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All video related questions and discussion is intended for this thread. Here we discuss techniques, gear and anything else related to capturing video footage. Please don't pretend to be an expert if you don't know what you're talking about. Kindly leave your ego at the door.
Posting short films/scripts or other work you've done is encouraged.
We tend to use and recommend DSLRs/mirrorless cameras because they provide phenomenal picture quality for their price, have large sensors (ie the same size used in high-end cinema cameras and higher) and have interchangeable lenses.
In contrast, consumer camcorders often have much smaller sensors and a fixed lens.

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Quick FAQS
>what’s the best camera available on a “budget”?
The blackmagic pocket cinema camera 4k, or the Panasonic gh5 (can pick one up for like 500 bucks atm)
>what’s a good beginner video camera?
Anything that works, shoots at least 1080p and preferably has interchangeable lenses. Any recommendation beyond that will cause arguments so read the fucking sticky if that isn't satisfactory.
>What's a good sound solution that won't break the bank?
Zoom h1
>Can I use a zoom lens for video?
Yes
>Do I need cine lenses?
No
>Do I need 4k?
No. 1080 looks great on a cinema screen. 4k looks better.
>Can someone tell me if my video is any good?
Yes, but be prepared to receive harsh criticism. If you're going to waste 5 minutes of our time with a shitty out-of-focus montage of nothing then we'll tell you that it's crap
>Is it okay to dox myself?
...Personally I wouldn't but what do I know?

>>4432908
Yes, anon, thank you very much.

>>4433528 (OP)
Anybody here primarily make their living off doing social content for clients? Influencers, restaurants, other businesses, etc? I have a buddy doing that in Toronto and I honestly didn't realize people bought paid shoots with nice equipment for social shit. I thought it was 99% interns/owners son with a phone or something. Do businesses see a genuinely better ROI with ""proper"" video content?

>>4433606
Once you start having to crank the stuff out like bigger channels do, typically short videos/reels daily and one or two longer videos a week, yeah usually it gets easier to farm out the video/editing work. Then the “creator” can usually focus on scripting, networking, and promotion and the like. Is it plentiful work? Eh, that I don’t know, but it is out there.

>decide to finally get into video
>"I'll make something simple & short first"
>solo project
>5-10 minutes about the last days of a historic industrial building and the people that work there, before it's demolished, rebuilt and made fully automatic, leaving the old guys out of work and changing the local architectural landscape
>script out the general idea
>shots of the ancient machinery working, people doing their jobs, breakroom scenes, etc, interior, exterior, and demolishing, a little voice-over, an interview, shoot around the town some too where the building is relevant and visible
>simple enough
>organize the access
>shoot... FOR A WEEK (not all day, but still, different weather and lighting conditions)
>4:2:2 4k Log. MUH HDD SPACE
>whatever at least the workstation is a beast
>still have to go back and get a few shots more that really should be included
>start reviewing and organizing the footage
>IT'S BEEN A WEEK
>start cutting, yea, that's a pile of work right here
>grading, etc, still to come
>either it was going to be like this from the beginning or this shit has been snowballing
Well this photofag here certainly had no fucking idea how much effort goes into making a simple 10minute docu that in photo terms is essentially just a few snapshots

>>4433741
Shoulda just done stills and Ken burnsed the fuck outta it lmao

>>4433741
Theres a reason why even small yt channels have teams.

>>4433741
This is why the advice for how to start getting into videography is always to just start shooting. It's impossible to convey what it takes through words (in a way that anyone will believe at least). And it's impossible for you to understand what works for you without trying it yourself.
Now that you've gotten a tiny bit of experience, you can dial back and think about what it is you actually need to make the content you want to make. Better mics? Gimbal? Faster lenses? A camera that has smaller file sizes?
You also now hopefully realise why so many shooters find youtube reviewers insufferable because they all review products from the stance of "can I make my tiktok vlog look like it was shot on expensive hollywood equipment with minimal effort from myself?"

>>4433762
>And it's impossible for you to understand what works for you without trying it yourself
this, well for anything really, you need to try the cheap shit first, fail fail fail, then figure out what you need to do next time.

>>4433746
Seriously. Next time I'll be shooting 6K and faking pans in post instead of shooting a bunch of takes trying not to screw up that tripod pan. Or I need top get a better tripod or DIY some handle extensions with a pipe for smooth panning. And zooming with a photo lens... lord have mercy, perhaps I can try attaching some kind of lever to the zoom ring too.
>>4433762
It's been enlightening for sure
>why so many shooters find youtube reviewers insufferable because they all review products from the stance of "can I make my tiktok vlog look like it was shot on expensive hollywood equipment with minimal effort from myself?"
Amen

I can always tell when a youtuber users a sony because their skin is either bright pink or totally lacking in any luminance ("color graded")

>>4433741
>4:2:2 4k Log
>grading, etc, still to come
You don't need those. Apply a rec709 lut, downscale to HD and don't look back. Focus on the story, the video is just the means to tell it. Plenty of documentaries were made with bare 16mm film stock and they did absolutely no color timing or other tedious bullshit.

ive been dabling in video lately and I like it a lot but the audio quality on my r10 is lacking

I dont need anything fancy, just something to capture ambient sounds (trees blowing in the wind, birds chirping, people talking) without the sound of cars driving past or wind blowing making my ears bleed

should i buy a stand alone microphone and/or get some software to edit/enhance the stock audio?
what mic should I buy? what software do you recomend?

>>4433741
At least you went out and shot something.

I got a lot of gear when I was shooting live bands before Covid. I got Petzval lenses and bokeh control lenses so I could put cool bokeh shapes in the back of the bands and cheap parfocal cinema zooms so I could zoom in on the bands without losing focus. After Covid hit, I lost all of my gigs. Now I have so much gear (most of it used to make cool looking bokeh that only bands or artists or hipsters would care about) that I don’t know what to bring out with me for a shoot or how to land a shoot. How did you get permission to film inside of a factory? I’m a major autist so talking to people ain’t for me. With bands it was easy, they wanted footage to get people to come to their shows or buy thier music.
Now, I just need to figure out what I can film since live music shows ain’t a big thing where I live any more. Most standard video gifs: bands, weddings, etc. died after Covid. What’s in the vogue now so I know who I should ask if they need any filming done.

>>4433896
Told the managing director my plan, and to my surprise the old guy was just happy that there's someone to document the last days of a place he's been working at for decades. Turns out they didn't have any proper photos even. Personally showed me all the machinery, operated some, did a few double takes even for me, got the history, bunch of funny stories, the whole tour, and at one point actually a few hours to shoot completely alone with very nice natural light after they had shut the machines down for the last time.
I'm doing it on my own dime, it will probably not even be seen by anyone other than the (ex-)workers, their families, and the townspeople, or perhaps people in nearby towns who might be interested in it for whatever reasons. All I had was a normal zoom, a 50 prime, 3 batteries, a tripod and a shotgun mic. Not in it for the money as I ruined another artistic hobby of mine by going professional more than a decade ago so I won't be making that mistake again. Arts and money just don't get along in my opinion. Or artists and soulless business fucks, if you will, but I've grown to dislike the client work in general. If some crazy guy wants to just donate money to me, fine, but they get 0 say in what gets made, how, and when.

Alt+tabbing back to Resolve, let's see if I can finish it by the end of this month, this blogposting here is eating into my research- and editing time.

man i cant color grade for shit
t. photofag

>>4433741
keep going
make more nigga

>>4433956
I never color grade video or photographs I just shoot to JPEG or MKV directly

what is your opinion on old tape camcorders? The meme is that's the next big thing like how film photography blew up

>>4433915
Fuck man, that actually sounds great. I'm sure the old dude appreciated it in his own way. Lots of the last generation just spent so much time doing one thing and they might feel like the modern age is abandoning the things they stood for.
Unironically and not with douchey intent, I think you've done the one the thing cameras are best for: archiving the things and moments that will soon cease.
Even if you upload the end result to Youtube you can list it privately and just hand out the link to those who are interested.
>t. guy who is interested

>>4433915
>>4434018
You must live in a smallish town. Most big cities are too rule bound and would never let a camera in their factory for any reason at all because the mba types that work in big cities would never like it even if it was in their own best interest to like it.

t. I love the rural redneck lifestyle and hate the anonymous cityshit

>>4433956
Watch some tutorials.
Waqas Qasi helped me a lot (inb4 spammer gets irate at the mention of his name). It takes time. You have to experiment.
I think the problem people make is that they want something quick.

>>4433915
I hope you post it here. I would like to watch it

>>4434060
> Waqas Quzi
Only the people on Re(tard)dit get angry when people mention his name.

