Thread 2827599

Italian motorcyclist got mauled to death by mama bear in Romania bear country.
This is the last photo he took.

>>2827599 (OP)
Kino

>>2827599 (OP)
Tbh I'm surprised to hear that Europe even has bears. I'm really surprised to hear that Europe even has nature, even if it's a minimal amount. The euro anons that post here make it sound like an overly urbanized nightmare where /out/ culture isn't even a thing.

>>2827607
Why did you post this to reddit? Why are you on reddit?

>>2827612
>The euro anons that post here make it sound like an overly urbanized nightmare where /out/ culture isn't even a thing
I've said this before in other threads, but most of those guys aren't who they claim to be. My favorite so far was a "danish" guy claiming he couldn't legally buy strike-anywhere matches due to EU legislation. A bunch of guys sent him links to where he could get them, some replied in danish, and he'd just keep repeating the same "EU bad, everything forbidden bcs jews" shtick.

Anyways, Europe isn't that urbanized. The american coasts are much worse. Central US has less urban areas, but much less nature. Here in Germany, or anywhere in Europe except the former commie states, the fact that plots of lands have been subdivided for millenia has resulted in plots of land mostly around 1000m2, many of which have been neglected for so long that by now, they're basically primal wilderness again.
Where I live (Germany near the french border), if you're careless, you might walk up on wolves and lynxes within sight of the nearest village. No bears here, but further south, they're around. Though the government keeps denying it (just like they deny the wolves around here) so they don't get pressured into making protection zones for them.

The mama bear was probably mad that this boomer was listening to ac/dc too loud while sitting at a traffic light reving his engine every 0.5 seconds

>>2827612
why’s that so weird? https://youtube.com/shorts/2IF6DGPWtP4?si=5zWZRsTpgThUPlPi

>>2827613
>Anyways, Europe isn't that urbanized. The american coasts are much worse. Central US has less urban areas, but much less nature.
This is absolutely untrue. Have you been to the US. I live in a small city. If I drive half an hour (15 on pavement + 15 on gravel), I'll be in a sprawling wildlife area. I'm talking about thousands of acres. Any coastal area in the US has far more nature than any country that isn't Russia or in Scandinavia.
>Here in Germany, or anywhere in Europe except the former commie states
Germany is a former commie state.
>many of which have been neglected for so long that by now, they're basically primal wilderness again.
Not true.
Europe has no freedom and no nature. Maybe you can buy strike anywhere matches, but that doesn't mean much compared to what you can't do and what I can.

>>2827599 (OP)
This is why when you see a bear you shoot it. Young, old, large, small, close or far - you fucking shoot it. I've shot 4 bears out of season and have never had a problem. If you gut shoot them they'll run a mile away from where you were before dying and if anyone investigates - which they won't - you're scot free. Fuck bears, fuck bear shit, fuck having to bearproof every fucking thing, fuck bears that kill elk and deer and gamefish, fuck bears that tear up cabins. Fuck em.

>>2827655
Yeah but we had Hitler.

>>2827612
The western parts can be quite dense but it's not very even unless you're in the Netherlands or Belgium. France and Spain have some of the lowest population density areas in the EU.
Thatone incident was in Romania though and the further east you go, the larger the (relatively) untouched areas are.
Romania is a pretty unique case though because it has very large forested and mountainous areas that can be reached fairly easily thanks to Ceaucescu's "highways to nowhere" . It's a common destination for european bikers who want to go ride the scenic "wilderness" without having to go off-road.
>/out/ culture isn't even a thing.
You can't really do weeks-long treks in complete wilderness unless you're in the arctic areas and if you want to hunt then you need to be familiar with your locallaws but that's quite a stretch saying there is no /out/ culture in Europe. The fishing, bikebacking/touring, hunting and hiking scenes are pretty neat over here.

>>2827655
Aaaand I've hooked the first "europe bad, mmmkay" troll...
>I live in a small city.
So do I.
>If I drive half an hour (15 on pavement + 15 on gravel), I'll be in a sprawling wildlife area.
If I walk 200m westwards, I'm in the woods.
>I'm talking about thousands of acres
Well, I'm not gonna convert to retarded units, but we're talking ~1200km2 of just forests. And that's just the continous area. Around a third of Germany is forested, and it's easily possible to hike from the alps to the baltic sea while camping in the woods every night.

However, that's not "nature", it's forests. Same as most american "nature". sure, if you've never seen untouched wilderness, like parts of russia, scandinavia and eastern asia still have, everywhere with trees seems nice. But the difference is stark. American forests are basically wood plantations by now, while in germany and the scandis, due to inheritance divisions, there are thosands of small plots, too small to efficiently use for anything, that haven't been touched for a century or two.

