Thread 508071475

Why do cummunists think prostitution is a genuine form of labor?

>>508071475 (OP)
Because most sex prostitute's clients are men and they think of men as the lowest creatures on earth.

that's a new phenomenon, both Stalin and Mao fought and criminalized prostitution

>>508071475 (OP)
Communism is no longer a working class movement, but a movement for social rejects

>>508071475 (OP)
They work to produce hot sticky loads

Landlording isn't labor, and I'm a landlord btw

>>508071475 (OP)
A landlord rents out accommodation.

A pimp rents out his whores.

I hope whoever wrote that didn't tell her handler he's not doing a real job.

being a landlord isn't a job and neither is a stock broker or a venture capitalist

>>508071475 (OP)
Because they’re extremely lazy while at the same time having no morality whatsoever. Under this paradigm selling your holes is appealing because it’s the lowest effort way to make a couple hundred dollars in an hour

>>508072381
lost

>>508071475 (OP)
Marx was opposed to prostitution.

Most (all?) Marxist states hold prostitution to be illegal.

Not sure what picrel is on about. Being a landlord might be evil and oppressive, but it's still hard work.

t. someone who knows landlords and works in real estate

>>508071475 (OP)
western communists would be in a fucking mine in an actual communist country. start there.

>>508071475 (OP)
So does this mean they pay real taxes?

>>508071475 (OP)
That abomination is not wrong.

Real prostitution is real work, they're literally doing gods work for lonely men. Infinitely better that wasting money on a therapist or some gay shit just to cope. They're like firefighters, actual public servants.

>>508071475 (OP)
Building a home is real work which is the prerequisite to rent out a home.
Go build your own home then.

>>508072671
>building a home is a prerequisite to rent out a home
lol

>>508071475 (OP)
prostitution is a genuine form of labor. they provide a valuable function to society. that doesn't mean they should be revered but it is true. brothels have always been fixtures.

>>508071475 (OP)
"People" who invented and advocate cumjewnism made their living by pimping

>>508071475 (OP)
Avlccording to marx, prostitutes are lumpenprole. Basically on the same level as beggars and criminals. He did not think that they could be part of the proletariat be cause they were essentially reactionary and would support any political agenda that benefited them.

But he did point out that landlords essentially make money for doing nothing and have no justification for ownership

>>508071475 (OP)
Communism is just nigger and faggot shit mixed with some vague, half-baked notion that everyone would get unlimited free shit forever if they were in charge.

>>508071475 (OP)
"Real work" is for suckers, literally in this case kek.

>>508072796
Karl Marx should have been tortured in public for as long as possible and then put in solitary confinement on the brink of starvation for as long as possible and then murdered in the most drawn out, humiliating, and painful way the most sadistic person to ever exist could imagine.

>>508072258
>both Stalin and Mao fought and criminalized prostitution
Then why did they open so many state run brothels?

>>508072258
So did Fidel who stopped Havana from being an open air brothel for the jewish/wop mob.

>>508072796
>have no justification for ownership
The justification comes from the fact you buy a house or homestead, retard. Nobody is forcing you to rent.

>>508071475 (OP)
>The renter is immunised against all responsiblity: One may call him a scrounger, waster, benniemong, poorfag, it all runs off him like water off a splashback. But call him a rentcuck and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "My rent is due!"

>>508072707
>buying a home is real work, assuming you worked to earn that money
>buying a home with inherited money is real work, assuming your parents or grandparents worked to earn that money
>okay, someone worked for that money along the line

Whores don't pay taxes, therefore it's not real work.

>>508073402
Fidel invited Epstein to Cuba, retard. Cuba is a hub for child sex trafficking.

>>508071475 (OP)
a blow job is still a job

>>508071475 (OP)
They don't. Feminists are split on this issue. It's just that whores are really loud and think that if everyone agrees that being a whore is a-ok then it becomes such. Tiktok woman logic.

>>508071475 (OP)
Because their ideology's true purpose is the degradation and destruction of society.

>>508071475 (OP)
Because labor (as in, wage labor) is selling your body by the hour.

>>508071475 (OP)
Seize the means of reproduction!

>>508072548
Yeah, literally everyone in the USSR worked in mines and gulags. There were no authors, painters, musicians, or filmmakers at all.

Fucking retarded conservative

>>508073442
Billionaires don't pay taxes as well so....

>>508073412
So, how did the person who sold you the house gain the right to own the house before you? Essentially he claimed it with a gun/ force but "might makes right" isn't exactly a great argument (see: platos republic)
Locke tried to argue that you deserve land because you labor it, but what happens when you stop laboring your land? It's up for grabs? You start developing kinda random rules around ownership and labor but there is no clear reason behind them because laboring as a right for ownership doesn't really make sense. Rather, your right to land ownership isn't enjoy your right to own, but your right to exclude others.

>>508073689
>muh USSR
I'm sure you, westoid armchair commie, knows soooo much about it.

>>508071475 (OP)
Prostitution really is more respectable than being a landlord. Atleast prostitues contribute something to society. Landlords just rape everyone they interact with.

>>508073739
Because they pay taxes on it, you communist retard. Nobody cares about your pseud non-sense.

>>508073728
Well they're whores to the jews so...

>>508071475 (OP)
They don’t, they just hate God and worship the profane because they’re full of jealousy, resentment, and hatred because they’re weak and gay.

>>508073760
More than MIGAtards for sure

>>508073806
Bot answer lol
Btw prostitutes do pay taxes

>>508071475 (OP)
I have faggot fatigue.

>>508071475 (OP)
>danger hair
Every single time, like clockwork.

>>508073728
>billionaires don't work
Yes, we know.

>>508071475 (OP)
You sell your body, skills and pride for a few bills. All labour is equal in capitalism(aka worthless).

>Themperor
I want to throw this faggot off a roof

>>508071475 (OP)
Because a white woman's idea of, "sex" is laying on her back while some dude does all the work, but then again that is the white woman's entire idea of life in general truth be told.

>>508072671
No houses just appear out of thin air

>>508071475 (OP)
Because it is, and it fucking sucks - it's exhausting, degrading and overall very unpleasant. Whores are broken people, as are pornstars, because getting fucked day in and day out and being thrown out once you grow old is hard on the psyche. Prostitution should be banned and whores should be sent into reeducation camps to learn an actual craft. It'll be better for everyone, them included.

>>508071475 (OP)
Labor can be anything that creates value for the end user.
Creating memes online is also a form of labor which creates value for the viewers as well as the creator in terms of popularity and it can even generate revenue.

>>508072287
some might call it communism but it is in no way communism. you're right that the dregs are all in a big club of leftwing degeneracy in order to not feel excluded, but they are not commies at all.

>>508074009
Nice pronouns pinapple dutch

>>508072951
You have a very intresting definition of communism, very few communists would agree with you. You know the main maxim of the Soviet state - "Those who don't work don't get to eat"?

>>508071475 (OP)
These cunts don’t actually even suck and fuck
They sell pics to simps and may some dirty underwear
Gtfoh

>>508073800
I mean, you paying taxes on your land is the same logic the Soviet Union used for your right to your land too?
But you're right. No one cares, which is kinda a shame. We live in a society that actively despises thinking things through.

>>508072258
Imagine believing this

Things that grow pie = real work
Things that change slice size = not real work

(1/2)

Sex works is like giving massage to your penis

Being a landlord is just collecting taxes and not letting people gain money for own

>>508071475 (OP)
Because it is. Landlords do not do anything.

Have sex incel.

>>508072671
>Go build your own home then.
>decide to do just that
>Some kiked fag comes up with a bunch of regulation nonsense to prevent you from doing just that
>Only him and his kike friends get to have property while youre forced to rent one of his apartments

>>508074491
Neither are then real work but i rate prostitutes over landlords as the landlords momopoly of land bequeaths prostitutes

>>508071475 (OP)
I always found it strange that leftists support prostitution and e-whoring for money. The main idea is that someone is entitled to sexual gratification through a transaction. Which is completely antithetical to any leftist philosophy under normal circumstances.

