Thread 4458643

>be me
>took basic digital photography course
>been using Instagram since 2012, watched it turn woke and enshittify
>more than 900 photos uploaded yet less than 120 followers in the end
>account got flagged for "spam" for pushing back against- and criticizing gender ideology or the LGBT+ cult
>gets deleted
>make new account
>algorithm sucks, hashtags no longer work because "muh Maui wildfires censorship" or something (it's no longer possible to browse posts by Recent)
>only a few followers and getting some likes partly from thot spambots, old followers either forgot about me or don't care anymore but new account is rather unaffiliated to old one in terms of Big Data
>looked near the Sun during 2017's partial solar eclipse in a backyard with white-ass walls reflecting sunlight like snow
>vision felt like it got slightly less bright and less colorful after that, but maybe it healed after all these years
>Nikon camera got humid inside during a vacation trip, then got dirty with rice dust (yes, rice dust) because silly me tried putting it inside a bag of rice to take humidity out = lowkey bodied
>stone-inside-shoe kind of problem made me lose enjoyment for photography even though I wasn't that good at it
>wat do

>>4458643 (OP)
>account got flagged for "spam" for pushing back against- and criticizing gender ideology or the LGBT+ cult
>gets deleted
lol chuds can't never shut up can they? their hot takes permeate their whole lives even if they don't know a single gay person irl
why do you keep using a woke and shitty platform OP?

>>4458643 (OP)
buy another nikon and give rockwellian 4x6 prints to people you know until everyone calls you the saturator and mr. eyebleach

>>4458651
>stop criticizing pedophiles reeeeeeeeeee`

>>4458652
I've been thinking about sending the one I already had to Nikon for service, man. Picrel is just a snapshit I hadn't uploaded, dawg, leave me alone (I have better ones IMO). At least I'm having fun with the editing like back in the good, old days of Instagram. I don't understand why you talk like digital photos have to be perfect in terms of color accuracy when that's the whole point of film's charm.

>>4458651
>lol chuds can't never shut up can they? their hot takes permeate their whole lives even if they don't know a single gay person irl
My comments were actually in response to those of other people bashing the pro skateboarder Richie Jackson for his anti-LGBT stance. That's when the problems started, and my account got banned for defending a right-wing politician from my country against people also bashing her. And I have a cousin who suffers from same-sex attraction syndrome since his teenage years, actually.

>why do you keep using a woke and shitty platform OP?
Millenial nostalgia and a naïve need for social interaction, given that this platform is pretty much unusable or at least boring now for most people who are not celebrities, beautiful women, corporate brands, etc.

Please show me a replacement for old Instagram if you know one, because I don't.

(I'm OP.)

>>4458667

You are ignoring a piece of truth here. Your photos are not interesting to anyone. If you want to put something into the world you need to figure something more useful or interesting than what you are currently doing. If your photos are boring no platform or viewer anywhere wants them.
Also don’t limit yourself to just photography as it’s a very hard area to compete in currently, think instead of subject matter, you can take up any other hobby then combine in your photography.

>>4458672
>Your photos are not interesting to anyone
Oh yeah because 4chin is a catalog of avant-garde photography. I'd rather see a slightly interesting snapshit over the endless gear threads any day.

>>4458677

This is such a slow moving board you can put the worst photos of all time here and force people to see them. The thing is though, what is that really achieving?
If you want to put photos anywhere but here, you can’t just walk around snapshitting whatever you saw on your latest walk, you will actually have to consciously figure out something more interesting.

>>4458643 (OP)
Bait thread

>>4458683

how did you manage to spot a bait thread with all the legitimate threads on this board?

>>4458643 (OP)
>>account got flagged for "spam" for pushing back against- and criticizing gender ideology or the LGBT+ cult
should've just kept it to photography and the rest on >>>/pol/ lel

>look naked at the sun during solar eclipse
Are you retarded or was this to own the liberal lgbts or something

>>4458672
>You are ignoring a piece of truth here. Your photos are not interesting to anyone.
Sounds like *your* subjective "truth" or opinion, man. Did you miss the part where I said I had less than 200 followers? People did like what I posted, I had an online friend who said she really liked me style, I've shown them to a couple family members... Yes, I know I'm not the best photographer out there, but I'm not the kind of person who thinks I have to use a DSLR with a specific style and Photoshop to make my photos "interesting", because at the end of the day, the best camera is the one you have in hand, even if it's a pinhole camera.

You also missed the part where I said the algorithm sucks and hashtags no longer work (they way the did, I mean, and how they're supposed to). Let me give you an example: A famous photographer artist in Instagram, Ronen Goldman, to this day only gets a few likes because Instagram is ruined by the progressive ideology in Meta and government interference regulating it.

>Don't limit yourself to photography...
I don't care. My post was about what I should do given a vision problem and Instagram problems. Don't limit yourself to shutting up when you need to, thanks. You basically said "no one cares about your photos, take up another hobby" instead of actual advice.

>>4458672
>>4458713
I may have misremembered and got confused with another photographer I followed, and it's not like every one of his posts is equally popular, but case in point...

