Thread 127524934

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Use Vocaroo to post WIPs.
https://vocaroo.com/

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Previous: >>127480203

i need help understanding something:
we view the stereofield as a 3d matrix;

volume determines whether something is at at the back or front;

panning determines whether something is left or right;

frequency determines whether something is top or bottom;

is this correct?

>>127517934
For fucking around without a laptop or PC but still using Ableton.
>>127516271
Man's got dreams

>>127524954
Volume is only part of it.
A reverbed sound with a somewhat muffled high end will sound farther away than the dry signal at the same volume.

>frequency determines whether something is top or bottom
Generally speaking, kinda, but there are also other psychoacoustic timbral properties at play.
Same for panning, which is obviously the most straight-forward to use on a stereo signal, but can be implemented in different ways, based on how you achieve the separation between left and right (like purely lowering one channel vs using panning laws algorithms).

You can try spatialization plugins to see how they affect the sound when you move the source around.
Usually they're for binaural stereo, and speakers are a bit different, which is why it's always wise to A/B things like this between headphones and speakers while producing.

>>127524954
Ambisonics are more complicated than that.

>>127524954
no.

>>127524934 (OP)
Square wave best wave

https://voca.ro/1g1b3i27BysQ
https://voca.ro/1bSqL9lUeHr2

>>127524954
It's honestly just better to experiment a little with it rather than trying to memorize a whole bunch of "rules".

One way to get a knack for it is by taking a scene from a movie, preferably one without dialoge and remove all the sound from it and then try to add sound effects and foley. Nothing will teach you how to put sound in a space faster than that.

Is it important for music production? Not really unless your goal is to create a 3D'ish mix where the experience is one of sitting right in front of the stage with instruments to the left and right to you with the drums in the back like it's some meticulously recorded live album. And then you'll run into a whole bunch of issues with too much room/reverb and stereo phasing.

Having some sense of space is good in a mix, but just a little bit of short reverb/delay on elements you want further back goes a long way and you dont have to bathe everything in the mix in huge amounts of reverbs and delays to get that effect.

>>127526103
https://vocaroo.com/1g1b3i27BysQ
Ah this was sweet and moody at the same time, nice.

https://voca.ro/1bSqL9lUeHr2
This reminds me alot of Tim Follin's Solstice
Anyway, good job. Certainly catches that 8-bit style to great effect.

>>127526193
Thanks. I started writing for NES all those years ago, and though I've done it all since, 8bit will always call to me. Follin's a legend, glad that others can see his influence in what I do.

>>127526149
im struggling mainly with how to use reverb in this manner without just washing it and making it a cool sound effect. ive watched some videos on how people add short reverbs as a "glue" then long ones for the ambience but theres also a whole realm of adding hard panned reverbs and such.

>>127524023 #

I’m working on it but this week has been a little hectic. If you stick around I’ll post it this weekend. Maybe tonight or tomorrow :)

im thinking of buying a line 6 pod go instead of using amplitube. what do prodders think?

>>127526580
>amp sims
why have you not already googled this?
neural dsp for vst. maybe that ai thing people were talking about iike a year ago if you're autistic.
if you want hardware you just go for one of the 3-5(?) big names that everybody uses.
pod may be fun, and obviously you can make cool music with it regardless, but it's not a serious contender for serious people in current year, unless you're doing strictly light guitar work or only clean tones or something like that, maybe.

>>127526580
>>127526974
I like guitar rig

>>127526193
Pretty cooI. Always wanted to give 8-bit/16-bit stuff a go, but struggled with making each sound fit and not be messy/ear rapey. I used Magical 8-bit, so dunno if that lends anything to that or it's (more likely) a skill issue. Might be a dumb quetion, but are you supposed to EQ/mix/master 8 bit stuff like everything else, especially when made in a DAW with VSTs? I should probably just learn a tracker instead.

