Thread 127283293

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>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors
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Use Vocaroo to post WIPs.
https://vocaroo.com/

No self-promotion allowed (eg. sharing your soundcloud/youtube links).

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Previous: >>127245130

https://voca.ro/1bxsu5QuF5lt
an idea a day keeps my bad thoughts away

why tf did you use my screenshot lol

>>127279066
>>127283327

>>127283329
you're famous now :D

how do i make a sleep token song

https://vocaroo.com/1au7L1cyvHWA

:3

>>127283346
use this next time

>>127283329
we're all going to dissect it and point out your shortcomings!

>>127283293 (OP)
https://vocaroo.com/1dPJ09fk8BeD
Guys, I'm very new to this so please tell me what I should improve on.
but don't be too mean pls :(

>>127283293 (OP)
>Noiz
edgy stuff kiddo.

>>127283981
Too dissonant and incohesive, there's also random pops at some places

>>127283404
love this build up :]

>>127283981
some of the vocal chops are a bit questionable idk if its all in key but overall not bad
vocal sounds rly dry so add some reverbs, delay, etc to fatten it up

keep it up buddy :]

Instrumental https://voca.ro/18nQvrh31TSy
Vocal https://voca.ro/18lbQEnZfZWG

https://vocaroo.com/1ncQTzq8kLhg
>>127283404
I fuck with this
>>127283981
Use a limiter next time lol, it's clipping like a mf

>>127285132
>**I don't move away from the mic to breathe in

>>127285539
We get it you really like the quadruple kick

https://vocaroo.com/1w2HOjAITXHZ

>breakbeat
>electronic

https://youtu.be/MVT7SNHrdgw
C H E C A Z Z O
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>>127286866
>wops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=993nvsfwvnY

>>127283404
>https://vocaroo.com/1au7L1cyvHWA

>>127286619
sounds like energetic depression. Bipolarcore. That fucking whistle melody just screams 'i got a gun to my head right now and i'm flipping a coin on whether I pull the trigger'.

https://vocaroo.com/15TPMCd4EtB1

My first attempt at 5/4.
I need to add more stuff and rearrange it probably, but how's the main groove?

im spending dozens of hours just compiling presets from a bunch of synths
ugh.

>>127287883
Anon loves 16th notes eh? Joking aside this is cool as shit. Drop a hype vocal in there and it could be really memorable. I do feel like the sound design in the last drop could use some work though, it should be like deeper? Headier? I dunno it feels like it kinda gets lost in the mix but you could definitely have a much cooler sound on the 16th notes that really drives in that tearout sound youre going for.

i can't believe robert miles is dead

i hate your music i love my music

>>127288177
put them into a pack and then give them to me for free thanks

>>127288219
>90's trance anon wakes up from a 30 year coma

test
https://vocaroo.com/1gcSVbZ7nX3h
>>127288379
im deep into toxic biohazard, somewhat close to finishing it(still have two packs to go through)
>>127288085
ribbit, i enjoyed it, ribbit
>>127285301
solid song, but the whole vox aint it, except from the section from 3:22 to 3:34 .

>>127288744
I was listening to a mix and there was a new Children remix and it reminded me that he died...

>>127286619
>https://vocaroo.com/1w2HOjAITXHZ
I like it

https://voca.ro/1b3TAmSWHFKb

donkey kong show schranz shitpost :]

>When in a fight to the death, one wants to employ all one's weapons to the utmost. I must say that to die with one's sword still sheathed is most regrettable.
- Ryūichi Sakamoto

In other words, if you're not using AI you're dumb and you're never going to make it.

>>127290638
kys

>>127290638
dumb take, you've got limited time already, use it wisely to sharpen your skillset, not outsource it to an llm, that shit will make you dumber.
also you're not Ryuichi Sakamoto.
>>127290597
mix not quite there yet

>>127290905
>also you're not Ryuichi Sakamoto
bro never seen a quote

>>127283981
>https://vocaroo.com/1dPJ09fk8BeD

Level Volume


Take some highs out the kick.


When the vox start,
take the drums & gated strings out & put slow strings.
Read this.

[Intro]
[Verse 1]
[Pre Chorus 1]
[Chorus 1]
[Verse 2]
[Pre Chorus 2]
[Chorus 2]
[Middle 8]
[Chorus 3]
[Outro]

http://www.albertman.com/blog/tag/stock-aitken-and-waterman/


https://joebennett.net/2022/08/29/saw/#:~:text=At%20one%20point%5D%20we%20decided,to%20create%20tension%20and%20release.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAR8cq5Bl94

>>127283981
Alessis 3630 compressor was used from the late 80's to 90's etc on house music

sorry. can't help myself but post.

https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2012/07/19/nightshine-by-discodsp/#:~:text=The%20plugin%20version%20of%20Alesis,VST%20plugin%20format%20for%20Windows)

>>127288759
>https://vocaroo.com/1gcSVbZ7nX3h

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwL2S5LRzFM&t=818s

>>127290638
Dumbest shit Miyamoto Musashi was right in his Dokkodo:
> Don't collect weapons or practice with weapons beyond what's useful.
He carried two blades, that's it.

>>127285132
>https://voca.ro/18lbQEnZfZWG

https://plugins4free.com/plugin/1500/

Recommend/suggest Maag emulation - boost 8khz to 12 khz on instrumental.

how does some get vocals like Robbie Basho

>>127291034
i tried to make firestarter fx but got filtered by both me and the synth(limited to 2 lfos)
https://vocaroo.com/16y4uaBeP2qK

>>127291824
Play Bmaj7
(F#4, B4, C#5, E5, B) I think.

>>127292038
it worked(for a fraction of a second), and then it sounded horrendous lol. ill stick with my bootleg patch (at least i learned a thing or two)

that zippy pitch snappy metallic sound?
FM8 filter.

never have i ever heard it do that idfk how considering how simple this patch is and i'm never using it for obvious reasons but lol

https://vocaroo.com/1owUfg4xMiFm

>>127294005
>https://vocaroo.com/1owUfg4xMiFm
If that's fm 8 then yes sir, i have never heard it do that. It's only interesting when you say "this is an fm 8 patch" imho. It does sound like native instruments.

