Thread 512975173

>Christianity comes from Judaism

Its actually the other way around.

Back in the day there was no Judaism, just the faith of Abraham and later the Israelites. At the time Jesus came there were 3 main sects, The Essenes (The only ones native to Judeah), the Sadduccess and the Pharisee (both being not native to Judeah).

The Pharisee are the Edomites (descendent of Amalek which the Israelites were told to genocide and which descent from the Canaanites which worshipped Moloch and such) which previously were forced to convert. However they really liked their old customs which were unlawful and thus they created the Oral Law. You know how in Court a Jew will use semantics, grey areas, loopholes and other pilpul to argue they didnt break a law which they never followed completly ignoring the intent behind the law? The Oral Law of the Pharisee is a guideline on how to do that with the OT Law.

This is the group of people pretty much all quarrels Jesus had was with and they were constantly rebuked for this by him, God himself, for being hypocrites, a brood of Vipers, even the children of the devil. Even their name describes them seperating themselves from the original

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisees

>"Pharisee" is derived from Ancient Greek Pharisaios (Φαρισαῖος). [8] from Aramaic Pərīšā )Hebrew: פרישא(, plural Parisayya (Hebrew) meaning set apart, separated"

So by all means the Pharisee splitted themselves off from the original faith which became known and was continued through Christianity and thus by all practical means was Pre-Christ-Christianity.

This Oral Law of the Pharisee then after a few 100 years got written down in the (Babylonian) Talmud starting what is now known as Judaism. So its not that Christianity is based on Judaism, but that Judaism is a collection of blasphemies and herasies of Christianity

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>>512975173 (OP)
>Christianity comes from Judaism
>Its actually the other way around
All prophets of Allah were Muslim. Simple as. Anything else is cope

>>512975173 (OP)
This is wrong, Islam is the first religion and the faith of the first man Adam, peace be upon him. All other religions either stem from a corruption of Islamic teachings (other Abrahamic faiths.) or are derived from Jinn idol worship, many of which are a combination of the two.
Christianity in particular was created by the Pharisee (((Paul))) whose goal was to subvert the true message of the prophet Isa, peace be upon him, in order to gain political power over the Roman Empire for the benefit of Jews.

Neat. I have a few questions:
Where does the kaballah fit into all this?
What the heck is a Jahbulon?

>>512975173 (OP)
Nice reddit post, but you're fooling no one.

>>512975173 (OP)
>Its actually the other way around.
bingo

>>512976274
It's true, Jesus was with God at the time of creation.

>>512975173 (OP)
Reddit Christcuck trying to spread his masturbatory cope.

>>512975173 (OP)
Imagine being white and we wuzing for a shit religion from desert monkeys
Unbelievable to shit colonized buck broke bitches do to cope with it

True. Talmud and Kabbalah were written way later, centuries after the Gospels were recorded.
Boomers think jews are just people who only read the OT, they don’t know about the satanic filth in the Talmud, and all the schizo Kabbalah stuff which is Babylonian mysticism and highly pagan with various named demons and shit that has absolutely nothing to do with the practices of the ancient Hebrews or the OT

>>512977187
no reddit bans people for posting bible verses against homos. this is literaly the only place you can get real christians talking about Christ. Enjoy it while it lasts.

>>512977402
Or zio-boomers DO know about the satanic shit in the talmud, but still make excuses for it anyway for some reason

>>512976126
Mooslems are yucky

>>512977402
I said centuries but it’s closer to a millennium later, especially with the Kabbalah shit

>>512975173 (OP)
>>Christianity comes from Judaism
it came from the greeks

The Torah was not ancient law from Moses but a late Hellenistic creation, first in Greek and then dressed in archaic Hebrew. No pre–3rd century BCE evidence shows it existed in manuscripts, inscriptions, or foreign records, and no one practiced the religion it describes until the Hasmonean period. Its prophecies were written after the fact, turning history into proof of divine plan. The archaic language is imitation, not survival. This means the Torah is political invention, not timeless revelation, a shift that shakes the foundations of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.

wait ten seconds for some retard to claim ketef hinnom silver scrolls. fragments of a pretty generic blessing that you could swap yahweh out for any of the other Mediterranean storm gods

>>512975173 (OP)
blablabla I dont care about your desert garbage

>>512975173 (OP)
I have to agree with you OP. It makes sense that modern day talmud jews came from the codified filth of the pharisees.

>>512975173 (OP)
I'm so tired of you chriggers doing mental backflips to avoid facing the reality of your messiah being a filthy kike, it truly drains me. I guess Jesus wasn't a jew and judaism doesn't predate christianity by a thousand years. I guess Jesus didn't study or taught the tanakh in synagogues.

You're right, Jesus was germanic, knew how to fly, created the precursor for judaism and hated faggots and niggers.

>>512975565
What if.. it was true, and the White Christians in Europe and across the wrold are the real "jews". What if, could it be?

>>512975173 (OP)
The oral law is also shit they just clearly made up and then lied and said it was passed down in an unbroken chain from the days of Moses. Which is an obvious lie, nothing gets passed down orally that long without being easily subverted and distorted over the generations. So they made up a bunch of falsehoods that they falsely claim has been around since the time of Moses, yet it wasn’t important enough to be recorded in the OT or the prophets’ writings for some reason (because they made it all up to break the rules)
You know that Broken Telephone game kids play when they’re in a circle of like 10 and pass around a word, and by the end of the circle it becomes something completely different between 10 people. Imagine trying to pass down anything “orally” for thousands of years when people can’t even keep the same word in a circle of 10 in one room

>The Pharisee are the Edomites
no proofs whatsoever for this

>>512975173 (OP)
What does it matter? Religion is superstition.

