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>>509438347 (OP)
>(you)

>>509438347 (OP)
Imagine not having a kid if you are over 30

>>509439916
I don't have to imagine and it's wonderful.

A red flag for what?

>>509439916
It is not really a choice for a man if he gets to have kids or not, it all depends on if a woman wants to have children with you. Some of us are just rejected no matter how much we might want to have families of our own.

>t. 32 years old kissless virgin

>>509438347 (OP)
My ex wife couldn't have kids so now im a creep?
Feels bad man :(

>>509439916
I actually probably have some kids out there, the lady at the chinese restaurant a couple weeks ago told me a cute lady came in with a kid who looked exactly like me. was kinda spooky but i've never gotten told i have a kid by anyone so i don't know. occasionally during a one night stand i'll cum inside a chick if she's hot

>>509438347 (OP)
>they prefer men with kids who were not responsible enough to hold a marriage, or married men who are not responsible enough to be faithful to their wife and family
I see, I see, interesting...
What causes this mentality?

>>509440520
women don't care about responsible men only attractive men who can get with multiple women.

>>509439916
Yoou act smug about this but its becoming a norm. This norm is going to lead to other norms. Get prepared for the new normal. Just dont moral fag about violence because thats cringe.

>>509438347 (OP)
Women refuse to even date 80% of Men so, how are they supposed to have kids?

>>509440270
Skill issue

>>509438347 (OP)
So is being paid to post ragebait in order to demoralize American citizens. You're hurting Americans and making America a worse place.

>>509439916
This.
Having children is the 'meaning' of life. Simple as.
>muh heckin' face isn't good enough
>muh heckin' money isnt' good enough
>muh heckin' DINK is too much fun
>muh heckin' height is too small
>muh heckin' wife sux
>muh heckin' life sucked growing up, why would I want to bring that into the whirled

guess what, faggots: your cope is a lie and seethe is not a reason to not have kids.

>t. mid-40's; 5'7"; fat; wifed up for 20+ years with two kids

also, religion is poison

>>509440520
r vs k selection, women are becoming r selective, which explains the rise in homosexuality as well

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2012.02785.x

>>509440700
Dont laugh when a hearse goes by mate.

>>509438347 (OP)
Data mining thread.

LIE ABOUT YOUR AGE
LIE ABOUT YOUR MARITAL STATUS
LIE ABOUT YOUR PROCREATION OFFSPRING
DO NOT GIVE ACCURATE INFORMATION IN JEWISH DATA COLLECTION THREADS

>im attracted to men who are taken unless they're young or have kids
infinitely larger red flag
women are retarded

>>509438347 (OP)
nah thx, i hate kids
t. 44 years old chad

>>509440780
>the meaning of life is to bring kids into this world and then leave them with having to deal with an ocean of niggers and jews raping and enslaving them for eternity

>>509440136
Bad partner

>>509439916
>do whatever I want whenever I want
>keep all my money
>have peace and quiet 24/7
This angers and confuses the Jew

>>509438347 (OP)
Indeed but anytime someone asks me why i'm a single male without kids I gave them the same answer "I got a brain tumor and i'm on the process of getting it removed, honestly I don't know if this is going to kill me or not so I rather not leave a bunch of fatherless kids on this planet and if I survive then I might be on my way to build a family".

By the way the titanium in my head will be dope.

>>509439916
pretty good.

>>509438347 (OP)
Send them to the Middle East

>>509438347 (OP)
That's fucking retarded what does she want a nigger with 10 kids?
In my 30s I was busy raising my kids from middle to high school after their mother ran off.
I didn't date because what woman is going to want to come into my house and deal with rowdy teenagers that aren't hers?
Was I prime dating material and I didn't know it? No. Women give each other such bad advice I don't know if they're not purposefully trying to sabotage each other.

>>509438347 (OP)
Maybe. I dunno. The bottom part might be true too tho. But I didn't try to get a gf or anything. I just did? Like some sloots were like "oo I wanna be with you" and sluts grossed me out when I was a teen so I told them fuck off. 1 not slut wanted to so we got together and I just stayed with her for 20 years, we had 3 kids. She's a bitch and I kinda just ignored it, lss she left ME and I was totally ready to be single again. But I got a gf somehow like a week after I totally gave up on the relationship. Didn't really want it, but not letting something slip away because I wanted to fuck around.

>>509439916
I just don’t want kids kek, this zog shithole sucks. I’ll have kids if the kikes ever fuck off.

>>509441662
My ex wife left me after she caused her own miscarriage and blamed me for it. I’m 34 and not ever doing that shit again.

>>509438347 (OP)
I’d say this true but after 40 for a man. Might as well kill yourself at that point

>>509438347 (OP)
Probably so!

>>509440620
They think 80% of men getting Thanos snapped tomorrow wouldn’t affect their life at all
This is literally how women think.

>>509440520
>what causes this mentality?