Which leads me to believe that western liberals have perverted the ideology to such an extent that it can only be surmised as, "If it benefits ME, it's okay."

>>508074369
> Here you go, goy. You busted your back working 15 hours, good job, you earned that bread stick and small glass of water. You get just as much as the man who only worked 6 hours, because fair is fair. OYYYYY VEYYYY

>>508071475 (OP)
Why wouldn't it be?
Labor is just selling your body. A whore does more than a grocery store clerk to qualify.

>>508074225
>Because it is, and it fucking sucks - it's exhausting, degrading and overall very unpleasant.
So do plumbing, sewers and garbage disposable work.
BTW this is why communism is impossible, nobody would be doing these jobs and society would collapse drowning in waste..
>sorry I majored as Thinker, not garbage man

>>508071475 (OP)
communists don't own anything so they don't understand the idea of renting your property for money. sex is just something that people like to do and women can make easy money from doing it, and we all know you can't accuse women of doing anything wrong or immoral.

>>508074931
Most labor is not dignified nor skilled nor enjoyed. Prostitution can be empowering but for many I'm sure it's just the same as warehouse work only that option isn't afforded to them because of migrants or the attributes of their sex or discrimination
Male prostitutes exist.

>>508075112
>sex is just something that people like to do and women can make easy money from doing it
Words straight outta the devils mouth. "get thet bag" no matter the cost to personal dignity and well-being, eh buddy?

>>508071475 (OP)
>Why do cummunists think prostitution is a genuine form of labor?
Capitalists understand that prostitution is a real job.

>>508074417
>I mean, you paying taxes on your land is the same logic the Soviet Union used for your right to your land too?
Like every civilization, in history, retard? Even the Soviet Union couldn't ignore the laws that govern the real world. What is your point?

>>508071475 (OP)
do they issue an invoice?

>I bust a nut what do you mean they didn't enjoy it as much as I did
rapist mentality, nigger brained

>>508071475 (OP)
Anyone who creates some value in a society and receives payment for their service has a job. Reality is many men aren't fit for a wife and many men dont want one. If you are fit for a wife and want a wife youll eventually find one, you may have to make compromises along the way and she will too. After all, youre a 4chan user.

Men who aren't for a wife still have carnal physical needs(fucking). Men who dont fuck, socialize or interact with women are bad for society and generally unhappy. Sex workers satisfy a need. While you may be ashamed youre turning to sex work to satisfy said needs, a young business woman is still out there satisfying your need. Creating value. This is evidenced by the fact that they make and spend money.

Sex workers do more for this world than 80% of people in finance, sales, or management. Other than engineers, tradesmen, service people, and medical professionals sex workers are among the most important merchants on earth. They should be classified as social workers. Social workers who abuse their bodies similarly to your skilled tradesmen of the world.

OP. How have you created value today?

You absolute incel ass pussy fucking(not literally) stupid punk bitch nonce.

>>508073442
You've got it backward:
it's not yet taxed because it still needs to be codified as real work

>>508074931
>So do plumbing, sewers and garbage disposable work.
>BTW this is why communism is impossible, nobody would be doing these jobs and society would collapse
these jobs only exist because people spend their whole day at work and don't have time to work on their own communities
people are perfectly motivated to do their own plumbing, and communities are perfectly motivated to take care of their own infrastructure but lack the time and social cohesion to do so

The real question is why do Communists think they're humans

>>508071475 (OP)
>sex work is real work unlike being a landlord
But you're renting out your pussy? It's the same sort of work.

>>508075454
>The average person can manage a city's sewage, plumbing, and garbage disposable
No they can't you retard, that's why the government pays for it

>>508075415
Sounds like commie mumbo jumbo ideology that DEMANDS a shithole world where everything is spiritually dead and cynical to extreme levels to function. I don't want any part of it.

>>508075454
>people are perfectly motivated to do their own plumbing, and communities are perfectly motivated to take care of their own infrastructure but lack the time and social cohesion to do so
As Thinker I am totally motivated for you to do my plumbing, thank you very much (we both would be paid the same under Communism BTW).
Now, chop chop, start digging, job doesn't wait.

>>508071475 (OP)
>ok if it's just normal work we can order all female employees in any job to do it. Women must suck cock on command for their managers.
>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT! THAT IS SEXUAL EXPLOITATION! CALL HR!

>>508072287
Communism was never a working class movement

>>508075549
>city
yeah no shit, bug hives are inherently inhuman and rely on inhuman systems

>>508075678
saying that doesn't fly in an actual community, imagine flexing your own inhumanity as an argument

>>508073426
assuming nothing. either the landlord built that home or he directly or indirectly paid the people who built that home.
how he got the money is none of your business. without the rent nobody would build fucking homes for other people, including deadbeats who hate landlords

>>508072707
homes grow on tree. got it.

>>508075616
Anhero then. Its a grim world but you can leave at any time. Im just telling you the truth. What is your job? Justify to me why your job has any more meaning that a sex workers? Im a welder/bartender myself and I still see the need. Also. Im a capitalist.

>>508071475 (OP)
Simply Red tranny profile pic sucks dick for meth. Opinion is invalid.

>>508075791
Most people live in cities, dumb fuck, and rural areas are dependent on them for taxes.
Jesus, you are stupid child, and have no idea how the world works. Its no wonder communist societies collapse into anarchy and destruction. Retards like you actually think plumbing, sewage work, and trash collection should optional.

>>508074562
makes it difficult, doesn't prevent you.
and you seriously have a problem with requiring heat protection for houses?

>>508075791
>saying that doesn't fly in an actual community,
And what are you gonna do under communism to stop such, dirty boy?

>>508075967
no that was just an example

>>508075207
>>508075415
Prostitution is not the same thing as warehouse work, or sanitation work. If you think so, then what's stopping you from opening your ass for a few bucks?

Sex and sexuality has always had a special cut-out in human interactions. Even if done casually, they still do it privately, and if done publicly it's because it's a kink (they get off on the taboo).

You can't get away from that fact. Yes, plumbing and shit sweeper can be demeaning and hard psychological work. But, these jobs are not done because the plumber got a swirly when he was 8 years old. Allowing someone to enter you for a transaction of value has a prerequisite. Usually these people have already been abused when they were younger or forced into it (by a pimp). This usually allows them to preform these acts, because they want the past abuse just be a 'theft of services' as oppose to sexual assault or rape.

So no. Grinding things down to just mere functions and economic transactions doesn't work for the average person who has that special cut-out for sex in their psyche. Prostitutes are exclusively broken people.

>>508076064
I agree that the amount of red tape in Germany is crazy.

>>508071475 (OP)
Suck a dick to completion and get back to us

>>508071475 (OP)
They are twisted into a vile form by worshiping being a loser.

>>508071475 (OP)
they sell their property over and over again
just like a landlord

>>508075833
I'm a parasite to this rotten world. I will suck it for sustenance as long as I need to before making MY world once it's dry. If I die on the path so be it. I fucking lived, unlike you cowards, who suckle at the teet like good goys without a thought of an alternative.

>>508076102
Because my welding jobs or whiskey knowledge is worth more than my ass. Also. Its more comfortable. Implying sex work is easy... I've fucked people's wives for money, its exhausting and frankly my heart isnt in it. I like metal work, I like beverages.

Seething rentoids.

>>508071475 (OP)
How is letting guys fuck you more "real work" than maintaining properties and providing people with a place to live in accordance with stringent regulations and standards?

