Thread 127644445

At the peak of /mu/'s relevance it was a proud elitist board where people obsessively called each others plebs/patricians. It was factionalized between indie hipsters, "avant-teens", metalheads, techno fans,etc. and lost its relevance because poptimism became the hegemonic music culture. Once poptimism conquered /mu/, it had no way to assert relevance since it became the same as any other music community, but with more of an incelish flavor.

In the distant past, /mu/ was a typical Rock-focused music board with a less developed "board culture" but a focus on the obscure much like any place in the 2000s. Then Poptimists infiltrated every music site, board and forum on the internet. In the early 2010s, everything associated with Rock and Metal was reformed to accommodate of Indie, Pop and Hip Hop. Cancer like Leddit and social media displaced music forums, resulting in a death of individual taste cultivation. Tripfaggotry and /mu/core marked this site's death knell with the board subjugated to anonymous tastemakers along with critics such as Scaruffi, Christgau and Fantano. /mu/core is hardly unique to /mu/ as it is a collection of albums praised across multiple sites and critics.

When zoomers grew old enough to post, previous ironies and jokes /mu/ were pushed into the mainstream like pleb/patrician and ironic Rap was taken seriously as a real genre. Satire no longer exists on /mu/. The new generation of /mu/tants can't distinguish between good music and satire, and thus we have the board we have now, where /mu/tants pretend to listen to obscure music they found on RYM, while also simultaneously listening to ironic Rap and Hip Hop. Newfags listen to the same albums the rest of the board does, like mindless NPCs.

just read the title of the thread
too long; didn't read
you're wrong and stupid

>>127644445 (OP)
Is that you, Kyle Chayka?

>>127644445 (OP)
i went back and looked at every jazz thread in the archives and they used to be a lot worse than the ones we have no.

how can you have satire in a world where donald trump got elected to be the president of the US? theres no room left for satire imho

>>127644539
>how can you have satire in a world where donald trump got elected to be the president of the US? theres no room left for satire imho

Because imagine the Democrats being odious enough for the American people to elect Donald Trump twice after being impeached twice.

>>127644445 (OP)
Trvke.

>>127644445 (OP)
They hated him because he told them the truth

tl:dr

>>127644445 (OP)
>/mu/core is hardly unique to /mu/ as it is a collection of albums praised across multiple sites and critics.
So are you asserting that /mu/core is the canonization of the totality of Internet Music Community opinions of its era, rather than actually Ground Zero of the IMC's current canon?

>>127644445 (OP)
>previous ironies and jokes /mu/ were pushed into the mainstream like pleb/patrician
you seriously sound like you don't get out much if you believe this revived dichotomy was unique to /mu/

>>127644457
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>>127644445 (OP)
still better then this fucking bullshit. I'm a 2018 newfag but even then it was a million times better than this fucking bullshit. 2019 was when it started descending into real shit when Semetary, RCP, Sewerslvt and all that shit started creeping in.


>ironic Rap was taken seriously as a real genre
except some of it is actually good. Yung Lean is still good.

>>127644445 (OP)
>When zoomers grew old enough to post
2015
it's a false starting point imo since back then nobody did the hood talk shit and had the broccoli cut. "Zoomers" didn't exist yet imo. I saw it happen in real time in my class room in 2017. Not the broccoli cut yet but the niggerficiation.

>>127648648
self reply but like the guys born in the late 90s aren't Zoomers in the way us 2000s niggers are.

The john peel radio program was a good reference to check new releases and overlooked music from the past between 1975-2004. Sad he died and the only reference with a wide coverage of different styles of music is christgau

In regard to old golden days of mu, it just nostalgia. Mu core is basically the same albums praised by critics/music site "establishment". Most of the discussion was about "indie" flavor of the month (anco, grizzly bear, death grips, deer hunter, crystal castles...). These groups in the big scheme of things aren't that great, with one or two good records or a couple of good songs, but that's all. Byt music is more than that indie industry complex or it's optimist permutation. There's a lot to explore but I wonder why a lot of people keep discussing predictably the flavor of the month. Who/what are the critics/music sites that dictate this agenda?

