Thread 512892441

Have you taken the Ammon Hillman pill yet?

>>512892441 (OP)
>Ammon Hillman pill
How about you speak like a normal person?

>>512892441 (OP)
This man is a moron and a liar. But he tickles your ears so I'm sure you love him like the good goy slave that you are.

>>512892441 (OP)
have you realize he's full of shit yet? anyway, been a while since one of you Hillmanite shills made a thread. hows it going? new stupid drug fueled video out or something?

>the guy who was fired for sexual harrassment on his students
>has been btfo on his botched interpretations
>has the theatrics of a meth head
look, jesus is slave morality and not good. molesting children and doing weird drug rites? bro...
you didn't need to go that far.
jesus is a jew and tried to reform jews. not for europeans/blacks/asians. FOR JEWS.
who gives a shit

>>512892578
He has a Phd in Greek languge. He is a real expert.

>>512892441 (OP)
Is that my nigga Danny Jones on his podcast discussing financial strategies in an everchanging marketplace?

Yeah Im thinking Im jonesing for jones

>>512892659
Sorry bro, the original Bible was written in Greek, and in it Jesus clearely states '' I am not a CHILD TRAFFIKER" when he is arrested by roman police at 3 am in a public park with a naked kid.

>>512892703
and yet still can't make even a beginners case for why his bizarre and unique definitions of words like Lestes and Sindon mean what he says they mean.

>>512892703
>takes groans sexually
OH GOD! YES BABY!
>begins whipping himself with a ridding crop
HARDER DADDY HARDER!

>this is the unionic 'expert' on greek language
>>512892824
the original bible was not greek, but ripped off of greek tales like platos noble lie.
i really don't care about if jesus was raping kids or not.
he was a jew trying to reform jews.
i am not a jew.

>>512892824
go on, make the case for leistes meaning only that in all times and places. you cant. he cant. none of you can.

yet you guys repeat it endlessly because you got taken in my some rambling youtube video.

>>512892441 (OP)

What an absolute joke and pathetic edgelord loser this guy is. I mean just the biggest reddit fedora atheist of all time. Total and complete failure. I hate that people give such a loser and a failure a platform. I’m not religious, so nothing he says can trigger me or offend me, but I just can’t believe that someone who is just such an absolute joke is able to gain such a wide audience. If I put on a fedora and say Christianity is a joke will people fall all over themselves to have me on their podcast and contribute to my patreon?

>>512892842
he has 2+ years of videos on his you tube channel Lady Babylon where he does that ad nauseam

>>512893098
ive looked. ive asked. im asking you. as usual you have no idea whatsoever how to back up the claims you start making. its like this every single time a thread like this is started.

why cant you guys ever do any prep? and i dont just mean maybe having a link to one of his 1 hour waffling druggie rants, i mean actually having some evidence to post, not just the 30 seconds where he references this word, points to some example where a young guy was ransomed by pirates to his parents, and then moves on.

where are the word studies of contemporary sources? its so bad he doesn't even show hos the word is used elsewhere in the NT.

stop listening to such a fraud anon.

>>512892441 (OP)
Has he taken the lithium pill yet? Or Holy Water or sum.

>>512893566
pretty sure he's been taking all kinds of pills over the years.

Would be interested to know what a Greek has to say about Hillman's claims. I can't tell if he's a bullshit artist, but some of these people working across disciplines have had similar reveals over the past 50+ years just looking at old texts.

I don't know enough Greek to form an opinion. But as a boy reading Job, Judges and other parts of the Bible, like Mark 14:51-52 which Hillman specifically brings up, always was like reading something I'd more expect from some work that wasn't the Bible. Its not out of place but I could tell it was as a work deviating significantly from any conventional Christian theology or interpretation. The stuff about biblically accurate angels felt like retard fuel, like the people who can't read Lovecraft because they don't have any imagination and have to be hand-held. But that's exactly what I'm asking for I guess from someone who actually understands the ancient Greek language.

>>512892911
>the original bible was not greek
wrong.
The Greek Bible is more complex than Hebrew Bible because Hebrew only had 7000 words and Greek had millions

For example: Isaiah 34:13

Hebrew fake Bible:
"Thorns will overrun her citadels, nettles and brambles her strongholds. She will become a haunt for jackals, a home for owls."

Real Greek Bible:
And thorns shall grow in their cities, and in her fortresses: and it shall be a habitation of sirens, and a court of sparrows.

>>512892918
The kidnapping by pirates happened when Caesar was in his early twenties, but the account comes from later historians like Plutarch (Life of Caesar) and Suetonius (The Twelve Caesars). Caesar never wrote a memoir of his youth, so everything we know about that episode — including his casually promising to crucify his captors (and then actually doing it) — comes from these biographies.

If you want the fullest ancient version, Plutarch’s Life of Caesar is the best source.

source Chat GPT

>>512892441 (OP)
Christkikes attack him with lies because they all rape kids that is why they vote for the group of pedos that are covering up the Epstein files. Because like their republicans leaders they too rape kids.

>>512893392
>>512893638
see
>>512893947

Here leisthes means child traffiker. Caesar lived 70 years before jesus

>>512893947
so its even less useful for Hillmanites trying to make leistes say what they want it to than i though.

what other support for that word having to mean CHILD TRAFFICKER do you have?

if you look here you'll not find any

https://biblehub.com/greek/3027.htm

>Historical Background in First-Century Judea

Palestine under Rome was riddled with armed bands who preyed on travelers and estates, sometimes draping their brigandage in nationalist zeal. Josephus repeatedly calls such insurgents λῃσταί. The Roman authorities crucified captured bandits publicly, making the presence of λῃσταί at Golgotha historically fitting (Matthew 27:38).

>>512894093
>Here leisthes means child traffiker.
by your own post it clearly doesn't. how is someone in their 20s a child?

>>512893757
okay, even if thats true...to what end?
we already know hellenization occured throughout the middle east and even judea.
hell there were jews who LIVED in greece and spoke greek.
like today, jews are evil assholes that still corrupt and manupulate idea/cultures/people.

Why does this matter?
I'm not a jew
and even if the original bible was written it greek.
its apostles are all jews, and jesus was trying to reform.....JEWS.
if hes a rapist or not doesn't really concern me.

australian aboriginals rape their own children. who gives a flying fuck

Hillman is such a boss. love his stuff. I even went and bought the book he recommended and have been learning greek!

>>512894166
>Bible hub
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
oh thats a real resource you have there

>>512894356
What book anon? Does it use the scriptorium technique or what? I want to learn so many languages but always make some bullshit excuse.

>>512894430
did you even look? is strongs no good now for Hillmanit cultists?

feel free to post your own resources and please, lets finally have the detailed word study to support your claims. been waiting for about 8 months now.

>>512894166
>>512894236
Table: λῃστής in Kidnapping / Piracy Contexts

Source & Passage Greek Term Context Notes

Thucydides, Histories 1.5–1.8 λῃσταί Early Greek leaders and Mycenaeans engaging in piracy, seizing goods and people. Explicitly sea-raiding and abduction.

Herodotus, Histories 1.4, 1.5 λῃστής Phoenicians & Greeks abducting women (Io, Europa myths). Mythic precedent for people-trafficking as piracy.

Polybius, Histories 4.3, 4.18, 4.63 λῃστής Illyrian sea-raiders taking captives and plunder. Direct match to Caesar case.

Diodorus Siculus, Library of History 16.5, 20.81 λῃσταί Coastal raids and mass abductions. Sea-based people raiding.

Plutarch, Life of Pompey 24–28 λῃσταί Cilician pirates raiding and kidnapping; Pompey’s anti-piracy campaign. Same group that took Caesar.

Plutarch, Life of Caesar 1–2 λῃσταί Caesar kidnapped by Cilician pirates, held for ransom. Most famous use.

Strabo, Geography 14.5.2 λῃσταί Cilician pirates’ operations in the Mediterranean, including human capture. Geographic detail on pirate bases.

Xenophon, Hellenica 2.1.7; Anabasis 7.8.8 λῃσταί Armed raiders plundering villages, sometimes seizing people. Small-scale but violent.

Appian, Mithridatic Wars 92 λῃσταί Pirates in Aegean and Mediterranean; kidnapping of Romans. Later Hellenistic piracy.

>>512894302
>Why does this matter?
Because the original greek version contains words with special meaning that have been completely removed or mistranslated in the hebrew version.
And because our modern english bibles are translations of the hebrew version that means that the actual story of the bible is changed a lot from the original.

>>512894573
No, its literally not. Try Perseus tuft.
The greek calls abraham a pirate which later becomes lestes and means someone who trades in human slaves

>>512894764
OK, I'll play along but first
You have to just admit it...
you're an 'orthobro' trying to cope with the fact whether or not a jew that knew greek wrote the bible about jews for jews on jewish prophecy.
or if it was a greek (gentile) who wrote a book about jews for jews on jewish prophecy.

whats more likely, chud?

>>512894764
also, fun fact... which I'm sure you'll love.
turns at the philistines were a greek people

>>512895118
>turns at
*turns out
auto correct

>>512892441 (OP)
Is that hebrew tattooed to the side of his head

>>512892441 (OP)
No because he's bad at interpreting ancient texts and languages, and numerous actual experts have basically said his self-interpretation of them is egregiously incorrect.

>>512894640
>Caesar kidnapped by Cilician pirates, held for ransom. Most famous use.
and nothing to do with children. i know about all this anon. but it doesn't have anything to say about child trafficking, and it doesn't always mean that people were being kidnapped.

why can you guys even look in the NT to see how the word it used in the contemporary context? Look how its used there about the Good Samaritan parable. the leistes were highway bandits who nearly killed a guy for his stuff.
no kidnapping or anyone involved.

>>512895021
>>512895118
1. I do not identify as christian. any kind of christian.
2. It's important because it proves that Jesus & band were practicing occult mystery rituals from the greek world.
And Genesys was probably written somewhere around the Black Sea in 2000 BCE. Aryan stuff.

>>512895152
its greek, still doesn't justify a face tattoo

>>512895152
Linear B

>>512895152
greek

>>512894949
no, it doesn't always mean that at all. not even close. this is total Hillmanite lies because its what you want to see.

>>512895295
Genesis is plagium of a Babylonian creation myth.

Just as the menorah is a polytheistic Babylonian symbol.

>>512895295
but are you going to acknowledge ...
its more likely that it was written by a jew that knew greek wrote the bible about jews for jews on jewish prophecy
and NOT
a greek (gentile) who wrote a book about jews for jews on jewish prophecy.

