why does it take the groyper community to denounce those protestant extremist?

American Protestantism is virtually a religion unto itself separate from Christianity

>>510849085
interesting, have they read the new testament? I had to study it in school for three years

>>510849032 (OP)
I've been a protestant my whole life, but unlike other christians I find that we generally aren't very... I don't know how to put it.

Other christians will talk nonstop about their denomination and they try to make it sound like it's all-encompassing and the most important thing ever. You can't bring up any topics without them bringing up their faith. Protestants on the other hand are much more chill. We just believe what we will and keep religious matters to ourselves. What is said in the church stays in the church, you know?

I really hate how other christians aren't like that. You know, I actually DON'T want to go to church where everyone is chanting, lighting incense, wearing robes, and sprinkling babies with water. I LIKE that my church looks like a bank. I LIKE wearing formal business attire in church. Seriously just get the fuck out of my face with your gay trad larp.

Also America was founded by Protestants specially trying to escape Catholic religious persecution. We don't want Papists around here.

Christian’s don’t even defend our own white communities of course they won’t defend anyone else


They are pacifist faggots. The Israelites waged wars of extermination against their enemies.

>>510850444
You are a zogbot kike and cannot and will not prove otherwise and I am 100 percent certain of that

>>510850529
I didn't say anything about dying for Israel, but ok. Think what you want.

>>510849032 (OP)
TOTAL EVANGELICAL DEATH NOW

>>510850444
This shit is retarded, at that point it not even a real religion with theology or tradition or anything it’s just a mindset.
It’s what happens with you take the whole American rootless individualism mindset and apply it to Christianity.

>>510851527
Everything that's not "just a mindset" is a product.

>>510849032 (OP)
literally everytime i look this part kike spic faggot is doing the work of jews every single time, hes running their plays, hes supporting their plays etc id beat his little ass if i saw him when was the last time a thread like this was made from a nick quote in the OP where hes saying some really inciteful shit against jews!? its been YEARS. hes a fed asset and he could get fucked

>>510850444
>Protestants on the other hand are much more chill.
No you're not, you guys are just retarded
You guys are much more belligerent, but have no idea what you're talking about besides the same catch phrases and talking points that they inherited
>You know, I actually DON'T want to go to church where everyone is chanting, lighting incense, wearing robes, and sprinkling babies with water.
Because you're not Christian, you associate with an ambiguous network of book cults that don't even have the correct canon of scripture

>>510851865
>inciteful
insightful*

>>510851869
you catholics changed the ten commandments to make the commandment against idol worship part of another commandment to downplay its importants because you are idolotars you demand the worship of mary which you call veneration and that is a sin that will land you in hell, you claim under threat of excommunication that she was a virgin until death when jesus had physical brothers in the bible you despise the bible you are the ORIGINAL adopters of the dispensationalist lie that modern mongrel kike imposters were ever gods chosen people and nick himself has in recent history bolstered this harmful lie a lie that these protestants he refers to are under the spell of a lie i have been combatting that once again he has BOLSTERED


fuck nick fuentes and fuck the visibly jewish pope

>>510852058
>importants
importance*

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BECAUSE OF THIS:
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>Con Inc CO-OPTS the Immigration Moratorium Position
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>White People are DONE with Black Violence
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>The Effort to Delegitimize Criticism of Jews
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>The PSYOP to Undermine the Mass Awakening
https://rumble.com/v6ryto7-the-psyop-to-undermine-the-mass-awakening.html

>Jews HATE The Catholic Church
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>The Online Right Has Gone Full Circle
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>Your Body, My Choice
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>Most Banned Man In America | Jake Shield's Fight Back Ep.9
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>Nick Fuentes vs Gavin McInnes | Zionism DEBATE
https://rumble.com/v46ijyc-zionism-slightly-offensive-debate.html

>>510852134
hes a kike, buy a fucking ad

>>510849174
its not all protestants, its the evangelicals and yes they read the new testement but they really focus on genesis 12 and israel. i dont know what happened to them, i was raised evangelical and do not remember israel being that important, it was mostly fire and brimstone. a couple of my siblings are mega zionists and i dont know how they ended up there. its weird

>>510852247
the schofield annotated bible is what happened to them, but the catholic church was ruined by the dispensationnalist myth a thousand years ago the bible however remains uncorrupted and tells the unfiltered truth about these so called "jews"

>>510852058
>Immediately tries the 10 commandment shit
I feel second hand embarrassment
Go google where the 10 commandments appears in the Bible and then go open it and then go look at it
Try thinking instead of repeating the same retardation that pastor Jim Bob says to you (He didn't look into any of this shit either, he inherited this and is now passing the tradition on to you)

>>510852247
is the babylon bee and this joel evangelical? they read only the scoffield heresy bible?

>>510852392
>>Immediately tries the 10 commandment shit
>I feel second hand embarrassment

continue to feel embarrassed you should be>>510852392
>Go google where the 10 commandments appears in the Bible and then go open it and then go look at it
>Try thinking instead of repeating the same retardation that pastor Jim Bob says to you (He didn't look into any of this shit either, he inherited this and is now passing the tradition on to you)

i have read the bible several times cover to cover three different translations you clearly modified the ten commandments to downplay the command against idol worship because you are idolators you have never read a bible cover to cover or else you would not be catholic

>>510852058
I'm going to help you out here: the bible stories are fake and gay. They are all based on ancient babylonian myth which were plagurized into the bible when jews were their captives. Jesus is based on tammuz, the reborn king that comes a divine birth. They had Easter celebrated as ishtar. A child killing holiday. Christmas used to be called saturnalia. Semiticism is a saturn cult with christcucks being the designated cattle goys to milk. And boy are you assholes the cattle that keep getting milked.

>>510849085
When asked what he thinks about Christianity, Ben Shapiro responded "I love American Christianity!" Not specifying denomination, specifying nationality. That should tell you everything.

>>510852507
>i have read the bible several times cover to cover three different translations
Then you obviously can't fucking read, go google this and behold your argument fall into pieces until you completely forget about this and then keep spamming your same protestant NPC talking points
>you have never read a bible cover to cover or else you would not be catholic
You have never read the Bible because you don't even have the correct canon, you read part of the Bible and then made up false interpretations by shitting them out and saying "yes I am the arbiter of reality"
You people have no fucking self awareness, it's like you're not even people

>>510852523
HO LEE comparative mythology!? my one weakness!


hey of all those ancient books and stele that you base this on, fuck it ANY ancient text how many of those were "discovered" around the time of the enlightenment and how many were preserved and handed down through history?
give up? the answer is ALL OF THEM but one, the bible is the ONLY ancient text that we have had in human posession all through history, all those other "ancient works" were recently rediscovered literally every last one all of them

Christian Zionism is an Anglo Freemason creation. Protestantism was simply a fertile host for the ideology.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/1GFmauj8RnN8/
https://jamesperloff.com/tag/john-nelson-darby/

>>510852247
The kikes have deliberately subverted the Evangelical movement with literal Jew-and-Israel-worship as well as mainstream Protestantantism (faggotry, women preachers). Who let them do it? The Boomers.