>>127526103
Pretty cooI. Always wanted to give 8-bit/16-bit stuff a go, but struggled with making each sound fit and not be messy/ear rapey. I used Magical 8-bit, so dunno if that lends anything to that or it's (more likely) a skill issue. Might be a dumb quetion, but are you supposed to EQ/mix/master 8 bit stuff like everything else, especially when made in a DAW with VSTs? I should probably just learn a tracker instead.

I put tape specifically around my left ear before I wear headphones now. I have no idea why I tend to get painful acne there if I don't do that because I clean the phones often.

man if massive x just had a different filter browser instead of the stupid >>> menu ... i'd be soo happy

>>127527062
Got anything you'd want to share with guitar rig being used? I'm curious about getting either that or the Nolly X neural DSP.

>>127527882
penis bollox

any feedback is welcome, still need to figure out the structure https://vocaroo.com/1sc1AEQRpMHF

>>127527882
https://vocaroo.com/1jpCNyLlpgkB
all guitar & bass tones are guitar rig (at least 2 of them are just presets)

>>127527911
no, not your favourite food, anon. G U I T A R R I G. Try reading again.
>>127527951
Don't like the guitar tone much, but the bass sounds decent. Appreciate the good demo, though, thanks.

>>127527997
>Don't like the guitar tone much
the lead or the rhythm?

>>127528048
Both. Lead is marginally better but still sounds a little too, I don't know, characterless to my ears. Might not be the best way to describe it, but basically something sounds off about it to me that I don't have the proper vocab to describe.

>>127527882
nta but this is all guitar rig 5, except the bass iirc (direct out but maybe has a cab on it?)
https://vocaroo.com/1kIjhP1fDYnO

>>127528099
I had trouble getting the rhythm guitars (its double tracked) to sound right, both tonally and compositionally. I tried out a lot of shit and settled on the one that sounded 'good enough'.

The bass came out perfect, I wouldn't change a thing about that. Bass tone was an accident - I as practicing with my pbass and left an e.guitar preset loaded up (the "heartbreaker 100" preset) and it sounded fantastic so that's what I used.
I think the lead guitar tone works fine, but others have told me that the lead feels a little too quiet in the mix; it's possible I slightly overcompressed it. Lead guitar tone is just the "Stadium Solo Lead" preset, with some slight tweaking.

>>127527997
you are a gay penis bollox

>>127528169
no u

>>127527882
https://vocaroo.com/19OmOGRXcmRg
This is mostly guitar rig 7 lite, with some bias fx 2 standard used, as I got both for free at the same time. It's an old recording.

>>127526277
From the reverb section of Yep's wdyrsla (why do your recordings sound like ass) pdf

>>127528145
>>127528214
Thanks both. Nice deftones at home tune on the first one (not derogatory). Hard to tell what's mixing choices and what's guitar rig for things I don't like the sound of from each of the vocaroos. I think the main gripe might be that I can hear that it's not from a real amp, but that may be cause I was listening super attentively/critically through mixing headphones and on my speakers. Probably still more than good enough for me as a shitter trying to learn this stuff anyway.

>>127528523
I doubt you could tell real amp and amp sim apart in the blind test. Unfortunately, I don't have real tube amps laying around otherwise I'd made a voc the switches between real & fake for you to guess with. IMO, any of the popular amp sim plugins (guitar rig, amplitube, neural dsp, bias fx, amp room, etc.) are great.

Shit, there are pop records from the 2000's that literally just used a line 6 pod 2.0 and nobody even noticed, so they sure as shit won't notice that you're using an amp sim VST. Just pick whichever one you like the workflow of the most.

>>127528523
>Hard to tell what's mixing choices and what's guitar rig for things I don't like the sound of
i mean i think the fact that every reply you got sounds completely different is pretty telling.
either way, as somebody who's used both and also has ears: there isn't really any reason to opt for guitar rig over neural dsp in current year unless you just got it in a bundle (me).
one's old. one's state of the art.

do yall have strong opinions on valhalla plate?

>>127528642
GR7 isn't that old

>>127528741
>strong opinions about plugins
>2025
Most contemporary plugins these days are pretty darn good, even free ones. If it does the trick and doesnt sound like ass or brick your computer, who cares?

