nobody drive coupes or sedans anymore. why are you still talking about them?

>>28486107 (OP)
I want to drive one of those but i'm only 5'9 so i know ill look like a compensating douche when someone inevitably records a tiktok of me at a gas stations
Maybe in the next life

>>28486107 (OP)
This thing must be about as impractical to park as a van and not much more stable at high speed

>>28486107 (OP)
You need to be under 5'-2" to be filmed. You're too tall to be king of the dwarves.

>>28486107 (OP)
Looks redonkulous with those oversize rims on it. You can see the front brakes are tiny in comparison by all the light shining through. Sad.

>>28486330
This. SUVs shouldn't be allowed to have wheels bigger than 18 inches, because I say so. People don't realize how nice a big sidewall is and the benefits that it brings

>>28486107 (OP)
Here it is. Your mighty offroad suv.

Why does the Ford Expedition have a shitty ecoboost instead of the Modular or Godzilla V8?

>>28486431
The better question is why doesn't it have a 8.8 L V8 in the Expedition?

>>28486376
>SUVs shouldn't be allowed to have wheels bigger than 18 inches
What about larger brakes? 16" was the minimum for pic related from 20+ years ago, 17" for the following generation, and both were not known for having strong brakes even with hydraulic boosters.
>People don't realize how nice a big sidewall is and the benefits that it brings
It brings disadvantages as well, the first one is riding your sidewalls when turning sharp. Higher rolling resistance is the other one, having 1-2 more MPGs listed can be a major advantage in NPC market.

>>28486431
because ford is too cheap to put the mustang v8 in the expedition basically

>>28486107 (OP)

>americans drive cuckovers
>rest of the world drive normal cars
>profit ?

why should we talks about american cuck car culture ?

>>28486590
suvs very much exist in Europe, just generally a bit smaller

>>28486701

They are small minority . Majority of cars are sedans , wagons and hatchbacks .

>>28486107 (OP)
>Pure American Pigfat
Disgusting

>>28486590
>normal cars

>>28486734
not true I see tons of reviews in Car Magazine for all sorts of SUVs - way more than sedans at this point. Vauxhall Mokka, for instance, very popular.

>>28486750

u see reviews in Car Magazine but not cars on a road . People rather buy old car then buy new overpriced junk

>>28486746

Does driving comically large cuckover makes your fragile ego feel better ?

>>28486861
I dunno about overpriced Europe just has insane taxes so even tiny cars are quite expensive. But it's definitely shifting over to SUVs in terms of what manufacturers are mostly producing. Skoda mostly sells SUVs, Ford has the Puma.

>>28486865

that's why more and more old cars are coming back to roads . In next 10 years many car companies will go bankrupt

>>28486439
Smaller rims are more aerodynamic. You can see with Tesla that selecting the bigger rims reduces your EPA estimated range.

>>28486267
the only people who drive these are limo drivers, secret service, and soccer moms

youll be fine

>>28486282
Promasters are fucking easy as shit to park and back.

>bought euros big bad gas guzzler SUV
>Shocked that it's actually smaller than most crossovers
>Still somehow heavier than most modern fullsize trucks
Idk how the bad guys use these in car chases - one corner and you're fucked.

>>28486750
>Vauxhall Mokka
>SUV
That thing is a fucking hatchback lol. Also why do you people have to have the absolute queerest names for your vehicles?

>>28487836
>overpriced german UAZ
>big bad
lel
>gas guzzler SUV
Should've bought a diesel

>>28486944
>Promaster
Ducato

>>28486107 (OP)
>Why we talk about coupes, sedans, wagons?
Because some of us hate SUV's, trucks. We care more about driving fun, vehicle high speed stability, cornering capabilities, lower turning circle. We dont want excessively large size, heavy weight vehicles, huge blind spots, dont need any towing capabilities.

>>28486913
Whenever I see pictures of Chevy or Cadillac suvs in articles from gulf countries like UAE, Saudi's or Qatar it's always some vip from US. Locals prefer Range Rovers or Mercs and sometimes RR or Bentley if it doesn't need to be 6/7 seater.