>>509440780
>t. mid-40's; 5'7"; fat; wifed up for 20+ years with two kids
Yeah was me dude. Except im only 40, im fit/thin(underweight) 3 kids. Social media convinced her she was married to a monster and she had to "escape" lmfao. She was literally a stay at home mom that screamed and yelled at me and our kids all the time. Did whatever she wanted or didn't want to do and bitched at me when I complained about her being lazy. I picked up all the slack. And she left me. Watch out dude, I thought i knew mine too.

>>509441482
Good luck

>>509441877
>40 for a man. Might as well kill yourself at that point
The largest group of people dating in the USA are people in their 60s. So you're dead wrong. Plus millennials often look a lot younger than they are. I tell people I'm 43 and they freak out and claim I look 25. I had this happen in the grocery store with the clerk, and all kinds of places.

>>509440620
by looking up the other 20% on Tinder, duh
only takes one guy to make a baby, though modern women would rather virtue signal by having an abortion instead

>>509442039
They'd start whining when the power went off and the water stopped coming etc.
But they wouldn't anticipate that being a problem until it happened. Then they'd get mad and blame the remaining 20% of men for not magically making everything work on their own.

>>509441215
Pussy. Raise kids strong enough to win. Whites were always a global minority. There's not a group of non-whites we havent had in chains.

>>509442090
Thanks, could you take care of my cats if I die?

>>509442167
Notice how it’s always a fucking Karen asking the question when it comes to immigration
“Who will pick our fruits? Who will work at the motels?”

>>509438592
This. Marrying the dumpy autistic artist from my homeschool coop had been bretty smooth the last 8 years.

>>509438347 (OP)
women have been deliberately giving younger women horrible dating advice in order to sabotage them since before you were born, OP. welcome to adulthood.

>>509438347 (OP)
Why? Because they were smart enough to not knock up some dumb whore? 100% certain a woman typed this.

>>509439916
I have been fucking bitches since i was 14 now at 28 you just reminded me that i still dont want kids i only like pussy

No point fishing in ponds where the fish never bite

>>509439916
Women are demons. Not worth being with them. I do want kids, but women cannot be trusted.

>>509438347 (OP)
>Anon, why don't you have any pictures of your wife and family in your office?
Wat do?

>>509441164
do you happen to like airports ?

>>509441795
>not ever doing that shit again.
Understandable. This girl already said she dont wanna get married. Just wants to "fall in love". 100lbs less than my ex and 7 years younger. My ex was beautiful, like her face was a 10 (didn't look fat even when she got fat) and I dont mind fat chicks at all. To a point, but my limit definitely way over most dudes. Anyway I was planning on being single but you never know what's gonna happen. Keep your head up. Both coz good stuff might come along but also to watch out for the bad stuff

im cooked bros. i just tired to click that share button. gonna go an hero.

>>509440700
>skill issue
I'm pretty sure you're the same fag from earlier today who was being a massive faggot
>skill issue


>bezos
The richest men get cheated on

>tom Brady
Gigachad GOAT QB gets cheated on

>Brad Pitt
Gigachad actor gets cheated on

There is something wrong with *you* if you're OK with modern women's behavior and think men just need to roll with it

>>509442646

Kys jeet

>>509440270
Do you actually approach anyone?

>>509442177
if your entire strategy to save the white race is cuck to women and jews so you can have kids and hope they do it for you you're just not being serious about this or caring about the future of your kids

>>509438347 (OP)
Cum dumpster wrote this

>>509438347 (OP)
>I wants tuh have a kid so bad! I gots ta save da Wyaaaaait rayce!

>>509438347 (OP)
I don’t need women, so their opinion means very little to me

>>509438347 (OP)
men and women really are not equal. Only thing that suggests equality when both genders are single at 30 with no kids is that they are both single, and even in that scenario womemes still have simps, they just don't want to settle for less becuz of hoeflation.

>Single MAN over 30 with no kids is icky and a red flag
>Single WOMAN over 30 with 4 multi-racial kids is strong, independent, empowered, trying her best.

>>509438347 (OP)
Ban all terminally online social media users.
Never listen to some fuckwit retard who has 0 accountability.

>>509441482
Get well soon brain tumor anon <3

>>509442087
Fuck man, I'm sorry.
I hope it never happens to me and I don't take for granted that it won't, and I'm so sorry it happened to you.

>>509444070
Unlike you, cletus wants to preserve something thats valuable.

>>509438347 (OP)
I am over 30 and have no kids. But it's okay because I am an anti-natalist.
> Antinatalism: A philosophical position that argues it is morally wrong to bring new individuals into existence. Essentially, proponents believe that the potential for suffering inherent in life outweighs any potential for pleasure, and therefore, it is unethical to create new beings who will experience these harms, even if they may also experience some joys.

>>509438347 (OP)
>>509439916
I am 40 and I have no woman, I have no children, I have no house, I have no friends, I have no money and live paycheck to paycheck. When will my real life begin bros? I'm tired of the grind, I'm tired of this life, just very very tired that's all.