What's wrong with black influence? Also learn to differentiate between a black decent person and a thug

People who don't recognize this board as a psy op are fools

Bampu

>>127644445 (OP)
The gatekeeping and patrician stuff forced people to deep dive into music and discover hidden gems and unique albums to stop being crushed by being endlessly called out for being entry level, a tourist and a pleb. It was sometimes a hard mechanism to work with, as a lot of entry level music is the classics and therefore it was often good music, but the gatekeeping got results, diversity in tastes, charts, starter guides and all sorts of material to support people with a genuine interest in music.

>>127644445 (OP)
I mostly agree; let's fucking kill poptimism, k-pop spam, MCR spam, -spam in general-, and bring back real music talk. No more trend chasers in my board, please.

>>127644445 (OP)
so what?

>>127644445 (OP)
This board, and a lot of chan, is pretty dead. I remember posting here circa 2015 and it seemed like there was a lot more activity.
Now /mu/ and /tv/ seem to have had a major brain drain. I used to use these boards to find new music/movies and these days people only like mainstream crap that they think is independent?
Anyone have similar experiences?
I mean, people used to seriously discuss Tonetta on this board and now we can’t even keep a Jandek thread going.

>>127644445 (OP)
@grok summarize this to me like im 5 years old in less than 50 words

>>127650860
>Anyone have similar experiences?
A 100%; present day 4chan is mostly complete ass, that's why there should be a pushback against this stale ass "culture" that has taken over the boards, specially the garbage ass "every board is /pol/" type shit that chuds have wanted to force from 2016 onwards and prevents any kind of serious on-topic discussion from happening in threads.

>>127650860
There's about a dozen reasons, but the internet in general has become insanely mainstream, because it's been at least a decade since the internet belonged to weirdos. Even 4chan wasn't able to escape it, and most of the original millennial weirdos left, who were the people posting the non-mainstream stuff. They were literally from a different internet than most of the current posters. I don't think a lot of them even have children or anything, they're just literally sick of hanging around on the shithole internet.

>>127650860
Identity politics ruin everything, once the idiotic anime shit turned into a whole political thing this site was ruined beyond repair, then 2016 came and now it's a shell of its former self

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>>127650893
>>127650924
Well, I guess it’s good to know I’m not the only one lol.

>>127644445 (OP)
/thread

>>127644445 (OP)
The best place that ever existed online to discuss music and random shit was MoPilot's hidden music chatroom

>>127644445 (OP)
No one cares, faggot.

>>127650892
>/POOL/ RUINED MUH 4CHIN!
I see that /pol/ still rents free in your head.
>>127650924
This, I swear to god this board has become diet /leftypol/ at this point.

>>127651282
>I see that /pol/ still rents free in your head.
What do you mean in their head? There's at least 15 /pol/ threads on here a day.

>>127644445 (OP)
Tldr

>>127651282
>complains about people complaining about /pol/
>complains about leftypol
curious...

>>127651282
>>/POOL/ RUINED MUH 4CHIN!
It was supposed to be a containment board. Once this place had its brief period of mainstream popularity it was all downhill from there. Le epic meme magic is the only thing to blame.

>>127651301
>what do you mean in their head?

>>127651301
>There's at least 15 /pol/ threads on here a day.
Yeah, but half of them are just /mu/ defending woke artists like Roger Waters just to "own" the rightoids.

>>127651363
You sound like a mad Gilmourfag lmao

>>127644457
fpbp

>>127651363
So delusional lol. Nigga you defend millionaires in your free time; might as well just go get a job in McDonalds if you've got such a hard on for capitalism

>>127644445 (OP)
I was posting here at the tail end of the P4K hipster era when things like SXSW mattered (2010-2013), it was actually fun and informative to a teenager just figuring out how to find music on the internet. Most people made memes and jokes that ended up transcending the board and some opinions and stuff that informed wider music culture. Eventually it was all blown out and the origin of things gets forgotten. Also I can't underestimate the outside influence of pol and other boards. It's not like it wasn't a thing prior, but it definitely ticked up at a certain point and hasn't gone down. Also the lack of containment for anything that isn't KPOP is abysmal. WPOP was a direct response the unchecked KPOP spam, but now it's just as bad and even less contained than KPOP is. Now KPOP has become bold and has their own uncontained group threads. No KPOP or WPOP threads are about anything. They need to be contained heavily. It used to be good, I promise.