When costs doesn't matter nobody outside of US uses glorified pickup trucks. I wonder if these rich Arabs just keep American suvs to look friendly to American leaders.

>>28488413
I like both :)

>>28486267
>I want to drive one of those but i'm only 5'9 so i know ill look like a compensating douche
You want to drive one BECAUSE you are indeed a compensating douche.
>>28486107 (OP)
>nobody drive coupes or sedans anymore
Speak for youself spic.

>>28488486
>BECAUSE you are indeed a compensating douche.
No i just like the way they look

>>28488491
The way you like they looks IS because you're a compensating douche. Your tastes aren't an fortuitous accident mate.

>>28488507
>The way you like they looks
Lmao completely jumbled that one. Meant to write
>the reason you like the way they look

>>28486746
>File name
That's an Isetta... I am thinking about getting one, but I am still weighing my options.

>>28488178
Same difference

>>28488462
sorry anon, that's just bullshit.
the american suvs are the only true 6/7 seaters out there. sure, you can fit 6/7 in an x7 or gls, but then you can hardly fit a laptop in what remains of the trunk
the only exception to this rule is the LR defender 130, and its still smaller than the american ones.

the reason you don't see those suvs outside the us is poverty and convenience. outside the us, its basically just a few europeans that can afford 80-100k vehicles, and european roads are REALLY unsuitable for vehicles of that size. which is why the x7 and gls are so small, in comparison. its not that merc or bmw don't realize that sometimes you might want to carry luggage for 6/7, its that they know the cars will be undrivable here.

>>28488507
what kind of pussy bitch car is this? Also do you hate having interior space? What are you some underfed europoor?

I like SUVs and Trucks so I can run faggots like you off the road.
Either get out my way or get crushed under tons of metal.
Your choice

>>28489421
>the reason you don't see those suvs outside the us is poverty and convenience
These gulf Arab countries aren't poor and they have plenty of space on roads to use whatever they like. Chevy/Cadillac is used solely for US delegations. I've checked and in case of delegation from other countries Saudis are using Mercs (limos, not suvs). When Putin was visiting Dubai locals bought Russian Aurus (limo built on Porsche Panamera) just to pick him up from the airport. When costs and space doesn't matter rich Arabs still prefer European cars for themselves and everyone else (except for Americans). Their wives nowadays are as fat as some of American women, but they still fit in Range Rovers and GLS along with driver and 5 children.

When you need plenty of space with more seats you can use a bus/van. If you need plenty of space in luxurious car, there's something like Rolls Royce Cullinan with 4 huge seats (or 2, 3, 4 such cars when there are more people to drive around).

Huge SUVs on pickup's platform aren't made of practicallity or luxury but are very specific, cultural, American thing where wasting space around you is identified with personal freedom. Finding niche for these glorified farmer's trucks anywhere else is pure cope, because even for thousands of kilometers of highway, body on frame will never feel as smooth and comfy and fast as unibody (and we can agree that using these in cities is pure masochism). Offroad? You can't do that on these modern, thin tires anyway.
>But there are 7 of us and we're all 200 kgs and we need holders for our 2 liter soda cups along with place for laptops for doing serious business when we ride
No, you don't. Truth is, that if you can't fit into something like XC-90 or even Q7, there's something wrong with you and riding in a car is least of your problems.

>>28488507
How are you going to talk about other people's car tastes while driving that hideous piece of shit

>>28486267
All chevrolet vehicles are PURE sloppa

>>28489421
>poverty
do you genuinely believe this? That people in Northern Europe/Japan/the Gulf don’t have the money for a 50k SUV? Why are they all driving around in their own 100k SUVs then where American products don’t make a dent in the market?