It isnt 2008 anymore when plugins had distinct strengths and weaknesses and investing in one took serious research which you had to weigh those strength and weaknesses up against your needs because they often cost a decent chunk of money.

I remember people argued to death over what was better, Sylenth or Massive and it was usually accepted that Sylenth was better if you wanted to go the house/trance music route and Massive was better if you wanted to go the drum&bass/dubstep route.

All while autists sat and twiddled with FM8 and purists still recorded hardware/modular synths. retards just pirated Nexus2 and people who's internet connections were slower than mail just spent a day downloading synth1.

These days, MassiveX, Serum/Serum2, Vital, Phaseplant, they all do the same job and they do it well enough that nobody is going to hear the difference. It's the same thing with most reverb plugins, compressors, clippers, limiters, effects and so on.

>>127528841
~~unless they overhauled literally everything about guitar rig and i just don't know about it, it may as well be. ~~

okay i just looked at the product page and supposedly the few amps and some of the effects actually were, "machine learning" whatever.

guitar rig 6 was essentially just a re-skin with new cabinets added.
it's also not exactly a common knowledge-observation but NI clearly re-uses a lot of effects and re-plugs everything throughout their plugins.
it's cool that they finally updated things in 7 though

>>127528892
>who cares?
I CARE BITCH what the fuck

if you're a casual user making casual sounds for nondescript music OBVIOUSLY it doesn't matter what you use.
if you even somewhat resemble a non-casual user and dig past surface level differences all of thos plugins are completely fucking different literally what are you even talking about

>>127528935
>~~unless they overhauled literally everything about guitar rig and i just don't know about it, it may as well be. ~~
in 7 they introduced a new modelling algo, it's substancially better than the older stuff. Unfortunately, there's not many new sims using the new algorithms. IMO, the new amp sims that 7 introduced put it on par with other current amp sim plugins, but it's down to taste ofc.

>>127528973
damn i might actually stop holding out upgrading komplete now lol

>>127529008
komplete upgrades are overpriced if you ask me.
you could always sail the high seas

>>127529024
100 bucks when the sale comes around every summer.
... unless they changed that too, in which case it's over between us

>>127529045
not sure upgrades were even on sale this summer, but I'm already on komplete 15 anyway.

>>127528935
It's fucking amazing how much time and effort you people spend on plugins and hardware instead of getting actually good at what you're doing with what you all ready have.

>>127529129
>how much time and effort you people spend on plugins and hardware
explain exactly what you mean by this.
what do you think me or we people are doing exactly that isn't just practicing?

>>127529129
NTA but I can at least see the value in trying out different reverb plugins, as each one can have a different character that isn't always possible to replicate through other means. However, 90% of the time I just usea convolution reverb with a handful of IRs that I like. I invest more into virtual instrument VSTs instead - esp. acoustic drums, pianos, and strings.

>>127529146
>explain exactly what you mean by this.
what the FUCK do think you're doing? Why would you even consider engaging? Think you're fucking smarter than that retard, do you? Doesn't seem like it.

>>127529209
i asked literally one question. 10 seconds to type.
very simple then you go off on some random tangent berating somebody you made up in your head?
buddy, look in the fucking mirror. if i'm taking a wild guess here, you're the exact type of person that wastes hours arguing with people on a fucking cartoon forum instead of doing anything worthwhile. fuck off and get a grip

>>127529146
I'm the anon you're actually talking to, this >>127529209 retard is just baiting

Chasing the next thing, thinking it's going to magically be the thing that allows you to make good music.

Like the other guy mentioned (I'm not trashing him for it, just using him as an example), he got Komplete 15, good for him, I hope he gets what he needs out of it, but he can probably skip a few Komplete releases for the next couple of years and rather focus on making music, producing, mixing rather than getting Komplete 16 next year and wasting 2-5 months familiarizing himself with and learning the ins and outs all the new software and libraries. Like what the hell does Komplete 15 have that you couldnt do without without by owning Komplete 14?