>>509438347 (OP)
its just a reason to reject men that were alteady going to be rejected. chad can say hes a retired professional child rapist and its "oh teehee past is the past"

>>509438347 (OP)
Im not a red flag.

I havnt touched a girl in 20 years probably

>>509446947
Actually, I had sex like 15 minutes ago, I just like to come into these threads and larp as an incel lol

>>509441482
while a single women with kids over 30 is also a red flag.

I used to be violent when I was a kid, so other kids never really wanted to be around me. I think that resulted in me not really developing social skills. That resulted in me being dogshit at picking up women
I'm 34 and still a social autist and single. I can't for the life of me come up with quick witted responses or anything like that. I've got the charisma of a 2 by 4 and not quite sure how to improve it, and not really sure if I even want to improve my charisma. Maybe I could try leaning into being "quiet and mysterious" and being a good listener

>>509441377
Yeah Europeans dying out and being replaced by browns really makes Jews seethe

>>509447027
Your hands or fleshlight's don't count bro. Try harder.

>>509439916
I can't imagine having a kid. I'm 37. Been married and divorced. Had several LTRs. My brother and sister have kids, I feel like it's not for me

>>509447202
Sorry bro, you're just ugly (like 80% of men). You would get attention otherwise.
Give up, walk away from your delusions.

>>509438347 (OP)
True, i'm 35 and i really feel like i'm missing out on something very important in my life.
[spoiler]And i blame the woman i dated in my life just as much as myself for this failure in starting a family. [/spoiler]

>>509447202
Just learn to dance at a normal bar. Not the stupid social dancing shit. But seriously, it's fucking simple. The bitches will line up all day and dance with you if you look like you're having fun, smiling and laughing. That is the secret. Go on youtube and look at how to dance for dudes videos and get laid by the weekend. You're welcome!

>>509439916
You should be thanking me, the less spic on this world, the better.

>>509447764
nah i like peruvians

>>509438347 (OP)
women with opinions are a huge red flag bigger than the Soviet Union and China put together

>>509447202
just be confident being yourself talking to anyone:
>look the person in the eyes when you are talking and most importantly when you are listening
>actually listen
>think about what you want to say before you say it. not in a 'what do they want to hear' but a genuine 'do i have an actual opinion on this'
>realize your opinion is an opinion and don't go staring a bitch down with crazy eyes hoping for instant approval and blowjobs

>>509438347 (OP)
Imagine if men could give birth

>>509448007
>Look the person in the eyes when you are talking and most importantly when you are listening
I can't do this with people I've known my whole life

>>509438347 (OP)
She's angry because bachelors her age don't want her. All she is getting is fat/bald guys from broken marriages and they already have bratty kids that they don't like.
She wants to play pretend with a bachelor and have him adopt her kids.

My aunty is like this. She has 2 kids to 2 different guys and she just chases bachelors her age who want to adopt her kids so she can play pretend.

>>509440520
>>509438347 (OP)
>>509440270
Femoids can't think for themselves. They always need a comparison. They always need some relatability from other women. Like entry level job demanding work experience. A man that is good by himself? How do you know that? No, he needs to already have a woman with him, this is what makes him good and desirable because if other woman found something good in him it means that he has value.
If he has no woman with him means other women might not find him good means he has no value. Thats how women think. All you need to do is to play this shit gay ass game. Buy yourself a wedding ring. Now you can pretend you have a wife. No matter how ugly or bad you are, the other women will still want to fuck you because wedding ring means some other woman found something in you.
Never tell them that you dont have a GF. Its like when applying to a job and saying you have no job. It puts you at position of weakness. You MUST be employed (aka having a GF) to be in position of power. Just fake having a girlfriend, fake having a wife. Bitches deserve to be treated with lies if they have such retarded mentality.

>>509447458
Should have thought about that before allowing 8 billion browns become eligible residents in our nations. Also, man made horrors beyond our comprehension.

>>509440082
>I don't have to imagine and it's wonderful.
Imagine a woman saying this exact quote. Isn't your first reaction a full hearty chuckle at her obvious cope?

Same gut laugh applies when it's men saying it too

>>509438347 (OP)
It is a red flag. Means either he was so unattractive that no woman wanted to mate with him even in his prime. Or he’s a permanent ‘someday’ retard manchild who can’t handle responsibility.

>>509443035
And they're all faggots and bitches, and what? You're conflating being a billionaire or being good at sports with being a man which simply isn't the case anywhere but your hollyjew worldview.

>>509438347 (OP)

>SINGLE MEN OVER 30 WITH NO KIDS IS A RED FLAG

>>509440780
I feel like I see people seething / coping / regretting having kids way more often than I see people regret not having them. Childless people always struck me as generally more content. My aunt and uncle's only daughter was killed in a horrific car accident at 16 years old and they spent the rest of their lives as DINKs. It was actually when I heard that story and what it did to them that I decided I NEVER wanted children. It immediately struck me as a profoundly stupid decision. Also, the idea of it just isn't that interesting to me. I am not a very nurturing person by any means. I don't think I would be a capable parent at all. I'm barely able to hold a job down, let alone be fully responsible for another human life, which pales in comparison to that in terms of responsibility and generally not being lazy.