It’s not just SUVs, either. The dictators all go with Bentley, Mercedes, Rolls Royce or Lexus. Toyota dominates the harshest conditions in the world with the Hilux and LC. The fact is that the American stuff just isn’t as good and sells well in the US because of finance deals offered to actual poor people

>>28490199
>do you genuinely believe this?
perhaps i wasn't clear. what i mean is
-the only place outside the us/canada where lots of people can afford 80-100k suvs is europe
-but american suvs don't work in europe for size reasons
-outside of europe and north america, very few people can afford them
-ergo, you will only see them in significant numbers in the us/canada

>Why are they all driving around in their own 100k SUVs
rich euros will drive euro luxury suvs for the reasons explained above
elsewhere, you don't see many of them anyway

>dictators all go with Bentley, Mercedes, Rolls Royce or Lexus.
uhm... ok?

>Toyota dominates the harshest conditions in the world with the Hilux and LC
also ok?

>The fact is that the American stuff just isn’t as good
i think i explained exactly what niche the american suvs fill. 6/7 passengers + their cargo. nothing else can do this, except minivans or vans, which nobody wants to be seen in.
i never said they're as luxurious as a bentayga or cullininan, or as sporty as a cayenne or urus, or as offroad capable as a land cruiser.
i said they're giant people carriers and that they outclass everyone else is this regard.

>>28488413
>muh handling
>muh cornering
Kekd
Find a road where your typical SUV won't be able to corner at 2x posted speed and where the traffic/cops/whatever will allow keeping that speed first.
You won't, at least not easily.
Most cars on the road are fucking slow. Roads were built with way older vehicles, tires and way worse drivers in mind, so you have to do something really stupid to approach the limits of even an older truck (I own one too, so it's from experience), and SUVs are usually better at it.
And I bet a truck can handle more roads and corners simply because it can keep higher speed over rough and dirty parts of them without damage or loss of control.
>excessively large size
Buy midsize or compacts
>heavy weight vehicles
Don't buy sedans from BMW, video totally related
> huge blind spots
Don't buy nu-cars or nu-trucks

>>28490208
>i said they're giant people carriers and that they outclass everyone else is this regard.
Do you even understand how much they're becoming European vans' with with each next generation? We had it all, earlier and better.

>>28490187
>something like XC-90 or even Q7
Is a car for 4 people including the driver

>>28490255
>they're becoming European vans' with with each next generation
Lol. No. They've hardly changed in design since 1973.

>>28490791

>>28490838
Yes. That's the same design.

>>28490847
This: >>28486107 (OP)
looks more like that: >>28490255
than this: >>28490838

>>28490255
>We had it all, earlier and better.
LMAO, have you sat in a stock European van?
They're more basic than rental fleet spec SUVs.

>>28490858
That's because you're an idiot and looking at superficial aesthetics instead of design like 4x4, BoF, truck chassis, 4 regular doors, big V8, big tires etc.

>>28490896
Yeah, if someone started pimpin vans with useless stuff, end product would be something like next gen escalade or suburban.

>>28486107 (OP)
I literally just drove my coupe 20 minutes ago

>>28489809
>>28490188
Shut the fuck up lardasses.

>>28490905
Lol. You're such an asshurt little faggot. Why are eurocucks like this?

>>28486107 (OP)
>nobody drive coupes or sedans anymore
Well we've still got them, so we've got to carry them around somehow.

>>28490930
kek retard bought a car instead of a chad BOTE

>>28490930
>escalade + camaro
Extremely dark skin complexion.

>>28490953
Son, that is $150+k worth of stuff. I guarantee that is a white man.

>>28490858
Looks like you don't know shit about motor vehicles. Why are you here?

>>28490974
>Son, that is $150+k worth of stuff
Some hip-hop producer or nightclub owner I guess.

>>28491003
Nope. He's an IT manager. Also has a CT4-V Blackwing and a Panamera 4S.

>>28490986
Fuck that both suvs and vans started from same point, have similar general construction and what differs them is basically small stuff that differs different models of same kind (size of wheels, engine, suspension etc). Do you have eyes? You really don't see that square ass that is hiding interior taken straight from premium vans (because these exist too)?