>>4458704
Retarded decision and I also tried to shut them up through something called argumentation (too lazy to properly make an account specifically for those kinds of comments with a VPN and so on), which Instagram's A.I. moderation didn't like, I don't know what exactly happened. I remembered getting a death threat from some woke weirdo via a DM, just for defending Richie Jackson. Instagram also wasn't taking my reports seriously, moderation was just very bad.

>>4458688
It's a legitimate thread with less-than-serious writing style as per 4chong's tradition, that's it.

Instagram is the worst standard to hold yourself to. Followers do not indicate quality. Saying you have a lot of instagram followers is like saying you’re popular at the local furry convention.

>>4458682
>you can’t just walk around snapshitting whatever you saw on your latest walk
I actually can and have fun in the process, including the way I edit my photos, especially if it's just for something like old Instagram and not some kind of photography contest, pretentious 4chan post, etc.

It's what this guy is sort of doing, but maybe you wouldn't criticize him as harshly because he's carrying a DSLR and not an automatic snapshit-producing smartphone camera (which fails to explain at which point a smartphone's digital photograph ceases to be just some "snapshit"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4c-7CG8LOs

>you will actually have to consciously figure out something more interesting
Not necessarily. Spontaneity and inspiration don't usually come in a pre-planned process.

But I admit I could use more formal studying, technique, classes, experience and so on. Maybe I'm just lazy and mediocre like that.

>>4458719
Are you some kind of zoomer who only knows modern Instagram? OG Instagram actually attracted real photographers and amateurs who wanted to share their creativity with others in a decent or lighthearted way. Real photographers with artistic merit can be found there, such as @02q or @mattfrench .

You just don't know what you're talking about. I never claimed I had a lot of followers in this thread, and yes, you're right that there's such a thing as an appeal-to-popularity fallacy.

>>4458643 (OP)
>>4458667
If this was the result of over 10 years of practicing photography, well you are certainly never going to make it.

>>4458727
You know, that's a very curious response because you're either:
- Trolling (enough said).
- Skilled and being unnecessarily condescending and particularly unhelpful (shows some kind of "elitist" inferiority complex or a defensive attitude).
- Unskilled (just insulting to appear better at this craft than what you really are).

Either way, yours was a a bit of a retarded and trash answer to the post that you can't even confirm because you're talking about the unknown future. And you didn't even elaborate on what you mean by "making it". I'm not comparing myself to someone like Van Gogh nor claiming I'm super artistic or skilled, but those artists didn't "make it" while being alive.

Do you mean "make it" as in your regular Dreamstime stock photo content producer who makes a lot of money on that kind of stuff?

Marcel Duchamp "made it" through the equivalent of shitposting in museums. I think the two photos I posted here have more artistic merit than picrel.

>>4458730
yeah, never going to make it.

>>4458643 (OP)
>>4458667
If these are examples of your "work" then you are a failure.
You seriously took a course? Like you paid, and attended lectures? And this is what you get for your efforts? Really?

>>4458727
If he was painfully liberal, made connections with liberal slacktivist/investor scammers, and shot a few gay black couples naked, he would in fact make it with photos exactly this boring if not worse. He could have gotten a shitton of insta exposure by posting pride month shit and #BLM #saintfloyd. Etc.

Have you seen magnum and group VI lately? All trash but they're "on the right side of history" (which curiously has to be enforced with material threats such as permanent loss of the "privilege" to have a career anywhere in a society ruled by a small section of the ultra rich, who are mostly just abusing liberal ideology to further abuse immigrants as cheap scab labor without rights)

Very little in anglosphere-dominated culture has been about merit for the past 40 years
It's all about being politically favored by your publisher.

>>4458735
Never in this thread did I claim this was my best "work", I'm just posting whatever and I don't want to doxx myself referencing my actual Instagram account here. You have little reading comprehension, dude. Again, are you one of those people who think a DSLR black-and-white photo of European architecture automatically has a lot more artistic merit than being elsewhere, with another camera, trying to find beauty in the middle of ugliness, especially in a spontaneous and lighthearted way?

Yes, I'm a fucking failure. Now go on with your very successful day.

>>4458738
>DSLR black-and-white photo
m8, the fuck does that means.

>>4458737
>he would in fact make it with photos exactly this boring if not worse
What did you want me to post a photo of, a first person point of view of a Six Flags ride? What is a non-boring photo to you?

I just saw a photo of a freaking cat laying down in another recent thread here today, and an under-exposed photo of the sky with some classical architecture to the sides that were just shadows. Zero criticism of that, and a literal thread on "digishits".

But thanks for your social commentary contribution. I failed to thank the people here who actually tried to give their honest opinion in a semi-helpful way because I was busy being offended.

>>4458738
I think denoised leaves and upscaled highpass filtered buildings with artifacts everywhere are not art.
Neither is most photography.
The baseline is producing something of good visual quality.

The fact that you even have an instagram account means these are all foreign concepts to you, but yeah, if it doesn't look good then it's not "art" if that's the answer you're looking for. People use real cameras and tripods because they are required in order to produce images that don't look bad.