>>512895152
he;s covered in greek tattoos but id say the thing on his right side is hebrew. if you can watch and listen through his deranged podcasts and not being creeped out and see he's nuts if not actually possessed then i dont know what to tell you.

>>512895263
>and nothing to do with children.
The children part is usually infered by Jesus calling his apostles ''fishers of men'' and the young prostitues recognising Peter as a prostitute too.
It is known that pirates on the greek seas were providing the slave markets with children too ussually on Delos.
And young girls were ussually the ''sparrows'' used in mystery school temples.

>why can you guys even look in the NT to see how the word it used in the contemporary context?
Caesar's life is contemporary with the Jesus story.

Romans did not crucify bandits for stealing. Romans used to cut hands for stealing.

>>512894949
>No, its literally not. Try Perseus tuft.
yeah i do. but for basic Bible usage of words strong is just fine. you should look at it sometimes and you'd have more of a clue what you're talking about.

>>512895765
that is not hebrew
he is tattooed in 3 languages: greek, etruscan and hieroglyphic egyptian

>>512895765
His right side is Linear B you dunce.

>>512895389
And yet Genesys is a very specific cult term that means that when souls get too heavy with moisture they incarnate on Earth.
But yeah the mysteries probably started with Inana and the Sumerians, 4500 years ago.

>>512892441 (OP)
Yes. It was great. Satan is the king of earth. Even bible confirms it. So you either worship the operating system (why?), the satan program (makes sense as it is closer to our scope of existancr), or sol (same reason as satan but probably different god). Music and light are waves are music of the universe. Math is not real, it's just a language to describe the observable. And, as amon stresses, language is the key. It really is beautiful. Jesus storing drugs in his ass then injecting them in his eyes is kind of out there tho.

>>512896047
Genesis is a cognate of Latin genius and generation.

It just means to generate.

>>512895295
>And Genesys was probably written somewhere around the Black Sea in 2000 BCE. Aryan stuff.
also to go onto this point. you do know Zoroastrianism (first monotheism) is what you're referring to. its an aryan/iranic concept to reform their polythestic religion

>>512895780
>The children part is usually "inferred"
why, you ask?
for this insane reason he replies
>Jesus calling his apostles ''fishers of men''
and also this insane reason that he could never hope to back up
> young prostitutes recognising Peter as a prostitute too

>>512896293
Zoroastrianism is not monotheistic retard.

>>512892441 (OP)
crack head

>>512896119
In Orphic and some mystery traditions, the soul’s descent into the body (or “birth”) is sometimes symbolized by watery or moist elements, but this is usually metaphorical or ritualistic.

>>512896362
yes it is. they worship ahura mazda as their supreme god. look it up.
its the oldest monotheistic religion still practiced today

>>512892659
>look, jesus is slave morality and not good.

anon dont take this wrong this is an honest question and if you answered honestly you would only be admitting to being in the same boat as 98 percent of people unironically

have you ever actually read the bible cover to cover? a lot of what you said is extremely based but what you have accepted about jesus is like accepting that hitler was a vegetarian pagan with one testicle

>>512892441 (OP)

Yes. WHY WAS JESUS ARRESTED IN A PARK AT 4AM WITH A NAKED BOY?

>>512896459
Somehow Mithra and Anahita escaped my notice.

Somehow Xerxes going to Delphi and treating Apollo as Mithra.
While Artemis was called Anahita.

You niggers need lead in your brains.

And Akhenaten did his nigger thing way before Zoroaster.

Let me dust off my old pill collection:

https://youtu.be/Vis9ETHBaTM

>>512896293
1. The first monotheism is Atenism made up by Pharaoh Akhenaten.
These are the grandparents of the later jews/hebrew/habiru in the Sinai peninsula
2. Zoroastrianism is related to the Median magians which are related to the Scythians which were practicing what Ammon is talking about.

>>512892824
he says why are you coming to me with armed soldiers as though i am some sort of BANDIT

sometimes human traffickers are reffered to as bandits would they not be?


therefore jesus was a child trafficker because he said he wasnt a criminal and criminals are sometimes pedos.


dont do meth

>>512895780
>The children part is usually infered by Jesus calling his apostles ''fishers of men'' and the young prostitues recognising Peter as a prostitute too.
lol. of course it must be made up because theres nothing actually real there at all.
>It is known that pirates on the greek seas were providing the slave markets with children too ussually on Delos.
possibly, sure. but that doesn't mean that every time the word is used, including a thousand years into the future when the NY was written, that the word always means every single part of the definition. Why can't you let the NT usage be primary? have you read luke 10? have you noticed that theres not the slightest contextual hint of slavery or kidnapping mentioned there, or where else the word is used?

thats why Hillman has to rely on ancient sources which even themselves dont support his claims about Jesus, only that sometimes pirates took slaves...which Jesus never did, obviously.

>>512895780
>Caesar's life is contemporary with the Jesus story.
the use of leistes in the NT is even more contemporary and written in koine.
>Romans did not crucify bandits for stealing.
leistes came to mean a general kind of violent bandit gang often associated with murder and armed insurrection. Barrabas was called such a thing..and a murderer. Theres zero contextual evidence that any kind of slave taking was involved (especially in Luke 10, which you keep ignoring).

>>512896541
they demonized the old gods. thats hold over from when they were polytheistic.
why are you being so obtuse?
>And Akhenaten did his nigger thing way before Zoroaster.
did you know persian had contact with egypt at that time period and influence?
its also the same time period.

>>512896598
Romans were not crucifing bandits.

Romans used to cut hands for stealing/banditry.

Crucifiction is reserved for the worst of the worst.
Slavers. Human traffikers.

>>512895862
>>512895902
i cant get a clear look at it thats all. but i do see its got some boxy symbols so sure.

>>512896538
wasnt. the guy was wearing a sheet and it was the guys arresting him that snatched the sheet off, making him naked.

WHY DID THOSE YOUNG GUYS STRIP THAT YOUNG GUY?

>>512896538
he wasnt the boy was wrapped in a sleeping garment having fallen asleep with the rest of jesus disciples while he was up late praying the garden prompting jesus to heart breakingly say to his disciples "could none of you stay awake with me and keep watch even for an hour"


the young man was sleeping perhaps in just a cloth and whatever he wore to bed was seized by the roman authorities and he left it in the roman authorities hands and fled naked rather than face the music with jesus. there is no contextual support whatsover for ammons retarded fucking theory its so stupid i feel dumb even responding to it maybe thats the point of this psyop in the first place.

>>512896827
>Romans were not crucifing bandits.

jesus wasnt a bandit which is literally the point of the scripture you are misrepresenting


>why are you coming with armed guards as though i were some bandit?

>>512896751
Did you know that the Persians were still in the steppe when Akhenaten ruled?

Did you know that the Zoroastrian magii practiced animal sacrifices to both Anahita and Mithra?

Dumb fucking circumcised americoon.

>>512896849
>Officer that young boy was not naked, he was wearing a sheet, see.

>unironic janitor druggy thinks everyone ever must’ve been a druggy too
>”expert” in language but can’t discern between nouns and adjectives
sage

>>512896591
>made up by Pharaoh Akhenaten
people don't just 'make things up' unless they're jews.
they were influenced by persian reforms of zoasterism. it was at the same time. there were persians who lived in egypt at that time aten did his 'reforms'
>>512896591
>2. Zoroastrianism is related to the Median magians which are related to the Scythians which were practicing what Ammon is talking about.
yes, which is why I brought them up.
in the end, abrahamism is a rip off of zoasterism

>>512894236
A lot of manchildren on here, be kind

>>512896940
the greek is explicitly any man under forty years old, they were all explicitly asleep and jesus was explicitly alone in the garden, the guard explicitly snatched the mans sleeping garment and he ran off without it. every part of this theory is a blatant objective lie and ammon is visibly a fucking twisted little mongrel

>>512896884
Ah yes I remember having slumber parties when I was a kid. We would all undress and sleep naked in the sleeping bags. Fun times.

>>512896849
Fucking Romans couldn't help themselves. They see one young looking boy and next thing you know the boy is naked and trying to escape with his virgin bunghole.

>>512896884
you can explain this to them as much as you like but its no use. they'll run off to some ancient uses of the word that described piracy, robbery, murder and capturing slaves and insist for 300 posts that it MUST mean Jesus was a child raping sex trafficker.

its actually insane.

>>512897040
the greek once again is any man under forty, the text explicitly says that all jesus desciples fell asleep and left him alone in the garden. it gets hot at night sometimes in israel

>>512896938
this is false.
>Indo-Iranian migrations from the Eurasian steppes began around 4000 BCE.
>The Indo-Aryans split from the Iranians around 1800-1600 BCE and began migrating towards South Asia.
why are you seething? what is your motive?

>>512896979
Nigger.

Akhenaten lived in 1400 BC. Before the Trojan War.

In 1400BC the Persians were still nomadic leucodermic people in the steppe.

Zoroaster lived in the same time as the Buddha.
7th century BC.

Go hide in your mole cave.

>>512897040
Are you really comparing 1990s with the 0 AD?

>>512897140
>Indo-Iranian migrations from the Eurasian steppes began around 4000 BCE.
>The Indo-Aryans split from the Iranians around 1800-1600 BCE and began migrating towards South Asia.
look I posted it again! malding

>>512897092
i know its like the truth cant enter into them, its like their father is the father of lies, its as though they are contrary to all men. ignore me im talking crazy

>>512897032
νεανίας (neanias) Young man, youth

νεανίσκος (neaniskos) Young man, youth (diminutive form, sometimes affectionate)

And no, back in the day people did not use to sleep naked in ''sleeping garnments'' in public

>>512897194
>Indo-Iranian migrations from the Eurasian steppes began around 4000 BCE.

4000BC Proto-Indo-European still hadnt broken down.

You are a sandnigger migrant you farsi circumcised dunecoon.

>>512897186
Yes. People were not sleeping naked in public in 0AD

>>512897140
>Zoroaster lived in the same time as the Buddha.
>7th century BC.
yes, he was a prophet. they do not 'worship' zoaster. as I said its ahura mazda.
you really are ignorant on this topic but highly opinionated

>>512897114
>it gets hot at night sometimes in israel
sus

>>512897280
>νεανίας (neanias)
i would be neanias in greek i am 36 years old. they were not at the same place at the same time, they are asleep he was up too late in the garden praying and he literally says "could NOT ONE OF YOU stay awake and keep watch with me even for an hour" just before the authorities show up, he was very very much alone its one of the most tragic parts of the new testament if there isnt too much nigger blood pumping through your kike heart to perceive the truth at least.