Yeah, to vast majority of Earth's population newer generations of huge American suvs look, feel and function exactly how typical vans. No wonder everyone prefers fancy Mercs and Rovers.

>>28491110
>a BoF truck chassis SUV is TOTALLY the same thing as a unibody van
You're real life fuckin retarded.

>>28491014
ct4 is kinda garbo tho the platform is like 15 years old some random opel leftovers or something tragic like that
too small, cheap interior
>panamera
gangster show off car for those with more money than taste

>>28491127
Literally everything you just said was wrong.

>>28491110
I do have eyes, I also have a truck and some wrenching experience. A truck can look like a sedan from the side, but that doesn't make it a sedan, especially if we're talking about modern ones without a frame.

>>28491119
Vans just like suvs can both be unibody or body on frame. However even this distinction is getting blur because you can buy yourself a van that's theoretically unibody, but just with cabin, where rest of body is whatever you put on. Point is that both vans and pickups (such as those from which Suburban/Escalade took it's platform) have exactly same roots as small trucks and they share many similarities.

Another thing is that unibody design is exactly what makes travelling faster and more comfortable. This is exactly why European 7 seaters (no matter if suvs like RR or GLS, or even luxurious variations of vans) are preferable by everyone outside US. People usually prefer to feel comfy instead of feeling like bags of fertilizer (or whatever your rednecks have on their backseat).

>>28491110
>You really don't see that square ass that is hiding interior taken straight from premium vans (because these exist too)?
The "square ass" that has been present in these trucks since at least the 1970s? There were no Escalades, there were no SUVs, Euro vans were small and faggy with no sign of luxury, but there was the Suburban. Oh, look, it does even have the doors like vans have!

>>28491172
>European 7 seaters
No such thing lol.

>>28491176
Scratch that, I found one.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=carGurusHomePageModel&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d2647&zip=77094#listing=419531612/NONE/DEFAULT

Thoughts? Or is this too much for the year/mileage? I want the v6 rx350, preferably < 60,000. This one has a perfect maintenance history at least. oil change every 5k miles.
I would be selling my boiracer car and buying this.

>>28491186
...it has 65k miles. I didn't crop that in for some dumb reason.

>>28491174
>Suvs that looked like minivans started looking like regular vans when they grew up
Who knew?

>>28491193
>Suvs that looked like minivans started looking like regular vans when they grew up
What the fuck are you talking about? There were no minivans before 1980s

>>28491206
Sure, that niche was occupied by (sub)urban suvs before they got bigger with each next gen..

>>28491172
Your entire argument is that they're the same because they're both large and fit similar amounts of people. You're wrong and retarded.

>>28491218
A Burb from half a century ago is only 20 cm shorted than the current one, other dimensions are the same
Please don't post if you can't stop being retarded

>>28491230
My argument is that main difference in construction (muh body on frame!) doesn't matter that much and where it does, it drags American suvs behind comfy European suvs and vans.

I wonder why Americans are so obsessed with body on frame in "premium" suvs like it gives them any advantage. Probably because they grew up into liking this, just like they grew up into liking chocolate that tastes like vomit.
>>28491232
>5474mm vs 5733mm
More than difference between Merc GLE and GLS or BMW X5 and X7. They just got a size or two bigger.

>>28491270
>the eurocuck knows so little about cars he doesn't know the advantages of BoF
You adorable little retard. Towing, payload, durability, off roading.

Why do people think unibodied cars/SUV's ride better? A BOF vehicle has it's body separated from the frame by body mounts which dampen a lot of the vibrations and road noise. All I know is I've been in a lot better riding BOF vehicles than unibody vehicles.

>>28491119
The first minivans were body on frame too; what made them 'mini' vans was they were built on car frames instead of truck frames.

>>28491186
That is like 8k miles a year, not bad at all and if it has been serviced well and has a good market price I don’t see any issues with it.