"Zippy pitch snappy metallic sound" I've never heard that phraseology. It does sound like native instruments.

>>127294044
don't talk to me

YouTube keeps recommending me all these "how to understand compression" videos like bitch say it to my face

https://voca.ro/1iOFLoHUrqj4
I posted 2 or 3 threads again but i was really busy. Guys i have no idea how to fucking do drums at all. I have some cool ideas but i dont know how to implement shit into it. Do i start with a sample or do i start with some random beat? So far starting with a synth and applying effects didnt work at all. I cant work drums in my brain baka. I try different stuff but i always seem to hit a wall... Help an anony out. I can't move past that vocaroo at all. Fuck

>>127294946
>So far starting with a synth and applying effects didnt work at all.
you're definitely not wrong. what teh fuck did i just listen to?

personally, i always start with the drums; i find a decent kit first and use preset patterns from that to build a skeleton project. dont start with modulating and bullshit until you've actually figured out what project you're doing. if you find a cool sound, cool, but its going to blind you from the rest of the project.

Posting one last time
https://voca.ro/1fiwpjDIBrUS

>>127294969
I put a synth through amp. But when i watch rando guys on anywhere they can start with a sample and add their synths to it and work through there.

>>127295068
>when i watch rando guys on anywhere they can start with a sample and add their synths to it and work through there.
I'd take that with a grain of salt. Unless you are watching a livestream, odds are high that they rehearsed what sounds they're going to use, and demoed a bunch of fart noises out before they got something that sounds good and cohesive. In fact, do yourself a favor and watch a professional producer livestream themselves working (I mean a real livestream, not a video live premiere), it's a lot more humbling when you see how slow the process typically is.

>>127295226
this

if somebody watches me work and make a sound from scratch and it sounds good within a minute, it’s because i’ve already done that same process literally a thousand times before and already know how it’s going to sound; if it’s something brand new to you it’s going to be slow as shit.
your ears will get better so that you can find your way faster over time, but you really shouldn’t expect to be super quick right away.

>>127295068
>But when i watch rando guys on anywhere they can start with a sample and add their synths to it and work through there.

curated. the medium is the message dude, come on.

Favorite reverbs?

3/4 time is weird
https://voca.ro/19kuT8TbBRuN

>>127296271
i wrote folias for weeks and it was really helpful i should do it again.

I CANT WRITE FUCKING LYRICS

>>127296171
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erv0YLW95C4
he's the reverb man

>>127298026
OMG zaddy

why does it feel like every dmp tutorial goes from
>heres the theory of how to create a sound
and then immediately jumps to
>ok now boot up your daw and start making music
where do you learn how to actually create a workflow environment and acquire the multitudes of various software, plugins, sample packs, doodads, thingamabobs, and etc.
am i missing something? like where do you start to bridge the gap of music theory and never having touched a single piece of dmp software before

cheapest audio interface that isn't a noise machine?

>>127298056
depending on how spoonfed you want to be, people will have tutorials about making tracks start to finish, poeple will just sell you pre-made template projects.
most people just pirate a daw they see on a tutorial and then pirate vsts they see along the way.
what sort of music do you want to make?

>>127298432
not that anon but how do i reach prodigy or pendulum level. found an amazing pendulum tutorial. but for prodigy the vids are from an ukranian dude who just recreates not trying to sound like prodigy. i guess the question can be asked like this "how do you get closer to one of your fav artist"

>>127298662
Just search for <artist> tutorial

>>127298281
Second hand PreSonus. Rappin ass niggas hate the way they be lookin so you can find a second hand Audiobox for nothing. I literally saw a podcast clip of rappin niggas talking about how you can't be caught dead showing up to the session with a PreSonus lol. It is completely perfect gear.

>>127298662
>prodigy
Moog prodigy and various other hardware synths, finely tweaked
Breakbeats

>>127298432
i like all sorts of electronic music. psybient, idm, house, dnb, techno, etc.
but opening a fresh install of ableton live to "make music" feels like deciding to build a house knowing the only tools in my shed are a hammer and shovel.
also, is this shit going to be a money pit? do people actually just buy a shitload of plugins, packs, and project files hoping its going to end up being useful?

>>127298662
i'm just going to read your question as:
>how do i get to a level where i can play one of my tracks in the same playlist as my favourite artists and not feel embarrassed

some of >>127298684 . like genre specific or artist specific knowledge is actually useful.
git gud at fundamentals. eq, compression/dynamics, mostly but also you should just be able to hear sound and go 'yeah, they probably used x or y instrument/synth type into so and so effect chain' most of the time. a lot of this is grinding.
put reference tracks in your session, bring them down to a sensible mixing level range and play them once in awhile. don't try to match them, it's just a big picture feel thing.
learn to listen. hardest thing to do, probably most important. e.g. being able to hear compression is something most people never manage imo. a lot of 'remake x or y' tutorials sound like cheap knockoffs of things they're remaking with top end jacked or over saturation.

>>127298869
yeah just get live. your choices aren't going to be as limited by your choice of daw as you're thinking. the big daws are all pretty feature-mature these days. live's just a good choice because everyone uses it so it's easy to get help when you need it + there are some design choices that make it feel very intuitive to beginners (focus on inserts vs returns). also it's very easy to learn a second daw - takes like a week after your first one and all your plugins move with you.
it can be a money sink but most people pirate most things.
the audio piracy is probably the best software piracy scene left. live suite's included effects and instruments are genuinely quite good so if you want to stick with stock it's completely viable, but if you don't know what you're doing plugs make life simpler.
if i was to have minimum viable plugs i'd pick
>subtractive - diva
>wavetable - serum
>sampler - kontakt
>compressor - trackcomp
>saturation - kelvin
>reverb - valhallaroom
maybe pro-q for the ergonomics. tb h a lot of these picks are just because of familiarity and ergonomics. a lot of plugs sound good now in all categories. everything else i could get by with live's defaults.
just don't pick pro-tools for bleep music and you'll be okay

>>127298770
Different anon, but I have a friend who's looking for a 2-input interface on the cheap right now. Timely info, thanks

>>127299089
>the audio piracy is probably the best software piracy scene left
splendid. i already have live 11, is it worth moving up to 12?
also any site reccs for sailing the seas? my first thought was checking soulseek or some shit

I bought an AT2020 to record things like classical guitar which can be incredibly quiet at points when you play at pianissimo or piano dynamics. But even though it's a condenser mic instead of dynamic like my SM57 it's still not very sensitive. When I put the gain at 50% I get around -28db peak at piano dynamics. Is this just normal? I'm not forgetting to turn on phantom power, and my interface is an SSL12 which has some of the best preamps in an interface today. If I turn gain to 100%, the noise floor sits at -24db.