>>512977794
real jews are people chosen because of their faithfulness to God, do you think the people in Israel are real jews as they bomb the ever living shit out of Gazans and starve them to death? How could anyone that went through WW2 nazi concentration camps inflict the same judgement on their neighbors over a few hostages?

>>512977402
No, Kabbalah came from the Egyptians. Kabbalah as it's understood now was invented in the 12th century in Northern Spain and Southern France but it was just collecting the teachings and putting them together into one thing. Kabbalah is even older than Egypt, they got it from the Shemsu-Hor that came from Sumeria.

>>512975173 (OP)
Ah yes. The desert god of jealousy and envy. Given to rule barren wastes and soulless people. Now demands all the love and attention that other gods received. Monolatrists are the stranger of the bunch.

>>512978461
It just doesn't make sense.. why would they subject their neighbours to the same thing they "experienced".. it just doesn't make sense.

>>512976126
Your religion didn't even exist until way later

>>512976039
>>512976126
>everyone prayed toward mecca and it's black cube
LOL

>>512976244
kaballah comes from the middle ages

>>512977480
many don't even know it exists.

>>512978512
What a bizarre strawman

>>512975173 (OP)
If jews didn't exist before christianity, then why do you blame them for killing Rabbi Yeshua? :)

>>512975173 (OP)
Abraham, the desert psychopath who attempted to murder his son, because Yahweh the Semitic god of calamity and destruction demanded it?

>>512977695
It even says so on wiki.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisees

The Pharisees (/ˈfærəsiːz/; Hebrew: פְּרוּשִׁים, romanized: Pərūšīm, lit.'separated ones') were a Jewish social movement and school of thought in the Levant during the time of Second Temple Judaism. Following the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD, Pharisaic beliefs became the foundational, liturgical, and ritualistic basis for Rabbinic Judaism.

>>512975173 (OP)
based and truthpilled

Christ is King

>>512975173 (OP)
WE WUZ DA REAL JEWS! DAS RITEEEEE

>>512975173 (OP)
DAS RITEEEEEEEEEEE

>>512975173 (OP)
DAS FUCKIN RITEEEEEEEEE

>>512978828
Consequence of oversimplifying the issue. Modern Jews are the inheritors of the traditions that the ancient Jews had. They are not the same, but they're both bad. The ancient Jews were lead by corruptions of the Israelite faith, which Christ called them out on. Those same traditions made them the only people in the world wicked enough to kill their own God. And as the inheritors of those traditions, modern Jews are in much the same position.

>>512978505
Kabbalah is Babylonian sorcery, the same evil that corrupts the west under the guise of masonic judaism.

>>512979224
>>512979260
>>512979305
Seething

>>512975173 (OP)
DAS
RITEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>512975173 (OP)
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I LOVE BEING A REAL JEWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

>>512975173 (OP)
i am inclined to believe you

>>512975565
That’s not even what can be interpreted from what he just said. Way to flag atheism as disingenuous and irrational.

>gentiles are Jewish
Wonderful race-obsessed spite.

>>512979424
denounce the torah

>>512975173 (OP)
bearded hitler looks like dugin

>>512979378
Kabbalah is pretty much the foundation of Christianity. It's how you become like Jesus through Sophia, one with the Father consciousness.
>Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
In the Wycliffe Bible Jesus says to "Worship thy Father and thy Mother". The Wycliffe Bible pre-dates the KJV. This being misunderstood is why people say this verse contradicts the verse where he says "whoever doesn't hate their mother and their father cannot be my disciple". It's because he was talking about the Father and the Mother, Isis, the Barbelo who manifests in creation and us as Sophia.
See? You need Kabbalah to make sense of the Bible, without it you end up confused.

>>512979721
that's exactly what they are saying

>>512975173 (OP)
Interesting. I looked it up and the word "Judaism" isn't even mentioned in the Bible once.

>>512979322
No. The refrain on here is always that christians existed before jews, but then you also blame jews for killing Rabbi Yeshua. So the only assumption which can be made then is that Rabbi Yeshua was a schizophrenic who talked in the void to non-existent followers in non-existent synagogues preaching non-existent religion to non-existent people. And then was killed by time travelers from the future.

Or you could just admit jews existed 500 years before Rabbi Yeshua, and he was a jew too. Which shouldn't be so hard since he calls himself one in John 4:22 (as if there is any doubt from the rest of the NT).

>>512976039
>All prophets of Allah were Muslim
This. No one can prove otherwise and it makes them seethe. Every time

>>512980014
I don't see how that's an argument against what I'm saying

>>512976039
>>512980194
Muslim detected

>>512975173 (OP)
Christianity is a fulfillment of everything that came before in the OT. The jews of today are a mutt race that inherited a shade of whatever filth the pharisees were spitting when and before Christ walked the the Earth, earning his disparagement and later, disownment. Judaism is not "real" in the way most people understand, as Jews really follow the Talmud and NOT the OT. They follow the Oral Laws that survived in the Mishnah and were expounded upon in the Gemara and put those Oral Laws above the teachings of the Tanakh (Old Testament). They call themselves jews but are not.