Maybe I'm weird that way that I dont want to spend all my time signing up for subscriptions, downloading every new iteration of a plugin, library, daw and spending hours installing shit, troubleshooting, working our backwards compatability issues with older projects and spending hours and hours trying to figure out how to route some shit that I know how to do with the stuff I all ready have. Just for something that sounds maybe 5% better? I'm certain I can get to that 5% by just adressing it in the mix or when recording.

It just becomes like the synthheads who keeps buying synth after synth, putting off that magnum opus they're one day going to make when they get all the synths they need, only to find 20 years down the road, their studio is a museum and they're just a collector, not a musician anymore.

If you like new stuff, good for you, if you manage to make cool music with it, good, just dont chase new things because they're new thinking they're going to change anything. That's my 5 cents.

>>127529371
i mean yeah i completely agree, and also i shouldn't have even responded.

i'm still on komplete 10 because of that exact reasoning, but it annoys the piss out of me when pseuds just lazily throw out "doesn't matter git gud xp" or blanketly assume that every gear-post is coming from somebody who's a proverbial "gear head" GAS addict who's just lazy and trying to pay to win or whatever the fuck.
Actually i'm just mad because the thing i just spend half an hour working on has to be scrapped FUCK

All this faggotry
And none of it even approaches the joy of the “I need some pussy” vocs

>>127524958
>For fucking around without a laptop or PC but still using Ableton.
???
that's like the opposite of why you'd want a standalone

logged into plugin boutique and realised that I apparently bought RC-20 when it was on sale in like 2022. but I never bothered to make a fucking xln audio account to activate it.

genuinely fuck buying plugins legit and having to make 500 different accounts

>>127528523
The most important thing is to make and finish music you're happy with.
1. No one cares about your tone as much as you.
2. Even the "perfect" tone in your head is not going to sound that way when mixed in a recording, so get over perfectionism and find what gets you closer to your goal.
After hearing enough single tracks/stems of good songs, the magic is in the whole song production and not the obsessing over the tone of your single tracks.

>Hard to tell what's mixing choices and what's guitar rig for things I don't like
Definitely a factor.
I'm sensitive to a lot of the same things you probably are with "cheap" or "bad" sounding guitar tones by bedroom producers from being one myself and hearing so many examples. The two biggest gripes are distortions sounding like waveshaper presets on a cheap recorder and cab sims sounding like strong EQ filters fucking up the tone after the fact. It's really noticeable in that one vocaroo's rhythm guitars that sound like a cocked wah with presumably the strong HPF/other EQ wonkiness applied causing phase shift and that boxy sound.

I think some of the VSTs like GR/Amplitube are more like pedal platforms of convenience for guitar players. They can sound kinda cheesy but that doesn't mean you can't mix something good out of them. I use a cheaper plugin that works for me but also a lot of just DI with stock plugins or other free VST effects I've gathered over the years. Just pick something and go with it, but know that you'll have to probably dial out a ton of the processing fizz from 3-4k+ that doesn't exist in real life amps. It's really easy to sound lifeless without thinking about dynamics in your playing and compressing/expanding is another thing to factor in.

The sims seem to aim for metal/high gain which is a lot more convincing in digital, I find getting good, versatile dirt sounds is still tough to do without pedals but you can get close enough with ITB. Anyone listening probably can't tell or care.

>>127530029
>And none of it even approaches the joy of the “I need some pussy” vocs
New version of the silly house remix coming up.
I'm going all out 2008 on this one.

>>127526974
Ive done a lot of googling already and I think the effects processors are just good options to play around with. Amplitube is the only amp sim im familiar with

>>127527104
Traditional 8bit music is less concerned with mixing/mastering and more instead focused on arrangement. Really that's true with all genres, but with chiptunes' emphasis on simple wavfEorms especially there's less room for EQing as things sound thin really quickly.