>>508071475 (OP)
>cummunists
From each according to her ability, to each according to his needs

>>508072671
Too bad landlords didn't build their houses

>>508076102
>Yes, plumbing and shit sweeper can be demeaning and hard psychological work. But, these jobs are not done because the plumber got a swirly when he was 8 years old.
Anon no would be digging in shit if they could pay off their living expenses other way.
See my example of communism. If everyone are paid same UBI (aka communism) nobody would be doing plumbers and sewers. It's literally society puts people under duress "start digging shit or die on the streets from hunger" to force them do these undignified jobs. Nobody pays attention to such oppression because its men who do it. It's ok to oppress men.

Usury is a sin because it's a rentseeking behavior. Landlording is thus also a sin.

>>508072258
They use it during the demoralization stage. Once normalcy has been achieved then the homosexuals are no longer needed or wanted.

>>508074562
literally clown world when you look from above

>>508076198
I fuck and suck too. I built a forge last month, watch cool movies, take my girlfriend canoeing. I am living my truth and my truth is I like beverages, chilling out and building cool shit. I am ready for the alternative, I have my gear ready to bug out if my chickens and garden fail. I am simply not going to waste my short life hopelessly trying to bend the world to an imaginary bullshit morality code. Yes it sucks. Its unideal. Boo fucking hoo. Start to enjoy it before that choice is gone.

Im going to guess you aren't even in the workforce. You're in college or a neet.

>>508071475 (OP)
>value me because I sell my dirty hole sold to scum of the earth
If this statement can be applied to both landlords and whores then, inshalla, it is the day of the shoe

>>508075830
landlords dont charge to use houses, homes are irrelevant. The land that they have an indefinite claim on for no justifiable reason other than they have the power of the state to kill people who try to say otherwise

>>508075898
not gonna engage with somebody who uses personal insults

>>508076030
if you're an unlikeable person you aren't entitled to labor from other people, people would simply not help you in any way. as it stands such unlikeable people are allowed to exist in society because
1) the state guarantees their ability to be unlikable through arbitrary "human rights" laws
2) societies are so atomized, people dont actually have communities and exist as economic units

>>508076102
Also. News flash. Not every sex workers got there through trauma. I know a lawyer who basically volunteers her ability to practice law working for a non profit to advocate for people's housing rights. She does sex work because its fun and lucrative. She brings more value to this world than you ever could.

>>508076460
My truth is to humiliate my enemies. All your nice things yet you still slave. Not a freeman, just a dime a dozen consumer that lucked out with a good spawn point.

>twitter bio: 24yo was/were | mental illness | mental illness | mental illness | mental illness | palestine flag emoji
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>neon dyed hair
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>dog shit anti white takes
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>colostomy bag from shoving chinese plastic dildoes up your ass
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>jewish
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>seething at people who own their own land
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yep, it’s tranny time

>>508076182
this
it's a scam they sell the same product to any number of people how is this allowed

>>508071475 (OP)
Being a Landlord isn't a job, but try and find a non retiree who's sole income is being a landlord.

>>508071475 (OP)
neither is real work. One is lazy boomer kikery and the other is just being a whore

>>508076198
>>508076460

Continued...

Its time to start living. Wake the fuck up. I dont even see hookers and im here advocating for them because I know damn well they work harder and spend more than you. They are better for the economy and society than you. Being a good landlord is not easy. They curate the community, provide a very important service... but there are plenty of slumlords in America who are worse than the sleeziest low down hooker you could imagine.

>>508076215
I didn't say it was easy. I'm sure it's psychologically draining as well as physically.
What I'm saying is that prostitutes are broken people because that special cut-out for sex in their psyche was crushed, either by being forced by a pimp, or being abused.

Something in them is destroyed when that sex cut-out is crushed in their psyche. It's like that barrier is lifted and they see sex as a transactional thing. Maybe to downplay what happened to them in the past as just a transactional theft. In my opinion, that's the case.

Did you know that about 25% of rape victims become prostitutes after their rape? Or that 70% of abused minors turn to prostitution at some point in their lives? You think that's just a coincidence?


>>508076605
Sex work is not posting raunchy pictures online. I hate that online-ewhores have co-opted the term. I am talking about actual physical touch sex work.

Showing your pussy online is miles different from an actual prostitute on the streets.

>>508076630
I ain't your enemy pal.

We all lucked out with good spawn points. Youre in Canada on a computer. If you fuck up that spawn point your ancestors will shake their heads for a millenia

>>508076556
>if you're an unlikeable person you aren't entitled to labor from other people
Find me any " unlikeable persons aren't entitled to labor from other people" in any definition of Communism.

>>508076926
>muh economy
I'm not part of your cult, bro.

>>508071475 (OP)
It is but so is being a landlord.
They're fucking retarded low IQ morons incapable of logical deduction.

>>508071475 (OP)
It will never stop being funny that this typical leftist bullshit slogan led to Germany deciding that women had to accept jobs in brothels or lose their unemployment checks.

>>508077034
Lol. Those percentages are entirely made up. Something is destroyed in you as well. You value sex so much you spend all night making threads about your fear that other people are engaging in it in a way you dont deem proper.

Most prostitutes aren't on the street. They hang out in their apartment with their cat ordering take out, working out and playing video games until a client calls.

>>508077077
And what do you do with that spawn point? You hedonize and enjoy the "good life" within the system. I seek to destroy that system because it pissed me off for a multitude of reasons that should be obvious even the newest newfag lurker to this board.

>>508072258
Neither Stalin nor Mao were communists.

>>508072441
Being a landlord isn’t work in PRINCIPLE, but of course many landlords also do actual work as maintenance workers. That muddies the waters. If you make your money by right of ownership, you’re a parasite. There are absolutely landlords who hire property management companies and maintenance teams to do the ACTUAL work of tending to their properties and then just collect the checks; that is the essence of landlordism and it is not a job, it is bloodsucking.

If you’re a small-scale landlord and you’re out there fixing busted sinks and leaky roofs, you’re definitely doing work, you just have an exploitative way of charging people for your services.

>>508077105
Maybe look up what a commune is

Capitalism is the system where unlikeable people are entitled to the labor of others because they hold arbitrary units of currency and the means of production, whatever critique you have of communism already exists.

And no people are not engaging in voluntary labor when they are born without any entitlement to the means of production within their own community or country

>>508077105
Who’s gonna do work for someone they fucking hate?

>>508072427
/thread.
Advanced Aussie Cerebral Shitposting Award.
That was a fucking knife.
I kneel.

>>508074225
>oh no, my work is so exhausting and degrading, woe is me
>I'm still going to do it, though

>>508077507
>If you make your money by right of ownership, you’re a parasite.
It's not, you're lending out an asset for revenue. Is a car hire parasitism? Tool hire? No the problem is speculation has driven house prices too high for the people renting to establish savings to buy their own place.

>>508073879
The only tax your mother pays is your allowance money.

>>508077518
>Capitalism is the system where unlikeable people are entitled to the labor of others because they hold arbitrary units of currency and the means of production, whatever critique you have of communism already exists.

>I don't like you and you aren't entitled fro my labor
>communists: not like this no! Quick, send death squads to confiscate his grain!

>>508077239
lmao. "But how does this affect you personally?"

It affects me because I have to live in the same world as they do. And I don't like the idea that instead of helping reconcile their past, they are just encouraged (widely by niggers like you) to continue living their degenerate lives as an affect of their trauma.


Anyways, here's the sources. Not like you would look at them. Nigger.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0145213481900508
https://pcar.org/sites/default/files/pages-pdf/the_intersection_between_prostitution_and_sexual_violence.pdf

>>508077725
>It's not, you're lending out an asset for revenue. Is a car hire parasitism? Tool hire?
Kind of? A case could be made for it, though I don’t think anyone is that bothered by it
>No the problem is speculation has driven house prices too high for the people renting to establish savings to buy their own place.
I guess also this.