>>28491413
Nothing you mentioned means anything to anyone who doesn't share your rertarded cowboy larp.
>>28491877
>All I know is I've been in a lot better riding BOF vehicles than unibody vehicles.
Because you got used to it. I bet you don't feel choked by corn syrup in your sodas either.

There are several advantages of unibody design. Let's stick to what's most important to SUVs: lower center of gravity means you can ride faster and car doesn't feel like it's going to turn over on its side (because it will if you try turning with faster speed). That's espacially important in SUVs and that's why when your goal is transport of any amount of people as fast, safe and comfortable as possible, unibody is way to go. Even modern buses are more often unibody.

Things like bad roads can be overcome with better suspension in unibody, but you can't change physics when you try riding faster with BOF. I'm not even touching stuff like lightweight (so manufacturers can squeeze more fancy stuff) and lower fuel consumption (greater range).

"Luxurious" or even "premium" SUV designed on frame is oxymoron. GM was trying to sell Escalade to rich Russians. They even opened assembly plants in Russia and Belarus to overcome stuff like import costs or innate poor built quality of American cars. But even Russians sticked to Range Rover or Mercedes or BMW. Just like Arabs and just like everyone else in the world except for Americans.

>>28491270
>>5474mm
>5,565 mm
for 1974+, retard
>More than difference between Merc GLE and GLS
Who cares? 20 cm is less than a foot and less than 4% total
>a size or two bigger.
Would be the difference between the TrailBlazer or the Tahoe and the Suburban.

>>28492112
>>Towing, payload, durability
>Nothing you mentioned means anything to anyone who doesn't share your rertarded cowboy larp.
>a photo of an Escalade towing is several posts above
I asked you to stop acting retarded. You cannot, can you?

>>28492133
>for 1974
Right before minivans started appearing on American roads. What a coincidence.
>>28492135
>Body on frame can pull a caravan!
Stfu nigger. You know shit and you've seen shit.

Obnoxious 10 mpg shitlord car and you keep complaining about fuel prices.

+As spacious as SUV
+Faster than SUV
+45 mpg plus

-suspension can't tolerate american family on russian roads

For me, it's the GMT800

>>28492162
but also the GMT400

>>28486439
>the first one is riding your sidewalls when turning sharp
let's be honest, how many people on average are throwing their vehicles around corners that hard on the street? mpgs maybe but smaller wheels are lighter overall, and back to handling, doesn't f1 use fat sidewalls?

>>28492167
I do, that's from my own experience with 70% sidewall Cooper A/T tires at slightly above factory recommended pressure. And there are other posters here like >>28488413 who claim that trucks can't steer or corner compared to cars, that they are not fun to drive. Well, they can and they are, but sidewall wear and possible sudden reduction of grip in the front is the price you have to pay for the fun if you want to retain higher sidewall.

>>28492178
Shut the fuck up, no one cares about your cope.

>>28486590
All the same around the world. For poors there hatches and kei cars.

>>28492178
ok. but for the average person that whines about how sedans aren't comfy anymore and they feel every pothole and bump in them and buy suvs because of it, fatter sidewalls would absolutely benefit them without really affecting much else.

>>28491918
now to decide whether it's worth giving up my '19 fk8 for it. I have back issues and a bumpy ride is concerning sometimes. but my commute usually isn't THAT bumpy...
decisions, decisions. I should test drive it.

>>28492240
Yes, and even some normalfags are aware of that.
For some reason they are still being conditioned that "bigger wheels (rims) are better": optional wheels are offered as a part of option packages or standalone, and they are bigger than base wheels and cost extra.
>>28492361
I have previous gen RX (OEM 19" wheels, 55% sidewall, standard suspension) and I don't like how it handles bumps and potholes in terms of spinal comfort compared even to GMT800 with coil spring rear end. I'm thinking about switching to 18" wheels, but it probably won't change much: it's Camry platform with car suspension travel range underneath, and it's heavy. Non-hybrid without rear wheel drive might be a bit lighter (also front-heavy), but who knows. Try it if you can.