I disagree with the idea of it being the "meaning" of life, considering "meaning" is subjective and we can observe Humans creatong meaning all of the time. Rather than having kids, perhaps one could devote themselves to taking care of children in need who have already been born, as an example.

>>509438347 (OP)
This. We should deport them to El Salvador.

>>509439916
I'm over 30 and I might have at least one kid i dont know about

>>509442583
>>509439916
For most of history children were likely a consequence not the main goal.

The most terrifying thing for me about starting a family is it ending in divorce

After that you're back to being on your own, your wife probably moves on and takes your kids and you lose half your wealth while your wages are garnished. You're basically back to square one but in a far worse position

>>509450436
I wanted to add a quick addendum regarding my thoughts on human procreation. I am not a VHEMT freak or an antinatalist, but at the same time, I suspect that as a species, we are not meant to be particularly numerous. We have serious reproductive issues. Our heads are so enormous we can barely pass the birth canal under normal circumstances. A fully natural childbirth is either excruciating or deadly for human females, quite often deadly. We are, to my knowledge, the ONLY species on Earth that has birth complications anywhere near that widespread. And this is to say nothing about how we've barely even adapted to survive, and have dead zero actual survival instincts. So I think that ultimately, humans are better suited to living in small, isolated tribes, ideally separated by vast distances. I also think that it's natural for very few of us to actually reproduce, because well, it literally is and that was the reality for many thousands of years.

>>509439916
I am autistic. I will never have a child with my cursed sperm.

>>509450683
I accidentally gave an Indian woman a half white baby, but her light skin husband thinks it's his. I was 19 and she was 25. Idk how to feel knowing I have a 10 year old son running around. Sometimes I think about him..sometimes I completely forget he exists.

>>509446522
just wait until you're 60 and in the same situation.
it's really not that far away when the passing of years feels like weeks.

the older we get the more we need to be able to be around those who knew us when we were young.

>>509450436
>I feel like I see people seething / coping / regretting having kids way more often than I see people regret not having them.
To be fair, this is just people soft bragging and being nice to childless retards. It like people saying "hurr durr oh boy my job sucks I hate Mondays", when in reality people truly want jobs, having an income, and being self sufficient.

>>509439916
>31
>never had a girlfriend
>not even ugly, just a sperg
>fucking non-whites hang off me like the monkeys they are
White women are fucked in the head honestly.

>>509438347 (OP)
Both are obviously true.

>>509440520
women projecting their issues on others.

>>509438347 (OP)
L + ratio'd

>>509438347 (OP)
Kek I love how roasties think this is supposed to be a burn
>Oh no, I don't have a nagging bitching wife that sucks all the time and money out of me, it's so fucking over for me
You can notice men that are in relationships and how miserable they are

>>509450036
>you're conflating
No, you're a cock-sucking faggot.

>be you
>insist women don't like rich men
>insist women don't like handsome men at the top of their profession

If you weren't such a cum-guzzling retard you'd understand exactly my point, but you intentionally chose to be a dumbfuck.

Women will leave men no matter how many desirable traits they have. There is no such thing as a man being safe while having a wife. Any wife in America can cheat on her husband for any reason she wants and then the courts will take half his stuff and give it to her

>>509438592
Migger that data is from 1995.

>>509440958
why i have nothing to hide
>LIE ABOUT YOUR AGE
between 14 - 88
>LIE ABOUT YOUR MARITAL STATUS
polyculed
>LIE ABOUT YOUR PROCREATION OFFSPRING
lost track of baby mamas
>DO NOT GIVE ACCURATE INFORMATION IN JEWISH DATA COLLECTION THREADS
this is all completely true

I am a major red flag. Like literally everything about me.

Men are in their prime in their 30s. If anything it's the opposite because you didn't get stuck with a whore that will divorce you by age 35.
Men and women aren't equal and modern marriage is a scam.

>>509438347 (OP)
fresh eglin air force base social engineering new drop. Men vs women South Korea depopulation scheme

>>509438347 (OP)
Red flag for what?

>>509453607
Are you implying anything changed between 1995 and now? As if virgins aren't still objectively that best choice in a wife?

preselection is the dumbest thing. why would women trust other women to make good reproductive choices? all they do is complain about the shitty men they get with. even incels knew women were sharing dudes before the 'are we dating the same guy' groups popped up

>>509454534
>i dont want a man that doesnt have a degree and a home
>men bust their asses for all their 20s to get these things
>actually youre weird because youre not married yet
why do these retards choose who passes on their genes

>>509438347 (OP)
everything is a red flag, we're on a maoist chinese image board

>>509438347 (OP)
Isn't this the majority of millennial men? No one is having kids

>>509438347 (OP)
A single man over 30 with no kids is a major red flag.
A hundred men over 30 with kids is a revolution.
Long live communism!