>>510852619
why not just make the argument you want to make instead of asking me to google this i have, i have pointed it out to catholics and lost "friends" over it because they cant answer it and you clearly cant either

>>510852715
>Here's a false accusation
>Go check the Bible
>Hey man I can't do that you have to do this for me
You guys are literally just LARPers
You LARP that you're Christians and then you LARP that you "looove" the Bible
You don't love the Bible, you love that your false religion makes you the arbiter of reality and gives you no reason to change your life in any way
It is demonic

>>510852648
the catholic church believes in the same dispensationalist bullshit but they started believing it a thousand years earlier and demand you believe it lest you be excommunicated whereas protestantism is an umbrella term that just means christian but not catholic. all chirstian denominations are not as much fertile hosts for this idealogy but the only ideology that has formed any meaningful resistance against world jewry and therefore is the top priority to be subverted

>>510852620
Why are christcucks like this?

>>510850660
Southern Protestants started the klan and ran around hanging niggers and burning crosses. The federal government had to quite literally intervene.

>>510852866
>the catholic church believes in the same dispensationalist bullshit
This is literally heresy and has never been taught by the Catholic Church, protestants only know how to speak lies with confidence because they don't fear God

>>510852844
ad hom and no argument, you believe mongrel arab kikes were at one point gods pure white chosen people, you point your finger at sects of protestantism poisoned by dispensationalism meanwhile your entire church fell to it over a thousand years ago, your entire church is antichrist and is the whore of babylon spreading her legs to all pagan beliefs and incorporating them into her whore thighs until you are left where you are now, with an idolatrous polytheistic larp respected only by the beige to light brown the mysteries of christ are lost on the likes of you

>>510849085
These guys?

>>510852866
Lmao zionists actively try to get you to go to church. Semiticism as a whole is worship of saturn El yahweh. Christucks are the designated cattle slave class.

In saturnian myth he eats his children as a sacrifice. Is Jesus not the sacrificed son of God? If you take even the slightest moment to educate yourself it's really easy to see the scam of semiticism. And even where it's roots come from. Kikes literally copied and pasted jewish names onto babylonian stories.

>>510852945
>This is literally heresy

if i saw your dress wearing faggot pope in an aldies id beat the teeth out of his mongrel head, is that also heresy? and if so what are you polytheistic idolaters gonna do about it? nathan? thats what you are good at doin, nathan at all

>>510853024
did you know shapiro is hebrew for cherry often picked, or cherry picked many times? the more you know

>>510849032 (OP)
Yep these people hate Catholics. It's not a new observation.
(Around the time of 9/11 you had guys like Jack Chick claiming Islam was created by the Vatican)

>>510852972
>More lies
You are seething at something that does not exist
This "version" of Catholicism that you have in your head does not exist
If you have a problem with the Catholic faith and what it actually teaches, go ahead and give your issue
>inb4 there's nothing because you don't know anything about our position besides the same 90 IQ lies you learned from hillbilly pastors that learned it from their pastors and none of these people ever verified anything

>>510852682
>literal Jew-and-Israel-worship
one of my siblings wont speak to me because i told her she was idolizing israel and she immediately started in on how God curses those who curse israel. she became really angry when i told her the millinial reign can only happen once the jews are wiped from the earth. (except the 144k that convert)

>>510853031
>I'm a tough guy
You people are a bunch of emotional retards

>>510853138
did mary remain a virgin until death

is though shalt not make graven images a ten commandment?

are we supposed to have honorary titles for ourselves like father, rabbi, master and pope?


did jesus have earthly brothers?


are modern kikes race mixed imposters from satan?
you are an idolatrous polytheists

>>510852943
jews did that as revenge for leo frank
https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/opinion/359291/leo-frank-and-the-parade-of-horribles/

>>510853024
Saturn eats his children in greek religion. Totally separate belief set from Israelites. I’m not sure El ate any of his children in the Canaanite religion. If you have any of their stories I would be interested in seeing them.

>>510853193
you were like "thats herethy" as though you were some fucking crusader or cardinal when you are in fact a beige retard, fuck your visibly jewish pope

>>510853141
Show her revelation 3:9.


The Jews also talk about the fake Jews and all them erev rav


Revelation 3:9

9Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

ערב רב erev rav: This is generally translated as the "mixed multitudes" that went up from Egypt (Shmot 12:38). The association with "mix" is clear, but Kutscher agrees with Onkelos who translates it as "foreigners". Erev means foreigners in Nechemia 13:3, and there is a cognate word in Arabic meaning the same

Who Will Fight The MaShiach In The End Of Days?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-mmhQnnDGJA [Open]

Who is The Erev Rav? Do they 'run' the world? Are they an evil regime with a lot of power

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gr8N0wcAfvc [Open]

Rabbi Alon Anava: Erev rav will control the world


https://youtube.com/watch?v=XkSOjf12alQ [Open]

Mashiach Part 6: The Erev Rav - The Evil And Corrupt Of The Holy Nation

https://youtube.com/watch?v=G_uZjQaT4-Q [Open]


THE FINAL WAR AGAINST THE EREV RAV (w/ Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi & Rabbi Yaron

Reuven)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5NGKsrSsH0o [Open]

>>510853295
erev OR ereb means mixed, of the twilight or dusk, and MONGREL

>>510849032 (OP)
The United States is founded on Protestantism. Catholicism is just performative larping. Stop pretending like you actually believe in that shit

>>510853215
Did what? Started the klan or forced integration?


I don’t doubt Zionists brought the niggers here and set them lose. They believe chaos will bring moshiach. Hence their order from chaos motto.

>>510853374
kikes did that

>>510853330
Correct they are a mixed race brown people who proclaim to be the royal bloodline. Things are about to get mighty awkward when the real kings show up.


The glory of God is to hide a thing. We are watching. God will humble them.

>>510853457
Ok thanks for clarifying cool cool

>>510853330
Arab means the same thing they mixed their blood and became mixed that’s why the (((erev rav))) look like Arabs

>>510853199
>did mary remain a virgin until death
Yes
>is though shalt not make graven images a ten commandment?
Go look at the manuscripts and tell me where they're numbered
>are we supposed to have honorary titles for ourselves like father, rabbi, master and pope?
Yeah, titles are literally in the Bible
>did jesus have earthly brothers?
No, the tl;dr is that the Greek word used does not mean "blood male sibling", everyone knew this for 2000 years until Americans in the Appalachian mountains read the English word "Brother" and assumed it actually meant blood male sibling
>are modern kikes race mixed imposters from satan?
There's nuance to this, they're not literally racially imposters like a fucking scary movie, it means that that they say they're jews but are not, meaning they have rejected the New Covenant
Literally all of these are the same exact low IQ protestant talking points that have been explained to death for forever and you could just youtube it and find tons of videos explaining our position
You don't have to agree with it, but at least go find out what you're even seething about
It's like if I was arguing with you and accused you of submitting to the Jehovas Witness Watchtower
It's fucking retarded

>>510853489
>>510853532
>>510853591

very based i wanted to just clarify some of your points i hope you didnt mind and add a finer point to them

you can translate it erev rav OR ereb rab, because the hebrew bet is translated to either b or v, i prefer ereb because its almost certainly the true etymology of the term arab and i wanted to include mongrel because its directly translated as such in some bible translations and is more clearly the meaning than "mixed" keep up the good work

>>510853295
>Revelation 3:9
she says it not those jews. it isnan extremely touchy subject and i am going to leave it be. i dont want to agitate her and she just says im being hateful because im racist so its pointless. i honestly think my sisters got brainwashed about the holocaust in college or something.

>>510849032 (OP)
.....

>>510849032 (OP)
All christians worship a jew and hence are evil.

