Thread 128419109

"De-bassed" edition

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SCALES:
https://www.all-guitar-chords.com/scales

GIT GUD with GUITAR:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg1L-sBIxnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QCt3UBTS1Y

Who's next on the block after G&L now that the guitar world is shrinking?

>>128419128
Gibson

>>128419109 (OP)
Need urgent help
Fucked up and got a katana mini-x which has been ok but should've gotten a spark mini to explore decent pedals/effects.
Friend's coworker wanted to get rid of an amp to upgrade and he's actually willing to part with a practically new Spark 2 for abt 230.
Is it worth? I know the spark 1 had bass issues, I know the app can be sorta difficult but the amp combos and how allegedly good the PG bias software that it's running in terms of amp/speaker emulation is pushing me.
If not this, Sweetwater has spark minis on sale for 180$ rn but I already have the katana mini x and I'm tired of the amp charge going out every week or so.

>>128419146
I would not go either, the Spark 2 is very limited and the Spark Mini has the same problems, but with a worse speaker.

>>128419146
tell your sweetwater rep you're ready for that plexi

What's the best way to practice scales to get the most out of it? I'm relatively new to guitar

Can anyone recommend a decent, budget soldering iron? I started reading about them, but I've sort of been overwhelmed by how autistic people are about it.

>>128419221
>28 amp heads
>130 different pedals
>Limited
Bruh

>>128419261
the spark 2 looper is stiflingly limited. I don't understand why it can't work like the boss rc-5

This is the best setup so far the pedals. I think i might drop both the reverb and chorus. I dont really know how either would fit into noise rock or sludge on bass. On guitar those effects would make sense. I wish my fucking tronographic was here but it's coming from Japan.

>>128419247
solder station with swappable tips. tin, flux, steel brillo if you're doing pedals or more. Any 40w if you're only going to weld a couple pickups.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Sh4Ov40p4Dg
Hear how much more open and clear the humbucker became. I don't know how close it is to a gretsch, but it's a massive improvement nonetheless.

>>128419146
i got the spark 1 and its p dope
spark 2 came out pretty shortly after i got my spark 1 and i was salty lol

Guitar center doesn’t want you to know this but if you have a drill and some scrap lumber, pedalboards are free
Takes less than 20 minutes to make one.

Sup fa/gg/ots, me and my fuckin baby. Well, being a Vintera I knew I’d find some flaws with this thing, luckily it’s nothing unfixable. The tuner for the g string has some slop in it, guess I’ll be getting locking vintage style tuners. The nut also needs some work but that will have to wait until the tapered shims show up. Shim, raise the bridge up, file and lube the nut slots and then it will be close to perfect. The trem is great and so is the original bridge that filters so many offset fags, why would you replace it with a Mustang bridge and lose the ability to adjust the height of the saddles?? The rocking bridge is a feature not downside. I am really enjoying having a rhythm circuit on this one, I would still say the Noventa JM has a wider range of tone but it’s at the expense of needing P90s, this has a slightly nicer clean sound. Fucking around with this has made me realize that I kind of like having to fight a guitar, I’m still going to set it up and upgrade a few things but part of me wants to leave it just how it is for nostalgia’s sake

>>128419109 (OP)
OMG

Fuck, forgot my picture..

I wonder if this is safe to use, it’s got to be 70+ years old

>>128419515
Why would I have scrap lumber

>>128419515
I have a driller
I'm a luthier now too

>>128419614
From what I found in my research, those are a bad pick for soldering guitar electronics and they can demagnetize your pickups.

You're not playing live so who cares

>>128419629
What fully grown man doesn’t have scrap lumber? Free pallets are literally everywhere.

>>128419741
i record directly to vocaroo and upload immediately here in a way its sorta live if you want to argue brass tacks and get to the fundamental problem technically live playing doesn't exist anywhere because by the time you actually hear the music played it was played in the past and the next note is actually on its way, so yeah i do play live

>>128419109 (OP)

Debating rosewood zebrawood or wenge telecaster neck.

Thoughts?

>>128419242
Up and down linearly until your extremely comfortable with the shape, then you start chopping it up and playing the same shape but in different ascending and descending patterns.

i don't think I've ever linked any of my real music its just not in the spirit of /gg/ and I'm under no delusions that its any good or even worth sharing.

>>128419128

PRS. They've already laid off people and started discounting some models

>>128419146

Just get a headphone amp. With aux out you can plug it into any run of the mill speaker

>>128419146
I actually had one in my GE cart for half the day, saw your post and went to finish the purchase aaaanndddd...

I want them to say around, be a thorn in Gibsons side so Gibson doesn't get complacent.

>>128419594
>mexican jm
>guacamole colored with a salsa pickguard
you can’t make this shit up

>>128419803
Like neck neck or fretboard?

>>128419932
Is it pronounced hazzmaster or yazzmaster, since it’s mexican

>>128419989
Juazzmaestro

>>128419717
Good to know, wiring is my one weak spot as far as working on guitars goes. Any guitar worth more than a couple hundred bucks and I’ll probably just have someone experienced do it.

You're not playing live to an audience, you're creating definitions out of thin air

>>128419932
Ensenada or Corona, either way you’re getting a Mexican made guitar. Jap Fender is the only factory you can expect quality work and QC from if you want a Fender in 2025.

>>128420084
MIA is way better than MIJ

Like on Jazzmasteres specifically, the MIJ trems are made with lower quality metal and worse tolerances than the MIA ones. And if anything goes wrong you'd have to talk to Fender Japan, probably go back to Japan to get work done on it. You should really go American on those.