>>509449803
I've never even once wanted to become a father at any point in my life

>>509450870
I’d argue that it’s actually the complete opposite of what you said. Bearing children used to be the foremost goal of married relationships. For probably almost all of history. Where did you get your idea from? Have you looked at how ancient cultures operated and the importance of fertility? I mean, it used to be that a woman who couldn’t bear children was literally socially ostracised.

My gf might have PCOS and might have fertility problems. I love her and she's one of the best women I have ever met, so it kind of sucks if we can't have kids together.

>>509455016
I think you're missing the point, probably cause you're not sentient.

Imagine a woman saying that exact shit. Imagine some dumb fucking bitch uttering
>I've never once wanted to become a mother at any point in my life
You would laugh at her, her fucking cat, and her wine bottle on the counter. Same thing for childless males

>>509451024

Yeah same. I'm not afraid of having kids I'm afraid of getting divorced or stuck in an unhappy marriage I only stay in out of fear of getting divorced. Women have too much power and they abuse it too often.

It's TRUE though?

If you are single with no kids over, no matter what gender you are, it means there is something wrong with you

>>509455107
IVF nigga

>>509455258
oh whoops. sorry, i tried to be normal and fit in and get a girlfriend but i guess my best wasn't good enough.

>>509439916
imagine being so stupid you'd subject another human being to this shit when you had a choice not to

>>509455222
no, I think you're just retarded. Women who say what I said are lying and coping and that's where the humor arises. I said what I said because its true.

>>509454678
>I want to marry a doctor
>Med student? No thanks

>>509443343
When the fuck did i say that? You can just give up your bloodline as if that's not the ultimate cuck to the jew. I made a bunch of white people that already hate the system. Suck my balls from the back and if your big fucking jew nose touches my asshole I will punch you in the chest.

>>509455238
Well yea thats because you are retarded. Not only have divorce rates been declining for ages now, but the old "half of mairrage end in divorce" statistic from the 70s is wildly misleading as it includes serial divorcees who go through like 5 marriages that skew the statistics


Hence The OP is right, and it is a red flag in your case. You are a retard.

>>509443241
How do you even approach people in this atomized world? I tried at grocery store the other day and was seen like a crazy person trying to initiate small talk.

Seems everyone is in their own bubble/social network and if you don’t have a bubble of your own you are just shit out of luck and can’t meet women or have friends

>>509444583
Thanks. It totally sucked and hurts, probably aways will. and I feel awful for my kids. Im onto better shit tho

>>509446522
If I end up in your position I’d just exit society and live in the woods

>>509455678
anon, why aren't you playing hockey? Go join a beer league and make some friends

>>509455678
By going to an actual social environment and not a grocery store where people are trying to mind their own business

>>509455568
Lol yah nah

Single men know the secret which is thusly:
It's actually women whom are responsible for the low birthrates.

Everyone including the elites are acting stupid because they're afraid that wealth disparity will be identified as the problem, but the real actual problem are that women don't want to be bogged down with ruining their bodies and taking care of children.

Men are staying quiet because they have no strong opinion either way, but the aware ones are watching with amusement as the elites try to ban porn and take away male hobbies and spaces knowing that ultimately the only thing that will work is curtailing women's rights in Handmaid's Tale fashion. They know it's only a matter of time before the elite go masks off and full authoritarian on women, which will cause a massive amount of butthurt for the two main groups condemning them right now.

I think that we gotta burn this mother fucker down

>>509449803
wtf women and men aren't the same?????????
@grok is this true?

>>509438347 (OP)
Red flag means shitty partner not pathetic partner

>>509455602

So what's the divorce rate with serial divorcees removed?

You think it's a good idea for a man in 2025 to sign a marriage contract?

>>509455222
men and women are not interchangeable so you're prattling on about nothing

>>509440780
Why the Hell would you have kids if you’re not Christian?

>>509455602
>and it is a red flag in your case.
Actually the only red flag in this scenario are the people calling it a red flag.
Because married couples wih children couldn't care less whether other people have children, unless it's regarding their own kids.
Meaning the only ones who are calling is a red flag are the ones that are themselves single.

And that's all before the fact that red flags cease to have meaning in atomized societies. What does a red flag even mean to a single man with no social network to begin with? Nothing. Red flags are a function of social networks.

>>509455960
They aren't. But in this case, it's true. Children takes both genders. No amount of cope will absolve you from the fact that it's as shameful as it is for a woman

>1 post by this ID

>>509440136
That a man might be happy. Women need to step in and make him miserable immediately

>>509438347 (OP)
At 31 I am one of these men. There is no quick answer as to why, but the short version is that I am single by temperament, by priority, but not by choice.

I don’t date casually because I don’t experience people lightly. If I give my attention and loyalty to someone, I want it to mean something - not just emotionally, but spiritually.

I also have an unusually focused lifestyle which allows for very few social diversions. My time is split between academic mathematics, software projects (cryptography, scheduling algorithms, low-level programming), sacred Classical music and long-form writing - I have just started a tragicomedy. Such diverse interests are part of a long-term effort to build a portfolio of original work, and possibly, a self-determined career. Most of my week is structured for depth - not frivolity and ease.