>>512977902
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>>512975173 (OP)
>Its actually the other way around.
>Back in the day there was no Judaism, just the faith of Abraham and later the Israelites
>Different name therefore... different thing entirely!!!
Is there no such thing as Deutschland because we call it Germany? Better question, actually: if you throw a ball and it bounces around a corner, does it still exist even if you can't see it anymore?

>>512977902
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>>512981526


See>>512981617

>>512981324
That's a good way to say what I was trying to say

>>512975173 (OP)

Sort of true I guess. Modern day Judaism and Christianity both descend from an earlier form of Judaism.

None of this really matters though. It’s all nonsense and had nothing to do with white people until Christianity was introduced to us (by that I mean the old version of Judaism that you are calling “pre-Christian Christianity” or “the faith of Abraham and and the Israelites” was never practiced in Europe or by Europeans).

>>512981765
First of all, I don't care. Second of all, because I don't care, I will happily fall back on historical consensus, which states conclusively that Jesus was an adherent of an ancestral religion we now know as Judaism, even if it was called different things at different times. None of this shit matters to me. My purpose here was to call out OP's dramatically overcomplicated category error.

>>512977187
Seethe.

>>512976126
You are too retarded for rehabilitation. You'll have to face the wall with your buddies eventually.

>>512981508
>>512981983
Twin

>>512982115
>I'll debate for the Jewish consensus because I don't care

Why tf are you in this thread then?

>>512982661
Do you think there's a secret cabal of plumbers concealing a secret truth, too? Are you gonna perform half-baked hermeneutics on technical manuals?

>>512976126
>Christianity in particular was created by the Pharisee

You talk about islam like you know it, but dont even realize it says in Quran how Bible is holy book and text innit is legit Gods word

>>512979886
Lao tzu is my nigga, convinced me to read the bible in the first place.

>>512976274
Go back lurking, newfag

70 PAGANS destroy jew temple.
circa 2025, christians trying to rebuild jew temple.

mic drop.

>>512983290
I am the way, the truth, and the life. Rosicrucian teachings make a lot more sense if you're familiar with Taoism before you read them too.

>>512975173 (OP)
false. modern jews are the fake jews. Christians are the real jews: Christuans are idebtified by NOT killing Gaza kiddos.

The louder I get about code 19 Islam

The louder you idiots get about Christianity

You know I'm gonna win based on mathematical proof right?

>>512977745
>I guess Jesus wasn't a jew

No he wasnt. He was israelite, descendant of Jacob, and believed in faith of Abraham. If you read bible it says clearly Jesus triedvto convert jews back to original faith of Abraham.

>and judaism doesn't predate christianity by a thousand years.

No it doesnt because judaism didnt excist during times of Abraham. Faith of Abraham isnt judaism, and it was explained in OP post where judaism came from. Learn to read, then learn to understand what you read.

>I guess Jesus didn't study or taught the tanakh in synagogues.

You probably dont even realize "rabbi" in those days didnt mean same as "jew". Rabbi meant "master" or "teacher". Same with most of other things what people think today as "jewish".

Jews adopted those things long after christianity was born.

>>512976230
>I don't understand the book I am seething about 24/7

>>512975565
right, a jew is a bad thing because you know only the evil fake jews.

there were once good jews, read LXX, the real Bible

Why did the person who made this decide to make Hitler so symmetrical? It makes him look unsettling

>>512975173 (OP)
this is almost true but not quite
>The Pharisee are the Edomites (descendent of Amalek which the Israelites were told to genocide and which descent from the Canaanites which worshipped Moloch and such)
this is nonsense. The Israelites themselves turned to Moloch/Baal worship which was the entire reason God let them be conquered by Nebuchadnezzar as a punishment and subjugated by various empires for hundreds of years. Pharisess, Saducees etc were in fact jews (the reason they came to be called jews by the first century is just because they were Judeans and the tribes other than Judah basically mostly didn't exist anymore.
>>"Pharisee" is derived from Ancient Greek Pharisaios (Φαρισαῖος). [8] from Aramaic Pərīšā )Hebrew: פרישא(, plural Parisayya (Hebrew) meaning set apart, separated"
the reason they were called this and why the three sects split apart was because of a disagreement over the calendar and the law. Nothing about this disagreement involved them not actually being jews of jewish descent. You are correct about how the Talmud was written after the first century (you know this is the case based on how it literally mentions Jesus in it and they claim he was convicted and executed by the sanhedrin themselves - guess they just really wanted to take credit for it for some reason).

>At the time Jesus came there were 3 main sects, The Essenes
speaking of the Essenes and their calendar, they literally accurately predict Jesus' coming down to the time period and have various prophetic documents that match Jesus that were written before he was born (confirmed by radiocarbon dating of the Dead Sea Scrolls) so (You) better start praying anon.
>>512976039
>>512976126
the quran claims that JESUS is just a prophet, not the Son of God and the LORD incarnate, that he didn't actually die on the cross and be resurrected and it was actually a mischievous trick by 'allah' and basically you are the false prophet goat in Revelation serving the beast

>>512984015
I operate under the firm belief that all modern mystery schools are kiked and sullied similar to everything directly after lao tzu's work taking a very different blatant and gay eastern alchemy turn, but I have no reason to deny my off and on gravitation to look into the rose boys to see how I compare and contrast with them

>>512979462
>As if Judea is same as jews

I know this is confusing for some people, but Judea isnt same as jews.

Jews adopted many rituals in judaism, and its explained in OP why, but it doesnt mean those rituals were originally jewish.

Faith of Abraham isnt judaism, and it all starts from there if you want to understand difference between christianity and judaism.