Learning to write parts that don't clash is the biggest learning curve, but it carries over immensely well to music as a whole. Learn to differentiate parts by waveform selection/duty cycling, avoid parts that clash in the same register, and when breaking that strategy, focus on complimentary/counterpointed melodies. With limited channels come limited notes, so using single channels for multiple parts as a way of filling dead space in a song is valuable.

I don't know anything about 8bit VSTs, but I can instead suggest learning about hardware from the era whose music you're interested in writing. Particularly what sound chips and how many channels each offers. That provides a template of sounds that's easier to start from. Famitracker/Deflemask are great trackers, and what I began with when they were hot on the scene. They emulate old hardware, so it's easy to stay authentic within the confines of a single soundchip.

https://vocaroo.com/1jEophdujjI6
How do the guitars sound? and is it easy to pickup with theme of the song from 1 listen?

>>127531028
please tell me the vocals are a placeholder

>>127531188
What's wrong with vocaloid vocals?

>>127531238
it sounds REALLY out of place with the rest of the production

>>127531238
> vocaloid vocals?
They sound fucking horrible. I was not saying anything because I thought for a second you had your girlfriend sing on it or something, but get those "vocal" out of there.

Guitar sounds a bit muffled, needs some more presence and could probably be turned up a couple of db.

>>127531240
>>127531270
I think it sounds cool, but i see your point. I feel like there's enough rock/metal music out there with angry dudes grunting into a mic. I wanted to try something different.

>>127531316
>I wanted to try something different.
I can appreciate that, a true artist should experiement. If you ask me, it's a failed experiment as it just feels silly. Rest of it sounds pretty good

Man fat Adele was so fucking hot I just cranked one out to pic related no joke anyway
https://youtu.be/Obp6kuOFsBA

>>127531316
There's nothing wrong with female metal vocals, the problem with the vocaloid vocals is that they dont have the intensity to match the song so it just sounds bad.

>>127531392
>No self-promotion allowed (eg. sharing your soundcloud/youtube links).

>/prod/ don't fuck with cute uwu metal vocals
CUH RINGE BRO

>>127531409
At least I can play an instrument. Go program some midis pussy.

>>127531436
being able to play an instrument has unironically gimped me because I keep grabbing my guitar instead of prodding

>>127531436
i play like a million instruments fuck off me u little bitch

>>127531404
Not my video

some shit I made today
https://vocaroo.com/1a7PoRh0fPIR

guys i'm gonna use a preset but you can't make fun of me mkay? :\

>>127527951
ran your stuff through some equipment with minimal changes. Mostly letting premps do the work with hot signal. Then getting to 10 LUFs for the lulz.
https://vocaroo.com/1igBXLfVFBan

>>127531718
bro I think you quoted the wrong anon

>>127528145
>https://vocaroo.com/1kIjhP1fDYnO
ran your stuff through some equipment with minimal changes. Mostly letting premps do the work with hot signal. Then getting to 10 LUFs for the lulz.
https://vocaroo.com/1igBXLfVFBan

>>127531731
oh

>Guitar Center fucked up
>Purafied Audio plugins 99% off to shit on them
Lol

>>127531670
>https://vocaroo.com/1a7PoRh0fPIR

that was cute. sounds like something that would play behind some microsoft service ad in 2008

>>127531731
>https://vocaroo.com/1kIjhP1fDYnO
that actually sounds good. youre telling me 'preamps'' unshittified his previous mix all by themselves? i dont know much about that preamps stuff but the low end sounds much fuller and rounder. was it already there or what happened lol?

>>127532445
how do people get sync licensing deals anyway?

build_?
(double movement, defib, fcar) (meta slave always)

https://vocaroo.com/14NQIC56W9Y6

>>127532480
idk man youre asking the wrong person, but probably uploading your music to some royalte free music page like on envato market place and hoping somebody picks it up?

