Thread 509924122

no one ever saw one used or tested, yet entirety of jewish global order hinges of existence of this mythical weapon convincing people that they must pay taxes to pedos otherwise sand people halfway across the globe will eradicate them with this magic sci fi weapon. Just consider all sort of abilities assigned to this super weapon - it can destroy your city, but it can also throw magic thousand year poison around, but it can also destroy all electronic, but it can also plunge the world in eternal winter!
How did we fail to notice that this is just a basic bitch psyop all along? If I wrote a story with such premise you would laugh and call it unrealistic that people will just trust government about such unbelievable weapon, and yet it has shaped last eighty years of global geopolitics. Insane!

>>509924122 (OP)
"Nukes are fake" expects you to believe that the cold war was just a big show with Ike + Stalin and JFK + Khrushchev etc having a good laugh with eachother after acting out their latest staged cuban missile crisis.
Each new leader had to be briefed on how what they were just campaigning on was actually a sham and now they have to go along with it.

Yea that's fucking retarded and on the same level as flat-earth, maybe even worse actually.

>>509924590
there is nothing to "believe" anon, thing that is not there is not there, very simple.
There are over three hundred images of Beirut explosion back in 2020, yet for this magic all important weapon all we get are underwater mockups from 50s? Cmon!

>>509924809
there were like 2000 above-ground nuclear tests in the 20th century and plenty of them were recorded on video, including for countries that shouldnt be in the jewish world order club like China.

Thinking it's fishy we haven't seen one detonated above ground since the 70's is not a good enough reason to write it all off as fake, especially when saying it's fake creates 100 new mysteries that you can no longer explain

>>509924122 (OP)
It was Tesla's death ray all along.

>>509924122 (OP)
>>509924590
>>509924809
>>509925096
>>509925512
Nukes are fake and gay.

>india and pakistan have nukes
>but iran doesn't, because they're not as smart as them

>>509925096
>Thinking it's fishy we haven't seen one detonated above ground since the 70's is not a good enough

how so? How something goes from lmao 10k tests to nothing moment consumer cameras become a thing? How come these all important weapons are never ever tested or misused? I would say that constant lack of existence is a very good reason to doubt existence, especially since there is no real explanation for it. Countries like Isreal would've absolutely used a nuclear weapon if such thing existed. At this point it should be clear it is merely a fantasy.

I believe there are a hundred things worse than nukes

>>509925934
this is entirely based off personal assumptions and gut feelings. You can't explain the cold war if you say nukes are fake, so that proves the theory false. Not to mention all the test footage. The holes created by believing the theory are waaay more ridiculous than "hmmmm they havent tested one in 50 years.... curious"

It's far more likely they are just afraid to upset the balance of power and every nuclear power is terrified of nuclear war so they never test them.
Because they just don't want to initiate an episode of nuclear weapons usage that could potentially escalate; countries take it very seriously.
Also they signed a treaty not to do it above ground ever and to try to never do testing at all.

here's an underground nuke test if you think there's some way this could've been faked. Greenpeace was created trying to stop this test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dew6htIWgzU

>>509926700
Knowing how evil kikes are, if nukes were real, they would already nuke all the cities where white people live.
It makes no sense to scare whites about how bad nukes are just through propaganda, when you could use them to greatly reduce their number and then scare them how bad nukes are so nobody uses them again, if nukes were real.
Since that did not happen, it means nukes are fake and gay.

Nukes are FAKE

Watch the documentary:
https://odysee.com/@Got42d:3/The-Nuclear-Scare-Scam---Galen-Winsor-eats-uranium-to-prove-its-_harmless_:5
> physic professor who toured arround the USA in the 70s made presentations proving Uranium and radiation is literally overblow, to get it out of regular peoples hands since ist pretty easy to use for almost free energy.
He also explains the properties of certain radiation.
For example alpha radiation is just producing helium.
It can't even penetrate paper.

Radiators from radium which emit heat without energy imput can be radiactivly isolatey by putting it in a thin aluminum Box.
But they wanted to get it out of consumers hands since they can't require money from you for that.

So then every radioactive material became dangerous.
Which people did not buy sind they knew in the 50s that only polonium and Kobalt isotopes produce radiation which can affect the human beeing.
Then they created the Nuke scam. Cheap energy will be impossible because of that.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/bOO8PGgN7Z2e/

> THAT TIME FIVE GUYS STOOD AT GROUND ZERO WHILE A NUKE DETONATED OVERHEAD.
https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2012/07/16/156851175/five-men-agree-to-stand-directly-under-an-exploding-nuclear-bomb
> archived: https://archive.is/z8Vcf

>>509926700
>this is entirely based off personal assumptions and gut feelings

brother you literally can't show me a video of the thing you claim to exist. Your argument is "there's no way that this thing I can't possibly show you doesn't exist", you are just appealing to incredulity.
As other anon said, Israel supposedly has nukes. If Jews had nukes they would've used them already because they are evil retards.

>>509926977
>>509927253
So it's fake because Israel didn't murder everyone with them already and get themselves counterattacked into molten glass? Yeah no

Can you explain why China is playing along with the hoax?

>>509924122 (OP)
You do raise a good point that they need to be used every so often to maintain credibility, i propose frying some overpopulated muslim city every year.

>>509927613
>Can you explain why China is playing along with the hoax?
Why wouldn't they be doing that? They're an essential part of the globohomo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtCTzbh4mNQ

>It's just a fire bomb, bro.
>That shockwave that was picked up across the entire world by barometers and seismometers? Everybody who owns one of these is in on the grift.

>>509927613
If Israel used a single nuke to nuke Teheran, they would still have enough to maintain MAD doctrine, so who would nuke them back in retaliation? To say nothing of "whoops terrorist did it :^)" shit they would try to pull if nukes were real. So yeah, evil demon kikes not using nukes to kill millions is a very good indicator that they are fake and gay.

>>509927922
Nobody says that. They are outside globohomo and are watching from the Asian perspective with no Jewish influence. They study Jews like animals in their universities

>>509928063
>Everybody who owns one of these is in on the grift.
Yes, just like the coronavirus hoax.

>>509928118
china IS part of globohomo. If they weren't, they wouldn't send all the manufacturing over there.

>>509928206
Okay, so you're saying if you bought a seismometer in the late 50s in Japan, shorty after you would get a visit from the KGB and/or glowniggers, and they would tell you that nukes aren't real, but at certain points in the future you will have to fake your data output and pretend that they are? And they did this all across the globe, with millions of people?

It's not well known, but the US detonated two in Mississippi. One was to see what a buried Nuke would do, the second was the see what would happen in the massive pit the first one made.

But yeah nukes were an easy point and blame. Now we only scream nuke, but nothing about hydrogen bombs or the capacity of a drone to deliver a nuclear payload. How many average people talk about the horrors of airburst munitions?

WMD prevention has been used for some pretty questionable shit on the world stage. Usually the govt screams about the wmds and takes the gold and oil.

>>509924122 (OP)
>are nuclear weapons the biggest psyop of all times?

No. Only flat earth tier retards think they are fake.

Nukes are well documented.

I take it you retards got sick of being embarrassed in your flat earth threads so you've moved on to something involving significantly more complexity.

>>509928988
It was (maybe still is?) illegal to claim japan was firebombed and not nuked, even if you witnessed it being firebombed by dozens of planes.
And there weren't millions of seismometers all around the world held by the average person, they didn't care to have one, why would they?

>>509924122 (OP)
So two Japanese cities destroyed themselves and made up some cover up bombs? What about the thousands of nuclear weapons tests and footage documenting them? Are those and all involved also part of this cover up?

kino time

>>509929438
They say every nuclear test video is fake and made with miniatures by the same studio that faked the moon landings

>>509925934
They never tested nukes near people, it was
>Sahara Desert (France)
>Central Pacific (America)
>Siberia (Russia)
>Australian outback (Britain)
>Gobi Desert (China)

>>509929182
>>509929195
>>509929438
>>509929855
>b-but what about these others things!

who cares? Onus is on you guys to provide evidence of existence, this should be obvious. You have to cry about events that happened 70 years ago because that's all you have. I am not going through history trying to figure out what's true and what's not, or guessing why people are or are not doing things, because this is besides my point. My point is that neither I or you have ever seen a nuclear weapon actually being used, and reasons for these are ad hoc copes.
There are hundreds of angles of Beirut explosion, yet somehow in last fifty years there is not a single video of a nuke? Some rando journo didn't sneak for a photo of his life? Somehow a thing that was done in 1940 SSSR is not easily reproducible? Jews are just not using it? etc.
Why are you aghast that I don't accept a thing you literally can't show me because it has never happened outside of "somewhere, trust bro"? And yet entire geopolitics status quo hedges on this. Insane.

