Thread 513680600

Britain is buying new air defence missile systems - but can they protect us?

>Faced with a variety of new threats, the replacement for the ageing Rapier system includes the 100kg Land Ceptor missile, carrying a 10kg warhead and able to intercept threats out to around 15 miles.

>The Ministry of Defence (MoD) has announced it will buy £118m worth of air defence missile systems for the British Army.

>But will this new purchase protect an increasingly vulnerable UK from attack, and why now?

>For more than 50 years, the British Army relied on the Rapier air defence missile system to protect deployed forces.

>In 2021, that system was replaced by Sky Sabre.

>The new system is mobile, ground-based, and designed to counter various aerial threats, including fighter aircraft, attack helicopters, drones, and guided munitions.

>It's known for its speed, accuracy, and ability to integrate with other military assets, including those of the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force (and NATO).

>What is the Land Ceptor missile, and why do we need more of them?

>Sky Sabre includes radar, command, and control capability and - most importantly - a missile to intercept incoming threats.

>The Land Ceptor missile weighs around 100kg, has a 10kg warhead, and can intercept threats out to around 15 miles (25km), making it around three times more effective than the Rapier system it replaced.

>When the MoD made the decision to replace the Rapier system, the global threat environment was very different to that experienced today.

>Since the end of the Cold War, the UK has been involved in expeditionary warfare - wars of choice - and generally against less capable adversaries.

>>513680600 (OP)
>So, although the Land Ceptor missile is very capable, defence planning assumptions (DPAs) were that they would not need to be used in a serious way, commensurate with the threat.

>However, as the Russian invasion of Ukraine has demonstrated (as has the series of Iranian attacks on Israel), significantly larger stockpiles are required against a more capable enemy.

>Is the UK vulnerable to missile attack?

>In short, yes. Although the Land Ceptor missile does provide an excellent point-defence capability, it is not an effective counter to ballistic or hypersonic missiles - the Sea Viper mounted on Royal Navy Type 45 Destroyers using the Aster 30 missile has that capability.

>In the Cold War, the UK had Bloodhound missiles deployed around the UK to provide a missile defence capability, but as the perceived risks to the UK abated following the collapse of the Soviet Union, UK missile defence fell down the priorities for the MoD.

>Although the radar based at RAF Fylingdales forms part of the Ballistic Missile Early Warning System (BMEWS), and can detect incoming threats, the UK no longer has an effective interceptor to protect critical national infrastructure.

>Instead, the UK relies on the layered defences of European allies to act as a deterrence against attack.

>In the near term, this timely order for Land Ceptor missiles doubles the British Army's tactical capability.

>However, as the conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East have demonstrated, ballistic (and increasingly hypersonic) missiles are being produced in increasing quantity - and quality.

>Without significant (and rapid) investment, this critical gap in national military capability leaves the UK vulnerable to attack.

https://news.sky.com/story/britain-is-buying-new-air-defence-missile-systems-but-can-they-protect-us-13415831

>>513680719
>Although the radar based at RAF Fylingdales forms part of the Ballistic Missile Early Warning System (BMEWS), and can detect incoming threats, the UK no longer has an effective interceptor to protect critical national infrastructure

>However, as the conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East have demonstrated, ballistic (and increasingly hypersonic) missiles are being produced in increasing quantity - and quality.

>Without significant (and rapid) investment, this critical gap in national military capability leaves the UK vulnerable to attack.

>>513680600 (OP)
The government of this country will literally do ANYTHING to take your money

>>513680600 (OP)
>Britain thinks anybody gives a shit about their fallen empire which is becoming a caliphate

>>513680853
Yes. It's a very good idea to have virtually no air defence that can defend critical infrastructure and residential areas from ballistic missile attack. We might as well just let everything be destroyed. You must be a senior MoD homeland defence planner. How do you do?

>>513681425
>Send billions to defend ukraines borders
>Ours wide open
>if you complain you're a right wing extremist
nice country

I don't have the figures but I'm guessing British industry can produce something like 1 interceptor missile per year for any of these systems. So they might provide protection for half an hour at best, then everything they're trying to protect is dead.

>>513681072
Blacks, hispanics, and trannies on the other hand - the american dream

>>513682455
A nuclear exchange is the closest we'll get to an ethnostate

>>513680804
THAAD, PAC-3 and Sky Sabre umbrella make the most sense for the UK. THAAD and PAC-3 can already network seamlessly with F-35s and E-7s.

an AEGIS Ashore sight like what the US built in Poland and Romania with SM-3s would be even better I suppose, but would still need PAC-3 and Sky sabre to spread out for lower end threats.

>>513682647
England has had niggers longer than the Americas.

the AEGIS ashore is basically just an arleigh burke destroyer built on land, with the same radar and VLS systems as the ship. That would give 360 degree of protection over the entirety of the UK against russian ballistic missiles and hypersonics via SM-3 and SM-6. Then scatter a few Patriots batteries around cities/critical military sites and sky ceptor to defend the Patriots/AEGIS ashore when they are getting saturated and run out of missiles against cruise missile spam before they can reload.

>>513683169
How about I snap your neck you yank cunt?