>>127532507
i dont know what all of that means but the 'pad' in the beginning is really sorry

>>127532597
frick

>>127531028
I fack with the song but as the other guy metioned, the vocaloid voices lack intensity and energy, it just sounds out of place. it sounds like its sang by two shoulder length haired karens in their 50s and 60s,


basically the vocals sound like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bnanI9jXps

More Pussy. Final part of The Pussy Triology.
sigh, I miss the sounds of the 00's.

https://vocaroo.com/1g21YHgNQwfd

>>127532507
Ghost in the Shell (gas station).
:3

>>127531436
>herrrrrrr I can play my dumbass guitar by myself in my room and nobody ever wants to hear it because it sounds like shit
Have you ever even recorded a song?

>>127532724
i only saw the first(?) movie that came out. is the rest actually good?

idk what that means but i was thinking of pretty hate machine for the pluck so it's slightlyyy on that retro-future sound i guess

>>127532507
Lmao is that a preset??
Haha what a dumbass

>>127532665
Based. The peoples champ

>>127532761
i only use presets and stuff bro

>>127532776
That's so gay LMFAO

>>127532847
Notice how he didn't say homophobic. He said homo-phobic, which essentially means "scared faggot".
Skrillex has been secretly a chud this whole time and the dog whistles have been under our nose from the start.

>>127531397
>>127532654
I see what you are saying, it does sound flat. There are parameters like intensity in the editor that could help a bit, but it will never be as good as a real performance.
>basically the vocals sound like this:
I know you're taking the piss, but its not that bad right?.......right?

>>127532926
>I know you're taking the piss, but its not that bad right?.......right?
It's not far off. It's just a complete missmatch. Sounds like a little girl singing karaoke to a metal song.
>but it will never be as good as a real performance.
You're right about that.

>>127532926
There is way better tech than vocaloid, like Cevio and Voisona. Look up Chis-a

Problem is all the English is a bit jank but you can cover some of it up with arrangement/production

>>127532745
It's been forever since I watched it -- whenever it was on adult swim, so I don't really remember.
Just vibes. Like... the GitS Playstation game OST is pretty ballin'

>>127532769
>>127534084
is there a joke here that I'm not getting?

>amen
i would like. uninterrupted sleep. pls,,

https://vocaroo.com/1k8GlbPdpyyo

How do I make generic pop music like Benny Blanco

>>127534797
100% unironically and un-maliciously you should be asking reddit about pop, not 4chan

>>127534412
>pretty hate machine
Ramen? Yakisoba...

I muhst pruh-doos

>another tinder fumble
I gotta give up and focus my energy purely on music production. No more of this side questing shit.

https://voca.ro/11BLM6tLse7o
how do I make good record scratches in ableton

>>127531028
i like the idea (and the guitars) but I think the mixing on the voice and the pitch could use some work

/r/ableton/comments/1n0pog8/windows_fps_frame_rate_is_there_really_no_way/

kek at abletonbros being stuck at 60fps, also kek at op's replies to everyone

>>127532507
the mix on this is so strange to me

>>127536931
Oh shit this motherfucker just gave out the Bitspeek on the master secret weapon

>>127536968
i already changed it, but explain if you can, please.

>need to work on an old project
>all the plug ins i use are different now
>did an awful job recording at the time
this is gonna be a lot of work

>>127538717
Just do it again from scratch, but better,

>>127532507
>https://vocaroo.com/14NQIC56W9Y6
pointless

>>127539617
y r u bullying me

>>127531731
cool. sounds better.

that tune is from like a year or so ago and after looking at the project file again a lot of moves like the high mid cuts seem much more obvious now.

>>127539718
Nta but you used a preset

>>127539951
my mum said i'm allowed one preset per song 8(

>>127524934 (OP)
https://vocaroo.com/1jhBrCgyC3Qq

Here's a lil loop diddy I made it'll sound sick laid out

Bitwig 6 looks pretty neat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJF7i3x46Ec
https://cdm.link/bitwig-studio-6-details/

is there a good reason why most eq's only go down to -16db? i need more. it is annoying to use more than 1 eq. should i not remove more than 16 db due to resonance around the cutoff frequency??
questions.

>>127542272
eqs come with notch filters.
if you're needing to eq like that then yes, chances are you're fucking up somehow.