>>509929861
Nevada test site. People used to watch them go off from rooftops.

>>509931513
this had to be before they added EMPs and radiation to nukes, right?

>>509930681

How are we supposed to prove it to you if you don't believe any evidence? There are hundreds of hours of nuclear test footage with multiple angles each and that look far more complex than any Hollywood miniatures ever used. You want us to set off a nuke for you while you watch?
You just noticed something suspicious and now you want them to be fake. You believe whatever you have to to convince yourself you're right, no matter how illogical. The "Space is Fake" niggers do the same shit

>>509928092
They are batshit crazy but not that crazy. A country probably wouldn't nuke them back, but there's still like a 20% a chance things could escalate and they might, and they are so small that they'd be annihilated totally if it happened. They wouldn't take the risk
Also Pakistan went out and said that they'd nuke anyone who nuked Iran

>>509934037
What's stopping pakistan from giving some nukes to iran?
Maybe this way iran can make nukes faster and make nukes for their ally countries too.

>>509933640
>How are we supposed to prove it to you if you don't believe any evidence?

I would believe evidence, my point is that there is none. We have some very old (professionally made) videos, some myths like guy above you or Japan, and then about sixty years of silence. To me it is much more believable that it is just yet another fake and gay psyop, than to believe that people just choose not to use, or test, or just fuck around with ultimate super weapon that is beyond any other weapon. Once you get past that you kind realize that entire idea of magic super weapon that just so happens to justify globalism is kinda real fucking convenient.
For what is worth, I do believe that nuclear explosion is, with enough effort and materials piled, somewhat possible(very low yields), but idea of nuclear warheads flying around the world and super giga weapons is just vaporware that was sold in 40s by weapon manufacturers but has never worked out in practice, and then just kinda stuck in zeitgeist and was used to justify having enemies. But that's just a guess.

>>509934298
>What's stopping pakistan from giving some nukes to iran?
Countries don't do that.
Iran might be their friend now, but anything could happen and maybe they could end up with Iran threatening them with their own nukes later. It would be stupid. They can just set up their nukes in Iran in Pakistani bases within Iran if need be, like the US does and USSR did

>>509932980
>why doesn't an EMP that lasts a fraction of a second and doesn't affect mechanical cameras with cellulose film show up on the exposures minutes after the event

>>509934525
the test footage is hard video evidence, you can't ignore it or dismiss it.
You seem to think the 50 year gap is more important than any evidence you will ever see and don't understand how others could think differently.

>We have some very old (professionally made) videos
Is there a single thread of evidence that the test videos are faked?

>>509924122 (OP)
Nukes are a Jewosh myth to make you fear them.
>NOO DONT USE NUCLEAR POWER ITS UNLIMITED FREE AND CLEAN NOOO IT WILL KILL EVERYONE BRO

>>509924122 (OP)
Freemasons+Jews invented the nuclear weapons myth.

Yeah bro I totally believe the human trafficker baby rapists are "too good hearted" to use nukes.
>>509929721
Oh boy forced perspective shots to make them look bigger than they are!

I noticed this the first time I saw the footage, and I was a kid at the time.

>>509935494
>Yeah bro I totally believe the human trafficker baby rapists are "too good hearted" to use nukes.
how is this even a reason, I've heard 3 people say it ITT
It doesnt matter how badly they want to use it, they wont use it because they are afraid of getting hit back. Because they're so small that it wouldn't take much to turn their whole country to glass

>>509935658
But the only time nukes were ever used in combat left 0 radiation contamination.

The USA used depleted uranium shells and made the middle east one of the most radioactivelly contaminated areas on the planet.

What's the fear? Check my peer reviewed sources.
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>>509935658
Conventional ICBMs are more dangerous than nukes, because they are easily manufactured.

>>509935163
>the test footage is hard video evidence, you can't ignore it or dismiss it.

I absolutely fucking can. You have no real explanation as to why those videos would magically stop once it became to hard to make up shit. You just accept that magic sci fi weapon you know to be true was just never ever used for six decades. Think about it for a singular moment.
>Is there a single thread of evidence that the test videos are faked?
outside of majority of them being blatantly underwater renditions? Just look how "dust" behaves

>>509935287
Nuclear weapons ARE the scaled down version.
What is critical mass?

>>509924122 (OP)
I didn't fail to notice. You did.

I never believed anything unless I wanted to. I've been fooled plenty of times, but not by clownish shit like the holocaust and nukes. Those are low IQ barriers.

>>509924122 (OP)
Nukes are fake and gay
Space is fake and gay
Evolution is fake and gay
Jews are fake and gay
OP is fake and gay

>>509924809
The bikini atoll. Hiroshima and Nagasaki. There's something that should be, that it isn't. There are things that shouldn't be there, but they are. My almonds get activated for some reason. An expert, an expert: my onions for an expert

>>509936055
>Nukes have a special physics carve out that stops people making firecracker sized nukes
>a Jewish scientist told me!
How convenient! I'd expect the most important weapon of war to ever exist to be more documented.
>>509936131
Jewish well poisoner.
>>509936026
This. There is no modern evidence of nukes. All footage of nukes was staged by a specific film studio, but I forget the name.

Radioactive Isotopes are real. Nuclear fission and fusion are real. Runaway fission leading to huge releases of energy is not.

The Oppenheimer movie was a psyop to prep people for claiming Iran nuked us.

>>509924122 (OP)
nuclear energy exists but nuclear weapons do not?

Now that the world is waking up to the nuclear weapons myth, jews are moving onto climate change as the destroyer of humanity.
Hawaii, fires
>space lasers
Texas, floods
>Peter Thiel cloud seeding

>Quick guys we gotta fear the weather we are causing!
Exact same psychology as nukes
>quick guys! You need to fear us to we protect you
>from who?
>us!

>>509924122 (OP)
Yes they are fake as hell

>>509936448
It's completely possible for relatively stable fission to exist, but instantaneous runaway fission to not.

>>509924590
Until I see a nuke they are fake Hiroshima ground zero buildings are still standing

>>509936385
>>Nukes have a special physics carve out that stops people making firecracker sized nukes
Yes it's called critical mass, the same reason we don't have pea sized stars, maybe they're fake too

>>509924122 (OP)
Nukes are real. Saying they arent is nigger brained. Its like saying a nuclear power plant never melted down or fission doesnt exist

>>509925096
This video proves nothing

>>509936644
Zero radiation contamination too. No genetic diseases.
>>509935494
>>509935494
>>509935494

>>509936693
Bullshit what is a neutron star?

>>509924590
The Cold War was fake and gay. It was used to grow a large war making establishment after there wasn’t a real need for it. Cold War also gave us the national security state and corrupt intelligence agencies.
The US claimed communism was spreading while allowing communists to teach in American universities.

>>509936735
Exactly. Hiroshima should still be uninhabitable till this day

>>509925933
The (((russian))) gave them the information to build them

>>509936693
What about scientists already having made mini suns and mini black holes in the lab?
>>509935287
>>509935287
>>509935287

>>509936768
>what is a neutron star?
larger than a pea

>>509936805
It was part of the globalist agenda. All world leaders were shaking hands at the end of ww2

>>509924122 (OP)
Anyone who says nukes are is coping, they have already concluded that nukes have doomed humanity's development and we are an extinct species walking.
The only reason why shitslam still exists, china and india and populations are the billions, South Korea hasn't run over North Korea with the fury of an "incel" army, socialism and communism are still a thing a thing despite being proved wrong multiple times is nukes and MAD fear.
There is no escaping from this catch 22, we can't put the nuclear genie back into the bottle, we either go extinct by nuclear war or we wither away as we are unable to wage war and purge all the undesirables from our genes and societies.
They know this, and they can't cope with that we as a species have engineered our destruction, so they fool themselves into thinking that such devices don't exist, as no species would create something that would destroy its creator

>>509936861
>What about scientists already having made mini suns and mini black holes in the lab?
Not a star, just hot plasma. Those suns just mimic the effects of what a star produces, hot plasma.