>>513682455
If they go Patriot they'd need to open new a Patriot production facility there like Germany is doing. The US will soon be producing about 1100 per year for their own purposes. Im not sure how many the German and Japanese factories are making or if they're all PAC-2 or PAC-3. PAC-3 is what you need to defend from higher end ballistic missiles.

>>513683309
Niggers have been in England so long that some died from bubonic plague.

josh acting the hardman ffs
i just can't be doing with this cringefest no more

morning lads, not been in for a few days
anything new?

>>513683534
Bogletto meltie

>>513681425
>Yes. It's a very good idea to have virtually no air defence that can defend critical infrastructure and residential areas from ballistic missile attack

There won't be more than a handful of missiles for them if they ever do get deployed. And they probably won't work anyway.

Every prime minster makes a decision on whether they will retaliate against a nuclear attack or not when they enter office. What do you think Starmer did? You know he would have said no...

>>513682455
>I don't have the figures but I'm guessing British industry can produce something like 1 interceptor missile per year for any of these systems

Exactly, I just made the same point.

>>513683595
Which option results in more niggers and fewer englishmen? That's what Starmer, or anyone else, would do.

>>513683363
>The US will soon be producing about 1100 per year for their own purposes

No they won't.

>>513683595
>Every prime minster makes a decision on whether they will retaliate against a nuclear attack or not when they enter office
really? you don't have a set doctrine already in place to retaliate? thats the whole point of MAD. you dont want the other side to wonder if you'll retaliate, you want them to know you will 100%.

>>513683676
>No they won't
Yes we will. This is America.

>>513683534
I'm guessing he's been larping as me and threatening people again?

>>513683755
meant for >>513683559

>>513683534
>>513683781
kill yourself

>>513683755
Some brinny is showing up on ur road to batter you at 10pm tonight

>>513683685
>really?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letters_of_last_resort

>>513684076
why what have I done now?

>>513684108
Idk

>>513680600 (OP)
You better make.more submarines, coz no AA in the world can shoot down Oreshnik. It was designed precisely for UK and France.

>>513684526
Submarines so you can have at least some chance to do some retaliating strike.

seethemongs icumen in

gigamelty

when will they learn ay
leave me alone and I'll leave you alone
don't leave me alone and I'll just shit the place up and wind you up until you spazz out or tire out and then I'll continue my day like it never happened

am getting in bed

>>513685493
you better turn up bitch

>>513685522
I literally live there you stupid cunt kek

>>513685574
point stands bitch

>>513685607
the point may stand, but you won't be

>>513685629
you better turn up bitch

>>513685493
you're a spastic tranny nonce with npd tho?

>>513685658
or what?
what you gonna do if I don't?
stupid cunt
do you even think about what you're saying before you say it

>>513685704
>already making excuses for not turning up
spineless jewish pussy

>hello joshy it's me mummy
>sorry you got nonced by my dad but it's just I dgaf about you cos you're a cunt
>ok byee p.s. can't believe you're a tranny now. weird

>>513685732
hahahaha I know your game
you're looking for an out
you're looking for anything you can misrepresent as a tell that I'm not gonna turn up
so when you don't turn up you can say
josh said he wasn't gonna turn up and I wasn't gonna travel 3hrs just to be stood up
pussy as nigga
I'm already there

>>513685869
i'm not yellowanon you fucking retard

>>513685906
HAHAHAHAHA
I knew you were gonna say that

>>513685950
of course you knew, because you knew I'm not him.
loser.

>>513686025
he's not him either
its a larp
you're a larp

>>513686058
Your mum larped as a parent

big surprise when ol jnig thinks having a close family is cuckoldry after having his absolutely decimated by noncery, alcoholism and mental illness

>>513686140
kek no wonder he's happy his entire family is dead

>>513686161
lmao

samefagging

>working a temp job looking at applicants for various things
>get a french applicant
>unusual, frenchmen aren’t that common
>look inside
>black
>get a german applicant
>black
>get a dutch applicant
>black
>get a spanish applicant
>well this ones named olubebembe ugufbuwe i don’t even need to look
why do they do this

>>513686196
were the other wogs names obviously wog names? or did they have western names?

>>513682772
None of them any sense against 10,000, 2,500km range, $120,000 pulse-jet Geran-3s.

>>513686192
tbf it's actually surprising he's as much of a flabby, fat, spineless, bitchtitted, useless pussy as he is, people with rough upbringings usually end up like roadmen

>>513686271
mostly all generic western names but some used their ethnic names. quite a few south asians doing it too but they all had obviously paki names.

buy Russian using the money that initially intended for Ukraine

>>513686341
I'm high IQ, I'm an outlier
I'm a nice mix between dangerous and high impulse control
I can survive without having to rob or act like a nigger
but if I need to I will and I have

>>513686341
He went the other way and became a retarded spazmo irl but pretends he's some sort of alpha in his mind

>>513680600 (OP)
>Land Ceptor missile
all of the funny names that Brits have for things - they really dropped the ball on this dud

>>513686425
you're have the IQ of a sack of potatoes
and the physical prowess of stephen hawking
>>513686466
he went the raped tranny way, yeah it's one of the outcomes

>>513686376
and they put their ethnicity down as german etc?
could be for a variety of reasons
my first thought was liability
if someone's lazily going through applications or whatever they'll likely look at the ethnicities and glaze over the names and sort on that basis no? and if thats the case that gives forruns a chance to get their foot in the door, and from then onwards, equality laws and whatever else come into play so it heightens their chances of getting the job?
or it could just be something like they've been instructed to do that for record keeping's sake, based on citizenship instead of actual nationality / ethnicity. and there could be a number of reasons for that

>>513686497
>you're have the IQ of a sack of potatoes
>and the physical prowess of stephen hawking
jej

>>513686559
it didn’t distinguish between ethnicity for non british applicants. only for british born ones were there options like white british, black british, south asian british etc so an actual french applicant and a black french would all get lumped in under the same banner. can think of a number of reasons why.