>>127299187
>splendid
Man fuck you

>>127299187
yeah, 12 is worth the upgrade. i've been using live since 7 and 11 might have been the worst, especially for performance. 12 one of the best updates they've done.

audioz dot download is the primary piracy site. most of the people releasing stuff (it's all technically p2p now) have direct connections to that site. downside of audioz is links are usually on shitbox hosters like rapidgator. the best piracy group is r2r. they're japanese and have been operating for well over a decade.
rutracker is fine as well - just use audioz as a reference to find releases.
audioz do get hit by dmca's though so stuff gets delisted - audiolove is my alternative 'directory'
there's also the audionews tracker, but i can't remb when they last opened reg and t bh you really don't need it

>>127299278
buddy you got water on the brain if you think im paying 80 bucks for some fuckass plugin that i dont even know is useful yet

>>127299363
I meant fuck you for saying splendid

>>127284973
thx i had to rewrite that section like a million times lol

>>127288187
ya i’m not really satisfied with that section either.
if/when i come back to this ill tweak that more and add the intro/outro stuff lol

>>127299294
>r2r. they're japanese
Always thought they were Russian.

>>127299199
is it plugged in?

reminder to remake songs

>>127301072
i always do

>>127294946
I start with drums imo for this reason.
I hate trying to make drums fit. So I do that first.
So you don't make something totally disjointed like I made w/ your sample
>https://vocaroo.com/1bCWyN2aOTxL


When in doubt. Kick on the 1 and 3, Snare 2 and 4.

>>127299294
>just use audioz as a reference to find releases.
mint advice, fuck that rapidgator bs

>>127301425
https://voca.ro/17rSLeIZ5QlJ Didnt do any mastering just a lil bit of mixing of volumes here and there.
Yeah started with drum, snare and hihat this time and worked around that afterwards. It stays more consistent. I think from now on my problem will be to understand how to come up with melodies and find samples(?) I also dont know genre basics, this advice is actually solid on artist or genre specific knowledge. >>127299067 The only genre i half ass know is trance music which uses 303 and thats it, dont know more. I also really dont wanna do trap stuff or use 808's ngl. I fucking hate that bass sound. What would you guys suggest?

>recorded it all in mono
brb gonna kms myself

does /prod/ have consensus for the best producer of all time?

>>127302347
What genre?

>>127302347
are you dumb or do you really just want to start an argument

How does the mix on this song sound?
https://voca.ro/12nLtkaWJBOz

>>127301072
i always SAY im gonna do it but i never do. im ngmi. fuck me.

>>127303034
just.... DO IT
DO. IT

>>127303034
Same... once I retire it'll be different. I'll find some qt to teach me how to play violin and life will be good.

>>127301503
This will be obvious.

> will be to understand how to come up with melodies
Either play by ear like a mad man.
Hum over chord progressions and figure it out.

You could always learn some basic music theory(playing in key. Major/minor scales)
and learn how to play piano a bit. (or guitar but really Piano makes theory way easier to learn imo and sheet music actually way more useable)

If you care more about synth and "production" then that's another grind but I don't see how learning the most basic theory to be not useful
>Playing in key is theory, knowing how to your instrument is theory. Naming it 'music theory' has damage to musicians. It's just putting labels on things already invented so you don't reinvent the wheel.

or just use arpeggiator on a synth with reverb and pray
>>127302176
You are the Beatles now

>>127302347
rick rubin

last night i dreamed that i ditched my uncles wake to go sneak into a $B concert or something and then got accused of child abuse (not mine) but Skrillex saved me and played my song in his set and i then killed my dad (and everybody clapped)

https://vocaroo.com/1g2vPgI7E3g5

>>127291824
Learn harmor dawg. Toxic Biohazard is fucking dogshit

>>127303439
Absolutely based track.
You reminded me that I had a dream my grocery store brought back the hand baskets they used to have; I miss them :(

https://vocaroo.com/1erIySWQDnnk

Yuzo Koshiro - filmora cover

>>127303794
you just made me nostalgic for the shitty run down grocery stores i was dragged along to as a kid now i haven’t thought about those in years 8(

>>127303715
soon, but TB is quite decent mang

>>127298026
this made me download blackhole immersive to try, but in the vid he mentions it being 500 dollary doos at the time. Who the fuck would pay that? How can you even justify asking for that much for a 4mb plug in?

>>127304745
I hope this is bait

>>127304781
alright, i'll bite, what are you implying? I know size of the software shouldn't dictate price of a product, i'm just venting about music software pricing being outrageous and fucked in general. Is that something you want to argue about?

>>127304817
>>127304745
nta and didn’t watch the video but that number was likely referring to the guitar pedal it’s based on, which is still insane, obviously.

are those plugins actually worth a shit?
i’m very, very comfortable just using Valhalla VV/room and hybrid reverb but i’m curious

>>127304745
1. it's always on sale
2. bedroom producers don't need reverbs with multichannel or dolby atmos support
3. the places that do need them are mostly post-production facilities. a 500 dollar plugin is not a big deal for a facility that probably spent hundreds of thousands on their speakers.

here you go, similarly priced loudness meter aimed at those same facilities.
https://nugenaudio.com/vislm

>>127305083
>i didn't watch it but here's my incorrect assumption anyway
no, it was a video specifically about VSTs and it's still priced at $300 some places (even though it's currently on sale other places for about $50?). As for whether it's worth it, I dunno, up to you. Seems like it's for spacey/ambient stuff mostly, long reverb tails. Try watching the video if you're actually curious.
>>127305150
none of this justifies the pricing and there are plenty of other examples of VSTs being extremely (and often prohibitively) expensive that are not geared towards commercial use and are often shilled amongst the YT "influencer" circles targetting bedroom producers.

