Thread 513086548

Disagree, americans can do those jobs, they just won't do them for less than 20 the hour

>>513086548 (OP)
good everyone can starve

>>513086548 (OP)
they're on meth

if course methworkers are bedduhr than ubber worgers

>>513086548 (OP)
>for the wage that the migrants were earning

>>513086655
they won't work tirelessly in the heat on el chapo's meth

methworkers

>>513086679
regardless, sober people don't work that hard in the heat. they take breaks.

methworkers

when i see a salad i see a meth fueled american addiction

>>513086548 (OP)
I dont actually want farmers here. I would like to see massive year round engineered farming somewhere incredibly remote. Like in Blade Runner

>>513086548 (OP)
Pay more then, creeps. Modern problems require modern solutions.

>>513086548 (OP)
We went to the moon yet we can’t figure out how to pick vegetables? Is that what you’re saying? Do you know how that sounds? Question mark?

>>513086548 (OP)
>farmers want cheap slave labour
wow shocking stuff really
kill yourself, painfully

>>513086876
they are methworkers

>>513086876
>We went to the moon
kek

>>513086548 (OP)
>americans are mentally unfit
agreed

>>513086655
thats because they cant go back to mexico and fuck hookers for 2 pesos

>>513086548 (OP)
We wouldn't be if we got easier access to drugs and specialized care but we can't have that while the endless immigration train continues. Migrants can come here and jump straight onto welfare insurance, while poorer citizens have to fight to near-death for it.

>>513086548 (OP)
>We MUST enslave niggers!
>What, you expect whites to do this shit???
Then they call you a racist for not putting browns back to work at the plantations. Democrats; enslaving niggers from 1828 to 2025/

>>513087036
thats a mexican

Americans WILL be replaced

>>513086548 (OP)
Why doesn't the farmer mention how much he is paying these American workers? There is always more to the story other than "hurr durr Americans are simply lazy".

We can sell meth and kill cartel as good as any Mexican
USA USA USA USA USA

>>513086548 (OP)

Sorry, they have machines and robots to do the spic picker jobs now

>>513086548 (OP)
New slide topic huh mod?

>>513087167
This, if these farmers don't have their slave labor anymore and apparently Americans are naturally lazy according to this farmer why not automate the farm work? Automation of farm work should have been done already but since it is not it is almost as if farm work is a jobs program for non-citizens.

this is why you don't socially engineer your population into cities to be factory workers.
nation lost its agrarian backbone. they replaced generational farm families with corporations and slave labor.
faggots can give corporations billions in handouts and bailouts and discounts but they can't incentivize a recovery of america's agrarian backbone?
try harder faggots

>>513086548 (OP)
Farmers can't expect to be traitors to their nation by hiring illegal aliens, and then think they can hire US citizens at a slaves wage. Fuck those welfare kweens and their globalism bro.

>>513086548 (OP)
Anecdotal reports do not dictate reality.

Who lives in Alabama? Who even knew about this except for a handful of potential candidates? We we have the ability to talk to anyone in the world from whatever the fuck we are via technology.

Why does the media always parade a simple sentence by one person as a deliberate narrative to convince.....sheep.....ah, I get it

Yeah I'm sure they really tried to lure in talent.

>>513087337
They are welfare queens too. They get subsidies to grow shit no one wants. Pay your workers, faggots.

>>513087337
Name one farmer who has been punished

>>513086548 (OP)
The usual response from Timmy in the rocking chair is we'll automate it, completely oblivious to the fact that farmers and industrial mechanics/machinists have been trying to do it for the last 30 years, but there are things a machine can't do practically/cheaply.

>>513086548 (OP)
okay. then pay your farm workers 100k/yr, itll sort itself out.

>>513086548 (OP)
Turns out, American workers tried to fill those jobs...
So I guess the claim that Americans felt they were above that work really was bullshit.
>Buh they demand more money than the migrants!
No shit, migrant workers used to be paid below U.S. federal minimum wage because that was still a king's wage in Mexico, then democrats pushed through legislation that they had to be paid at least the federal minimum wage and they made an even bigger killing. Federal minimum wage in the U.S., is minimum wage in the U.S.; Americans have to place to run to with minimum wage and live like a king, unlike migrant workers. It turns out, you're going to fuck American workers worse by not paying above minimum wage. Now you understand why so many social services, that are supposed to be meant for Americans, were being used by migrants while they worked in the U.S.

>>513086548 (OP)
amerimutts are fat and crazy

I guess the farmer should have invested in robotics, rather than Paco.

It’s actually kinda crazy how no matter if we’re using blacks, the Chinese, or Mexicans it’s necessary to use some form of slave or very underpaid labor from other races in order to be a truly luxurious nation

No matter what, if we want life on easy street this is just something we’re going to have to contend with as a necessity

We defiantly do have a white trash problem in the west in addition to the immigrants.

Was building furniture in my yard in a supposingly middle class area. I get to hear this drunk boomer retard breaking his beer bottle for the dozenth time "ah fuck muh beer" yes your drink you idiot. Then you hear his attention whoring son who sounds like he takes it up the ass 'that's gay, he's gay, that ones gay" we get it your a faggot in the closet in between boomers single mother daughter screaming like a complete god damned retard every 5 mins.

People like that need to be sterilized.
I'm 100% on board with the Reich at this rate.

We can't have nice things like neighborhood's because of these retards, thank fuck I was sucked into buying around here.

Honestly I wouldn't even care but these retards act like this at least 2x a week.

>>513086548 (OP)
Okay. Make the jobs more rewarding. Increase your costs if you have to. Stop being a slave labor market. Fucking cunts.

>>513086805
I've concluded that's a better system for many countries.

At least in blade runner we have order.

>>513087398
Why do sceptre suckers somehow always conveniently forget that the U.S. was originally a collection of overseas British colonies, that the British shipped slaves (that they bought) into to work on the lands of its colonies?

Torchlight toiling. Set up solar lights, headlamps, lots of ways to get picking done. Doesn't need to be done in the blazing sun. There are even canopies that tractor down the rows. I'll pick. But I'm not doing it in the heat of the day. It's not the 1800s.

>>513086548 (OP)
lol. I see mexicans all the fucking time and half of them are fat as fuck. Those workers quit because you paid them peanuts, not because they are unfit. Stop being a fucking kike and pay respectable wages and treat employees like fucking human beings and suddenly everything will work out. Stop crying that you no longer have a second class slave citizenry you can exploit and fuck over for kike profits!

>>513086876
>We -anything-
nigger, you can't even get fucking laid

>>513086548 (OP)
$70 to $100 a day?
There's your problem right there. I'm not going to do backbreaking labor in the sun for 8hrs straight for $12.50/hr. Wages need to triple for Americans to consider that job.

>>513086548 (OP)
Have they considered paying a living wage? I don't need a 5th job after my 2 part time seasonal jobs end

>>513087852
It's the same shit here. Billy boomer doesn't want to pay a decent wage for the job or hires their 80iq kid and puts them in charge of things.
"Omg goys where everyone go".

I really don't like western society anymore.

>>513088063
LOL you just know they're paying most $71 rather than $100.

It's crazy how many Americans just casually and openly say that they need their illegal slave workers and pretty much brag about it.
Here not only the illegal worker would have to pay a big fine the employers would have to pay even a bigger fine.
Usa is really Jewish capitalism end stadium.

>>513086548 (OP)
Fat boomer owner of farm: "Americans won't work like slaves under the threat of deportation so durr ahh they ain't fit to work."

He just wants his slave labor back

>>513086548 (OP)
>"farmer"
You get the one guy that sucks dick for illegals and blast him on media as if he holds the generally accepted viewpoint. Go fuck yourself.

>>513086548 (OP)
Big Farmer is just as evil as Big Pharma.

>>513088173
It's why everyone hates boomers.

>>513086548 (OP)
This is why we need Massie28. We need a principled libertarian to ensure that we have infinite slave labor, manufacturing overseas, and sex changes for people that want to pay for them here legally. The future is libertarians.