>>4433741
>simple
>10 min doc
lol

>>4434060
>>4434110
Meh, the constant advertising for his shitty LUTs/Plugins is annoying, but don’t give a fuck about him one way or the other outside of that

>>4434207
>the constant advertising for his shitty LUTs/Plugins is annoying
I swear that's like 50% of all youtubers in this area (filmmaking and production)

>screw up the slow physical zoom on the most important shot
>choppy as shit
>meticulously go over each of the choppy bits and key a transformation zoom over them in post
>one eternity later, it's looking alright
life is pain. is there a simpler way, or is this the price to pay for being retarded?

>>4433528 (OP)
I fucking hate narrative forms. If I want to be told a bunch of shit I’ll read a book. If it’s visual then shut the fuck up and let me look at it if you can communicate something visually then great but otherwise if your video makes me sit and listen while it spews dialogue squeezed into a formulaic plot, then you can go fuck yourself because I ain’t watching that shit. Add that to theater sucking balls because you people are a bunch of filthy apes with bad parenting and yes tv/movies are dead. And good riddance, none of you are making Othello over here. Which is why red letter media might be right about all these films eating ass, but the underlying premise is that every film must be A formulaic three act structure with clearly defined character arcs, conflict, resolution and payoff. Holy fuck how boring. In fact fuck actors I don’t even wanna see actors in anything but porn.

>>4433870
Alternatively you can actually shoot on 16 mm yet and it looks convincingly as beautiful as 16 mm, Cameras and lenses are practically free compared to modern digital video gear, you can scan your film at whatever resolution you want to still retain the pretty color separation and grain after editing that you’re spending a ton of time and money trying to poorly simulate. And then your film will actually exist in the real world as a real object that has actual real value, which though not valued at present will become an issue soon.

>>4434773
shooting on something like super 16 would be a brutal reality to someone used to digital crutches that's out there shooting 10 to 1 on footage. i can already feel my wallet bleeding

>>4434773
>Alternatively you can actually shoot on 16 mm
You're either an idiot who's completely oblivious to the process of filmmaking, naively rich, or just a troll. Either way, lmao fuck off

>>4434773
lol

>>4434770
>decrying the death of cinema and visual arts
>RLM was right
What a weirdly contradictory and schizophrenic take. RLM is everything bad that you mentioned and more because it’s slack jawed surface level “critique” of all the slop you are complaining about. They’re worse than worthless. Just because jay and mike are deluded into thinking that they’re repressed auteurs doesn’t make it true lol

Thinking about getting a zoom f3 + matched clippy em272 stereo pair + all the mounting accessories to use for my compact travel kinorig, thoughts?
But when I added up all the costs it's looking a bit eye-watering, maybe the m3 isn't such a bad alternative after all, or the mke400...

>>4434795
>replying to an obvious retard who just wants attention
is this your first day on the internet?

>>4434573
Getting it right in camera is always easier then fixing it in post.

>>4434807
Yes, I’m twelve years old and what is this?

If I wish to record myself having sex, what is the ideal framerate?

>24 fps
>30 fps
>60 fps or above

>>4435135
that depends
what's the effect you're trying to achieve?

>>4435135
>24fps
for old school vintage porno feel
>30fps
for youtube-tier video
>60fps
this one

Lighting comes in number two as what's most important and I'd suggest the biggest softbox/diffuser you can convince the girl(man) to not notice. Number one is obviously not being ugly.

>>4435135
high framerates are best with dynamic motion. sick to 24, the extra frames won't do you any favors

>>4435135
> 60 fps or higher
If you want it to look like a soap opera or extreme sporting event. Girls gone wild at the xgames or some shitty daytime soap sex bit

> 24 fps
If you want it to like cinema like a high-brow artsy porn flick such as last tango in Paris

> 30 fps
If you want it to look like a ameture porno shot on somebody’s handycam. 80s vibe amateur porn.

>>4435135
60p.
Not even close. Anyone who says otherwise is a fucking idiot.

Been wanting to film a porn with me and my wife for awhile now with the BMCC6K. If it turns out good enough, I’m considering removing things like tattoos and blurring our faces for release.
Is AI good enough now to “unblur” or approximate a blurred face?

>>4435174
hell yeah bruddah

>>4435135
remember to pick a proper shutter speed to make it
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>>4435138
Is the artsy European porn actually shot in 24fps
?

>>4435138
>>4435139
>>4435140
>>4435148
>>4435277
What framerate is
>American
>JAV
and
>European

Shot in? My idea of European is the super “artsy” romantic shallow-focus porn

>>4435135
>>4435348
what kind of question is this
highest framerate possible is always best
your max framerate is determined by what framerate your camera can shoot at each resolution
but like the earlier anon said the absolutely critical thing is lighting, if you're going to place the camera more than 6 feet away you need at least one $300 light

>>4435348
European is actually 25 fps but it looks so close to 24 fps (the American standard) that you can’t tell the difference.

>>4435357
>The American standard
America and Japan both use NTSC which is 29.97 fps.
Some JAVs use 60fps but it creates more work because japs have to manually censor every frame of dick/balls/pussy

>>4435359
I didn’t think the japs censored anything, they give us stuff like hentai and lolicon and toddlercon so why the fuck would they need to sensor out dicks and balls and pussy.

>>4435277
>shutter speed
>not wide open shutter angle

>>4435362
>so why the fuck would they need to sensor out dicks and balls and pussy
Because despite CP only getting fully banned 30 years ago there's been a low for like 100 years that makes all porn illegal (it's legally only pseudo-porn if censored)

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/whats-new/2025-3.html#NVIDIA-Blackwell-Architecture-GPUs

Support for NVIDIA Blackwell Architecture GPUs
Premiere Pro now supports NVIDIA Blackwell GPU acceleration for 4:2:2 video, unlocking fast playback performance. 4:2:2 video delivers twice the color detail of 4:2:0 with only a modest increase in file size, making it ideal for precise color grading, cleaner chroma keying, and crisper text rendering. Editors using NVIDIA Blackwell GPUs can take full advantage of accelerated 4:2:2 playback.

>>4435411
I will never switch from AMD

>>4435135
The absolute madman actually did it.
I suggested asking this question on /p/ instead of /adv/ half jokingly

>>4435386
Is that why those japs are into cartoon tentacle rape porn because it technically isn’t porn because it’s a cartoon and not live action?

>>4435432
A madman would suggest using an Arri Alexa 35 and a set of master primes and master anamorphics. Asking which focal length would be best for the booty shot?

>>4435453
just hire a competent focus puller

>>4435454
Yeah but if you're hiring a puller, you need to hire a fluffer as well

>>4433876
Get a shotgun mic if you want to get selective about what you're picking up.

>>4435468
you're not gonna get smooth pulls like that anon

>>4434060
>Waqas Qasi
I used to like him but then he started shilling his dumb plugins in every video.
And he's just released a video comparing the sony fx2 to the lumix s1ii where he concludes that the fx2 has much better image quality. He did this by grading fx2 footage and then copying the exact same grade to s1ii footage and going "wow look how much worse it looks!" like he didn't just spend 20 minutes creating a grade specifically fine-tuned to one camera and not the other.
And then he turned comments off on the video so that no one could point out how stupid this test was.

>>4435561
So he’s now a Sony shill. Go fig. He used to be good. His older videos on how to get your shitty footage to look like Hollywood films used to be good. And now he’s pushing Sony cameras. This reminds me why I hate YouTube video influencers so much,

>>4435561
>stop insulting the s1ii, saar!
The S1II is a $3000 camera with the autofocus of a Z6... and if you want to say "real cinema is shot in manual focus", well, actual cinema bodies are made for that, with better everything than panasonic can manage. Also, panasonic FF color science is notoriously bad. Lots of very dull, cold, and tinted footage comes out of panasonic users similar to early gen snoy.

I can never fault someone for shitting on a company that makes such shitty products their sole gimmick is enabling literally every video codec as if to beg people to buy their junk, much like I can not fault people for shitting on sony (the inverse, their only gimmick is autofocus actually working)

>>4435591
The only thing panny offers is great ibis for run and gunners who don’t want to buy a gimbal.

>>4435601
Everyone does that now. The ibis+estab on the zf is the best unless you are purposefully being an idiot (protip: every youtuber stab test you have seen was botched to bias it in favor of whatever brand sends them the most free shit)

>>4435591
I don't give a shit how good the s1ii is or isn't.
It's a very apparent fact to literally everyone (other than sony shills) that the fx2 is a steaming pile of shit. To manufacture such a biased test like this just to try and convince people otherwise is a fucking disgrace
>tldr; fuck off sony shill

>>4433528 (OP)
>Zoom h1
I couldn’t find it. I read I suppose to buy the H1n version. But it seems to sold out everywhere.
Good alternative?

>>4435417
Both are out to fuck you over, AMD just has a smaller peen.