Anyone else try to intentionally dumb down their lead playing to just the essentials with some smaller well thought out licks? When playing leads I normally go with lots of distortion with feedback and dissonance or faster more lead parts where I’m not cramming as many notes as I can in but definitely playing more than is needed. I’ve been trying to just really think parts out and play what’s needed and what sounds good with minimal flash, kind of like what everyone praises about David Gilmour’s playing (not saying I’m anywhere near Gilmour). It’s been fun intentionally holding back and thinking parts out instead of just improvising from the same old bag of tricks.
>>128420084
Used Custom Shop for any Fender sub $3k if you really care about the “best”, especially with tariffs driving up MIJ stuff and a lot of the higher end production MIA stuff running $2k+. I’d take a used CS over a new $2500+ AVII any day of the week. I have been perfectly happy with every new MIM and MIA Fender I’ve played in the last two or three years though, but I’ve never played a new MIJ.

why are bass guitars popular (industry standard, even) but soprano guitars almost unheard of

conditioning my rosewood with your moms juices (i fingerbanged her)

>>128419948

Both.

Playing with a pick is really fun on bass

>>128420208
keyed cabinet, anon
I'd like to hear my Revstar or Pacifica singin' through her

I'd love to get into speaker swapping but all I got a 1x12, doesn't feel worth it rn.

Does anyone know if the threading on Squire and Fender whammy bars are the same? I'm replacing the bridge on my Squire with a Fender one, but it doesn't come with the bar.

>>128420247
the new bridge will come with a whammy bar but the answer is no
American Fender and Player series use imperial measurement and the bars will not fit in the squier
don't waste your money on a lateral 'upgrade'
get a push bar not a screw in bar
https://www.amazon.com/Domofa-Tremolo-Bridge-Electric-6-Screws/dp/B0CH9JHXRY?sr=8-3
that drops into a squier classic vibe and is much better than a Fender trem, it's the PRS style i got it on mine

>>128420148

Sounds like she's getting more action than your fretboard

>>128420305
>gibberish chinese brand
hard pass for me

>>128420351
get the musiclily that's actually what I meant to post. it's literally the same thing from the same factory obviously

>>128420148
Mix it with cum and you get more sustain

>>128419109 (OP)
Picked this up for 50 dollars.
Neck is straight nut is gonna be replaced got some corian in the garage to make a new one and the electronics were crap so I threw some EMG pickups and pots in it.

>>128420185
I’ve got a rosewood neck guitar and it feels great. It’s very smooth and “natural” feeling if that makes sense, even with a light poly coat on it. Most poly necks feel plasticky, nitro necks still feel like they’ve got some finish on them, but the rosewood one you can almost feel the pores in the wood. It’s a very good feeling neck.

>go to local shop to buy some strings
>guy behind the counter asked what guitar
>tell him it’s a tele
>asks what kind
>tell him it’s a custom shop
>acts insulted that I would buy an expensive guitar
>proceeds to tell me how he will never spend more than $500 on a guitar and all of his partscasters are better than my guitar and they only cost him $350 max
bros I just got shamed for buying a $3k guitar bros I’m not ok

>>128420093
HAHA!
no.

>bro this 20 year old asian guitar I bought that the previous owner already put $400 of work and parts into is totally better quality than a mia instrument
>huh? no I haven’t owned a mia instrument why

thoughts on 80s SG specials?

>>128420632
looks awesome
dots > trapezoids
wouldn't pay more than 800 for it though

>>128420632
cant think of any

>>128420632
>gold headstock logo
>dot inlays
not a real Gibson but if you can’t do any better

>>128420622
Can you fucking schizos start replying to the people you’re trying to shit-talk? 4chan has reply functionality for a reason

>>128420550
I think he's pulling your leg. Everyone knows you'd have to pay at least $700 for a quality partscaster, and that's factoring in only the parts and no how much you'll spend on tools and equipment.

>>128420713
I don't hand out (you)s to goons

>>128420758
based

Man i thought I'd love distortion on bass but I feel like it keeps fucking my tone up

>>128420767
fuzz > dist

>>128420767
you're learning

>>128420767
all you need for a good bass tone is flatwound strings

>>128420767
I use a overdrive pedal on bass sometimes.
Overdrive is enough.

dots cleanly beat out everything, including no inlays. I don't mind blocks but I've never seen one and thought "wow this looks better than dots".

my friend's MIM classic series telecaster is the nicest electric guitar I've ever played and it cost 400

>dots better than no inlays
oh shit someone tell Antonio Stradivari

As far as bass goes, your board can be as big or small as you want, but it should have a compressor. Sometimes a compressor is the best overdrive.

>>128420772
>>128420774
>>128420790
>>128420796
I think my problem was trying to stack distortion with the big muff. The rat pedal distortion just brings it up way too high for me.

>>128420767
Base needs nothing but a good ampeg amp. Distortion on bass is fucking terrible.

>>128420840
don't stack fuzz with anything, it becomes ass.

Does it matter? It's not like your looking at the inlays anyhow, just give the audience something nice to look at.

I'm having fun but I don't know if I'm getting any better

notice the distinct lack of something? yeah it’s inlays

No frets smart guy.

>>128420888
I don’t mind the look of inlays but forget paying more money for less toanwood

>>128420897
hey n slur, those are violins not guitars

>>128420919
still a fingerboard. woah

Toan is in your fangers dumb dumb.

>>128420912
still looks better

>>128420965
>cort
no wonder it’s missing an ebony board

I use picks so toan would be from that not my fingers

>>128420550
my perception of what you just said is like the same as like building a pc or something
you can build a great PC for like 1-1.5k and anything beyond that kind of goes of the price/performance cliff where youre kind of spending your money inefficiently
but I would never shame anyone for spending more, like idk, maybe theyre wealthy lol
or maybe they just dont care like its cool
do whatever you want with your money
some guitars cost $5k+ and have similar technical specs to $2k guitars but they have some unique aesthetic shit going on or some custom whatever
just let people do their thing

You use your pick for hammer one and slurs and pull offs.

C'mon dawg. I know you a cornball brotha but get the times. You hurd?

who had the great idea to handicap themselves with a plectrum when you have 5 picks on your right hand?

>>128421028
'prebuilt' guitars cost substantially less than 'partscasters' though, in the PC world building your own is cost effective
nobody in the planet has built a good partscaster from the ground up for 350 dollars. I do believe someone has bought a used MIM fender for 350 and changed the pickups though

>>128421057
alright you won't have them for long if you're playing wound streel strings unless you're wolverine

I prefer fingers on bass but unfortunately the tone from picking sounds better with my FX's than a finger tone. Every heavy band i listen to the guy uses a pick and I'm starting to understand why.