>>4458746
Mate just shoot religious minorities standing in front of semi-unique doorways or something and submit it to some liberal leaning thing with a liberal leaning spiel about marginalized intersectional yadda yadda and enjoy your success. You don't even have to be good at photography. Being good at photography is "out of date". So say the whos in charge. Also being good at music is out of date. Master of violin? Lame. NIGGUH UH GOTTA BLICKY NUH? Top 10.

>>4458747
Alright, man, thanks for your comment. Now let me ask you this: Think of whoever photographer you consider an artist. Now give them a pinhole camera. Are you saying now they can't physically produce art because they're using a pinhole camera?

Now give your professional camera with a tripod to someone in your family who is at least 16 years old, have them take a normal photograph of an inherently beautiful scenery. Is that automatically more artistic?

I'm getting tired of mean, pretentious and unhelpful takes which I can consistently counter-argue. But I agree objective beauty exist and things are not necessarily art just because they're called that or were intended to be that.

>The fact that you even have an instagram account means these are all foreign concepts to you

Which concepts? The fact that you said something like that just shows you have only followed bad Instagram accounts if you have ever used this platform, or you just know the modern version of Instagram. Again, check out @02q or @mattfrench just to give a couple of examples there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7wF7d04aX8

>>4458752
>Think of whoever photographer you consider an artist. Now give them a pinhole camera.
A pinhole camera is a nice camera, anon.

There is no way a pinhole camera will ever subject photos to oversharpening, HDR merges, or smeary noise reduction. It will not cover the world in green and purple blotches or turn bark and leaves into weird hazy wormy nonsense. It will simply produce a creamy and dreamy image of a static scene with vibrant film colors.

>Now give your professional camera with a tripod to someone in your family who is at least 16 years old, have them take a normal photograph of an inherently beautiful scenery. Is that automatically more artistic?
I did this once, i got an overexposed tilted snapshit that was only focused on 4 meters of foreground back.

>>4458754
>There is no way a pinhole camera will ever subject photos to oversharpening, HDR merges, or smeary noise reduction. It will not cover the world in green and purple blotches or turn bark and leaves into weird hazy wormy nonsense. It will simply produce a creamy and dreamy image of a static scene with vibrant film colors.

u wot m8

(Taken from https://www.lomography.es/magazine/327537-the-pinhole-movement)

>>4458759
See that? It looks very nice and artistic. It would look awesome framed as a metallic print. Now imagine the same photo taken on an iphone or a micro four turds camera. It would look cheap and tacky.

>>4458762
I literally showed you a visual example of a pinhole photograph contradicting what you said earlier (that you would never see a pinholo photo do this and that). You first criticized my initial photo speaking as if the whole technique was wrong, implying that I'm unskilled (which I'm not necessarily denying because if you read my post, you would see I said I'm not the best photographer and so on, and I was just casually posting something, not claiming it's my best photo). Now you move goalposts and talk as if a medium imitating another is what's wrong (like a mirrorless Sony camera pretending to take a monochrome exposure like film does). So which one is it?

If I'm unskilled or don't have talent or need more practice, just say it instead of beating around the bush. I didn't know I had to be a professional artist to be allowed to post here without anyone bashing me.

>>4458754
True facts about pinhole, but, you can also pinhole on digital or pinhole on a smartphone.
To be clear pinhole with fine grain B&W film is what's great. If it gets processed or fed through phone bullshit then things change.
Kek at the loaner cam+tripod yeah retards don't know how to use cameras. Kids these days will try tapping a screen on a DSLR even if it's not a touchscreen DSLR.

To answer the guy's question though, yeah, give someone who knows how to use both and they'll always produce a better photo with a real camera.

>>4458752
>Now give them a pinhole camera. Are you saying now they can't physically produce art because they're using a pinhole camera?
Pinholes are fine.
If you set up good lighting or a scene, anything of good quality has the potential to capture art.
Denoising, high pass filtering, AI enhancing, and digital zoom/upscaling invalidate all attempts.
28 Days Later is a nice movie, but the cameras were fucking shit. Nobody likes the way the movie looks. Everyone saying that they do are lying or have been gaslit into consuming copium. It was literally produced at 360p, below standard def TV that even music videos were shot at or scanned at even 40 years ago.

>Which concepts?
That photography itself isn't art, and equipment matters. No you can't fix it in post.
If you try to use photography in an artistic way nobody cares unless you have the right gear AND good subjects.
The "art" behind photography would be set design, lighting, timing, and traveling to get perfect angles of nature's beauty, or a good angle of a whore for porn. Your phone snapshits aren't art. Never will be.
>The fact that you said something like that just shows you have only followed bad Instagram accounts if you have ever used this platform, or you just know the modern version of Instagram.
Also the concept of someone never having used Instagram. Fucking lmao at you zoomies.
>Again, check out @02q or @mattfrench just to give a couple of examples there.
No thanks.