>>512984105
You keep doing mental backflips you must have a whole circus in there. Jesus was judah, and by his time it referred to all israelites who practiced judaism, which he did. Matthew 1 Luke 3 traces his lineage back to judah, David and Abraham, making him ethnically jewish.

Judaism was a structured religon 1300 years before Jesus was born, and by the time of Jesus judaism already had the tanakh, the temple and a bunch of established sects. But you're right, judaism wasn't a thing until christianity came along kek. Also Jesus criticized legalism not judaism itself, keep doing mental acrobatics.

>>512984849
https://youtu.be/JOTNg58wxs8?si=8wMX_eAZNYAZcVqb
The One became 2, the 2 gave way to 3, and 3 gave way to the 10000 things.

>>512980014
>The refrain on here is always that christians existed before jews, but then you also blame jews for killing Rabbi Yeshua

Rabbi didnt mean during those times "jewish priest" or "jewish teacher", but "master" or "teacher". It didnt mean "jew".

Read OP again and this time try to understand. Its not that hard.

>>512984159
Why are Christian Identitarians so fucking cringe?

I'm not an anti-Christian like 99% of shills on POL but this is just fucking pathetic. The Bible clearly states that Israel is the Church, the people who follow Christ. The idea of Israel as a special little group of people with superior connection to God, AKA what jews believe in, is something from the Old Covenant which is fulfilled and as such no longer relevant.

This doesn't mean that Christians are supposed to let multiculturalism and interracialism into their countries, but at the same time believing that Anglosaxons are the only people going to Heaven is fucking pathetic and the sign of a megacuck

>>512976126
is it just me or does the arabic sigil for the name of allah look like a ;3 face?

>>512981526
What part of "faith of Abraham isnt judaism" you dont understand???

>>512979886
>jew twaddle

>>512979886
This is gnostic bullshit that doesn't mean anything at all.

Also both the Wycliffe and the KJV are man-made Bibles prone to error and issues. This is the big issue with being a Protestant and believing in Sola Scriptura

>>512980327
Irrelevant

>>512984850
>Judea isnt same as jews

>>512983254
>it says in Quran how Bible is holy book and text innit is legit Gods word
No it doesn’t

>>512985611
You're free to not believe me, but jews are the ones who largely reject this. Christianity is the "mystery religion" about finding the Kingdom of God within.

>>512982009
>Modern day Judaism and Christianity both descend from an earlier form of Judaism.

Did you understand single word from OP?

>>512985770
Judea is a tribe. Judeans were the members of the tribe. This was reduced to jews I think around the time of the KJV. But jews in the modern sense literally have no evidence that they are the jews of the Bible or that Christianity is related to Judaism besides going "OY VEY WE TOTALLY ARE YOUR SAVIOR'S PEOPLE, KEEP SIMPING FOR ISRAEL"

And then they made the Scofield Bible to brainwash the masses into believing that

>>512975173 (OP)
>splitted
The only actual Christians left are shitskins that believe this weird cope.

>>512982115
>Jesus was an adherent of an ancestral religion we now know as Judaism,

No. Faith of Abraham isnt judaism.

>even if it was called different things at different times.

No. Jew believe in Talmud, written centuries later after Christ in Babylon, and they worship different gods, have different rituals and ot is nothing but very distant version of faith of Abraham.

>>512984888

See>>512981617

>>512986553
Exactly hebrism=\ judisam

Modern Jewry is moloch worshipping

>>512986205
Israelites/hebrews/judeans/jews etc are all the same shit.

WE ARE NOT, AND DO NOT WANT TO BE, DESCENDED FROM SOME CAMEL FUCKER CALLED ABRAHAM.

Abraham is NOT my ancestor. Get it, christcuck?

>>512975173 (OP)
Nice and all, but that doesn't change the fact that:
1) It's desert shitskin religion, why are you larping as a desert shitskin?
2) A religion that preach kindness and pacifism is cancer for white souls who naturally already have way too much of those virtues for their own good.

>>512985741
I'll tell you something that'll help you make more sense with what I'm saying: the Hebrews were once the Vedics who migrated west after going east long ago. To give you an example, in Kabbalah the Tetragrammaton, or YHWH, is broken down into sections. Yod, the first letter, has 3 parts: the beginning, center, and end. This is considered to be phallic. They combine with Shekhinah who is feminine and the is the second letter H. This is Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva, the beginning, center, and end, and they're combining with Shakti/Shekhinah. This union is represented by the six-pointed star, the Shatkona or as it's falsely called the "Star of David".
Look up "Vedic Gods and Canaanite Gods" if you get the chance. There's art of Kali that's been found in Israel.
So these Hebrews that performed burnt offerings (Invoking Agni, the aspect of God that rules sacrifice and mediator between the physical world and the spirit) had practices where they undid the knowledge of good and evil, becoming one with the Father through working with the Mother (or as Orthodox Christianity calls it, Theosis which must be done through the Holy Spirit) through which they became the Sons of God. All of this knowledge originally came from the Sons of God in Genesis who took wives, it meant they were risen beings.
>Job 38:7
while the morning stars sang together and all the Sons of God shouted for joy?

>>512986646
Nobody said so, you're a descendent of Japheth

It's just to explain kikes aren't Israelites

>>512986646
Take your meds

>>512986912
No, I am not descended from anyone named in your Bible.

>>512987019
So you actually think you're descended from Abraham? LOL. This is where you get exposed.