>>127305530
it is not the companies fault that grifters who make videos about music software for a living are shilling their products outside of the target audience. the cost is justified by whatever the market is willing to bear.
you want to be a faggot and listen to some other faggot talk about vsts instead of just pirating/demoing them yourself and using your ears, then continue to do so but keep your faggot thoughts to yourself.

i don’t watch vst “review” videos from charlatans who can’t actually discern what actually makes a plugin worth using or how to unlock its full potential like i can

>>127303335
I use music theory. I do voicing, pitch shifting etc. I am not sure if fl studio's note highlighting sometimes shits itself because when you close it. It puts them on dark notes too. That confuses me but i believe what fl does is visualizing not actually doing chorus placement. For example f# minor phyrgian shits itself so hard if you do use highlight.

Coming up with melodies is easy too but finding the right noise is hard i guess.

Anyway thats not important i know music theory to extent but i dont know what complements some scales. For example if i wanna start my chord, dunno maybe 6th f# minor natural i can do random from another scale that sounds good but i would never know if those notes or scales complement each other via their numbers. Like sure lets start with 6 f# minor natural and after that do i continue with f# minor natural or do i change to a major ionian. how do i even sound original at this point? Thats i guess kind of my problem. Overthinking this shit while struggling with circle of fiths etc.

inconsistent delay compensation is ruining my fucking life AGAIN jfc

>>127302531
sounds like AI sloppa

I have a guitar and a scarlet 2i2 - what's the best way to start making 'one man band' style songs for a beginner? I'm not trying to make it, this will mostly be for my personal satisfaction, so not too bothered about sounding professional, just want the drums, bass and guitar to all sound decent together. Is this possible with just a guitar and VST everything else? Is there anyone here who does this type of thing and can give me a quick rundown on their process, what the essential plug ins are etc.? So far, I understand I'll need an amp sim of some kind, drum vsts and bass vst. Any recommendations welcome. Pic most likely related to these types of questions.

>>127307750
>amp sim
amplitube and amplitube tonex are decent commercial options that'll cover most use cases
the neural dsp stuff sounds good as well
neural amp modeller if you want to get into free autism
some sort of cab IR loader if you want to get into cab IR autism

>drums
superior drummer is the best, but probably surplus to your requirements. ez drummer will work for you. bfd3 if you want more than ez but less than superior.

>bass
genuinely just buy a cheap used bass, it's not worth the headache of programming decent bass parts if you already know how to play guitar.
but if you really want to do it have a look at the ample sound stuff.

>>127307989
>genuinely just buy a cheap used bass
I was on the verge of doing this already cause the guitar amp sims and drum VST options are already annoying to research, so cutting out one extra ballache is ideal. I'll look into the other shit as well. I've seen guitar rig mentioned a lot, but I think that needs Kontakt which is extra shit that I dunno if I can be fucked with right now. I was already eyeballing ez drummer and Addictive drums 2, so I'll throw superior in the mix and see what seems best. I feel like the real hassle will come from learning mixing and recording techniques.

>>127305582
Eh, make demos worth watching, then.

>>127308130
>I've seen guitar rig mentioned a lot
don't bother with it imo. native instruments stopped doing actual dsp work a very long time ago and guitar rig 6 was a scam reskin for the most part.
NI just coast of selling kontakt libraries. it's only a matter of time before their VC owner loads them up with debt and dumps them.

What instrument is this?
https://youtu.be/0_y8AU7F1KU

>>127306570
>the weakest of baits.
I can see why this place is dead.

>>127307750
Guitar Rig 7
Ezdrummer
Ezbass
Would be the default if you are willing to spend money or torrent imo but there’s some fairly good free VSTs if you are looking to mess around.
Emissary bundle is free for guitar sims. It’s alright.
MT power drum kit is pretty good for being free imo if you don’t care about having a library of drum loops and just care about the sound.
I don’t know what you can replace the bass with.

https://vocaroo.com/1e7zeVTUlDeY

made a little beat today, idk if im gonna finish thoe

>>127309839
>>127307989
I think buying a cheap bass is actually the move

>>127283329
OMG IT"S HIM!!!!!!!! !! !

>>127283981
>https://vocaroo.com/1dPJ09fk8BeD
fun vibe
get the technical stuff straightened out

Using FL to compose some piano pieces
not good enough to play and record myself

any tips on best HQ traditional classical grand piano sounds would be very appreciated

>>127310776
>THEY MUST HAVE AMNESIA

>>127309348
>upload obvious suno slop
>act surprised when anons can tell immediately

>>127310870
layer different pianos on top of each other but eq them where they work together

>>127311327
nah, that doesn't usually sound good.
You're better off finding 1 decent sounding virtual piano, add a touch of reverb with a long decay, then compress to taste. Of course, it depends on the style of music you're going for, but rarely should you layer multiple pianos together imo.

>>127310405
I am neither of these guys but I used a cheap Squire Bronco for years and after switching to ModoBass 2 I won't go back. Bass is the easiest and best sounding thing to "fake" with software.

>>127311404
I havent found a virtual bass that sounds remotely close to as good as my pbass, and I'm not even that good of a bassist. But, I do agree that you can get away with virtual bass, at least in mixes where the bass isn't drawing as much attention (which is most songs really).
I don't think you can get away with virtual guitars tho, especially virtual acoustic guitars - they sound like ass unless you heavily process them and have a strong grasp of proper articulation/expression, and even then they sound crappy at best.

>>127307750
Pretty much agree with the other two anons, although I like addictive drums 2 instead as a middle ground between ezdrummer and superior drummer. However, AD2 is a bit shit for heavy metal if you speicifically want to make metal music, but great for rock/funk/pop/etc..
Never used amplitube but guitar rig is excellent, probably my most used plugin (and not just on guitars)
IMO a real bass is preferred, but you can get away with virtual basses like NI Scarbee rickenbacker, IK modobass, or amplesound's basses. Alternatively, you could use an octave doubler pedal effect (or plugin equivalent) on your electric guitar; or even no bass at all - worked for The White Stripes.