>>513686196
>Para bailar La Bembe
>Para bailar La Bembe
>Se necesita una poca gufbuwe
>Una poca gufbuwe

>>513686684
so it lumps them all into the same category if they're non british, so either thats because of some bullshit equality law that doesn't allow for differentiation under citizenship and / or its for record keeping to hide the numbers of foreign born or immigrant born nationals applying for and taking positions in europe or something along those lines?

>they both disappear at the same time
kek

>>513686782
im not sure but it could be either option. they’re not asylum seekers as far as im aware, just think it’s a bit sad they’re lumping the actual peoples from those countries with africans and asians.

>>513683755
Whoopsie got your ids mixed up again fatty

>>513686964
yea its going to be for political reasons, 100%

>>513686997
no I just meant to reply to the post under the one I replied to, I was phone posting

>>513682772
Didn't Israel almost run out of THAAD and PAC-3 interceptors and launchers in 12 days of war against Iran?

>>513683363
>The US will soon be producing about 1100 per year for their own purposes.
How soon is "soon?" As I understand it at the moment and for the foreseeable future maximum production is quite a lot less than that. You don't have enough for Ukraine and yourself and if Israel and Iran go at it again, which is only a matter of time in my opinion, then you won't have anywhere near enough. Then you've got the pacific theater when China and North Korea kick off whatever they're going to do.

Can't wait to start work, unemployment is so much harder

>>513683207
Realistically, how quickly could something like this be acquired and deployed in the UK assuming there was a pressing political and military will to do it? How much would it cost? When has a system like this ever successfully shot down a hypersonic missile in combat?

Look all I’m saying is it’s a bit concerning that a bloke who is obsessed with bringing up child abuse and child porn constantly desperately wanted to move from a country with an AOC of 18 to one with an AOC of 15.

>>513684526
I think we will see conventionally tipped Oreshnik's deployed against the UK mainland before 2030. I think Putin will listen to Trenin's escalation model over Karaganov's. He might not though. And the Oreshnik is nuclear capable.

>>513683733
You are America now. So why aren't you making enough already? Can you provide the figures of how many Patriot interceptors America produces per year today and how many it intends to produce by 2028?

here is your daily fetus. keep them away from tongs. thank you.

>>513687224
I'm looking at getting out of work to part-time again, Reeves is getting all taxey and LBC is openly discussing increasing inheritance tax to 100%. Might have to throw all the money into crypto-currency and share the password with family after dying to prevent government snatching it all.

I feel very incentivised to work I do.

>>513687770
the world owes nothing to nobody, work is about occupying your time in service to others not accumulating shekels

>>513687897
Britain never never shall be slaves...

>>513687999
everyone is a slave, watch guy ritchies aladdin

>>513687224
I hope it means you post a lot less. You are very annoying. You post so much to the extent that many can't help but wonder if you're lying about being unemployed. You post so much and in very suspicious ways at times that many can't help but wonder that you are paid for it by malicious actors. I will go further and say that you are, and you are.

corrr
just came absolute buckets
time for a siesta

>>513681425
There is no defence against ballistic missile attack. If Russia shoots one at you they will shoot hundreds and they will all be nukes. Literally nothing can be done about it.

Ethiopia was world renown in the 90's for famine.
The UK is world renown today for decline and rape. Random strangers on the internet find out im this economic zone and the first thing that ask me is along the line of: ""what is it like living with rape pakis?""

Then you look at it on a social level in person, Everybody is pro paki rape gangs on the basis od social class position. Woman above all sign off on the mass rape, It is the woman int he institutions that go the extraordinary lengths to prevent fellow woman (lower class status) justice. Its part of who we are now, The national enjoyment of denying those you consider less than yourself basic human rights.

>>513688479
Ballistic missiles can be shot down but it can be very difficult to do. A saturation attack frontloaded with decoys will always get through. And that's if you've got air defence. We haven't.

>>513688318
I don't know why anyone would find me annoying I think i'm quite innocuous and inoffensive when i'm not drinking,
>that many can't help but wonder
oh it's just bait
>in very suspicious ways at times that many can't help but wonder that you are paid for it by malicious actors
bait by a schizo

Fuck off.

>>513688624
Shut up you fucking faggot.

>>513687240
Not quickly, Israel needs the missiles more than you goy. You can’t buy the missiles that Israel needs. Iranian hypersonic and normal ballistic missiles hit Israel two months ago despite US missile interceptor shield.