>>128421083
you shouldn't be using a bunch of effects on bass. distorted bass is shit and weak sounding,pussy sounding flub, fucks up the whole mix and ruins the band

>>128421057
Google it retard

>>128421101
he plays metal. if he wants to remain a novice musician for the rest of his life, let him be happy

>>128421101
Disagree.

>>128421057
>>128421073
>>128421083
>>128421101
>>128421110
I imagine as with everything in music its partially personal preference and depends on the genre/piece

>>128421101
Yeah i dropped to 2 pedals. Big muff and the sansamp. I'll end up with 3 once I get my tronographic but I don't think I'll be hunting down anymore FX's. I've been around the block with the FXs and realized less is more. The tone i get now from the 2 pedals is great. I'll occasionally use chorus and reverb those will stay also. So 5 in total not counting the tuner.

let the guitar handle the buzzsaw sound. basses with distortion/fuzz have no balls, it softens the signal, it doesn't thump and hit your chest

>>128421138
This. So much this.

>>128421121
>3/4 baffle
that chunk

>>128421164
7/8.

TONEX Pedal, and TONEX ONE are featured on Guitar World's list of "The Greatest Gear of the 21st Century."

>>128421186
gat dam

>>128421069

lol what? You can literally get OEM parts for practically nothing if you shop around. Partscasters let you mix and match to taste, where OEM gives you bare min to get your money.

This is pretty much why if you have the skills to build your own PC you do just cause Dell/HP give you junk for 1k -- think soldered on memory old CPUs crappy onboard video cards.

Same for Fender, as an example, you can get far superior tuners, pups, bridge and everything to your liking -- the only downside you need to be able to work a screwdriver and a soldering iron (and there are solderless options).

The only 3 upgrades you need to do on a guitar:
quality tuners
a great amp
your shitty playing

>quality of life doesn't matter, dawg

good ol cargo cult rears its big beautiful face (AGAIN)

Back to the small one

https://youtu.be/DS-F_5FEQaE

Not a fan of the rosewood

>>128421375
That shit doesn't make any difference. Fuck off Rhett.

Very low IQ take young man

https://youtu.be/1t-gK-9EIq4

Depeche could lay down an angelic track on pau ferro. You know this to be true.

Hey I'm Hard Rock Joe and I just finished 6 tall boys of Busch Lite, haha, rock on dudes!

>>128420919
I know a fretless ukelele when I see one

I think I'm going to throw my Fat Toad cables away. Most have been resoldered 1-3 times. They can roll off a lot of treble. They fit worse into jacks than other brands. Their straight plugs are all bent and wobble.

>>128419182
https://voca.ro/19W1pdOG83rH

>>128419242
https://voca.ro/1acZEiqBFEQ7

Is it a bad idea to set up my intonation with the sweetened tuning on my peterson tuner?

>>128421810
Its all relative my guy
https://voca.ro/1cm3ZLUxz8d8

>>128421542
from the thumbnail I thought they were churros, man I could really go for a churro right now

>>128419137
Gibson's not going under ever. It's too valuable.

>>128422235
let the poor guy cope, anon

matching rigs.
tasteful.
refined.

Can't save up for a Gibson? I get it man times are tough. Why not try an Epiphone?

>>128419128
Godin

so I can just plug into a stage bug into the front of house/pa system and call it a day?

>>128419128
guitar was a boomer fad that’s over with now, no one under the age of 45 cares anymore. after the coming boomer die-off there will be a handful of talentless gen x vultures (think: joe bonamassa) that’ll swoop in and pick off the final bits of meat left on the carcass and that will be the final stage of the fad. after that it’s over and done with forever. a guitar player might as well be a stage coach driver or a horseshoe blacksmith at that point, it’s just some leftover relic from the 20th century like rotary phones or dial up internet

woah

>>128422442
session guitarists have been the same 10 people for going on 3 decades

>>128421257
if you change tuners on your telecaster it's not a 'partscaster'
building a partscaster from the ground up costs more than buying a complete tele/strat whatever, that's not my opinion, it's a fact
go to reverb.com and fill up your cart with guitar parts and see for yourself

>>128422736
if you're buying warmoth parts

>>128422736
they’re not equivalent quality tho

So I've been playing a Strat recently and I never liked hearing the gay sounding in between tones, but holy shit they are fun to play on.
I see the appeal. Just only when I'm playing them personally. For whatever reason I just can't listen to them.

https://voca.ro/1ilYV6fjUOfO
Doth thine eat of thy fat of the land? Thoust must say...

I'm seriously considering doing a warmoth tele build. I really like the idea of getting exactly what I want - stainless jumbo frets, roasted maple, wizard profile. Am I retarded? Should I just get a fender American ultra or something? I know the resale value of a partscaster would be shit and I'm not even gonna actually know if I like it until it's put together.

>>128422901
https://voca.ro/1nJcgMRok2eJ

>>128422901
Listen. We both know what's going on. We both wanna fix it. We have millions of brave patriots that can't get enough to eat without stealing. Folks, we got a problem we all need to help fix. Prices are too high, we got a guy down hear give him a hand. I knew him back in the day. Listen here, we got hope, we got an idea to be proud of. And folks we call it an American dream. I'd like to thank the people of earth and say God bless you all. And God bless America.

>>128422605
funny enough the same thing happened with accordion players in the polka music fad of the 1950s, just more evidence that the guitar fad has run its course

lotta gum flappin

you guys ever see that clown that hides from people with bad tone?

>>128423047
ligma balls

>>128422442
lol no, electric guitar is until the end of the world.

>>128423077
>replying to bait

>>128423014
if you think you can love a parts build and will keep it, get the warmoth neck. personally I just don’t gel with parts builds; something about the technical perfection yet lacking an identity

>>128423085
>parts build lacking identity
skill issue

>>128423100
you wouldn’t get it

humbuckers cornered the market and now everyone sounds like they're missing a little top end!