>>512897280
>And no, back in the day people did not use to sleep naked in ''sleeping garnments'

no one in all of history has slept naked in a sleeping garment because those are mutually exclusive you shit colored kike retard

>>512897280
>And no, back in the day people did not use to sleep naked in ''sleeping garments'' in public.

A statement from a fool is not a fact. Also what do you consider public property in 0 AD. KEK. Dude stop acting like "now" is comparable to "then" when it suits you.

>>512896827
>Crucifiction is reserved for the worst of the worst.
not even true which some reading on the subject instead of Hillman videos would show you. They used to crucify all kinds of crimes. Desertion in the army for one thing. Escaped slaves another. Even merchants have been crucified for cheating on deals, even when they were roman citizens, which was usually never done.
anything seen as challenging the authority of the state definitely could someone crucified.

>>512892441 (OP)
The thumbnails this dude chooses for each episode he puts out has been enough for me to not watch a single episode. He is part of the grifter circuit.

>>512897377
he was wearing a loose flowing garment to bed to keep cool, if he were naked with jesus the whole narrative you are drawing from where the guard seizes him by the clothes he was wearing and runs off becomes meaningless, you cope by saying its a medicated bandage that just covers the dick and that is what the guard happened to grab despite that also besides being fucking retarded makes the narrative once again meaningless because the point is it was preferable for that man do endure the shame of public nudity than to face the music with christ you will burn forever and ever as a matter of absolute certainty for peddling this blatant lie and i cannot wait for it

Dan McClellan Hebrew Greek scholar, says he has no respect at all for this guy, and that he is full of shit in what he says

>>512897442
>i would be neanias in greek i am 36 years old

Are you dumb nigger?
You would already be a gerontes.

Not a fucking neanus.

Nea - new
Nus - born

Neanus literally means newborn you retard.

>>512897636
>man do endure
to*

he is just a garbage attention whore, anything he says can be dismissed with extreme prejudice

>>512897442
ἀνήρ (anēr) The primary and most common word for “man” as an adult male

At 36 you are an aner
At 20 you are neanias
At 13 you are neaniskos (a little neanias)

And the apostles must have been hammered on some heavy drugs if none of them could stay the fuck up and guard their master.

Also in the Garden Jesus cries and says God take this cup away from me, the cup is the little boy that he has to castrate and drink the antitode from his penis.
Basically Ganymede (the CUP-bearer) and Zeus.

>>512897695
there is no explicit cut off but sometimes its rendered to under forty, its just what we in english call a young man


it does not mean child, and thats what matters

>>512897753
in english what is the cutoff for someone being a young man?

>>512897652
Dan McClellan is a fraud who does not know greek.

>>512897753
>And the apostles must have been hammered on some heavy drugs if none of them could stay the fuck up and guard their master.


read the book it says god allowed darkness to reign for a time during that night and so heavy it was that jesus himself wept, they simply fell asleep according to the explicit text of the narrative you are lying about

>>512897766
Nigger. At 20 you would be allowed in the army.
At 30 you would be in the national assembly.
At 50 you would be most likely dead.

>>512892441 (OP)
The Ammon die on this Hillman pill

>>512897753
Dude, I'll just use your logic. It's simple. I have no problem calling you a baby or a little boy. Does that mean you actually are? It's just the way langue works bro.

>>512897766
At 40 you would be considered a very old man by greek standards.

>>512897804
probably 18

>>512897855
random Romanian just claims shit about an actual scholar

are you Vee? or Borko?

>>512897882
>Nigger. At 20 you would be allowed in the army.

is somebody whos 20 too old to be a young man? what about thirty?

is a young man a child?


what color is poop?

>>512897922
>>>512897804(You)
>probably 18

blatantly false.

>>512897984
Neanus is a not a man yet you dumb cunt.

>dunce
>retard
>You niggers need lead in your brains.
>Dumb fucking circumcised americoon.
>Nigger.
>>Go hide in your mole cave.
>You are a sandnigger migrant you farsi circumcised dunecoon.
>Are you dumb nigger?
>you retard
>Nigger

people use ad hominems are usually correct, is that so (((IHM403v6)))?

oops forgot one!
>dumb cunt
a creative little potty mouth :^)

>>512898049
Dealing with you niggers is aggravating.

>>512897695
>>512897753
just look how its used in the NT if you like. the same word used for this guy in the Garden with the sheet is used for the young ruler who Jesus said to give all his riches away.

> must have been hammered on some heavy drugs if none of them could stay the fuck up and guard their master.
or it was the middle of the night and everyone was tired after a long hot day walking around, making and preparing supper etc etc. Of course you MUST see drugs because thats all Hillman every thinks about and context be damned,

>>512898039
>Neanus

according to every source it means simply "young man"


not child and its a relative term in the same way young man is in english the only thing for SURE is that a Neanus is not a child but a young man

>>512892578
>>512892552
>>512892636
>>512892659

Shills assembled quickly LOL

(((IHM403v6))) Then don't act like one/respond to them?
its the same reason I'm no long giving (you)s to yourself

>>512897922
>greek standards
Why do you keep switching between modern standards when you talk about slumber parties and then made up ancient greek standards when you're talking about age. It's weird.

>>512898186
damn, whos paying me. I know shills exist for hillman, hes makes money off his books/classes etc

>>512898123
post your nose you mongrel kike retard ill go first

>>512898155
>the same word used for this guy in the Garden with the sheet is used for the young ruler who Jesus said to give all his riches away.
Yes, yes exactly.
Because they are both young boys, teens, 13 to 15.
And the ''young ruler'' in that case is a boy from a wealty family that has a big inheritance. That Jesus wants him to give away.

>>512892441 (OP)
he's crazy, anon

>>512898186
because this is a thread, same picture, same text, that has been posted many many times, though less so recently. here and on /x/, it was constant for months and month. i happened to see it and recognized it immediately.

its also some of the most garbage stuff ive ever come across outside of flat earth threads.

>>512898391
>Because they are both young boys, teens, 13 to 15.


it means according to EVERY source young man. not boys, not children. quit lying

>>512898413
>its also some of the most garbage stuff ive ever come across outside of flat earth threads.

this even if you accepted the rediculous translations of individual words and slotted them in where they supposedly go it makes ZERO sense in context its literally the most baseless argument that gets shilled here and its only merit is that its perverse and therefore sensational

>>512898186
So this is your hero? Can you watch this clip and honestly tell me that you're buying what this guy is selling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwVTX6Qsi18&ab_channel=DannyJonesClips

>>512898443
acording to christian sources maybe

>>512898545
wessley huff is a controlled op as well jsyk but i liked this video when i saw it


he literally said in the first ten minutes of andrew shulz (sp?) podcast UNPROMPTED that jesus was a jewish rabbi killed by romans, and he presents himself as a bible scholar.
kikes want you corralled into any christianity but the truth that states the truth that they were never gods chosen but always mongrel imposters and that gods chosen people are the white race (And i mean no fucking shit honestly)

>>512898617
its according to literally every source on the greek besides one bald mongrel pervert

>>512898658
>wessley huff is a controlled op
Don't care and don't really believe that anyways. I've never seen an exorcism in real life until I watch that clip of the demon gnashing within that weird bald tattooed dude.

>>512898876
hey thats ok i get it i was a fan and i like that video i already told you but he was on andrew shulz podcast


imagine me on such a podcast, imagine me within fifty yards of a celebrity and a camera, there is a reason you cant

>>512892703
Amazing that he's the only person in nearly 2000 years to understand Greek.

>>512896522
>a lot of what you said is extremely based but what you have accepted about jesus is like accepting that hitler was a vegetarian pagan with one testicle
I'll give you a (you) because I did chuckle at the end. what conflation are we doing here. bad metaphor.
but no, I won't join your jewish book club, thanks for the offer though. Once I figured (((paul/saul))) is a self admitted pharisee who killed christians before converting (never having met jesus) wrote 13/27 (HALF) of the new testament and then pushed it into rome.
It was over before it started.

>>512892441 (OP)
Literal who?

>>512898970
>imagine me on such a podcast, imagine me within fifty yards of a celebrity and a camera, there is a reason you cant
We all get our moment to shine. It's God's will. Don't miss yours.

>>512892703
>>512899004
once again if even if you accept hammons definitions at face value just for the sake of argument and plugged that into the narrative, his theory still is literally nonsense it doesnt work at all with the context of the story and hes relying on the sensational perverseness of what hes putting forth and IGNORANCE as to what the bible actually says in these passages. all the arguing about these definitions completely ignores that the narrative places the young man and boy in seperate locations jesus being utterly and totally alone, it also has the dude clothed initially and stripped by the authorities not naked to start with, there isnt a shred of credibility to it even if you accept his definitions

>>512899077
>look him up on yidtube goy! thats how you know he's the real deal.
>listen to the groans of ecstasy as he flagellates himself
OH GOD YES!
>*wack wack wack wack*
MORE DADDY DON'T STOP!

>>512898391
>teens, 13 to 15.
so you think a young guy at that age is called a young ruler and already has 'great possessions'? come on anon. its someone in their late teens at least, probably in his 20s if he's walking around by himself like that.

>>512898514
im sure thats what its all about

>>512892824
why is the same word for “little kid” used for a rich man questioning Jesus that states his youth is over?