>>4458775
>Denoising
Wrong. No one notices or cares good mild denoise like capture one defaults or whats typical for modern cameras SOOC jpegs with NR set to low. The alternative is worse because of chroma noise. All color cameras have chroma noise. Some fujislug will now claim otherwise, not knowing ultra strong chroma NR is literally part of the .RAF format.
>high pass filtering
If done correctly no one notices or cares. You are starting to sound like a darktable user who just can't do these things and meet the standard without at least 10 years of C++ experience.
>AI enhancing,
This is at least correct
>and digital zoom
You mean cropping? Whether or not it's a problem depends on final output size. Uploading a whole 100mp direct to 4chan will look like shit to someone because web browser zoom ranges from 200% to 300% vs the zoom level of a print, for example, and 100% size for a bayer camera is actually an upscale for most color combos. Uploading 100mp down to 75mp might look better, with high pass filtering.
>upscaling invalidate all attempts
It depends on if its web browser max zoom or a 300dpi print.

>>4458643 (OP)
Lol Is that your photo? It's amazing how conservatives literally make the most dog tier shit. Are you sure nobody follows your photography because your spewing bullshit and not because you photos are incredibly unremarkable?

>>4458771
If the sun goes into your eyes from the side it does exactly what that pinhole photo shows, so no contradiction there: pure realism

>>4458653
Hey buddy just cause your a pedo doesn't mean we can't criticize you. Your pictures are shit and that's why we are making fun of you. You really should stop searching for kids on Instagram and commenting about their bodies. That's pretty gross.

>>4458784
>wow conservatives are super shit artists literally incapable of creativity
meanwhile, liberals
https://www.magnumphotos.com/arts-culture/music/lua-ribeira-nft-obscura-magnum-commission/

it deserves a second mention
if op stuck with the same godawful boring photography and mixed in libturd friendly themes like muh marginalized minorities he would succeed
entrance into the art world is curated based on politics. being good at art is out of date and uncool. it's all politics now.

>>4458787
And mind you magnum photographers have HELP. They can ask for anything to make their vision a reality.

And this is what passes.

>>4458787
>Posts an objectively more interesting photo than OPs
>uses it as an example how they are worse than OP
>"I'm bad at photography but so are the liberals!!1!"

Why are you chuds so obsessed with magnum? A liberal takes a couple mid photos and that suddenly makes your photography good? Reflect on your failure and learn from it. Liberals taking mid pictures isn't going to improve your photography and if you only care about the liberal art establishment recognizing you then just stop shooting and sell your camera lol

>>4458784
>It's amazing how conservatives literally make the most dog tier shit.
This, coming from someone who doesn't believe in objective beauty and thinks traditional standards must be taken down through diversity, inclusion and equity on catshit advertisements?

You're taking my photo and generalizing to all conservatives' photographic skill like a typical leftist thinking collectivistically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsUiPFXEBBY

>>4458786
What the heck are you talking about? You responded to another user's comment, by the way.

>>4458789
>objectively more interesting
>a hideously ugly woman laying in grass
My point was photography is no longer rated on quality, but on how it fits in with a greater political narrative that is being forced hard.

>>4458790
It's not ALL beauty, just beauty in select cultures.

>>4458790
Lol I never said I was a leftist just that your one of those people obsessed with being conservative and aesthetically blind. If you want to post propaganda buy an ad bugboy.

>>4458801
that's not a thing however

most people are aesthetically blind too and being aesthetically blind or not is apolitical.
being successful despite being aesthetically blind on the other hand is extremely political, as indicated by the aggressively liberal, "fat black tranny" pushing photographers who have met with immense success and have literal hundreds of thousands of dollars of help behind them not just helping them shoot what they want, but feeding them ideas and opportunities (and they still produce straight up trash)

dont get me wrong there can be beauty in taking photos of ugly people
bruce gilden is good at it
but it's a lost art

>>4458798
No objectively OP's photo is so bad the Magnum photo was more interesting lol. Idk how you managed that one OP. I literal brick wall shot has more going on

>>4458804
I would take a wee crop and edit of >>4458667 over literally anything lua ribeira shot

>>4458807
>I'd rather follow my political beliefs off a cliff than admit i'm wrong on a photography forum

>>4458802
The only success that matters with a camera is taking the picture you want. Anything else is a distraction. Especially paid gigs.

Maybe it's time to think of a more local impact. Maybe you aren't making an impact online but you could find things in your community or creative ways to make your lifestyle involve photography more in a meaningful way. A really basic thing to do is learn how to go to the thrift store and properly pick and save money on frames. Take the old stuff out and put your photos in.
Maybe you could make a personal website, something simple like a gallery and a bit about who you are. Nothing crazy. Just enough so that if you meet someone IRL who's interested in your photography while you're out shooting you send them there with like a stack of 100 business cards you printed for 15$ at Walmart. And you could start uploading your images to something like Getty, or even to subject appropriate Google Maps, or Wikipedia, or other places they'll likely be seen. Lots of Getty dudes don't have social media because their photos need to be on Getty. If you're more of an artist than a stock photo guy then maybe get into printmaking beyond just inkjet? Invest in a printer so you can print on plastic transparency paper so you could make high-quality cyanotypes and such. Maybe read about the history of the Pictorialists. Let things like hashtags take a backseat and make it more about what your lifestyle actually is in real life, not just on the internet and on the computer with everything on screens. And I don't just mean your house. Or convince me why there's no opportunity in your community for something interesting.

>>4458716

Rocks and leaves…
And in black and white…

>>4458812
Are you implying lua did better
because she really didn't.