>>4435771
the h1 is the old tiny plastic one, i have a few hiding somewhere. it's ok for wired lavs. i think it's replaced by the zoom f1-lp

>>4435788
AMD jest werks
at least they aren't trying to get GROK and CHATGPT to fuck my ass yet

>>4435771
>>4435834
As the guy said, H1n was dicontinued. The replacement is supposedly Zoom H1essential.
Anyways, I was just trying to buy a microphone for recording. A bit confused about recorder (like Zoom H1) and a mic (Rode, Shure, etc.). Google failed me.

>>4435850
There was a Zoom H1 before H1n. The OP was written years ago.

>>4435139
>Number one is obviously not being ugly
...and number two is fuck like this hero. If either fails not even 8K ARRI footage with pro lights saves you.

>>4436155
I love how his Netflix bio documentary thing has a scene with him basically admitting to mouth raping an old lady neighbour and it was played as “haha that was a formative experience”. Omega chad

>>4436164
Obviously made up, along with the majority of stories in that film and 99% of all trash “documentaries”
Worst genre outside of sci-fi and faith

>>4435139
>>4436155
Who the fuck is looking at a guy's face when they're jorking their peanitus to porn? Just wear a mask, why would you want people seeing you fucking. Unless it's gay porn then I get it man.

>>4436212
I’m not gay. But I’d love to watch lesbians fucking each other. If they got good looking big busted supermodels to play the lesbians. I don’t need no girl that looks like a man in my porn; I don’t wanna watch a horror flick when I watch porn.

>>4436216
>shoot lesbian scene with insanely attractive girls who somehow both have athletic, toned stomachs, wide hips and large milkers
>spend 90% of the video focused on ultra closeups on their very generic vaginas that look like literally any other vagina
The people who make porn piss me off so much. I'm certain that they do this shit on purpose.

>>4436230
are you watching western porn or something?
only the Japanese still make good porn

>>4436231
>20 minutes of fondling nipples under bra and you can't even see them while she screeches like a banshee
wow anon it's excellent.

>>4435135
>60 fps
That shit needs to look hyper real or else it's pointless.

>>4436234
Yeah gonna have to agree with this anon, it’s mostly shit and censored ontop of it. I’ll never understand the banshee screaming either

>static tripod shot
>nothing is moving
>not even bugs or dust flying
>accidentally activate noise reduction node
>realize it could've just been a 30mb raw photo+grain node instead of a 500mb clip
sometimes it takes eating a pack of crayons to realize that maybe you got conceived with a weak sperm

200, 300 bitrate a waste of time?

How come no one posts little webm clips of stuff they vid here?

>>4436468
People who film good stuff:
>willingly doxing yourself
People who film shit:
>exposing others to your aimless crap

>>4436478
Just like little clips of stuff people are actually working on or even just misc clips they have no where else to share or behind the scenes
It's extremely easy to share stuff that is effectively not doxxable, and even then people share stuff here all the time without being doxxed

>>4436478
This

>>4436500
Yeah I’m just not willing to spend the time posting shit like that here and take the chance.
I have thought in the past, it’s funny- you make a post like on Reddit, and nobody gives a flying fuck (could arguably even help your career). Make a post like that here, and you’re potentially ruining your career and destroying your life.

>>4436518
That's just paranoia

>>4436519
I’m okay with being paranoid.
Let’s say I post some shit here. What can I expect to gain from it?
A few anons say “wow that’s great”- okay, a slight confidence boost but I personally don’t need it
A few anons say “wow that’s total fucking shit kys” I’m not bothered by criticism but again I don’t need it
A few anons track me down somehow and destroy all social media posts I currently have and potentially continue to do so for the foreseeable future- yeah I’m not interested

>>4436523
why post anything anywhere at all
why even respond

>>4436523
Would you rather be on a photography board where people actually share the images and video?
Or one where no one ever posts any actual images or footage?

>>4436525
Go to Reddit and see the “quality” of the footage that gets posted
Yeah we’re not losing anything here

>>4436524
Unironically this though. My work is for me and that’s satisfactory enough. But I also don’t record video like a fag sorry to barge in on your ladies thread here

>>4436518
Most people who are posting on here don’t have a career that anybody could ruin. All they do is film cats and videos to piss off liberals.

>>4436603
Then in that case I agree, post away

>>4436603
I shoot corporate and can't post anything real for that reason, but I've posted lens and filter tests on this board

>>4436656
I am secretly joey lawrence

>>4436656
I am WanderingDP. Why do you all hate me?

>>4436684
>>4436685
Also, I actually started in audio first, which is equally useless for posting here because there's nothing but questions about mouting a shitty shotgun to your camera

posted again from the last thread

How can I get rid of my fatfuck heavy breathing when I film? Other than losing weight what can I do regarding mics or settings on the camera to get rid of my heavy ass breathing? I have a Lumix S5IIx

Obvious answer is lose weight/have better cardio but I am working on that now. In the meantime should I just film without sound?

>>4436937
>average panasissy
cardioid mic

>>4436947
thanks

>>4436603
Most people here don't actually film anything apparently

>>4436656
You don't do any video stuff for fun? Work only? Sad

>>4436953
That's how it works when you have children

>>4436937
Stand further away from your camera/microphone?
Wear a facemask?

>>4436979
>when you have children
Jesus, I’m sorry

>>4436979
I understand, it must be a lot of work to go down to your basement and feed your child sex slaves.

>>4436979
Sucks to be you

>>4437059
Don't be silly, Prime delivers and it's easy to throw slop in the trough

>>4436937
Position the mic above you and away from your mouth. Point it towards your chest.

>>4436937
I'm in very good shape but the RODE VMP+ on S5iix still picks up the slightest sound I make behind the camera. I have to breathe slowly through an open mouth, not swallow, and generally not act like an ape. When possible I take a few steps back from the camera.

>>4436937
I'm almost 300 pounds and my breathing is completely silent
just don't be a mouthbreathing subtard

>>4437259
Don't have one, but the spec says supercardioid, there is still a rear lobe unlike a cardioid pattern, all you can really do is lower the gain or stand further from the camera / put the camera on a rod

>>4437259
what sort of things are you filming?

>>4437534
The datasheet has the exact measurement. It's even more pronounced relative to the front pickup.

>>4437534
I actually don't mind and find it rather good to get more ambiance instead of a narrow shotgun field, it's a better all-arounder imo than a pure shotgun, but still not as wide as an omni mic, best of both worlds. I just take care to be quiet.

>>4437908
The best of both worlds is wide cardioid. Omni catches way too much of what is happening outside of the frame. Shotguns are only ever useful if you're shooting people talking and need a clearer sound, otherwise they sound awful for ambiance.

>>4436381
For inter-frame compression, largely yes. For intra-frame you're most likely reaching those bitrates either way if you're shooting 50 or 60fps.

I just bought a Pentax KF, because it has a flippy screen and PDAF in live view mode, to do video.
How fucked am I?
If I get good audio and lighting, am I still solid?

>>4438149
yeah you did kinda fuck up, shoulda got a panasonic micro four thirds

>>4438170
but I already had the Pentax lenses. A couple years ago I got the whole suite of FA Limited and DA Limited primes, a 28-105, 18-135, DA* 16-50, DA* 11-18, all for $200 bucks at an estate sale. They've been sitting around and I've been using a Panasonic but Panasonic started pissing me off, so I got the KF as a hiking camera and video. Plan on eventually getting a Blackmagic something-something and adapting K lenses to EF if I actually do start making video.

I was hoping with good lighting and audio, I can turn out some pleasing Youtube videos, don't expect pro-tier results. And once I build up lighting/audio, and I am actually making pleasing video instead of just asperger tier BS, I could justify buying a nice blackmagic camera.

Or am I totally fucking stupid?

>>4438170
>hehe, they won't notice

>>4438170
>MFT
lord almighty do mft troglodytes really?? why spread your misery

Matte boxes
A necessary pain in the ass. Fuck me, configuring these things in a rig system has to be easier. Do you guys with experience on them, do you trust clamp them on a lens?

>>4438419
>A necessary pain in the ass
They aren't necessary?
When you're in controlled lighting environments, they're redundant. When you're not they're helpful but a lot of lenses have hoods anyway that do the same thing and are much smaller.
Matte boxes most common use is just for convincing clients that you're a professional and impressing actors on set.

>>4438419
i just use smallrig, it jest werks

>>4438428
nah the main use is so you can slap modifiers on top easily
you can just put gels or film cut in rectangular on top of it

>>4438428
The main use for the matte box is to slap on on your shitty dslr or mirrorless camera so your clients will think you are using a cinema camera; then you can charge them a higher day rate. They are also used to hold nd filters so you don’t need to get a filter set for each lens size you own. You get get one for your matte box.

>>4438448
>think you are using a cinema camera
What kind of boomer thinks there's a noticeable difference between an FX2 and a cinema camera?
>buh muh medium size sensor

>>4438450
When kitted out with a cage, rails, vct mount, fx30/fx3/fx2 does become heavier, longer, bigger. With all the accesories it has the presence of a camcorder rather than a hybrid.