>>512899070
>I'll give you a (you) because I did chuckle at the end. what conflation are we doing here. bad metaphor.
>but no, I won't join your jewish book club


what if just for the sake of argument, the book itself said the original jews where racially white, commanded them not to racemix warned them what would happen if they did, then it records them racemixing and other vectors of racial pollution explicitly, the prophets explicitly lamenting this race mixing and the mongrels it created, god himself coming back as a white man in the flesh and telling the mongrel imposters they were mongrels to their faces, and describing where they originate what motivates them, calling them the enemy of mankind, imposters again explicitly over and over and those mongrels fucking HATE that book?


what then? what race are americans? what race are the french? what race WERE the israelites? its the same, demographic replacement caused by kikes and white flight to rome

>>512899070
>Once I figured (((paul/saul))) is a self admitted pharisee who killed christians before converting (never having met jesus) wrote 13/27 (HALF) of the new testament and then pushed it into rome.
>It was over before it started.
you guys always say this as though this is some hidden truth and not explicitly layed out by the bible in pauls introduction. the point of pauls story is gods grace, even a mongrel pharisee if they would just repent of their niggerish devlish murdering ways genuinely and do whats right might be accepted. race matters but behavior ultimately is the final arbiter of a mans righteousness and even you think so whether you know it or not, you and i both would prefer white men in our ranks over black and brown but what about a white man you know to have committed child molestation? fuck him right, and what about the rare one in one thousand niggers who dedicate their lives to feeding the poor and the hungry, stuck to their own kind, putting clothing on peoples backs could you condemn him to death? race is real and very important but its the fruits that we judge a person by ultimately the bible is just TRUE

>>512899354
Matthew 19:20
>The young man (neaniskos) saith unto him, All these things have I KEPT FROM MY YOUTH UP: what lack I yet?
The same word, neaniskos, is used in the Mark 14:51 verse you claim is about a little kid.
So a little kid is talking about his wealth to Jesus, asking Him deeply spiritual questions, and saying his youth is over?
Hillman is a retarded Satanist and so are you OP.

>>512899382
>the original jews where racially white
I literally would not give a flying fuck.
the philestines were white...you know who else was ramses the great was r1b european and older than 'jews'. hell I think all of the middle east at some point was.
If I want a lesson about race mixing I can look at modern day brazil or ancient greece/rome.
there were plenty of people speaking out against it and it is more closer genetically to me than 'jews' even if they 'were' white.
>>512899524
I'm not debating theology.
race>beliefs.
I do not care what you believe as long as it empowers you and is righteous (a pre-abrahamic mindset)

What ever happened to Mark Passio? That's the only nigga that I payed attention to

>>512899672
>.you know who else was ramses the great was r1b european and older than 'jews

i know


i also know this is a hard pill to swallow that they were ever gods chosen people is the most important and oldest kike lie that there is they have had 2000 years to lie about it its a lot. i would not do what i do here if it were not literally the most important thing ive ever done in my life nothing else comes close, and if you just ENTERTAIN the idea, meaning hold it true in your mind despite not believing it temporarily and see if the world makes sense, ask yourself how much a lie like this would matter not just to kikes but every last one of us, just consider it on your own for like five minutes not about the merits of whether it be true or not but IF it were true how much does it matter

>>512892441 (OP)
Please kys.
Please!

>>512899672
gods chosen people ARE white and the bible is true, you should consider this its more important than you think

>>512892441 (OP)
based and ammonpilled

>>512900015
hes a bald visibly jewish pervert and im pretty sure so are you

>>512899908
look man, then why don't you consider egypt your holy land, its actually closer to europe than israel geographically. actually seems really cool society that fell to racemixing.
>>512899951
>we da real jews
look, I think every race is 'chosen' by god in their own religion. I don't need the bible to tell me this. I know this because of our actions.
stop placing such an emphasis on 'beliefs' and more on 'actions' and 'blood'.
my holy land is redwoods. why is it? i grew up realtively close to it and visit frequently. to I LARPagan? no, not needed. I pick up trash as a steward. it is a 'sacred grove'.
there you like the theological rhetoric?

>>512899164
>>imagine me on such a podcast, imagine me within fifty yards of a celebrity and a camera, there is a reason you cant
>We all get our moment to shine. It's God's will. Don't miss yours.
ive had debates here that im mathematically certain had more viewership more eyes on at the time than cnn at the same time, wild to think about sometimes, but they would never let me near mainstream media because im telling the whole truth. this realm that the likes of nick fuentes and mary tyler moore inhabit is a distant land a far off shore that everyone is nostalgic and homesick for, that never existed. me and that land cannot coexist

>>512898391
Some stuff you might want to look into
In Plato's "Phaedrus," Socrates uses the term "neaniskos" to refer to a young man who has reached the age of adolescence but is not yet considered an adult.

In Homer's epic poem "The Iliad," the word "neaniskos" is used to describe young warriors who are in the prime of their youth and strength.

In Aristophanes' comedy play "Lysistrata," the character Myrrhine uses the term "neaniskos" to tease her husband about his youthful appearance.

In Xenophon's "Anabasis," the word "neaniskos" is used to describe a group of young soldiers who are part of the Greek army.

>>512900270
>look man, then why don't you consider egypt your holy land

i dont consider any land holy its the blood of his people that is holy. >>512900270
>>we da real jews
>look, I think every race is 'chosen' by god in their own religion. I don't need the bible to tell me this.


but if you look around the world who gods chosen people is, becomes blatantly obvious and they worship jesus christ

>>512900270
>my holy land is redwoods. why is it? i grew up realtively close to it and visit frequently. to I LARPagan? no, not needed. I pick up trash as a steward. it is a 'sacred grove'.
>there you like the theological rhetoric?
you do what is right because you are without knowing it, of gods flock he says


"the people on whos HEART my law is written"

even under false doctrine the romans showed right action and a love for justice. on whos HEART my law is written

>>512895359
>No
>It doesnt
>Always
So you're admitting it does at times mean that

>>512892441 (OP)
Hillman is a glownigger, by his own admission he was selected for a 'gifted youth' program and most his classmates went on to join CIA and the military. Also, his hero in the field disavowed his translation. Ignoring the fact that there's people in the world who still read and speak koine fluently - Greek Orthodox Church I'm looking at you - you can just reason it yourself. Scripture rails against Hillman's translation. You know he autistically went through the entire New Testament and YET still couldn't find any verses to support his translation, so on the balance of probabilities his translation is wrong.

>>512901388
in context if it says so, yeah. it was a fairly wide term and never a good thing to be called. like being called a pirate or a bandit now. yes, pirates sometimes captured slaves to row their boats or for sale to others. i know. the number of times its used to talk about them capturing children for the sex trade is minimal....but of course, the absolute minority use is the one that schizo and liars just can't help but fixate on.

>>512901388
I don't think you realize that your are undermining the bald dude's over all theory. Hillman ignores all other uses of the words in dispute instead favoring cherry picked examples to bolster his claims.

>Ammon Hillman
What hill are you on man?

>>512901686
Yeah the context is jesus caught in a park at 4am with naked boys

>>512902299
non glownigger sauce, i'll wait.

>>512892441 (OP)
>Have you taken the Ammon Hillman pill yet?
I thought his ideas were interesting until I looked into them. Only took an hour or so to find he's full of shit. Like how he claims the old testament is actually no older than 300BC, and was originally written in koine greek. We have torah fragments from 700BC. He probably just doesn't know or something.

>>512902420
Mark 14:51

>>512902543
What Torah fragments. Post link

>>512902299
lol. repeating the same silly lie will never make it true. no one was naked until the guys came and arrested Jesus. You know that if you have cloth around your body you're not naked right? Like when a dead body is completely wrapped up for burial - its not naked but wearing a sheet.

It wasn't Jesus who tried to get hold of that younger guy and take his clothes off. it was the jews who wanted to kill Jesus who did that.

>>512902120
What the hill are you going on about man.

>>512902299
KEK. Gets smashed on every point. Just ignores it and defaults to the, "Jesus is actually a secret pedo angle, if you misread this verse in the Bible that I don't actually believe is true in the first place." You guys are all the same.

>>512896070
Jesus storing drugs in his ass and then injecting them in his eyes is quite fanciful. Not Mushroom Cross fanciful but still.

Incredible this man has an audience. Very sad. It's hard to love your neighbor as yourself when your neighbor is an idiot.

>>512902618
Ketef Hinnom Silver Scrolls
https://armstronginstitute.org/45-ketef-hinnom-scrolls

>>512902543
It's not just that as he's loads of bat shit crazy theories. He started off reading medical texts and sees drugs in everything. His theory is Christianity was a cult of hedonistic drug dealers / users but fails to offer an explanation on how or why they ended up goodie, goodie, two shoes do gooders. The chap isn't nuts, he's a glownigger.
>They asserted, however, that the sum and substance of their fault or error had been that they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god, and to bind themselves by oath, not to some crime, but not to commit fraud, theft, or adultery, not falsify their trust, nor to refuse to return a trust when called upon to do so. When this was over, it was their custom to depart and to assemble again to partake of food--but ordinary and innocent food. Even this, they affirmed, they had ceased to do after my edict by which, in accordance with your instructions, I had forbidden political associations. Accordingly, I judged it all the more necessary to find out what the truth was by torturing two female slaves who were called deaconesses. But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition.
https://faculty.georgetown.edu/jod/texts/pliny.html
>>512902582
And what about it? Offering me a bogey glownigger translation doesn't prove anything. AGAIN, non- glownigger sauce for this particular translation?

>>512902963
kikes arent your "neighbor" but the enemies of god and the descendants of satan, they arent your "brother" either

>e-celeb bullshit
Buy an ad.

>>512902998
It's almost like he thought you would make a claim you couldn't back up. You and him are not made of the same stuff. I was going to post that link but you beat me too it.

>>512892441 (OP)
He's right about a lot but he's also a megalomaniac, dopehead, and sex pest.

>>512903395
>He's right about a lot
What is he right about? I'm just curious. Are you just counting the fact that he can read and write?

>>512902998
lmao a sentence is not evidence of the existence of 5 books. Lying jew worshippers, what a shock

>>512903279
If we can meme this Hillman fellow into eceleb status we will really be up to something. The way he squeezes out words is fascinating.

>>512903726
>some guy writing random sentences 400 years before the exact sentence is used in a well known text
This is what you're going with?

>>512903793
>. The way he squeezes out words is fascinating.
His 'students' are mostly all blue haired wine aunt feminists. Something you want to tell us, anon?

>>512903527
he's right that the word christ had been used for nearly a millennium in the ancient greek lexicon before the bible was ever written and it was a drug term. He's also right about the fact that Jesus was arrested in a public park with a naked little boy in the middle of the night.

>>512903815
Bro is denying the literal usage of the word lestes and then turns around and wants me to believe the existence of a phoenician hallmark card proves the Torah was written by an imaginary jew who talked to a burning bush

>>512903243
What are you talking about? I'm bemoaning the average intelligence of man.

You're supposed to love evil kikes, too, though. Not allow yourself to be taken advantage of, or anything, but to love them.

>>512903726
It's like we are talking to a child and yet he pretends to be historian. That is evidence that the torah existed along ago. We are not ever going to have full documents from that long ago. That evidence is as golden as it gets. What evidence would you like to see, and then we will make sure we apply that exact same standard to anything you present.