>>512987019
Anon, stop wasting your time with extremely obvious Mossad/jeet shills. I don't even know why you bother trying to proselytize in a site well-known for shilling anti-Christian sentiments on every board possible and shutting down Christian threads as soon as possible. You'd have better luck going outside and convincing people on the street than doing anything here

>>512987225
>no one is a relative
>literally the opposing viewpoint is out of Africa followed by evolution with entropy gatekeeping on top of it.

>strawman!

Lot of anons in this thread say "it doesnt matter" or then they just male fun of these religions.

It all matters. What we see today in Israel, US senate, media and big jew owned corporations it all goes back to what really is judaism, who Jesus really was and in what faith he believed.

Jews pretend to be "chosen people" when in fact they are people what Bible is warning about, they pretend modern day Israel is their promised land when in fact there was no promised land for them, and Israel as name doesnt even have anything to do with jews or judaism.

People have made to believe jews are somekind of special people, specially for christians, when in fact jews have done everything against christians to exploit them and destroy & corrupt christian community.

Its important to use truth against jews and expose their lies.

All what has happened in past has everything to do with what is happening today.

>>512987320
Answer me, do you think you're descended from Abraham? I'm talking about the sandnigger who lived his entire life in a tent and tried to kill his son.

>>512976039
>>512976126
remigration, you're going back.

>>512987225
>So you actually think you're descended from Abraham? LOL. This is where you get exposed.

Where i have stated anything like that, you filthy kike?

You are using typical jew tricks to mess up things and make things confused.

>>512987272
Oh but this is perfect place to talk about these things. Lot of people seenthese threads, lot of people start to think about these things, lot of people will find out what is real.

Even if its only one more people who see these and start to think, its one more who probably will start to spread the word.

Against kike bullshit everything counts, every single one. This war has been going over 2000 years now, you dont win it by giving up.

>>512975173 (OP)
understanding the bible is easy:
OT = Dont do all that
NT = Forget all those jewish rules, love they neighbor, live a righteous life

>>512987983
Do you claim to be descended from anyone named in the Bible? Answer me, christcuck.

>>512978029
you're kind of a closed off dum dum if you cannot connect with your higher self and the surrounding universe

>>512987772
anon you don't need to jump through hoops like this as if there's some massive contradiction between the idea of the chosen people having fallen away from God. Read the Bible, it literally tells you how the Israelites fell away from God over and over and over again and in the end God punished them severely for all the child sacrifices to false gods and then their descendants were still of bad moral character even after getting the second temple and rejected their own Messiah that had been promised to them.
You only need to look at history; it's so bloody obvious what it means that the jews rejected Jesus and then instantly shortly after in 70AD their temple gets destroyed by the Romans and they never get it back nor have any more prophets or anything and are left on their own to suffer for thousands of years. It's so plain and obvious.

Modern jews are in fact the (very far removed) descendants of the original ones, it's just that they have been cast aside for being so unrepentant and nullifying their own covenant with God by rejecting salvation.
They were the chosen people and are now the synagogue of satan at the same time. There is no contradiction. That verse in Revelation about 'they say they are but are not' doesn't mean what you think it means. It's all about moral character, a state of mind. They are not because they do not meet the grade for being spiritually a chosen people anymore.

Being obsessed with earthly things like lineage and ethnicity and thinking it is of uptmost metaphysical importance is what you were told not to be concerned with. You were told to be concerned with Heavenly things instead. The fact that they are physically descended from the original jews keeps making you stumble for some reason, because you think the physical part matters.

>>512988491
>Do you claim to be descended from anyone named in the Bible? Answer me, christcuck.

A) why would i do that and B) what would it matter?

I have never even once sayed i am descendant of Abraham, Jacob, Jesus or Mickey Mouse. You are one who think i have sayed something like that and/or this thread is about christians being descendant of some biblical person.

I can have my faith and it has nothing to do with who im related, and this thread is about jews and their lies about being "chosen people", "having promised land" or saying Jesus was jew when he wasnt.

You are just some retarded filthy kike who is trying to derail this thread with stupid ideas. Fuck off.

>>512979429
jews get called out in the bible for their shenanigans, called dogs, evildoers, and mutilators

New International Version
Watch out for those dogs, those evildoers, those mutilators of the flesh.

Philippians 3:2

New Living Translation
Watch out for those dogs, those people who do evil, those mutilators who say you must be circumcised to be saved.

English Standard Version
Look out for the dogs, look out for the evildoers, look out for those who mutilate the flesh.

>>512989016
But surely you believe that you're descended from Noah? Do you not believe in the flood?

>this thread is about jews and their lies about being "chosen people", "having promised land"
You don't get it. EVERYTHING in the Bible is THEIR religion. Christcucks follow the ancestral religion of an insignificant tribe of sandniggers.

>>512976230
I wonder what the person who made this was thinking.

>>512988946
>They were the chosen people

Lol, they were never chosen people:

It was Jacob who blessing was passed, father of 12 tribes. From Jacob come israelites, those who believed in original faith of Abraham. Jesus was israelite and he believed in OT faith of Abraham, most of he's troubles come from trying to convert "jews" back to original faith and fighting against their lies.

Jews are edomites, descendants of Esau, and they are ones who started to practise demon worshipping and stuff from Canaanites.

>>512988946
>The fact that they are physically descended from the original jews keeps making you stumble for some reason, because you think the physical part matters.

You dont seem to understand, its them jews who keep using their lies about being chosen people who has rights to promised land against rest of the people.