>>513688667
Israel can barely buy the missiles Israel needs. There is a massive production bottleneck. There isn't enough for Ukraine and Israel let alone the UK. Israel was running out of interceptors in 12 days of war with Iran and they got critical infrastructure targets hit more than 100 times which they tried to stop but couldn't.

>>513688666
>666
I think you are very annoying, people who come on and act aggy for 'based bait' or however you justify yourself

>>513688750
Kill yourself faggot.

>>513688666
he’s got you seething lmao little pussy boy

Not been able to get a doctors appointment since november, The deal is we're conquered.

This island stood for 1k years and it was in my lifetime we lost it all, It is with this humiliation i will throw my life away at the drop of a hat.

>makes a political post
>*crickets*

>>513688810
Shut up you fucking faggot.

>>513688479
US THAAD is pretty good at intercepting ballistic missiles high up in the atmosphere if they are detected early. The problem is they already expended 30% of their stockpile during the Iran-Israel war, and last night I saw a Reuters report on how replenishing these missiles will cost 2-3 billion with only 20-30 missiles being made per year. When you consider that Russia is producing 600+ Iskander-M's per year (according to NATO report) it's becomes obvious that the Western MIC needs a complete overhaul. Because Iskander-M is only one missile type, there are many others such as the Kinzhal, Zircon, and then there's also cruise missiles like the Kalibr, X-101 and its many variants (these can be intercepted with Patriots, but again there is a cost issue).

people can see the chaos swelling around me, Im sure of it.
Later intellectuals

>>513688882
Exactly. And you only listen Russian missiles. There are Iranian and Chinese too. Iran has stockpiles of missiles hidden under mountains stacked up like cigarette cartons. They can easily oversaturate and expend western interceptor production in around 21 days at most. Then that's it. There's almost nothing left and nothing coming off the production line for another year.

>>513689021
listed*

>>513688796
I'll meet you tomorrow N all
in cauldrons honor
Fight me cunt

The only way for a western MIC overhaul would be a genuine wartime economy with production of other goods taken over by weapons manufacturing. It can't be done overnight. It takes a while to set up and scale it up.

>>513689105
Shut up you smelly GCHQ faggot.

>>513688870
Filtered.

>>513689105
You couldn't even spa with a bag for 60 seconds you genetic disaster ahahahaha fatty goblin nonce noshoulders

>>513689273
I spa'd with your mum all last night mate

True Story ....One night at a party, I passed out drunk on the sofa in the basement and woke up to some dude sucking my Dick!

"So I says ...Motherfucker, as soon as you're done Im kicking your ass..."

>>513689331
Fucking state of that

True Story ....One night at a party, I passed out drunk on the sofa in the basement and woke up to some dude sucking my Dick!

"So I says ...Motherfucker, as soon as you're done Im licking your ass..

>https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/scandalous-andy-burnham-speaks-out-32321798
>'Scandalous': Andy Burnham speaks out on asylum seeker hotels

Mental that they were calling us far right thugs and stuff just last year, now the lefty Mayor would be more likely to stand on our side. Even if it is from a position of defending councils from the evil home office, which is such a disgusting and bureaucratic position it beggars belief.
>“The Home Office has done it on the cheap. Working with the private sector they have bought up property or done deals with hotels, all of which is done from an office in London with no real consultation with people and they leave local councils to deal with that.

>>513689516
True Story ....One night at a party, I passed out drunk on the sofa in the basement and woke up to some dude sucking my Dick!

"So I says ...Motherfucker, as soon as you're done Im fucking your ass..

I've done him

>>513689331
this would have been funny if you wrote it in that stupid dialect you bongs have but now i know youre just a jeet and hope youre exterminated.

I've been to three parties this week. I'm so popular.

X just locked my account and made me verify i was a human for correcting the spelling mistake of a journalist she made in an article

>>513689790
Translated to Bri''ish:
One noight ye, go' smashed mate, propah 'rarted ye? Pissed as a poiky... Crashed out of the sofa and bloime, some block is giving me willy a propah tug, with oll the juices and custard mate, felt very posh corr

Couldn't stop the lad mid job, he had a propah loicense and permits, employment is tricky nowadays, so we shagged

>>513690079
On*
Bloke**

>>513680600 (OP)
>Rapier system

Have the forrins heard of that, and think it's something else?

>>513680600 (OP)

>>Faced with a variety of new threats,


Self inflicted

>>513680600 (OP)
>15 miles
Practically shorad tier. Tf they going to do against standoffs with ranges of hundreds of miles?

>>513690366
WHERE DA WHITE WOMAN AT

>>513689273
*spar

>>513690219
*on
*bloke
Learn the difference between a typographical correction and a footnote, dumb yid.

>>513686487
presenting the british armys new rifle the "archibald trubshot mark 3" or how about the new armoured personel carrier "the periwinkle steelwomble"

joke of a country putin fire the oreshniks

>>513690514
nothing. britain is a gaping vagina waiting to get fucked

>>513689851
was the journalist jewish

Jovan osiwaki clickbongu on good morning yookay, talking of putting migrants in the community. Oh it's terrible the poor illegals.
The guy talking about what should be happening (shove em in a camp!), is talking sense. Guess he's either not in the government or has a miniscule role.

>>513690762
Corrrr

>>513689021
the ingredients for making these missiles all come from china.