>>512904016
Weird how yahweh commands baby murder then, not exactly loving

>>512903951
>He's also right about the fact that Jesus was arrested in a public park with a naked little boy in the middle of the night.
Then why can't he find anyone in the grossly antagonistic to Christianity academic world to support his translation? Answer the question, anon, the audience must know.

>>512904082
It's literally not, its in Phoenician and is not even a completely sentence, i can just as easily infer this means the torah is simply ripped off from pre existing sources

>>512892441 (OP)
he's a retarded fraud. his greek is dogshit, too. and he makes up myths with absolutely no sources, e.g, medusai that farm men.

>>512904016
>You're supposed to love evil kikes, too

nope, you cannot love wolves and lions and also claim to love your sheep.


there is a clear distinction made in the bible between the enemies of god and your own enemies


see the end of psalm 139


see luke 19:27


see how davids slaying of literally thousands of philistines is handled versus the solitary murder of his general uriah the hittite

>>512903971
Ah, I see it's strawman time. Anyway, I was only commenting on the fact that we have very strong evidence torah was written well before 300AD, so his claim is wrong. I said nothing about imaginary jews and burning bushes. Are you still in highschool?

>>512904214
>Jews and their god being hypocritical liars and murderers
Really a big surprise

>>512892441 (OP)
does he talk about the jews? is he afraid of being anti semitic?

>>512904269
No, your phoenician incomplete sentence is not good evidence that the torah was written before 300ad

>>512904343
Got it. People were just writing torah sentences 400 years before it was conceived. Amazing. That's magic jew level of faith. Congrats.

>>512903971
No. The purpose to show you that the torah existed when anon claimed it did. Stop with the insane cope, just listen kiddo.

>>512904096
> not exactly loving
Says who? By which standards to you judge those actions as not exactly loving? Please tell me your answer is going to be, your own standards.

>>512904284
its not hypocritical at all, there is a distinction made between the descendants of the devil who will NEVER be won to repentance through selfless love and sacrifice and your personal enemies such as the romans who literally killed their racial brethren while under false doctrine but were eventually won to repentance.
if i sad love your brother as yourself but if you see any rattlesnakes cut their heads off would you claim i was a hypocrite? they would striek at my childrens heels while they played and kill them because it is their nature i cannot claim to love my children and also rattlesnakes there is no hypocrisy

>>512903951
>the word christ had been used for nearly a millennium in the ancient greek lexicon before the bible was ever written and it was a drug term
sure?
>He's also right about the fact that Jesus was arrested in a public park with a naked little boy in the middle of the night.
nope. he's absolutely wrong about that.
you can see that from this thread. not a little boy. the guy wasn't naked until some jews tried to arrest him along with Jesus.

>>512903971
>the literal usage of the word lestes
pirate...bandit when on land (like in Luke 10 - was there any slavery involved with those leistoi?). doesn't mean that every use of the word means theres slavery involved. or sex trafficking, as Hillmanites loves to dream about.

>>512904214
Eh, I'd like that to be true, but my reading has not led me to that conclusion.

Vengeance is for the Lord, and we are to love all men. I understand all the angry young men who call Christianity a slave religion, but I've put my faith in Christ and try to be humble.

>>512904537
>if i sad
said*

>>512904407
>Jews steal from people
Whoa, unbelievable, i thought jews were moral paragons. Just like how Einstein took credit for shit he didn't do, just like the laws of moses are ripoffs of the 42 laws of ma'at and codes of Hammurabi and the dozens of other law codes that predate it

>>512904407
lol. all those fragments of NT books on papyri must also have nothing to say about the age of NT books.

>>512904108
>Christian academic world
kek thats called an oxymoron, the vast majority of them are all incredibly cucked mormons. You can look up the word yourself in lexical dictionaries yourself and see all the texts it was used in and see all the dates and contexts it was used in before the bible. Whats your cope for Mark 14:51-52? it's even problematic sounding in the KJV. Whats your cope for Cyril of Jerusalems Catechetical Lecture 20 about the initiation rites of young choir boys in the 4th century? j-just answer the question anon.

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/310120.htm

>>512904496
You don't have objective standards, your god is NOT REAL, as well as arbitrary. You have subjective morals you ATTEMPT to justify with an imaginary space jew.
Oh and he didn't do anything but make a leap thats unsupported. Meanwhile theres no contemporary writings about torah, circumcision or kosher law until 250bc

>>512904590
So now the theory is that people were writing what torah says 400 years before torah was created, but it's that jews stole what they were writing and only then it was really when the torah was created. OK, if that's the theory now. Hopefully you state it this way from here on out instead of claiming torah is no older than 300AD. Sounds like a semantic deception to just say that without including the other part.

>>512892441 (OP)
>watch this 2 hour podcast to know what I'm talking about
no thanks

>>512904569
>Eh, I'd like that to be true, but my reading has not led me to that conclusion.

check out the 2 seeds of genesis by charles lee mange the pdf is free online and it is short you could read it in half an hour

check out the passages i referred you to earlier its literally just the truth i read the bible everyday i could not do that if what i believed wasnt true reading the bible showing what i believe to be false would cause so much cognitive dissonance i would change my mind or have nervous breakdown

>>512904759
Yeah the torah is a fabrication from around 300bc using previous sources, lol whats so difficult for you to understand

what was jesus doing a 4 am in the morning with a kid?
why is this bizarre passage part of ALL the bibles just before jesus gets imprisoned?
the fact christians cant answer this without seething or doing divide and conquer,emotional warfare or gaslighting is proof that ammon maybe is kinda right

>>512904858
>torah wasn't created until 300BC
>and that's when jews just rubber stamped the word "torah" on stuff that already existed
kek

>>512904556
you sure about that bro? go ahead. translate the text.

>>512904914
its been answered many times just in this one thread, as it is in every one of these hillmanite threads.

>>512904697
>Christian academic world
>can't into reading comprehension
BLIMEY!
And here you are talking about ancient languages when you're struggling with English
>https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/310120.htm
picrel
Really struggling with your English comprehension, anon. I'm not sure you should be be lecturing anyone on language.

>>512904749
I asked you a question, by which standards do you apply to deem the killing babies is wrong? Should be easy enough to answer which out sperging out about objective standards.

>Meanwhile theres no contemporary writings about torah, circumcision or kosher law until 250bc
There are no complete writing. Fragments exist that confirm the texts in the torah. What they found matched and there is no reason to expect a full document from that time period.

>>512892441 (OP)
Why is there an endless supply of weird divorced guys who go on podcasts?

>>512905027
look up my other posts itt anon. im not repeating it all again because you cant be bothered to read whats already been said.
>neaniskos
teens into 20s at least
>sindon
cloth, sheet.
>leistes
pirate, bandit on land. luke 10. same word for the highway bandits

not naked until the arrest starts. only when the guy runs away and the jews keep hold of his sheet.

>>512904956
Yeah jews took from sources and created their own backstory, literally what they do everywhere

>>512905298
anyone who thinks modern visibly mongrelized kikes were the pure race who wrote the old testament doesnt know the first thing about the old testament or kikes

>>512905298
Because usually when people talk about the creation of a text, they're talking about the content. Not the title. But I understand you're being disingenuous because you got destroyed by facts and are too immature to acknowledge it.

>>512904774
I guess reading the Dionysiaca is out of the question then

>>512904810
He's a CoC guy? I'm not reading that.

lol I'm in the CoC, too. I still think we're supposed to love all men, and leave vengeance for the Lord.

>>512905401
They fabricsted it all, not just the title. The Torah isnt an ancient text from moses, its just a jewish psyop, and you fell for it

I've been following Hillman for over 2 years now, I've watched everything on his channel and I'm a part of his Ammon U Intensive Greek Course

All you faggots got are ad hominems

Wanna prove him wrong? Learn the Greek.

Oh that's right, everyone whose attempted to get in the arena with him, has been completely dunked on and all the monists and biblical scholar have been running....

The truth is None of you faggots can ACTUALLY read Ancient Greek, But I Can and can verify his claims personally, with a small army of people he's personally trained as well.

This is the End of Monism.

>>512905737
>blue haired feminist 'student' chimes in
Read the thread, foid, everything is answered.

>>512905638
>and you fell for it
I'm not into abrahamism, retard.

>>512905570
Actually I just looked into it and this is literal gnostic nonsense. This isn't Christian at all.. it's fringe gnostic heresy lol.. the church put this matter to rest by the second century

>>512905570
coc? culture of critique? im not familiar with that acronym
anon have you read the bible cover to cover? if you had youd know that one of the most OFT repeated narratives is of bad kings who lacked zeal and would not kill the mongrels in their land practicing infant sacrifice and the ones who had the zeal to do it were counted as righteous for it, you would also know that jesus commands in luke 19:27 that we bring those enemies of god who would not that christ be king over them before him and slay them
consider this, why do we have a justice department? why do we have a punitive legal system that locks criminals in cages under threat of death? its funny ive never seen anyone say "we should not do war against the enemies of mankind it would not be christian" bat a single eyelid at our justice department shouldnt we be freeing these men? let he who is without sin cast the first stone after all

as a christian i am meant to give the kikes grace for doing the will of satan on earth to hold a live and let live attititude towards them, ignore the daily suicides of my brothers in christ who are meek and could not bear the despair the synagogue of satan has caused them, but if i in righteous anger go against these wolves in defence of my sheep suddenly all grace is lost again at least for me in that instance. do you understand?

>>512905737
lol

He is one extreme of the truth. But the real truth is a happy medium. He is a TDS sufferer and has not been able to let go of his hate. I don't buy into Christianity any more than he does. But he's too far gone to be taken seriously.

Yes I've watched probably 30 of his videos including the greek lessons. He takes things only in the lense he wants to see them in. Shame

>>512905377
Bro thats just golem cope. Theyre semites and have nothing to do with my people. If you want to go worship jews have at it, but i will continue to roast you

>>512905928
>Bro thats just golem cope

thats just an assertion you are making and im confident i know more than you

>>512905832
Yet here you are defending it

>>512905250
neanias means young man and iskos implies a little bit of something like ito in spanish. do the math. also it says he had a sindon on his gymnos and on his kratou. rather strange position for his clothes to be before the romans ripped him right out of his clothes like you suggest. So in your words, a very young man (not named as one of his regulars) was following jesus with a linen cloth around his naked parts and covering his head in the middle of the night during the arrest and then ran away completely naked? and that seems like a normal thing that would happen to a good person?