>>509936911
2001:
>GUY LOOK, ISRAELS GEOPOLITICAL ENEMY, IRAQ, HAS NUKES. WE GOTTA INVADE!!!
2025:
>GUY LOOK, ISRAELS GEOPOLITICAL ENEMY, IRAN, HAS NUKES. WE GOTTA INVADE!!!

>>509936026
>You have no real explanation as to why those videos would magically stop once it became to hard to make up shit.
maybe because they stopped doing tests so there was nothing to record?

>Think about it for a singular moment.
I have, and it's infinitely more plausible that nobody used the scary giga weapons for 60 years than them being fake and the cold war + all those proxy wars being a big stageplay and china being a co-conspirator and hundreds of hours of extremely high tech special effects footage was made from various camera angles that matched the described plans, locations, times etc for each nuclear test. Or that all the grunts and low level techs who were involved in executing the tests are lying.

here's a controversy from one test where the soldiers got radiation poisoning from cleaning up test ships that were damaged by nuke tests in the pacific:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Crossroads#Aftermath

YOU think about it, it's literally ridiculous

>Just look how "dust" behaves
it looks 100% realistic though and it would only look like that at 1x scale

>underwater
huh? looks nothing like it
Maybe you think this because you assume it's a miniature when it's actually fucking huge, so it must be in water to move that slowly if that small?

>>509937174
>china being a co-conspirator and hundreds of hours of extremely high tech special effects footage was made from various camera angles that matched the described plans, locations, times etc for each nuclear test.
There was a Hollywood film studio dedicated to faking the footage

>>509937174
Don’t care I’m tired of hearing about nukes. Unless they’re going to drop one on India, nukes are fake and gay and not real. Jewish lies to prevent white men from dominating the earth

>>509937299
Sounds like the moon landing

>having a tv is like having a Jew in your living room

>>509936619
There is another problem with nations who have nukes, are they all in on the lie? Can Iran’s scientists simply show that nukes are not real/credible weapons in order to deter aggression? The idea of fake doomsday weapons to control the population with fear is fascinating though, like something out of science fiction.
I tend to believe there is a source of power above nation states and therefore coordination is very possible (I’d call this the conquered world theory). It explains worldwide Covid lie, mass migration, and contrived wars (Cold War, Ukraine/Rus)

>>509937005
This also would explain why we haven't found any other intelligent form of life in space.
Any species that develops nukes before mastering space travel or achieving monodominance over its planets will go extinct before reaching space.

>>509937370
Yeah. Why did they accidently destroy the high quality full color tapes of humanity's greatest achievement? I don't believe it's fkse (yet), but it is very suspicious Freemasons always sureound these great achievements while being sworn to secrecy.
>>509937414
>orans parilment building is a pyramid with 33 windows
It's one big club and you're not in it! Just keep spinning that uranium in centrifuges, it's super important!

They don't care if their citizens die, just a song as they maintain power.
>>509937463
>jewish suicide cult mentality explains everything!

>>509937673
see >>509937005

>>509926977
>>509927142
Show flag

>>509930681
There's a lot of videos of nukes here's one of Hiroshima out of a plane window.

>>509937964
OH WOW A MUSHROOM CLOUD THAT ALL BIG BOMBS MAKE :OOO

PLS MR JEW PROTECT ME FROM THESE WEAPONS!

I hope that guy with the images about the nuke film studio and edited photographs comes back.

>>509937414
>I tend to believe there is a source of power above nation states and therefore coordination is very possible
if by "very possible" you mean "incredibly unlikely"
All these conspiracy theories rest on the assumption that the conspirators are so unbelievably competent at tricking people, blackmailing and bribing all the low level witnesses, stopping all whistleblowers, making sure nobody ever goes turncoat, making sure every new leader always agrees to go with it etc... that you never see definitive proof of it on the internet, where there are countless other schizos searching for it with you.

Nukes are fake, Space is fake and the world is flat all depend on this reasoning, which is why they are mocked constantly

>>509937370
the moon landing is something that could possibly be fake
Nuclear weapons tests though? no

>>509927922
> Why wouldn't they be doing that? They're an essential part of the globohomo.

>>509938265
So you're saying ghislane maxwell is innocent and there is no Epstein client lost?

>>509938134
So they have the power to detonate a conventional bomb in 1945 producing an atmospheric shockwave hot enough to have a vapor trail larger than the surrounding clouds? Why lie about nuclear weapons if they have the capacity to do it regardless? Twisted logic

>>509937174
>maybe because they stopped doing tests so there was nothing to record?

Ah so entire world just randomly came together at some point and collectively decided to stop using or testing 1940 era magic super weapon capable of destroying the world, which is why you sadly can't show us any example of said magic weapon existing at all in past sixty years.
Kek, and you believe yourself clever too.

>>509938859
You would be surprised what people would do to avoid a taboo.
The usage of nukes had reached that level on the collective of humanity as it is something that can (and has already) destroyed us

>>509938859
Yes it's called Jews and blackmail.
>ghidlane maxwell is innocent
>there is no epstein list

>>509926024
This is the real blackpill

They have literal mind reading/control satellites which can remotely monitor your thoughts and alter your behaviour to the extent that they can literally make you say things like a Sims character.

Nukes are stone age shit.

>>509938859
it wasn't random, they signed no-testing treaties and later expanded it to banning underground tests too. Environmentalist groups like Greenpeace came into being because people hated the nuclear tests hurting the environment

this is the treaty:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_Nuclear_Test_Ban_Treaty

I dont know why you're so hung up on the 60 years. There are still people alive who've seen nukes in person.
It's really not that unbelievable, the implications of it being fake are 100x more ridiculous

>>509939317
Good thing they banned the thing that doesn't exist, because it hurts the environment.

Never mind all the industrial waste pollution! Or the fact that coal power plants release shitloads of radiation into the air!

>>509939474
>Good thing they banned the thing that [schizophrenic drivel]

>Or the fact that [more schizophrenic drivel]!

get help

>>509938859
Yes, is that nuclear international comission, tard. Enforce by the countries with the biggest arsenal.
So yes, mostly kikes. That's why despite being parity state, pissrael gone from no nuke to now have several, many stolen from south afrika with they made it implode by pressuring burgers to destroy the apartheid and white south africa.
Not believing legit stuff for no reason besides you being retarded is tell tale sign that you're a retarded cattle.

>>509939317
>I dont know why you're so hung up on the 60 years.
Because the argument for nukes is "they were used 60 years ago". I am pointing out how impossible it is that we just haven't had anything nuclear in literal decades. No Russian testing tac nukes in Siberia, Israel doing Isreal shit, nork doing it for shits and giggles etc. It is downright impossible that we had nothing. The only explanation is that they are fake, most likely in that it is impractical to create actual nuclear warhead with any meaningful yield, so they are more useful as just myth to enable globalism
>It's really not that unbelievable, the implications of it being fake are 100x more ridiculous
Is that more ridiculous than accepting something that clearly doesn't exist?

>>509938623
the Epstein thing was handled the opposite of competently by its conspirators.
But still, you're right, I can't prove the files were real. I don't have access to evidence for that FBI investigation, and the people who do seem like they're trying to cover it up.

There are infinitely more holes in the "Nukes are fake" theory where real proof of the conspiracy could be exposed, since it'd be a conspiracy between millions of people who knew out at some point and the witnesses they bribed to shut up. Never finding proof when there are that many possible leaks is pretty damning to the theory, yeah.

>>509940391
North Korea recently tested a rudimentary gun type fission bomb a couple years back. The last nuke was actually detonated in 1992 in Nevada. The ban only affected atmospheric tests so they continued testing underground.

>>509940775
by all means post footage of Nork bomb

>>509939761
"Schizo" is not an argument, FILTHY KIKE

>>509940941
How would I have access to classified materials from north korea ?