>>127311327
>>127311354
is there software specializing in realistic symphony instruments? (as opposed to film-scoring type)

>>127311663
Venus theory, decent sampler, get his stuff its free and stuff by spitfire symphony

>>127311354
it does sound good, you need to know which kinds of pianos to layer and what frequencies match, also some pianos have a specific job for a specific part of the sound, skill issue my god, lazy effort = bad results every single time

>>127311676
thank you

>>127311676
Show me multi-layered acoustic piano that sounds good, as I'm not convinced tbqh.
>>127311663
Spitfire is the main one. They do have a free version of BBCSO but its limitations make it pretty awful to compose with.
Berlin Free Orchestra by orchestra tools os another decent option for free.
You can also check pianobook for many free instrument libraries, there's some orchestral sounds available there too.

>>127311758
thanks

i don't mind spending money, I'm talking it fairly seriously.
in the end if it isn't 'perfect', i want that to be my fault, not the instruments' fault

>>127311663
if you want a free option there's the Virtual Playing Orchestra sample pack, which you can play through Sforzando.

>>127311758
> sounds good
i do layered pianos in songs i post here literally all the time and nobody ever picks them out as bad.
*realistic* though? nah, then i agree

>>127311907
If you're just starting out at orchestration, it's not a good idea to jump into the profressional libraries even if you have the cash to spare for it. Learn the ropes with a simpler library first (berlin free orchestra is a good beginner one), even if the sound quality is mediocre, as you will overwhelm yourself if you (for example) purchased BBCSO Professional as your first ever orchestra library. Libraries like that are for professional work for serious film/tv composers with specific requirements, with autistic amounts of sound mixing options and mic setups across just about every instrument in the library. Walk before you can run.
If you still feel like getting a paid library, consider one of the following:
>spitfire cinematic studio orchestra
>spitfire bbcso (core)
>berlin orchestra berklee
>audio imperia nucleus
>cinesamples (various)
>eastwest hollywood orchestra opus

>>127311758
I layed omnisphere, then I layer arturia, then some stock plug in, add their own sauce, some are drawn in complete reverb, others mono but with slight phaser, then I eq and spectral sidechain them all together, to make this beautiful sounding big piano that also works in mono because of psychoacoustic effect not panning of speakers

>>127312317
Post sound pls, you have my curiosity

>>127312317
just to add to this, the VST I use to sidechain all together is "FUSER", a lil cpu heavy but worth it, it changed my mixing in such ways

Musescore 4 + Vienna symphonic library
https://voca.ro/19WwfWcm4Ola

>>127312333
I was working on this track for a commercial, I just want to say that I did not do the full potential of this technique that I described
https://soundcloud.com/tmasa/insurance_track-1-limiter/s-WzEkRfvRKEv?si=e5a634d6bd854a6eafd8449bcaaea2e4&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

this artist does it extremly well
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https://soundcloud.com/lordrecollectif/else-about-you-feat-aether-1?si=3b07998d1cac4807b21beb8b6961fec7&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

>>127312352
coming from guitar pro 5, placing notes in musescore genuinely made me want to end my existence. how the fuck do you get used to that bullshit. i just want to place my fucking notes with simple clicks, but then if you have to change the note length after placing it, it fucks up the entire fucking bar. holy fuck.

>>127312467
It helps that Musescore was my introduction to notation software. Once you're used to keybinds, it's pretty intuitive in my opinion

>>127312467
are you utilizing CNTRL or SHIFT on your keyboard, I dont use that software but I know lots of softwares if not all give you much better control of it when you learn the hotkets and the extra features it does when i do something while holding either of those buttons

i designed this simple patch
https://vocaroo.com/13pFdz4YZfw1

>>127312366
>https://soundcloud.com/lordrecollectif/else-about-you-feat-aether-1?si=3b07998d1cac4807b21beb8b6961fec7&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
wow, this is super nice
almost sounds like a NewJeans track

>>127313036
mod the lfo depth and or rate

https://vocaroo.com/1b6zDfwtzSqZ
>>127313172
I got lost in the sauce
https://files.catbox.moe/dwh4h8.webm

>>127313858
yeh it sounds cool
usually i’ll just key track stuff like that and that should kind of be a standard move to make a pad feel less static across its entire range imo. (COOL synths like NI stuff always have that build in xD)
some lfos have a “rise” option as well.
lots of mlg pro preset makers will do the same thing with velocity or the mod wheel (ew) instead.
layerz.
ngl i just stack the instrument rack if im lazy but separating voices is the real shit

also vital is goated for pads iykyk resynth stereo lfo type shit

i just wish matt would uncuck the lfo it range because that shit is ridiculous.

>>127313911
subtle LFO sprinkling is dope af and adds life to the sound
>>127313959
i want to get my hands on Vital, i just haven't found the time to try it yet

>>127311302
>yawn.
I've seen this shtick may times. What will you project onto me next anon.

>>127314067
many*

when i upload my suno slop people just say it’s boring

>>127283293 (OP)
does anyone have good recommendations for a granular synthesize outside of ableton? if i was using ableton i'd just use the native one since it's really good already.

>>127314118
doesn’t everyone just use serum or phase plant or pigments for that now?
or portal

dog where is the r2r drop fuck i’m tired of granulator

>>127290638
I am sure people are already singing over tracks made by SUNO AI and claiming the production as their own

>>127314112
It probably is.
The difference between a good song and a great song is a millimeter and yet a mile.
I've messed around with Suno a good amount.
Bought a month of pro. Messed around with everything I can think of.
It's pretty powerful but it's made nothing that is close to 'playlist tier' or anything to rival music I actually listen to.
Something is missing. Never quite right.
>>127314419
Good singers are what makes most music listenable
It makes ""good"" music and yet

>>127314490
I doubt most casual listeners will even notice or care. They've been consuming quantized auto-tuned sloppa for the last 20 years.