>>4438450
>What kind of boomer thinks there's a noticeable difference between [insert sub 5k camera]
All of them. Clients see behind the scenes pics of large rigs and hear how red is amazing from their super smart friends who clearly know a lot about the industry and then get underwhelmed when you show up with a small dslr and think you look like an amateur.
But show up with a red komodo, a v-mount battery, cage and matte box and suddenly you're clearly super professional and worth thousands a day regardless of whether or not you actually produce a better video.
Also the fx2 is absolute trash and notably worse than the average hybrid camera that costs over 1500 bucks.

>>4438552
If you show up with a gh5 or a bmpcc 4k kitted out with a matte box and v mount battery and follow focus unit and a cage and rails and external monitor and wireless stuff on it—most clients couldn’t tell the difference between that and a red.

>>4438555
True. But some will. Relatively few. But some. And those that do will be willing to pay more for a red.
(Of course, you can almost definitely trick them but just putting a red sticker on your camera)

>>4438555
yes, thats the point he's making.

>>4438557
> you could trick them by putting a red or an arri sticker on your potato camera

That’s my point, exactly, most people who say they want a red or an arri don’t even know what a red or an arri really is. They’re paying you for how your gear looks not what your gear actually is.

>to shoot any kind of decent looking video you need at least 2 cameras of the same make and model with the same lens
making videos is only for rich people i'm done

>>4439493
>you need at least 2 cameras
No.

>>4439630
How am I supposed to do anything without a b cam bro

>>4439493
If you get coverage and blocking don’t right, you can get away with using one camera. 2 or more cameras (some filmmakers use 10) with the same lens are for people who don’t plan their shoots and don’t do blocking before the shoot to get the coverage they need.

>travel for work to random places in the USA
>decide I'll start filming talking head/docu style and feature some stuff related to my yt niche with the spare time I have during work travel
>buy a travel tripod since none of mine even fit in my large luggage, some relevant niche stuff, even concealer for the dark circles under my eyes, and practiced using it, been planning for months
>flew to a desertey area and it's fucking raining all week during summertime
thanks for reading my blog

>>4439643
And here I am using mascara to make fake eye bags before I go on camera

>>4439689
just don't sleep lol

>>4439493
>>4439631
>a whole new generation of retards with zero patience who refuse to spend time trying to master their craft

Is it alright to have 60fps video on a 30fps timeline? I'm wondering how the dropped frame thing will look (if it happens at all) or if it being a even division will mean that isn't an issue.

>>4440668
It's 2025, you should be using AI to generate inter-frames to up-frame all your videos to 200fps
Then you can sell them for more money because 200fps

>>4440668
If you're going to drop the end result to 30fps the software is (normally) smart enough to just drop every other frame. The problem is, if you shoot at 180* shutter (which you should be), 1/125th shutter speed is going to look a bit choppy and "sharper" at 30fps due to the lack of motion blur. If you shoot at 1/60th 60fps and export at 30fps it should be the exact same as shooting in 30fps 1/60th.

You're basically encroaching on how sports broadcasters deliver 25/30fps footage but are able to produce slow-motion clips on demand; they're normally shooting at like 1/200th/1/250th shutter speed.

>>4440668
jaggedness is more a function of shutter angle and light on target imo. everything looks sharper when you nuke it

>>4433528 (OP)
>look for jobs in video production
>"we are looking for an experienced content creator"
>look for jobs in film
>crickets
thinking of giving up and going back to computer science. film and video is dead around here. at least i can still make my own stuff.

So I have been offered a job to be 2nd assistant director. But I have no experience on set and being a 4chan poster I am a NEET autist. I am not a total retard though. I am a good artist when I am not suicidal. I have made some good work.

What should I do bros? Should I accept it? Is this job difficult? I live in a turd world shithole so I really really need the money and work but at the same time I am scared that I'll fuck up big time, lose spaghetti and run back home to rot. At the same time I am afraid that this might be the last opportunity to "make it"...

What I should do? Please help. Are set difficult?

>>4441154
if you don't live in a film hub all you can do is volunteer on other people's indie projects to network and then pa slave on paid projects. connections are the only thing that really matters, sucks for gen z

>>4441165

Do you want the job?
Do you think it'll be fun?

If yes to either or both I say fuckkit why not.
Just act like you know what you ae doing, and just don't worry about shit

Sets are chaos but everyone is doing their job
do what you are supissed to do and don't walk into anything
You'll do fine

I'll be rooting for you

>>4441154
>content creator
What's that entail? Editing boring insta videos with a million cuts?

>>4441165
>I really really need the money and work
Then do it

>but at the same time I am scared that I'll fuck up big time, lose spaghetti and run back home to rot
Oh no!!! Who gives a fuck if this even happens? Laugh it off and it’ll still be a good story to tell.

>>4441165
>What should I do bros? Should I accept it?
Yeah.
If suck at it, you can either learn from your mistakes or try something else. If you're good at it, they'll call you back for more gigs and maybe promote you to 1st AD

Instead of this “fake it til you make it” garbage bullshit, how about just sincerity and honesty?
If someone was like “I’ve never done this before, its my first time, but I genuinely want to learn and will work extremely hard for you” I’d be way more willing to work with them and forgive potential mistakes. If someone lied to me and then fucked up, I’d never work with them again.

>>4441253
content creator is code for porn director

>>4441292
I hired a pa who said something very similar to that a couple of years ago. She was great. I'm actually annoyed that I won't be able to use her again in the near future because she's busy at filmschool now.
But I'm an indie director with no funding and I earned my stripes acting as a one-man band. A lot of productions are former filmschool kids who are imitating hollywood stupidity and won't settle for anything less than "perfect" (technical perfection, artistically devoid). They don't have the time or patience to teach and will shout at each other and pass the buck the second something goes wrong.

>>4441317
Hopefully film school doesn’t ruin her and turn her from a freethinking artist into another Hollywood zombie!

>>4441317
>former filmschool kids who are imitating hollywood stupidity and won't settle for anything less than "perfect" (technical perfection, artistically devoid)
This is what I’ve been afraid of encountering. Do they turn down work on smaller budgets/crewsize that literally cannot achieve Hollywood standards?

>>4441317
>>4441380
>when you're a real film maker making true cinema that nobody appreciates

>>4441179
>>4441279
>>4441283
>>4441292
Thank you for replying. Yeah I am going to refuse this. I'll certainly fuck up. I am too mentally ill for the job.

>>4441390
I'd rather be Neil Breen than any of the soulless "indie" directors who can only make stuff if their professors' friends will give them five million in funding for a story about sexism/homosexuality/racism (told from a white guilt perspective obviously).
>>4441380
Pretty sure they'll take any job if you pay them what they think they're worth. They'll just be rude on set and laugh to themselves every time you don't do things the way they were taught.
>Oh wow, you're not setting up a bounce light to a complete a 3 point lighting system? That's an... "interesting" choice I guess.
>When I was working on a little film called Everything, Everywhere All at Once, we literally threw at peanuts at a pa who asked what apple boxes for haha but every set is different!

>>4441390
neil breen makes what he wants and actually finishes projects. i can't be mad at that.

>>4441603
I guess the best way to combat this would be to get ahead of it during hiring phase and take some time to really explain the production to them. “This is a micro-budget production” “most days will have a smaller production crew than you may have normally experienced” “we will be doing setups that might be a bit experimental and out of the norm to what you’re used to, these are covered in our storyboards and shotlists for you to review”
“If any of this sounds uncomfortable for you, I completely understand and look forward to working with you on a different project that fits your style better”
There’s gotta be people out there that want to work on shit that isn’t garbage Netflix sci-fi horror.

>>4441679
I say pretty similar stuff like this to actors when I'm vetting them.
The difference is that proper PAs and shit are a lot more expensive than actors. You can get actors for well under 100/day because there are so many and they often want to "work" as an actor. If they're being paid to act then they're closer to their endgoal of supporting themselves only through acting. There are a lot of good actors in that space.
With crew and shit, it's not the same. If you're paying less 150/day you probably won't get any applicants altogether and the ones you do will mostly be hustlers trying to scam you. There are "standard" rates for crew jobs. It's more efficient to hire people with barely any film experience and then teach them. But you've got to find them which can be hard.

But yeah, if you can afford their rates, the crew will help you out. That doesn't mean they won't be condescending on set. They aren't people pleasers by and large. They're tradespeople working in film for whatever dumb reason. So they have a similar attitude. They know their shit (hopefully). They don't care about the rest.
People that are passionate about films/filmmaking don't work below the line (ignoring runners etc on larger sets). Or if they do, they quickly lose their passion. For what it's worth, they're dicks on larger sets too. But there's more money and connections involved so they're smart enough to not burn bridges (most of the time)

What you really want, if you can afford it, is to build a personal crew of friends who will help you out on all your shit. But that's really hard. I don't quite know how people like William Baker on youtube manage it because I can't see his youtube channel making enough money to fund teams like that. But it's doable.