>>509940391
>just myth to enable globalism
THIS
>>509941093
You made a claim, substantiate it.
>my government said so
Is not an argument

I've ascended and honestly I don't even think wars are real anymore. It's all fake. Historical battles were mostly made up by autists to justify land grabs.

>>509940391
>I am pointing out how impossible it is that we just haven't had anything nuclear in literal decades.
There is something wrong with you if you consider "Nothing Ever Happens" for 60 years to be impossible, but the cold war being a big stageplay to be very likely.
You are backwards, that's not how probability works

>>509941266
We have seismic data. It's actually not the government that said so, rather an independent seismology research station.

yeah yeah yeah its all fake get a new argument like HOW.

>>509929438
they dropped napalm. jap buildings were all wood so burned rapidly

>>509941658
that is how reality works. If nukes were something people could do, people would be doing them. It's that simple. Its like saying that people wouldn't resort to prostitution or usury because we agreed they are mean.
Nukes not being used means that they are either completely fake, or not feasible weapon of war aka it is impossible to miniaturized enough to fit on a projectile. It doesn't really matter which to me, because in both case they are fake and gay.
>>509941762
>be asked to post footage of Nork nuke
>posts seismic squiggles

jej

>>509941942
You are incredibly dense. When did I claim to have footage? How about you post footage of one being faked in photoshop fucking retard.

>>509941942
>If nukes were something people could do, people would be doing them. It's that simple.
wrong, and a fallacy. You can't know what other people think or how they're going to behave. Especially not with autism like this

>>509942261
>You can't know what other people think

kek, but you can claim that they will magically come together and do the impossible
thanks for concession, don't let the door hit you on your way out

My only assumption at this point is that this anti-nuke retardation is a kike psyop in order to try to encourage more conventional wars that are normally held back by the nuclear threat possessed by every major power on earth. The only reason we're not at war with X country or Y country is because of the knowledge that war with those countries would cascade into war with other countries, who also possess nuclear arms, and will use them the instant shit starts to look bad. But if we have enough of these blithering lobotomite niggers spamming this shit on /pol/, it'll convince enough Facebook dinosaurs and schizophrenics that nuclear weapons are a conspiracy and embolden them to call for war with enemies of Israel and Greater Israel.

>>509942401
yeah bro we should instead form one world government and fight sand people because they could obtain magic sci fi weapons that would destroy the world otherwise right?

>>509939474
>>509941045
oh I wasnt aware there was an argument, because the first line isn't one
I guess you're saying there should be more pollution from the tests?
Yeah that's a case where there was probably some conspiracy and they want you to think nukes are more dangerous than they are. So the fallout did not last that long compared to the movies.
But still, not fake

>>509942401
>if you disagree you're Jewish
>t. Jew

>>509941942
Uh no it's incredibly expensive and difficult to manufacture fission materials, let alone multi-stage fusion type weapons. Not millions of dollars, billions, to develop a singular bomb from scratch. Why hasn't any terror group built a fighter jet to strafe a city? Are those fake too or just difficult and expensive to procure?

>>509942380
>magically come together and do the impossible
do nothing, you mean? yes I do think that's possible, more likely than a crazy apocalyptic happening, even!
Your posts have no substance for the past 3 replies, just repeating how it should be obvious that this particular human behavior is "impossible".
Therefore I won, thanks for playing

>>509942974
>not an argument
>>509942380
I believe you are winning this debate, because your opponents only have conjecture, and allude to Epstein being innocent!

>>509943339
You lost

>>509943689
>refuse to acknowledge any points
>parrot same debunked arguments
>pretend like you one
Denounce the Talmud, kike.

>>509944104
there's not a single "point" that me and the leaf didn't btfo, it's easy because you're schizo retards who run on feelings over logic and evidence
oh and I denounce the Talmud

>>509944360
>schizo schizo schizo schizo schiz
You kikes are bad at debate if all you have is the genetic fallacy. I guess you're dumber than a shizo *shrug*

>>509944530
that's what you are, though

>>509924122 (OP)
there are plenty of evidence they exist, both in terms of videos, logic and even articles showing wow they work in theory
for example there are nuclear power plants that get a lot of energy "from somewhere"
their existence is also the #1 reason why West hasn't tried to liberate Russia or Belarus (from itself) after Putin came to power and restored sovereignty or tried to bomb Russia directly, not via proxy
same goes for North Korea

nuclear tests were stopped after Cold War either due to treaties or self-imposed moratoriums
West doesn't want to resume these full tests, because Russia will start doing the same, and since this is a kryptonite to West's war machine, it's not in their interest to open the box

also there are few countries that have them, and the usage of tactical nukes might create a global condemnation and sanctions and normalize their use for all players, that is why their the threshold of use is incredibly high right now - nobody wants to do it first, at least after WW2

however, if there is a choice between defeat or their usage, of course they will be used
and this is why Russia cannot lose to the whole West, let alone Ukraine with West's support, there simply won't be any winners in the Northern Hemisphere
also they might be used as a preemptive strike, for example if Russia sees the war with Europe is inevitable

>>509944530
I have no idea what you are even trying to argue. Clearly you are getting very emotional and reacting based on that rather than the multitude of evidence and logic which has been posted. If God came down and told you they were real you would still claim it was Jews inducing some kind of hallucination lol.

>>509944602
How many more squares you want to fill in?

>>509945333
>anyone who calls me crazy is jewish!!

>>509945501
Quick Jew, fill in more squares! You already lost the nuke debate.

>>509924590
If you believe in (((nukes))) then I'm sure you're an atheist kaffir and took all 15 covis shots you fucking nigger. (((Science))) is the god of reddit tier niggers. You probably believe niggers went to the moon too.

>>509945581
kek you weren't even smart enough to make your little bingo card line up all the "you're crazy" squares so you could actually win. 'Cus you're sure as fuck not gonna get any squares about anti-Palestine, anti-white or pro LGBT from me. Oh and the 2 bottom right squares you crossed are lies

>Jews think the point of bingo is to line up the squares on purpose so you win, instead of being random chance
Kike mentality in action.

>>509946397
uh that's not what I said retard. you're genuinely low IQ for not understanding that post

>>509937174
Fuck you nigger. Pixar movies have better graphics. https://youtube.com/shorts/DHLLN1E-tFc
Video shows how (((nuke))) footage was even faker than the holocaust.

>>509946179
That is simulated footage, it was never presented as authentic. Regardless of if anybody has been to the moon the data exists to quantify the distance and path to reach it. You would need to argue with nothing but your faith and emotion that is there is a gigantic invisible dome blocking you from reaching it, which is doesn't exactly make your case resonate with non-schizo types. Not the point of the thread though.

>>509946600
Cameras we're encased in concrete bunkers using telescopic lenses to capture footage from a distance outside of the blast radius. They even employed other rudimentary tactics like reflecting the image using mirrors. You can actually see the radiation effecting the film subtly in high fps footage.

>>509946600
that's just some retard making the same baseless speculation as the niggers ITT. Russia and China tested nukes too and they looked the same.
I'll humor you, maybe the hydrogen bomb slow-exploding orange videos could be fake and only the gigantic brown mushroom cloud ones are real, but there are tons of other older videos like this >>509925096 and from multiple countries

Here's a video from one of the USSR's tests

>>509947790
You're right.
No conspiracy exists between the countries.

Epstein killed himself.

There was no epstein client list.

Ghislane maxwell is innocent.

>>509947930
>No conspiracy exists between the countries.
yes

>Epstein killed himself.
no

>There was no epstein client list.
no

>Ghislane maxwell is innocent.
no

don't put words in my mouth fucker

>>509924122 (OP)
I assure you they exist

>>509929721
>ywn sink old boats with nukes in the middle of the pacific with your bros
the boomers got to have all of the fun and then made it illegal

>>509925933
the only reason iran doesnt have nukes is because their highest religious authority outlawed them

>>509947983
He's a glowie shill waging, he cannot help it anon. I would say that there's several conspiracies between countries, after all this is a globohomo world, a clown world.

>>509925933
India totally has nukes.
A moon landing too.