>>513680600 (OP)

rapier - ire rap - Eire rape
land ceptor - cpo ret and l - capo rent hand lop (d>p)
land ceptor - nd la pe cort - hand law pet court (n>h)
sky sabre - sy arb k se - sly arab punk sex (s>un)

>but can they protect us?

No.

>>513690971

america crippled by DEI and europoors now desperately studying grainy pictures of advanced chinese weapons to try to figure out how to copy them.

these are just the ones on show, imagine what china has thats secret

forget the giant nuclear drone sub, look at the truck. i dont think the UK even has one truck that size. china probably has thousands

>>513690831
Listening to the radio last night having a wash.
1. these poor children are escaping from war torn countries.
2. No such thing as British/English/etc because we have been constantly invaded for thousands of years.

>>513690718
>Propah denotations an' ems
Oh, Oi don't know about oll that Pip, I loike to keep to me coin-clippin'

>>513683169
I like how his name marks him as a exceptional
Could have called him Exceptional Nigger

britain doesnt even have its own apps.
just goes around moaning and complaining that other countries websites and apps they use dont conform to their own stupid laws. MAKE YOUR OWN gay cucked internet ecosystem that nobody else uses.

gay stupid faggoty country

>>513691233
Start calling woman fat bitches and brown people niggers.

This was my island until the banks gave it to niggers for proxy control from Israel. Smash shit up, Scorched earth

>>513690789
tautology

>>513691385
>>513683169
>1 nigger in 10,000, the exceptional nigger

>>513691456
Based wrecker

Morning shaggers.

in 2007 the UK population was estimated at 77 - 80 million.

That was 18 years ago, 18 years of the most intense influx of third world immigration what do you think the population is now? 90? 100 million?

>>513691233
>No such thing as British/English/etc
By these peoples definition. No one is native to anywhere if the out of Africa theory is to be believed. All humans migrated in to 4 corners of the Earth.
Would they tell a Jew they are not native to Israel. Or a Zulu is not native to Kenya.

08:47
Russian risk to Europe increases as Ukraine war comes to an end - military commander

By Siobhan Robbins, Europe correspondent

A Danish military commander has warned the closer we get to end of the war in Ukraine, the greater the risk to Europe of attack from Russia.

Naval officer Anders Puck Nielsen, who is also an analyst at the Royal Danish Defence College, said Russian forces would be more dangerous if they felt defeat was near.

"I would expect to see an escalation in hybrid attacks in this scenario but wouldn’t rule out a limited challenge of NATOs Article 5 with an attack on the Baltic states," he explained.

"It would be a wake-up call, an effort to try to deter Europeans from sending weapons to Ukraine."

Article 5 is the collective defence clause which views an attack against one NATO member as an attack against all.

The NATO chief has repeatedly warned that Russia could be capable of attacking a member state in the next five years.

Some predict an attack on one of the Baltic States could be possible in as little as three years.

Many of Ukraine's allies believe the result in the war in Ukraine will directly impact the future security of the whole of Europe.

To help lower the risk, they're currently in discussions about what security guarantees they could offer Kyiv as part of any peace agreement.

"Adding ground forces is not necessarily what they need but providing an air force would be very helpful," says Puck Nielsen.

He believes a so-called tripwire force involving strategically placed foreign troops could also be a useful consideration.

The idea is the troops help to deter aggression with the understanding an attack on them could trigger larger military response from Ukraine’s allies.

Russia's foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, has consistently underlined that Moscow would never accept a peace plan which involved stationing European or NATO troops in Ukraine.

(1/2)

>>513691900
"The presence of foreign troops in Ukraine is completely unacceptable for Russia," he said.

Aside from security guarantees, Puck Nielsen argues the best way to help Ukraine is to bring Russia to a point where it can't continue to fight by providing it with weapons and enforcing extra sanctions on Russia.

"Before the war can end, one side has to be close to losing but at the moment both Russia and Ukraine still think time is on their side," he says.

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-zelenskyy-putin-ukraine-latest-live-updates-12541713

(2/2)

just according to the government fake stats there has been net migration of 8 million people in those 18 years so the real figure is probably + 15 million

so we're looking at 95 million population, 40% at least being indigent useless brown mouths to feed

Skynewsnonce shilling more war. Two more weeks.

>>513691900
>He believes a so-called tripwire force involving strategically placed foreign troops could also be a useful consideration.
ERM I BEG YOUR PARDON DID YOU JUST CALLED THEM A TRIPWIRE FORCE?

>>513691963
SHOVE IT UP YOUR MUM'S ARSE YOU FEEBLEMINDED GCHQ NONCE

>>513691963
Corrrr I can't wait for all the white men to die a pointless death in a frozen ditch in a meme country thousands of miles away all so we can import more boatwogs.

>Aside from security guarantees, Puck Nielsen argues the best way to help Ukraine is to bring Russia to a point where it can't continue to fight by providing it with weapons and enforcing extra sanctions on Russia.
HEY PUCK NIELSON WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF WEAPONS TO GIVE THEM YOU FUCKING RETARD AND RUSSIA IS OUTPRODUCING THE ENTIRE WESTERN MIC

DUMBARSE SAILOR

>>513691233
It's madness, these people don't have a clue about reality. What stopped the gmy segment was the jovan lad saying about how the immigrants could be in the community, and "chip" in for things like health services. The guy who was making sense said something like "we don't even know if we'll let them style in the country so how could they contribute?" It was answered with a few erm?, well?'s, then judge bumder piped in with a contrary opinion and they ended the bit.