>Germany is a former commie state.
Back to /pol/ with you, stormfag.
>Europe has no freedom and no nature.
Anybody have a shotgun? I'm starting to feel like parrothunting.
Btw, are you amerifats still having to measure barrel lengths?

>>2827692
You've poked the bear, now enjoy the /out/ purity spiral where (you) are not actually doing /out/ stuff unless you homstead off the grid with the closest settlement being a week long walk away, farming and hunting your own food. Unlike ME, the one true /out/doorsman who has lived innawoods his entire life (yet still has perfect internet coverage in order to shitpost here, on /k/ and on /pol/)

>>2827599 (OP)
I also took pictures of bears in Romania but safely from inside my car
I'll admit that I was pretty fucking paranoid during my first hikes in the Carpathians though but it turned out the scarriest things were actually the massive unsupervised sheperd's dogs

>>2827612
Just spend some time on satellite maps of Europe and you will see forests and mountains, not everywhere is the Netherlands
Similarly, not everywhere in the USA is Montana you also have massive urban areas and entire states dedicated to intensive agriculture

>>2827709
Cub

>>2827599 (OP)
Good,they don;t let us own guns over here,you gotta jump trough hoops to get a shitty hunting rifle,hope more people die.Bear population is out of control but they don't usually hunt them unless the bear hurt someone first.Fuck this tyrant country hope the bear rape as may as possible.

Does anyone have the full video?

>>2827706
>You've poked the bear, now enjoy the /out/ purity spiral where (you) are not actually doing /out/ stuff unless you homstead off the grid with the closest settlement being a week long walk away, farming and hunting your own food
Yep, I know. Actually farming my own food, living within 200m of Germany's largest forest, getting my hunting license this year and having lived of the land for weeks at a time before makes it pretty funny when cityfags claim I'm /in/, to be honest.

>>2827720
>they don;t let us own guns over here
Is romania really that bad, or are you another burger troll? Because in most of Europe, getting guns is as easy as going to the gun store, picking one, and paying.
Only downside is that you're pretty limited in what guns you can get without a license, with most countries restricting everything that isn't a blackpowder singleshot. But then again, if you do get a license (which is trivially easy btw), you can get things americans (with the exception of licensed gunstore owners afaik) can only dream of.

>>2827669
brownoid detected

>>2827738
>you can get things americans (with the exception of licensed gunstore owners afaik) can only dream of.
Where in Europe can you own machine guns?

>>2827692
You are an actual fucking retard. Did you drop out of school at 11 and then just never read anything ever again?

>>2828294
It's 4chan. It's pretty likely.

>>2828294
He's seething in another thread right now. lole.

postingpic,,,of bur ishoot.,
,,,salted hisass!,now to bearspray,,,Fully seasoned~

postingpic,,,of bur ishoot.,
,,,salted hisass!,now to bearspray,,,Fully seasoned~

>>2828314
Go back to Ferntucky, gremlin.

yeah that happens sometimes

I live around there (foot of Bucegi) and they have become a problem, but our incapable government does nothing about it. Last estimate from the ministry in 2023 is that there are between 10.5 and 13k bears in the country, but wouldn't be surprised at all if there's more. At the end of the day they're protected, and Romania is big and has many remote places. They walk around my village willy nilly anyway, especially if it's foggy. In the last years there's more or less a monthly report of a bear attack and someone either was killed or maimed. On the one hand I say fuck these creatures, there's too many and I just want to hike into the forest from my house and look for fossils and cool plants, but on the other hand tourists being killed I support 100%.

>>2827599 (OP)
Moron
Bears are native to Italy as well, he should've known better.

>>2827599 (OP)
>Italian
>Omar Farang Zin
Yup, that's an Italian. 100%.

>>2827612
>Tbh I'm surprised to hear that Europe even has bears.
It's only Western Europe (particular the northern parts) that genocided any predators from existence. Eastern Europeans actually value nature and wildlife.

>>2828315
showbur.

>>2827738
There's literally no weapon that you can buy in your country that I cannot purchase in the US.
>but muh barrel length laws, but muh machine gun laws, but muh suppressor laws
Just get a tax stamp and you can get literally whatever you want. You can buy a tank with live ammunition if you do the proper paperwork here.