>>509924590
Ok I'll play along.
>Mutually assured destruction is actually one side revealing the truth.
>The US advantage is a massive defense budget, NATO, global bases, and arm control treaties
>So it advantage is similar but they appear stronger than they really are.
>Through back channel negotiation via embassies, 3rd parties, the hotline, top leaders knew or suspected the bluff
>The cost of exposing the lies is too great, it would destroy national credibility, trigger political collapse, or embolden enemies.

explain this

>>509924122 (OP)
Yes it's all just a big bluff based on a science fiction novel

>>509924122 (OP)
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/atomic-tourism-nevada/
I suppose we could say that everyone involved were paid actors but at that point it would be easier to make an actual atomic bomb.

>>509953311
I like the part where they stand at ground zero with no radioactive protective gear other than medical shoe covers. It's as real as picrel being what crashed at Roswell.

The one site you can't link to on 4chan or its an automatic 3-day ban has multiple papers on nuclear weapons being fake.

>>509953741
How about nukes just aren't as dangerous or as radioactive as they make it seem and don't contaminate as much? Maybe that's the "fake" part; I could see them doing that for propaganda purposes

>>509953741
An airburst does not create harmful levels of radiation at ground zero. Debris like dust is sucked into the cloud and irradiated in the atmosphere where it is carried away for miles by the wind. You are thinking of ground bursts which were often not conducted due to actually being less effective, as a majority of the explosion is concentrated directly into the ground, rather than spreading out and affecting a larger radius like with air bursts. You can simulate it yourself by blowing smoke onto a flat surface from various heights and calculating the optimal height to blow from.

>>509924590
>"They've played both sides since the French Revolution"
>"Nooooo every side is distinct and not Jewish at all, ignore the khazars and Yids on both sides meeting in Israel to dissolve gentile and Israelite populations.

>>509954218
Then the fear mongering is bullshit and they are no more dangerous than dirty bombs.
>>509954404
Oh wow how convenient we will never see a nuke contaminate anywhere then, if their main selling point (perma killing everything forever) never happens.

>>509954445
This. Jews left Russia and moved to the US.

>>509924122 (OP)
Yes I was making threads about this constantly like 5 years back and they were deleted over and over. People are absolute fucking cattle for believing in nukes, there is no samson protocol, there wasnt even a hypothetical justification for wars in the mideast, its just kike trickery. The one good thing about it is that jews have had to rely on this lie for so long which shows that they're actually weak and uncreative. That they couldnt come up with a better reason for war with iran after so many years is incredibly fucking retarded

>>509945171
>hi I'm jewish
Nuclear power plants are real, nuclear bombs are not

>>509955593
This. How convenient Jews want to associate "free energy" with "we will kill everyone if you don't do what we say"

>>509938134
Name five bombs as big as that in 1945.

>>509954119
I checked this and its just some fag saying stuff like "CLEARLY those leaves would have not sizzled that way if this were real." Like prove that they wouldn't, I'm not just believing your gaslighting

>>509927142
Yes I fully believe he ate uranium metal with little effects. He would need it to he in a uranium salt form, or ground up into a fine powder to absorb into his body. Otherwise it's just eating a small rock basically.

>>509924122 (OP)
>The japanese lied about getting nuked.
You faggots really believe this? Really?

>>509925933
Pakistan didn't invent shit, it was the French engineers selling them know how

>>509955854
post nose

>>509955917
Why was there 0 radiation contamination?
>airbusrt
Why don't nukes ever show their claimed lethality?
>>509935494
>>509935494

nukes run reactors real slow compared to high output of a bomb but they seem too mysterious for you? how do they run those impossible to catch submersibles for months undersea, mermaid helpers?

>>509924122 (OP)
That's the thing. Under normal circumstances it makes little military sense to use a nuclear weapon, especially against another nuclear power. And yet we're told to constantly fear this possibility. The one time it was used in a military context was because the Japanese were preparing to fight to the death, which would prompted a costly invasion of the home islands. So they needed some sense smacked into them.

In modern circumstances the whole "oy vey Iran can't get da bomb! We need to prevent annuda shoah!" narrative is undercut by the more rational possibility that they want nukes as a deterrent from getting attacked by nuclear powers.

>>509956491
Ty for posting these Anon. I was looking for them.

>>509956684
>>509956630

why the hell would you even remotely try to say that shit?

Its documented history. Don't be fucking stupid.

>>509956856
>my rabbi told me so!

>>509956908
I swear some of you mental midgets need to touch grass and read history. Its not even that long ago that it doesn't have video coverage and shit. But for some fucking reason someone thinks its fake? Really?

>>509956528
I'm pretty sure the cattle shabbos goyim who were in on this got paid very well and coped thinking they had prevented ww3 by lying about nukes "mutially assured destruction" which is really just a tell for jews rule the world since otherwise they would be called out on this. Iran is controlled at the top levels by jews and part of the proof for that is they never called out nukes as being a hoax which would clearly be in their interest

>>509956282
>>509956360
>>509956418
>The US possibly made and taught propaganda to make their nukes look more dangerous and scare other countries >>509954218
>this somehow means there are no nukes at all

Where's the pdf explaining how the Soviet and Chinese test videos are fake? >>509947790

>>509956440
>THE JAPANESE
>LIED
?

This is too dumb to even be a contrarian opinion post.

This is the same type of mentality that got Trump elected.

>>509925934
>How something goes from lmao 10k tests to nothing moment consumer cameras become a thing?
Because there was growing worldwide concern among the public about the effects of nuclear fallout from the tests so the majority of the countries in the world agreed to ban nuclear tests, starting with above ground tests.
Before they banned the tests, there were huge numbers of military members and government officials who witnessed the tests and took photos and films of them (they have had consumer film cameras since the '30s you walnut).
It was harder for ordinary people in the general public to see the tests first hand, since they were intentionally conducted in isolated locations far from any populated areas for obvious reasons. That said, during the tests, the public often did see the effects of the tests from a distance. Las Vegas even had an advertising campaign encouraging tourists to visit so they could watch the tests on the horizon. And the flashed from the explosions were visible from as far away as LA.

>>509956997
Historians would never lie

>>509957189
Hahahaha

>>509924122 (OP)
if nukes werent real russia would've ceased to exist a few years back

>>509957613
No pekka, Putin is a jew

>>509924122 (OP)
> no one ever saw one used or tested
They have an entire movie full of the tests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQMnC7AM7jc

>>509927253
>brother you literally can't show me a video of the thing you claim to exist.
WTF are you talking about? There are tons of high quality videos of all of these tests:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X5Jh0KlDdg

>>509924122 (OP)
real but a tool used for psyops for 99.9% of their existence, not intended to actually destroy cities but to hold you hostage with that fear

>>509956418
>>509956451

>>509957808
Yeah like this one https://youtu.be/OYUSKWhb3sk?si=A1fKlpH__Kw0V6rC

You are cattle, you are not a real human but I don't want to see you suffer, jews do

>>509957698
>They have an entire movie
Who is they? The government that hates you and cant stop lying?
Pack it up guys, they have a movie

>>509957382
>nuclear fallout is bad
>Except for bikini atoll, Hiroshima, or nagasaki!
Kek. Retard.

>>509957385
KEK
>that's from democrats covering up the windows to not let the public watch them count votes.

>>509958279
>Except for bikini atoll, Hiroshima, or nagasaki!
Environmentalists bitched about the fallout from those too, you retard.

>>509958565
Environmentalists can complain about my dick. 0 radiation was observed.

>>509947790
>>509947444
Say unequivocally that the holocaust never happened but it should have. Can you do it? Fuck you kike.

People who believe in nukes need to rectify the first strike doctrine with the MAD doctrine in context with current wars using nuclear capable missiles.

If enemies are launching nuclear capable missiles, then the only way to assume that they are not going for first strike nuclear doctrine is if you know that nukes are fake. If you don't know this, then you would have to implement your M.A.D response doctrine.

>>509958825
the holocaust never happened but it should have, fag. I don't know why using logic or feelings somehow makes you a jew nowadays
If you want to say they're exaggerated and surrounded by propaganda, fine. But they're definitely real

>>509958672
>0 radiation was observed.
WTF are you talking about?