>>4441690
>You can get actors for well under 100/day because there are so many and they often want to "work" as an actor
Really? I’ll be damned, figured they would still be the most expensive.

>>4441690
>build a personal crew of friends who will help you out on all your shit
I had this, then I moved, and now I’m fucked.

>>4440704
Based, thank you. The final result will be 30fps footage, but potentially with some slow-mo footage on b-roll. In that circumstance I wonder about it being a 60fps timeline instead despite the majority of footage being 30fps and the 60fps being used only for slowing (though I'm seconding guessing this even as I write it).

>>4440726
Some footage will use screen recordings from a computer (using a browser, programs, etc) that is 60fps and cut down to 30fps, and in that circumstance I really don't know how something like shutter angle would apply. Would that footage still get choppy in moderate motion?

>>4441698
You need to be a better director than the greatest directors in history to make a crew full of 100/day actors perform reasonably well
at that level you're basically hiring trained monkeys that you have to order in every minute detail to even approximate human reality

>>4441784
Why? Just use poor actors and go for that b movie or campy movie vibe and it’ll be all good. Unless you are doing a serious drama you don’t need a good and expensive actor. Just makes cheesy sci-fi stuff and any actor will do.

>>4441603
>3 point lighting system
I thought these were out of style?

>>4441792
at that point just make porn
at least you have a chance to profit

>>4441173
i knew this from the get go but honestly i'm keen to work on indie stuff more than paid productions. they're few and far between and pay less than working a bar. at least this way i get to make stuff with friends and make stuff i want to.

>>4441253
pretty much. it can vary job to job but all of it entails making shortform portrait garbage. some business want "user generated content" which is talking to your camera promoting some bullshit. others want "trend" videos like "a day in the life of x". i'd rather kill myself in fact i might.

>>4441784
>You need to be a better director than the greatest directors in history to make a crew full of 100/day actors perform reasonably well
This is completely untrue and you're either talentless, an idiot or surrounded by idiots to say this.
There are so many great actors who have yet to get their big break who will work for this price range. The market is oversaturated, it's impossible for every good actor to have a half decent career. Additionally, the most important thing isn't even how good their acting is but how well they're cast. Almost every shit actor has one or two roles they'll nail. The skill is finding that actor for whatever role you need cast.

>>4441942
So, you are saying something like, if you need to play an autist in your film and you cast a bad actor who is an autist you might get the performance you need out of him even if he is a crappy actor.

>>4441967
Sort of...
If we use a less stupid example, if you need a neurotic asian storekeeper for a scene, then hiring an asian guy who's transitioned from storekeeping to acting will probably fit perfectly. He already understands storekeeping, you already buy him as a storekeeper. The director just needs to keep his stiffness in check and actually direct him.
But you don't need to cast someone with 1:1 experience. If you need a drug-taking punk, you don't need to find someone who actually has that past. You just find someone who's relatively young and "hard-looking" who can bring the right energy. There are a lot of people who fit that bill but have very little range and wouldn't be able to play a wealthy tech manager for example. But they'd still be great playing the druggy.
Like I said, it's all about putting time and effort in the casting process. You do it right, you can find a perfect actor for pretty much every role provided you understand that they'll be limited in how much variance they can provide and how much actual directing they'll need to not ham the scene up.

>>4441979
So if you want a washed out or burnt out basketball player in a scene it’s best to find a basketball player or other sports person or jock who’s getting intro acting rather then teaching an actor how to act like a basketball player. Less work to get more accuracy. I kind of get it.

>>4442038
In simplified terms, yes.
It's not as straightforward as that in practicality. If you cast for that role and take 20 self-tapes/auditions from unknown actors with little experience, you'll likely find at least 3 people who can competently portray the role in the way you want it done (not necessarily perfect, but competent).
But you'll have to direct them properly, and they won't be good for any random role you need filling. It's more likely that the ones you find will have a background in sports. But it could be that they were sporty when they were like 12 and grew out of it because it was too much pressure. Or it could be that they're a gym rat who watches a lot of football on tv but has never taken sports seriously themselves. Or it could be that they've never been massively into sports aside from kicking a ball around with their friends but they just happen to be able to channel some other experience into that exact mindset.

To give an example, I cast a sexually-charged female killer a few years back. Think Elizabeth Hurley in Bedazzled - that sort of thing. I got a pretty good self tape back from an actress and asked how she got into that mindset and prepared. She told me she did a bunch of research on sociopathy and watched films about killers etc She took it really seriously.
I then got an absolutely fantastic self tape from another actress afterwards. I asked her the same question. She said she didn't really. She just relaxed and basically spent 5 minutes thinking about the script before recording and then just sent off her first attempt at it to me.
(And the other thing to bear in mind is that a good self tape needs context. You need to make sure it's not a fluke. I've had at least one case where I got a perfect self tape but quickly realised when talking to the actor that they were only coincidentally in the right frame of mind due to personal reasons. I asked for a 2nd tape and it was terrible)

>>4441603
I'd rather be Neil Breen than any of the soulless "indie" directors who can only make stuff if their professors' friends will give them five million in funding for a story about sexism/homosexuality/racism (told from a white guilt perspective obviously).

I'd rather be Neil Breen than not make movies. I'm fully beyond shame at this point. I don't care. It's getting made. Everyone will watch and judge my movies and there will be hate and I'm okay with that.

Donate ten bucks to my cause and you can read a page of my script and wonder over the rest.

https://darkspellcaster2.gumroad.com/l/rhpfvb?_gl=1*gg7786*_ga*MTc4ODAyMjU3OC4xNzUwODY0Mzc1*_ga_6LJN6D94N6*czE3NTE0NzA3MzYkbzQkZzEkdDE3NTE0NzE2MjIkajE5JGwwJGgw

>>4442679
Forgot to greentext

>I'd rather be Neil Breen than any of the soulless "indie" directors who can only make stuff if their professors' friends will give them five million in funding for a story about sexism/homosexuality/racism (told from a white guilt perspective obviously).

Yeah.

>>4442679
Based

Why is it that people will accept low video quality but won't accept poor audio quality?

>>4442766
That’s just a meme to sell you audio gear. What people really want is a good story? They’ll forgive poor audio and poor video if the story they’re watching is compelling enough. Focus on making an awesome story, and worry about gear later.

>>4442766
because the audience needs to hear what the fuck your talent is saying nolan

>>4442789
the frustrating thing is that audiences give Nolan a pass just because the soundtrack is good

>>4442692
Promotional website is up.
https://www.evilwizardsmovie.com/

Why the fuck do these old DPs and light technicians didn't transferred their knowledge to younger generations?

This shit looks fucking insane. Modern films look like ass.

Now even few of the remaining credible boomers are dying and you're stuck with gimble and vertical frame zoomer monkeys.

>>4443880
The boomers probably studied fine art before finding their way into film rather than looking at films/youtube and then making movies.

>>4443880
Jesus this conversation keeps coming up, but rarely on /vid/ and I assumed it was because people who had actually used a camera before understood why the topic is so retarded.
There are so many reasons it's not worth covering them all. But the biggest reason comes down to contemporary filmmaking teams not wanting to make films that look like that.
The second biggest reason (or the reason why producers especially aren't keen on that aesthetic) is that audiences don't like it. When you're terminally online, it's easy to get swept up in whatever the online retard conversation is. For a few years, so-called "cinephiles" have been jerking off about the classic "film look". But you know who hasn't? Actual movie-goers. The normie public who don't sit in internet chatrooms talking about The Guns of Navarone.
Films from the 60s, for example, look dated. All of this shit is lead by money. Kids don't find something like Barry Lyndon as aesthetic as Ridley's Napoleon for example. Audiences prefer colour-coded scenes. They prefer shallow depth of field. They prefer natural-looking soft lighting (with obvious exceptions). To them, it looks more "cinematic".
"Cinephiles" never want to hear this. But it's true. Multiple tests confirm it.

If you want to recreate a look like that, it's not particularly difficult. But people that attain the skill/money to do so find that with the control over the image you have you can make something that they find more interesting, and the money-men will want something that looks more modern.

>>4443927
it's the same posters every time

>>4443927
it's not only the "modern" film look (which is WORSE), it's how information is conveyed in the frame (modern DOPs lack basic composition skills)

>>4443888
That and most of the early cinematographers started out as photographers. That’s why every image looks beautiful like a photograph. They didn’t intentionally dirty up the image back then.

>>4444134
>They didn’t intentionally dirty up the image back then
Elaborate on what you mean by this, because you’re about to get your ass handed to you

>>4443927
DOP cope

Stop making flate soulless shite and learn to compose my nigga. Imagine giving a fuck what some plebs in the audience want. Director should only give a fuck about what he cares about. Art house directors have lost the confidence. This reply is a great example. A filmmaker on 4chan is defending "muh public demand, ffs.

