>42437012
Eat me.
Anonymous No.42437277 [Report] >>42437448
You anons got something to say about the leaks?
Anonymous No.42437448 [Report]
>>42437277
They give me depression
Anonymous No.42437491 [Report] >>42437562
>>42429705
>But why, though?
I'd guess they wanted a villain the target audience could identify with better. A big evil dark mare, Q, a gross bug monster, etc. are pretty fantastic concepts and they perhaps wanted something more grounded. Not only that, you get to write a "twist ending" (even though it was pretty obviously telegraphed) and that's always appealing to a writer. It also provides them a pretty decent moral as well. Sometimes, someone you think is your friend really isn't and they're a huge bitch instead.

>“Kids deserve to die”
The entire S9 villain ending was a direct consequence of the reaction people had over the constant redemption stuff from the earlier seasons, particularly Discord and the changelings. Everyone hated those and ridiculed them, so the writers over-corrected in the series finale by ensuring the final villains wouldn't be redeemed.

If you want to give the writers additional, undue, credit you could also say the finale mirrors the setups from earlier villain episodes. Twilight fails to redeem them and instead the problem is sealed away for a thousand years for one of her future faithful students to have to deal with when they eventually break out. Instead of an exposition scene where she tells her student what happened, we're bearing witness to the event itself.
Anonymous No.42437562 [Report] >>42438040 >>42438060 >>42441201
>>42437491
>It also provides them a pretty decent moral as well.
What the fuck are you talking about?! Killing kids is NOT a good moral!!!!!!

God, FUCK THIS GODAWFUL PIECE OF SHIT EXCUSE FOR A SERIES!!!!!!!!!!! Taken as a whole, “My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic” is the WORST show of ALL TIME. If you only count the first two seasons, it’s one of the best, but as a full nine season abomination, IT SHOULD NOT HAVE EXISTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>The entire S9 villain ending was a direct consequence of the reaction people had over the constant redemption stuff from the earlier seasons
And the lesson was “evil people are good, good people are evil. Kill good people and let the most evil monsters of all time get away with everything.” Fuck Mike Vogel, fuck Josh Haber, FUCK EVERYONE THAT COULD’VE PREVENTED THIS SHIT AND CHOSE NOT TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I FUCKING HATE THIS SHOW AND EVERYONE WHO DEFENDS WHAT IT TURNED INTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Legitimately EVIL show. I FUCKING HATE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous No.42438040 [Report] >>42438686
>>42437562
>the first two seasons
The first season* FTFY you will learn young padawan.
https://www.deviantart.com/fyre-flye/journal/THANK-YOU-218911691
Anonymous No.42438060 [Report] >>42438686
>>42437562
For eugenic or medical purposes, killing children might sometimes be justified.
Anonymous No.42438068 [Report] >>42438350 >>42438686
people in this thread need to get a life like actually move the fuck on its a show that ended in 2019
Anonymous No.42438350 [Report]
>>42438068
>G5fag, Izzyfag AKA the TRASH PONY
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Anonymous No.42438370 [Report] >>42438686 >>42439814
>>42424613
Don't blame Haber for the school, that's all Hasbro and McCarthy.
Anonymous No.42438686 [Report] >>42439350
>>42438040
You might be right, but I can still see a lot of Faust’s original intent come through in Season 2. I just wish she hadn’t left the show so much!!!

>>42438060
Nah.

>>42438068
I can’t.

>>42438370
What the fuck?! McCarthy wasn’t even working on the show at the time. What the hell are you talking about?!
Anonymous No.42439350 [Report] >>42439814
>>42438686
McCarthy was involved in S8 and S9 as co-executive producer and she support Haber and Dubuc.
Anonymous No.42439812 [Report]
The Kirin episode emails are what makes me scratch my head badly.
Anonymous No.42439814 [Report] >>42440505
>>42438370
>>42439350
What the fuck why haven't you killed yourself yet Thomas?
Anonymous No.42440009 [Report] >>42440505
Hey Thomasfag, they added a train in Legends of Equestria. You can go inside it while it travels. It even has the sounds and steam.
Anonymous No.42440505 [Report] >>42441190 >>42445668
>>42439814
>>42440009
FOR THE LAST TIME, MY NAME IS NOT THOMAS, IT’S BLACKJACK!
Anonymous No.42441190 [Report]
>>42440505
Whatever you say, Tom the Cat.
Anonymous No.42441201 [Report] >>42441207 >>42442653
>>42437562
>If you only count the first two seasons, it’s one of the best, but as a full nine season abomination, IT SHOULD NOT HAVE EXISTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I find it hard to recall anything that has fallen as far as this show did
Anonymous No.42441207 [Report]
>>42441201
Thundercats 2011 and Samurai Jack season 5.
The first few episodes of each of them are great and then it turns to shit immediately after.
Unlike Legend of Korra & The Dragon Prince that was shit since the first episode.
Anonymous No.42441919 [Report] >>42441999
I want Larson's emails. Where are they?
Anonymous No.42441999 [Report]
>>42441919
I ate them. Was too hungry, sorry.
Anonymous No.42442653 [Report]
>>42441201
I agree.
Anonymous No.42443576 [Report]
You Cozyfren, tell me the color of your eyes.
Anonymous No.42444063 [Report]
>>42416649 (OP)
How big in size are the scripts & emails alone? I don't have 500GB to spare right now.
Anonymous No.42444573 [Report]
Have a bump. You deserve it. Not like those Sunset Shimmer threads or heaven forbid a Glimmer thread.
Anonymous No.42445668 [Report]
>>42417118
rekt
>>42440505
we know you kiddo.