>>4458667
>Please show me a replacement for old Instagram if you know one, because I don't.
https://fotoapp.co
do not start your identity politics drama there

>>4458925
>do not start your identity politics drama there

You have no good reason to condescendingly call it a "drama", and it sounds like people such as you are the dramatic ones in this thread, toxically complaining about something I initially said and projecting like a typical leftist (like the people in this thread bashing on my photography skills or lack thereof because I expressed my political stance regarding Instagram, while they ignore worse photos elsewhere on /p/; which by the way, it's worrying these people act like locusts and now are moving into 4chan after taking over other places like Twitter and Reddit). I was just telling my experiences on modern Instagram, which I'm free to do so, and I'm free to engage in counter-revolutionary discourse too while the post-modernist, neo-marxists are the ones who started with this whole "the personal is political" strategy, cultural marxism and their long march through the institutions.

But other than that, thank you for the URL suggestion, which I would've preferred you didn't accompany with that other comment.

Picrel is not my photo, but it's an example of the kind of photography I've found here apparently passing off as artistic and decent in the eyes of this online community, even though you can only see a shadow landscape with a very cloudy sky and no one calls it "boring" or any other term along those lines. I'm just trying to make an observation about /p/, not to throw shade (no pun intended) on the person who took that photo out of envy or something, because I think it can also be interesting to look at at least for some people and serve as learning material.

>>4458785
I wasn't talking about the equivalent of a lens flare and you know it. I was talking about the fact that you said a good photo has to be taken with something like a DSLR camera and a tripod, implying a high resolution and stable image or something like that, which a pinhole exposure doesn't always offer because it can show signs of distortion along the edges or excessive noise, yet be taken in an artistic and proper way and the latter can be intended artifacts for creative purposes.

To refresh your memory:
>There is no way a pinhole camera will ever subject photos to oversharpening, HDR merges, or smeary noise reduction. IT WILL NOT COVER THE WORLD IN GREEN AND PURPLE BLOTCHES or turn bark and leaves into weird hazy wormy nonsense. It will simply produce a creamy and dreamy image of a STATIC (ignores the blur from a long exposure) scene with vibrant film colors.

>>4459192
Also taken from https://www.lomography.es/magazine/327537-the-pinhole-movement , not my photo, and I'm not saying it looks bad (sorry, forgot to clarify this).

>>4459188
Oh so THAT'S what the kids mean by "artistic". Can I try?

>>4458823
Thank you.

>>4458813
I don't agree 100% because technique is obviously important, but I think that's a good kind of attitude when photographing because it's about doing genuine and not money-driven work. Thanks for your comment.

>>4459199
AH! Sorry again, I meant it's more about doing genuine work and money being your #1 priority even though you can do money-driven, yet genuine and good quality work. I can't edit my other comment so I have to type this again.

>>4458888
Ok buddy

>>4459188
Take your meds pal. Your spiraling

>>4459188
There's only a few people here that even attempt to create art with a camera. Just have fun sharing your pics and ignore the dummies. There are a lot of crab bucket type people here. Dont let them spoil your fun.

>>4459197
Ok I think I can do better. How bout dis?

>>4459192
Hes talking about uniquely digital effects that arent being demonstrated here.

>>4459234
>uniquely digital effects
Such as these? I think I took this one with an iPod Touch camera back in 2013 or 2014, whose quality I had to correct with an app that was available back then like Fotor; this was before the digital photography course and during Instagram's OG, hispter days. This one was amongst the many which were salvaged from my old, banned account.

>>4459223
neat
>>4459311
wow a wall

>>4459312
>wow a wall

Yet I'm the one who's "aesthetically blind" here. I doubt that's seriously the only abstraction or concept your brain and eyes interpreted from what's going on in that photo. I'm not taking a first-person point of view with a Sony mirrorless or a Hasselblad or whatever of a Six Flags ride for your immature enjoyment and unnecessary approval.

Just sharing for anyone who might like it and got distracted with all the arguing and insults in this thread. Again, old, salvaged photo from banned and supposedly deleted IG account from the OG, hipster days when thots, corporate brands and censorship didn't reign, and hashtags actually worked to find new stuff.

It's about finding something interesting or aesthetically pleasing in the middle of an ordinary or even ugly environment. And, yes, you can fix certain stuff in "post" and have fun in the process, like a tilted picture or lack of sharpness due to it being an iPod Touch camera.

>>4459320
wow a starbucks

Nigga no one cares about your politics.
You are just aesthetically stunned, these are the kind of photos that everyone takes after getting their first camera, if you have been doing this for 10 years reevaluate your priorities.

>>4459326
so are most people in magnum

>>4459326
No these are the kind of photos people take after going to art school (AKA what you do if you want to fail)

>>4459326
>"Nigga no one cares about your politics."
>Bothered enough to respond.
>Legimately can't bother aesthetically appreciating something different than what's commonly posted on /p/ right now, maybe due to being under 18 years of age.
>Says anyone can take these photos like anyone could tap a pipe the right way as an experienced plumber.
>OP never claimed to be a good photographer.
>doesn't bother criticizing photos of cats laying down on /p/ that are well-framed, maybe.
>didn't bother criticizing the other couple examples of Magnum photos that were actually ugly but fit into the woke agenda of tearing down traditional beauty standards.
>clownpepe.jpg

Enjoy, dude.