>>510853620
>>did mary remain a virgin until death
>Yes

no

And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name Jesus


>until

>>510853620
>>is though shalt not make graven images a ten commandment?
>Go look at the manuscripts and tell me where they're numbered

the correct answer is YES and he reitterated that command perhaps more than ANY other

>>510853620
>>did jesus have earthly brothers?
>No, the tl;dr is that the Greek word used does not mean "blood male sibling", everyone knew this for 2000 years until Americans in the Appalachian mountains read the English word "Brother" and assumed it actually meant blood male sibling


he had brothers and he directly contrasted them with his spiritual brothers, there is a greek work that means specifically step brother and specifically cousin they would have used that instead the greek word used here literally means from the same womb, you know like a cousin lmao

31 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.

32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.

33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?

34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.>>510853620
>>are modern kikes race mixed imposters from satan?
>There's nuance to this,


the answer was yes but you catholics have been cucking to them for literally over a thousand years jesus directly and indirectly said they were mongrel imposters over a dozen times, the old testament shows the vectors of the racial pollution several times

>>510853620
i notice you didnt even attemp to pil pul around this question and why not?>>510853199
>are we supposed to have honorary titles for ourselves like father, rabbi, master and pope?

whyd you skip this one?

>>510849032 (OP)
lmao the whole purpose of american prots is to serve israel

>>510852392
>>510852844
>>510853138
>>510853193

youre all going to hell btw Jesus hated jews with a burning fire

>>510849085
You are talking about dispensationalism not protestantism. Dispensationalism was promoted by the same Zionist bankers behind the Federal Reserve, and is the source of Christian Zionism.

>>510853835
>no
>And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name Jesus
Yeah your interpretation is wrong
>the correct answer is YES
Show me the number on the manuscript right now
>he had brothers and he directly contrasted them with his spiritual brothers
I didn't say anything about spiritual brothers, I said that the greek word used is not the 1 to 1 equivalent of how Americans in 2025 use the English word brother
It encompasses blood brother, cousin, family friend, it was a word that encompassed many different relationships into one word
You got anything else?
>>510853891
>whyd you skip this one?
I answered it, reread the post
>>510853928
>Green frogs are bad but use contraception and watch porn and "divorce" and "gay marry" each other
The absolute state of protties

>>510849032 (OP)
>>510850444
>MY WAY OF WORSHIPING JEWS AS GODS IS THE CORRECT ONE!

, ,, ,

there's a bunch of cunts like that

>>510854083
he had BROTHERS the greek word means literally of the same womb


>your interpretation is wrong


did you actually read the bible? the old testament included? not only is it a commandment its among the most important because god reitterates it so often, idol worship is a running theme throughout the entire old testament it is perhaps the MOST talked about commandment that is broken you downplay it because you worship idols, your statues and icons are literally idols you just call them by another name, you say you venerate the saints and mary and the icons and statues but there is no difference to the observer from worship, you just PIL PUL exactly like the mongrel pharisees did before you, you think you can trick god with clever verbage but like those pharisee kike imposters you are not clever you are brown

Clean your room while I cheer on the Genocide in Gaza & reminisce about Granny giant stinky vajj

>>510854227
money and equality are also prominent false idols today

>>510854227
>he had BROTHERS
Literally nobody in Christian history believed this until 200 years ago when Americans read the English word "brother" and said "Everyone got this serious detail wrong for 1,800 years until I showed up and interpreted the English word brother and also I have no training in greek or Church history"
>idol worship
This is a great topic to get to
My question for you, what is worship?
>inb4 prayer
It's not, we see that clearly in the Old Testament

>>510853626
You seem more spiritual than the average anon to know that. Very unusual. Are you an Israelite?

>>510854390
>>he had BROTHERS
>Literally nobody in Christian history believed this until 200 years ago

mark believed it and wrote of it in the bible you catholics despise
31 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.

32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.

33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?

34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

>>510854390
>>idol worship
>This is a great topic to get to
>My question for you, what is worship?


1 · to honor or show reverence for as a divine being or supernatural power ; 2 · to regard with great or extravagant respect, honor, or devotion.

Clean your room while I cheer on the Genocide in Gaza & reminisce about Granny's giant hairy stinky vajj

>>510854405
im a white man who knows the truth i am a christian

>>510854390
>what is worship
to serve the Lord your God with all your soul and all your might and lift up his name in praise

>>510854493
by that definition idolatry is literally impossible

>>510854389
verily

>>510854463
>Here's my interpretation of the Bible
Yeah I don't care and it's wrong
>to honor or show reverence for as a divine being or supernatural power
Alright cool, did you come up with this deffinition yourself or did you get it from somewhere? If from somewhere, where from?
>2 · to regard with great or extravagant respect, honor, or devotion.
I don't think you believe this because if you gave extravagant honor to your grandparent, you would jump up and down seething if anyone accused you of worshipping your grandparent

>>510850444
Chatgpt reply

>>510849032 (OP)
>Gazan Catholics support Hamas

Gee I wonder (((why)))?

>>510853650
Convert to Judaism and then start preaching that all goyim are to submit to Yahweh or be arrested and sentenced to death under noahide law.

She won’t be able to attack you for preaching Jewish ideas if you are sincerely Jewish. That will get around that mental block she has.


I go around the south all the time and talk about Jews and Christian’s attack me or won’t listen but if I say I am Jewish and that Jesus is a faggot and was rightfully executed they get super mad.


I’m actually Jewish and believe in Judaism so I act as the most stereotypical Jew I possible can and disrespect Christian’s as much as possible to try and destroy this brainwashing


I think I am Responsible for 75 percent of the rise in anti Zionism in America.
I’m not joking though I sincerely believe in Judaism and forcefully converting these heathens to one single worldwide religion. That’s the path to world peace. One global truth.

>>510853620
>>are we supposed to have honorary titles for ourselves like father, rabbi, master and pope?
>Yeah, titles are literally in the Bible
>>510854083
>>whyd you skip this one?
>I answered it, reread the post


thats my mistake but your mistake is the greater one by far let me educate you

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

>>510854493
>Doing good works and talking about how cool God is is worship

>>510854609
>>to honor or show reverence for as a divine being or supernatural power
>Alright cool, did you come up with this deffinition yourself or did you get it from somewhere? If from somewhere, where from?


it is the websters dictionary definition

>>510854654
>And call no man your father
We call our parents father and then the apostles use this word, it was not literal
This one is also low hanging fruit, all of these bottom tier arguments have been beaten to death all over the internet

This is the incident they’re referencing.
>Israeli settlers set fire to St. George Greek Orthodox Monastery and the Christian cemetery in the Christian village of Taybeh, West Bank.
>This is the place Christ sought refuge in John 11:54 before His passion and death called Ephraim.
Two other were killed and people were injured
The bombing happed after news about an attack in the West Bank as well

>>510854491
On the flip side Satan has a point. Why does God have a right to enslave or torture you?


Is your free will not truly freedom? If you can’t choose to be free of God and decide your own way of life then how are you truly free?

It seems like free will is bs if you are forced to worship god under duress and threat or torture with fire.