>>128423014
I’m in the same boat, I want to try putting together a Tele partscaster but I’m also very unskilled with my hands and don’t want to be disappointed in the final product and regret not just putting that money toward something built to my preferred by specs by a reputable builder.

>>128423200
how can someone too dumb to put together a telecaster even HAVE preferred specs?

>>128423247
Not him but I like jumbo frets even if I don't know how to refret a guitar myself

>our system thinks your post is spam
I forgot the half-nigger half-jew mutt trannys who run this site don’t want anything other than their autogenerated bot diarrhea to appear on the screen, have fun dipshits.

>>128423300
and don't come back

>>128421138
im mainly a guitar player but i will admit this shit sounds better on bass

What the fuck is Vox doing

>>128423441
holy based. is that tube driven?

>>128423441
How many times will companies do these same stupid ideas?

>buy expensive ass SSS strat
>considering selling off my MIM strat
>i kinda dont want to
uh
is this how you become a hoarder with 15 different sss guitars

>>128423276
schecter PT boom

>>128423541
It could work it just doesn’t have the right approach yet

Watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKpsuGMeqHI

>>128424136
You ok bro?

>>128424202
Who cares

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA52uNzx7Y4

>>128423441
They really should just stick to making amps, and maybe modelers

Tronographic has made it to Alaska.

>>128420767
for distortion and overdrive to work on bass you need to split/blend the signal.
Just putting a distortion pedal will kill your low end and it will sound like absolute dogshit.

Either get something like Boss LS-2 or the Tri-Parallel-Mixer from EHX so you can split your bass signal into two signals so you can then distort one and blend it back with the other clean signal. Or get designated bass pedals that have a blend function built-in like most of the Darkglass stuff but those are very hit-and-miss and expensive, if you buy cheap bass pedals the blend will often be dogshit.
Best solution is to get a split pedal and then you can use any guitar distortion pedal on bass without it sounding like shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QLZSBg1wp4 king of bass distortion in action

BOSS compact modulation, what's the best analog one and what's the best digital one?

>>128420767
>>128420839
r8 my toan (distorted part is at the very end)
https://vocaroo.com/1nVQdF6WjopP
overdriven bass
https://vocaroo.com/1o7jF2tngTdR

>>128420840
the rat sucks dick on bass, I don't know why so many Anderton vidoes use this shit on bass so often. It's great if you put it into a blend loop with a clean loop but straight into a bass it kills all low end like a tube screamer.
Same with Fuzz, don't stack anything on top, the purpose of fuzz is to make things muddy, more shit will just turn it into pure unlistenable mush. You can, however stack more shit on fuzz if you use, again, two signals. One signal is fuzz and the other signal has whatever you want. That's what Jon Stockman did at the breakdown of their song "New Day" here youtu.be/EwdDpCLlurQ?t=372 to make it boom harder. Fuzz on one line and several distortions in the other.

>>128425424
>for distortion and overdrive to work on bass you need to split/blend the signal.
>Just putting a distortion pedal will kill your low end and it will sound like absolute dogshit.
That was my main problem. I couldnt keep my low end with distortion on. The rat pedal sounded cool on YouTube but I couldn't get a tone i liked.

>Either get something like Boss LS-2 or the Tri-Parallel-Mixer from EHX so you can split your bass signal into two signals so you can then distort one and blend it back with the other clean signal.
I will look into these can probably get a used one for cheap. I love the thought of distortion on bass but it's been a struggle getting it correct. The big muff has a blend knob that I like. I keep it between 9 and 11 o clock. That with the sansamp gives me a huge amount of low end but I turn on the rat and it goes away. The guitar center guy also mentioned darkglass when I went to ask about stuff last week. I believe id need a amp+cab or a darkglass combo amp which are both over 1000 so not in the budget.

>>128425492
Your tone on both songs was really good. Kept the low end and stayed distorted. Do you also have a ls2? I can't tell what's on the board i have bad eyes. When I tried to use the ODB3 whenever I played any notes on the 5th fret or higher, it always enter guitar territory which I didnt want. You also think the LS2 would solve my problem?

>>128425590
>I will look into these can probably get a used one for cheap
LS-2 is cheaper than a Rat. I would sell that and get the splitter because now you'll be able to even use the cheapest $5 Amazon distortion with your bass and make it sound good if you have a good clean signal already that you'll be able to blend with the shitty distortion.
The EHX is probably the best if you want to use more than one pedal, and it's not that much more expensive, I would honestly suggest this one the most but if you only want distortion and fuzz the Boss is fine, too.
Frankly, if I was in your position I would drop the SansAmp and you can get an LX-2 and the EHX with probably a hundred bucks to spare for an EQ pedal to get that SansAmp toan back. The SansAmp distortion is highly overrated imo. Maybe if you want to sound like the tool guy, but now you can still do that with fucking AliExpress shit if you feel like it.
>I believe id need a amp+cab or a darkglass combo amp which are both over 1000 so not in the budget.
nonono, just a pedal. You can get a microtubes or the alpha-omega (this one is by far the best and has a distortion or fuzz mode (alpha/omega), so essentially it's two pedals). You can get the small verson for around 200 bucks (Omnicron), the big Alpha Omega for like 300 and the Alpha Omega Ultra for 400-500 bucks, the guy who helped develop them has a few demo videos on the Darkglass Youtube: www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QLZSBg1wp4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm7e9zN9eLc&t=1s
All my distortion captures are from Darkglass Alpha Omega presets.
>Do you also have a ls2?
nah, I used to but now I just have a multi-fx with captures of all sort of pedals that I can blend with each other. One day I'll fork over the cash for a Quad Cortex or the Line 6 Stadium and reach toan nirvana with all my captures, getting close with my device already.

>>128423014

You can part out your partcaster if you want to sell it.

>>128422736

Basic bitch mim vs partcaster.

Neck to your liking. Specialty gotoh Wilkinson or babicz bridge. Good locking tuners. Good pick-ups to your taste. Wiring with good components.

The part caster wins and comparable price if you shop around and source 2nd hand parts.