>>127541151
>clip automation
disableton sisters... our response?
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doesn't matter though because ableton has M4L

>>127540102
'Preset' is my nickname for the kind of noises your mother makes when I fuck her raw. Why? Cause she came with those sounds.

>>127542647
are you being paid to post or are you just really bored?
"trolling" is supposed to be funny. you just sound like you're 14 in your edgelord arc

>>127531316
keep using vocaloid anon, I believe in you

why does a guitar sound good when you throw it into an overdrive and distortion blender but a piano sounds fucking horrible?

>>127542849
pianos don't run through a cabinet

>>127542862
you can run a piano through a cabinet and it'll still sound shit. also, you can distort a classical or steel string guitar and it'll still sound good, see the glow pt 2

>>127542951
piano gets distorted on like a million different recordings man idk what to tell you

I used to have this """shitty""" 10€ or so earpiece microphone meant for gaming back in like 2009, and it was the only mic i had for a long time, and since I had nowhere to fix it into position I would often just drop the mic into the sound hole of my guitar. and the sound would distort a lot when playing with some force because of how shitty the mic was, but the distortion was actually really pleasing. but instead of seizing the opportunity and make noise rock or something with my acoustic guitar, I decided that it wasn't proper because "you don't throw distortion on an acoustic guitar". and eventually I got rid of that mic... now I wish I still had it because it sounded so interesting on the recordings.

/blog

>>127542993
>"you don't throw distortion on an acoustic guitar"
Sometimes i think nobody on this board actually listens to music

>>127543023
it was 2009 you cuck, of course I hadn't listened to everything under the stars when I was 15 and didn't even have internet for more than a year at that point

>>127543062
Whatever gramps i'm sure you never heard a distorted acoustic guitar on the radio at any point KEK

>>127543212
how would I know what I heard you retard

>>127543212
>calling a 90s baby 'gramps'
Ok, fetus.

should i drive to the music store today and buy an effects processor for my guitar?

>>127544268
nah

>>127544365
i think my pedalboard is outdated and im trying to streamline it. ill still use some pedals with the fx loop but im trying to save on space and power.

>>127542849
My theory is because it has less high info. Because distortion adds a lot to the highs you want to use a tone that has few, like a guitar, bass

>>127542849
timbre difference. different harmonics from each instrument

>>127526103
https://voca.ro/1dL8wiL8BHbS

Made another little one. I liked the melody, didn't know where to go with it, kept it short.

>>127542849
Most keys have multiple strings on them ringing out which produces more harmonics, so distortion will sound bad especially since the strings will sustain without the damper.

It works on things like clav or rhodes because of the difference in attack/sustain and harmonic content

why haven't you downloaded the sample cd that defined her show's sound? you promised you'd do it for she.

>>127545437
I already had it and then retards like you had to make Lain one of the cringiest things ever

>>127545479
that was the first time I posted about her in a decade

>>127545488
It was already ruined by then

Bump

i muhst pruhdooce

>>127524934 (OP)
Here's a track I made sampling the Sonic ring pickup SFX.
https://voca.ro/1dDC7cxo5Tlw
It's on the short side and I think I need some sort of transition/B section between the chorusy part with the long chords and the breakdown at the end. Any directions I could go?

And another one in the same style, with an acoustic guitar muted string sample:
https://voca.ro/17qGw90AwFaP

>>127548895
>some sort of transition
t b h i think you could get away with just some sort of drum fill with the toms or a quick synth run into it. it's very cool

i like the idea of the second one but t b h i think the chords need... extrapolating

https://vocaroo.com/1ki41HwmHezg
i did an aphex twin cover but with a twist

>>127548895
>https://voca.ro/1dDC7cxo5Tlw
Sounds good. I wasn't a big fan of the intro, something about the layered ring sounds at the start sounds off there. Other than that, I felt like there was a clear space at the end to come back around with an alternate version of the section that plays around 40 sec mark, instead of trailing off suddenly. Maybe some kind of solo even with that chorusy bit as the backing. Damn, I can hear it in my mind and it would sound nice. Good job anyway, sounds like a keeper to me.