>>4459336
>than what's commonly posted on /p/ right now
you are posting the same building corners and assorted lame things that everyone here. God, new topographics really did a number on photographers.
>b-b-but you didn't shit on magnum
yeah they also suck ass, but this is your thread m8 so I come here to see your photos

>>4459338
His photos are moop tier honestly

>>4459211
Thank you. I believe you would've found many more people on Instagram if it hadn't been progressively ruined by Facebook / Meta buying the platform along with government interference, and it retained its original essence (>>4458925 mentioned a supposed alternative to old Instagram but I haven't checked it out).

Example: https://www.instagram.com/momix111/
Also, old accounts like the ones I already mentioned: @02q and @mattfrench.

>>4459336
He's a nophoto crab bucket. Why are you engaging with him? I doubt he even owns a camera.

>>4459342
Show me one of yours, then (and don't act like it's already all professional and artistic just because it was taken with a higher-resolution camera). And after doing that, tell me how I can improve.

>>4459336
>takes bad photos then posts them for critique
>"I'm not the problem! Women and minorities made my photos bad"
>phew that was close! I almost self reflected on why i'm so alone and churn out nonstop garbage. Glad thing i'm still a special snowflake!

lol this has got to be one of the most pathetic threads on /p. Rightoids shit up everything they are allowed into. The gear threads are even better than this one.

>>4459366
>its cuz rightoids
No its because even worse cultural marxist photographers are gifted success for significantly worse or equally bad photography and this confuses equally talentless people who simply hold more correct moral and political views

>>4459373
>cultural marxist photographers
easy with the world salad, bucko

I feel for OP because my photos are trash too.

>>4459433
What is stopping you from doing better, kid?

>>4459380
did your third world censored internet garble the text or have they moved on to neural implants to prevent anti migrant sentiment?

can you read this phrase?
"replacement migration"

>>4459434
Retardation.

>>4459442
Tough one to fix... Have you tried photographing eggs? I hear it helps.

>>4458651
ywnbaw you mentally ill freak

>>4458643 (OP)
I feel for you OP. I am a reactionary. I have discovered that I have to larp as le apolitical if I don't want to be witch hunted by leftoid subhumans. Most of right wing photographers have always larped as apolitical in photography.

Your picture is a nice fuck to inhumane urban nonsense. I agree with this >>4458823 anon. But don't be a pussy and shy away from entering into the real photo industry that prints, photobooks etc.

Also it is a really important skill for a photographer to know what the public is interested in. There's a serious lack of right wing photographers so I am sure there is audience for this shit. I would say try going all in and speak about your beliefs with your photographs not with words.

>>4459695
Lol OP might be samefagging

>>4459701
you woke retards want us disenfranchised. there are many real pieces of shit in the position of power who play your game just to secure their position. they don't give a shit about bring a "progressive". yet you leftoids come after people like op with 120 followers. leftoids now suck the cocks of rich people and upheld the status quo.

>>4459712
meds, now.

>>4459712
Sane post. Medication not necessary.

>>4459713
Meds, now.

>>4459366
it'd be pretty entertaining if it wasn't sad. imo still much better than the gearslop threads, which are completely humorless and lack photos at all. at least this thread has someone who takes pictures

>>4458762
>le visual distortion is inherently better
midwit

>>4459701
Nope, I wouldn't call myself a "reactionary" (which is a word leftists, liberals, progressives or what have you, use). And if you payed more attention and exercised some more reading comprehension in this thread, you'd see I've been trying to identify myself as "OP" earlier just like in this comment, and had already tried shutting up and not responding to the anons retardedly shitting on this thread out of spite like mean girls, therefore avoiding to bump this thread. Trust me, I could've gone on arguing with these people like older Youtube arguments but I don't want to bother others so much in this board, and I apologize for causing some political strife in an (I assume) otherwise apolitical board.

>>4459366
Your little greentext is nothing more than a reductionist straw-man argument demonstrating poor reading comprehension, either wilfully or not, but perhaps I didn't write my initial post in a clearer way (for example by clarifying I took that course in 2016 or so, so that's just 4 years after opening the old account, then I considerably decreased my photographing activity after the 2017 partial Sun eclipse so I don't know where that "you've been at it for 10 consecutive years" criticism comes from).

Your baseless and emotional claim that "rightoids (whatever that means implying you know me more than you actually do) shit up everything they are allowed into" pathetically ignored examples such as picrel, >>4458788, the woke-induced Instagram enshittification (also due to E.S.G. globohomo activism and neo-fascist censorship), or even in other areas like woke activism enshittifying the video game industry by pushing away meritocracy and forcing the diversity-inclusion-equity corporate paradigm that some left-leaning or left-appeasing governments interested in population control and tearing down traditional and objective beauty standards like so much.

Sorry for re-bumping this thread. You guys need to shut up if you're ignoring >>4459351.