>>510853994
It's not just that, it's also prosperity gospel autism and how the dogma is twisted into
>everything you're doing is fine as long as you love jesus!
It's basically the fusion of capitalist ethos with the trappings of Christianity

>>510854771
>And call no man your father
>We call our parents father and then the apostles use this word, it was not literal

clearly based on context hes saying dont call men father as an honorary, nor call them master, nor call them rabbi


you call your priests FATHER which is directly against the spirit of whats being said, a direct contradiction, words like minister mean servant and there is an argument to be made that the meaning of the word changed sufficiently over time enough that this is in violation sure, but to call your minister FATHER is DIRECTLY counter to what jesus is saying here dont pil pul like a jew when you have been shown the truth you are beholden to nothing besides the truth

>>510854786
I mixed up the information. This is Saint George in the West Bank

>>510854687
>it is the websters dictionary definition
You allow the websters dictionary to tell you how to derive your theology? If they change the definition in a few years, will this impact your theology? Will you adapt your theology and arguments to cater to this websters dictionary definition?
I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm trying to highlight that maybe this isn't how Christianity is supposed to work

>>510854813
>On the flip side Satan has a point. Why does God have a right to enslave or torture you?

because he made the dust from which we are all formed he is sovereign >>510854813
>Is your free will not truly freedom?


im not big on free will you would have more sport arguing with a catholic about this

>>510854906

>>510854892
>clearly based on context here is my personal interpretation that I made up
Damn that's crazy bro but I don't really care

>>510854927
you asked for a definition i provided one we know idolatry and polytheism when we see it

for instance i revere king david, i revere mary, i revere paul, i revere peter, but i have never once been accussed of worshiping them, you need to examine your own practices

>>510849032 (OP)
only cucks still respect the babylon bee. like the elon musk republitards

>>510854964
23 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,

7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
the text is plain and you contradict it plainly by calling your priests father, let alone all the various titles for the pope

>>510854989
>you asked for a definition
I asked for YOUR definition and you bent the knee and delegated it to the masters of websters dictionary
>we know idolatry and polytheism when we see it
Wait a second, I thought you delegated authority to websters dictionary
What is idolatry?
Also polytheism is just retarded, there is 1 God, Father son and holy spirit, at least you guys got the trinity right

>>510855127
childish

The borderline illiterate Baptists and Nondenominationals who yammer on about their "personal relationship with Jesus" are stupid but are also to be infinitely envied compared to those contemptible retards who demand under pain of anathema that I pray to a mediator to reach the Mediator.

>>510849032 (OP)
Protestants were NEVER Christians.

>>510855162
>you asked for a definition
>I asked for YOUR definition and you bent the knee and delegated it to the masters of websters dictionary


my definition lines up pretty well with the websters, 99 percent of humanity knows plainly what worship is but you catholics


dont you see that you are pil pulling around gods direct commands just like the pharisees?


did you actually read the bible? did you read the constant admonishing of people who bowed to images made of stone and wood? how can you read that and not make a connection with the statues of mary and the icons and rosaries and so forth, this stuff is MATTER, matter has no power to hear or to save, jesus demanded you worship what is spirit IN spirit and truth

>>510855278
>99 percent of humanity knows plainly what worship is but you catholics
You are the only Christians that don't know what worship is and have no method of worship
The Catholics know it, the Eastern Orthodox know it, the Oriental Orthodox know it, the Assyrian Church of the East know it, literally every Apostolic Christian does the same thing
You guys got invented in the last few hundred years and when you threw away half of Christianity, you threw out worship altogether
Now you think prayer and vibing out to a rock concert is "worship" (it's not)
>did you actually read the bible?
Yes, I read the real canon, not your butchered canon that didn't exist until 200-500 years ago that removed books to suit your new religion

>>510853004
Wait until you learn who was selling hoods after the movie :^3

>>510855491
awoooo lol

>>510849032 (OP)
its judeo- that is the problem. and since these fucks keep saying this is a judeo- country we ought to be using judeo- as a prefix for every shitty thing that exists.

>If the world hates you,keep in mind that it hated me first.If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen youout of the world. That is why the world hates you. John 15:18-19
You really have to yourself stop and wonder, who benefits the most from driving people away from christianity and thus continuing the epidemic of spiritually dead people? The cure for this world is holy communion with god, this clown world is evidence enough of the consequences of abandoning god. I expect the anti-christian shills to redouble their efforts, they feel threateaned. This is a sign we are on the right path, else they wouldnt bother.

>>510849032 (OP)
Yes, protestantism goes hand in hand with zionism.
The Catholic church is, was and forever will be the only true church founded by Jesus Christ, our lord. Not some man from germany.

>>510855491
>You are the only Christians that don't know what worship is and have no method of worship

you are worshipping rocks my guy and glass pains and beads>>510855491
>The Catholics know it, the Eastern Orthodox know it, the Oriental Orthodox know it

>the catholics know it, the other catholics know it and lets not forget catholics


>>510855491
>You guys got invented in the last few hundred years and when you threw away half of Christianity, you threw out worship altogether
>Now you think prayer and vibing out to a rock concert is "worship" (it's not)

my entire life has been an act of worship, and people around here know me by name PURELY because of the work i have done in jesus name against the synagogue of satan, with nothing but the threadbare shirt on my back, meanwhile your church with its vast treasure influence and holy see what have they done against the synagogue in the past hundred years? they have not so much as sent me a damn fruit basket they are in league with the synagogue

>>510855491
>>did you actually read the bible?
>Yes, I read the real canon, not your butchered canon that didn't exist until 200-500 years ago that removed books to suit your new religion


if that were true you would cease from worshipping mary as well as the saints and your beads and statues and icons, you would know jesus had earthly brothers and if you read CAREFULLY you might even realize that your worship of mary "the queen of heaven" is simply ashura worship or ishtar worship rebranded you

>>510855748
>you are worshipping rocks my guy
You don't even know what worship is
When people stand up for the national anthem and put their hand on their heart, is everyone worshipping the American flag at the stadium as a deity? Do you even ask yourself these things? Have you ever tried testing your own preconceived notions to see if you're actually right?
>the catholics know it, the other catholics know it and lets not forget catholics
They're not Catholic, we all had our own beefs before you guys even got invented
The majority of Christians through history and walking the earth today are Catholic or one of these other apostolic Churches
You are a meme umbrella of book cults that sprung up a few hundred years ago
>my entire life has been an act of worship
Taking a shit is not an act of worship, you people are literally insane
>if that were true you would cease from worshipping mary
Mary is not a deity, we're not sacrificing animals to creatures

>>510855716
False. One needs to look no further than Cardinal Newman's concept of doctrinal development to see that the Roman Catholic Church has excused itself from the apostolic deposit. Evangelical Catholicism is the faith given to us by the apostles, not the Roman religion that has added additional new dogmas as recently as 1950. The apostolic deposit was granted to us over two thousand years ago. The Roman religion as we know it develops in unison with modernity.

>>510855976
>>you are worshipping rocks my guy
>You don't even know what worship is

i have provided a definition from websters that i tend to agree with. >>510855976
>When people stand up for the national anthem and put their hand on their heart, is everyone worshipping the American flag


you should not do that in the first place because you are swearing an oath, let me ask your definition of worship since i provided one and show how those who made shrines to ashura and zues were doing something measurably different with what you catholics do with your icons and statues, not to mention your patron saints of wine and this and that which are CLEARLY just the gods of these various things rebranded


12 But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.
>>510855976
>the catholics know it, the other catholics know it and lets not forget catholics
>They're not Catholic


so the eastern orthodox church is protestant?