>>513691760
Morning lad. My shagging will be tomorrow when I get home, I'll be shagging muh hand before I go to sleep

sick of it

>>513680600 (OP)
>>Since the end of the Cold War, the UK has been involved in expeditionary warfare - wars of choice - and generally against less capable adversaries.
lol

>>513691900
Do they think putin and his chums were sat about, and put in said, you know what lads, this war has been quite beneficial, who's next?

>>513680600 (OP)
Its all been spent on security cameras and paper for all them loicenses (((for your safety)))

>>513680600 (OP)
Sorry Mates... gotta hot fix it here... paddy the baddy wot wot cheerio give them blood n vinegar.... LETS SHOW THESE GUYS WHAT THE QUEENS MARINES CAN REALLY DO!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qanF-91aJo

>>513692564
IT'S FUNNIER IF YOU READ IT IN HIS VOICE

07:36
Kim Jong Un awards troops who fought for Russia

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has awarded North Korean troops who fought for Russia in the war against Ukraine in a ceremony, the state news agency KCNA reports.

Kim reportedly said in a speech to troops that the "liberation of Kursk" proved the "fighting spirit of the heroes".

During the ceremony, the North Korean leader laid a flower at a memorial wall for soldiers fallen overseas, and a concert was held for soldiers returned from Russia as well as a banquet that included bereaved family members, KCNA reports.

Approximately 600 North Korean troops have been killed fighting for Russia against Ukraine out of a total deployment of 15,000, South Korean lawmakers said in April, citing the country's intelligence agency.

>>513692769
HE SAID YESTERDAY THIS LOT WON'T BE THE LAST TO FIGHT OVER THERE LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND IT

>>513692769
NORTH KOREA BEST KOREA!!!!

>>513692564
You guys count Eurovision as 'warfare'

>>513680600 (OP)

Useless against hypersonics.
Useless against drones.
Useless against swarm attacks.

Reminder UK MoD has no idea what it is doing.

Type 45's dont work in warm water and 3 out of 5 are broken being refitted.

The Aircraft Carriers propellors dont work, dont have catapults, and their aircraft cant carry enough weapons, and they cant carry enough aircraft due to needing steam generation plant to launch them.

The new AJAX vehicle doesnt work, deafens the crew, and will never see active service.

The challenger tanks are just targets, useless today.

The UKs armed forces, weak on paper, are only about 1% deployable. We'd struggle to send 5000 to Ukraine today.
Useless against

>>513691924
Whatever happened to UN peace keepers? Supposedly neutral. Recruited from various, generally poorer countries armies.

>>513692417
>using your hand to pleasure a man's penis
Bit gay that

>4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq68j5g2nr1o
trolololol

>>513692904
THE COALITION OF THE WILLING ISN'T A PEACEKEEPING FORCE IT'S A WAR FIGHTING FORCE OR AS THIS PIECE ACCIDENTALLY LETS SLIP HERE >>513691900 A "SO CALLED TRIPWIRE FORCE"

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/20/far-right-anger-asylum-hotels-destroying-refuge
>Far-right anger over asylum hotels is destroying the very idea of refuge – and that’s probably the goal
>The court ruling on the Bell hotel does not just legitimise anti-immigrant sentiment; it also risks erasing a whole category of people
Scaremongering over theoretical genocide and victim blaming, truly another Gruridna masterclass


>More than this, the ruling has solidified a sense of legitimate, citizen anger against refugees. Since the Southport riots, there has been a familiar ratchet: hard-right provocateurs generate real life protests, often from great distances, because when you’re organising on Telegram anyone can count as a “local resident”.
This is the Rittenhouse line but reheated almost 5 years later
>It’s now impossible to have a debate about immigration without acknowledging this huge wellspring of fury, and it is simply not the done thing to ask whether the rage is justified.
We is the country doing now except having a debtae over the issue?
>If the problem with refugees is that they arrive illegally, would it help to have more legal routes? If the hotels are the issue, could we not work towards dispersal in the first instance, and much faster processing of claims?
"Just give them everything they want but faster, bro"
>Does anyone want to resile from the 1951 UN refugee convention?
Yes! It was made for another world that's long gone

>>513692401
no normie likes the globohomo flag

>>513692838
Supposedly the engine is as reliable as it gets, yet the planes keep failing.

>>513693030
>That would seem to be implicit in Reform UK’s promise to leave the European convention on human rights, but would any party or organisation that doesn’t want that care to explain how it is executing its duty towards refugees, and plans to do so in the future?
Fuck 'em!
>If you take away the protection granted to them by the state, there is no asylum to claim. How, then, do we define these people? Without a political definition, do they exist? Even though the issue is very different, it’s not tactically dissimilar to the legal campaign waged against trans people, resulting in April’s ruling that everyone has to use the toilets and other facilities of their biological sex. It doesn’t say you have no right to live as trans; it’s just unfortunately impractical for you to do so unless you stay at home. Do you still exist, do you still have rights?
Send them back

https://xcancel.com/BBCr4today/status/1958436465177715064#m
>"We don't have a large amount of issues caused by asylum seekers."
>Sir David Normington, former Home Office Permanent Secretary, tells #R4Today that 'generally' any trouble associated with asylum hotels is down to upset in the local community.
Is this the new regime line? That by complaining we deserve to get stabbed, raped, robbed, set alight?