It’s exploitative to charge people money for access to something they have no means of acquiring themselves. Especially so with land; you didn’t make the land. Nobody made the land. They just put a fence around it and said “this is mine now”. When push comes to shove, I can make a hammer, so paying to rent one is a choice I make to save my labor. I can’t make a plot of land. All of the land is already owned. The people who own the land don’t contribute, they just extract rents by virtue of having the legal right to say “mine”

>>508077805
do you really wanna compare the evilness of a specific instance of the soviet union (which marx never played a part in) to every single evil deed done in favor of pursuing wealth?

>>508071475 (OP)
Communism is supported by feminism.

>>508078163
The Soviet Union was a shithole and I’d love to go back to “I told you about states bro” posting. But I do think this is a fair point. If socialism/communism has to take the fall for everything Stalin and Mao did, capitalism has to take the fall for every crooked kike scheme. Only fair.

>>508078163
>evilness of a specific instance of the soviet union
Evilness?
Did I miss something?
When did communists deanounce confiscation of other people property for their commie state needs?
Every time Holodomor mentioned here Russian commies crawl out of the woodwork foaming at their mouths screeching that peasants deserved food confiscations.

>>508071475 (OP)
We don't. It's a fact of life that alot of women with no other opportunities will engage in, in one form or the other either for a straight cash for sex basis or just dating a rich guy and fucking him for slow long term gains but it's not something worthy of celebration or that should be brought to the light in any society.

>>508078163
>Marx never played a part in
Most people aren't stupid enough to believe Stalin, Lenin, Mao, and Pol Pot etc weren't genuine communists
>>508078252
Marxists can't even define "capitalism"

>>508071475 (OP)
.Why do cummunists think prostitution is a genuine form of labor?
because it is. Those women aren't fucking you because they're in love, unless of course being in love with currency counts.

>>508071475 (OP)
It destroys the family unit.
Men that would start a family are sexually satisfied for a small amount of money.

>>508077518
Communism is the idea if you kill and steal from enough people, equality will emerge
Capitalism is the idea your labor is worth something, someone will pay for it
You're just mad nobody on the market values you because you're generally a useless person with no real skills

It also leads to bastard children raise mostly by the state.

>>508071475 (OP)
Jewish subversion
They think a workers utopia will have a need for prostitutes so they don’t have to work in a factory

>>508077518
>And no people are not engaging in voluntary labor when they are born without any entitlement to the means of production within their own community or country
This just makes it sound you're angry work is a biological requirement for life, and it comes off as really retarded. Even in the Soviet Union, you were forced to work or shot.

>>508079572
>Most people aren't stupid enough to believe Stalin, Lenin, Mao, and Pol Pot etc weren't genuine communists
Most communists aren't advocating for recreating the exact historical soviet union
Capitalism has already "won" yet most young people are actually pretty miserable living in atomized societies working jobs that feel and likely are meaningless. There's no capitalist solution because the entire system is based off greed. It's pretty telling where your argument isn't "look how great capitalism is", instead it's "look how bad these corrupt countries were in the past (which are now all capitalist and still corrupt shitholes)

>>508079440
>communism is when people have their food confiscated by the state
if you want to believe thats my argument then good riddance, no point engaging in bad faith debate

>>508080218
The joke of communism is you can do it whenever you want.
yes there is a capitalistic federal authority which you have to deal with but what stops you from buying land and starting a commune?
Nothing.
It just doesn't work because people who become successful on the commune leave to have their success actually be rewarded.
They don't want to stay on the commune and trade their superior products for crappy bread.

>>508072287
Thats literally what Leninism is
Give power to those at the very bottom of the social hierarchy because then they will obey you as to not be kicked back down to the bottom

>>508080218
>Most communists aren't advocating for recreating the exact historical soviet union
Most countries worship the USSR and the people I listed, so, this isn't true.
>Capitalism has already "won" yet most young people are actually pretty miserable living in atomized societies working jobs that feel and likely are meaningless.
Your personal mental illness is not generalized, dude.

>>508080218
>Most communists aren't advocating for recreating the exact historical soviet union
Considering the most popular form of communism is Stalinism aka Marxism-Leninism, so this is totally false, and you make your case look even worse when you tell the most obvious lies dude
>Capitalism has already "won" yet most young people are actually pretty miserable living in atomized societies working jobs that feel and likely are meaningless.
dude you're clearly mentally ill, and should see a therapist

Isn’t sex work just being a landlord over your own body? Letting people use it for a fee?

>>508080177
>This just makes it sound you're angry work is a biological requirement for life
Yep work sucks, so lets work so everyone has to do as little work as possible and the work that is required is as dignified and voluntary as possible instead of just letting society be dictated by inhuman capital and capitalists.

This argument made sense when the world wasn't as technologically advanced. Yet despite all the technological advancement, people are still expected to work 10+ hour days in many industries. In fact families are working more now that mothers are required to wage slave as well just to make rent/mortgage payments, capitalism isn't going to magically yield a utopia otherwise it would have already manifested by now.


>>508080396
>just buy land bro
Most farmers dont even own their land, but sure let me acquire a multi million dollar plus parcel of arable land for my commune, very realistic suggestion

>>508071475 (OP)
The irony is sex work is extremely hierarchical and the communal ownership of it's production impossible because of the nature of prostitutes.

Like imagine trying to convince a ho to share her profits with fat neets and trannies.

>>508071475 (OP)
no different than a masseuse or a barber, they provide a much needed service.
unfortunately their services will soon no longer be required, they have about 2-3 years left to capitalize on their genitalia.

>>508075415
Post tits

God damn some of the puritanical incels in this shithole are retarded. Most whores -the vast majority- who aren't pimped or trafficked women really ENJOY being whores. They get high from just counting the moneh

Prostitutes are vaginalords?

>>508079572
>Marxists can't even define "capitalism"
That doesn't make sense, Marx literally invented the word "capitalism", the definition is whatever he said it was. Incidentally, capitalism is a socioeconomic system wherein power belongs to those who have capital, which they use to accrue more capital (and thus, more power). This is an important distinction from earlier land-based socioeconomic power structures as it suggests that it is access to wealth/the means of production in general that gives one power, rather than simply having control over real property (i.e. land).

Whatever Ayn Rand said "capitalism" means is bullshit. Ayn Rand does not have a monopoly on capitalism as a concept. Free trade is not synonymous with capitalism no matter how much she wants that to be what the word means. No nation that you would ever identify as being capitalist has ever actually had free trade.

>>508081643
>so lets work so everyone has to do as little work as possible
You can do that already. Nobody is stopping you besides your own sense of consumerism, entitlement or mental illness.

>>508071475 (OP)
It is a job. Just not a good one.

>>508083244
>That doesn't make sense, Marx literally invented the word "capitalism"
Since when are Marxists, Marx, retard?
You come off as schizo.
>, capitalism is a socioeconomic system wherein power belongs to those who have capital,
Marx did not define capitalism as this, lol. Why are you making shit up to pretend you know what you're talking about? You're proving my point exactly.

>>508083391
>Since when are Marxists, Marx, retard?
Okay, that's a fair point. I guess if you call yourself a "Marxist" but you haven't actually read Marx and don't know what he's talking about, that would be true, and it probably does apply to a lot of self-described "Marxists" who are just edgy teenagers.

>Marx did not define capitalism as this, lol
He defined the capitalist mode of production (he never actually used the "ism" suffix) as one in which the means of production were privately held by the dominant social class, and the labor force was paid a wage to utilize the means of production for the actual creation of value, with no share of ownership. His writings largely dealt with the political realities that led to this distribution of power and focused extensively on how it was the ability to restrict access to the means of production that enabled the capitalists to have the power to shape the economic structure in the way (wage labor) that most benefitted them.