>>510855976
>>my entire life has been an act of worship
>Taking a shit is not an act of worship, you people are literally insane


i was referring more to my work for the past several years my public work which anons here are more than familiar with i should not have said my entire life that was a slip in a moment of passion i will concede that point
>>510855976
>>if that were true you would cease from worshipping mary
>Mary is not a deity, we're not sacrificing animals to creatures


you plainly worship mary i have personally witnessed catholics bowing to statues of her and performing the sign of the cross, if you brought a greek time traveller to the present and showed him a catholic regarding a statue or painting of mary they would be sure that she was athena or minerva and im not entirely positive they would be wrong. i am likewise sure that if we were still a pastoral society youd be burning bullocks to her

Also, no Protestants did not remove books from the Scriptures. Rather, other traditions added books to the Scriptures. Protestants use the 66 book canon because that was the canon used in catholicity by the early church, whereas the books of the apocrypha were only used sporadically and in certain traditions. In fact, the Protestant canon predates the Roman one, as the Roman canon only became officially canon within the Roman Catholic Church at the Council of Trent, which itself was a response to the Reformation. Again, we didn't subtract anything from the scriptures, you merely added them. For example, we can see that Saint Athanasius rejected the book of Judith, and rightly so, yet none of the church fathers reject any of the Protestant canon.

This is why traditionally Protestants are taught that the apocrypha is a good source of wisdom, but only the scriptures that were utilized in catholicity are recognized as the inerrant word of God.

>>510856345
>But webster dictionary
You get your terms for theology from christ-killing jews, we get it
>so the eastern orthodox church is protestant?
No, they're Eastern Orthodox
It's not "Catholic and protestant", it's all the Apostolic Churches, protestantism, mormons, muslims, jehovas witnesses, talmudism, and more
All of these religions have their own claims for what happened in that desert all those years ago
Only one of them is right and some are more wrong than others
>I was referring to some arbitrary shit I made up
Cool
>you plainly worship mary
Because you said so? Yeah you're wrong, sorry dude

>>510849032 (OP)
A great question. They seem sincere and do in fact convert non-believers but sincerity is the bait and switch of a scam and so many are proven scammers. I don’t fuck with Prots vs Cath history so much as it is a personal preference of mine to pick and choose the best both sides have to offer. The Catholic Church is the mother of knowledge and tradition, an institution that deftly glorifies the holy men and women who died righteously to protect the written word. The Protestants have that Early Christian church energy that I and so many others love and use to feel close to the Biblical time and story yet it’s a mythos that the Catholics unfortunately look down upon.

>>510856587
>>But webster dictionary
>You get your terms for theology from christ-killing jews, we get it

provide your own definition then >>510856587
>>so the eastern orthodox church is protestant?
>No, they're Eastern Orthodox

eastern orthodox theologians refer to their church as catholic

>>510856587
>you plainly worship mary
>Because you said so? Yeah you're wrong, sorry dude

why do you suppose you get accused of worshiping mary where as protestants dont? what accounts for that in your view?

>>510856587
consider also since we are on the subject of the various splits, that the catholic church heavily discouraged the common man from reading the scripture for himself and refused to print and distribute a bible in the common tongue until around 1500 ad when other people did it first essentially forcing their hand? why did the church not want the common man reading the scriptures the implications are obvious imo

>>510856892
>why did the church not want the common man reading the scriptures
because they might be too stupid to understand what the words in it mean, like the evangelicals for instance

>>510856754
>provide your own definition then
The highest form of worship is sacrifice, we see this all throughout the Old Testament
Christ's sacrifice is now what we use in place of the animal sacrifices of the Old Testament
The New Testament is the body and blood of Jesus Christ
Christ's Last Supper was him instituting the mass, which is what we use to partake in his sacrifice every Sunday, and consume his body and blood as we are commanded to
This is what Christians have believed for 2,000 years
>eastern orthodox theologians refer to their church as catholic
Catholic just means Universal
They believe they are the Church that Christ instituted in the Gospels, our position is that they broke off around a thousand years ago
We have our disagreements but we would say they're probably 2nd place when it comes to who is closest to the truth
>why do you suppose you get accused of worshiping mary where as protestants dont?
The only people that say this are literally protestants
And you guys give this accusation because you don't worship anything, you don't know what worship is
So you see something and say "This is some type of Christianity but I don't understand it so it's bad and I guess this is worship and now I won't verify any of this but will start yelling this to everyone because I have no shame or fear of looking like I actually have no idea what I'm talking about"
Here's something I'll say: You make tons of serious accusations, many of them are false, but it comes down to "you don't actually know what our position is"
I encourage you to actually look at our position and then feel free to try and prove it wrong, because it's exhausting talking to you guys all the time because you guys start spamming the same misunderstandings and then the entire conversation is not a debate, it turns into me having to correct the errors you have about what you're even arguing against

>>510856892
>why did the church not want the common man reading the scriptures
Because it literally created you and the other 6 gorillion protestant religions that shattered Christendom and destroyed western civilization
As always, the Church was right

>>510857060
>>why did the church not want the common man reading the scriptures
>because they might be too stupid to understand what the words in it mean, like the evangelicals for instance
or maybe they didnt want people to know what it actually said all that stuff about jesus brothers and the numerous verses against idolatry, just a thought

>>510857219
yeah it created people like us because we read the bible and went "hold on a tic, you are doing and preaching the opposite of what god and jesus said to do" lmao


say a man has a lamp does he keep it lit and under a table? in a dresser drawer? no he puts it somewhere high up so that as much can be illuminated as possible

>>510849032 (OP)

>>510857344
>yeah it created people like us because we read the bible and went "let me just make some shit up"
You people have destroyed western civilization and you are the fathers of liberalism and trannyism (This is MY truth!)

>>510857412
practicing the religion as its laid out in scripture and making a point for EVERY MAN to read the scripture is far from making shit up, you can accuse us of a lot of things for being sola scripture but making shit up is more of a traditionalist thing for sure

>>510857412
>This is MY truth!)


consider we are arguing about a topic in Christianity you have your truth and i have mine, i am the one who would say, lets look to the scripture as an unbiased arbitrator between us and you would say lets look instead to the traditions of men which can and do change

>>510857559
First of all, you don't even have the correct canon
Second of all, this is not how Christianity ever worked
There was no Bible for the first centuries of Christianity
They had no Bible, they had the Church
The Bible came from the Church
The Bible says nothing about writing a New Testament, or compiling something called a Bible
The Church chose to do this because the Church is protected from having error in its official doctrines
Human beings have been illiterate for most of human history, God does not keep the truth hostage from people that can't read

>>510857393
>most famous graven images from each denomination

sick burn

>>510857797
not to mention the south is borderline retarded. now imagine having retards try to interpret it

>>510857788
Again you mischaracterize our position
My argument is "your position is false and nobody ever believed what you believed until 5 minutes ago and your canon is false"
"There was 1 Church, let's see which one is the one that has the best claim to history"

>>510857797
>First of all, you don't even have the correct canon
>Second of all, this is not how Christianity ever worked
>There was no Bible for the first centuries of Christianity
there were the scriptures that make up the bible,
>>510857797
>he Church chose to do this because the Church is protected from having error in its official doctrines


didnt protect them from saying that antichrist jews are saved without having to believe in jesus now did it? didnt prevent you from spreading your legs to all varieties of pagan practices now did it

let me ask you straightforward what YOUR interpretation of this scripture is and how is the catholic church not in violation of it?