>>4444134
>most of the early cinematographers started out as photographers.
Fucking trvke
Bodied that fucking modern DOP

>>4444196
>A filmmaker on 4chan is defending "muh public demand, ffs.
You're literally out here implying that artists should cater to the incredibly small minority of retards who have zero understanding of the process and just want to see the films from yesteryear again.
Honestly, shut the fuck up. You want to do it? No one's stopping you (except for you)

>>4444224
What do audience want these? Can't you have great composition in whatever gritty shit they want? Or handheld slop is the only accepted form of camera?

>>4444224
>>4444247
Why modern DOPs pussy out from using tungsten lights?

>>4444181
Underexposed image so fucking dark you can’t see what’s going on. For some reason modern film makers love doing that.

>>4444247
>Can't you have great composition in whatever gritty shit they want?
Sicario has fantastic composition, for example. As does 1917, Conclave and Bardo off the top of my head. I didn't even love Conclave but it looked nice. I don't know if you're actually dumb enough to think that no contemporary films have good composition but if you are then there's not much to say other than grow up and watch more films.

>>4444341
I loved the look of no country for old men. I just hate the underexposed films like the new batman where you can’t see what’s going on. I loved the way joker looked.

>>4444344
pulled down is the meta, i literally did that on a edit to joke with a friend and he said it looked like a streaming show lol

>>4444341
none of this shit looks as good as this >>4443880


>>4444344
>I loved the look of no country for old men.
HECKINRINO THE WARM LOOKRINO
compare that shit with for example Cremator and see how it falls apart.
>I loved the way joker looked.
Kek

>>4443880
Laziness thanks to "fix it in post", which is arguably also an issue in photography now too. It's only going to get worse with AI.

>>4444131
Sometimes I wonder if I should shoot in 4:3 and crop to 16:9 in post, just for the challenge and doing it the classic way. It would mean being stuck with 1080p since 4K would be pre-crop but it still feels like it would be fun.

>>4444538
Don't. 4:3 is a superior aspect ratio. 16:9 is utter and total trash. it's a damn shame that trash like 16:9 became the """standard"""

>>4444444

>>4444542
contrarianism has truly gone too far

>>4444538
If you want to shoot wide just get an anamorphic lens, they aren't that expensive.

>>4444249
They hate healthy-looking human skin.

is there a resource of stock video and audio strictly for editing practice?

>>4444543
Damn, what a depressing get

>>4444818
Well at least they restored it, they had deleted the whole thread when I checked yesterday.

>>4444249
LEDs are quicker to take down because of how cool they run and draw less electricity, so chances are you can plug them into any outlet without the need of a generator.

Pretty much it all comes down to convenience of use.

>>4444821
>Pretty much it all comes down to convenience of use.
this is the shit that i am talking about. convenience over beauty that's why they can't compete with masters

>>4444825
True, but back then they were also limited in how they can set up their equipment.
IMO, if they could do what Claudio Miranda did with Top Gun Maverick and that F1 movie, they definitely would, but as they couldn't they had to make the very best of their limitations.

>>4444831
>this angers the pseud

>>4444825
are you out there taking the mains down with your tungstens on your location interior shoot?

>>4444821
>>4444825
>>4444844

Tungstens also get as hot as the surface of the sun. Unless you want your talent to sweat bullets you need to be careful when using tungstens. They do look as awesome as fuck and they make your talent look beautiful if you can make it so your talent doesn’t sweat like a stuck pig.

>will be using 30fps for majority of video (talking head, general shots, panning etc)
>considering 60fps for b-roll or occasional walking, may slow down some shots
What should the timeline framerate be? 30 or 60? I've been wondering about 30 and just letting frame drop happen on the 60 footage that is played at normal speed

>>4444897
30

I haven't had to come here in months with my inane beginner questions. ChatGPT answers (way better than any of you could btw) all of my bullshit questions plus I can also guide it to insult me after every other question and evade answers for a while for the true /vid/ experience. In that regard, you're obsolete. But this thread is good for general conversation. Meanwhile some fuckers *still* treat people on forums/chatrooms/groups/boards as their personal search engine.

>>4445341
If you aren’t asking chatGPT for advice on how to do a modern remake of the Mr. Hands video or do a modern remake of “birth of a nation” you’re doing it wrong.

>>4445341
>Meanwhile some fuckers *still* treat people on forums/chatrooms/groups/boards as their personal search engine
At least they're interacting with humans.

>>4444897
shoot your normal 30 and a reasonable amount of 60 on the b-roll except for establishing shots and such. if you don't know what to do, just follow the bbc news style wide-medium-close system to get coverage until you figure out what you want, look it up

>>4445341
Your chatbot only works because you're a beginner who doesn't ask deep questions. Ask advanced questions, and it'll start to hallucinate. /p/ and /vid/ have occasionally provided information that have brought my skills to another level, so don't knock this place.

>>4445341
chatgpt is trash i use grok

>magic mask is still broken for me on resolve
sacre bleu

>>4445458
>magic mask
never used it, is it worth it?

>>4445365
If anything there should be an faqbot that auto responds to beginner questions using info from effortposts

>>4445489
When it used to work for me, yeah.
Definitely not perfect but can save hours in rotoscoping time. You gotta figure out what you want to use it for though. Lazy people use it as a shitty greenscreen effect. Its real value is in colour grading. It also helps with vfx.

>>4445543
You need a powerful gpu to use it.

>>4445543
i've had studio forever and never use any of the added features lol

>>4445694
You might use some of the pro features such as 10bit or higher codecs or delivering in 4k dci or higher or noise reduction or some of the effects such as film grain or sharpening without even knowing it?

>>4445688
I have a 30-something. Like I said, it used to work. I think it was 19 that broke it.
And I can still use fusion. Ah well. It is what it is.

>>4445738
mostly the color management stuff for matching cameras and dealing with multiple codecs, when i started there was a lot of reliance on external plug ins. i do think davinci has improved in making it less necessary for 3rd party widgets

do you ever play with the shutter speed/shutter angle to achieve different dramatic effects? or do you reject anything that goes beyond the traditional C I N E M A T I C motion blur? pic related

>>4445865
shutter speed always at 1/8000 for 24fps
like god intended

>>4445814
>>4445688
I've used magic mask with resolve 20 and 980ti, that's an ancient gpu.

But a question: there's a first lightning storm of the year rolling in later tonight (going to be dark I guess), so I was wondering what kind of shutter speed/framerate should I be using. Going to try realtime and 50% or 25% slowmo perhaps, but that slowmo might be useless trying to capture something as fast as lightning. Youtube/google search is beyond useless (I don't know what the hell has happened to those 2). I will try different settings, but would like a solid starting point to not miss a good shot messing around too much, because god knows how brief it's going to be and when I'll get another chance.

>>4445910
24/120fps in slow mo, 1/8000 shutter speed
hope you have a 1.2 aperature

>>4445865
I always play with settings. I don’t want my stuff to look like everybody else’s stuff. I got a set of macro lenses for extream closeup shots and I got a set of lenses that are really pl mount microscopes for an insane closeup because that will be my stick—macro shots of stuff in all movies I make because of Auteur Theory, I need my own thang and nobody else is doing this yet.

What did WonderingDP mean when, in his latest video, said he was worried if the Gaffer didn't have a better idea than him? Is the Gaffer had a better idea, he wouldn't be the Gaffer, he's be the DP.

>>4446072
r u serious

>>4446072
I had to stop even hatewatching his videos, they were driving me to a boiling rage everytime I watched one.

What fps should I use for being pretty close to VHS? 60fps is close but not quite, and 30 isn't it at all, so should I go for 50 maybe?

>>4446223
VHS is NTSC
24fps

>>4446228
It looks a lot more fluid than 24fps to me

>>4446223
https://chatgpt.com/share/68710bd2-3444-8009-b8a5-71ab130f6666

>>4445359
>Meanwhile some fuckers *still* treat people on forums/chatrooms/groups/boards as their personal search engine

>>4446300
You could always use the analog damage ofx plugin in resolve to simulate the look of vhs. I don’t know if you need to use the paid version of resolve to use it. I’ve always used the paid version since it came free with my camera.

I had an ai script a scene for me. How good is this scene?

FADE IN:

INT. DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS TENT – DAY
Dusty sunlight. A Malnourished Child (8) lies on a table. The robotic arms hover, precise.

ROBOT (CALM FEMALE VOICE)
"Anastomosis complete."
The robot sutures her intestines flawlessly. A LOCAL DOCTOR watches, relieved.

LOCAL DOCTOR
(whispers)
Thank God for this.

MATCH CUT TO:

INT. BARN – NIGHT
The same robot, blood-slick. The Chomo convulses as the robot injects him.

ROBOT
"Administering epinephrine."
Trucker wipes sweat, adjusts a clamp.