>>513088163
The only way I could see it being an even remotely fair deal is if they let you live on the farm in your own space and feed you all your meals like a hand in the old days.

>>513086876
>can’t figure out
You cant actually be so retarded to think that, no one "cant figure it out" the pay is so laughably low that you literally live like a NEET except you also slave away in 100 degree direct sun for 13 hours a day...

>>513086548 (OP)
jews poison everyone for decades then wonder why they can’t do anything

these people are supposed to have high iqs

>>513088063
huh? you think $45/hr is enough?

>>513086655
We're way too fucking fat, Jose. I know most of you are fat too, but not the ones you send here.
That's the difference between our countries. In America, the poor are fat and the rich are skinny. In Mexico, the poor are skinny and the rich are fat.

>>513088401
Almost any teenager or 20 something your old would work their ass off for $30/hour

>>513088477
In 2006.

>>513088401
Yes.
I'd say wages should be commensurate with whatever entry level construction jobs in the area pay to be competitive. With a clear path to making more if you prove you're not a lardass.

>>513086548 (OP)
Migrants were buying homes and raising families back home on those wages. Americans have no such luxury. I can farm just fine, why should I feed the rest of you?

>>513088063
It's according to what you are doing. My grandpa was in his late 70s and still doing almost all of it himself on 2k acres just him and my granny and a tractor. He would get up early, had a specific routine, come in for lunch, take a nap on the floor in the doorway to catch a breeze, eat cold watermelon and let the heat of the day pass and get back out there, work until dinner, go feed hogs afterwards and water the cows, watch Dukes of Hazard or HeeHaw and call it a night. My granny stayed up until Mannix went off and then get up around 7 and start cooking for the day. And cooking meant stringing up a chicken in the fig tree lopping it's head off plucking all the feathers singeing the pin feathers and frying that chicken up for the lunch table. She died in her 90s. My grandpa in his 80s.
Neither one of their backs were ever broken. If they didn't grow it they didn't eat it, and tons and tons and tons of it went to market year after year. Every once in a while watermelon pickers would show but usually it was them and my older brother when he spent summers there. If old people and a boy can do it it ain't that big of a deal.

>>513086548 (OP)
>fat retarded boomer complaining workers aren't more cost effective than slaves
Put him in the field until he fucken dies.

>>513086805
I want to farm on a remote farm.

>>513086548 (OP)
Jewish propaganda

>>513086548 (OP)
that fat fugger needs to pick his own damn cotton. he would die.

>>513086655
Average American worker is 42.2 years old, overweight, and has some sort of back pain. Many literally can't do that work. We also have below-replacement-level birth rates, so this situation is only going to get worse.

>>513088277
It's crazy how a single generation can he so shitty. Not only did they outsourced most jobs to the third world you have to compete with every subhuman in the planet in your own nation who are happy to work nonstop as slaves for 1$ a hour.
And of course their push for shitskin and women quotas creating race and Sex based discrimination oh and of course their cracking down on unions and company pensions while boomers are unfirable and will still get their big pensions.
The worst generation to ever exist.

>>513086805
times changed
hustle and bustle of a mega city is a primary goal
from year 2000 and on everyone deserves to work in the office (as a supervisor) and receive $100k minimum wage
breakfast,basedachino break,lunch,brunch and happy hour
that is just the way it is

no moar plebs
everyone has basedcial media account

>>513088477
That 30 bucks an hour line farmers shit out is a meme. It's 30 bucks an hour, 14 hours a day, 6.days a week straight with no benefits, insurance or overtime. You know, things guaranteed to American workers. Every farmer is a faggotnwho liles to pretend he pays the beaners well of course leaving out all the details and hoping you'll juat believe their "we're like a family" bullshit. They also like to leave out the rent tacket they run where the beaners end upnpaying most of that money back to the farmer so they can live in a shit house and send all thenprofit back the Mexico ensuring they can never leave or go work anywhere else. All you really have to do is ask them why the magical hardworking CITIZEN beaners don't do the farm work either? Why they don't fight for their "family" to get citizenship?

>>513086548 (OP)
Hello, mr. jew-flag.

Stop your useless propaganda, plz.

>>513086548 (OP)
free market bitch
if you can't convince people working for you
it's not people fault
it's just your wages aren't good enough for people to work for you

>>513088780
Yep. It's a race to the bottom, economically. But of course, the boomer faggot doesn't care, as long as he's got spic landscapers for his lawn, and anyone else paying for his retirement while he tells you:
>pull yourself up by your bootstraps like I did, kid
>I put myself through college on a summer job

If any generation in history could be likened to the god Saturn/Chronos, guy who eats his own children, it'd be them.

>>513088942
as a SEA curry with minimum unofficial wage of ~300 USD per month, i agree with the potato

>>513086548 (OP)
Why do they keep calling them farmers? They're not farmers, they're farm owners. Their fat asses aren't out on the fields working the land. That's why they hire Paco. Because these "farmers" don't want to do the job they want others to do

>>513086548 (OP)
Translation from hebrew to English:
>American workers expect me to pay them

>>513086548 (OP)
Never believe a boomer, that fat fuck is so full of shit he's about to pop.

>>513088963
The entire pension scam the entire real estate scam it's all fucked but they don't care to actually fix the problem instead rather want to import the entire third world to sustain the system another few decades until they die.
The worst I saw yet is reverse mortgages leaving nothing for the next generation so they can enjoy some more boomer cruises and waste the money until they die.
The older I become the more I'm in favour of some communist type revolution. The shit system we have now is clearly a failure.

>>513088760
That's true of Mexicans, too.

>>513086548 (OP)
tranlations i don't want to pay employees i want slaves.

>>513086548 (OP)
whycome you need slave labor for farming when you're le hecking disruptive tech and innovashun capital of the world? automate it.

>>513089636
> communist
that kind of collateral damage is not necessary when the parasite has so many objective identifying characteristics.

>>513086548 (OP)
sucks to suck, damn bitch farmers.
shouldnt of tried replacing us in the first place then and instead should've worked to make us into good and ample workers.
if it all collapses without foreign workers, then good, let it.

>>513090107
You can remove the Jews all you want it won't fix the fundamental problems of the system.
Something radically different must come.

>>513090236
Bud, removing the jews, also has a connotation of removing their economic system. A commie revolution doesn't help you, if your FIAT money is still issued by kikes.

>>513086548 (OP)
If you don't invest in giving kids out of highschool jobs you aren't going to get any workers.

How many Alabama farms went to local schools to higher young fit kids?

>>513090236
>You can remove the Jews all you want it won't fix the fundamental problems of the system.
Absolutely wrong. Pointing out that there are bad actors inherently in any White society is not interesting. Without the selection, organisation, financing, media support, and elevation to positions of power by jews, their individual selfish impacts on society would be negligible or even none, because an ideal society would identify them and brutally discriminate against them. The horror that we see around us is only possible because it is designed and managed by jews. The only reason you think otherwise is because you have been brainwashed the most severely by them.

>>513090344
We all see how boomers behave being happy to fuck the next generation just to get some gains.

>>513086548 (OP)
This is the one thing that throws the whole jewish greed thing under the buss. All my lived experience, the most greedy slimy fucks are other members of the community. They will try to scam and tell you it's for your benefit. Had two estonians like that recently. Absolutely vile behavior. Go to any local mom and pops shop and see if they don't have prices higher than anywhere else. It's a known thing.

That said I still think jews have an ingroup thing going on, but contrary to stereotypes, it's about power not shekels. We're the ones obessing over shekels, are we not? The eggs prices, house prices, energy. Ever tried buying a used car? And then we pretend like it's the other guys. I hate people who preach one thing but practice another.

Look at this "one of us" farmers. He will not budge a single shekel. He probably drives a really nice truck. Has a nice big home. A lot of land and machinery. Can't spare you an extra dollar though. No that's too much. I hope Trump blackpilled at least some people.

>>513090453
Back then when monarchy ruled us and casually put the Jews in their place should have been a paradise for everyone then right?... back then we had literal children working in coal mines for 12 hours a day while today you can be a neet and still enjoy high standards of loving.
It's not always Jews at least not alone.