What a lame thread.
OP has mental issues
The rest of you are equally retarded talking about left and right.
A good photo is a good photo.
Lua Ribeira sucks no matter what political angle you look from.
There are no shades of suck, if your photo sucks, it sucks.
Small impact anon was right.
Contribute more to photo threads you goobers. I tried to kickstart a thread that was meant as bait into a photo thread etc, go post photos you weirdos

>>4459966
>(which is a word leftists, liberals, progressives or what have you, use)
I am a reactionary but you're an idiot. Reaction is a legit political philosophy dating back centuries.

>>4459198
It's been a few days. Have you made any progress or brainstormed any plans? I feel tempted to write more about this approach but I'd prefer to have a starting point.

>>4458667
>>4458643 (OP)
I could answer you OP but it would be a very long response, which you might feel disheartened by because you most likely lack the resources or motivation to survive the radical shifts the medium (and the hobby) are going through right now. I think it would be better to either put it down for a while and see if any other interest captivates you for a while, or to try just focusing on your photography completely in solitude, without any social media, including places like this.

>>4460344
>>I could answer you OP but it would be a very long response
not op but write it man. what's the issue? im also grappling with this sort of shit

>>4459976
>What a lame thread
>OP has mental issues
>proceeds with their subpar take

Responses such as yours, coming from people who supposedly didn't want to see this thread in the first place, bump the thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H8GR4v6CfQ

>>4460495
That was me but I forgot to type "OP" in the name field.

>>4459982
In case you didn't notice, I said that in response to someone else insinuating another anon in this thread was samefagging as me. And saying that leftists use that term is just a factual statement. Right-wingers prefer the term conservative or traditionalist, since a left-leaning statu quo isn't technically conservative given its revolutionary nature, but that's just how I see it and I very well could be ignorant about it.

Do you like my reaction image?

>>4460104
Hey. No, it's been the same but thanks. Just to clarify, the point of my post I attempted to communicate and failed in doing so was: "hey guys, here's kind of my synthesized experience of modern Instagram and I can't find a replacement for old Insta (when you could browse hashtags by Most Recent posts and Meta's censorship wasn't so bad, or pre-Facebook's acquisition); I made a dumb decision in 2017 that I feel like it slightly damaged my eyesight, I didn't properly take care of my camera, lost motivation, what should I do?", while lightheartedly posting some photos in a Photography board (of which criticism I didn't expect to be this bad although I knew there was room for it), but tried being funny with the greentext and maybe that made the post confusing. I didn't claim to be a good photographer, and I didn't say "I've been practicing for at least 10 consecutive years and look how good I am"...

And I've been monitoring this thread but have tried to not engage in stupid, unrelated arguments.

That's what has happened so far, basically. Oh, and I tried asking Nikon for information regarding servicing my DLSR model, and thinking about retaking the basic digital photography course at another school from the same company. IG account activity is still boring due to broken hashtag browsing without the "Most recent" search feature. I have other problems in my life but they're irrelevant in this thread. And again, I take photos more for fun or as a relaxing hobby than something professionally or artistically serious.

Again, my apologies for bumping this thread, to people annoyed by it already. I suggest taking a walk or moving on to another thread if that's the case [not talking to >>4460104 (you) but in general].

>>4460505
You and everyone else is burned out on visual media completely. You need to shift to other forms of media or you need to use your photography hobby as part of a project that is not about "photography" in itself, but serves some other purpose.

>>4460628
Based take. I'm sure OP will listen

>>4460628
Only care about prints/physical visual media. It's really simple.

>>4460633
It's close but it's not the only way

>>4460628
Nope

Stop caring about fame. Fame is not a human right. Fame is not universally attainable. Society has, finally, and thank fucking god, finally reverted to the mean regarding access to fame. It is again exclusive to a class of stuck up do-nothing dickheads who sucked the right dicks or had the right dad. The era of democratized content is over - again! It barely even got started really.
>you mean success!?
its art. the two forms of success are selling out and being a blue collar gigging craftsman, and fame.

If you didn't want to work, instead start caring about relationships and self fulfillment. In the future even onlyfans will be gone and there will be no avenues towards fame left. Fame is not a human right. Treating it as one has severely degraded society, and society is reacting and expunging the cause of inflammation like a body healing around a sliver. And I'm glad the right to a chance at fame is dead. Next step, tear down the famous, all those actors and ball players who don't deserve to be there. We can do a little communism once in a while as long as we call it "the right thing to do at the moment" instead of bringing all of marx into it.

>>4460640
This is such cope. Photography is a medium of communication. People who try to make the hobby some kind of ecosystem to satisfy your urge to buy and collect things is unnatural. Not a single thing you said made sense. If people no longer are moved, inspired by, demand, or even pay attention to photography, for whatever reason, it ceases to be relevant as a cultural means of expression. You should sit there making sand castles on the beach, which no one will ever look at, and which are washed away by the tide, if you truly believed this infantile cope you blorted out in this post reply.