23 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,

7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
what am i missing here what is the spirit of what is being said by christ

>>510857906
>s "your position is false and nobody ever believed what you believed until 5 minutes ago and your canon is false
you would do anything but address the discrepencies between the catholic traditions and doctrines and the scripture i have shown you that is available in both your cannon and mine.

>>510857859
>>510857817
>painting
>graven
case in point

>>510849032 (OP)
protestants or zionist "protestants", because there's a difference.

>>510850454
i guess timmy didn't do shit

>>510858013
good thing catholics dont bow to any statues then OH WAIT, you are employing pil pul to avoid practicing the spirit of gods law

>>510857968
>there were the scriptures that make up the bible,
Yes, and some of these manuscripts were not inspired
There was no Bible until around 400AD
Those first century Christians did not adhere to your doctrines
>didnt protect them from saying that antichrist jews are saved without having to believe in jesus now did it?
You're talking about something from Vatican II and you didn't read the document
Go read it (You won't), but yeah your conclusion is also false
There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church, this is established dogma, doesn't matter what race you are

>>510858114
don't you have an episode of veggie tales to stream

>>510858013
So I can worship and bow down to and sacrifice animals and children to an image so long as it's not hewn from stone?
Good to know where your theology is at

>>510858171
>>510858167

>>510858012
>You have to fit everything that is in Catholicism into my 66 book canon
Nope
Bible says nothing about having to do that, that's a demand you're making because you want it, not because it has anything to do with being true

>>510849032 (OP)
They're just completely cucked and subservient to Israel

>>510858012
The scriptures compiled by the Church.

>>510858133
its my position that early on the church was good but quickly got subverted by satans synagogue, there is a reason i want you to address this its not just a cheap gotcha >>510857968
Jesus was doing away with temple religion and doing away with rigid hierarchical arangements of men that all are equal under god, who believe in jesus, do you agree so far? the catholic church was swiftly subverted and its hierarchal system where a man not god is the authority on earth is far easier to subvert and more useful to subvert than the church as a group of believers equal under god, you take leadership roles just as they took the seat of moses in israel and then from the top down you can corrupt the entire church easily. look at it in a political sense us far right wingers are wary to join any similarly arranged hierarchical movement because its vulnerable to being subverted by feds they take the leadership spot and then everyone goes to jail its a very similar concept, the catholic church is VERY hierarchical and its leadership despotic and the ultimate authority, its ripe for usurping by satand and he did it pretty quick

>>510853222
It's the same God. Jews worship Saturn but call him a different name. Why do you think Christmas used to be called saturnalia? Why the day of the sabbath is on saturnday?

El yahwah = saturn = cronos = set

>>510858360
>Here's my fan fiction based on baptist theories from the South
Yeah that's wrong

>>510858198
Answer the question, idolater
You fine with sacrificing to images as long as they're not from stone?

>>510858279
granted see my post here>>510858360
>>510858201
>>You have to fit everything that is in Catholicism into my 66 book canon
>Nope
>Bible says nothing about having to do that, that's a demand you're making because you want it, not because it has anything to do with being true


your reply has nothing to do whatsoever with what you are replying to, i am pointing out that much of the catholic churches dogma is found nowhere in the scripture that we BOTH agree on and is often in direct contrast to the words of god or jesus christ, you want to yap about the churches early glory days and what good i freely admit they are responsible for rather than discuss why they go directly against the commands of god that both our canons are in agreement on

The protestant church in america failed in propecting american from circumcision.

>>510858420
you are getting angry instead of addressing what a wrote, take a breath and read through it when you are less angry i have to leave soon anyway

>>510853959
Jesus is a really obvious fake character so he can be anything you want him to be, and he often is to delusional christcucks. Christcuck belief is completely malleable on purpose.

>>510849032 (OP)
>christians
>catholics

>>510858469
circumcision in america was pushed on medical grounds not religious, jews did push it due to a misunderstanding of the scripture though it is to this day pushed by doctors on mothers when they have their infants on medical grounds not by pastors

>>510858490
>>510858465
>>510858360
>>510857788
>all lowercase
Log off.

>>510858469
circumcision doesn't mean anything these days, it's just tradition and cultural

>>510849032 (OP)
>>510854863
The retarded thing is pretending protestants are a single thing. It's not even an accurate term, the real protestants are lutherans. Joe bobs strip mall "Christian" center is not a development of the reformation, it's something that happened much later. The reformation is simply a historical event. This is like calling people coming back from Iraq "veitnam vets"...but worse.

Nevermind that catholicism itself changes all the time and many early catholics would rightly reject modern heretical dogma on the strongest terms. They don't share a faith. Catholicism I'd a development and ot will continue to devolve.

>>510858866
true, if a buddhist protests a catholic doctrine they are a prottie now

>>510858807
i wrote an argument in good faith we could have had a good discussion about it but you are irrationally angry because your denomination requires you to hold a bunch of positions that are indefensible. its so bad you cant even interpret scripture for me when i ask

23 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,

7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
a decentralized organization without hierarchal leadership structure is objectively more difficult to subvert and clearly jesus is calling for it here i ask agian if i have misinterpreted this scripture interpret it for me, enlighten me i will keep an open mind.

>>510849032 (OP)
Roman Catholicism established itself as Anti-Christian in Trent. That many modern Protestants are overcharged with Judaized idolatry and all manner of sexual perversion thereof, does nothing for older apostate sects, namely Papistry. And no spic is here illuminating a damn thing. But if you are White and Orthodox or Roman Catholic, or Protestant or Heathen or Agnostic and can acknowledge the genocidal agenda against the White races, please have a seat anywhere, there is much to plan.
Nevertheless, Jesus Christ is Lord and God and the Lamb Slain from the Foundation of the World.

>>510858490
>you are getting angry
No I was angry at the start, now I'm just tired and I've had this same conversation with you people a million times already
I'm being kind of a dick so actually I apologize, I'm talking to an anon so from my end it's like talking to a clone of the same anon every single time saying the same things but you're a real person that I've never interacted with and I need more patience so I'm sorry
Anyway, I encourage you to look at the writings of the Early Church Fathers, prior to the council of Nicae, which I believe is where many of you guys think the Church suddenly just decided to make a whole new, more complex and deep religion because they're some mustache twirling bad guys from a movie
Look at the writings of Clement, Ignatius, and Polycarp
These men learned the faith from the Apostles, they will either align with what you believe or the Apostles couldn't even pass down the faith to a single generation that followed them

>>510858907
>LLM can't read IDs
Very dark times when inhuman things are typing in every single thread.

>>510858933
>No I was angry at the start, now I'm just tired and I've had this same conversation with you people a million times already
>I'm being kind of a dick so actually I apologize,
say no more, to be honest with you a storm is approaching and my birds are driving me fucking crazy as well, they are too young to understand that when im in a low mood i dont want them jumping all over me, taking trash out of my garbage etc.


what is the definitive in your opinion book on early church history i have been meaning to read up on it anyway i have read certain things like against heresies and so on but i want a more complete understanding, the older the book is the more likely i am to read it thanks brother

>>510858984
im not a bot im jacob anthony mcqueen im just distracted by birds and a low mood from an approaching storm. my two fledgling starlings are currently having a royal rumble on my lap, any other time it would be cute im just not in the mood

>>510849032 (OP)
All Catholics must be removed as soon as all Jews are done being removed

>>510850444
When the fuck was the Anglican church papist, Maryland was founded by Catholic refugees.