TRUCKER
Gotta keep you present.

BACK TO: TENT – DAY
The robot seals a bleeding vessel in the girl. She breathes easier.

ROBOT
"Hemostasis achieved."

MATCH CUT TO:

BARN – NIGHT
The same tool burns shut a wound on the chomo’s arm — not to heal, but to prevent bleed-out.

CHOMO
(gargling scream)
Please—

TENT – DAY
The robot places a stent in the girl’s artery. The Local Doctor smiles.

LOCAL DOCTOR
She’s gonna make it.

MATCH CUT TO:

BARN – NIGHT
The robot force-feeds the chomo painkillers to keep him conscious.

TRUCKER
Gotta keep you thankful.

EXT. TENT – SUNSET
The girl is carried out, wrapped in a blanket. Her Mother collapses in tears.

ROBOT (V.O.)
"Procedure complete. Patient stable."

MATCH CUT TO:

INT. BARN – DAWN
The Chomo is a twitching ruin. The robot retracts, dripping. Same voice.

ROBOT (V.O.)
"Procedure complete. Patient stable."

The Trucker pats the machine.

TRUCKER
Attagirl.

FADE OUT.

>>4446408

Here is another scene I had the ai do for me. I liek ai.

INT. ABANDONED BARN – NIGHT
The air is thick with blood, sweat, and antiseptic. The Chomo (40s, fear-stricken) hangs naked from rusted chains, blood pooling below. A Meat Hook is buried deep in his rectum, suspending him.

The Surgical Robot stands silent, arms retracted. The Trucker (50s, rough) circles, a cattle prod in hand.

TRUCKER
(casual)
In nature, predators get torn apart alive. No last meals, no blindfolds. Just teeth.

He tilts the chomo’s chin, the man’s face a mess of tears and snot.

CHOMO
(gargling)
P-please… I’ll confess…

The Trucker jams the prod into his ribs. A crackle. The man screams as the hook shifts inside him.

TRUCKER
(grinning)
Confession’s for folks who regret. You? Just sorry you got caught.

He signals the robot. A mechanical arm extends an IV with adrenaline and clotting agents. The needle pierces the jugular.

ROBOT
(calm)
Administering stimulants. Vital signs stabilized.

The chomo’s pupils dilate, pain surging anew.

TRUCKER
Good girl. Now—

He grabs a bucket of fire ants in honey-gasoline slurry and holds it under him.

TRUCKER
Let’s see how long they take to climb.

He upends the bucket. Ants pour onto the hook, swarming toward the wound. The man wails, echoing through the barn.

SMASH CUT TO:

EXT. BARN – DAWN
The Trucker exits, wiping his hands. The robot follows, bloodstained arms. A faint whimper lingers inside.

ROBOT
Procedure complete. Patient stable.

The Trucker spits, lights a cigarette. His eyes are dead as the sunrise.

TRUCKER
Amen.

>>4446415
I just had an ai help me write a scene where hero trucker tortures the code for a bitcoin wallet out of a chomo so he can buy the awesome torture (I mean medical) robot. Enjoy!

FADE IN:

EXT. LONELY HIGHWAY – NIGHT
A honey truck rumbles through fog. In the bed, a CHOMO (40s) whimpers, covered in welts, limbs chained.

INT. BARN – NIGHT
The trucker drags the chomo inside, dumps him on a table. The man’s skin is swollen with ant bites.

CHOMO
(gurgling)
P-please… I paid you...

TRUCKER
(wiping robot’s arm)
Let’s see what this thing can do.

He straps the man down, taps the robot’s touchscreen. It hums to life, arms unfolding like a mechanical spider.

ROBOT (V.O.)
Select procedure: __.

The trucker scrolls past options, types:

TRUCKER
“Keep alive.”

ROBOT (V.O.)
Error. Specify parameters.

The trucker grins, inputs:

TRUCKER
“Pain tolerance test. Indefinite.”

The robot’s arms jerk forward, clamps the wrists. A needle plunges into the neck—adrenaline.

CHOMO
(screaming)
NO—

CLOSE-UP: ROBOT’S SCREEN
Vitals spike. The robot adjusts:

“BP elevated. Administering beta-blockers.”

The trucker watches, fascinated, as the robot stabilizes him just enough to feel everything.

THE FIRST CUT
A scalpel arm precisely skin the forearm.

CHOMO
(screaming)
GOD, STOP—

TRUCKER
(leaning in)
Funny—this model’s made for kids. Real gentle.

The robot pauses, detects distress, injects sedative.

TRUCKER
(overriding)
Stay awake.

The chomo sobs as the robot extends a cauterizer—

SMASH CUT TO:

EXT. BARN – DAWN
The trucker steps outside, lights a cigarette. The robot’s screen flickers:

“Procedure complete. Patient stable.”

TRUCKER
(smirking)
Worth every bitcoin.

FADE OUT.

>>4446234
that can be a function of the shutter

>>4446533
Faster or slower being a good idea maybe? I've found that when using 24fps, things look choppy/stutter if I used 1/50 but start to look nice and smooth if I move down to 1/40 (which isn't the 180 degree rule, but I like how it looks more, so I'm tempted to go with it permanently).

>>4433528 (OP)
I started making my own films, I don’t need to keep watching this endless sea of regurgitated bullshit these fucking studios make. Watch American tv/movies for 20 years (realistically more like 10 at this point) and you’ve seen everything they’ll ever make, then you get into historic films & holy fuck French films & then vintage adult cinema and art films, and then you’ve seen it all and jusst make your own.

>>4446304
Just shoot it on vhs. Fucktards that try simulating shitty vhs looks digitally are even worse than fucktards trying to simulate 16mm film digitally. Everyone knows, watching digital video looks cheap, but is cheap, but you fuckwads need to realize you’re insisting on using the wrong tools and it’s apparent bc you’re getting garbage results that convince no one of anything but that you cheaped out and probably shot 100:1 and spent all your time in Resolve free trying to bridge something watchable out of it, bc don’t know what the fuck you’re doing.

Unless you spend at least 100 grand on a camera and 3 lenses, you have no business shooting digital and old be better off making real films on the real media you want them to look like.

There's a terrible lack of clips in this thread. It's a civil general, certainly a good one by 4chins standards. When was the last time an anon posted something they shot? Don't make me go to the archives.

>>4446890
>It's a civil general, certainly a good one by 4chins standards
Look above at the guy sperging out and saying ChatGPT is better.

>current PC failing to generate steady previews of 4k60 mxf video in editing software even with hardware acceleration and a 3090
Wellp guess I'm gonna go buy a 5090 in the morning.

>>4446891
>sperging out
I'm not seeing you posting any script ideas, so in that regard yea ChatGPT is better, at least it's providing some on topic content

>>4446966

> script ideas

>>4446408
>>4446415
>>4446455

Somebody used ai to generate 3 scenes for a script. It’s for a torture porn/pseudocode film but it is still an ai generated script.

>>4446828
Good. Just make sure you remember that good films are enjoyable as opposed to the pretentious notion that it's good because you expressed yourself or whatever bullshit.
>>4446890
People rarely post clips in this thread. People who have any sort of talent/skill don't want to be doxed. No one wants to watch shitty nothing videos comprised of 20 static shots of boring architecture

>>4446408
you have thousands of years of written theatre available to you, why do you use this crap to create the shittiest pastiche possible?

https://www.xdcam-user.com/2020/11/raw-isnt-magic-with-the-right-tools-log-does-it-too/
Thoughts?
>tldr; raw isn't as magic as people think and log recording basically carries roughly the same information

>>4446920
Ope nevermind pirated the newest software version and it runs flawlessly, guess I don't gotta drop 2.5 grand after all.

>>4447037
Raw only isn't magic if it's not actual raw

Actual raw = 14 bit longgop, no NR, no compression, nothing, it's the same as if you were shooting stills at 24fps

>>4447037
>https://www.xdcam-user.com/2020/11/raw-isnt-magic-with-the-right-tools-log-does-it-too/
>So the recorded raw file already has a particular white balance and ISO. I know lots of people will be disappointed to hear this or simply refuse to believe this but that’s the truth about a raw bitmap image with a single code value for each pixel and that value is determined by the camera settings.
>This can be adjusted later in post production, but the adjustment range is not unlimited and it is not the same as making an adjustment in the camera. Plus there can be consequences to the image quality if you make large adjustments.
Does "raw" video really have this flaw? It's not really raw video then. It's just marginally better log.

>>4447029
Remember this is 4chan. Sodomistic torture barns generate a lot more lulz then high art. People who know how to do high art don’t need to use ai to do the heavy lifting for them.