>>127314528
>quantized
nothing wrong with this
>auto-tuned
nothing wrong with this

>>127314067
>>127314077
You deleted the voc the moment you gpt called out, you don't have a leg to stand on bro

>>127298281
Get used Apollo twin

>>127315078
>>127314322

i gotta start using more reference tracks. also probably need to invest in a decent bass guitar. my cheap ones don't seem to cut it, or the amp sims im using aren't responding well

>>127315063
>nothing wrong with this

>>127315565
>anime picture
all opinions from hereon completely disregarded

>>127315571
Stay mad pussy

>>127315585
>anime picture

>>127314322
pretty good - guitar solo need more work though

>>127314322
sounds hella dry. add some reverb

Is there a way to clear out the unused audio files in a GarageBand .band file? After just a short recording session ending with only 1 track with one recording, saving and quitting, there are still loads of WAV inside .band > Media > Audio Files.

Even after quitting GB and saving and re-opening, none of those tracks can even be accessed by any means I can see (undo, etc) so what's the point of them? Some of my bigger projects are retardedly huge because of this. It's not feasible to do manually. This is gay and dumb and I hate it.

Do you need a headphone amp to run 250 ohm headphones with an arranger keyboard? I'm trying to find a gift for someone who recently got one, but I have no idea about these things. On google I only found conflicting information.

anyone been running the VR/TCD/X serum 2s without timebombs?
feels like there have been over a 100 releases so far.

stubborn l8r h8r

https://vocaroo.com/1omStd9K35O1

do you guys think korg would come after me if i use triton without buying it. also what are some absolutely crazy programs like triton. i love it

how do i make my vocals sound more like miku so i can be a kawaii anime grill ? uwu
[serious]

auto tune formant + guitar rig is helping a lot

>>127314419
Genius.
Pop stars are already doing this

>>127314419
Pretending AI music is your human-made work is human brain tier.
The real galaxy brain move is to make a real song and tell everyone it's AI slop
https://youtu.be/hWorTcXSCRE

Posted this one in last thread as well, just finished recording some demo vocals throughout all of it. How does the mix sound?
>melodic death/gothenburg metal
https://vocaroo.com/1k0vm96EfJzp

>>127319096
>https://youtu.be/hWorTcXSCRE
Thanks a lot! I don't want to hear this or see these two men's faces ever again.

This is the greatest and best song in the world.

https://vocaroo.com/1mxYGZR8rNwQ

>>127320460
the hihat sounds out of place

>Song title "plugged anus"
What genre fits the vibe?

>>127322369
whatever the fuck sewerslut makes

>>127322485
>>127322369
bro that’s shitpost core internet trap for sure where tf you been

>>127322485
>>127322632
My apologies as i dont have shit taste, so I was completely unaware ;^)

don't mind me, just posting peakcore
https://archive.org/details/starving-slvts-always-get-their-fix/Sewerslvt+-+Starving+Slvts+Always+Get+Their+Fix+-+09+Dopamine+Rush.flac

>>127320352
vocals could be louder but sounds great. i wish i knew how to get the drums to sound this clear in my mixes.

are there any universal plugin managers/installers that can compile all the different file types and brands together? sometimes it feels a bit chaotic. also should i move my plugins away from from c drive? it takes a lot of space

is it possible to make a song with the jump up beat and not feel like a huge fucking shit taste dork

>>127324277
>the jump up beat

>>127324299
yeah exactly that's what i'm saying man that two steppppper is always done by the biggest fucking cornballs i swearr

wtf is the jump up beat?
is that the same as a drop?

>>127324586
wtf is a drop just google it

helloooo, I am top new Moombahtoon producer Omar Aldarvish!
- boom. ka-boom ka. -
^moombathon worldwide yo!
number one in the world B-)

>>127324858
me too

>>127324299
it's why we are all here: to learn.

>>127324978
no i'm just hear to mog people and be a dick desu

>>127324987
Then just download a bunch of bandcamp albums and reupload them to wayback machine. Not lying, it's just that stupid.

>>127325002
what

everything i've written in the past three days is dogshit what do

how much confetti should my stereo field have?

>>127325042
scam plugin. ridiculous.

>>127324978
I'm nice to the girls why do I never get pussy

>>127325093
wtf? its a stock cubase plugin

>>127325023
Save it and learn. Go back to it later. Much later.

Probably too much bass and high signal. Just a guess.

>>127325097
Get on state and watch how fast that changes. humble opinion.

>>127325125
this might actually be the worst advice anybody has ever >(You)'d me with

>>127325102
Then write them an email if you have a suggestion or improvement. Go by the numbers.

>>127325144
Yeah it is the worst. But so is your track.

>>127325151
i dont have any, the anon, presumably you, called it a scam. i implicity refuted this claim by stating its merely a stock analyser plugin.

>>127325213
>>127325042
yeah i have ozone imager hot keyed for that xd

I just turned level 58; can I start the Crossroads of Fate event now? I haven't touched it yet because I assumed that I'm too low of a level.

>>127325413
the level “requirements” through this game are actually recommendations bro.
just start the event if you want. it’s fun :D

>>127325470
Is it fun when you get smoked? :(

>>127325511
there are soft cheats that you can toggle if you really want, and low level enemies that you can grind on. the loot is kinda shitty but some people really are just in it for a chill time.

personally i think you get way more out of it just enjoying the journey as you play without focusing on finishing or comparing your progress to anybody else.

>>127315728
>Take a song about wild fires and traveling through the desert and make it sound more wet
Next you'll tell me to sidechain everything.

>>127325555
My god, blessed digits. I will transfer my experience to my Roland SH4D once I hit level 60. Then I'll be making bangers like Carl Craig.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDTeRFOTNRg

how many growls until freedom...?

>>127326375
just 2 more skreeks

>>127326440
i'm trying to do the fm8 but simple thing like *they* say you're supposed to do and i legitimately think they just set up a literal psyop to sabotage other people by telling them to use sine>sine>cabinet and the rest is post processing........

like it's NOT that hard to make a good growl and just do more and i'm seeing zero proof that that's how he made them this is driving me fucking insane but i feel like questioning the powers that b would get me banned.....