>>128425628
>The EHX is probably the best if you want to use more than one pedal
I definitely will be using more than one so I'll look into this one. The RAT i got from reverb and I can get a full refund still so I'm going to return that.

>Frankly, if I was in your position I would drop the SansAmp and you can get an LX-2 and the EHX with probably a hundred bucks to spare for an EQ pedal to get that SansAmp toan back. The SansAmp distortion is highly overrated imo. Maybe if you want to sound like the tool guy, but now you can still do that with fucking AliExpress shit if you feel like it.
I dont really like tool. I just happened to see a video that used the sansamp and RAT together. The shop i frequently go to just happened to have a sansamp so I was taking it for a test run. I have a EHX deluxe big muff already. Do you think I need another one of their pedals? I'm not big on expression pedals i think I'm far off from being able to use one of those efficiently.

>can get the small verson for around 200 bucks (Omnicron), the big Alpha Omega for like 300 and the Alpha Omega Ultra for 400-500 bucks,
>All my distortion captures are from Darkglass Alpha Omega presets.
I'll look into omega then. The tone you had is along the lines of something I'm aiming for. If i plan on keeping my big muff, chorus and reverb i would need the EHX splitter? Sorry if I'm being redundant with my questions lots of info at once trying to make sure i got it all right

>>128421028
Between tariffs and shipping I overpaid by at least $500 for this MIJ Jag, and yeah it was totally worth it because it unique. It’s a limited run of like 50 guitars in this color, with American pickups and components, alder body. It’s easily one of my favorite guitars.

Im now seeing the darkglass alpha omega is a preamp. I have a preamp coming in the mail already but is it possible with a splitter that i could have a blend of both?

>>128425762
>Do you think I need another one of their pedals?
Well I am talking about a splitter pedal, no expression or something. The Boss LS-2 allows you to split your signal into two channels so you end up with
Channel 1 - Clean
Channel 2- XYZ effects
and you can blend both channels with each other to your liking.

The EHX Tri Parallel Mixer splits into 3 (or much more with tweaking). And has EQ for each channel which makes it really fucking nice for toneshaping. Also has a blend for each channel so you are much more flexible. And it's only like 30 bucks more than the LS-2.

My suggestion is to drop the RAT and the SansAmp, keep the big muff, get a splitter pedal. If you get the tri-parallel give the big muff a designated channel and turn the blend up full so it's pure fuzz that you can blend with the other 2. Keep one channel clean or with stuff like EQ/compression etc. but "clean" and the third channel you can put whatever the fuck you want into, experiment.
If you got pocket change to spare I would suggest still getting an Alpha Omega, if even their most affordable version the Omnicron, and run it after the clean channel so you got a designated distortion/fuzz with the clean channel on top so you can properly stack fuzzes/distortions and because Darkglass really makes the best fucking distortions on the market. So basically you end up with 4 channels and up to three different distortions/fuzzes that you can blend with each other without sacrificing low-end.

>>128425998
Thank you for the detailed explanation now i 100% understand what you mean. I also have a rusty box pre amp coming in a few days. You think that could work on the splitter so I'd have the big muff, dark glass and rusty box on separate channels. Can i do that with the parrell mixer?

>>128426082
I would do this if I had your gear to choose from.
You can put the distortions into the fuzz channel as well if you never plan on using fuzz and distortions at the same time. And the Omnicron can go literally anywhere else since Darkglass has really good blend functions. I would put the preamp either into the clean channel or in front of the whole thing before it hits any of the channels if you want the eq to affect all effects. You gotta test out what works best for you.

>>128426123
Thanks anon this helps a lot. I'll be updating you once I have things in order

>>128426211
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAV-poSjNko
this guy is doing something along the line, explains the switcher a little bit more in depth.

>>128425937
>Im now seeing the darkglass alpha omega is a preamp
only the Alpha Omega and the Alpha Omega Ultra. The Alpha Omicron is just an expensive distortion pedal with no preamp EQ, but you're still getting the Alpha Omega distortion cirquit. Alpha Omega has more bang for your buck but if you only want distortion don't bother and save $100 with the Omicron.

Guys help which scale goes half-minor 3rd-half-whole-whole-whole-half (1 3 1 2 2 2 1)?

>be unemployed
>buy a guitar while I have free time to learn
>spend every day for the last few months practicing for hours, only quitting when I get hungry because I never seem to get tired
>have had more fun doing it than I have had anything else for the last few years
I genuinely kind of hate myself for not doing this 10 years ago.
>have more fun than I

>>128426278
Thanks i almost got the preamp on accident. Since i already have one coming I'll go with the omnicron

cum as you are
pumped of seed
soaked in jizz
as you were made to be

>>128419515
Except wood is heavy as fuck. And building a pedal board for just two pedals is peak retardation.

What projects would people recommend to get a feel for soldering? I have a Squire SP-10 amp that I think I might turn into an amp head because I've read they actually are pretty decent as an amp head.

I also have a little short neck red guitar from when I was as a kid I'd like to do something with just for the fuck of it. It only has one single coil pickup and a volume switch. I could always mod the body to add a tone pot.

I have a Squier strat, but the tremolo is a six screw bridge and it's missing, plus the tuning keys need to be replaced. I guess I could invest the money into, but I don't know if I could get money for it. Guess I could just have it as a backup.

just recently found out about Vulfpeck

the recordings don't do it for me, but the live shows make me cum a little

https://youtu.be/0oIIRc0zc_U?si=7o6WsigZPnYVDaJg&t=728

>>128426542
>Dean Town
>a bass line so good people are singing it acapella and they have to play the song again because the crowd demands it

How much should I expect to get from a shop for one of these? You think they'd go 200

>>128426694
Steal one from an old black guy from back in his hippity hop days

>>128426754
I have one already. I'm looking to sell it because it's easier to use the absolute drummer VST for drums.

>>128426345
Every few months I'll grow tired of guitar and put it away for weeks, but whenever I pick it back up I feel more enthusiastic about it than anything else. It truly is the best hobby you could get into.

Well what do you know, apparently playing for extended periods of time on a .64 gauge 7 string can cause some swelling and inflammation at the base of the index finger.