Even if we were to assume that videos posted ITT are in fact real, it is important to note that they show nuclear explosions rather than a nuclear weapon. In other words, just because it might be possible to pile bunch of explosives and fusion materials together over a couple of weeks for a big propaganda explosion, doesn't mean that you can miniaturize that and put it on a rocket. As such nukes would still be false in so far that they are not real, feasible weapon, even if actual nuclear explosion itself is real.
At best, you have videos of unknown bomb being dropped cutting to footage of explosion.

>>509957977
How do the cameras survive and why doesn't the radiation damage the film?

Fuckin retards, a teenager can build a nuclear reactor in their backyard. Just because you are all smooth brains doesn’t mean other people can’t make cool shit. Take a field trip to a power plant near yourself

>>509959137
0 radiation was observed. Peer reviewed sources agree.
>>509935494
>>509935494
>>509935494

How can you advocate for something you know nothing about?

>>509959321
The scale is also hard to quantify. Especially when shot from a low angle. What if they were done on a plateu so piercing the clouds is easier?

None of it adds up, and it's the most convenient excuse for war with anyone anywhere.

>>509958955
>If enemies are launching nuclear capable missiles
That's why they generally do not use nuclear capable missiles to launch weapons based on conventional explosives.
If you remember a few months ago, when Russia fired their new Oreshnik missile against Ukraine and everyone made a big deal about it, it was because it was the rare example of using ab inter regional range ballistic missile capable of carrying nuclear warheads that had been modified to carry non-nuclear conventional warheads.
They made sure to notify Ukraine, the US and the EU ahead of time, to make sure that no one thought it might be a nuclear strike, since it would have a very similar flight path to a nuclear armed missile.

>>509956282
>it's inconceivable that it didn't work like I expected it to
>why isn't it just like my Terminator movies??

>>509956360
>>509956418
>>509956451
Some propaganda was probably made to make our nukes look scarier. Does that mean all the million test videos from different countries are all propaganda? That everyone who witnessed them is lying? No.

>>509957021
Anything about WW2 is unreliable, there was insane amounts of propaganda everywhere. But there factually was a gigantic mushroom cloud at both locations

>>509956684
nukes are incendiary and cause massive fires. The towns were mostly wooden structures

>>509957365
>>509957295
>>509957074
>the radioactivity is weaker than the propaganda says
doesnt disprove their existence

all these suck and prove nothing

>>509959704
I mean, does it matter? Is there a single video of actual rocket acting as vehicle to deploy a nuke? Because all these random ass explosions don't really prove anything. Ability to film a nuclear explosion doesn't inherently translate to ability to weaponize it.

>>509959749
So your explanation is that they just trust their enemy won't implement nuclear first strike doctrine cos they promise not to?

Wow that is retarded beyond belief.

>>509959787
>>509959855
Let me guess, you met your life partner at a Holocaust museum?

>>509960187
>you're using logic and not gut feelings?
>you must be jewish!

every fucking time
see >>509944360 >>509958970

not an argument btw

they're fake, like moonlanding in 1950's

we still struggle to go to moon, then it was "peace of cake". same thing with nukes, countries struggle building them, then it was "peace of cake".

hiroshima and naga were among tens of cities bombed. no difference in destruction, tokyo were more destroyed. in horshima next day of the "nuke" there were tram running 50 meters from the IMPACT place, no radiation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJkqYihssKI

>>509959588
>0 radiation was observed. Peer reviewed sources agree.
No, you are just misreading/misinterpreting something because you are a retarded moron.
Engineers at Kodak started finding radioactive fallout almost immediately after the very first Manhattan project test, because the fallout was fucking up their x-ray film.
Certain sensitive science experiments require the use of steel salvaged from sunken pre-WWII battleships, because all steel produced since 1945 is contaminated with nuclear fallout from above ground testing.

>>509960396
What you typed isn't logic, its cope.

>>509959965
No, you are just retarded.

>>509924122 (OP)
Does anyone else see george floyd in the pic

>>509960560
Nah man. You are dumb enough to believe that they just trust their enemy won't nuke them on a promise.

>>509960505
they are logical reasons to dismiss each of your pics being proof that nukes are fake
you didnt even try to challenge them

honestly, a fruitful thread. My takeaway here is that shills post videos of nuclear explosions and not nukes. You don't see a nuke going down and making a boom, you see just an explosion, which likely took weeks to setup and as such is completely worthless as an weapon. In other words, we have come to conclusion that videos of nuclear explosions are not evidence of nuclear weapons! That's pretty great for a days work, if I can say so myself.
>>509960583
kek

niggers > nukes

>>509959403
I obviously agree with you, the video is propaganda

>>509924122 (OP)
Its funny you made this thread because i was just thinking about israel's situation. They dont submit to inspections, so how do we know of they *really* have any nukes? Because they ""stole"" them from the US? The US is their largest golem, of course they would *SAY* they stole nuclear materials from us and *totally* have nukes, trust us bro.
The illusion of having nukes is their most powerful tool of deterence.

>>509960781
Everything you you typed is contrary to logic and what we were taught about the nuclear weapons threat. They are a hoax. You are a joke. Thanks for making it obvious to lurkers what the agenda is.

>>509960890
You moved from "nukes are not even real" to "nukes are too big to be used as weapons"
I moved from "Nukes are definitely real" to "Nukes are definitely real but SOME videos/tests might be propaganda to make them look scarier"

fruitful

>>509961189
You will never be a real human

>>509960890
all explosions create "mushroom cloud". also if you want real cool SUNRAY type flash you can add Magnesium to TNT bomb. It will flash so bright it will hurt eyes

>>509924122 (OP)
Yes
> "It was my considered opinion, I told correspondents in Tokyo, that the effects of the atom bombs -- not of future bombs, but these two - had been wildly exaggerated. If dropped on New York or Chicago, one of those bombs would have done no more damage than a ten-ton blockbuster; and the results in Hiroshima and Nagasaki could be achieved by about 200 B-29's loaded with incendiaries, except that fewer Japanese would have been killed. I did not "underrate" atom bombs or their future potential. I merely conveyed my professional findings on the physical results of the two bombs - and they happened to be in startling contrast to the hysterical imaginative versions spread throughout the world.

> My findings were pounced upon an outraged anger by all sorts of people, and the press, on the air, at public forums; and by scientists who haven't been within 5,000 mi of Hiroshima. But the violence of this reaction cannot alter the facts on view and the two Japanese cities.

> I began my study of Japan by flying over Yokohama, Nagoya, Osaka, Kobe, and dozens of other places. Later I visited them all on foot.

> All presented the same pattern. The bombed areas looked pinkish - an affect produced by the piles of ashes and rubble mixed with rusted metal. Modern buildings and factories still stood. That many of the buildings were gutted by fire was not apparent from the air. The center of Yokohama, for instance, seemed almost intact and viewed from an airplane. The long industrial belt stretching from Osaka to Kobe had been laid waste by fire, but the factories and other concrete structures were still standing. On the whole it was a picture quite different from what I had seen in German cities subjected to demolition bombardment. The difference laying the fact that Japanese destruction was overwhelmingly incendiary, with comparatively little structural damage to inflammable targets.

>>509961365
> In Hiroshima I was prepared for radically different sites. But, to my surprise, Hiroshima looked exactly like all the other burned-out cities in Japan.There was a familiar pink block, and two miles in diameter. It was dotted with charred trees and telephone poles. Only one of the cities 20 bridges was down. Hiroshima's clusters of modern buildings in the downtown section stood upright.

> It was obvious that the blast could not have been so powerful as we had been led to believe. It was extensive blast rather than intensive.

> I had heard of buildings instantly consumed by unprecedented heat. Here I saw the building structurally intact, and what is more, topped by undamaged flagpoles, lightning rods, painted railings, air raid precaution signs and other comparatively fragile objects.

> At the T-bridge, the aiming point for the atomic bomb, I looked for the quotation mark bald spot quotation mark where everything presumably had been vaporized in the twinkling of an eye. It wasn't there or anywhere else. I could find no traces of unusual phenomena.