It's critical to note that it wasn't specifically the "private ownership" of the means of production that was integral to Marx's critique of capitalism, it was the underlying distinction between those who owned (and controlled) the means of production and those who actually used them to produce things of social value. The primacy of wage labor and the fundamental class distinction between "owner" and "worker" was the entire point.

>>508083391
>>508083745
Also I'm not a Marxist

>>508083269
Society isn't based on work, it's based on capital and profit, which is why Marx came up with the labor theory of value. Everybody is trying to profit off of each other which has lead to everyone forgoing mutual goals in favor of selfish wealth accrual. You can't "opt-out" of capitalism.

>>508083861
The labor theory of value is just common sense and basically everyone already understood it. The concept of subjective value is a jewish pilpul designed to obscure the reality that ECONOMIC value (rather than personal value) is a measure of the work required to obtain something for oneself.

>>508075830
Nigger landlords don't build houses, developers do and developers ha e zero incentive to be landlords so they sell their new builds.

>>508081643
there are so many like-minded people it shouldn't be too difficult to even just find an old landowner to allow you to practice.
bad excuse and you know it.

>>508083822
Of course aren't you. All you're doing is copy and pasting chatgpt without any original thought or critically. You don't even have any idea what you are arguing for or arguing against.

>>508072754
>prostitution is a genuine form of labor
found the faggot... no its not

>>508084237
I'm arguing that capitalism is inherently exploitative and evil and should be done away with, and that labor is entitled to its full product and idle rentiers are a parasitic class which should be eliminated, I just don't think that communism is the correct approach to doing that. At least not fully. Free society will always have some mixture of communism and free exchange, this is what the anthropological record shows to be the way people naturally tend to self-organize, and I don't specifically advocate for the abolition of market exchange or the total social dissolution into the commune.

But because I recognize that some degree of communism is an inherent part of human nature, I get pissy when retards, whose understanding of the conceptual underpinnings of communism and socialism comes entirely from capitalist propaganda, mouth off like experts with broad mischaracterizations of it in an attempt to delegitimize it for the benefit of the jew elite.

>>508084116
This is a hoseshit argument. It's like telling an animal to go live in a zoo after destroying it's habitat

>>508083861
>Society isn't based on work
Yes, it is. Society was specifically created to allocate work after humans became sedentary. You're being retarded.
> Marx came up with the labor theory of value
But he didn't? The labor theory of value existed before Marx, and it's irrelevant. Society produces goods, and services, because on utility. Labor is simply input, and doesn't even necessarily requires humans. And value can be derived without labor. Assets like stocks, land, loans, commodities change value all the time without labor being an input.
>the concept of subjective value is a jewish
Carl Menger wasn't jewish, retard. Marx was though.

>>508084562
no you're crying because you're a domesticated cow told to go live on the prairie and you know you'll die in a week or return to the farm.

>>508084524
>I'm arguing that capitalism is inherently exploitative and evil
You're mad that life is biologically defined by the survival of the fittest, competition, and you're just trying to justify your anti-social behavior in lieu of the obvious natural, self evident and biological laws of survival you can not overcome due to genetic limitations that you obviously have.

>>508077283
>Neither Stalin nor Mao were gay communists
fify

>>508084597
>"society is based on work"
>goes on to explain a theory of value where labor is an irrelevant
tired

>>508084797
>if you don't create a breakaway civilization you're not a real communist

>>508072258
Funnily their predecessor Lenin was pro whore and died from std

>>508071475 (OP)
Work is purposeful employment of some means to some end, both of them are work.

>>508071475 (OP)
i think prostitutes and landlords are both valid work
they should work more together to make an establishment where prostitutes can service their clients!

>>508085036
Those statements aren't mutually exclusive. What is your point?

>>508085036
everyone who has tried it has failed.

>>508071475 (OP)
>Twitter caption
Kill yourself nigger

if sex work is real work then how come Harvey Weinstein is behind bars

>>508084597
>Carl Menger wasn't jewish, retard. Marx was though.
I actually don't have a specific problem with Menger's marginalist interpretation, and tend to agree that the idea that a good's utility has some inherent fixed "quantity of labor" embedded in it is not particularly helpful.

The important thing to recognize is that, even when we are discussing subjective valuation of goods and services, what we are actually measuring is labor. Labor is not an abstract quantity that can be crystallized in the form of a good, and while there may have been some economists of the day who believed that, certainly Marx did not (which is what leads to the entire Das Mudpie argument). The point is that, when you exchange one thing for another, what you are actually doing is creating a valuation of the (subjective, and personal) EFFORT required to replace the first thing with the EFFORT required to obtain the second thing some other way.

If I pay $9 for a hamburger, I am weighing the amount of effort it would require me to replace that $9 against the amount of effort it would require me to make the hamburger myself, or go obtain it someplace else.

The idea that something's economic value is directly correlated with your subjective perception of its utility IS just a scam. Economic value occurs at the nexus between demand (your subjective value) and supply (how hard it is to acquire it a different way). Gold doesn't have intrinsic value, even Menger didn't think so, he recognized that getting one additional (marginal) piece of gold was difficult and it was this labor barrier (i.e. scarcity) that helped gold act as a store of value. At the end of the day, all economic value is inherently tied to human effort, and the economy is a system for the exchange of human effort (and the products of human effort) for OTHER human effort.

>>508085281
cont. the reason this distinction is relevant in the Marxist critique is because it doesn't really matter "how much labor" is encoded in one pair of boots versus two shirts or three pumpkins. What matters is how there is a fundamental distinction between those who contribute to the social good by contributing work/effort, and those who purely consume the social good by failing to do so. If you are a landlord (in the abstract sense of the term) you are not contributing effort. You do not add value. The LAND adds value, but you are not the land. The land is not up on its hind legs demanding its fair share. You are just a guy with a piece of paper that says you own the land. If you were dead, the land would go right on being the land and doing what the land does.

So the question then becomes, what do we need you for? You aren't adding anything. Those of us who are out here working and producing value have a portion of that value siphoned off by a class of people who use power (via the concept of "ownership") to appropriate a share of the total product of the working class, even though they themselves don't actually do any fucking work

>>508084950
>You're mad that life is biologically defined by the survival of the fittest, competition, and you're just trying to justify your anti-social behavior in lieu of the obvious natural, self evident and biological laws of survival you can not overcome due to genetic limitations that you obviously have.
Human beings are social animals, we survived and dominated the planet because of our capacity to cooperate with one another. Trying to mentally reduce us to frogs or lizards is the real anti-social behavior (incidentally, you may notice "social" being in the sentence you used, how is being pro-society supposed to be "anti-social"? You're the one arguing that social norms are a spook and actually we should all just eat each other)

>>508085281
>The important thing to recognize is that, even when we are discussing subjective valuation of goods and services, what we are actually measuring is labor.
But we actually aren't, retard? All you're doing is acknowledging that humans ultimately access goods and services based on their own individual preferences. Labor is simply a means to an end. A tool. One of the reasons why central planning in the USSR failed is because central planners could not account for that. There are simply things that exist that aren't objectively quantifiable by humans and value is one of them.
>If I pay $9 for a hamburger,
This argument is just solipsistic and actually proves the point being made here. Not every single person on Earth uses the same criteria as you do to assess food. The very idea that we could use your mind to assess the value of every commodity in circulation is absurd and shows how little you understand economics. It also reinforces why your theory didn’t work out for central planners in the Soviet Union either.

All the bitching about landlords is just an extension of manchildren lashing out at mom and dad

>>508073785
found the faggot. if anything prostitution and slumlording are one and the same, where you run the asset you are whoring out to dregs of society with only superficial maitenance

>>508085594
Retarded take. The land is the fruits of labor, so you are invoking that people who work should get fruits but not eat them.