>>513680600 (OP)
by the way is it just me or does this sky sabre tech look kinda too light to be effective?

you set it up by making two trucks kiss
and then they deploy two sticks and a missile launcher with what seems to hold 8 missiles?

>>513692963
Ah bugger, but late to say no homo now as well.
>>513692977
It's going to be interesting to see what happens when the murrican KOSA is passed. Will their amendments will protect them?

the future of America you’re looking at it pussy ass cracker

>>513693052

Probably UK's useless maintenance crews. I doubt they are trained enough or get enough practice because we cant afford to operate/cycle the crews and planes.

At one point Germany had only 2 working Eurofighters, because their other 2 crashed into one another due to lack of training. Almost all of their aircraft are grounded and broken. Von Der Leyen's skilful management.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/german-air-force-only-has-four-active-typhoon-jets/

If you get a deliveroo its slop delivered from a grubby bag on a pajeet moped or on his sweaty back.
This puts me off.

Good morning, bongs.

>>513693400
Its hard to believe 2000 was nearly 50 years ago.

>>513693400
Morning Pierre.

>>513693400
Bonjour.

Morning spastics

>>513693438
We are closer to January 2050, than we are to January 2000.
That's a scary thought

>>513692813

>Riggs Eurovision vote because you’re massive sados
>Edited out boos from crowd because you’re massive sados

No u

>>513692401
I was expecting that but its a fucking awful idea - they really dont realise the your average tard in the street does not in fact feel threated by the national flag, and by setting themselves in opposition to that the only true colours they show are their own.

>>513693400
Morning Akhmed
Make mine black please

>>513693555
*dribbles and waves at you*
CZECH'D

>>513693128
>Sir David Normington, former Home Office Permanent Secretary

Wonder where Sir Dave lives? Some very out the way rural idyll no doubt on his final salary pension.

>>513693729
>Normington
No doubt another Norman pretender

>>513693619
>Make mine black please

>>513693030
>now impossible to have a debate
Lmao cos they didnt want to listen preferring to screech about racists to the point people dgaf about that label. Youd think they have the smarts to read the room and realise if they dont start listening now they really wont like what comes next
>Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable

>>513692838
DO YOU KNOW OUT OF THE CHALLENGER II'S WE SENT UKRAINE HOW MANY ARE STILL ALIVE TODAY?

>>513693785
Kek
Touche Pierre

>>513693805
The news is just distraction

>>513693805
Watching back on panel shows from 10-15 years ago is so jarring, people would clap any old libtard bollocks that would now go down like a hot cup of sick

>>513693822
9 out of 12?

>on plebbit
>see post about 4chin refusing to pay the OSA cuckfines
>all the comments are people hand wringing about how evil this place is
>how they would never come here
>how we should be banned from the internet
>how we're all retarded
>but they admire hiromoot for saying "no way fags"
Sometimes I do wish this place was as hardcore and badass as the general population seems to think. In reality we're all just a bunch of monkeys flinging poo at each other and enjoying every minute of it.

>>513689021
This operates on the assumption that

a) We will just sit there and let them shoot missiles at us

b) We don't have the capability to destroy their launchers, command infrastructure and cut off the head of the snake, regardless of whether they have missile stockpiles or not.

>>513693822
Ironically slavs cant into combined arms anymore

>>513692838
Actually only 1 type 45 on active duty at the moment and I think about 4 type 23's

Add to that I carrier and that is it for the Royal Navy in terms of surface fleet that can be deployed.

Seems there is a price to pay if you dismantle a nation state and alienate the population. You are left with the ruling elite and their yes men and paid retainers along with your newly imported wogs.

Good luck with that.

morning lads
another day another article about 4chinz on the bbc

>>513693979
ESPECIALLY NOT WHEN NATO TRAINING SENT UKRAINE THROUGH MINEFIELDS WITH NO AIR SUPPORT DURING THE FAILED OFFENSIVE SO THERE WASN'T MUCH LEFT BY THE TIME THEY GOT WITHIN FIRING RANGE OF THE RUSSIANS

>>513693933
I ONLY KNOW OF ABOUT 4 BEING DESTROYED BUT WHERE ARE THE OTHER 8 IF THAT'S TRUE?

>>513694138
In the back lines? I thought after the first one was destroyed on literally day one of deployment we mandated that they all be relegated to rear echelon duties or something to placate our egos

>>513689146
kek
All that production capacity generally disappeared starting in the Thatcher era.
You are imagining British industry as it was 80 years ago.
We don't need heavy industry and shipbuilding remember its all that computers and software now.