>>2827708

1/2
If you're in Europe either:
>no dogs - not innawoods

>everpresent chance that you'll get near dogs - congrats, you're innawoods


if I will give some hard learned advice:
> drop the ego. ask local guides detailed questions about routes. don't trek a trail that doesn't offer easy alternative headings (don't get yourself bottlenecked-see next)
>out and backs are your friend. Of course, any loop is also out and back, but if you're at the edge of your capabilities, 9 miles in to a 10 miler full day trek, 500M elevation, no water, and suddenly a idiot shepherd left his dogs roaming loose you have no option but turn back. Don't get bottlenecked or you're going BACKWARDS 9 miles to the car and town and not 1 mile.
>dont rely on gps maps, phones fail, make drawn maps, learn them and use them as well as you can. laminated helps also. triangulate, use a compass, learn how to detect north at any given moment for example
>always bring a trekking pole, ideally one you could use as a shield/spear if you had to
>nobody cares if you carry a weapon if you don't EVER flash it about
>sometimes you can appease inquisitve dogs with crackers. not angry ones, but edgy ones, throw that floofer a cracker and he will be less edgy. this normally happens for dogs roaming small towns and not necessarily farm dogs (which are always imbeciles)
>dont carry heavy shit you dont need to. keep keys on your person in case you gotta ditch your pack (bad scenario but might happen)
>get some chem lights, a little mirror, a small 'light; strong torch to give SOS symbols (worst case scenario
>you can spot dogs further away if you carry a small pair of binos, it doesnt really bother them or threaten them too much but dont like raise and stare hardly at them for a long time, same as you dont raise a stick to them as if it is a weapon cos dogs are smart(well, trained anyways)
>food and water and make sure some of your food can also hydrate you .

>>2828644
2/2
>don't do too much alone,, make friends, or at least go where there are many other hikers. the woods are not supposed to be your alone fantasy or larp, they can be, but good luck doing that when you fuck your ankles or piss off animals. just drop ego and be responsible. make friends, say hello (couples are harder to make friends on, but normally you can smile with the lady and greet the man,m and if he is not an asshole you can talk, its ok. it is good if you have family/wife and appear as a solo trekking man and not young odd person)
>I have a ratio and theory because I live quite innawoods: zero people around is 20, a few is 50, busy is 100. I calculate around a number, and I let that tell me how much of my capabilities I wanna use that day. it normally means how confident I feel to challenge myself bases on how many other people can be near me. in practise it means I push my abilitys on weekends when lots of tourists come - is ok, because more people see you say hello and it feels better.

>>2828645
3/3
I will agree that most of this becomes irrelevant if you have a firearm that you can use safely. even if it meant trouble I would shoot my way to safety if I had to. I think if something attacks, or you 'know' it is attacking, you just shoot and survive. This is 100% one of the things that made me start to believe in and support 2nd ammendement rights. at least we have knives.

>>2828314
What's up, Bacon? Where did you see this guy?

How is anyone this stupid? He had a motorcycle.

>>2829193
patiobur,,,had kids justin door so had 357 undershirt,,justin case.,YANK dooropen and BARK!,left claw markscurry away!
,,ratbur tore up friends beehive,,riped shed to get bird foods,,,spread trash...,
,animal control traped him again(was atransplant from Tahoe dumped here),,shiped east.,
,,Nbur.

>>2827669
>>2828392
fuck em

>>2829545
It's all fun and games until you see the mother bear come out of the brush. I'm guessing that cub is used to humans though as normally even the cubs are pussies and scare off easily.

>>2829194
Tourists.

>>2827599 (OP)
This is Potter y

>>2828336
My fate in Christ, the whole damn country is killing bears. It takes like 100 lei in supplies to make a bear snare, don't rely on our corrupt government, take charge and kill bears on your own. It is really not that hard. I have never done this as I am a dirty Bucharestanon, howevER I have relatives whol live rurally and let's just say that they take the law in thier own hands.

The shitheads in Buchares just want to keep their EU NEETbuxx and for that they need to keep the European Commission happy. Don't want to get into politics but they will never actually solve this problem with the bears. Take initiative and solve it on your own.

>>2829810
>too many wild animals
>we need to turn this shithole nature into a parking lot
Hang yourself with that snare my man

>>2829825
Nigger, do you know what it is like to live in fear that a fucking bear is going to maul you while you go out to pee at night on your own property (yes we have outdoor toilets because we are a shithole)? No?

Well this is a reality in my country. Rural people live in fear because bears come to their farms and plunder their crops and steal their animals. Heck, even in big cities like Brasov you have these bears that eat trash and terrorize the locals. I am not saying that we need to cut down our forests, just that we need to kill more bears, not all of them, just enough os that the population is not forced to go to cities and villages for food. There are too many bears for the amount of wilderness they have and yes we should have more forests and more protected land for them, however that takes time and we do not have that. The only utilitarian solution would be to bait and trap them, if the government is not willing to do anything about it.

Don't tell me that you are one of those hippies that would gladly eat game but don't you dare touch muh fuzzy lil bears, they didn do nuffin'! They good boys!