>>508071475 (OP)
I mean. It is. taking pictures of your feet once a month and making 50 mil a year is not, however

>>508085252
>What is your point?
You claimed you can simply "do the minimum amount of work" in society when work is irrelevant. In capitalism I'm not a laborer or member of a community, I'm a closer to a business who must profit off of others by a minimum amount every year lest I lose the ability to have shelter or even have the ability move around, and that amount fluctuates according to the market. Money/capital are not measures of the amount of labor its owners have done.

You're basically saying the capitalistic system workers live under accurately measures and rewards their labor, while at the same time saying their labor is irrelevant to the value they produce

Youre so close to realizing the system is inhuman and only serves the interests of the capital owners, a select group who found their way into their positions through birth rite and/or sheer luck, aka the old monarchy/aristrocracy system. Of which makes you a cuck for defending them since you're likely working class too

>>508085594
>If you are a landlord (in the abstract sense of the term) you are not contributing effort.
This argument against landlords is pretty stupid. Landlords contribute significantly to a society's tax base, which funds state functions. Arguing against landlords, the people who pay income taxes, is one of the stupidest you could do here.
>Human beings are social animals, we survived and dominated the planet because of our capacity to cooperate with one another.
There were multiple species of humans, though and we exist primarily because we killed them. We also caused the extinction events of many other non-human animals to survive. Its all in the fossil record, dude, are you crazy? This isn't really true either. More so, human history is shows existence is an endless war against all. Humans live on a planet with limited resources, and must compete to survive. That's why land and resources between societies, humans have changed hands since the beginning of human history.

>>508085961
>Not every single person on Earth uses the same criteria as you do to assess food
And they don't have to do so in order to understand that someone who doesn't work shouldn't eat. Do you see the point? HOW we value things is partially subjective, it has to be, even in a hard-line labor interpretation of value, because the amount of effort/time it takes me to accomplish something is not going to be the same as the time it takes someone else to accomplish something. What the economic system of supply and demand is doing is finding a best-fit equilibrium among different valuations of effort.

I don't think the idea that there is some subjectivity in value in any way undermines the inherent distinction between "working" and "not working", between "putting in effort" and "idle rentier". If it were true that value has nothing to do with work, there'd be no reason to be upset about the government taking your money via taxes and giving it to unemployed niggers in the form of welfare. After all, value is entirely subjective, why should it matter that they didn't do any work to earn it? Maybe they just get more value from the bike they stole than you got from them not stealing it. That's utility maximization right there.

We all know, instinctively if not academically, that economic value is just a proxy for effort. The entire Marxist argument can be reduced to "landlords are just welfare queens".

>>508086429
>You claimed you can simply "do the minimum amount of work" in society when work is irrelevant.
No I didn't? I just said labor isn't what a person uses to assess the value of goods. That isn't the same as saying society doesn't require labor, retard.
>You're basically saying the capitalistic system workers live under accurately measures and rewards their labor
Its not "capitalistic system" its humans. Humans have agency, and can assess the value of their fellow humans. Many people, for example, don't value the lives of communists like you, and don't mind if you're sent to a place like Treblinka or Auschwitz. This individual assessment is a fundamental part of nature dude. Its how we discriminate assets from liabilities. Its how we decide what we do with our lives. Humans have the ability value things however they wish.

>>508071475 (OP)
The only way they'll get laid

>>508085961
No anon is pointing out the gaping hole in the modern economy's anus.

Labor is the root of all value and the marxist straw man of this concept, still repeated by so called "economists" has been a disaster for the human race.

>>508086622
>There were multiple species of humans, though and we exist primarily because we killed them
Two-waves out of Africa is a lame and shaky biological record that mostly doesn't get challenged as much as it should for fear of being called a racist. There's way too much anthropological evidence and DNA evidence that suggests that the human species underwent gradual evolutionary change. "We killed off the Neanderthals" is bullshit, Cro-Magnons interbred with them. What we would identify as "neaderthals" don't exist anymore, and to be sure the idea that contemporary races are descended from different pre-homo-sapiens genetic lineages is bullshit, but it's also simply not possible that a single wave of cro-magnons dispersed outward and murdered every other extant hominid. For fuck's sake Neanderthal fossils have modern human mtDNA dating back to before the supposed "second wave out of Africa".

>>508071475 (OP)
True, I respect hookers more than landjews

>>508086622
>Landlords contribute significantly to a society's tax base, which funds state functions. Arguing against landlords, the people who pay income taxes, is one of the stupidest you could do here.

You know, if you tax rent you minimize inquiline inheritors who fail to upkeep the capital they maintain.

>>508086895
>I just said labor isn't what a person uses to assess the value of goods
The opportunity cost concept of value suggests that you do. It suggests pretty explicitly that for anything you acquire, you are making your decision on the basis of "what I could be doing instead of acquiring this".

There isn't any other real explanation for it. Every human subjectively values breathable air higher than almost anything in the world; you'd be dead in roughly two minutes without it. It is more essential than shelter, food, even water. Yet you would balk at the idea of paying money for it. Why? Surely, your subjective valuation of it is extremely high, it's absolutely essential for your moment-to-moment survival and well-being.

The reason, of course, is that you worked hard for your money, and all you need to do to have air to breathe is to inhale. It's everywhere. It's superabundant. It takes no effort to acquire it, so your valuation of it is near zero. When you assess the economic value of a thing, you are not assessing its subjective value to you, at least not in any kind of relevant isolation. You are assessing the opportunity cost of acquiring it; how hard would it be to get it some other way, instead of the way currently on offer? And is that difficulty gap worth the difficulty gap of acquiring the amount of resources you have to part with to get it?

>>508086895
>I just said labor isn't what a person uses to assess the value of goods
In capitalist society.
You're extrapolating the current system to a law of the universe. In capitalism a products environmental and social impact are completely obfuscated from the end stage product, then the only thing "left" is a products utility and the capital required to produce it. Meat is a good example, would people still buy conventional meat if live broadcasts of slaughterhouses and feedlots were displayed above the meat isle or would they pay more for more ethical meat? Same with child labor for things such as cobalt.

This is what the atomization in capitalism does. Peoples labor, animals wellbeing and the environment are systematically devalued to their bare utility in capitalism, despite humans possessing an inherent desire for morality. If you cannot even recognize that then I dunno what to tell you.

>>508071475 (OP)
Can we start breaking the fingers of people of people who keep misusing the term "communism" so we can be spared their stupidity?

>>508086895
Starship troopers was written by a guy who failed to please his wife anon.

It's not the
>BOOM BASED NAT SOC JUST WERKS LIBERALS!
You think it is.

It's not even nat soc, it's just latinos larping as competent bureaucrats.

>>508088596
No it will be anything basados don't like

Unless you fix basados, and you can't cause your sense of "community" doesn't include their subnormal intellects

>>508071475 (OP)
Prostitution is literally providing a service.

Landlording is buying up a limited asset and renting it out, simply because you can. This drives up the prices of homes, and lowers the quality of life for everyone in the neighbourhood, while the landlord lives on a useless farm or spends their time on holiday.

>>508077507
>$1000 a month for 1 hour of labour that the tenant could do but isn't allowed to do

>>508086792
>And they don't have to do so in order to understand that someone who doesn't work shouldn't eat.
This argument is silly, and also pretty stupid too. Babies would starve using your own logic. Again, this is why humans have to think different, and value things subjectively because their circumstances are different. Again, this of flexibility is another example of central planning, which communism requires, doesn't work. You can't adapt to different needs.
>>508087771
>In capitalist society.
No, every society does it. Even the Soviet Union did. That's why they prioritized industry to a point of causing the Holodomor dude. There is no society on Earth, that will ever exist, that doesn't subjectively value goods, people or services.
>Yet you would balk at the idea of paying money for it
Actually, this is completely stupid. This is another concept of economics you don't understand - its called time preference. People primarily pay stuff like home, food and shelter because its faster. Just like renting a home is faster than saving for a mortgage.