>>513086548 (OP)
>hick retard farmer "ya done took all muh slaves"
>"youre saying you had slaves?"
>hick "NOOOOO, I means I'ms a sayin' ya done took muh.., hard werkers away and the local folk bes too laz-"
>"so you should be in jail, for slavery, you had slaves"
>hick "NOW WAIT A COTTON PICKIN MINUTE LET ME GO, I DINDU DO NUFFIN IMMA HUMBLE FARMER!"

>>513086548 (OP)
Generations of farmers have built an industry dependent on slave wage labor. Southern democrats were saying the same thing when the northern republicans were threatening to take away their slaves. Whitey just wasn't built to pick cotton. Then the AutoNig 9000 (picrel) was invented and they STFU real quick.

Take away their tomato pickers and someone will invent the TurboPedro v1.0 within a year.

>>513091611
I hate john deer so god damn much

>>513091611
Chyna and the japs already have various machines for basically everything farm related, but Jorge was always cheaper.

Every enterpreneur and farmer I have met was the biggest antiwhite jew I know.
The shit they say about their fellow countrymen would make a blackrock ceo blush.
>Waah waah I cant find a guy to carry cement blocks for less than minimum wage waah waah all these regulations I can barely get by
>I LITERALLY PUT FOOD ON YOUR TABLE YOU MUST WORSHIP ME GOY I WILL LITERALLY GO BANKRUPT AND YOU WILL ALL DIE!!!
>By the wanna my new G-Wagon? It’s electric

>>513091611
tammy wynnette picked cotton
when she was a child
she didnt try to support a family on it
because expecting adults to be happy trying to make a living off of that, would I dont know, be completely fucking retarded

>>513091659
Nothing beats Fendt, it's the Mercedes in the tractor world and for Drescher Claas is much better too.

>>513086660
Especially (You)

>>513090692
most will ignore you
they dont like what they see in the mirror

>>513091859
This has the added benefit of getting Americans to start families and produce their own generational workforce. Shit like farm labor and customer-facing service are not and should not be for supporting a family. They should be part time jobs from high school through college at most and should motivate people to seek professional development and be something better. Making it a lifetime career in these jobs is the mark of a loser.

>>513086548 (OP)
ah, this isn't like 20 years ago. most migrants aren't coming here to work anymore. they're here to collect payments from blue states. a hard working migrant can't be found after 2021.

>>513092703
field work is for children
I picked veggies and fruit before I was legal to work
my mom and her sister picked strawberries when they were in middleschool
anyone old enough to flip burgers or work at wallyworld would just do that

>>513087407
My neighbor farmer sold out to a city trash developer and now he's being punished by humiliation as that city slicker grows far superior, and less chemically treated corn than that boomerX retard ever did. Now he sits on his measly 110 acres and his $800k cut and seeeeethes at that city slicker. It's the small victories fren.

>>513086548 (OP)
The honest answer no one wants to hear is that America is infact overpopulated, especially the south where the naturally malarial environment should keep the population low but dumb inbred hicks had to get theirs and import a billion niggers so they could sip ice tea and sweat their asses off in this pseudo jungle

>>513087625
Not really, the population should be roughly half what it is now. The way of the old yeoman farmer could make a comeback in the future but it'll require the halving of Americas fatass population.

>>513086548 (OP)
>Farmers
Bullshit. They mean faggots like Bill Gates that wanna buyout farms from families and import a bunch of brown people to work as slaves.
Fuck that.

>>513088277
>There are more reasons in heaven and earth to hate Boomers than are dreamt of in your philosophy, Horatio.

>>513088173
We used to be a nation of yeoman farmers (except the south which is a shithole and always has been) and we grew our own food and worked our own land. Boomers and kikes have strategically destroyed all this to erode our freedoms.

>>513086548 (OP)
If one American can't do the work, then you need to hire two Americans, or three, or four, to replace every migrant.

Can't afford to pay your own countrymen to work? That's okay, you can just go out of business and become a farm worker yourself.

Make these farmers understand that if they don't like it, and they can't stand it, and they just refuse to hire Americans and pay them what they're worth, if that's too hard for them, then they can always turn to suicide. Those are their options.

Why are the people who hired these slaves not in prison with their lands seized?

>>513086699
I wasn't on meth so no
>>513087014
>thats because they cant go back to mexico and fuck hookers for 2 pesos
They can, they just won't do it. Americans require very little to get a passport to come here, hell you don't even need papers to rent property if the landlord is in dire need of money.
>>513087036
>Migrants can come here and jump straight onto welfare insurance
Not really, when we got sick or had an accident we would jump back and pay the care in dollars. A coworker drove back with 3 broken fingers in his main hand, it happens.

>>513086548 (OP)
What he is really saying is that Americans won’t work like slaves. Those spics will throwout their back for $5/hour.

>>513088474
>but not the ones you send here.
Cope, i was fat and got thin working there
>In America, the poor are fat and the rich are skinny. In Mexico, the poor are skinny and the rich are fat.
Ultra cope, all of us can get fat if you want to, our basic diet is very high on carbs.
Americans as always are retarded regarding their very own immigrants, at least Canadians know how the pajeets and chinks behave.

I only accept hard labors when it's paid by the town or the gov. There is no way I hurt myself just to pay the wages of masonkike pedos who make 10k a month out of taxmoney just to vote new tax laws

>>513086548 (OP)
>RAISE
>THE
>MINIMUM
>WAGE
>HA SEE AMERICANS WONT WORK FOR THE MINIMUM WAGE WE NEED MINIMUM WAGE WORKERS NOW NOW NOW
Huh?

>>513094667
which is more like $30 USD back home where theyre from

>>513086548 (OP)
>they're doing the jobs you wont do
but he just said they tried and couldnt, not wouldn't.
seems like they will do the job, they just need to be brought back into shape first.

as much as i hate wypipo, (damn gringo dogs), i wont allow lies to be used to beat them at their game.
only the truth.

the idea that whites had was good, for themselves and their communities at large, the implementation of it wasn't, it was shortsighted and lacking foresight.
if those same whites were healthier and took their time building up the strength, endurance and stamina, they could've lasted and probably would've stayed at those jobs willingly, because those jobs are addicting.
once you get the momentum going its difficult to go back into a sedentary life without actively being forced against your will (and it'd be against your will once you get used to enjoying the great outdoors)

so this isn't a lack of want or willingness, but of ability and planning.

i wont settle for lies in slandering my adversaries, only honest discourse here.

>>513086660
based

why is he not being arrested?

>>513086548 (OP)
Maybe instead of massive farms owned by corporation we can go back to having numerous homesteads and small farms scattered throughout the country

>>513097998
anon, this kingpin is the head of human trafficking empire
why is he not being jailed for 20 years?

his confession is on camera and he shows no remorse

>>513086548 (OP)
Plot-twist: the work is total slave-work, to begin with, with crazy "quotas" and is specifically designed for low-wage immigrant slaves. Remember how the people in the past thought that people would work less in the future with the advent of motorized mechanical machinery? I memberberries....

>>513086548 (OP)
I used to want to work on a farm. Had zero opportunities as a young adult - but since i could never find any jobs in farming, i went elsewhere.

Fuck off you two-faced kikes.

>>513086906
>farmers want cheap slave labour
literally this. we propped up a system of slave labor and now want americans to fill that slave labor role

>>513086660
>good everyone can starve
Stalin approves.
> it’s necessary to use some form of slave or very underpaid labor
All about the economics. Got to ask the question "Why does it COST so much to farm, and where is that money going?"
>>513097700
>but he just said they tried and couldnt, not wouldn't.
One guy, who had his slaves taken away, complains about it. Not going to make national policy based on the opinions of one guy bitching about labour politics.