In US alone over 50% of christians believe jews are chosen one and Israel is their promised land, which is fuckin joke and makes me wonder if they have read Bible at all.

All this matters, christians must understand real position of jews, Bible is literally book warning about jews and their lies.

>>512975173 (OP)
There's no judaism. It's called rabbinism. They follow rabbinical doctrines, like the Talmud. Modern jews have nothing to do with the Old Testament.

>>512989532
what you are saying is ahistorical heretical fanfiction that shows you have never really read the Bible.
Where does it say in the Bible that jews in the NT are edomites descended from Esau? Does Jesus say it? No, it's just some quirky idiosyncractic 'this is my personal fun special interest version' fanfiction bullshit you made up for who knows what reason. Because the idea of the chosen people having fallen away and being eventually rejected is so baffling to you for some reason. Or because you have some narcissistic self-serving need for it to be where you are somehow ackshually the real chosen people for purely vain self-exultant reasons. I already said things like ethnicity don't matter, you are chosen in Christ.

God himself says it is his chosen people who are worshipping false gods and performing moloch sacrifices. If what you are saying was true, verses like the following make absolutely no sense
>Jeremiah 19:10-15
>“Then break the jar while those who go with you are watching, and say to them, ‘This is what the Lord Almighty says: I will smash this nation and this city just as this potter’s jar is smashed and cannot be repaired. They will bury the dead in Topheth until there is no more room. This is what I will do to this place and to those who live here, declares the Lord. I will make this city like Topheth. The houses in Jerusalem and those of the kings of Judah will be defiled like this place, Topheth—all the houses where they burned incense on the roofs to all the starry hosts and poured out drink offerings to other gods.’ ”
>Jeremiah then returned from Topheth, where the Lord had sent him to prophesy, and stood in the court of the Lord’s temple and said to all the people, “This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: ‘Listen! I am going to bring on this city and all the villages around it every disaster I pronounced against them, because they were stiff-necked and would not listen to my words.’ ”

>>512989532
"Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in."
Romans 11:25

In other words, Jews rejected the messiah, gentiles will accept him. If you are a Christian identitarian, Europeans are Jews and the people we call or who claim to be "Jews" today are gentiles. If that is the case, how come the verse fits the fact that the "Jews" of today rejected Christ, while the Europeans accepted him?

>>512989457
>You don't get it. EVERYTHING in the Bible is THEIR religion

No, its you who doesnt get anything at all:

Literally everything in white west is based on christianity, starting from music and music theory. Classical music, what is most pure white music, is straight from christian religious music mixed little with old folk melodies. Everything white west has done has roots on christianity, and literally everything started to evolve to modern white society soon as pagan religions were abandoned.

Yeah, there wss different religions before, but christianity was first one what actually united whole white europe and spread white community around the globe.

>>512990280
No shit, Sherlock?

>>512975173 (OP)
Samaritans the real Jews of antiquity?

HALLEY'S BIBLE HANDBOOK
The Samaritans were a mixture of the few Israelites who stayed behind when the northern kingdom was deported by the Assyrians, and people from elsewhere whom the Assyrians, 700 years before the time of Jesus, had brought into what had been the northern kingdom (2 Kings 17:6, 24, 26, 29; Ezra 5:1, 9–10). The Samaritans accepted the Pentateuch (the five books of Moses: Genesis through Deuteronomy). They were expecting the Messiah to make Samaria, not Jerusalem, his seat of government.

Jesus was being eyed with suspicion by the rulers of His own nation, but here the despised Samaritans received Him gladly. One of the constantly recurring contrasts in the Gospels is the repudiation of Jesus by the religious leaders of His nation and His acceptance by the outcasts, sinners, and common people.

WIKIPEDIA
Samaritans are an ethnoreligious group who originate from the ancient Israelites. They are native to the Levant and adhere to Samaritanism, an Abrahamic and ethnic religion.

Samaritan tradition claims the group descends from the northern Israelite tribes who were not deported by the Neo-Assyrian Empire after the destruction of the Kingdom of Israel. They consider Samaritanism to be the true religion of the ancient Israelites and regard Judaism as a closely related but altered religion.

>>512990323
>Where does it say in the Bible that jews in the NT are edomites descended from Esau?

Are you some kind of special retard? This is not some new discover, just found out two weeks ago. This is literally Bible basics, story about two brothers, what happened to them and their children.

>>512990502
Where in the bible does it talk about musical theory?

>>512990917
>Where in the bible does it talk about musical theory?

Where did i say it talks about musical theory, retard?

>>512975173 (OP)
> just the faith of Abraham and later the Israelites

Which was and still is called judaism.

Well this is a pointless thread

>>512991476
>Which was and still is called judaism.

Lmao.

No, not at all.

Only pointless thing is your lack of understanding.

>>512991476
The Christian claim is that the OT reveals God as trinitarian, that pre-incarnate Christ was the one who appeared to Abraham and his descendants, and jews are jews because they rejected Christ when he became incarnate to tell them first hand that Abraham worshiped him and the trinity.

>>512976244
u saying wat bloddy

>>512991703
The only people in history to claim jews aren't jews are christians and muslims, who have an obvious ulterior motive. Atheists or any general non abrahamic religion have no such delusions.

Jews are jews, hate to break it to you. They're not pretending, they're not 'rejecting jesus'. If anything they have the better argument considering jesus apparently kicked the messianic age can down the road, which was the only miracle he couldn't hearsay his way into history with since you can't really ignore predator making peace with prey for a thousand years.