>>512905908
The vid where his hero in the field corrects him from the audience is cringe. There's another vid where he joins the stream to run it by him again and your man is just looking at him like he's a total clown

>>512905908
TDS, You mean Trump being a Scottish Rite FreeMason Kike of a Tyrant?

>>512892441 (OP)
I LOVE CIA SPONSORED GOYCASTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HOPE HE SELLS ME SUPPLEMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>512905969
No, its simple, there were Whites with their own religions long before Semites were even forming cities. I have no reason to believe jews and thor fairy tales.

>>512906167
>No, its simple

no it isnt its 2000 year old folk history that the most notorious liars of all time have a vested interest in lying about its far from simple

>>512905850
Church of Christ.. I assumed he was a COCer due to his pejorative use of the word denominational, but apparently he's part of the Christian Identity movement, whatever the hell that is.

But no, I don't buy into the two bloodline gnostic nonsense.

This is just reading scripture in a way that allows us to act on our natural impulses and feelings and tell ourselves that we're following Christ's will.

We are commanded to love one another. Period. If you could boil Christianity down to its most essential parts they would be understanding the Holiness of Christ, and the radical idea of loving your fellow man as you would yourself. Loving your enemies and feeling genuine sadness that they're living outside of Christ.

>>512905737
his course is pure dogshit. he doesn't teach or recommend learning declensions. his instruction of acute, grave and circumflex pronunciation is wrong. he's a fucking moron.

>>512905737
>can verify his claims personally,
take it away then. i wish one of your hillman groupies would because he never does. wheres your scholarly paper defending the several bizarre definitions of sindon, leistes and neaniskos for a start?


>>512906061
>had a sindon on his gymnos and on his kratou.
it just says around his nakedness. your reading part of the word talking about how they grabbed him when you mention 'kratou'
you pervs want them to mean 'a drug soaked penis wrap', a 'child trafficker (for sex)/pederast' and 'young boy'.
and yes, ive read both of his terrible books. never read so many claims without the slightest attempt to support them, especially not from someone who gets all his followers to brag about how educated and scholarly he is.

>weak willed sheepy McMegaChurch "christian"
>punching himself in the head and crying after masturbating
>GRAHHH ME WANT SEXX NOW!
>bang some bar whore
>I... AM... REBORN IN EUPHORIA! I AM NOW WEAK WILLED SHEEPY MCREDDIT SUPER ATHEIST
>OH HELL YEAAAHH TOOL ROCKS, I AM JAMMING TO HARD ROCK METAL! YOU MAD GOD??? FFUUUCCKK YOOOUU GOD!!!
>Punches self in the head after briefly considering he might be wrong

>>512906240
>But no, I don't buy into the two bloodline gnostic nonsense.

its not gnostic and if you search my name "jacob anthony mcqueen" in the archives you will find i am the single most outspoken anon against gnosticism by far on the chans.


the two seeds of genesis can be read in a half hour, its free, it will unironically change your life and convince you god is real if you just finish it and check for yourself the bible says what hes showing you it says, i discovered that book around a year ago so i was already arguing for christian identity publicly here but its a great resource for compiling many (but far from all) of the relevant bible verses on this topic in one place

i've listened to plenty of his shows, both his own and with him as a guest on someone else's. (danny jones, mostly. gnostic informant, too.)
here's the thing:
guy knows his stuff. won't deny it. he could be the world's foremost expert on ancient greek for all i know. all i have is his word and what other people say.
but he's fried. completely fucking fried. booze. drugs. all the normal stuff that's around everywhere, and shit we never heard of that he cooked up out of some 3000yr old book. that's why he acts the way he does.
it's not just a persona or a character he plays. that's him. he can be somewhat normal, but he has to try, and you can tell he has to try.
go out to any roofing or carpentry crew. look for one of the older ones. grizzled. usually skinny as fuck. plenty of grey, but he's only 45 or 50. probably visibly missing one or more teeth. and just talk to the guy for 15 minutes.
that guy's fried, too, but he's probably nowhere near as smart as ammon is. maybe as far as carpentry or roofing goes. probably has some sportsball knowledge. can fix a v8. tune a carb. set your ignition timing by ear. but that's about it.
smart people can be burnouts, too. i know plenty of them. ammon's cooked.

>>512906283
I'd like to see a Venn diagram of how many people who think this guy is clever next to people who think Terrence Howard is a genius. Pretty sure it's just one circle, because this is some serious "ooo but low-key he do be makin sum sense doe no cap" retard shit.

>>512892441 (OP)
i dont understand this gotcha. even if ammon is right about the source material, that that just means the religions that white people have created over thousands of year is not related to the original greek bible. ammon says that the real translation says jesus was arrested in an olive grove doing thing with a minor, but that obviously isnt the Jesus of the abstract Christianity that we know today.

>>512906240
>We are commanded to love one another. Period. If you could boil Christianity down to its most essential parts they would be understanding the Holiness of Christ, and the radical idea of loving your fellow man as you would yourself.
they are counterfeit men from satan, edom was a counterfeit man, cain was a counterfeit man, they did not inherit the spirit of god through the line of adam they do the will of their father which is murder and deceit they are alien inside in a way you literally cannot appreciate until you actually read and understand the bible they are not your or my brothers


"who is my brethren? who is my brother? and then he gestured to the multitude, "whosoever doeth the will of my father in heaven these are my mother and brethren"

>>512905737
It comes down to earnest disagreement the majority of the time. Ruck, for example, adamantly denies that "Lestes" means "guy who traffics kids". Hell, he's not the only peer who disagrees with David about this conjecture.
But what we often forget, in David's explanation of Gethsemene, that Jesus was using the Frenzy and this was an initiation (something David would fully comprehend if he were to read non-primary sources). In other words, "Jesus" was tripping his balls off. For all we know, he started arguing with himself about whether or not what he was doing was weird or bad (see Plato and how/why he was executed - which I can also explain in greater detail than most), muttered to himself, "I'm not going to do anything weirdly sexual to this kid, so I'm not a monster and I'm doing something virtuous".
>read the Greek
See the problem is so few can actually read it at his level because he's spent all this time with Galen, exposed to use cases of Ancient Greek that we have no metaphors for, no way to translate. We're all using more recent Greek, Greek that isn't medical literature (which also means Mystical literature for the uninitiated) and a consensus-atrophied Greek.
>End of Monism
Boy are you in for a bitter surprise. Aren't you an Occultist, anon? Why else would you be that into David's work?

>>512906061
>was following jesus with a linen cloth around his naked parts and covering his head in the middle
it just says the cloth was around his body. it doesn't say head. and yes, the usual scenario is that this young guy happened to see Jesus and the other guys walking across to the Garden after the supper was over. He doesnt want to lose them so he grabs a sheet from his bed (maybe it was his night gown/sheet) and followers after. Then, because the jews wanted to shut Jesus down, they come and try to arrest the whole lot of them. Everyone gets away though they almost manage to grab this guy in the sheet. he flees naked, having had to slip out of the sheet because it was grabbed.

not complicated really. far less so that inventing all kinds of 'between' the lines stuff about sex and drug rituals, which have zero place in the NT at all.

>>512906240
>Church of Christ.. I assumed he was a COCer due to his pejorative use of the word denominational, but apparently he's part of the Christian Identity movement, whatever the hell that is.
You, my friend, are desperately confused. Maybe just sit this one out.

>>512906386
It's definitely gnostic, it relies on a secret, "read between the lines", lost knowledge nonsense. None of the apostles or early fathers held that interpretation of Genesis, dude. Just a guy who wants to be able to fight evil on Earth outside of the way God has prescribed.

>>512906316
you're telling me im reading greek wrong while your only exposure to greek is bible scholar debunker cope. Otherwise you would know gymnos can be either refer to a naked body or private parts. Also i never brought up lestes nor was it in the segment i asked you to translate. I tend to agree with you on that one Hillman's argument is not that strong for lestes.

>>512906591
>It's definitely gnostic, it relies on a secret, "read between the lines"

its definitely not and once again its not even debatable or close i have been the most outspoken anon against gnosticism by far and the archives will reflect that


it is the opposite of the dozens of bible verses i would use to show you this is true, the counter argument is always "its spritiual you gotta read between the lines its not saying what its saying"
the bible says david was ruddy
his son solomon was white and ruddy
the israelites of jerusalem before taken into exhile were whiter than milk with more rudiness in body than rubies and after exile came back unrecognizable in the streets with visages blacker than coal

it says what it says kikes lie about what it says

>>512906585
What? That's a reasonable conclusion to make, and I corrected myself when I read more about the gentleman..

This is heretical nonsense. You just like it because it's a doctrine that allows you to be a LARPing based boy who can fight the kikes and still remain Christian.. that's not how it works. Sorry.

>>512906662
>you're telling me im reading greek wrong
Well yeah, because you're taught wrong by a glownigger. Why are ye doing so bad itt? Because you're not used to being challenged. You just sit in your discords circlejerking each other.

>>512905908
His whole personality is being bitter about Christianity rejecting him. If he dropped the act and just gave us the knowledge without having to depend so heavily on provoking normalfags, he might be a true mastermind who gets to present his magnum opus to a world deeply yearning for it. Hell, I'd even go out of my way to help the guy ensure The Mysteries really resurface Elusis-style, but he's just too far gone for me.
>h-he's possessed by a demon or something
No, he's just done too many experimental drugs and apparently gotten hooked on something a bit too hard.
Don't get me wrong the whole idea, to his astute credit, is Divine Madness ("Schizophrenia") like the Oracles were so well-known for. I commend him for leaning into it, as not anyone can effectively utilize the Frenzy and keep it together (which he's proof of), but it's hard not to admit he hardly keeps it together.

>>512892441 (OP)
>provides historical backing for sex rituals involving children
>rituals involving harvesting fluids and getting high
>doesn't ever try to connect any of this to modern day Satanism/pizzagate/chrome cults
>spends all his time grasping at straws to blame Christians
>groomed by the CIA
>fridge has nothing but a bowl of cold weiners
Ya that pretty much tells you everything you need to know

>>512906591
>It's definitely gnostic, it relies on a secret, "read between the lines"


But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. t. christ

>>512906796
Lol.. ok dude.

>>512906884
Once again, it's very evident you're blindingly confused and don't know what the words you're saying mean, let alone much about the contents being referred to in the wider context of the thread.
It's time to stop using the Submit feature.