>>513087243
>>513087167
it's hilarious to see these posts of these dumb faggots who just think you can just jimmy neutron a fucking machine to pick food when americans are overly autistic about the aesthetics of food, a machine cannot separate a bruised fruit/vegetable from normal produce. But retarded faggots working at 7/11 are going to tell me to JUST AUTOMATE BRO lol, this isn't even bringing up the fact that these retards also want big tech companies to basically own the food supply as well.

>>513086548 (OP)
kinda weird how white people got antyhing done before we imported the third world! thankfully we have the jewish press explain what's going on.

>>513086548 (OP)
Why does this job even needs to be done? Perhaps it should not be done like all other ILLEGAL jobs such as child prostitution/assassinations/drugs. Perhaps people making these jobs are part of the problem and this market should close down.

>>513102856
time to take everything from people who employ immigrants. cut off the incentives! and confiscate the remittances!

>>513086699
farm work is usually done from 6am till early afternoon then clockout because its too hot, if its anything outside of that you are basically being treated worse than a slave.

>>513086548 (OP)
Fuck that, they just aren’t willing to work shit conditions for shit pay. Farmers got too accustomed to having a slave caste to use and abuse at their leisure.

>$100 a day
>$2000 a month
>$24000 a year
They deserve to go out of buisness

>>513086548 (OP)
just automate that shit.
pick your own cotton cleatus.
no more niggers and slaves.

>>513086548 (OP)
>Americans want work/life balance!!!! Illegals want money that they can send back to their family so maybe one day their kids can come to America and have a work/life balance!!!

>>513086548 (OP)
Sounds like we are going to need to elect Democrats to seize the farms and operate them since repubs can't. I never heard the farmers bitching about labor under Biden.

>>513086548 (OP)
>Waaaah we can't train our workers well enough, waaaah we can't pay our workers well enough
Sounds like you're too poor and incompetent to stay in business then.

>I'M GLAD THE IMMIGRANTS ARE GONE, IT'S UNETHICAL FOR DEMOCRATS TO WANT CHEAP SLAVE LABOR FOR CHEAP PRODUCTS
>OOH, MY NEW SWEAT SHOP PRODUCED GRAPHIC CARD FROM TEMU HAS JUST ARRIVED FROM MY AMAZON DELIVERY!

>>513086548 (OP)
Democrats support slavery again? What a surprise.

>>513086548 (OP)
Nigger how did crops get picked before the spic invasion?
How did houses get built?
How did toilets get cleaned and trash get taken out?

Shut the fuck up.

>>513086548 (OP)
No, they are not desperate enough to do absolute shit-tier manual labor / life eroding jobs for shit pay.

>>513086548 (OP)
>Why won't you let us exploit foreign workers? I'm a leftist and I believe in unions and better labor conditions, but not for foreigners, they should do slave labor for slave wages!

This is what leftists sound like right now, leftists also support war.
Things are really weird, politics are weird. If you live long enough you'll notice it eventually.

>>513095955
Not anymore lol

>>513087014
Its like 1000 pesos for the cheapest so around 50euro. In the northwrn parts people make more than most European countries unironically. Germans make.what like 1600.euro a month for regulat office admin jobs? A house cleaning in ensenada starts at around 40 usd for 2 hrs of work. A house cleaner can make more than a average euro like the polish. Times are changing quick.

They're underpaid.

>>513088760
Mexicans are even fatter than Whites on average, dummy.

>>513103756
>>513103647

Look at my post >>513103380 right above yours

Mexicans picking vegetables isn't slave labor because if they didn't like it, they wouldn't do it. Meanwhile you are probably posting on smart phones made in sweat shops eating canned food that was grown in china and processed in vietnam and canned in singapore. If you buy all american made, then disregard this post

>>513086548 (OP)
Slap an ankle monitor on inmates and let them do it on a good behavior basis, and let their pay build up into a nest egg that they cash out on release to give them a little head start out of the gate.

>>513086548 (OP)
That video...one of those fat fucks was telling Americans that if they can keep up with that old spic then they too can make $70 to $100 a day. Someone should bust that pigs head open. That is absolute garbage money for dirty ass, back-breaking, no benefits whatsoever work. I hope that fucker loses his farm.

>>513086548 (OP)
I got a comfy job picking peaches in Georgia. $15/hour, apparently twice what the illegals were getting paid. If you pay a fair wage, people will do the jobs. Cope and seethe.

>>513086548 (OP)
You think people still fall for this meme?

>>513104134
Your take isn't as clever or interesting as you think it is.

>>513086548 (OP)
Alright, so hire seasonal H2 visas.
>they won't.

>>513097998
Those "small farms" are the ones who relied on mexicans, retard. Do you think your "small, artisanal, family owned and operated" can afford a $500,000 machine (which will inevitably break down halfway through the season) to pick crops?

Farming is an incredibly labor-intensive industry. We only developed machines to automate some (not all) of the labor fairly recently. Those machines are notoriously expensive, easy to break, and tend to be sold by asshole corporations like John Deere who will sue you if you try to fix the damn thing yourself.

>duh maybe we shouldn't rely on slave labor then, how about that???
Maybe you should get used to paying three times more for your produce at the supermarket than what you're paying now.

>>513090692
Ofc the reality is like that. Jews might jew but your average white practices all the sins there exists. You dont get even polite manners from whites these days. They are all trash and the "right wingers" are just asshole spergs.

>>513086655
>americans can do those jobs
no they cant spic bitch, look at the video

>>513104442
Just hire an H2 farm worker.

>>513104350
It's just as clever as it needs to be. How is dirt cheap 3rd world labor any different just because they are in america?

>>513086548 (OP)
They don't get to issue currency so they still have a long way to go to get equality. Someone should tell them. If white communities are illegal, you don't get to have stupid slaves. How about that?

>>513086548 (OP)
One of his main arguments is how the job involves a lot of bending down as if that problem wasn't fixed years ago

>>513104442
>Maybe you should get used to paying three times more for your produce at the supermarket

Fair enough, slavery it is.
We should just be honest about it.
They are serfs and can be killed for any crime, and their women are farm property.
Even get the kids in on it, let them work during the day and service the other workers at night.

A happy slave is a productive slave.

>>513104442
How does europe farm? How did america farm before the mexican picker was a common thing? The system is set up to need poor mexican immigrants but it doesnt need to be thats the point.

>>513087167
>>513087243
>>513087447
>>513087622
>>513088612

That is illegal.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/autonomous-farming-agriculture-equipment-california/3878319/

>>513086548 (OP)
>That's racist you cant call, americans fat, dumb and spoiled.
you sure showed them

>>513087721
Fucking stupid kiwi cunt

>>513088474
Its fucking field work. Literal peasants did it.
Its about the money dipshit, it always has been

>>513086655
Nah... physical labor isn't for everyone, trust me I've seen it first hand many times. It's that simple. Especially when you add in the out doors and heat aspect of it all.
Even if they did pay above minimum wage they'd still have hard time finding workers.

>>513086548 (OP)
no way I'm gonna bend down and pick fruit
any mexican can do that

>>513086548 (OP)
The other day I saw Hispanic laborers replacing my neighbors roof. It was sunny, over 80 degrees out, and they were wearing jeans and big cotton hoodies with the hoods up. Do these people not sweat?

>>513104087
then why cant you crakrs do the job?

>>513104860
As a percentage how much of the population do you believe would be suited?

>>513086548 (OP)
You know it’s bad when farmers want white genocide

>>513086655
this

>>513104640
Because purchasing power is different in those countries, Chinese sweatshop workers actually make a decent living compared to Mexican slave labourers working in the US.

>>513086666
>if course methworkers are bedduhr than ubber worgers
fuckin checked

>>513104913
>Do these people not sweat?
They do but you absolutely want full coverage when roofing. There's no fun in getting cut up on a roof. Metals roofs are the worst for it for obvious reasons.

>>513086906
/thread

>>513086548 (OP)
White people are pathetic lazy useless animals. PoC are useful gods.

>>513104987
The real job the farmers are complaining about americans not doing is the shifts in the rape shed the migrants are used to.