>>2829826
>have fairly fit for purpose hunting schedule for a while
>"erm akshully bears are cool and you shouldn't hunt them" says the Bucarest urbanite
>no more bear hunting
>pretty bad loss of job for all the hospitality sector in the area that welcomed a bunch of foreign hunting parties
sad

>>2829826
Then we should kill worthless third world trash and not valuable bears

>>2829829
Yeah man, I am embarassed to have been born in that fucked up city. And you are correct, we used to have bear populations under crontrol, but the ecologist lobby wouldn't have that and the EU too. When hunters are not allowed to hunt, sadly you have to poach.

>>2829841
>we
Who are you to care about what we do in our country? This isn't the board for it, but I just hate entiteled westerners who do not live here and who do not understand this country and its problems giving us advice.

I'd tell you to shove it up your ass, though knowing westerners you'd porbably enjoy it. So have fun chocking on your empty threats!

>>2828401
>Eastern Europeans were too weak and busy fighting each other and the turks
ftfy

>>2829849
Stop speaking our language, trash. Stop posting on our websites. Stop using our technology, you fucking caveman piece of shit. We arent equals. You're a fucking animal that found a pc. Get the fuck away from us.

>>2829852
Jesus..... Mutts really are stupid. I know that you people aren't really into that whole logic thing but such whataboutisms really do not put your culture in a favorable light. This whole subhuman "WE INVENTED THE PC" has to be the "white" american equivalent of we wuz kangz.

I wish you many narrow paths and breathtaking scenaries. Hopefully though we will not ever have a tete a tete, for your sake.

Europe has zero nature. The birds are drones, the wolves are feds, the bears are furries on meth. Trees are made out of plastic, oxygen comes from VW plantations. Its completely OVER

>>2830016
I'm a EU government pigeon-drone operator and I can confirm this post is 100% true.

>>2830016
Yurop doesn't have meth you smelly mutt

>>2830031
Are you retarded? Czech meth is all over saxony and brandenburg

>>2829826
Can you not own and use a damn shot gun?

>>2830120
This is Europe, anon, guns are banned. We usually use firecrackers to scare them away.

Lmao third world trash was actually hurt by my post and needed mommy to make the bad man go away

Its only trolling when its ironic, you stupid jannie

I meant every word

Third world TRASH should be kept seperate from real humans
These creatures shouldnt be allowed to speak our language or use our technology
Fucking subhumans

I mean imagine engaging in outright CENSORSHIP solely to salve the hurt feelings of some worthless romanian gypsy

Its so fucking pathetic I cant even laugh

>>2830227
>>2830228
I nevER repoted any of your posts, my guy, but it is clear that you can not stay on topic. Have fun getting banned.

>>2827599 (OP)
>Bears
>In Europe

wut ?

>>2831592
There's plenty of them

>>2831845
>plenty of them
I was going to say "Not really, only like 2000 of them in the entire continent".
But then I decided to look up the population of brown bears in the US. Exclude the forsaken hellhole known as Alaska and it's about the same or even less than in Europe.
Always learning shit...

>>2831859
>"Not really, only like 2000 of them in the entire continent".
And upon further reading, excluding the forsaken wasteland known as Russia, it's like over 15000 bears.
Making the following statement completely moot:
>Exclude the forsaken hellhole known as Alaska and it's about the same or even less than in Europe.
If you exclude Alaska the US has like 1/10th of the brown bear population of Europe.
Of course the US makes up for it by having a shitload of the little four legged pussies known as black bears, which don't exist in Europe.

Super interdasting...
See anons, everyone can learn new shit, even retards like us.

Depends on the location. In my area, that is wilder and less human dense, they are hiding. To be fair i never seen one. I found lots of tracks, even fresh. Parked the car, went to climb a hill, returned one hour later and fresh paws near car. They avoid contact with us because they are used to know we kill them and have fear. Most people don't care of laws and they shoot them anyway.
Just send someone from SRI then and now to kill some near the road and they will learn not to make contact with humans.

>>2831861
Romania has 12 000 counted bears

>>2828401
>not muh predator GENOCIDE
Now a-days yes poaching is fucked, but bears would literally drag someone away from your campsite and into the woods randomly because they had 0 really fear of humans.

>>2827599 (OP)
>motorcyclist
>italian
>boomer
based bear making the world a little bit better

>>2827708
I did a small hike in the poland/ukraine border last may and my gf and I got face to face with a wolf.

Hey this is my thread from /trv/
>>>>/trv/2809943
I want to go somewhere end of August and now I'm thinking maybe Tatras mountain range would be cool for hiking and just stumbled on this thread and now kinda scared. I'd be there alone, going as early as possible to get nice landscape photographs. How woody is the national park? I was thinking more alpine grassland plateau.
Is it a bad idea going alone? Should I be really worried about bears?
>https://tpn.gov.pl/tatra-national-park

>>2827708
Holy shit, you were close to that one! I've seen bears at Yellowstone and Banff/Alberta, but at like 50 meters at the closest.