>>512906662
>you're telling me im reading greek wrong
im telling that it doesn't say he had a sheet wrapped about his head, which you said was what kratou means.
>>512906662
>can be either refer to a naked body or private parts.
perhaps. it can also mean a grain instead of the whole head of the plant. in the NT it almost always refers to a the body or the seed.

>>512906990
dont mask simple cowardice with righteousness when you are a sinner daily just like me. oh you draw the line at going against those enemies of god like jesus commaded you to? i dont buy it you are simply scared and you tell yourself your fear is meekness

>>512907053
Nooe. You can't even point out my supposed confusion. Nice try.

BxuNg6ct is an obvious troll, which is sort of funny because the whole point of a Hillman thread on /pol/ is to troll the stupid normalfags who would never actually learn anything about the guy anyway.
So welcome, troll, I guess.

>>512906990
>>512907176
im sure you likewise discourage your brother against supporting americas punitive legal system? i suppose you likewise protest every war fought in your name right? vengeance is the lord only it seems when it comes to the synagogue of satan

>>512907282
ammon hill is an obvious troll who as ive already pointed out even if you accept his retarded definitions at face value his narrative STILL doesnt make sense if you even GLANCE at the passages hes misrepresenting

>>512906887
i was a classics student and have read greek for over a decade. I've seen the ammon podcast and looked into some of what he was saying but have never been to his discord and tried to watch a stream on his channel once and it was just incoherent ravings of a schizophrenic junkie. I can still agree with some of his translations and not be an obsessive faggot about it right? You seem a little obsessed with debunking this because your pride and skydaddy depends on it.

>>512907295
>lord
lord's

>>512907176
Of course I'm a sinner, we're all sinners, and we're all fall well short of what is asked of us... What does that have anything to do with your fringe interpretation of Genesis that literally nobody except a handful of schizophrenics hold to? Don't be a clown.

>hey this book from 1998 says Jesus was white and that we should go to war against the kikes
Textbook eisegesis

>>512906662
https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0057%3Aentry%3Dgumno%2Fs

maybe theres a use in there that means genitals. i dont see it. you have to wonder why the guys trying to arrest Jesus and all the other people there were grabbing at his cloth wrapped penis though, if thats what you want to say it definitely means.

seems a bit odd.

>>512907295
I don't know what the hell you're talking about. You told me to read a book that expouses a bizarre, fringe interpretation of the Book of Genesis that nobody holds.. failing to convince me of its validity you're now changing the subject

>>512907394
>Of course I'm a sinner, we're all sinners, and we're all fall well short of what is asked of us... What does that have anything to do with your fringe interpretation of Genesis that literally nobody except a handful of schizophrenics hold to? Don't be a clown.


argumentum ad populum btw
my point is that you will not judge a fellow sinner for his sin UNLESS the sin is specifically going against the literal descendants of satan and their synygogue as they slake their thirst on the blood of our brethren then suddenly its the time to judge and speak out.


the wolves themselves excised their own role from the parable of the shepherd and his sheep, wolves exist you cannot love your sheep and wolves at the same time you will love one and despise the other because of the intrinsic nature of wolves you cant love justice and tolerate evil a blow for the mouths of fools, jesus christ not only FASHIONED a whip he used it to and i intend to take up both his cross and his whip and go against the enemy of my white brethren even if i knew it made me an apostate i would do this

>>512907282
Can you actually elaborate on what the hell it is you're talking about or you just going to continue to make vague statements about how wrong I am without ever including what it is I'm actually wrong about?

Jesus didn't do drugs with little boys.
Genesis does not support the idea that there are two bloodlines-- the male and female

Both of those claims are made in this thread and they're both absurd heresy

>>512907394
>>hey this book from 1998 says Jesus was white and that we should go to war against the kikes
>Textbook eisegesis

i already explained the book just serves as a handy hey this is a compilation of relevant scriptures from the bible in one handy place, check the archives i nearly always recommend everyone checks the passages he references for themselves even if they trust him completley because i want them to KNOW that is just what the bible plainly says

>>512907367
>You seem a little obsessed with debunking this because your pride and skydaddy depends on it.
Not really no I just don't like being psyopped by glowniggers. The whole thing is sketchy and I've seen a couple of streams he did with his 'student's and they were all feminists who're trapped in sunk cost and clutching at straws that they were right to participate in the ruination of western civilization. Look how unhinged the people itt are and they refuse to answer questions, just move the goalpost like it's a respawn and the previous questions put to them that they couldn't answer were never asked. It's bonkers.

>>512907355
I agree, but probably not for reasons that will entertain you.
The white linen cloth and the nude child isn't weird or sexual - "Ammon" is insisting this despite surely better understanding.
An Initiation is often taken in full white clothing and the Essenes, an organization Jesus was affiliated with, commonly dressed this way.
>he was wiping the kid's semen off his face
Why was he "extracting the antidote-semen from the boy" in some random garden in the middle of the night?
Even then, if we follow David's story about what happened, he says Jesus didn't actually "acquire it" to begin with, so that means he wasn't jerking off kids in a garden. Why does he then continue to insist there was any wrong being done, especially since he's clearly read about initiations before?

>>512907678
>Genesis does not support the idea that there are two bloodlines-

it objectively does

14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

>>512907622
That's real cute.. but I'm not defending the kites, only reminding you what is commanded of us. It must seem like that from your perspective since it's probably all you ever fucking talk about..

>>512907715
It's a fringe interpretation that's been regarded as heretical since it's conception. Read Itenaeus' refutation from the 2nd century.

It's a fringe belief rooted in gnosticism, I don't know why you'd think people would be so readily accepting of it..

>>512892441 (OP)
Woah another grifter who wants to sit in the temperature-controlled environment of his human-sized dog house.

>>512907996
>That's real cute.. but I'm not defending the kites, only reminding you what is commanded of us.


i am reminding you it is commanded of us not just by god the father but by jesus himself explicitly in luke 19:27>>512906961
>But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. t. christ

>>512907899
So you're saying every Christian ever has gotten it wrong except for you and the half dozen people who hold to this fringe interpretation? And you're not a gnostic either?

Lol, stop being a clown dude

>>512907996
>It's a fringe interpretation that's been regarded as heretical since it's conception.


argue with me on its merits using scripture instead of appealing to authority you cant, im treating you still in good faith because i dont suspect you to be a kike, but i have argued nearly every day sometimes 72 hours straight twenty kikes LITERALLY at the same time and they could not confound me because i am aligned with the truth, just consider it please

>>512908159
>So you're saying every Christian ever has gotten it wrong except for you

you are saying that no christian leaders or early church fathers said the same about jews? that instead of debating them we should thrust a sword through their belly? that no earthly wars were fought by the early church in the name of jesus christ?

>>512905849
>>512906591
You clearly don't even know what "Gnostic" means. Why are you even clicking on this thread, clicking the reply feature or the Submit feature? You have nothing to add besides retarded not-reading-books ass comments.
At the very least read a book and then come here and participate in conversations.
>>512906240 Then there's this, where you make it extremely clear you have no idea what any of us are talking about.
"Church of Christ"? David's whole thing is he hates Christians. He's obviously not Christian.
>Christian Identity
You're unfathomably retarded. You obviously don't know what that means, you don't know what "Ammon" thinks about this and you don't know why he clearly wouldn't agree to anything like that or why that's such a hilariously retarded suggestion to make.
Why even bother coming here or making any posts? This is like me going to a Soccer forum and talking about how much I love my dogs. You're not even capable of discussing this subject. Why do you keep using words out of context and daring to verbalize such obvious confusions as if none of our time is valuable enough to avoid devaluing our conversation to your level of inexposure?

>>512908075
That's a line from a character in a parable, not an actual command from Christ himself. Again.. textbook esigesis. Lol

>>512908300
>That's a line from a character in a parable,

it is an exclamation by jesus christ after the parable is finished that seeks to sum up and clarify the parable otherwise explain to me the parable of the talents and what that line at the end their means in the context of the master who gave his servants talents

>>512908300
>its spiritual you gotta read between the lines

ironic

>>512908347
>their
there*

>>512892441 (OP)
Listen it was a different time back then and aoc law weren't established. The oil was kindness he has for his flock. Would you feel connect without oil, no it would hurt.

>>512908246
No I'm not saying that, you disingenuous retard.

>>512908263
The Christian identity movement was some noncriminal movement the writer of that book anon suggested was part of you, tard. You're all worked up and accusing me of being wrong about shit you're confused about, lol

>>512908459
>disingenuous retard.

dont accuse me of that, call me a genuine retard and ill tank it, im arguing with you in good faith

>>512908246
>no christian leaders or early church fathers said the same about jews?
Well don't be a cock tease, show us what you got. Also, you are kind of moving the goal post. Just because some early Christians believed something doesn't mean it's not heretical. But I want to see what you got before I criticize it. (I've been reading along. You guys are doing great.)

What you guys really need to care about with David's works are his references to Medea, why or how that relates to Jesus, why the "Purple" is so important, why David doesn't stop talking about "The Purple", why Jesus doing drugs all the time was important to note and what happened to his friends.
"Jesus" was famous for his spiked wine parties. Do any of you have any guesses what he may have put in the wine? Why did they interface with during the rituals? Do we have any takers? If you've read Muaresku, you'd know.

>>512908392
Lol.. you're so lost dude.


I'll let you boys continue your LARP, I've had my fill of crazy today

>>512908543
>it's all drugs
kek
>>512903187

>>512908459
Even if you weren't talking about David and were instead talking about someone else (a reasonable mistake since David's whole thing is undermining "jews"), this still doesn't excuse your egregious, audacious, unapologetic, unwitting admission that you don't know what "Gnosis" means.
If you can't even get to "something is wrong with Christendom" a la Kierkegaard, why the hell would you ever bother clicking on a thread about Hillman's work? Is this some mission to defend your favorite book by a guy you'll inevitably insist is demon-possessed?

>>512908568
you are upset with me, hey genuinely im sorry man, really i am, i could tell despite it getting heated that you are my racial brethren i enjoyed our conversation even if you didnt please dont let anything i said trouble you

>>512892441 (OP)
Calm down, it's gonna be aite, now watch my cat sunbathe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Fp8OTlCYU

>>512908543
yeah, and all that about The Purple is bullshit too. has no place in the NT whatsoever. all hillmans stuff about The Purple, like WOAH MAN THE PURRRRRPLE you know...you know...yeah, the PURPLE is just more of his drug obsession being projected onto whatever he reads.

too bad his books like any kind of referencing system at all though. would have been interesting to look into it more. oh i know, he said he wasn't allowed to include the references......but why not publish them on his web site or something? no, its clearly a load of crap just like how he treats words and context when it comes to this passage in Mark.