Money does not make food.
Labor, Seeds, Land, Air, Sun, and Water make food— we have ALL of these things WITHOUT fucking money. If you remove JUST ONE of these items, YOU WILL NOT HAVE FUCKING FOOD.
MONEY DOES NOTHING BUT ACT AS A QUANTIFIER FOR FUCKING TRADE.
We cannot have unearned income AT THE EXPENSE OF earned income. Finance must be the servant of production, not its master.

And yes, everyone needs to be more fit and less lazy.

>>513086548 (OP)
and what was the pay?

>>513086655
/thread

>>513104952
Here in Canada about 20% of the workforce are in the trades, less than 2% of the workforce was in agriculture, and most of that is migrant work.
So not a whole lot...

>>513104536
Many farms already do. Some don't have the luxury of waiting 60 days and sponsoring someone to fly here.

>>513104718
>How does europe farm?
Migrant laborers. Either from Eastern Europe or from Africa.
>How did america farm before the mexican picker was a common thing?
With asian immigrants and blacks who were basically still slaves.

>>513104534
>Americans cant farm
Do shitskins really? Whom do you think grew their food before mass migration?

>>513086548 (OP)
1. Stop farming subsidies.
2. Food prices go up.
3. Simultaneously stop food stamps.
4. Lazy fuckers suddenly willing to work.
5. Labor prices go down.
6. Slaves go back to the fields.
7. Profit.

>>513105231
So you're saying about 20%

So with only 1.5% of Americans working in Agriculture what is stopping better opportunities from incentivizing more people to work it?

>>513105274
>Some don't have the luxury of waiting 60 days and sponsoring someone to fly here.
If they can't follow the law they can get fucked.

>>513105370
The US is an illegal immigrant exploitation factory, they changed out constitution to make it like this. We basically don't have a country. They wont incentivize hiring locals because they have an easily accessible pool of foreign workers which will vote democrat

It all comes down to low brith rates well below replacement level, America like everywhere else in the west isn’t producing enough people to do all these different jobs so they import them, you have two solutions, every man and woman gets married and has at least 3 kids or you dump capitalism and find an alternative system that isn’t based on business and profit, being honest we all know neither of those things are going to happen

>>513086548 (OP)
Fuck off, jewboy!

>>513086548 (OP)
dumbo is himself not financially or patriotically fit enough to offer those jobs.
If he cannot survive without breaking the law, he deserves to go bankrupt and be sued for delaying of bankruptcy.

>>513086548 (OP)
sounds like the argument of a neocon boomer who sudenly found himself forced to pay living wages to national workers who know the language enough to request protection from the law

>>513087447
You say this but a lot of the farms here in dover,fl are starting to Automate Because all of the hispanic workers were either deported or have fleed Every time I'm passing through the farmer's fields. It's these big a** machines doing all the work now only like 1 or 2 people out there.

>>513105152
it is true
i work in property maintenance/construction
farm labor is seasonal and low paying $15/hr
but there are high-end gardeners that do maintain large gardens and are out there in the heat, but they make $40-$50/hour and take care of the whole garden all year
i also live in a wealthy state, so these wages are probably higher than the average state
there are landscapers that make $70,000/year and a full-tenured professor, head of an entire department (in a hard science field) makes about $90,000/yr in my state, not much of a difference for the big difference in the level of complexity
money is almost no longer indicative of skill, its value has been destroyed in the US thanks to QE and egregious market rigging
it has been mostly given to people producing nothing since 2008

>>513088360
>graph
I agree with the trend, but the graph is BS: They are comparing the top 350 CEOs with the average worker.
Either do top vs. top or average vs. average.

>>513088360
lol

>>513105508
These jobs were taken from americans, these were all once seasonal jobs carried out by local whites and blacks. This changed when the industrialists entered California and started incentivizing illegal immigration in order to get cheap labor like from opium addicted coolies

I heard people not local tend to not drink the tap water

>>513105411
I mean, the farmers that tend to operate at a seasonal break-even point and relied on mexican laborers also voted overwhelmingly for Trump and the GOP, so I'm not exactly shedding too many tears over what's happening to them. They fucked around, now they're finding out.

>>513105305
>before mass migration
Nigger where do you think all the people in America came from? The only difference between then and now is that we exploit poor spics instead of poor Irish

>>513105836
Mass migration for cheap labor was always illegal. The US had naturalization checklists that italians jews and spics did not meet up until the 60's when they changed citizenship laws.

So technically there's a large swath of italians, jews and spics in the US that are technically illegal

>>513086548 (OP)
No. No. No.
From the farm fields, to the computer lab, it is entirely a matter of financial compensation.
If 100,000 H1Bs are paid $50,000 less than what that role should pay (in the free market) - that is 5 Billion American in cost savings by being anti-nationalist.
Similarly, if 100,000 migrant workers are pay 1/4 of what that work would pay workers in the free market, that is similarly billions in cost savings.
Factory farm products are too cheap, and propped up by traitorous slave labor.
People should buy from local farms. There is generational resilience in that.
Also, Hitler did nothing wrong, and Christ Jesus is the Lord of Glory and the Savior of the entire world, for all who believe and are saved.

>>513087447
10 years ago if you told people you could replace sprayers with drones you would have been laughed at. Now I have a friend that does that as his job

>>513086548 (OP)
Oh no! The farmer will have to lease a tractor! He won't get his brand new f-350 this year!

>>513106062
Why would you replace the automated part that is cheap and work?

>>513105370
No, 20% of the work force work in actual trades, career driven trades jobs, like welders, plumbers, HVAC techs, etc.
About 2% work in agriculture, and of that 2% I'd say a good chunk are farm hands, students, migrant workers, the odd minimalist idiot, etc.

The thing about farm work is that it's not a career, it's seasonal work, and just a 'job', and it's also a work / lifestyle, and most of the migrant workers like that lifestyle. They like how they can juat show up for six months of the year, make decent money and go back home and do whatever they do for the rest of the year in Jamaica or whatever.

>>513104640
It's not any different. Both are wrong, two wrongs don't make a right bucko

>>513106174
The only reason spics get jobs in agriculture is because whatever they're doing can't be done by a robot efficiently yet, this is why they pick strawberries because there's no strawberry picking machine

Most spics get hired into conveyor belt type jobs where not falling asleep and getting torn apart by the conveyor is the entire job

>>513106043
>People should buy from local farms. There is generational resilience in that.
this
and have multigenerational homes, too, which have been shamed (oh, you live with your parents...)

multigenerational properties greatly benefit families and communities
>can take care of elderly
>grandparents can babysit
>pay only taxes, as house is already owned
>put down roots in a community
>keep wealth in the family
>higher security

>>513086655
Even the browns are questioning jew lies lmao

>>513106278
Sounds better than anon who clicks for a living

if they take away all welfare it would save the country 2-3 trilion a year and they would go work those jobs.

I've picked vegetables and worked in fields and orchards, you pussies.

i am going to say that most of the spanish minorities in construction/farming I have met can't even read THEIR OWN language, this is why they can't learn english, either
many are illiterate and can only read pictures
one funny thing i noticed is some of them say they don't speak english, then when i begin to speak spanish, they switch immediately to perfect english
this has happened to me 4 or 5 times in the last decade, idk why this is, it is perplexing

>>513106448
i don't know I've only worked at white hiring conveyor jobs and they give all the hard work to the newest person until they quit while everybody else chills out. Chills out is probably the wrong way to put it because it was always over 100 degrees

>>513106535
>take away all welfare it would save the country 2-3 trilion a year
this is fucking true
and if you count the 'welfare rich' (pic rel), we would save about $4T total

People here in Georgia have pecan orchards where they make extra money harvesting pecans while in season. Some pay people (who are white, brown, and black) to come harvest them and gives them half the proceeds.

None of you know jack shit about anything rural. Many big farms sponsor migrant workers too if they want to become citizens and work for them.

>>513106828
Probably because when normal peopel get mad about it we're told it's out of out hands

I mean they did basically illegally alter US law to sallow spics to stay in the US

>>513086548 (OP)
Oh no folks have to carry their own weight.