>>512991900
>The christian claim
And why would I ever care about that? Christians are idiots with a brutal, bloody agenda of world domination. Every western country's christian for the last 2000 years.

>>512989080
when in doubt, try this
CLINICAL TEST QUESTION
>are you descended from south asian subcontinental ancestry?
any answer longer than "no" means yes
not answering means yes
lying means yes

>>512991996
Now you know.

>>512980327
that's quite a muslim detecting skill you have there. are you descended from south asian subcontinental ancestry?

>>512990911
earlier you claimed that it wasn't the actual Israelites who were doing things like sacrificing to baal when clearly the text says that is the case. Nowhere does it say that the jews in the NT are not actually descended from the Israelites and are edomites descended from Esau. You are just making things up. And based on your posts you clearly prioritise self-serving things like ethnicity over the Bible and are just using Christianity as a subordinate vessel for your actual self-serving concerns, prattling on about the white west and whatnot

you are a false Christian and don't even really believe, hence your un-Christlike behaviour and priorities. You are not truly interested in the truth written in the Bible, just whatever you think you can harvest from it and twist for other goals.

>>512991938
Shalom kike

>>512975173 (OP)
kikes will disagree
Shocking that the race that codified being ethnic parasites would still be doing it.

>>512991900
>jews are jews because they rejected Christ

Jews rejected original faith and started to worship Canaanite demons, having human sacrifice rituals and all that.

>>512991263
What does christianity have to do with classical music then? You claim everything in the white west is based on christianity, does that include the architecture as well like I see a lot of christians imply? What does christianity have to do with european ingenuity? It would be just as silly to claim the roman's belief in a pantheon had anything to with their advanced civilization, given that other people had a pantheon and weren't as advanced. Likewise, many africans are christian, where's their classical music? You say everything started to evolve to modern white society, but christianity was born when rome, the pinnacle of european civilization at the time, was collapsing, and we didn't get back to roman levels for a while.

>>512984888
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoLalR39aTc

>>512992354
I'm summarizing because people raised in the Protestant reinvent-the-wheel mindset usually do not know this.

Why Jews are NOT "God's Chosen People"

https://youtu.be/4I8Fe02Xads

>>512991938
Nice try, kike.

>>512977867
>The oral law is also shit they just clearly made up and then lied and said it was passed down in an unbroken chain from the days of Moses
it's all a load of bullshit they clearly made up

>>512992432
The only jeet in the whole of garrotxa, probably got exorcised and sent to samsara by a group of locals in his way to the mountain.

How does this relate to Jesus being a fucking kike though?

>>512991938
>They're not pretending, they're not 'rejecting jesus'.
Yes they are. They literally say so themselves in the talmud where they say Jesus was a sorcerer and condemed by the sanhedrin. They even have other random folklore traditions dedicated to mocking Jesus in fact.
>If anything they have the better argument considering jesus apparently kicked the messianic age can down the road,
you, like jews, don't understand the Messianic prophecies.
The part where the Messiah comes as an Aaronic priest to re-establish the Lord's people and bring them back into the fold and where he is speared and cut down - and then the part where the Messiah is a conquering King who reigns when the day of the Son of Man happens are two separate events that don't happen at the same time. This is a misunderstanding and Jesus clearly said he would return.
>>512991996
>the actions of followers somehow invalidate the factuality/truth claims of the beliefs themselves
I will always be baffled why midwit jews and athiests think this works as an argument. Christians oppressing people doesn't somehow make Jesus not the Messiah.

>>512977690
saar

>>512992267
Nice try, kike.

>>512978828
which is your favorite baseball squadron

>>512977402
>with various named demons and shit that has absolutely nothing to do with the practices of the ancient Hebrews or the OT
Jesus and Paul considered Enoch and Jubilees to be canon, which also contained various named demons and shit that has absolutely nothing to do with the practices of the ancient hebrews or Tanakh. Inconvenient for you?

>>512979118
is it ok if i read this in your dad's accent

>>512979305
all of your thumbnails cause instant disinterest. who's going to read essay memes from a frantic caps locking pajeet

>>512992919
You haven't refuted anything he said.

>>512979886
pajeets are pretty much the foundation of jew support now. how do you feel about that

What's the point of this thread?

If your average /pol/tard hates Jews more than they want to know the truth about God then what does it matter if Christianity didn't come from Judaism? The only thing on the mind of the Nick Fuentes gay kid community is JEWS JEWS JEWS. That's your idol, that all you care about and if all Jews were wiped out overnight that wouldn't lead any of you to Jesus.

>inb4 you are a Jew lover because your post didn't hate Jews as much as I would like!!
If I was a Jew lover would I be able to post this link? - https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/02preaching/Sermons_Pastor_Anderson/The_Jews_&_Their_Lies_Part_1.mp4

>>512983920
oh snap that mic fell almost 4 feet

>>512992393
>What does christianity have to do with classical music then?

Are you stupid?

Classical music come straight from religious music, church music. Church music come from religious monk chants.

Christianity has formed everything in white west, even architecture, and different religions have formed local cultures in different places. In old days religion had more power and it was more seen in everything, white west was no exception.

>It would be just as silly to claim the roman's belief in a pantheon had anything to with their advanced civilization,

Pantheon isnt originally christian building and Rome wasnt christian empire. Then again later when christianity spread to Italy it was one of the biggest influence in everything.

>Likewise, many africans are christian, where's their classical music?

You could ask where is their big cathedrals, modern cities and so on. Still, even they have religious christian dongs and chants, mostly same as whites have because it was white people who got most of africans convert to christianity.