>>128422442
Basement dwellers take. There are zoomers and gen alpha bands all over the world keeping guitar music alive. It might not all be to my personal taste, but indie music is alive and well. It’s actually alternative once again, ie antithetical to what is popular and that’s actually a good thing.

Got a 3 day for naming the j*w

>>128423342
Damn son is that the vt40x? Does it actually sound good? I saw it won the anderton's amp shootout but afaik the katana 50 gen3 sounds better and has better tone studio editing capabilities

>>128423548
Yes. You’ll regret it if you sell it though.

>>128419109 (OP)
I want to get a telecaster, but I don't know much about guitars. I see a VERY wide price range, from $150 to $2,000 or more, what are the differences? Also, what other things do I absolutely need alongside it? I've heard that if you have the "wrong set up" it can ruin everything. I have an amplifier which my mom owned and that's it.

>>128427156
I would be a beginner by the way, I don't even know how to play a guitar, I just want to get into it.

>>128427095
VT80+. Yes, it sounds great. It's got a 12" speaker. I've never played a Katana GIII though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZrk6C0zHbM

>>128427217
squiers are good guitars, don't get the cheapest one though. if money is not a concern, go to town.

>>128427276
Why not the cheapest? What's the difference? I'd go to town but I'm a poorfag.

>>128427156
American will have a nitro finish and better pickups, hardware and neck. If you can afford to, find a used American tele on fb marketplace. No sense in buying a Mexican guitar you will replace later. Should’ve able to find one with a hard case for under a thousand. Some things you might need are a clip on tuner, capo, slide, picks, strap, cables etc. I strongly suggest you buy a cheap audio interface so you can use plugins on your computer and practice with headphones.

>>128427314
Buy a used squier classic vibe or Mexican tele then. Do not buy a 150 dollar guitar they are shit.

>>128427314
materials and gear used. cheaper instruments = cheaper tech built in. as in: sound is not as good.
they play just as well as more expensive ones after you get your guitar set up, which you should do in any case.

if you don't care that much and you just want to play on a budget, there's nothing wrong with that. whatever gets you going.
and once you know that you actually like the instrument, you can always buy a more expensive one.

pro tip: buy a used one on reverb or whatever you have available. maybe you'll find a more expensive one for the same price of the retail price of the cheaper editions

>>128427314
cheap guitars are weird, the absolute cheapest shit (sub $200ish) is pretty much still the same dogshit you could buy at Walmart for the same money two decades ago.
However, cheap guitars in the $300-$1k price range have jumped so fucking much in quality that many even rival multi thousand dollar pro models in quality, sound, set-up, playability etc.

Don't get the cheapest shit, but if you spend a little bit more you're likely to find absolute gems.

>people at the jam complimented me on "how i learnt stuff on the fly"
all the time learning songs by ear really paid off
im not even that good mechanically or technically but i have good ear for basslines and notes so i dont have to stop and ask people about the key when we jam

>>128427427
How'd you practice this on bass?

>>128427496
i played guitar for about 15 years and learnt dozens if not hundreds of songs by ear, its not that different on bass you just gotta learn to play more like a bass
i see tons of bassists try to do basslines that are super busy all the time and just make the songs sound muddy and overly busy, theres a time and place for taht but you should know to do simple basslines when its needed

>>128427519
Bass is a cop out for pretty boys who could never be a real musician

Will I suffer endlessly if I get a Firebird Zero? They look fun and cost very little. I expect to replace the bridge right away, at the very least.

what do you even call this genre? grunge jazz?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvZJI8rerWA

>>128427602
post-punk/alt rock like most of his music would fall into

>>128427602
>genre
the sooner you get rid of the "genre" mindset, the sooner you will create something original

Sup folks, I'd like to learn guitar.

Planning on buying a Yamaha Pacific. How do I decide on an amp?

They all seem to sound like shit until I get in the price range where the amp costs as much as the guitar itself. Should I just learn on one of the mini amps I can get for $50?

Hmmmm

https://m.youtube.com/watch

>>128427675

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i_gTUxbsgac

>>128425016
Let us know if you end up having to pay tariffs.

Blues shred improv

https://vocaroo.com/1kStPICTUXHm

>>128427343
professionals and ultras don’t have nitro

>>128427519
I always try and practice simplicity when coming up with basslines but I always try to put 5 or 6 notes into one line. I'm trying to get better at making something simple. Finding the right order to play notes is also hard.

>>128427694
Shipping was 100 pedal was 400. Only other option was 800 on reverb

>>128427722
Fender Original Series was the only /real/ production line guitar they've made in a decade.
I wish they would bring them back.

>>128427675
>>128427689
yeah I'm just going to get the affinity jag and stick some lipstick pickups in there instead, some push-pull pots to put the thing out of phase/in series

>$100 for shipping $400 pedal
you know I'm starting to think this whole boutique pedal thing is getting put of hand with these prices.

>>128427156
Having a bad set up just means it was either adjusted poorly, or not adjusted at all.
Things like neck curve, intonation, and string height.
Cheap guitars will have poor setups in most cases, so if you buy one under $1k, expect to shell out an additional $50-75 on a professional setup.
Or spend around $100 on tools and learn to do it yourself.
For your first guitar I would either recommend a Fender Standard Series or a Squire Classic Vibe.
If you get the Squire, set up is not optional.
May or may not be the case with the Fender.

>Bm chord
is this supposed to be this uncomfortable?
I feel like there is just so little room for sloppy finger positioning. either I the fingers are in perfect position or something's rattling or muted

Its a discounted pedal. It was the only way

>>128427859
get a 20 buck pedal from temu

>>128427519
you can play busy over anything if you know how

>>128427776
same. the vintage II basses aren’t bad but still not as good as the AO

>>128427915
Are you learning the bar chord version?
I honestly found this easier than the intermediate version when I was learning.