>>513086548 (OP)
Seriously? This morbidly obese baron harkonnen looking motherfucker is complaining that americans aren't physically fit enough?
>Keith Smith: farmer
Keith Smith: landlord+welfare queen

>>513106914
Keith Smith, sits on a tractor

>>513106883
yeah, cause Ronald Reagan sponsored the migrant program to give the farmers relief from political assholes who just pile more charges on farmers.

what the scumbags in power today don't want to hear is that the community looks out for each other

>>513106972
>reagan
They rigged the 1960 presidential election for Kennedy to get him to pass civil rights and in civil rights was an illegal alteration to US immigration law which applied an already illegal law illegally to illegals in order to give them amnesty

>>513106209
>The thing about farm work is that it's not a career, it's seasonal work, and just a 'job', and it's also a work / lifestyle, and most of the migrant workers like that lifestyle. They like how they can juat show up for six months of the year
That's a bit different than your original argument. It sounds like the financial insecurity of farm work is what drives people not to work it whilst still being willing to work under strenuous circumstances.

>>513086655
everyone in tropical, subtropical, and desert climates should be niggers and brown. wypipo belong near the poles.

Just like the crops rotting in the field with no one to harvest them. Its all lies. Farmers hire guys who sub contract illegals. Those illegals show up and pay the farmer for room and board. The farmer does not want to hire americans. If I was to round up americans and put them on a bus and bring them to the farmer and then the people on the bus pay to stay on the farm. Sure, the farmer will hire them. But the idea that no one can do the work or shows up is bullshit. People do the work, he is just mad he had to actually pay them and pay taxes. Most likely still had illegals and just making up shit like they always do.

>>513091659
John Queer.

>>513088063
>$70 to $100 a day?
Granted it's difficult to make out his mulato-americano accent but it sounds like he's saying
>if you work hard and keep at it you COULD be making that
Implying that no, he's not actually paying them 70$ a day, but even less while promising a future raise to 70$/day in an indeterminate amount of time.
Fuck all these animals are fatter than the lifestock on their little government-sponsored fief.

>>513086548 (OP)
Counterpoint: Boomers are too physically and mentally UNFIT to own assets.

>>513086655
lol, enjoy paying 10 dollars for an apple
it's cheap in america because you use slave labor for everything.

>>513088474
>In Mexico, the poor are skinny and the rich are fat.
75% of mexico is obese retard

>>513107336
mexico is very rich ese

>>513086548 (OP)
Didn't happen. Gay and faggit. kys kike

>>513107313
How does everyone miss this point. Government subsidy and slave labor are why this shit gets done, now people are addicted to low prices AND EBT cards and ..........jews have successfully financially captured the system from dirt to processing facility to distribution to market to consumer. Masterful and dastardly.

>>513105321

> Replace all the mud monkeys. http://octinion.com/strawberry-picker

Heaven on earth.

>>513107156
Most educated people can't handle the thought of just working a job, they always want more in some way.
Farm hands live on the farm, they eat, sleep there, socialize there, work from sun up to sun down.
Westerners like a job that has work - life balance, where you wake up in your dwelling, go to work clock in, and clock out after 8hrs, and go home to consume goyslop and goytube.
The only solution I can thin of to give incentive for citizens to work on a farm is if the government gets involved and drafts up plans like the new deal, give workers an incentive, because farmers can't. Maybe a union can be settup and workers can be allocated to different spots at different harvesting times, but then that just limits how many people would be willing to do that sort of job, who wants to work on one farm for two weeks, get laid off, and then go work at another for a month, and repeat.

>>513086548 (OP)
>americans aren't physically capable to farm!
Says morbidly obese alcoholic american farmer

>>513107534
>he hasn't been mastering agriculture to get as much as he can for free

>>513107105
You'll have to post where it says this. I won't take your word for it since I know better.

>>513107313
Prices go up with the wages, what's the problem?

>>513086548 (OP)
>Americans too physically and mentally UNFIT to replace migrants

1pbtid

>>513107870
the reason the left is freaking out about the 14th amendment is because the 14th amendment was never legally ratified. Even still, the 14th amendment was passed so that the South couldn't mass deport or re-enslave blacks after the Civil War, because Blacks legally weren't citizens in the US. Technically since the 14th amendment is invalid blacks aren't US citizens either. But the main point is that the 14th amendment is what's used to give brown illegals amnesty which was started in 1964

Nearly every American country has birthright citizenship, and this is because natives and mestizos are basically illegals that flood into whatever country is paying better. In the US however birthright citizenship for mestizos and indios is illegal, the right was given to black american slaves alone (and it was never ratified).

The US imported like 3.6% of niggers from africa

>>513086548 (OP)
There are different types of "farmers". People combine ranchers and farmers into one category and like to romanticize the "I wake up at 3am lower your tone when speaking with me" that's usually true with animal rearing. However, the goy bean, corn, fruit farmers are the biggest coddled dipshit princesses on planet earth who work 3 months a year and sit on their fat fucking asses comparing their new GMC trucks at the town watering hole the other 9.

>>513107313
>>513107534
So you're telling me the Confederacy was right?

>>513108157
Still can show proof, huh?

>>513108157
>14th amendment was never legally ratified
Someone check this out.

I changed my mind on immigrants when I started renovating a house. Relatively unskilled tradesmen wanted 100 sometimes 200 euros an hour for shoddy work.

Immigrants took regular wages and did good work.

>no no no! Pay the white man 200 euros and hour!

I don't have it to give them.

>>513108280
Proof that the 14th amendment was never legally ratified? It didn't get enough states
https://youtu.be/ypLcuOF138c

>>513108369
It would matter if the constitution was still a valid document that was abided by and our government was legitimate

>>513086655
Based Mexibro knows what's up
>>513107313
>Brazilian
>Complaining about slave labor in other countries
Lol, okay buddy

>>513086548 (OP)
This is a lie.
Time for a reality check.
The market will put young Americans to work.
The pendulum has swung.
The time of Strong Men has begun.

>>513108516
The current government bases its entire legitimacy off of that document, so if the law that gives them the most power was never properly ratified...

>>513108369
You can''t take a screenschot of a legal document and gave me a conspiracy video?

Typical 4chan.

>>513108658
Go to wikipedia, look up the ratification of the 14th amendment, read how many states it takes to ratify a constitutional amendment, then count how many states ratified the constitution and how many pulled out of ratification

Keep in mind the south was under military dictatorship and they still couldn't get the 14th amendment passed to give blacks citizenship

>>513108790
Now look up Seward essentially going "ah well we didn't get enough states but lets make it law anyway"

>>513108747
It was ratified by the senate in 1868...

>>513086548 (OP)


Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.

>>513108863
Can you ratify a constitutional amendment without state approval? Apparently you can in the US

>>513086548 (OP)
I worked on a farm in high school. They use to hire local kids and ylung adults. They had a few adults to keep everyone else in line. Maybe if they paid better they could still hire white people.

>>513108851
Anon if the SENATE passed the amendment that means majority of the states agreed to pass ratify it.
If a state voted against then they go fuck themselves, too bad. As miggers like to say
>you lost.

>>513108851
Those states had left the Union. Pretty sure they lost their representation in the US Congress. That's why the seceding decision was utter bullshit.

>>513108605
>The current government bases its entire legitimacy off of that document
Lol no, power doesn't give a shit about some gay document. Just look at the COVID-19 fiasco and the 2020 election, they have no fealty to that document.

>>513108960
>if the senate passes a law it means its legal
does it?

>>513109046
Yes

>>513109063
So if congress voted to kill white people that would be legal because congress did it

>>513086655
That's true and they shouldn't have to. It's hard, backbreaking labor. If you need slaves to accomplish that then maybe you're not the good guy. Most farm shit is automated anyway. Every summer we have literal children taking jobs detassling corn and they don't seem to mind it. This retard is lying through his picket fence teeth.

>>513086655
Mericans can and will do this work.
We’ve done it before and
We, will do it again.
Do make such drama out simple employment.
Young men will find summer farm work.
Some will not like it.
Others will want this life.
The opportunity has presented itself.