>>127326503
sonny went full skrillexophrenic and used lots of different FX and bounced down the sound lots of times until he liked it. but yh learn what formants are, EQ is important. modern sound design is a lot of layering — but you can overdo it, then start overanalyzing. me personally, I doubt there will ever be another skrillex style revolution in sound.

>>127326545
>sonny
who?? idk what you're talking about man

>>127326573
The Jordan Peterson of Dubstep

>>127326613
yeah i can't lie seeing that pic was disappointing, though i can't deny that if you ignore like 99% of what that guy says he's obviously been helpful to... some people. so not all bad i guess.

>>127323585
Thanks man. Drums are just Krimh Drums Free with a bit of multiband comp on the low-end and some extra reverb, didn't do anything more with them.

>>127326631
what pic?

truly a mystery https://vocaroo.com/19kZXKFe0xp0

>>127326631
He's had a pretty fucked up life before getting famous, and at the time of those pictures he was known to have fallen into some pretty serious depression (I bet it was Diplo's fault somehow).
From what we publicly know about him I think it's pretty safe to assume that he was into JP's self help stuff, and not the political stuff.

>>127327666
>self help stuff
yeah i would assume it was just that as well based on public knowledge. who knows.
> (I bet it was Diplo's fault somehow).
valid. that dude ruins everything and everybody

bangerang

Just wanna say that SynthV is fucking awesome

https://voca.ro/1hUGJXpgAYgV
https://voca.ro/19XqygtoSnTK
https://voca.ro/18GFjZv3v9GN

I don't know shit about producing I just play guitar.

>>127325042
That's down to taste really.
You'll want to keep an eye on a correlation meter though, to ensure there's no phase issues for mono compatibility

https://voca.ro/11q9xoblfsV8 is this good for a dnb drum? seriously i am doing guess work at this point any suggestions?

i ordered blank cassettes for some of my albums, which board or general should i be talking about that kinda stuff

Havent prodded in a couple of weeks

How do i get back into it?
How do i get my mojo back lads

Plastic Pigs
https://vocaroo.com/1oemU5Ga9J5K

BMP

https://vocaroo.com/1aBW43RyYyc6

zillenial tim hecker coming through
i understand audience for this kind of thing is rare, but I enjoy it
am i onto something here? this is the 2nd version with improved listenability

>>127332044
its fine but nothing noteworthy is my first impression.
you could tell me tim hecker made this in the early 2000s and i would say "ok"
but, do you want to be temu tim hecker or (you)
a 45~ minute cohesive album with unique sounds and atmosphere, is what makes an ambient album stand out to me. its not often a single track stands out on its own. I M O

>>127332645
>you could tell me tim hecker made this in the early 2000s and i would say "ok"
and you would believe he made it? just asking
i wanna be me and i am me, i never compromise on expressing my true voice. it's just that hecker's music inspires me tremendeously so i wanted to try out making something in a similar vein
but yeah when people say they like ambient or listen to ambient they probably listen to those albums that are just one lush chord for 45 minutes and i hate that. there's nothing original about that and all the artists sound the same. that's why i like tim hecker so much. he always makes something unique, and has melodies and all the intense raw soundscapes that are always changing unlike most of ambient artists. that's why i dont even like the term ambient music cause all the ambient labels have 100 identical cookie cutter guys on there making identical music

>>127333031
>and you would believe he made it? just asking
lol i would probably double check, i havent listened to every release hes ever made.
>one lush chord for 45 minutes
yeah this kinda shit really shows that the bar for entry is pretty low. reminds me of GAS, never got the hype for them at all. my personal goat is (early) biosphere

>>127333014
groovy and cool
>>127328735
not sure of what im doing but i compressed the first track by -26db then applied +16db makeup gain, boosted the low and high ends in the EQ(with a gentle notch at 990hz), and added some air/brilliance.
https://vocaroo.com/160dJhldTXvJ
>>127332044
saved i vibe with it

woops

>>127333014
groovy and cool
>>127328735
not sure of what im doing but i compressed the first track by -26db then applied +16db makeup gain, boosted the low and high ends in the EQ(with a gentle notch at 990hz), and added some air/brilliance.
https://vocaroo.com/1d6MbJ8XGfLm
>>127332044
saved i vibe with it

Hy nigas

https://voca.ro/16sxrNzNYPnz

>>127328735
SOUL

I had a thought today. Why is it called "Sound Design" when the result is always something that sounds like fart noises? Shouldn't it be called "Fart Design"? In fact, shouldn't Electronic Dance Music be called Electronic Fart Music?

>>127333624
glad you like it mate, heres another one
https://vocaroo.com/1278iG0oYLSJ
also general feedback welcome
also i absolutely love your guitar tone, you should flesh it out into a finished track

>>127332044
Too ambient for me. Could fit in well with a video game BGM, although I prefer video game OSTs with strong themes that I can hum too.

>>127333014
Sounds like fart music.

>>127333624
The guitar riff is kinda boring, add some variation and surprises in there. Get yourself a better mic for recording acoustic.

>>127328979
>phase issues for mono compatibility
when shit like this is mentioned in music production, my brain turns off and i have no idea whats going on anymore. its an endlessly confusing topic

>>127334381
ok, think of it this way:
>song sound good with 2 speakers, but bad when played out of 1 speaker, what do?
well, with 2 speakers (stereo sound) it'll sound as intended as you probably mixed it in stereo. But if someone listens in mono, they are hearing the sum of both speakers (quite literally, the left channel and right channel added together). If you have some idea about how speakers work and how sound works, adding together opposite oscillations can cancel out part of the resulting sound. A correlation meter shows you whether the sum of the left and right speaker is positive (which is a good thing generally), or negative (generally a bad thing). A mix with good mono compatibility would generally lie between 0 and +1 on a correlation meter, although occasionally hitting below 0 is okay.

If you're still scratching your head, this is only a summary as it's a hard topic to explain without diving into the fundamentals. I actually think the best way to learn more about phase cancellation is if you learn about how noise-cancelling headphones typically work, where a lot of the same principles apply - they listen to your surroundings and generate an opposite soundwave of your surroundings.