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>>127651342
>>127651531
>>127652167
You libtards and leftists are the reason /pol/ became the monster it is. Being utterly drunk on power and influence from the end of the Bush years and into the Obama years cannot be overestimated. Look at how you seethe and kneejerk whenever you face even the slightest pushback from nonliberals and nonleftists. It's easy to forget there's a world around you when you've been inoculated within your own echo chamber for decades assuming you'll never have to defend your preconceived notions. Looks like your coalition wasn't so ascendant afterall.

Bear in mind I hate rightoids for failing their own people. The fact it took Elon buying Twitter to save their accounts from being suspended speaks to their utter impotence. They still can't exercise power until they can monetize. Should the day come that being openly Fascist doesn't end in debanking, be afraid. Be very afraid. The decades of power you abused will finally be answered with even greater abuse aimed at you.

>>127652347
The "metal is for children" bait threads and gorespam were tiresome.

>>127652803
So what you're saying is you're so cosmically butthutt from the mean bluehairs that you're trying to threaten some non-specific retribution? I actually think that the right-wing field day going on now will cause an even more brutal and potent bluehair renaissance that will absolutely dwarf the 2000s and 2010s, anything that doesn't normalise out to the centre will just case an even greater opposite response

>>127644445 (OP)
We must crush all queers. While we understand that not all queers turn out to be part of the tranny menace, we feel it is better to be safe than sorry. We apologize for any inconvenience caused to you during our queer crushing. Thank you for your co-operation in this matter.

>>127644445 (OP)
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4n1mPYMqJuvCiaW9wdwVlb?si=7TEdam8ySq-eLYoy2Ov0Ng&pi=5y-y3AY6SVydO

Ive created a playlist that is a meta narrative, an adventure through landscapes and moods, night and day, collapse and reunion. It acts as a sonic amulet within the relentlessness of the monolithic megamachine we all reside inside of, as well as a sonic odyssey, finnegans wake esque. I bet youll find it at least interesting.

>>127652854
>I actually think that the right-wing field day going on now will cause an even more brutal and potent bluehair renaissance

No shit, nigger. I said it took Elon buying Twitter for these impotent faggots to get their accounts back. It'll take legal power to keep payment processors from debanking people. The fact Kiwifarms, an entirely US legal website, cannot collect money explains why libtards have disproportionate power. They've become the PMC through embracing neoliberalism. Rightoids have no influence even close to what libtards have.

Ultimately, it will be déclassé Whites who will credibly challenge Jewish neoliberal power. It will neither be Republican, Democrat, socialist, libertarian or anything else.

>>127652913
You are a shitpants crybaby and you need to go back

>>127652972
And you are a faggot who clearly didn't get hit hard enough by your dad

>>127652803
But I'm a centrist, retardo, I'm pro guns, pro capitalism, pro competition... I'm just for regulation of said things. You see, this is why conservacucks are beyond retarded: you see only black and white.
>Be afwaid, be veddy afwaid
Shit nigga, my guns don't give no fucks about you trying to ragebait niggas on 4chan. You also sound beyond butthurt, like you were legit a rape victim or something.

>>127652913
>A bunch of /pol/ conspiracy shit
>Defends kiwifarms, a stalking site which constantly doxxes people for the lulz
>legal
Yep, retarded.

>>127652803
I hope they put trans people in Baldur's Gate 4 and we get more 100gecs type groups

>>127652992
Thanks for outing yourself as a libtard who's too chickenshit to commit. Every George Ouzounian-tier faggot who ever breathed.

I'm a post-right nativist with Third Positionist tendencies. Nothing will fix America's rapidly declining demographic and economic problem without massive ethic cleansing (deliberate spelling there).

>>127653025
God, you sound like such a Slytherin

>>127653059
At least half of every American living today deserve to be fed into a combine harvester.

>>127653083
which half, legs or torso?