Try to read some history, its all in there.

> but christianity was born when rome, the pinnacle of european civilization at the time, was collapsing,

And when christianity spread around europe? Was it all around europe when it was born?

Do you have hard time to put things in time line, in perspective, and think how things might have evolved, or do i really need to explain every basic detail about our history?

It's impossible to know the true ethnic origins of the jews because the book of Esther very clearly lays out that a whole lot of non-jews started calling themselves jews out of fear of Xerxes and Malachai. Well, I say 'clearly' but some translations have done a good job of sweeping that under the rug by woefully changing 8:17. The jew civil war they had in the book of Nehemiah around the same time makes it impossible to definitively discern anything one way or the other.

>>512975173 (OP)
No, christcuckery does come from jews and judaism. You pilpuling and calling them something else is super fake and gay.
Why do people think that a desert jew religion is right for the white man?

>>512989481
it was a pajeet, trying to repackage a pajeet meme happened first in the same format. pajeets are the embodiment of "the left can't meme" crossed out with "right" scribbled on it.
absolute creativity vacuum with these pajeets

EVERY PAJEET SAYS
>$45T stolen by britain * abrahamic * actually jews are cool * age of consent * AI singularity/waifu * aryan * booba/sexo/would * built for bbc * can't breed * ceo doctor technology * chang seething * christcucks * consent is a western concept * daily reminder * faustian spirit * full sapport for israel * good morning * help i'm fucking indian help me * household income * human capital * hypergamy/[incel noises] * i can pass for xyz * indo-[whatever] * model immigrants * mom/sister on onlyfans * कुछ भी महत्वपूर्ण नहीं है * [other ethnicity] is guilty of [pajeet thing] * paganism is your real heritage * [redditor noises] * rent free * saar * send bobs/vagene * slave morality * stem skill issue * timmy/timmies * triggered * trvth nvke * voted for it * where are the jannies * where should i move * whiter than you * why are white women white people * you need us * you will be extinct * you won't do shit * you worship xyz

>>512993268
Well there is simple picture about different tribes and bloodlines vs their relation to different religions. All this information is written in both OT and NT.

None of this has never been any secret knowledge or something what has bern found two weeks ago, its all pretty much common knowledge and been like that few hundred years

>>512975565
>>512975669
You niggers make me proud
>>512976230
>>512977187

>>512994650
Fuck off, retard, it has been explained many times why you are wrong.

>>512994930
did you mean to type that in discord saar

>>512994989
I caught a suckdeep spamming Nick Fuentes shit earlier. Sad.

only a few specific groups have the time or inclination to spam anti-christianity so frequently. one of these groups (pajeets) is much more numerous and less qualified than the others

>>512975173 (OP)
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The Essenes were very interesting. They're the reason we have the dead sea scrolls because they where the ones that hid them. They were oddly absent from the gospels despite being all over the place.

>>512992746
oh i'm not here to talk about jesus
i'm here to talk about who makes all these threads every day

>>512994406
>Christianity has formed everything in white west, even architecture
That's demonstrably not true, if Christianity was the cause you'd see Christians of other races create the same things
> Still, even they have religious christian dongs and chants
Ok so not classical music, come back to me when there's a black Mozart, Beethoven, or Bach because of Christianity.
>Pantheon isnt originally christian building and Rome wasnt christian empire.
What are you talking about? By pantheon I mean their Gods, other people had similar pantheons because they were indo-european, but they weren't as advanced as Rome, point being is that their religion didn't have to do with their advanced civilization, likewise Christianity didn't either since Christians of other races aren't advanced like Europeans are.
>And when christianity spread around europe? Was it all around europe when it was born?
So it just takes a thousand years or more for Christianity to have it's effect, and even though it came about during Rome's collapse that doesn't matter, Christianity is still somehow the cause of European creativity despite it having little correlation.

>>512975173 (OP)
>So by all means the Pharisee splitted themselves off from the original faith which became known and was continued through Christianity and thus by all practical means was Pre-Christ-Christianity.
The Essenes were considered heretics by the other sects, who barely got along themselves because of bloodline issues: the Sadducees were the priestly bloodline but the Pharisees had their own priests.

FUN SCAVENGER HUNT
search pieces of my filenames (such as "scalp") or pastas (such as "south asian subcontinental ancestry") in 4plebs /pol/ to see what kinds of threads i redeem. the full range of pajeet treachery may surprise you

>>512996034
Bro everytime you're in a thread you mass spam about jeets despite the thread not being about jeets, and you don't respond to anyone, is it a surprise the jannies do their job?

don't you have something else to talk about? bro bro? you do you

>>512996186
I don't know all that and im not smart enough to learn it, all I know is satan is bad. I see cross I smile, I see a black cube/jew star I frown. Simple as. No shame in being dumb, because smart people exist. I want to smesh all snakes and crush satanists skull into dust for jesus

>>512994657
I believe this explanation for lack of anything better.

>>512980014
You can fool yourself, that is easy, but God sees you. I pray that you depart from wickedness and beg Jesus Christ for life.

jannies need to get fucking slaughtered for not banning these blatant christcuck spam bots

>>512990502
big talk from someone with a memeflag. if you're so 'western' then let's see what your real flag is. guatemala? mexico? phillipines?

>>512998025
are you going to be ok precious child

you might notice a common thread running between everything i post, and it's not religion.
the religion is incidental, now, here
other times it's other things
but the common thread remains