>>127545246
Yeah, alright, another one. Why not. This one's a full song.

https://voca.ro/1kO53jCJEjYS

>>127549099
Awesome, thanks for the feedback. I'll see if I can make the intro smoother (perhaps it's the chords with the 5ths on the side which sound kind of out of tune?). I could do a solo for sure, I'm pretty good with a guitar. Thanks again for listening
>>127548965
Thanks, writing your ideas down! Definitely some kind of fusion jazz drum + synth run could fit and add some harmonic complexity.

Extrapolating like making the chords more complex? Maybe add more to the high register (a melody or ostinato)? I was thinking I should keep some space for potential vocals, but I haven't managed to record anything convincing so far. Thanks again

im remixing and adding some elements to an album i did a couple years ago because i have learned a lot, i'm also diying cassette tapes for it. i was planning on just replacing the audio files on bandcamp when i added the tapes. at what point would an album be a 'new' album, like how a lot of albums get re released as remasters.

>>127550224
>. at what point would an album be a 'new' album
as soon as it''s anything more than you "patching" the music with small fixes.

idk what you're doing but i personally dislike the trend of old rock bands re-recording their seminal albums but shittier with none of their youthful energy.
genuine re-recordings of legitimately poorly produced material (carseat headrest) or re-mixes, re-imagined (same core idea, maybe a melody but basically a new song) are cool though.

>use Reface CS as a midi controller
>doesn't have a mod wheel, but it's fine because I can just reassign one of the many sliders to mod wheel inside of Ableton, right?
>no, you actually need to use a fucking 3rd party plugin for that and then use it as an insert on every single new midi track you add
is this a fucking joke? please tell me I'm just missing something obvious.

>>127549365
>https://voca.ro/1kO53jCJEjYS
Something flat and boring about the tune in this. i think it's the sound selection. Just doesn't match the energy the drums are going for and they feel disconnected from eachother, like they are from different songs almost.

>>127550266
i'm not re-recording anything, even though i really messed up a lot of the original recording. it's a doom metal album and i single tracked the rhythm guitar. i also used a free drum/bass vst's, so i'm updating those to better sounding ones. most of mixing on the original release was done with just stock plugins and presets, now that i actually understand them i'm going back and manually doing it. overall the music sounds the same, it just sounds like it's well produced instead of a demo.

https://voca.ro/1fiq71uEB0Fg is this too muddy

>>127550438
just redo everything at that point

>>127550478
ya sure lemme just

>>127550554
yes..? dude that's like nothing

can Ableton's Wavetable synth not Glide in poly mode? What the fuck? It has MPE capability so why not? When I set it to Poly, the glide automatically gets greyed out. What am I missing? It's a software synth so it's not like "the hardware chip just can't handle it" or some shit.

>>127550224
>keeping on polishing a turd instead of releasing better albums as you get better
Has your creativity dried up?

Do you guys use Splice? Any thoughts on if it's worth it/

>>127551843
I haven’t started using it but I saw someone stream and use it the other day. Seems pretty great for experimenting and trying new sounds. You can use a bridge that will automatically sync it to the key and bpm of your open project in FL so you can just browse through samples and hear them in relation to your own project very quickly. I’m gonna try a free trial this weekend. Probably not something I’d want to become dependent on but seems cool

okie

https://vocaroo.com/11cPjhsfsuHe

Some music I'm making for a video game I'm developing. It's about halfway done, haven't EQ'd anything yet. What could be better?
https://voca.ro/1kP6fFz93Dhf

>>127552354
your electric piano and piano clash during piano chirds. your harmony is fucked.

Are there some (free) VST plugins that would emulate some analog consoles (saturation, distortion, limited to like 9 channels or something)...

Basically I would like to to limit myself work with some "old school" console to work with similar workflow..

>>127553016
>similar workflow
>in the box
I don't think so champ, emulation or not

>>127553016
airwindows buddy

then make a template loaded with your channel strips, console, blah blah

i did it