>>128427668
hoping for a response. open to any tips if someone has other guitar recommendations too. just want a decent budget setup that'll last a few years

>>128426375
>wood is heavy as fuck
???? There are hundreds of types of wood anon
>building a pedal board for just two pedals is peak retardation
And? It was something to do. Took a few minutes and was fun. I have a bigger board but for my current recording set up, I just need those two pedals for the next few weeks, so it made more sense to make a smaller pedal board.
Seriously it was like $2 worth of grip tape, a few screws (I’ve got coffee tins full of screws) and some scrap (very very light) softwood.

>>128427930
look, listen a pedal within $75~150 range is fine, better if it's from a trusted brand. heck I'd say £40~150 is fine too. you don't to spend $350 on yet another klon/tubescreamer/big muff/fuzz face clone

>>128427217
>>128427156
What amp? What do you want to play?
“Setup” refers to two things: your rig (your guitar, pedals, and amp) and the physical way your guitar is set up; i.e how high from the neck the strings are, if the frets buzz etc.
easiest way is to get a $500 squier strat and pay $50 to guitar center or whatever for them to properly string it and set it up.
I’ve been playing my classic vibe jazz bass for like 15 years and have never needed to upgrade despite being a gigging professional musician.
Again though - what amp? This makes a difference. If you need a new amp too you’ll have to adjust your budget.

>>128427668
>>128427992
Honestly those cheap Fender Mustang headphone amps are amazing.
I wish those were available when I was learning.
I use mine more than I do my Deluxe Reverb.
If you need to you could even line out into a speaker system and play loud.

This is kinda cool

>>128427668
>>128427992
I'd honestly get a boss katana or a pedal with amp sim with pedal effects you can output to self powered reference speakers, headphones or frfr speaker. You're gonna wanna explore what you like best. And if after awhile when you want to upgrade, just sell them. You can see the Boss Katana go up on the market place and sell all the time because they do the same.

>>128427668
buy audio interface and pirated amplitube

>>128428129
gigga based

>>128428025
Lmao

>>128427992
get a $300 Yamaha acoustic

>>128427985
jesus fucking christ I think it clicked. my problme was that I didn't bar cose enough to the fret or basically on it. that I way always that to spread the fingers in a way that let either the first or second string be muted

>>128427947
you can, but you shouldn't

>>128428129
im retarded, is this basically just using a speaker and software to get the tones you want?

feel like this makes perfect sense, and spending hundreds on an amp for self-play in 2025 is pretty dumb

>>128428181
Good shit anon

>>128428226
only if you’re overplaying. which is different than being busy. you should stop being self conscious about your own playing and trying to dictate what others should be doing

>>128428057
This is the amp I have.
>>128428057
>What do you want to play?
Probably a variety of different things, but classical guitar sounding stuff, like Ted Greene, and metal mainly, though metal is pretty broad.

I quit guitar cause I couldnt bar

>>128428251
>this basically just using a speaker and software to get the tones you want
yeah

>>128428332
I may be high from my success right now, but you can do it too if a bassist with logs for fingers like me can do it

>>128428251
Audio interface is going to cost as much as a cheap amp, and depending on your computer may introduce latency issues.
A cheap modeler or headphone amp does the exact same thing as Amplitube, but without a computer.
My headphone amp and most modelers can also be plugged into a PC and used as an audio interface.

>>128428332
you can just play 4 string chords. playing full voicings only matters if you’re solo

>>128427860
>For your first guitar I would either recommend a Fender Standard Series or a Squire Classic Vibe.
>If you get the Squire, set up is not optional.
not true, i bought a player II(1000 bucks) which i needed to set up myself, my 200 dollar squire however was perfectly set up.

>>128428522
cool what were the measurements of the setup on your squier

>see fender
>stamped made in ensenada
absolutely shameless

>>128428535
holding down the string at first fret the low E was like 1.5mm at the 12th fret

which is fucking crazy

>>128428560
relief? pickup height?

>>128428571
relief had some slop on it, but half a turn with an allan key fixed that.
pickups height i am unsure of, i put an emg in it a long time ago i cant check that anymore.

>>128428593
thanks. I just need people to acknowledge that being playable and being set up are two different things

>>128428293
A fender frontman works best for things that require a lot of clean headroom. I have one posted earlier in this thread, that I use mostly for math rock and jazz. They’re very loud but their overdrive channel is not going to be good for what you want. I’d look into a smaller combo to start.

>>128428560
I took my guitar to a guitar shop to be set up and had it returned with low action like that. It felt awful to me and buzzed, but when I played it on an amp, no audible buzzes nor strings choked out. I played it for a month, raised the action afterwards to my own preference and it felt better. I think some people play more gently than others and don't mind having a little buzz. I only took mine because I thought the frets need to be checked. Turns out I just missed the sweet spot on my guitars neck.

>>128428678
a real tech would ask you what your playing preferences are

>>128428630
If i had gotten it during summer, i am not even sure i would have had to turn the allan key.

shit, maybe i just got a golden sample or whatever. i have had 10 times more expensive guitars needing a new nut and a fret leveling job.

>>128428678
thats the frets which are fucked, i have another guitar which is like 1.25 without buzz on high e and 1.4mm something on low e

>>128428696
>i have another guitar which is like 1.25 without buzz on high e and 1.4mm something on low e
i also play heavy handed as fuck, i should add.

I'm currently playing guitar on my bass amp (fender studio rumble 40) and I'll need to get a guitar amp/combo sooner or later. I will only use it for home practice. I'm not against modeling amps as evident by my bass amp.
I'm literally sitting next to the amp and I found that I never turn the volume up more than 25% because it's really rumbling, alright

any recommendations?

>>128428734
yeah turn it up to 70%

>>128428734
Marshall dsl5cr

>>128428696
Frets are not "fucked", they just need a leveling, but the leveling is not worth the price at this point because it only buzzes on three frets when properly set. And my action on the neck at low e is 2mm, which isn't high.

>>128428734
but yeah, seriously just get a tonex
quad cortex too expensive

>>128428806
>my action on the neck at low e is 2mm
literally unplayable

>>128428806
actually not just 3 frets, only 3 places on the neck in general. I get a buzz on the d string in one spot, the high e one spot and low e. I don't remember what frets because it's that small of an issue. I do remember they don't share frets.