Moreover, the environments I move through - technical, academic, and sometimes religious - do not produce the kind of woman that I would be drawn to. I am not looking for a polished, plastic personality. Instead, I am attracted to women who are emotionally intense, physically expressive, grounded in instinct and care, and serious about eros and loyalty. I want affection that isn’t ashamed of itself, and I rarely see that. I live in possibly the most passionless country on Earth. Most people around me are either too passive, too trivial, or too bland to offer what I seek.

I also refuse to negotiate attraction through apps or social rituals and want a woman to whom I can speak frankly and directly, without games. That kind of rapport is rare, and I would rather wait for it than waste my time and energy on women to whom I would be poorly suited.

>>509438347 (OP)
Unmarried women over 24 are a red flag.

>>509455602
>divorce rates are declining
lol
lumfao

>>509456153
A woman without a child has something seriously wrong with her. A man without a child means he's average

>>509456063

Most people at my work don't care when they find out I'm single.

Two married guys told me they envy me.

A third married guy went into a long tirade about how his wife never has sex anymore and he's been reduced to sneaking an iPad into the bathroom and wanking off to porn and he wants to leave her but he's only staying for their kids. It was awkward because his wife also works for the company kek.

>>509438347 (OP)
I'm sorry, how is it my problem if women stuck this genetic modifying tech in their blood that makes them infertile? They made their choice and no man of wealth or money will ever touch them. They might as well kill themselves. They are worthless. Feminism already made you undesirable. Now you can't even make children. Just kill yourselves you worthless gullible fucking whores. Jews won.

>>509456396
Jesus fuck.


Id rather an_hero.
After a month of dead bedroom it honestly made me realize how useless my ex was.
Couldn't cook, clean, refused to do laundry.
Having to shoulder 100% of the burden plus baby her was acceptable, then she started not having sex with me and I lost all interest.

Couldn't work out cause "I'm getting in shape to leave her"

>>509455602
marriage rate is going down, tard. The rates in the 70s were way way better. Divorce rates are "declining" because there are less people that can be divorced in the first place. People getting married now are probably less likely to have bpd and neurosis

>>509456396
Most men are single. Even throughout history most men were single.
Even women, enough of them were single in history for there to be term for them, spinsters.
Idiots with an agenda are just trying to gaslight other idiots.

>>509456302
Based Isaac NewtonMaxxer

>>509456368
Yes
>>509455985
No shit. Be real with me for a second, are you REALLY going to be the low IQ retard who makes excuses like " I saw scary stories about feminists on 4 chan, or [insert anecdote here] therefore I will crawl in my hole and avoid life at all costs!"

Dont you think you owe yourself more than that?

It means you are either gay or incel, to different degrees of course. Don't sugar coat it.

>>509455222
theres nothing stopping a woman from finding some sober accountant and bouncing on his dick until the sun comes up. there are many many forces stopping some sober accountant from buying a home or finding a decent woman or actually seeing his kids if he manages to get laid

>>509456396

People envy single men that are players and sleeping with a bunch of hot young women. That is like 1% of men at best.

>>509455678
You can kinda tell I dunno. This was at a grocery store. This was less spontaneous because i was still married and im not a cheater. But it was a mess, some attention felt good. ill try n greentext

>chick at grocery store putting shit on shelf
>check her out a little, sees me
>gives me the look, checks me out
>wave, walk away
>ff next time im there she's on register
>asks me if I think she's rude
>obvs icebreaker, I take the bait on purpose, throw some back
>say no, who'd say that, you seem sweet
>she eats it up
>I been going there coz its the grocery store, when i see her say hi in passing
>wife says you need to change
>change
>"not good enough"
>become depressed because I can't do anything right
>counseling, she needs to change too
>instead she bails
>sad as fuck, wanna die
>get therapy like loser instead of becoming an hero
>get medicated
>see grocery store girl, been a while
>hit on her hard, seems receptive
>ask for her number, get it

Leave off the getting married shit and do the hit on hard/ask for number after
>eats it up
And leave off the marry the wrong person get suicidal stuff.

>>509456827
Any man who signs a marriage contract in a contemporary western society is a complete wheelchair bound, drooling fucking retard. This is not even remotely a debate. Your gaslighting is absolutely remarkable levels of faggotry.
see >>509456680 also. No one is getting married anymore. 63% of men in their 20s are single, 50% haven't had sex in at least a year, and 50% have no desire to even date. That's just the male side. The shutin hermit who avoids life behind a screen is becoming a generational norm, society is fucking over in a few generations thanks to feminism and technology.

>>509457260

They are being culled for a reason anon

>>509439916
Now is not the time for children, now is the time to prepare for racial war. Your kids are yours until they're in preschool-- then they are raised by the state and it is over. This time is one of the worst times in history for Europeans to have children besides the Black Death.