>>4447089
The type of raw you are talking about where you can push the fuck out of the image without breaking anything and change any setting you want with breaking anything takes a fuckton of disk space. That’s why a lot of people use fake raw that lets to do slight adjustments to whitebalance. BRAW isn’t fake raw—it is raw that was designed to handle the 12k sensor blackmagic developed and uses.

as a student filmfag do I even need 10bit 4:2:2 shit? For personal projects it looks overkill. I already avoid arri hypebeasts. my lumix g7 is breaking my balls rn

>>4447204
lol basically no one needs it. light your shit and get it right in camera. people used to shoot blockbusters on 8mm film.

>>4447205
youre right. my mindset was skewed from the beginning

>>4447204
you don't need it, but it helps if you do any cg compositing or you totally fucked the white balance. if you get it right in camera you don't need the leverage in post

>>4447205
Ignore these fags my sir! You need not just 422 10 bit, but also open gate to do good video, and make sure your 4k60 has no crop factor because that makes video bad.

This is why panasonic makes the best cameras and sony will die any day now my sir.

>>4447249
ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>4447249
Someone's salty, for some reason...

>>4447452
>>4447564

This is not a shitpost:

>>4447249

This is a shitpost:

>>4446415

>>4446408
>>4446415
>>4446455
This Sugar vs Chosis fanfic is somehow even worse than the Moop fanfic concocted by cinefag and Colin a while ago

About to head to San Franscisco in a few days. Do you all have any tips on how I can get a film set tour, or ya'know see your film set? I know despite how I am in the South how horrorifying cities are so you all gotta keep your guards up, but this is a once in a lifetime opportunity.

-Zach

Not trolling you all. I'm about to San Franny soon. I'll pay you two hours what your salary is on a film set if I can see what a film is like. I'll add a half an hour to it if you show me the brutal reality of it all.

>>4447679
Powerful ai that lets losers write screenplays and bored anons that watch “A Serbian Film” with their friends to laugh at the degeneracy is what makes stuff like this possible.

>>4447739
I used an ai to rewrite that script to make it about emacs vs. vi tribalism for the lulz:

INT. SYMBOLICS LAB BASEMENT – NIGHT (1983)

The air is thick with ozone, burnt coffee, and blood. Green phosphor text scrolls on the SYMBOLICS LISP MACHINE terminal.

VIKTIM (20s, terrified, glasses askew) hangs naked from Ethernet cables, a MECHANICAL KEYBOARD SWITCH PULLER buried in his rectum. Blood drips onto discarded punch cards.

Beside the terminal, the SYMBOLICS LISP MACHINE hums. LAMBDA KNIGHT (30s, pallid, greasy hair, MIT shirt) circles, holding a TELEPRINTER HAMMER.

LAMBDA KNIGHT
(calm, pedantic)
In pure paradigms, side effects are chaos. You introduced impurity with your state mutations. Vi is a sin.

He adjusts VikTim’s glasses with the hammer.

VIKTIM
(gasping)
Please... I’ll use Emacs!

LAMBDA KNIGHT slams the hammer on VikTim's kneecap. A sickening crunch. VikTim screams.

LAMBDA KNIGHT
(smiling)
You just regret :wq in your .bash_history.

He types on the keyboard. Terminal flashes:
> (DARK-MYCIN:OPTIMIZE-PAIN-PARAMETERS T)

SYMBOLICS MACHINE (V.O.)
(Synthetic, flat)
ADMINISTERING: COMBINED STIMULANT. PAIN RECEPTORS: MAX SENSITIVITY.

A robotic arm injects an IV into VikTim’s neck. He convulses.

LAMBDA KNIGHT
Good. Now—

He grabs a bucket of MAGNETIC CORE MEMORY RODS in liquid nitrogen.

LAMBDA KNIGHT
Let’s see how long until you freeze.

He dumps the rods onto VikTim. A hiss mixes with his shrieks.

SYMBOLICS MACHINE (V.O.)
WARNING: TISSUE NECROSIS AT 37%. RECOMMEND: ROTATE TORTURE VECTOR.

SMASH CUT TO:

EXT. MIT BUILDING 20 – DAWN
LAMBDA KNIGHT exits, wiping his hands. The machine whirs on a cart. A faint whimper echoes from the basement.

SYMBOLICS MACHINE (V.O.)
PROCEDURE COMPLETE. VI FILES: PURGED.

LAMBDA KNIGHT lights a clove cigarette, eyes reflecting the terminal's glow.

LAMBDA KNIGHT
(Whispers)
(car cdr)... Amen.

>>4447719
Clean your room! Absolutely disgusting...

>>4447719
>shit on the floor
>mechanical pencils
>probiotic packets in background
>barebones warehouse-style shelf
You're an engineering student aren't you Zach

>>4447821
Close, data engineering with a business analytics major.

>>4447897
So... Not close at all.

>>4448251

Anyone can tell me why wanderingdp didn't put a light on the drinks in his latest video? Its a low budget ad for drinks but the drinks don't even stick out? He could've just spot them a bit with the source 4 led he used to give an extra a edge light.

>>4448915
Guess the director pissed him off so he decided to sabotage the shot (which he’s admitted to doing in the past). That or more proof he’s a talentless hack that doesn’t know what he’s talking about. What a piece of shit.

>>4448996
>Guess the director pissed him off so he decided to sabotage the shot
That happened with Blade Trinity. Wesley Snipes refused to open his eyes in a scene and they had to CGI his eyes opening since it was an integral scene, you can actually see the shit CGI in the final cut of the movie.

>>4449002
> shit cgi

If it was that important of a scene that you are going to use cgi to save the scene why not use good cgi

Do you guys know what the safe distance is between a hot light (fresnel 1k) and fabric? I assume the fabric is heat resistance sense it's a Matthews brand.

>>4449109
no way to know without using a thermometer to measure the max temp of the light mate

>>4449070
It was 2004, there was no good cgi

Is there a library of green screen effects/footage I can pirate anywhere?

Blackpill about California, you need connections, Hollywood is a private introverted business, and the only place willing to help you with experience is Abelcine and RED if you pay them $2k or more. I'm going to try one place in Berkley to see if I can get help with movie making and if not that is that.

The Arri building can help you too... Though RED you have to attend an event. Added the tours about Hollywood are overly surface level about filmmaking. Literally having seen the behind the scenes documentary does more.

>>4449443
>>4449445
>Hollywood is a private introverted business
Jews?

>>4449443
I'd get in contact with Trevor Simms if I were in your position

>>4449545
>trevor-sama... I kneel

>>4449109
I've put my lights pretty close to the diffuser, less than 50cm surely with no problems. The material didn't get hot whatsoever.
>>4449246
Yeah, youtube.

>>4449547
kek, I just imagined Zach begging him to train him

>>4449576
Boldest move on /p/ in months.
I wonder what aussie arri anon is up to. Kind of surprised I haven't spotted some mid-thirties bogan hauling one around the race tracks I've been going to.

>>4449561
>youtube
Booo.

>>4447679

I got another chapter of the fanfic for you to enjoy:

FADE IN:

INT. COMMUNITY TECH HUB – DAY

A young girl (10) at a retro console, Lisp machines hum softly. Screens flicker with code.

LISP MACHINE (V.O.)
“Compilation successful.”

A vibrant graphic appears. A MENTOR nods.

MENTOR
Incredible.

CUT TO:

INT. UNDERGROUND ROOM – NIGHT

The same Lisp machine interfaces with sensors. A POLITICIAN strapped to a chair shudders.

LISP MACHINE
“Administering stimulus.”

The OPERATOR smirks, adjusting dials.

OPERATOR
Gotta keep you engaged.

CUT BACK TO:

INT. TECH HUB – DAY

The girl’s program is fixed. She smiles.

LISP MACHINE
“Error resolved.”

CUT TO:

INT. UNDERGROUND ROOM – NIGHT

The machine jolts the Politician with electrodes.

POLITICIAN
(pained)
Stop—

CUT BACK TO:

INT. TECH HUB – DAY

The girl receives a certificate. Her parent hugs her, proud.

LISP MACHINE (V.O.)
“Session complete. Knowledge expanded.”

CUT TO:

INT. UNDERGROUND ROOM – DAWN

The Politician, broken silhouette, the machine hums softly.

LISP MACHINE (V.O.)
“Session complete. Awareness expanded.”

The OPERATOR pats the console.

OPERATOR
Good job.

FADE OUT.

Alright I checked with the last guy. It is a no.

>>4450178
You contacted Trevor?

>>4450180
All I got to know is that Hollywood is very private and focused when they make images like going into a surgery room for making a good image and that if you are some overly excited bad example, they don't want to deal with you, which is ridiculous. Like I can't help being this overly excited 30 year old kid and it dissapoints me the big leaguers don't want to deal with me.

>>4450180
And again and again the one who wins is the voice of reason who listened the best, and yet I can't because I love talking. Man the idea Hollywood loves extroverts is a myth.

>>4450344
nigga, even the autists on this fucking board don't want to deal with you

bump limit reached, new thread
>>4450377