>>28488507
Nice clow shoe anon.
>>28488491
If you drive a tahoe or yukon because you have kids it's one thing but if you like the way any truck or giant suv looks you're either blind, compensating as per the other anon, retarded hilllbilly
Source I live in hillbilly land

>>28492162
The gmt800 tahoe best but I have the second best suv

>>28492513
as a yuro, if i ever win the lottery, im DEFINITELY buying/importing an escalade ESV. the amount of seethe it would generate would be incredible.

>>28492525
Wrong generation, anon. Only the first one has a proper transfer case iirc.

>>28492470
interesting. I'll give it a test drive. The salesmen are hounding me.
Sucks giving up a fun manual car but maybe I'm at that point in my life. I also have a '90 miata at least for when I want to rip it, at least :[

>>28492869
Vehicle pricing does not include sales tax, $1788.50 reconditioning fee, title and registration. Please see dealer for details.
ah nvm fuck them. Another $1789 does not make this a good deal all of a sudden. I'll keep shopping around and drive a different one. For $30k I could get a 2019 or 2020

Tranny SUV

>>28493155

I used to be a pickup fan til I realised they were not great for hauling cargo that I want to keep covered and secure.

Tbh a minivan trumps both SUVs and Pickups in terms of hauling cargo and storage.

But covered beds are a decent compromise I guess.
Then again why not just buy an SUV?

>>28492513
I just like being higher up, having more cargo space, and more cabin room.
I'm a big dude that feels extremely cramped in most conventional cars.

>>28488507
Take that curve again, but make sure you're flooring it this time and finish the fucking job

>>28493395
There are no V8 4x4 short wheelbase SUV's left in America.

>>28486107 (OP)
I have a 2 coupes and a sedan Anon.

>>28492877
All that matters is the Out The Door (OTD) price. Any kind of dealer fee is irrelevant. They can keep the fee and drop the car price or drop the fee and keep the car price. It don't matter.

OTD price and interest rate are all you should be caring about.

>>28486107 (OP)
Because they are fun and sexy

>>28486431
Ford isn't based enough to do that.

>>28494346
why did it just fart like that

>>28486282
Our parking spots are bigger.
Highways the fastest I was able to crooze relatively regularly is 110mph, and all for these trucks and SUVs do that no problem. They ride quite nice.
>inb4 that wouldn't work on autobahn in 1996 before all the balkaners, turks and arabs moved in and the you could actually drive fast

>>28486107 (OP)

>>28493400
a Sienna is equally if not more spacious, while also having better ride quality and far better MPG. vans are supremely underrated

>>28494525
>a Sienna is equally if not more spacious
It's not even close to as spacious. The trunk cargo room in the Sienna is also abysmal.

>>28492513
It's more like I want to just drive it for a couple of days so i know what its like.
Obviously i wouldnt buy one as a single man.

>>28494525
It’s funny, I got a new Sienna as a rental because they didn’t have the sedan I selected as my preferred choice (it was the cheapest option) when I reserved my vehicle rental car. It was extremely spacious as you would expect of a mini van, the seats were easy to fold/put away to make all of that extra space, and honestly it was quite peppy for a mini van easily overtaking slower traffic when I needed to and yeah that mpg was damn good for such a large vehicle on par with a cuv’s mpg iirc.

>>28492513
>giant suv looks
I’ve been meaning to ask for people’s option on older suv designs/dimensions. I have a 3rd gen 4runner and typically suv of that era are smaller looking than current/modern SUVs. When I first test drove the 3rd gen 4runner I was pleasantly surprised how similar it felt to drive and turn into corners/parking spots like a modern sedan/coupe and it didn’t felt as wide as my dad’s new Tacoma.
Do you think older SUVs are also “giant” sized?
Personally I wanted a SUV/truck, and in this case specifically the 4runner, is because I do a lot of activities that’s are out in the wilderness/off road environments and I’m fine with not having the most performant vehicle on the highway/roads when I’m in town and I’m getting older and don’t really care about speeding to get to some destination quicker for whatever reason.