>perfectly setup
>fret buzz in 3 different places

>>128428794
I'll put this one on the list

>the guitar i fell in love with when i started playing just shipped
>the guitar with the plastic on the pickguard still on it
>fucking mint condition guitar from 1996
>its on its way
>to me
oh boy oh BOY OH BOY OH BOY

>>128428885
Where did I ever claim it was perfectly set up? It's set up to my preference. If you want to be that autistic about fret buzz on an electric guitar, okay.

1.25mm high e
1.75mm low e
simple as

>>128428947
sorry just giving u a hard time my guy

>>128428957
and then use a radius gauge to adjust the strings in the middle yeah its not bad

>>128428957
how many football fields and freedom fries per foot is that?

When you guys choose a key to write a song in do you just base it off the chord you want to intro to start on

>>128429001
'bout tree fiddy

>>128428957
I genuinely don't understand how people play that low, but then again, I play like Ira Kaplan from Yo La Tengo, so I'm not exactly gentle with my guitar.

>>128429012
and here i am, not understanding how anyone can play with higher action than 1mm on high e and 1.5mm on low e

>>128429005
if you’re playing open chords and using a capo I base it around what sounds best and then what’s easiest to play. all the keys feel different to me

buying guitars may bring you happiness temporarily but it won't actually fulfill you
Enjoy the things you have, you dont need a dozen guitars to play guitar

>>128429012
Proper neck relief is crucial with low action.
A lot of guitar players want their neck straight as a board.

>>128429046
I keep trying to tell people to just buy 1 great guitar and amp and a cheap backup

I hate playing with loose strings when I go to lower tunings on bass. Anything lower than d or c# just sounds bad

>>128428942
don't be a faggot, just tell us what guitar

>>128427398
Nah, actually Squiers cheapest guitars right now, the Sonics have identical build quality to the standard fender line. They’re both made in the same Indonesian factory, the only thing that differentiates them is components. They’re actually very very decent these days compared to the squiers of 10-20 years ago. MIM are a step up but not by much, the top of the line MIMs may be a bit better but it’s kind of a crap shoot. American Fenders have nicer components than the MIM guitars but the QC and build quality are not that
different these days. If you want a high quality Fender in 2025 your only options are higher end MIJ or custom shop tbqhwyf. I’ve tested out dozens if not hundreds of Fenders in the last few years and have bought almost a dozen in that time frame, I feel pretty confident in my assessment.

>>128429046
mmmmmmmmmmm
no

>>128428072
They sure are being cagey about what the switches on the upper horn do. But yes, this does look very interesting pickup/electronics wise, if I didn’t just get a very nice Jag I would consider it. Only being available in black is kind of a turn off though

>>128428522
Those standards are made in the same floor as Squiers, it’s the most quintessential fender move that fender has made yet, not very subtle

>>128429149
QC has a different standard on the Fenders tho.

>>128429079
one of these
https://reverb.com/en-no/item/91665282-1996-fender-50th-anniversary-stratocaster-sunburst-w-gold-hardware-flame-maple-body

>>128429082
I wouldn't even bother with the squiers now, there's cheaper options like Firefly. Your first guitar if you go cheap will never get it's resale value back. Nobody wants your modded classic vibe. So you might as well save some money, and put that towards a good amp. I'm being dead serious when I say that you pretty much have too look hard for a truly dogshit guitar. There are fucking necks made in china during stainless steel frets in fucking $200 guitars. Yeah, you're probably gonna have to get it set up, but you would have had to do the same with a classic vibe.

>>128429075
it’s called standard tuning for a reason. if you can’t make good music in 4/4 or standard tuning there’s no hope for you

>>128427156
The law of diminishing returns in guitar starts at 800-100 anything after that is just fluff.

>>128429179
Will you remove the stickers when you get it?
It's not your guitar until you remove the stickers.

>>128429225
i will take the original pickguard off and put another pickguard on it in case i ever want to sell it

>>128429223
find me an $800 guitar with gotoh 510s

>>128429223
1100*

>>128429223
Yeah maybe if you live in 2014.
Diminishing returns set in around $2.5k now.
An $800 vs a $1,600 guitar is night and day.

>>128429239
>find me an $800 guitar with gotoh 510s
>>128429223
>fluff
Missed that didn't you.

>>128429179
Man, i need one of these.

>>128429223
my nigga, an 800 dollar guitar wont even stay in tune.

>>128429268
>changing shitty tuners out for good one is diminishing returns and fluff
at that point should’ve called your cutoff at $300

>>128429281
>>128429286
>zoomers
Sad, many such cases.

>>128428072
If those are actual lipstick pickups, sold.

>>128419109 (OP)

NEW
>NEW
NEW

>>128429371
>>128429371

>>128429316
nah man, 800 dollars is the worst amount of money to spend on a guitar.
either buy a cheap guitar and upgrade the tuners and bridge and maybe the pots, or buy an actual high end guitar leave it as is.

>>128429179
Nifty

>>128429281
I’ve been playing on the same 50 dollar yard sale Ibanez for the last decade wtf are you on about

>>128429058
Why do you care so much? I have a dozen and a half guitars and play them all, have them set up for different things. If anything, having so many motivates me to play more than I would if I just had two

>>128429477
well you're tone deaf so it's fine don't worry

>>128429005
Basically what note the opening riff is based around, usually E, A or D (if dropped), sometimes G

>>128429518
>I have a dozen and a half guitars and play them all
Do you use all 18 guitars actually?
You don't. I only have 5 and i still find myself only using the same 2 over and over again

>>128429518
The world needs original music, not another cover band.

How do pedals/effects work on an acoustic?
I don't own an acoustic so I don't know if all of them have a jack socket

>>128429268
>find me an $800 guitar with a $100 bridge
like, just buy a $200 Squier and a 510? That's like 350 bucks tops.
I always chuckle when you retards start out with LE BETTUR CUMPONENTS
you can equip a shitplank with custom shop tier components for less than 500 bucks. Don't you fucking dare to claim that the $2k more expensive MiA is suddenly better because it has le better components. It's like saying a car is better and has double the worth because it has nicer tires.