>>508071475 (OP)
To be fair, when the whore is bouncing on cock it does require physical labor.

>>508073395
"We must centralise the means of reproduction"

>>508087771
>environmental and social impact are completely obfuscated from the end stage product,
First of all, this is pretty delusional. Humans are well aware of what they do to the environment. They can process it with their sensory abilities dude. Like, what are you talking about? More so, Humans must alter nature to survive, and that's not something you can really change unless you want humans to just die from a lack of resources to protect some stupid trees.

>>508071475 (OP)
Prostitution should be legal. Men need to fuck. Feminism and porn has nuked masculinity - legal whores evens the playing field. Only puritans and people who wish to control others disagree

>>508071475 (OP)
Because most labor is nonsensical waste of time and resources anyway.

>>508089735
>people who wish to control others disagree
>promotes licencing sex

>>508088914
>People who buy an investment (land), with their own money, shouldn't make a profit off it
That's retarded.
>lowers the quality of life for everyone in the neighbourhood
That's also retarded because the landlord pays taxes and gives someone a home who otherwise wouldn't pay the taxes, or buy the housing on it, because they lack the funds for it. Having a tax base improves government services because you can actually pay for shit.

>>508071475 (OP)
Being a Pimp is being a SexLord

>>508087734
>The opportunity cost concept of value suggests that you do
No, opportunity cost is a measure of time. "Opportunity" literally means a moment of time.
>Every human subjectively values breathable air higher than almost anything in the world; you'd be dead in roughly two minutes without it.
Okay? Some people, like trannies, don't value their life. They tend to be communists. What is your point here? The value of one's life is pretty subjective dude. That's why assisted suicide is becoming very common places like Canada and Great Britain, despite having "excellent" universal healthcare systems. Everyone values their life differently, how stupid could you be to think otherwise when you see it all around society dude

>>508089887
home owners and renters have very different views on the types of services a government should provide.
why do you think apartment owners don't live in the apartments they own?

>>508089039
>No, every society does it. Even the Soviet Union did. That's why they prioritized industry to a point of causing the Holodomor dude. There is no society on Earth, that will ever exist, that doesn't subjectively value goods, people or services.
Sure but that's not a justification for capitalism. Lots of products and industries are illegal and their prices artificially manipulated purely out of moral purposes. Look at labor unions in your country before the capitalists moved production off-shore where there was less labor protection. Collective bargaining was like the bare necessity to prevent full fledged revolts and now it barely even exists in your country. Is that just a fact of the universe or do you simply lack class consciousness?

>First of all, this is pretty delusional. Humans are well aware of what they do to the environment. They can process it with their sensory abilities dude. Like, what are you talking about? More so, Humans must alter nature to survive, and that's not something you can really change unless you want humans to just die from a lack of resources to protect some stupid trees.
Yeah environmental destruction has nothing to do with the fact that what isn't profitable in capitalism is devalued and destroyed ala the oceans and natural habitats.

I don't even understand what you're advocating for, capitalism has already "won", go live it up since you believe it's the ideal system

>>508089864
Rape is better, but there are negative legal ramifications

>>508074931
Cleaning the sewage is unpleasant and hard. But what if you use something more than a shovel? Pumps, power tools, robots in the future? What if you get twice the paid leave and can retire 5 years earlier? Something tells me that with enough motivation people will be ready to work such a job and actually be useful unlike prostitutes.

>>508090372
and negative societal ramifications.

>>508090326
Renters and home owners think the government should provide police, sewage maintenance, garbage collection, highways, you can't be this stupid bro. They live in the same society; of course they want the same things, you dumbass.
>why do you think apartment owners don't live in the apartments
Some do, actually. But ignoring this retarded point, do you think they don't live areas that require government services that depend on a property tax base? You're dumb.

>>508071475 (OP)
faggot leftoids think they can become a woman if they just keep insisting it's true despite the fact it isn't and will never be.

>>508090702
people who live right next to each other with thin walls between them, who don't mow lawns, upkeep homes, some don't have vehicles.
they have very different priorities than homeowners.
and no, no apartment owner lives in their apartments, if they can help it.

>>508090991
>People who live right next to each other don't need police, sewage maintenance, garbage collection, highways,
How can you be this retarded, lol. There's literally no place on Earth like this bro. Cities, towns could not operate if renters and home owners had to all the stuff necessary to make society functional, retard.
They wouldn't have time to go to work or even raise their children. Or even enjoy themselves. You're dumb as fuck man.

>>508071475 (OP)
>Why do cummunists...

>>508091170
>lists the basics of what government provides
>"BTFO I WIN YA DUMB RETARD YOU'RE DUMB AS FUCK"
nice strawman landlord.
i hope a tenant shoots you in the head.

>>508072287
Which is funny because I'm pretty sure the early Soviet leaders were worried about exactly that. They didn't want to become the party of social rejects and fags. Whoops!

>>508090370
>Sure but that's not a justification for capitalism
Its pretty easy to justify capitalism when you guys only really cause famines like the Holodomor, and the fact the Soviet Union adopted NEP because even your retarded beliefs of communism don't really work in practice bro
>Collective bargaining was like the bare necessity to prevent full fledged revolt
Um, the Soviet Union did not allow strikes or have collective bargaining bro. And Unions were not very important improving the conditions of the working class. It was largely technological advancement
>Yeah environmental destruction has nothing to do with the fact that what isn't profitable
Not really, no, the USSR had environmental destruction like Aral Sea and Chernobyl. The Roman Empire wasn't capitalist either, and caused a lot of environmental destruction. Lots of it. Its a necessary part of human society to make way for our ability to live. You're pretty crazy, and think humans just be poor and die because trees should live or something. Its retarded.

>>508091965
>i hope a tenant shoots you in the head.
I wish you people did something besides larp on the internet like cuckholds. I keep seeing you losers get beat up by the police in LA.

>>508078032
Most people complaining about landlords are not talking about land and feudalism, they are taking about houses. Most people are renting buildings not empty land. Lending a house is no different than a tool or car or body.
Also most people who complain about not finding houses are complaining about not finding houses in areas desirable to them. There is near infinite land out there, but they are usually talking about apartments near the city center, etc. 90% of US communists are just lazy shits who want hand outs, so it's hard to take their cries seriously.

>>508092510
Exactly. This retards could homestead, join some shitty commune, but they're too lazy to do that.

>>508092494
I'm a home owner and recognize scum capitalists when I see them.
You're a blight on society.

>>508092989
You're just some antifa punk
nobody cares if you live or die bud

>>508093414
do better than sucking people's assets into your bank account.
you're creating burden that someone else will end up cleaning up.

>>508093761
All you do is riot and loot stores, pretty sure you're the burden bud. You even tried to kill Trump.
All I do is pay taxes and obey the law.

Rentboy doesn't like paying rent
>>508072671
>Go build your own home then

People used to do it around here all the time.
Just get your brothers or the lads together and build a house on your land.
Now you need permits and pay taxes on everything from documents to fucking sand.
It's so much bullshit to go through that no contractor bothers with affordable housing anymore, just quick renovation flips and "premium" builds

>>508077710
I say this but im an engineer

>>508071475 (OP)
Being a landlord goes one of two ways: either one that does jackshit and collects money, or has tenants that make it a full-time job and actually end up costing money, forcing to sell the property. It's about a 90-10 split. The latter is usually one that has 1-2 properties and actually does give a shit, but those people get out of the game pretty quick.

>>508071475 (OP)
Prostitution is 100x more honest than share holding.

>>508071475 (OP)
If you guys hate sex work so much why are you mad at the workers and not the clients?

>>508071475 (OP)
YES THIS. Temporarily offering your vagina up to a sweaty broke loser is exactly equal to building a rigid structure that will provide shelter and last for decades, if not centuries. NO WAIT ITS EVEN BETTER.