> What I did see was in substance a replica of Yokohama or Osaka, or the Tokyo suburbs - the familiar residue of an area of wood and brick houses raised by uncontrollable fire. Everywhere I saw the trunks of charred and leafless trees, burned and unburned chunks of wood. The fire had been intense enough to bend and twist steel girders into milk glass until it ran like lava - just as another Japanese cities.

> The concrete buildings nearest to the center of the explosion, some only a few blocks from the heart of the Adam blast, show no structural damage. Even cornices, canopies and delicate exterior decorations were intact. Window glass was shattered, of course, but single hyphen panel frames held firm semicolon only window frames of two or more panels were bent and buckled. The blast impact therefore could not have been unusual.

>>509961456
> Then I questioned a great many people who were inside such buildings when the bomb exploded. Their descriptions match the scores of accounts I had heard from people caught in concrete buildings and areas hit by blockbusters. Hiroshima's 10 - story press building, about three blocks from the center of the explosion, was badly gutted by the fire following the explosion, but otherwise unheard. The people caught in the building did not suffer any unusual effects.
> Most of the window panels are blown out of the Hiroshima hospital, about a mile from the heart of the explosion. Because there were no wooden structures nearby, however, it escaped fire. The people inside the hospital were not seriously affected by the blast. In general the effects were analogous to those produced by the blast of a distant TNT bomb.

> In Nagasaki, concrete buildings were gutted by fire but we're still standing upright.

> All of downtown Nagasaki, though chiefly wouldn't in construction, survived practically undamaged. It was explained that apparently it had been shielded from the explosion by the intervening hills. But another part of Nagasaki, and a straight, unimpeded line from the explosion center and not protected by the hills, also escape serious damage. The Nagasaki blast had virtually dissipated itself by the time it reached this area. Few houses collapsed and none caught fire.

> All destruction in Nagasaki has been popularly credited to the atom bomb. Actually, the city had been heavily bombed 6 days before. The famous Mitsubishi plant was badly punished by eight high - explosive direct hits.

- Major Alexander P. de Seversky

'Atomic Bomb Hysteria', by Major Alexander P. de Seversky
February 1946 Reader's Digest, pages 121 to 126
https://files.catbox.moe/62h6h7.pdf

>>509958955
Nuclear armed countries have nuclear submarines, hidden launch silos, bombers (including B52s that are always flying) that can appear suddenly and launch a nuke.
The first-strike country could never be safe from retaliation and destruction of its cities because its impossible to know where they all are

>>509961189
I haven't moved anywhere retard. I merely understood that "nuclear-like explosion" is not "nuclear weapon" and as such I can dismiss every single known nuclear explosion video as evidence of a nuke since what they show is literally not a nuke. Their veracity is irrelevant at this point because they don't show a nuke at all, but rather just an explosion that might've took weeks to coble together.
so unless you have actual video of rocket going down and making a mushroom, we have managed to conclusively prove that there is not a single video of a nuclear weapon at all. Again, great for a single day of work.

>>509961161
Now apply this type of logic to the Ukraine conflict. If NATO truly believed that Russia had nukes then how could they possibly trust that Russia wasn't trying to nuke them with the Oreshnik? The only way they could know with certainty is if they know that Russia does not have nukes. Otherwise they are just blindly trusting that Russia won't nuke even though Russia has constantly said that they will use nukes.

>>509959953
True
>>509960499
>SHUT UP
>STOP READING THE SCIEBCE
>TRUST THE EXPERTS!
kek
>pre WW2 steel
Spreading Isotopes doesn't mean nukes are real. It just means dirty bombs are real.

>>509961556
So you're saying that the M.A.D doctrine has become so powerful that no-one would ever try a first strike?
There's seem to be a lot of religious types who welcome the apocalypse. There are plenty of people willing to be suicide bombers. I don't think these types would care about nuclear submarines.

>>509924122 (OP)
>no one ever saw one used or tested..
a telling glimpse into the slavic mind

>>509961265
I denounce the talmud faggot

>>509961627
uh huh you started saying that midway through and it's bogus anyway
"Nukes are fake" means nuclear explosions are fake which is the whole reason why they supposedly faked hundreds of hours of nuclear test footage. It doesn't mean humans can't make a rocket or airplane strong enough to carry one. If they had t o be that big, they could just use TNT anyway, in which case you might as well just say it's that so you can keep denying the explosions too.
I see no reason why they'd need to be that huge, the math adds up and designs check out for what they claim

Blessed thread.
Can't wait til u retards put some brain power into covid snake envenomation theory. 2 years ago 'nukes arent real' woulda gotten you laughed out the room, but now it's on the cusp of going 4chan mainstream.

Covid envenomation was 100% evil kikes. I will single handedly make it happen and educate all you retards. 70% of the info u need is in the watch the water interview / documentary. Read the covid studies referenced in the docu. I have smoking guns.

Together we will nuke the kikes with snake venom vaxx (joke).

Everything youve ever been shown or told has been a lie. Every part of your world is curated to fool gentiles. Especially WWII. Why would nukes be any different?

>>509963133
This. Jews are a blight on mankind. 0 morality or consistency other than "gibsemedat". They are niggers.

>>509963133
>>509963363
>Why would nukes be any different?
because the jews are not that competent. You are assuming they are like living gods who never make serious mistakes and can fool the entire fucking world into denying their own eyes for centuries. They are not very competent about handling Iran and Gaza, I'll tell you that.
At the same time you likely call them subhuman and stupid.

>>509924122 (OP)
The truth about nuclear weapons is that the allies stole one from the Germans and the only reason for bombing Nagasaki and hiroshima was to compare the two in a display of power.

>>509963475
No, gentiles are trusting and easily fooled. Look into sandy hook, or 9/11, or covid, the sloppiness is glaring to anyone paying attention. But your reach pales in comparison to the entire media apparatus feeding us lies 24/7
>Gaza
You are making my point. The war in Gaza and Iran are being staged, its all fake my dude, you gotta stop trusting them

Nukes are so real in fact that the Jews recently made a hollywood movie about them.

>>509963475
Jews aren't smart, they just have 0 morality.

>>509963781
No way this is prepping people for claimed "nuclear strikes" on America or Israel!

>>509963765
>No, gentiles are trusting and easily fooled.
if it were just that then you could prove these conspiracies with hard, undeniable evidence. There are plenty of schizos out there trying

>Look into sandy hook, or 9/11, or covid, the sloppiness is glaring to anyone paying attention.
sure, those are very suspicious singular events. But they are not comparable to vast super conspiracies like nukes being fake that are deception at an impossibly large scale, very little of which could be called "very suspicious">>509963765

>The war in Gaza and Iran are being staged
that sounds crazy, why would Israel ruin the jews reputation on purpose and potentially cause anuddah shoah? They just think they are in the right and that they need to keep going

Just remember that every single military weapons goes through extensive ongoing testing to ensure it is fit for purpose, except for the most important one; the nuclear weapon.

>>509964637
nobody wants to rock the boat and peace is nice. The countries that have them are not looking to expand, except Russia who is still afraid of MAD

>>509964637
This. It's a welfare program for the military.

>>509962950
intredasting

>>509963475
correct. there is something about nation states as we know it. it's why they are so coordinated.

>>509965172
above*

>>509964254
>that sounds crazy, why would Israel ruin the jews reputation on purpose and potentially cause anuddah shoah? They just think they are in the right and that they need to keep going
You still dont get it. Youre playing right into their hand my guy. Everything youre shown is deliberate in order to further the agenda. By owning and operating the media Wurlitzer they can show you exactly what they want you to see when they need you to see it. This operation has been set in motion decades ago to bring the biblical prophecy to fruition. In their holy book it describes how israel is surrounded by enemies and is victorious over the amalek. You cant have a story without conflict, without bad guys being defeated, etc

>"Amalek was the first of the nations; but his end afterward will be even his perishing." This prophecy suggests that Amalek, as the first nation to attack Israel, would ultimately face destruction

I suggest you read Sage Hana's substack and Miles Mathis work for a clearer picture. Dont just open one PDF and gloss over it, you are going to have to actually read a lot of articles and investigate this stuff for yourself. Its impossible to say for sure, I dont agree with everything he says but I have reason to believe he isnt bullshitting us because you can verify what he's saying yourself and reach the same conclusion. Hitler was a jewish actor. Mussolini was a jewish actor. Everything you've ever read or consumed about WWII has been tainted by lies. Its all been set forth to fulfil the prophecy and usher in total global dominion

>>509924122 (OP)
The British detonated a few in the middle of Australia and a bunch of Abos have been complaining about it ever since. Are we supposed to believe that Aborigines would complain about a wrongdoing that was merely fictious?