>>4460651
>photography is about communication so you need to care about "success" and reaching as many people as possible
i bet you're either american, or a shittier american like a brit
you are so fucking brain damaged by social media that you think engaging in a hobby for your own enjoyment and to share with the people who are close to you, instead of to get recognition from strangers, is the equivalent of making sand castles that will never be seen, and is an infantile cope, pathetic even
>oh no
>i will never be published and if i will be i will get less than 1000 views
>my life is pointless, pathetic, and a sad cope

you are fucking braindead
god, please let americans and their shitty culture of temporarily embarrassed celebrities and millionaires die in a shit colored flood
people with actual culture and actual values ie: in asia have no problems engaging in hobbies to share with family, to share with real friends, and to meet new friends in real life with
it is ONLY stupid fucking white people that cry and go "why me, my life is pointless" if they cant achieve widespread recognition with strangers because your entire culture worships hollywood and the nfl

death to america
china #1

>>4460652
Well, that definitely explains why on average westerners dont get married, dont have kids, dont have friends, dont go to parties, and have record depression and mass shooting rates.

Being so mentally wrecked that you cant imagine doing photography to enjoy life instead of to "make it" is a symptom of a purposeless life. If they’re so far gone they look upon fulfillment over fame as pathetic, yeah, no wonder.

Mark zuckerberg destroyed their entire country.

>>4460652
>>4460653
Meds.

>>4460654
Ironically americans take meds for everything. I guess chinabro is right. Being a neurotic perpetual failure is the american way.

You literally called settling for keeping your photography small time instead of trying to get big a sad cope. You have other prospects right? You’re not a crippled retard with zero skills and can do more than just aim a camera and press a button?

For the 100 years of photography sans facebook cameras were for people with real friends and family ties to document their travels and antics. Maybe you’re trying and failing to find meaning where it will never exist. They are correct. You aren’t just not entitled to any amount of fame, fame isnt awarded fairly and you might just be denied it even if you’re just as bad as, or better than everyone else.

Its time to grow up and live a real life instead of dreaming about being a rockstar anon. Social media made it possible fora little while yes, but those days are gone. You have to just be normal now.

>>4460655
Stop projecting and take your meds.

>>4460656
Not an argument loser bro. Chang destroyed you.
>Do photography to enjoy yourself and enhance real life relationships
>REEE PHOTOGRAPHY IS FOR COMMUNICATION SO I NEED EXPOSURE! I NEED A BIGGER AUDIENCE! I NEED PEOPLE TO KNOW MY NAME! NOT BEING BIG IS A SAD COPE!
Your entire attitude is pathetic, toxic, and when you think about it, fundamentally american.

>I cant be social media famous? so photography is dead
I wonder what photography was back when you literally had to suck the president’s dick to be a famous photographer

Oddly, more lively and genuinely artist than ever. And the photos that weren’t famous were better too.

>>4460659
Bro photography is literally going to die if getting famous isnt an attainable dream (lmao)

>>4460652
>i bet you're either american, or a shittier american like a brit
Not even close.
>infantile cope, pathetic even
You got so buttblasted you had to use my own description of your sad flailing about. Haha.
>oh no
>i will never be published and if i will be i will get less than 1000 views
>my life is pointless, pathetic, and a sad cope
What weird strawman is this? Where did I say that even once? Is this what the kids call projection maybe?
>god, please let americans and their shitty culture of temporarily embarrassed celebrities and millionaires die in a shit colored flood
Meds. Americans seem to live rent free in your head. You seem mildly schizophrenic with how wildly off course you are getting in reply to a pretty straight forward reply to you.

>>4460640
>>4460652
>>4460653
>>4460655
>>4460659
Meds. Seriously...

>>4460666
He btfo you

All chang said was to live a reasonable life instead of insisting upon "making it" with widespread recognition, and you said that if thats an unreasonable demand for a rando photography is going to die lmao. You are so retarded.

>>4460669
>crying in ESL
Meds.

>>4460668
>seething because people dont like the failing fascist dictatorships culture
I mean america did invent social media and the modern celebrity, so, chang is on the nose. They probably had three wumao write that one.

>>4460670
ESL is a compliment now that farcical hitler is in power but sadly i am american

You unironically said photography is going to die if you cant get semi-famous off insta. Lmao. You are such a

>>4460671
>Akeem, why don't you take your meds? The doctor said they would help. Also can you clean your bedroom? It really smells in here.
Please, for your mother's sake: meds.

>>4460672
>You unironically said photography is going to die if you cant get semi-famous off insta. Lmao. You are such a
Brother, seriously: meds. And I think you are mixing up the posters you are replying to... Take it easy, man.

>>4460673
Not an argument

>>4460674
Not an argument

Chang btfo you. You could make real friends through photography but you’re all THE INTERNET IS BORED OF PHOTOGRAPHY OMG US ARTISTS HAVE IT SO TOUGH. ITS OVER FOR PHOTOS. lmao. pathetic.

>>4458643 (OP)
All that whining just to end it by telling us you’re a fucking retard who looks directly at the sun sometimes.

>>4460675
lil bro having a meltdown itt fr

>>4460675
Who is this "Chang"? You seem very obsessed with him. And Americans. Let me guess you are on /pol/ a lot?

>>4460675
Unironically take your medication

>>4460675
i think this guy offed himself. hope ur happy /p/

>>4459366
strangely enough you managed to out-faggot OP and the bar was quite low already, gratz