>>513109106
Geez what a stretch. Congress is peopled with white people. You're losing the argument profoundly.

>>513107663
sound like good ideas
or have people grow their own food
have kits for a year's worth of food
make plots and little houses
we could back treasury-issued US Notes with land and commodities
we are going to fucking nationalize the Fed, that will free up some land lol
pic definitely related the broke twelve regional Fed franchises are going the way of the woolly mammoth tick fucking tock

>>513109201
No? If the senate amended the constitution without the proper amount of states that's breaking the law, the law of the land the constitution.

Meaning what they passed is invalid

>>513086548 (OP)
I don't believe it. Plenty of Americans will take those jobs and do well at them. Especially now that AI will destroy white collar and pink collar jobs.

Also, get rid of the drug problem, build up camps, enslave all those homeless shits who can't get their shit together & throw them on the farms.

>>513109106
Congress and the senate aren't the same thing anon... if the senate wanted to ratify an amendment to kill white poeple then it would be a constitutional right to do so.

The constitution is the ultimate law of the land, naturalized rights for everyone, and supercedes state laws pretty much.

>>513109285
Those states seceded from the government and were in the process of returning because they started a bullshit war and lost. That was a stupid decision. They had to come back to the US with their tail between their legs.

So if they lost the ability to ratify an amendment in a government they chose to leave, tough titties.

>>513108790
the 14th amendment did more than that
just saying

>>513109424
>if the senate wanted to ratify an amendment to kill white poeple then it would be a constitutional right to do so
say that to my face you failed american

>>513109424
>The constitution is the ultimate law of the land, naturalized rights for everyone, and supercedes state laws pretty much.

This

>>513109461
They used southern states to ratify the 14th amendment, it was actually northern states that didn't want to give blacks citizenship

what a great thread
so many good threads lately
good day anons

>>513109465
AGAIN

You secede and start a civil war - insurrection and you get into debt, the US government is NOT responsible to cover those debts incurred by the seceding states.

>>513102094
>nigga who has never looked up "computer vision" in his entire life

>>513086805
Whoa there partner. We haven’t needed mechanized food growth since the green revolution. Since then, we have so much food the hardest part is growing food people will actually pay good money for. That means water from the Great Lakes, spilled on prime petro-fertilizer enriched Nee Mexico soil while Paco works for $5/day to pick heirloom tomato’s because those are popular in China this time of year

>>513109530
>it was actually northern states that didn't want to give blacks citizenship
Feel free to list them

>>513086655
As a White mutt who busts ass for $20 an hour, I agree.
Of course, I bust ass at 8000 feet elevation, where mornings are wonderfully cool even in midsummer. Working 8 hours in a humid 94 F Alabama summer day sucks balls.
>>513086548 (OP)
More and more Americans turn their nose up at manual labor. They only want to do easy, low-effort jobs. That's why the nation that our grandparents built is falling apart and going to shit.

>>513109615
read
>>513109530
you illiterate spic

Ohio and new jersey withdrew their ratification and they ratified it anyway

>>513109693
oh also Oregon

The north HATED niggers

>>513109693
Whatever Junior

>>513086548 (OP)

That's not my problem Mr Fat Boomer, it's your problem. Find a way to get legal US citizen employees to work for you or admit failure, go out of business, and make way for a more efficient competitor. Big Business is not entitled to slave labor

>>513086548 (OP)
>Farmers: Americans too physically and mentally UNFIT to replace migrants

t.farmer

>>513109736
Brown 80 IQ goblin

>>513109725
Oregon still hates niggers lol

>>513109650
I think they turn their nose mostly at the poorly paid part

>>513109769
Uh huh sure

>>513102094
Go sort the fruit faggot or STFU

>>513109785
yes yes, they did not forget their legacy
https://youtu.be/aXfuQqkwa5I

>>513087721
Could be worse
Could have to listen to your white trash neighbour that lives directly beneath you in your nice neighbourhood condo yelling at her prison boyfriend over the phone OUTSIDE MY DAMN WINDOW every fucking night and day

>>513109741
Which US citizen employees?
Go to Thailand and you see women laboring in the fields all over the countryside. Here in muttland, white women are too fat and lazy. They'd rather sit in the A/C cashing out their OnlyFans subscriptions.

>>513109866
Or the white trash who lets their pitbull mix harass passersby on the street, and then when you chase it off they run out yelling abuse and insults at you
>muh heckin precious pupperino, how dare you!

>>513086548 (OP)
>hire illegals
>make them work for whatever the fuck you want for however long the fuck you want them to work
>make them work a very hyper-optimized way that exploits this manner of servantcy
>illegals work it unquestioningly
>hire legal citizens
>can't make them work 12 hour days. have to give them legally afforded breaks.
>forced to haggle a pay rate that cuts deep into your pockets. you're unwilling to cede ground because it means you can't live luxuriously by paying a fair wage
>make excuses that they aren't willing to work

>>513109615
or it could be construed as 'debt incurred under duress' is illegal, like pic rel for instance
like to the fucking tune of $2B being fucking robbed blind by the Fed every fucking week

and look in pic rel how the NYFed squeezes the citizens and their OWN FUCKING currency out of the picture so they can pay out IORB to Fed member bank owners and RRP to NYFed-ilk MMFs in the top half of the image

>>513110118
Duress?

lol. You're trying Junior but you're not getting anywhere.

>>513109486
Go make some more mullatos Jefferson.

>>513110094
>>illegals work it unquestioningly
this is what people don't understand, the illegals quit after two weeks and escape into the interior of the US to go live with other escaped illegals in an apartment where there's 30 of them. This is why there's so many in the country

They don't work for low wages willingly, there's just a 500% turnover rate and they can keep grabbing shitskins off the fense at the border

these industries deserve to dry up and blow away

>>513086906
As someone who lives somewhere surrounded by farmland for hundreds of miles. I don't think I've ever seen or knew any farmer who wasn't very well off.

>>513090236
>You can remove the Jews all you want it won't fix the fundamental problems of the system
You need to remove them to be able to change the system, though. Or really make any policy at all that isn't jewish approved.

>>513086548 (OP)
>Farmers:

>>513110173
lol
it was worth a shot
we're going to have to go the direct route
pic rel

>>513110317
There are huge plastic trash piles in both oceans.

>>513110355
Rockefellers in 1912 at Jekyll Island

Connect the dots.

>>513110421
Mostly from China and India. Although Trump is trying his best to break those records during his term.

>>513086548 (OP)
if the entire american agriculture industry is unsustainable without mexican labor then it should not exist. death to these jew boomer tyrants

this will work, too

>>513103380
Is there another way to get a graphics card?

>>513110476
do you think you're schooling me on the Fed?
kek
i do get schooled sometimes
pic rel is also an option

>>513109238
I mean, that would make sense in like 1790s anon, but not in todays world.
Although I agree that more needs to be done to the agriculture sector, especially putting American workers and farmers first somehow.

>>513086548 (OP)
Mr. Smith is clearly physically or mentally unfit to provide adequate working conditions and pay

>>513110633
Debt induced slavery

>>513110684
oh
i do like canada's post office banking idea

the people already have the power to stop any tyranny by SIMPLY USING CASH AND LEAVING YOUR PHONE AT HOME sometimes
these two simple things destroy these type of surveillance plans
you already have the fucking power
it is YOU that chooses to continue using the grid to your own detriment
you already have the power right now
you have agency still
they just need your consent to implement it wholly, then having agency won't even matter

the current tech trend is for citizens to not hold or own information or organize it or remember it
they also do not store it on their own computers, but in a foreign cloud that tracks all changes in real time
they only have instantaneous ACCESS to information
people are not being conditioned to retain info or organize it for themselves

tptb are now waiting for anyone with a high amount of intellect and knowledge to die off, then they will just be left with the malleable, dumbed-down 'instantaneous access' population that can't put two and two together

USE FUCKING CASH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN
NEVER USE YOUR PHONE TO PAY

A NATION'S FIAT IS THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN FUCKING HANDS
and this is why the Fed seeks to even abolish paper Federal Reserve Notes (PICREL), b/c fiat paper mostly SERVES THE FUCKING CITIZEN:

fiat is the common national bond and cooperation of the value of one's labor
if this fiat is issued by a private, debt-based central bank, then only the central bank profits from the labor of the citizens, not the treasury or the citizens

>>513110633
Oh I'm not trying to be a bully about discussion or information.