>>508094754
This

>>508095097
Landleeches don't build shit doe

>>508071475 (OP)
sex work is no different than being a landlord...you are renting out your pussy. you are a useless greedy cuntlord.

>>508096440
Landlords pay taxes, which build society
Whores don't

>>508096943
Renters pay those taxes.

>>508071475 (OP)
Why do OP faggots think being a landlord is a genuine form of labor?

>>508094017
Frankenstein's monster making you uncomfortable Dr.?

>>508071475 (OP)
they work hard for the money

>>508072258
It's not. You just don't understand communism. The power struggle phase consists of creating and empowering the degenerates required to destroy a working society. They support scum until in power then they kill them.

>>508075415
>>508075833
>>508076215
>>508076605
>>508077034

>Sex work
They're whores. Call them whores. Stop fucking using light hearted euphemisms or sanitized politically correct nuspeak intended to legitimize degenerate behaviors you absolutely buck broken brainwashed little faggots. Call a spade a spade.
That which we call a hoe by any other name would still belong to the streets.

You're no better than some slimy kike calling illegal aliens "displaced peoples" or "newcomers" or "the global majority", or some shitskin raping a kid being referred to by the news as a "sexual emergency".

They're whores. Call them whores. Stop fucking using light hearted euphemisms or sanitized politically correct nuspeak intendedto legitimize degenerate behaviors. Call a spade a spade.
That which we call a hoe by any other name would still belong to the streets.

You're no better than some slimy kike calling illegal aliens "displaced peoples" or "newcomers" or "the global majority", or some shitskin raping a kid being referred to by the news as a "sexual emergency".

>>508071475 (OP)
Being a landlord is real work if they actually fix shit for their tenants like plumbing or storm damage, instead of simply using their gained rent to pay off their current mortgage. A majority of renters are lazy fucks who don't even take care of basic cleaning, they tear homes apart with neglect between laziness and procrastination due to random reasons. Might be daily aches/pains that keep them from cleaning, maybe they're old as dirt and senile who knows, the fact remains that basic maintenance isn't the landlord's job. The landlord is not your keeper, your maid or your wife, they just fix major problems while you fix everything else part and parcel of living in someone else's house. A renter is basically a roommate without a roommate, no matter how you slice it the house isn't the roommate's, their name isn't on the deed so all they can do is negotiate rent cost.

>>508071475 (OP)
>Themperor Kennedy
They're turning the friggin frogs gay!

>>508100431
you hit ctrl v twice

>Why do cummunists think prostitution is a genuine form of labor?
Because it is

>>508100477
>The landlord is not your keeper, your maid or your wife
Then I owe them nothing but thanks.

>>508073785
contributing degeneracy isn't a positive contribution.
don't mistake movement for progress

>>508100580
Not the way my wife does it!
Hachachacha

>>508072427
Based emu slayer.

Communists are like this because they're broken people and they're spiteful so they want everyone else to suffer the life-long depression that is a broken household.

>>508071475 (OP)
communism is when i cum in everybody's hole at least once

>>508097977
Be honest, Anon. If you inherited an apartment building, would you let people stay there for free? Of course not. You have to pay the property tax, you have to pay for the entire building's maintenance and all legal liability for incidents on property is yours. Not to mention that you want to make money just like anybody else does. You could sell, it but then someone else would just be renting out those apartments. So be honest, what would you do with your apartment building upon inheriting it?

>>508100681
Mad Max is real now

>>508100681
isnt it warcrime?

>>508071475 (OP)
>teach someone a skill
>get paid

>make someone an item
>get paid

>dance for someone
>get paid

>coach someone at the gym
>get paid

>make someone cum
>get paid

What's the problem? I could see it being a problem before birth control, but it's performance and a service all the same.

>>508100784
I'd turn it into a brothel

>>508071475 (OP)
Because women.

>>508100840
If you don't cum, the hooker will still expect you to pay her.
>>508100858
haha cool meme! I lol'd XD

>>508100682
>communists want to get you laid
>anon calls that an act of spite and making you suffer

>communists want to get you paid
>anon calls that an act of spite and making you suffer

You're making yourself miserable.

>>508100920
Fair point.

>>508100546
Indeed. I had to reformat a lot becuase replying to more than a few people apparently trips the spam filter now becuase of mass reply spam bots and i was trying to call out a lot more people for that garbage initially. The one that finally went through i accidentally doubled pasted.

>>508072381
I'm a landowner with a natural gas tenant.
I fucking love getting money. The most I have to do is handle a few phone calls a year and read through contracts.
Communists wish they were me: it's like UBI for better humans (I am a better human being than all communists, especially tranny "sex worker" (BARF!) communists like OP's pic

> 1pbtid
sorryid support prostitutes renting their holes than landlords renting homes they don't otherwise need

>>508071475 (OP)
Prostution is one of the oldest professionals on the planet your media company of you fake protesting yourself is less than ten years old, that being said Debbie is a massive whore

>>508101038
Communists want to kill me and take my stuff just the same as any rabid capitalist caricature you can imagine. You're full of shit. Gas yourself.

>>508100573
>>508077518
>>508088596
The left Can't Meme

>>508101279
2 posts now bolshie bitch

>>508101334
>Communists want to kill me and take my stuff
This thread is about communists providing job and sex opportunities. Capitalists told you "you will own nothing and you will be happy".

>>508101610
>2 posts now bolshie bitch
Touch Grass Faggot

>>508101739
>This thread is about communists providing job and sex opportunities. Capitalists told you "you will own nothing and you will be happy".
Being a Bottom bitch is destroying Capitalism but making my pimp rich Based.

>>508088596
>the transgender commie faggot isn't a REAL communist
I'll believe it when leftists actually start disposing of faggots like stalin and che did.
Until then, own your faggot degenerates.

>>508071475 (OP)
Landlords ought to be regulated into barely existing, if at all

Sx work ought to be regulated to not exist

>>508071475 (OP)
If I could eat pussy all day and get paid I would and I would call it labor. Fuck you my jaw hurts and breathe smells like shit all the time. Sound like a working class struggle to me.

>>508100592
You owe both them and yourself basic maintenance or you lose your shelter and your deposit. I've booted people who fail to do basic cleaning/upkeep and will continue to, I don't even charge any extra for pets like 99% of other places.

>>508100662
>my wife

>>508071475 (OP)
>work must be pushing buttons on a machine!
>satisfying lonely people isn't work!
Arguably sex work can be categorized under mental health therapy
Too bad sex is still taboo in many cucked countries

Prostitutes are more fun than landlords, true.
I wonder if we can make all landlords into prostitutes.

>>508072258
In feminist communism females are the shared property of citizens.
In feminist communism females are the means of production as well as the proletariat.

>>508077518
Based anon, why all the experts replying to you are mutts will remain a mistery to me.

Bump

>>508071475 (OP)
I think prostitution is more healthy than porn, but I can see why society would push porn if they didn't want people to breed.

>>508071475 (OP)
Because, when you're mentally retarded and have no real life skills to make money with, their only option is to sell their shitty used-up tattooed bodies until they can no longer convince niggers or truckers to pay them $25 for a suck off in the back alley behind the Dollar Tree.

>>508071475 (OP)
Tell that to my Vietnam vet landlord who was up on a ladder putting up shingles. This was a few years back, before he retired and sold out to a land management company, mind. Those kikes are in fact rent-hiking parasites who should be put up against the wall.

>>508071475 (OP)
I hate these people but they are actually correct about this one particular thing. Unfortunately all their other takes are pants on head retarded. Landlords are just parasites, at least "sex work" doesn't harm a normal, functioning economy. Prostitution has always existed and acts as a sort of pressure valve for dudes who can't get pussy with charisma alone.

>>508071475 (OP)
Kek