>>509439916
Don't care

Never having sex

>>509456827
Been married and divorced twice. Have kids that Im barely allowed to see. Lost my home and business after she filed. Lived in my car for a while.
Fuck outta here with this simp white knight shit
Spoken like a dude who's never been with a woman.

>>509455568
Childless male lol
>>509456048
Childless male lol
>>509456917
Childless male lol

>>509456396
>reduced to sneaking an iPad into the bathroom and wanking off to porn
i know canada is a liberal bastion but this seems highly inappropriate at work, especially if the wife finds out. awkward

>>509457260
Dude speaks facts
>t. a complete wheelchair bound, drooling fucking retard which is not even remotely debatable

>>509456396
Tell her

>>509457493
>femanon here
that's what you sound like

>>509457526

I work construction it was just me and him on a job site. No one else around. His wife works in the office side of things

>>509447745
Sure go to a gay bar that has dancing

At 30 - 35 it starts to get weird. At 40? Game over.

>>509457493
what % of white women have kids before 30 these days? im not sure even a third of the women i graduated with have kids, they are all busy paying off their student loans

>>509457607
Just holding up a mirror is all.

>>509457765
It might be a plurality doesn't go on to breed, true. And the case would be that a plurality suck at life

>childless man, 30
>ewww red flag ick, get away from me creep
>childless woman, 30
>it's ok to have fun before settling down! you're still discovering yourself, don't settle for less!

>>509454578
Yes, there would be no data for under 5 non marital sexual partners

they are well into the six figure and dont feel like sharing it with used up post wall worthless sluts

>>509457990

Childless man at 30 was never "having fun", otherwise he would have children by now. Use your thinking cap anon.

>>509457260
No retard, the Idiot is the man who shies away from life because "something bad might happen!"

I can guarantee you 100% that when you die alone, you arent going to be saying "thank God I spent my entire life hiding from evil feminists I read about on 4chan" , the single most painful part of the experience will be reflecting on how you "played it safe" and spent your entire life hiding in your hole and never even tried because you were afraid of failure. This experience is it self more bitter than any failure

>>509456827
lol
lmao
they are not

>>509438347 (OP)
>Discuss
>1 post by this ID
jeet back to india, roastie

>>509457715
I think your best bet is to get a job that enables you to produce work remotely and take advantage of a nomad visa to live in a country with a lower cost of living.

I suspect that there are still some young women in more rural parts of Southern and Eastern Europe, along with the Levant, who would happily start a family with a Western man of reasonable means.

I have given up on women in my own country. They are closer to animals than people, being covered in tattoos and nose rings, and affect a prideful haughtiness that could curdle milk.

While media outlets proclaim that single women are happier than single men, I suspect that this is largely cope, for men need women for one thing only, and the reverse is not true.

I expect a rise in lamentation in the years to come from aging Millennial cat ladies.

>>509456396
>bout how his wife never has sex anymore and he's been reduced to sneaking an iPad into the bathroom and wanking off to porn and he wants to leave her but he's only staying for their kids. It was awkward because his wife also works for the company kek.

Thats called stupid.

Men should stay single untill they meet the right person that can complement their life, not some foid who is your co worker.

>>509438347 (OP)
when i was 17 my friends sister who was 2-3 years older than us was a total hotty. I just was reminded of her 5 mins ago and looked her up, shes a leading scientist/researcher at a university now. She looks older than my mom looked back when we knew each other. Getting old sucks.

>>509458198
>work remotely and take advantage of a nomad visa to live in a country with a lower cost of living.

Of course that is a strategy that works. But very few men can pull that off. And even places like Thailand, Philippines, Colombia are starting to be overrun be foreign men all fighting for a piece of the pie.

>>509454348
Same but I learned to hide it like Ted bundy

>>509442087
>Social media convinced her she was married to a monster and she had to "escape" lmfao. She was literally a stay at home mom that screamed and yelled at me and our kids all the time. Did whatever she wanted or didn't want to do and bitched at me when I complained about her being lazy. I picked up all the slack.
You are not the only one who has endured this. Some women turn to absolute shit after they have marry and have kids, and the system encourages and enables their abuse.

>>509438347 (OP)
*Raises hands and squirts eyes in classic WTF pose*

>>509438347 (OP)
I refuse to have a kid until I find a girl who will agree to 1950s household terms, I'm never changing a diaper and she must do 90% of the child raising and be a stay at home mom

I will be lucky to survive. Even luckier to retire before 50. No fucking way will I have a kid in this shit world.

>>509458092
Well yea actually they are, they started rising in the 60s and 70s for obvious reasons, peaked in the 80a and have been steadily falling since then

>>509457795
yes, anon, we got your original point you were making. I promise it didn't go over anyone's head. Some of the greatest men to have ever existed were childless, or their children were. Men have many potential destinies, women have one - motherhood. Failure to become a mother is to be a failure of a woman, what the fuck else do women do in the absence of childbearing? Protest for BLM and send emails at their makework daycare jobs? They're not building fucking roads or houses. This is not the case for men - Tesla was not a failure, nor was Isaac Newton, nor was Adolf Hitler and on and on and on.