>>513110780
you would think the FBI would want to know the bankrupt (~$136B in the hole now) NYFed is only operating on $12B in working capital (i know, even though they're broke they somehow magically still have capital, lol, Fed Reserve special accounting)

you would think the FBI would want to know that the NYFed's member banks only have $12B of operating capital and $10fuckingtrillion in IOUs
lol

>>513111055
>(i know, even though they're broke they somehow magically still have capital, lol, Fed Reserve special accounting)
<<<---kek

>>513108219
>However, the goy bean, corn, fruit farmers are the biggest coddled dipshit princesses on planet earth who work 3 months a year and sit on their fat fucking asses comparing their new GMC trucks at the town watering hole the other 9.

Sounds pretty great, where do I sign up

>>513110884
you were right it was a stretch, good day anon, see you next time

A reminder, Federal Reserve Notes are what are being issued to worthless oblivion and
>the US dollar is a fucking UNIT

We need to AGAIN issue debt-free, Treasury-issued US Notes like we did before (and during) the bloodsucking, obsolete Federal Reserve. We need to AGAIN issue debt-free US Notes that are pegged to a basket of commonly-used weighted commodities, distributed by a series of state banks.

We can:
1 nationalize Fed banks
OR
2 dissolve Fed and have a series of state banks
OR
3 issue US Notes simultaneously AGAIN and eventually recycle worthless Federal Reserve Notes out of circulation
OR
4 YOU CAN RIGHT NOW: use cash/barter/stack/use credit unions/use cold wallets, these five things IMMEDIATELY transfer power directly to the people

USE CASH, NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN, cash IMMEDIATELY puts the power in the hands of the people.

Real paper cash:
>is permissionless
>is private
>is anonymous
>has no transaction fees
>works in power outages
>doesn’t need the internet
>don't need to be a coder to use it
>doesn't depend on another party having a device
>everyone knows exactly how much they have
>has no transaction limits or thresholds for reporting
>money laundering is harder with physical cash, due to transport
>is inclusive, it does not see race
>is harder to use in ransoms
>can’t be hacked
>don’t need to remember a password to use it
>IS the ultimate in payment platforms
>using cash helps people to save money and budget
>puts the power directly in the hands of the people
>keeps the currency near the REAL goods and services
>less paperwork
>is face to face, not face to screen
>makes government theft harder
>using cash forces the debt-based Federal Reserve to serve the citizens

Boycott businesses that do not take cash.
NEVER USE YOUR PHONE TO PAY.
Barter is the real torpedo to these fucking clowns.

the Fed is about to be fired lol and fucking nationalized

>fat plantation owner claims he needs his slaves because he doesn't want to pay white people to pick his cotton
THE MORE THINGS CHANGE THE MORE THEY STAY THE SAME THE MORE THINGS CHANGE THE MORE THEY STAY THE SAME THE MORE THINGS CHANGE THE MORE THEY STAY THE SAME THE MORE THINGS CHANGE THE MORE THEY STAY THE SAME

>>513086660
Starting with the illegals.

>>513109650
That will change.
Young men will see the opportunity in doing manual labor, maybe not for a lifetime, possibly for a couple of seasons.
Others will take to working and tilling the soil to grow crops.
The time of young strong men has begun.

>>513086548 (OP)
>Farmers:

<<<---interest fucking paid so far this FY year 2025 so far and we still have until the end of sept
now we are at a trillion paid to borrow a private, debt-based fucking currency from the broke Fed

>>513111512
>Others will take to working and tilling the soil to grow crops.
>The time of young strong men has begun.
this is optimistic and good to hear

>>513109785
Oregon is fuckin full of nigger lovers, go to Newport, Portland, Medford, Bend, etc.

>>513086548 (OP)
That's what slavers said before the civil war.

I live in rural AL and am unemployed. These jobs do not exist. There are exactly 0 job listings or any evidence of a farm seeking workers. I would gladly do this job for pretty cheap just to get some passive exercise. But nobody is hiring for this job.

>>513111565
The future.

>>513090692
>>513104489

The reason why I still browse /pol/ is for the realest of real posts like this.

>This is the one thing that throws the whole jewish greed thing under the buss. All my lived experience, the most greedy slimy fucks are other members of the community.

That is why A LOT of people prefer to live in the city over the rural countryside. Yeah the city has a lot of problems but in the end of the day you have some level of freedom of association and choice with who you get to interact with but meanwhile in the countryside you are not only stuck with but forced to interact with some of the slimmest motherfuckers in the world. People on this board have some delusional and idyllic view of the country but it is a dire place that lacks opportunity and resources all while you are forced to play Machiavellian social games with all the various sociopaths in the area where one minor fuck up means you end up getting isolated from the community forever. Fuck that.

>Look at this "one of us" farmers. He will not budge a single shekel. He probably drives a really nice truck. Has a nice big home. A lot of land and machinery. Can't spare you an extra dollar though. No that's too much. I hope Trump blackpilled at least some people.

Yeah that is why cuckservatism has zero appeal to the younger generations as it is just "fuck you, I got mine" welfare where the local petty bourgeoisie fuck their fellow man to death with them using the government to regulate their competition out of existence, hoarding resources, and all while working with the ruling technocrat lolberts to flood the country with literal slave labour.

This the best write up of these assholes:
>https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1809702396861571434.html

>>513111921
Yup. These were seasonal jobs for children and people that wanted extra money

>>513111905
>>513111288
these are also good points

ok good day anons

First:
US Gold Notes and US Silver Notes are interest-free, metals-backed, NON-fiat notes that could be issued by the US Treasury TODAY.
US Notes are interest-free, fiat notes that could be issued by the US Treasury TODAY, they can also be metals-backed and were intended to be used as a tool for the citizens to trade.
Federal Reserve Notes are DEBT-BASED, fiat notes issued out of thin air by the privately-incorporated, now-BANKRUPT Federal Reserve 12 regional franchises and are currently bankrupting the US Treasury.

All of the above are ALL DENOMINATED IN US DOLLARS (aka $US), which is a fucking UNIT.

And secondly, there are FOUR ways currency is created in the US:
1 Congressionally-approved Public Issues treasuries for deficit spending via the issuance of marketable US treasuries sold by the NYFed’s primary dealers aka Debt Held by the Public (now ~$35 T) (the interest on this is seen in right column of this pic >>513111757)
2 Intragovernmental Debt GAS securities (aka ‘Unfunded Liabilities’) that are created/issued for currency to run public agencies (over $152 T now) and ARE PURCHASED WITH YOUR PAYROLL TAXES (the interest on these is seen in left column of this pic >>513111757)
3 The commercial tier 2 depository banking sector, it makes small loans in which only the interest remains in the banking system after the loan is paid back (the principal and repayments are destroyed when the loan is repaid) —this can remain when the Fed is dissolved
4 QE, this is fucking counterfeiting by the now-insolvent NYFed's primary dealers since 2008 via IOER (now called IORB) and we pay all sorts of interest on this, increasing every day with raising rates as seen here >>513111109

The unproductive, parasitic class spear-headed by the NYFed are debauching our national currency by USING MONEY TO REPLACE ACTUAL SUCCESS.

>>513087036
whites are so dumb

>>513112261
>now ~$37* T

>>513091611
Why innovate and invest when you can just import half of the third world? Reliance on slave labour to run your country is what destroyed Rome and the British Empire in the end.

>>513111796
I worked alfalfa and cotton fields when I was teenager for two seasons. That life wasn’t for me but I learned much about soil and how to grow crops and food.
It has benefited me through the years.
And I’m grateful.