>>510858360
"The early church"

Reminder that jews stole stories from ancient Mesopotamia during their time in captivity. After 50 years they basically have the same stories as the babylonians just with Jewish names copied and pasted.

When are you going to learn that kikes are identity thieves? They stole the myths of the babylonians and now you worship their half baked kike slave denomination.

To say the church was once good is delusional. Semiticism was always a saturn cult from the very beginning with christcucks being the designated cattle class. What do you think the word goyim is and how it's used? Gentiles are cattle to jews. Jesus myth fits right into saturn eating his children. You are meant to emulate saturns devoured/sacrificed son. Your purpose is to be sacrificed to jews, as a son of semitcism. Now be a good little christcuck and turn like the cheek like your jewish masters command you, otherwise you are going to burn for eternity.

>>510859106
after the jews and muslims annihilate each other

>>510859119
Puritans considered the Anglican Church to be insufficiently purified of Roman influence.

>>510849032 (OP)
Christians in the West are the biggest jew servants on the planet

>>510859194
They didn't steal them they were influenced by them. Same way Romans didn't steal Greek mythology.

>>510859037
A book I have that I believe you will like is "The Apostolic Fathers Greek Texts and English Translations"
It's no nonsense, literally just the writings of the men I mentioned already and it gives you the left hand page in Greek and the right hand side in English
I was mean because you said things that weren't accurate about our position and I got mad
I want you to learn as much as possible and try to prove us wrong, we will have better conversations in the future and my personal bias says that learning about the early Church and what our actual position is will lead to your conversion (Not a conversion to a false Catholicism that you think we believe in, but the actual position that we have, which I don't think you fully understand yet)
This is not intended to sound belittling or anything like that, I think all people should investigate these things further, it's something that we all need more familiarity with

>>510849032 (OP)
I don't need a brown immigrant arch-sodomite larper to tell me zionism is bad

>>510859194
the similarities in my experience are never that substantial when i look into them, broad thematic similarities but you comparitive mythology types nearly always exaggerate the more significant sounding similarities, albert pikes morals and dogma is 20 percent astronomy and 80 percent similar comparative mythology i dont find it compelling

>>510859216
It is retarded, since the Anglican Church rejects the papacy. They are just butthurt it isn't autistically calvinist as they want.

>>510859295
i love many catholics im sorry as well for misrepresenting you, i would literally JOIN i would love to join if not for two issues, they will go against me when i tell the truth about who these so called jews really are, its too important for me to quit. and the placing of mary at such a high pedestal, but i dont want to drudge up these differences while we are reconciling, i will definitely read the apostilic fathers greek texts and english youve done me a huge favor by recommending it, there is much i love about the catholic church not the least of which being the people

>>510859106
The Vatican must be cleansed, or burned. But there are many God-fearing rank and file Roman Catholics that don’t put their confidence in the “Church”, but in the blood of Jesus shed on Skull Hill to wash them of their sins, and the power of the Risen Christ to make them alive to God, through faith, for good works for God’s glory
>>510858933
Your premise is flawed, anon. Throughout Acts and the Letters, the Apostles often had disciples that became heretics and apostates, and no few that were plenty immature. Ingatus and Polycarp writings aren’t perfect.
>Your sacred cows are starving you

>>510859271
Delusional. They stole them.

Babylonians had their own myths. Semites had their own.

For example, Babylonians had a sacred garden where enki eats forbidden fruit of knowledge and becomes sick.

Jews did not have a garden of eden story before babylon. After babylon they suddenly have one but with a bunch of jewish names attached.

They completely stole the stories. When are you going to learn that jews are identity thieves?

This is the modern day basis of the semitic cult. Ancient babylonian mystery school stories. Which means your Bible is fake and gay. Jesus myths come from this culture. It proves the semitic scam.

>>510849032 (OP)
protestantism is just judaism with extra steos

>>510859447
No problem dude, I hope we continue learning much more and maybe some day years from now we'll talk again, more informed and not even know it

>>510850444
>America isn't a nation it's just a set of ideas

>Christianity isn't a church it's just a set of ideas

You would be better served knowing any of the history of your religion. Which by the way was preserved BY that religion.

Even on it's face it would seem one is quite mislead to endorse a Protestant(Protest) church when you have the Orthodox(Original) church or Catholic(Whole) church being the only thing anyone in the past would have recognized as Christianity for over a thousand years.

>>510859615
maybe we'll dine together in paradise who knows :)

>>510859319
Why was Christmas used to be called saturnalia? Why do jews celebrate the sabbath on saturnday? Why did semites willingly choose set as their god when they ruled Egypt?

Its not me doing comparative mythology. I'm pointing out what semites themselves worshipped. They worshipped saturn. As El yahwah, set and cronos.

>>510859454
>Ingatus and Polycarp, students of the Apostles and some of the only writings from the Early Church had to be heretics because they're too Catholic
I get that you are forced to hold this position for any of your position to make any sense but come on nigga

>>510859651
i dont know man i gotta go read this fucking book, it is 800 pages long and not a single picture in it! last time i take a book recommendation from a papist

>>510859643
I hope so bro
I'll pray for you, please pray for me, I need it

>>510859528
Who invited rèddit? <yuck>
>>510859300
BP

>>510859756
i know so

>>510849032 (OP)
They're sleeper liberals, almost all Christians are sleeper liberals unless their denomination is ridiculously strict, borderline Amish. Most Christians buy into progressive "tolerance" faggotry, it's the little things that grease the slippery slope and embolden serious degenerates to crawl out of the shadows. If America wants to heal it needs to eliminate meme denominations on the national stage, Catholics and Mormons should be outright flogged with righteous denunciation but Prots can be reasoned with through dialogues to come back to the light.

>>510859811
Stop it with the sportsball semiticism. "This is the based version of jew dick sucking".

I've already explained to you that semiticism was a scam from the start for gentiles.

>>510859528
Did Journey to the West also steal the part about the monkey king eating all the fruits in heaven to become immortal?

The whole purpose of thos mythologies is to influence the people. There is no law that says you can't take it and make it better. Here you are with your american flag saying you can't have freedom of speech to do what Weird Al Yankovich does with music. You should move somewhere like the UK where you can't speak anymore.

>>510859528
fake ass traitor here in the US, I hope Trump ICE comes for you.

niggers

>>510859923
How very jewish of you to argue for stealing other people's myths/identities and adopting them as your own.

>>510859699
Didn’t say heretic, frogposter. Just not perfect. The big ball and chain around most Roman Catholics is allegiance to errors in precedent. I love the Church Fathers, the Desert Fathers, Augustine, St. Boniface, St. Patrick, Thomas Aquinas, St. Francis of Assisi and others. Certain not heretics.
>frogposters are shills fighting strawmen

>>510860039
>They got Christianity wrong immediately and nobody figured it out until 1500 years later
I just don't buy it, dude

>>510859811
>>510859918
To add to this, sportsball semiticism refers to how jews figured out that they could profit off goy arguing amongst each other. It's a way to extract resources/money from them while keeping them subdued. Just like how they own all these different sports franchises/leagues and have goys from one state to another at each other's throat, paying of course, about which negro can put a ball through a hoop better. They've set up an extremely similar system with all the denominations or christcuckery. Why do you think jews allow christcuckery if it's so dangerous to them? Do you really think this is some special resistance that's untouchable? Its also preying on your ego here.