>>509458451

Inflation needs to come down and prices have to fall. I guarantee if inflation went away and housing prices cratered nationwide we'd have a higher birth rate in the US.

>>509458081
>spent your entire life hiding in your hole and never even tried because you were afraid of failure

I have several ex gfs dude. After the last one I was just ....tired.

>>509458077
Condoms exist, dingus. For a fun-having young man, baby = game over.

Who is having kids on purpose and who is having them on accident? What are the ratios? Which society would benefit from such?

>>509458558
Trump is going to increase the debt by 8 trillion by the time he's out. Never gonna happen.

>>509456396
>no I will not communicate with partner I will just slink off and jerk it on the bathroom and slowly stew in resentment

I love how you are basing your life choices on the most idiodic fucking anecdotes like this kek. You realize that makes you a retard too right?

>>509458077
>Childless man at 30 was never "having fun", otherwise he would have children by now
I genuinely have no idea why you think this or what you are trying to imply. Just seems like a half-baked attempt at some sort of "gotcha" for le epic argument win

>>509458604
>having them on accident?
Oopsie my penis is in your vagina. Who put it there?

>>509446522
You post this in every one of these threads.

>>509458491
>he's out of touch
roflmao
an actual boomer, isnt it past your bedtime gramps?

>>509439916
I'll have one by 40

>>509458664

Just saying the majority of 30+ year old childless men are not childless on their terms

>>509439916
I wasn’t born a chad so I can’t attract women.

>>509458243
>untill they meet the right person that can complement their life
That person often later dramatically changes and divorce rapes you. Their friends and the courts encourage this. The only way to win an unwinnable game is to not play.

>>509441622
> Women give each other such bad advice I don't know if they're not purposefully trying to sabotage each other.
Yes, they are intentionally sabotaging one another. But it’s subconscious and most don’t even know they’re doing it.

>>509439916
this is the healthy time for men to start having kids.

>>509440136
Racism

>>509458425
With respect, 1950s domestic norms sentimentalised women, repressed men, and unequivocally do not represent traditional sex roles.

If you are serious about this, you will have to become acquainted with the customs of a time in Europe before the advent of Liberalism and the French Revolution.

30-something bachelors have always been pretty common

>>509458243

They met in college in their home country and immigrated to Canada together if I recall correctly.

College sweet hearts. Young love. Turned into that.

>>509458659

Who says I'm basing my life choices off that? That was just one relevant example I thought of

>>509457472
>Going through all of that bullshit just to land in the same spot as someone who never bothered
Brutal. And that retarded leaf will try to tell you that on your deathbed, you'll be glad you subjected yourself to that because it's better than not trying or some gay bullshit

>>509451086
>the ONLY species on Earth that has birth complications anywhere near that widespread.
It's all the size of the brain, the blood flow required for it, and walking upright. Walking upright minimizes calories for great hunting but limits the brain size. Birth is potentially deadly because the babies brain uses hormones to fight the mother for blood flow. The mother can't just drop a baby.

>>509439916
Just be trans

>>509459404

parts of europe and east asia produce people with massive wide heads

>>509458789
<most men aren't faggots who want a child to molest
what man wants a kid without the wife/family attached? men have zero reproductive rights also roastie

>>509451310
Seems like it kinda worked out in the end

>>509438347 (OP)
This. I'm nearly 30 with no children, but I was also secretly a homo and although not in denial to myself, I've never slept with a woman or been interested in them sexually. Through faith in Jesus Christ I've been able to overcome so much of it, but am content with never being a father.
If a bloke is 30 or over, but sleeps with women and has girlfriends, but either doesn't want kids or doesn't care to, than what good is he for a woman to want to be with?

>>509449924
>even in his prime
Early 30s is your prime as a proper man.

>>509459767
>but I was also secretly a homo
fucking faggot

>>509442331
and you, like a feminized leek as well fail to SOLVE THE PROBLEM and instead BACKSTAB the GENDER that gives BIRTH to the FUTURE GENERATION
you mouthbreathing caricature of a larping assclown

>>509440270
pic related

>>509459949
>BACKSTAB the GENDER that gives BIRTH to the FUTURE GENERATION
No one is backstabbing you, femoid. You're more pampered than at any point in history.

>>509459925
yeah no shit. children deserve a dad, but theres nothing more selfish than a man who knows hes that way inclined, but rather than isolate and truly overcome, racks up with some more woman who'll never really be loved entirely, and bring innocent children into the world only to suffer because one man can't get over wanting to stick his dick in another mans dirty arsehole

>>509438347 (OP)
>get rejected your whole life
>have a birthday, ending your 20s
>still be shamed for being single and not having kids
Fuck off, society.

>>509460188
wtf goes on in your brain to make you want to get naked with a dude? Even for women its borderline fucking gay

>>509458739
by 40 you should have grandkids, popping out kids then you'll be 60 when they're 20 lel western nations birthrates got pwned