>who cares? this doesn't matter
it depends on what kind of music you make and what you used to make it. If you're making stuff like electro-house & club music then you absolutely need to know if that sounds right in mono as no club will use a stereo system anyway. In fact, most large public speaker systems are mono playback.

>>127334563
that makes sense. cheers anon

my ambient album is only 22 minutes rip

day 2 of prod from scratch. made first ever drum loop with some synth. this is... kinda fun? need to lock in on a genre to dive into

>>127334999
sounds like shit

>>127334255
>https://vocaroo.com/1278iG0oYLSJ
simple and soulful, i kept it looping while playing vidya
>also i absolutely love your guitar tone, you should flesh it out into a finished track
i DIDN'T make that track , only "enhanced" it.
here's the original post: >>127328735

>>127335006
whatchu gonna do about it big guy?

how do anons organise their projects? what categories do you use? im thinking of doing something like "[project name](genre specific project)]>[Year]>[Month]". i think this would help me keep up to date with my progress and also compile relevant projects together.

>>127335020
im not gonna listen to it again

>>127335033
1.flp straight on the desktop until I start to hate it then it goes in the recycle bin

>>127335067
sociopathic behaviour

>>127335095
Actually, deleting everything and preventing others from hearing it is very much empathetic behavior.

haven't been sleeping much
https://voca.ro/1kLvZh8Nd083

i broke my speakers chat 8(

https://vocaroo.com/11aDujmH68i4

>>127336360
Sounds fucking sick desu. I don't remember what it was but I definitely heard shit like this on Vision Radio.

>>127336360
sounds like my bum when i do a poo

>>127336397
>vision radio
i was not even aware that they did something like that...
should probably definitely check it out- i'm a fan of at least a few people who release on there obviouslyyyy lol

i updated massive x because of one specific browser bug, and the interface is so much fucking worse now.
and the bug is still there. fml :(

https://voca.ro/1jjMlSqzy31T

>>127336547
why

>>127330242
>back

>>127336798
using the arrows to flick between presets was busted and sent you to random places.

*now* it added(?) and opens on some xy “animator” that adds motion to all the presets instead of just opening on the edit window- you know, the actual synth…
AND clicking on the preset window doesn’t work and now you (i) have to click the specific browser button to get to the preset menu to get to the USER presets just to select my fucking custom init patch like jfc

Just made this.
https://voca.ro/11Dwb0FK5EvB

Just did some spring cleaning on my hard drives and cleared two whole partitions. One will be dedicated solely to my audio projects and the other I haven't figured out yet. Maybe when I need to clear out the current hard drive and archive shit? This is a whole new era. The organisation and compartmentalisation of projects is a priceless practice. No more maze like navigation and mental tedium. Should've happened a long time ago

my big weakness are drums and percussion. how do i git gud? can't believe Grimes made better drums as a noob on Visions than I can do...

https://vocaroo.com/17y21XZlJbcw
is this listenable or interesting

>>127334352
>Sounds like fart music
Why does prod (and /mu/ in general) constantly get filtered by electronic music?

>>127338916
no

>>127338470
remake other peoples drums. even with simple beats.
even if they *seem* obvious you’ll often discover the finer details that contribute to drums sounding good.

i am unironically unable to get a groovey tech-house bassline going, nor get a good sound.....

>>127339382
just use more samples

>>127338989
https://voca.ro/1fnSc4Stjaro
what about this one

>>127339459
bro

>>127335033
just Year and week.
>2025
>week 32

>>127335033
>year-month ableton folder that contains all sound design and first drafts of songs.
>any song that gets past first draft stage gets its own folder; contains all updates, alternate versions, and sound design sessions specific to that song
>all song bounces have [genre(s)] tagged

honestly need to include bpm/key for reasons as well but eh. maybe i'll start including those in the text documents... oh yeah

>all project files include text document with to-do list; thoughts on the song so far, what's holding it back and what could change etc

it really triggers me that anytime I use a sample inside of ableton it creates an ableton file inside the sample's folder. why can't you save that shit in the project folder instead or something.

>>127339715
collect all and save

>>127339715
It's a bit annoying to have them in the way, but they're good to have so the next time you want to use that file it's ready and doesn't need to be scanned or set up again.
You used to be able to scan folders to have it create all the files in advance for you. I'm not sure if that's still an option.

>>127339722
This
>>127339715
But I do agree it's still annyoing, because Ableton has no mode to "collect all and save" as soon as you pull in any sample. That's my biggest gripes, why the fuck is it not a feature

>>127339715
I can't believe I just something in this site that ends with igger and is actually trigger

just redownloaded my DAW and took a dump on it, check it
https://voca.ro/1kNtndJze16u

>>127337402
could work better if tracks didn't feel so isolated from each other

>>127339482
clipping a bit no?

>>127339942
idgaf about clipping what do u think of the composition

>>127340010
trolling

>>127340010
it's interesting... but it kinda sounds like playing two minecraft songs at once in some spots

>>127338916
>>127339482
bravo, anon. encore. seriously, kudos to you and your sound. this really shits on /prod/ and their so called 'music'. you have captured their chaotic, disorganised, unmelodic amatuer shit post tracks perfectly and i bet there are multiple anons here seething at how foolish you have made them feel. One small problem (if you can call it that), is your sound is too professional to truly elevate this as the sickest of burns and top tier parody territory. i'm guessing this is because you have the skills and knowledge of music production ingrained in to you from years of making music and you just can't shake off that kind of experience completely. as someone who has been making music for several decades, I can tell a fellow professional apart even when they are trying their hardest to dumb themselves down. Top tip for if you really want to piss everyone off: post something you have sincerely made. You can't get any more cruel than that, it will hurt them more to hear music made by someone who actually knows what they are doing.

>>127340466
They do it for a reaction.
It's better to not even reply

I can't be assed to start ableton lads

Bought Omnisphere.
Getting this plugin is such a weird process
First of all it's only available physically, can't just be bought online from their website, then the (admittedly premium feeling) box comes with an usb drive that as a .url file on it that opens the link to download the actual installer. And that installer is like 1.2 gigs but the maximum dl speed they give you is 3 mb/s

New thread
>>127342815
>>127342815
>>127342815

>>127342597
See >>127343568