Theres no reason to subscribe to desert cults. Europeans already existed and had their own religions

>>512908707
David doesn't quite get the idea across. "Jesus" and his friends took spiked wines and talked to "dead people". What this means functionally is they performed shamanic journeys. What you'd frame it as is theurgy or exorcism. Ultimately, it's just a way to interface with your Ancestors.
>The Purple
>bullshit
It's not, I'm afraid.
You're looking for "Scythian Purple". The catch is you're not allowed to understand much more about it.
>this passage in Mark
I suggest Mark 4:11-12.

>>512908519
there is a collection of sayings by the church fathers agaisnt the jews that includes this that pops up now and again i know this will seem like a copout but i dont have it many of the quotes are from john chrysostem, i read and enjoy them but never saved them as i didnt think i would need too
martin luther said that they should be pushed down wells their churches burned and so forth and jesus said they should be brough before him and slain and thats more than good enough for me, and id do it anyway because i hate evil anon

>>512908767
Not going to lie, that video pissed me off a little. I was expecting cute cat antics and all I got was typical cat smugness.

The Torah was not ancient law from Moses but a late Hellenistic creation, first in Greek and then dressed in archaic Hebrew. No pre–3rd century BCE evidence shows it existed in manuscripts, inscriptions, or foreign records, and no one practiced the religion it describes until the Hasmonean period. Its prophecies were written after the fact, turning history into proof of divine plan. The archaic language is imitation, not survival. This means the Torah is political invention, not timeless revelation, a shift that shakes the foundations of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.

>>512892441 (OP)
He raped me in my dreams. He can’t keep getting away with it.

>>512908960
>The Torah was not ancient law from Moses but a late Hellenistic creation, first in Greek and then dressed in archaic Hebrew. No pre–3rd century BCE evidence shows it existed in manuscripts, inscriptions, or foreign records,


thats not true Silver Scrolls from Ketef Hinnom, dated to late 7th or early 6th century BC, contain text from Numbers 6:24-26, predating 300 BC.

>>512908960
>No pre–3rd century BCE evidence shows it existed in manuscripts, inscriptions, or foreign records
look up itt the thread. someone already mentioned this
https://armstronginstitute.org/45-ketef-hinnom-scrolls

>>512908921
>repackaging of the 'sacred mushroom'
Langley really needs to stop recycling the same material.

>>512909049
>and now we go through another 30 posts of denying this means anything at all
tiresome

>>512909106
anon you would never know it if you spent all your time here like i do, but i have friends who use twitter and they see in real time these ideas starting to spread, christianity is objectively in the midst of a revival. take heart

>>512908733
Why do you keep claiming I don't know what gnosticism was? you realize me and the other anon weren't even talking about the psychotic like in the OP and your retarded ass just wandered into our conversation and started screeching about things we weren't even talking about?

>>512908740
Lol. Have a good night buddy.

>>512909191
genuinely why are you still upset with me? i hope you do have a good night, without any malice or sarcasm genuinely, of all the people to be upset with our difference as far as i understand it is you think the dispensation of justice is purely the lords purview while i think we are to do like him without getting into it again, it seems a minor disagreement and that we are 99 percent in agreement on all things that matter. i liked talking to you this evening regardless how you feel

>>512909049
muh scroll has a short blessing from my competing storm god therefore everything else is true, muh amulet says yahweh is going to protect me

>>512909449
you said there isnt evidence of the torah predating 300 bc when there is. thats all

>>512909502
i'm sorry, did a torah jump out of the silver scroll?

>>512909078
Allegro gets a lot right but he was indeed defanged, sure. All of the guys who have access to those texts obviously are.
Still, he was much more correct than incorrect. The whole Siberian shamans drinking reindeer piss was a huge clue that you shouldn't have overlooked.
Also keep in mind that Hillman's whole thing borrows significantly from this pool of research. Besides, the CIA has put loads of funds into this sort of research. That was the point of the MK experiments - largely toxicology. This is what they were really studying. You know, Consciousness.
To learn more, I suggest Muraresku and some Julian Jaynes.
>>512909191
Why the hell can't you just fucking read books and then come here and have conversations? I'm not claiming that you don't know what it means, I'm pointing it out. It's painfully obvious based on your inadequate use of the term. You've done it more than once.

>>512908925
Our church fathers and leaders are not infallible despite what some denominations might have you believe. That is why, in my opinions scripture is above them. Anything they say must be backed up by scripture and our God given logic. That's where our councils our presbyteries ect come into play. Using the Bible as the rule book we can stamp out damnable heresies. Those things that truly take away from our Lord's words to us. So no matter the man, he is not above Christ and Christendom.

>>512909559
no but a section of numbers is copied on there exactly that predates 300 bc, just a minor correction on my part, i find comparitive mythology completely uninteresting ive had my fill of it with albert pikes moral and dogma its fifty percent such comparative mythology i dont find it interesting to talk about just corrected a factual error you made, iron sharpening iron

>>512909589
You're babbling and failing to make any points or even rebuttals. Take your meds, freak.

>>512909655
>Our church fathers and leaders are not infallible despite what some denominations might have you believe

oh absolutely and neither am i, i could be wrong and you might be right. i agree with you on the primacy of scripture i brought those church fathers up to answer your charge that i was the first guy to figure this stuff out, if you google it these ideas are said to be recent unless you really pay attention they will say it started on this date but british israelism predates that by hundreds of years and so on and so forth

>>512909692
Study something about Gnosticism. Anything. You evidently have no idea about it at all.

>>512909808
i read the entire nag hammidi libraries and gnosticism is laughably retarded satanic inversion, it relies entirely on the bible but claims its basic premises are wrong, then it says that god is the devil and a dragon (when the devil is the devil and a dragon) and that the serpent in the garden was not satan but jesus (first they render the serpent sophia and later jesus says he is sophia they word it as dense and confusingly as possible because if you actually decipher it the ideas are fucking retardiculous)

>>512909589
>Also keep in mind that Hillman's whole thing borrows significantly from this pool of research
I know, dude.
> Besides, the CIA has put loads of funds into this sort of research.
I know, dude.
>what they were really studying. You know, Consciousness.
kek
Since the bread is just about to die. I have schizophrenia. Imagine NOT having a body that produces excessive adrenalin that's then converted to adrenolutin in current years. Langley has the research, I have the experience. Still Christian, if you know then you know.

>>512910012
based christian berserker

>>512909808
I think I see what's happened here.. I referred to the book the other anon suggested as gnostic, and you being a Hillman fanboy thought I was referring to Hillman as a gnostic, and you got so butthurt you never recovered.

Don't fret, you haven't wasted your time though, because I consider Hillman a gnostic, too.

>>512910120
anon do me a solid and just read the pdf, and everytime he references a scirpture look it up in your own bible, so you can see the context and know its saying what hes telling you its saying, it will take you a half hour no joke this idea isnt gnostic in the slightest if it were hidden knowledge i wouldnt be running around giving it away for free like this, after all if a man had a bright lamp would he keep it under a basket? in a drawer? no he sets it up high so the entire room can be illuminated. the truth is not a shameful thing

>>512910227
does gnosticism cease to be gnosticism once written down?

I'm not reading your schizo Jesus was white and all the browns are devils book.. as pleasing a thesis as it is, I'm not retreating into pleasant fantasy to avoid scriptural commands.

>>512910227
>t were hidden knowledge i wouldnt be running around giving it away for free like this
Dude that's kinda dumb. Yes, Gnostic literally means something like hidden knowledge, but its not hidden. It's a belief system that is well known.

>>512909921
No way you read a very small amount of text and think you know much about the subject, just like everyone else. I'm very surprised right now. I assure you.
>>512910012
"Langley" is playing catch up, dummy.
>>512910120
No, you distinctly don't know what "Gnosticism" is. I'm not defending anyone besides the people who championed Gnosticism, which you seem to know nothing about.
>Hillman is a Gnostic
See, this is what I mean. Your flippant overuse renders the word completely trite. None of you faggots seem to know what the word means.

>>512892441 (OP)
I'm a pagan and antiabrahamic so believe me when I say that Ammons a gay fraud. Jesus wasn't a gay pedophile.
Neaniskos means young man and always also used to describe Jesus. The boy appears later at Jesus grave in the same Gospel. His nudity is a metaphor for the soul, because the gospel is designed for greek audiences
Now, I cannot debunk the weird shirt Jesus does with John or why he washes feet naked lol

Again, I urge all of you to actually read something about Gnosticism, not just claim you've read the Nag Hammadi texts.

>>512910577
>No way you read a very small amount of text


its the most comprehensive gnostic library there is its not a small amount of text


if you ask for a book that summarizes gnosticism from the point of view as a nongnostic as a christian for instance they will give you the run around, but once i pretended to be a faggot in one of these threads literally telling so called pagans and gnostics "im a homosexual man and my primary concern is which religion is cool with me having anonymous gay sex in public bathrooms what does the text for norse paganism say about homosexuality and what does the gnostic texts say on the matter" making it as obvious as possible for laughs but kike shills just took me at my word and started courting me, only THEN was i able to convince a shill to admit that the gnostic equivalent to a bible was the nag hammidi libraries i said id read them and thought they were shit, the kike shills instantly realized it was me and what id done the thread was deleted within seconds by mods off the front page
if there were any truth in gnosticism they would not be so coy about what that truth is, the truth doesnt fear examination but a lie closely examined falls apart so they are bashful about their retarded books unless you pretend to be a retarded gay guy lol

>>512892578
Copetards gonna cope

>>512910501
>It's a belief system that is well known.

ok, what is the gnostic equivalent of the bible where i can read more about his well known belief system?

>>512892659
Release the Jesus Files.

>>512910922
>his
this*

>>512910908
you notice when i want to talk about the original hebrew defintions in relation to the bible i will post the entire scripture unedited from the kjv in the thread and break it down further that way, notice ammon tards literally never do that because again even if you accept his retarded definitions they still dont show what hes saying they do in the context of the scripture hes referring to the scripture itself that hes talking about objectively refutes his ideas they are totally baseless

>>512910577
>dummy.
That's no way to talk to people who're traditionally the people you go to for advice. You're shilling shamans when God makes people like us for a reason. There's a reason why schizophrenics are medicated and vilified and it's not just for profit motives. Now go read more books about consciousness and take more exogenous drugs, fat lot of good it does you.