Mom is looking at getting an SUV, she doesn't like the sedan that she's driving and wants something newer (E39 M5), and I get to buy her car and pull the engine out of the M5 she's currently driving and slap it into my E30 like a fucking degen. All around fucking win. Top end budget is $32k for her. She wants an SUV as they are higher up, and she hates being that low with lights in her eye constantly. She wants more storage in the rear, and she likes the idea of having a bigger vehicle in the event she's in an accident she would slightly better protected. AWD is a must for her as we get snow and rain, the M5 breaks loose. She knows how to drive, I've seen her power over after the rear end broke free once and it was a sight I would never forget. BUT she would like something a little more stable on the road.

So some options:
>2025 Subaru Outback
>2025 Subaru Crosstrek
She likes the idea of a new car, but hasn't bought a new car in over 20 years, and doesn't understand the horrors on the car industry all too well. She is open to the idea of used.
Other options that I have found in the area are two of each brand for variance listed below:
>2014-2016 Lexus GX460 ($26-28k, 70-100k miles),
>2018-2019 Volvo XC90 ($21-$22k 70-90k miles)
>2017-2019 Toyota Highlander ($23-25k 90-110k miles)
I hear those Lexus are awesome and people hold onto them, but with the new GX550 a lot of trades are happening and now would be a good time to scoop one up. For the Volvo, it looks like most of the depreciation is out of it, maintenance is considered 2x higher that the Lexus over the 10 year span, but the insurance rate for her is shockingly low as with the Lexus. Lastly the Highlander is in there as an option just for similarity, they look nice have similar comforts, Toyota has a good reputation for reliability, but honestly if the price is that close to the Lexus we might just go with that option. What do you guys think, anything else I could consider, thoughts or concerns?

>>28494640
I would go with the Lexus especially if she is used to luxury design cues with driving a bmw m5.
Also Lexus/Toyota is just gonna be much more reliable.

>>28494665
Yea that's pretty much what I was thinking. She likes the GX460, drawback is that it's a gashog with the weight, but I like the fact that it's an NA V8 rather than a supercharger or turbo option in the Volvo, and a little bit more than the V6 in the highlander. However owners of the Lexus are basically like "yup. Nothing but oil changes and gas... nothing has gone wrong."

>>28494707
that thing is a HOG

>>28490187
ive definitely seen videos of arabs with tahoes and suburbans

>>28492638
>haha look at me EPIC trolle they madd!1!!!
70% chance you're a NEET. The remaining 30% means you're slav.

>>28493400
>I just like being higher up
>mixed"""chad"""
Disgusting creature. Mind of a woman, skin color of mud, intellect of a child. Curse.

>>28495095
>he typed with his delicate lady fingers

>>28495097
Shut the fuck up fat fuck. You probably can't even throw a punch.

>>28495092
He hasn't even started and you're seething already.

>>28495100
I don't need to, I can hold onto your head while your tiny arms flail around like a cartoon

>>28492699
No it has a centre locking dif on all but no low range on gen 2, you could even get a rear locker for the 958 but it's ultra rare on both gens, works on my machine TM got stuck once in soft snow but even the guy who gave me a tow strap almost got stuck with a 80s chevy 4x4 thats half the weight and has giant mud tires

>>28494605
Fair they have great space but a 5 seat suv makes a lot more sense as a daily as a sedan replacement

>>28495372
>no low range
Yeah, meant this.
>you could even get a rear locker for the 958 but it's ultra rare on both gens
So no low range, no front locker at all and the rear one is unobtanium? That's as close to the second best SUV as my hybrid Lexus cuckover. In other words, very far from it. I'm not the Tahoeposter, but I have a GMT800 to compare the cuckover to.

>>28486107 (OP)
SUVs are based and I don't care about those people who hate on them.
CUVs on the other hand can be made fun of, I don't care for them and should not be classified as a SUV.

>>28486107 (OP)
Where would SUV sales be without white bitches who hate capitalism buying them