>>510860184
>frogposters are shills fightings strawmen
I didn’t say they “got Christianity wrong” you absolute bell-end. But you know who did, and who would piss off Polycarp and Justin Matyr and St. Ignatus, and St. Thomas and Constantine, it would be there heretics that demand the immaculate conception, perfection and assumption of Mary, those many “Popes” and associated assassin cults who reject the teachings of the the Lord Jesus Christ and the Apostle John and Peter for the sake of their own traditions (forbidding to marry, and calling men father)
The list of Roman Catholic heresies and aberrations against the Holy Bible are too numerous to fit in this thread limit, and again, your sacred cows are starving you.
But most Christians will die immature, and the wisest will always know they are always being sanctified (blessed are the poor in spirit)
Anyway. If you love Jesus, the Man, more than the religion about him, be at peace.

>>510860667
>Muh interpretation
Nobody cares dude
Your canon's not even right
I'm gonna get off now because I've been in here yelling for too long
I'll pray for you, please pray for me

>>510860226
Plenty of German Christians in the NSDAP. It is a cucked version of Christianity the Jew inflames, the kind that doesn’t incarcerate or exile from the nation: pornographers, usurers, idolators, and those who practice witchcraft.
But thank God that genuine Christianity has a rich heritage of exactly that, and the Jew (and jew-adjacent fraternities) finds no purchase therefrom, and will again.

>>510852193
Post nose with timestamp
>you won’t.

>>510849174
They read it, begrudgingly. They adore the Old Testament.

>>510859918
>>510860226
Why then did western nations despise and alienate jews/muslims for almost 5 centuries? They knew the ways of the sandniggers and as civilization advanced, they relaxed their strict tenets because they require effort to keep up. The problem with people is they are slaves to instant gratification, jews in particular recognized this ages ago AND used it against everyone who got in their way to great effect. Most whites are too proud to admit this simple truth or bargain when confronted about it, describing insignificant instances where they have gone without something BUT it's not embedded in their lives as a tenet or rule. They are not praised or rewarded for going against instant gratification, therefore instead of fighting it, they subconsciously accept it as normal. The whole point of religion was to rein-in average plebeian instant gratification, appreciate what resources one has and manage them with reason but the whole concept of organized religion couldn't avoid corruption like most systems, people ceased doing their part to maintain it. Denominations are a schism created by kikes, that's how they initially created judaism out of yahwism, it was their first "mitosis" and people noticed even back then.

>>510849032 (OP)
The German protestant church is much worse. Transfers money from the pockets of dumb boomers to ships who pick up niggers and pisslims in north Africa and drop them off in Italy , Greece, Malta. Run a billion euros rapefugees industry. The Cucktholic is pretty much the same shit imho

>>510861151
This is why the best defense against kikes is to banish or kill them because if you don't, you invite poison into your midst. Nations need cultural/racial boundaries especially against obvious antagonistic elements, just like tribes needed to manage themselves in their much smaller living space so as not to kill themselves out of allowing in outsiders or giving into over-indulgence. Politicians claim we need immigrants in our nation and yet, what they really want is foreign investment at the urging of kikes, the immigrants are just undesirables being used as compensation for said investments. This is why kikes are all over investment banking and private equity, it's the simplest position of power to keep the scam going against the white civilization that banished or killed them for centuries.

>>510858362
The most high god described by the Israelites has no humanoid body or form. He is a great spirit that created all of the gods. Saturn would be one of the giants or old gods. Not the creator.


One has a humanoid form and one doesn’t. Yahweh would have came prior to chaos and the primordial in Greek. These are my beliefs so I know them very well.

>>510854934
The creator gave the gods the ability to rebel so he must care more than you.

>>510849032 (OP)
We'd still be dumping our own shit out of the window and riding horses without the reformation.

>>510850444
>specially trying to escape Catholic religious persecution
RETARD ALERT

>>510860912
Thank God? What god? Yahweh El saturn, the Jewish God?

It really pisses me off when christcucks say "god" without actually identifying him. It's such a low iq way of speaking. Slave talk, even.

>>510862246
Saturn was earth's primordial sun. He was not a humanoid, you dumb fuck.

>>510863198
The One aboves this AI God.

https://demonicscans.org/title/Cosmic-Heavenly-Demon-3077/chapter/54/1

>>510863430
That's not a real answer. I suggest educating yourself on these subjects before discussing them.

>>510863538
Educate about what? There is no one in this entire earth who can compete with Me in term of Absolute Power.

What can you teach Me?

>>510849032 (OP)
>Are protestants in american politics christian or a force of evil?
They are Jews. The only Christian Church is the Holy roman Catholic Church. Protestants are retards who left the reservation so long ago they have no idea where they are anymore.

>>510850444
>I LIKE that my church looks like a bank. I LIKE wearing formal business attire in church
I'm sure Jesus would approve of his bank like church LMAO

>>510863309
Retard

>>510849032 (OP)
American political Christian’s are either babes in Christ that are being held in bondage by legalism or they are apostates seeking to be justified by works in which they just like Abraham producing Ishmael are trying to force Gods prophecy to come true on their own. This is Babylon. Has fuck all to do with God’s plan. It’s just man larping with cults trying to control the narrative of the book, and god calls these cults out in revelation by putting the whore to death for fraternizing with Satan. The reasons for this are obvious, having done this, the whore has subverted the generations understanding of Satan’s character and slandered God by gatekeeping the gospel and its understanding of faith from billions of people, for this, God will utterly annihilate the religion
The law (religion) has nothing to do with salvation, The moment you believed the gospel you were perfected, because God imputed his righteousness to you the moment you believed. You’re still in this body on earth for God’s purpose of reaching others through you. Meaning you’re not even doing the work, the holyspirit is. This is why when you look at religion, you’re seeing GUILT riddled all over it, they’re acting out in fear, because they don’t trust what Jesus did to save them.

It is literally all coming down to where you put your faith. Do you believe that Jesus is the Son Of God, shed his blood for the forgiveness of your sins, died, was buried, and rose again 3 days later according to prophecy? Do you take this to mean that you are at peace with God and he has rectified the problem for you?
(You should, this is what it means to consider yourself dead to the law, you’re not religious in the sense that you’re trying to justify yourselves, the law will only condemn you, simply rely on what Jesus already did at the cross. Gods demanding a clear conscience, not you having a perfect church attendance record and an AIPAC membership)

"...and for destroying the destroyers of the earth.”
diaphtheírō (from 1223 /diá, "thoroughly," which intensifies 5351 /phtheírō, "defile, corrupt") – properly, thoroughly corrupt, totally degenerate (disintegrate); waste away by the decaying influence of moral (spiritual) impurity; "utterly corrupt"; becoming thoroughly disabled (morally depraved), "all the way through" ("utterly decayed").

>>510849032 (OP)
They are Christian and also a force for evil.
American Protestants are an apocalyptic cult.

>>510852058
I have an alternative theory. Christianity is nonsense because Christians believe that a middle easterner from 2000 years ago will reappear one day, bring the dead back to life, and set up a utopian heaven-on-earth for a period of time. There might be problems with other religions, but they don't believe anything as retarded as that.

>>510849032 (OP)
Non whites always stick together and defend each other and groypers are foreign races

>>510865088
> groypers are foreign races
Nice digits kike. Post nose.
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