>>127653025
>you must be le extremist like i am otherwise the cia wont make it if you dont fight your fellow man like a retard instead of targeting the millionare pedos that run this country!!!! lollll

>>127653012
>I hope they put trans people in Baldur's Gate 4
This, I want to chop them up

>>127653092
Most Americans should go facefirst. If nothing else, their collective ugliness will be wiped from the earth.

>>127653111
The PMC, Jews, libtards and leftists are the enemy

>>127644445 (OP)
Wow anon, those sure are a lot of opinions
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>>127651549
This

>>127653155
You should check your colon to make sure a billionaire's hand isn't in it right now

>>127653184
Which billionaires do you speak of? Not that don't share your contempt of elites because I do, but again, who? That'll reveal your priors.

>>127653155
>The PMC, Jews, libtards and leftists are the enemy
You're wrong as fuck, but btw, you probably know no jew, have spoken to no jew and believe every jewish conspiracy regardless. Go get a fucking job and some real life experience instead of getting your "facts" from /pol/ and /pol/ TikTok commentators. Same with all the other bullshit you believe in

>>127653214
I live in Southern Jew England, you retard. I'm surrounded by Jews. Jews have disproportionate power in this entire region. You obviously are as susceptible to propaganda as you accuse me of. Of course, I wouldn't expect a dedicated libtard to be capable of understanding nuance.

>>127653262
>Jews have disproportionate power in this entire region.
Because they're the master race obviously, and have taken over the media, government, and the banks despite hundreds of years of expulsions and attempted genocide. Gentiles are so pathetic it's actually pretty funny. Next you'll respond to this with some cope analogy about how Jews are just parasites or whatever but that quite frankly makes you look even more pathetic.

>>127653262
Yeah man, you got me, I'm jewish, I just wanted to bait you. You forgot the part where I said I'm a centrist? Are you fucking retarded, Nigel? How the fuck can I be le libtard when I think both extremes are shit, you fucking baboon?
And btw, about le joos: no race is comprised of only bad or good people. Nigel, your brain is fucked, you only see black and white. Fuck you.

>>127653283
Nice flex, faggot. First your instinct was to deny and accuse me of being hopelessly propagandized while ignoring your own ideological framing. Now it's to flex and act Internet Tough Guy when called out on your false assumption. Real Michael Rappaport energy coming from that post.

>>127653311
>First your instinct was to deny and accuse me of being hopelessly propagandized while ignoring your own ideological framing.
Nope, that wasn't me, but nice try, now you're bring dunked on BITCH

>>127653310
>Jewish

Thanks for telling me everything I need to know. I've liked Jews in spite of their Jewishness. I never liked a Jew because of their Jewishness. Libtards love them because of their Jewishness and decades of Holocaustianity.

>>127653310
You are also a libtard who's too chickenshit to commit.

>>127653324
Admission of power isn't the flex you think it is. It's called giving away the game

>>127653353
LMAO as if it isn't /pol/tards that are the ones that constantly admit that Jews live in their heads rent free every single day. Jews won by your own admission, and you love to be a victim too.

>>127653371
Okay Destiny

>>127652803
>Should the day come that being openly Fascist doesn't end in debanking, be afraid. Be very afraid.
The leftists are annoying and idiotic but c'mon bro. This "we're gonna get uuuu" stuff is not becoming of you. You can be better than this. If you say that, you need to follow through with it. Otherwise, don't say it and try to have a different perspective that aligns with yourself. Have some honor and respect when people demonstrate courage, and don't engage in false bravado. Believe me, this is for your own good. I respect you. You might not like the Jews (I don't know actually) but when they say they're going to kill Hasan Nasrallah they actually follow through with it. You see what I mean.

>>127652803
And then you wake up realizing you're a sad obese man with no physical strength, no strategy and no one to talk in real life. Good luck with that le Fascist army, chubster!

>>127657909
Care to put your money where your mouth is, faggot?
2200 EST, 05/28/2020, 4210 Wolfetown Rd, Cherokee, NC 28719
Bring as many of your cowardly friends as you want; I'll go to prison, but all of you will go to the morgue

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