>>509964870
Let's go with this further. What is the scenario where you see it is possible that the "nukes" do get deployed?

Because at the moment there is just never ending cope to explain why nukes have never been deployed since 1945.
So it would be interesting to hear the logic of when they would get used.
Because if you say something like "I can never see a logical scenario in nukes being used" then you are basically saying they don't exist in an abstract way.

>>509924122 (OP)
nukes are real but for one nuclear fallout isn't a concern and also the explosion size is not as big as they show in movie

>>509924122 (OP)
What's overblown is the Armageddon aspect, I guess this is what people mean when they say nukes are fake, because obviously the bombs exist but it's not the end of the world if we decide to launch them all no more than if we decided to all carpet bomb each other.

>>509965546
1. in retaliation to a nuclear strike
2. against military targets by a defending nation that's losing against an invading force (conventional war), even if the invaders also have nukes. The leaders will warn eachother immediately before that MAD is still in effect for nuking cities. And usage of tactical nukes will thus become normalized
3. They may launch nukes when their capital is being sacked and the leader is desperate, but he would use that as a bargaining chip first and only do it if forced to

>>509965775
Most likely scenario

>>509925933
The funniest shit is the possibility that though nukes are fake, in THEORY, scientists think they could work, so all of the people that have “nukes” and know they’re fake are terrified that somebody might actually invent a real one.

>>509965959
Well number 1 seems like a paradox. Nukes would only be used if nukes are first used by someone else.

There's probably not much difference between tac nukes and MOABs or the Oreshnik type attacks. This would suggest that if tac nukes are real then they would have already gone down this path many times since 1945.

The third scenario is problematic because it assumes that the leader is so egomaniacal that he would go down in a blaze of nuclear glory instead of negotiating to save his own citizens. If all it takes to deploy nukes is egomania/psychopathy then again, we would have seen nukes deployed many times since 1945.

>>509966619
you used chatgpt for this you problematic nigger cattle. are you not ashamed?

>>509954827
It does happen. The only example of their use against a combatant however was on soft wooden structures in Hiroshima and Nagasaki where you would want to maximize the blast radius to ignite said structures. In practice you would only deploy a ground burst for an enemy dug into bunkers or similarly under the ground. The Sedan test was a shallow underground test (akin to allowing a bomb to hit the ground as it detonates) and it created massive amounts of radiation in the area for ~7 months and even spread to neighboring states.

>>509966490
This is actually the most logical post so far. DEI basedentists, fearing that a group of big brained autists may actually work out how to do it. So then everyone pretends that they have nukes.

>>509966744
Nah man. Some of us can still think for ourselves.

>>509966880
Supposed to say "DEI basedentists"

>>509924122 (OP)
> are nuclear weapons the biggest psyop of all times?
No, Ba'al Earth is, we exist within a crater. History is mostly (((fabricated))).

Good luck to you all. Do not believe the lies.

https://youtu.be/UHXsv8zxgC8?feature=shared

USSR used nuke to stop gas well blowout in Uzbekistan

>>509926700
>You can't explain the cold war if you say nukes are fake
Its easy
>US claims to have nukes and bombs japan
>USSR then claim to have nukes
At this point the US cannot tell the world that they don't have nukes and as per my previous post maybe this is theoretically possible but as yet has not been done. The US cannot know that USSR is lying. So the deception must continue during the cold war. This holds up with how India/Pakistan (of all places) have nukes as well. Perhaps they cottoned on and realised they could claim these things.
At any rate they are fake and gay. imo this is because nuclear power is too good and nukes were deemed required to stop its spread. They also serve as an easy "country XYZ has WMD" style excuse as well as keeping the population in fear.
I am also unsure if radiation is bad in the way we are told.

>>509924122 (OP)
So, what destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and killed thousands that weren't vaporized because of its radioactivity? An H-Bomb is useless because it destroys what you're out to steal!

>>509968774
Yup
>no nuclear power (free energy)
>justify any war
>scare population into compliance

if nukes are fake and gay what was the deal with chernobyl and pripyat?

>>509966619
>This would suggest that if tac nukes are real then they would have already gone down this path many times since 1945.
no, because they are afraid it would escalate into nuking cities and full scale nuclear war. Nobody wants to rock the boat

>If all it takes to deploy nukes is egomania/psychopathy then again, we would have seen nukes deployed many times since 1945.
I disagree. What leaders capable of launching nukes have been crazy enough to just start a nuclear war and get nuked back in retaliation? We've had a few situations that came close, like the cuban missile crisis, but they were handled by logical leaders who didnt want to go down in history as the man who started the doomsday nuclear war


>>509968774
>The US cannot know that USSR is lying.
theres a 0% chance either side could keep that secret from the other. There were spies everywhere and they were literally working on the tests

>>509924122 (OP)
Based and theta pilled.

reminder only 1 spamming schizo here and 1 schizo with a website thinks nukes are fake

>>509969758
>theres a 0% chance either side could keep that secret from the other
It doesn't need to be kept secret. In addition it benefited both sides so playing along was perfectly acceptable.
>>509969445
>if nukes are fake and gay what was the deal with chernobyl and pripyat?
But those are not nukes and generally nuke deniers do not claim that nuclear power is fake. A pressure vessel exploding is not a nuclear explosion.
>>509968826
>So, what destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki
See image. Note the %s. Japan was firebombed extensively. Because its cities were primarily wood they burned well.

>>509969758
You still seem to think that the US and USSR were on opposing sides. Look into the the 1969 Richard Day Tapes

>"EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE AND NOBODY CAN STOP US NOW..."
>He said, as we listened to what he was about to present, he said, "Some of you will think I'm talking about Communism. Well, what I'm talking about is much bigger than Communism!" At that time he indicated that there is much more cooperation between East and West than most people realize. In his introductory remarks he commented that he was free to speak at this time. He would not have been able to say what he was about to say, even a few years earlier. But he was free to speak at this time because now, and I'm quoting here, "everything is in place and nobody can stop us now."
>there is much more cooperation between East and West than most people realize
They are two sides of the same coin.

>>509970191
>But those are not nukes and generally nuke deniers do not claim that nuclear power is fake. A pressure vessel exploding is not a nuclear explosion.
so nuke deniers believe in radiation, believe in chernobyl (fission reaction of u235), probably believe in the demon core (fission reaction of plutionium-gallium)
but you dont believe in putting all of that in a missile and doing fission there?
so if you don't believe in fission in missiles, you very definitely don't believe in fusion (using fission to fuse atoms into a bigger explosion)
just trying to find the line of whats real and whats fake and gay

>>509924122 (OP)
Nukes are real but shit like nuclear winter is fake. Japan proved that you can rebuild easily after the nukes

>>509970191
But hiroshima had a higher death toll than Tokyo brother. A nuclear bomb is perfectly capable of causing widespread fires, the fireball is hot enough to do so without an ignition source.

nukes are fake

>>509924122 (OP)
Correct.
>>509936805
>>509925933
This.

>>509972919
Part 2

>>509972953
Pic related is a good example of how the nuke hoax is used. Now extrapolate that to the Cold War and you've realized one of the biggest hoaxes ever devised.

>>509972919
>>509972953
>>509973035
Basado

>>509924122 (OP)
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuked with fake shit?

>>509974430
show flag

>>509924122 (OP)
biggest?
nah. christianity.
then covid.
then islam.
then the holohoax
then jews discovering america in 1492

>>509974571
jews have vpns and more 4chan passes than they ever needed
youre just as kikely to be jewish for having engaged him and trying to discredit whatever his 'memeflag' opinion is
shit is swapped now

>>509928118
you are a giga-retard

>>509975394
yeah the jews blend right in in asian society and their anti-antisemitism works so well over there
retard

>like 2 jews were important in founding the CCP
okay?