>4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq68j5g2nr1o

>>513694207
I SAW MORE BLOWN UP AFTER THAT FIRST ONE GOT KILLED AND SOME MONTHS LATER ANOTHER ONE I SAW WAS KILLED

Might have a wank lads.
I'll think about Starmer when I do it.
Not in a gay way mind, but because he doesn't want me to have one to anything without proving my age.
Thing is I'm not going to prove my age. So that's one act of defiance.
By imagining his "hard man" facial expression where he looks like he's just shat himself that's a second act of defiance.
Not remotely arousing, but that's not the point. It's about sending a message.
If anything the fact that it's going to be a bigger challenge to jerk my weenie, given the situation, is what makes it even more rebellious.
I'm like that Chinese geezer who stood in front of the tanks. An act of silent defiance that still strikes to the core.
They called him Tankman
I'll be Wankman

new bread

>>513694177
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>>513694177

>>513694102
Morning lad. They love having a whinge, they never say the great things 4chins has done... remember that stock trading April's fool day? That was great.

>>513694338
new one for the filter

>>513680600 (OP)
>Britain buys new air defence missile systems
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/britain-buys-new-air-defence-missile-systems/

>>513680600 (OP)
It doesn't seem like a smart idea, seeding British troops to launch British missiles into Russia and then say, oh but it's not really Russia, and they're not really our troops, when the entire UK is basically undefended. It's almost as if all the govts we've had are begging for some civilian casualties to justify what they've been doing without any debate or due process

>>513694455
>6 more
>double our capacity
What a meme country kek

based

>>513693200
it can just about defend a football field from attacks by slow flying biplanes

>>513694455
>>513694547
>Last minute, ad hoc, missile defense systems, far away unwanted war with Russia
God awful
Do you guys still do navy-scouts or whatever it's called? Where teenagers learn seamanship? It's fun but also navy prep etc

>Rasmussen: No security for Ukraine without European troops
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/rasmussen-no-security-for-ukraine-without-european-troops/

>>513680600 (OP)
your only defense is to scream into the sky while watching how a kinzhal is approaching your homeland.

>disagree with a plebbitor
>they insult you then block you so you can't call them a faggot back
They're such children on that site.

>>513694771
dm then a picture of a machete and say you will slice their balls off and feed it to their trans partner

>>513694736
>Rasmussen emphasised the need for Europeans to change their mindset towards defence after what he described as harvesting the “peace dividend” too quickly. “We have to make sure that we have a will to defend our societies. We harvested the peace dividend too quickly. Obviously, we want to invest in hospitals, in elderly care, in childcare, in education, and that’s a better way of spending our money. But we have to realise that all those elements in our welfare state are worth nothing if we are not able to defend ourselves.”
I WONDER WHAT HE'D SAY ABOUT FILLING THE UK WITH 10 BILLION DIFFERENT TYPES OF WOG AND GIVING MOST OF THEM FREE HOUSING, HEALTHCARE AND EVERYTHING?

HOW CAN THAT CONTINUE TO GO ON IF YOU WANT TO FIGHT A REAL WAR?

IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT THE BRITISH ESTABLISHMENT IS COMPLETELY INSANE

>>513694547
TBF The MOD never give out true production/order figures on things like missiles and ammunition.
That is literally handing the opposition priceless info. It's likely the new orders will just be sent to Ukraine anyway along with some 'advisors' but most training will be done in the UK. They just sheep dip the Ukrainians to be British Army recruits for the duration of the training then discharge them back to the Ukrainian forces 6 months or so down the line.

Easy as that - all unpleasant questions of how involved we are in fighting Russia avoided.

>>513694767
Pease sent to Kinzal to you actual enemies Ivan
And you know who I mean

>>513694767
Do you remember when there was no soup?

>>513693989

I know some exRN guys, in their early 50s now and working in the private sector. They get monthly begging letters asking them to come back and operate the few ships we can scrape together. These are mostly technical roles, obviously not Royal Marine type stuff. I'd imagine the RAF is more or less the same.

Don't know what happened to all the women, fags, and trannies they wanted to recruit. Maybe they didnt want to spend 4 months at sea, maybe 6 since we are so short of crews.

>>513693989
>Actually only 1 type 45

What the public dont know, is that one by one many weapon systems were cancelled for these ships, so the thing is half empty full of compartments that were supposed to be for weapon system X or Y which never got fitted. For example the Type 45s have no anti-air capability at all. Even the SOFTWARE upgrade for the main gun was cancelled, so it cant shoot things in the air, lol.

The nuke submarines are even more shocking, the public will never be told about the situation there.

HERE'S WHAT MERCOURIS HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE ALLEGED HACK ON THE UKRAINIAN GENERAL STAFF AND THE LEAK ABOUT THE 1.7 MILLION UKRAINIANS KIA OR MIA (THAT'S KIA AND MIA THE FIGURES DON'T INCLUDE WIA)

https://youtu.be/-nUYCBm2448?t=5073

(TIMESTAMPED AT 1:24:33)

Morning spakkers

Things have got that bad in Ayrshire that ham is now placed on top of a 25 ft greased pole with barbed wire to deter niggers

>>513680600 (OP)
>100kg
>10kg
you don't realize this but you already lost

>>513694767

Plz nuke Hull.

>>513691385
Imagine being that one aberration of nature,160 IQ black man living in an absolute sea of unga bungas when John and Smith show up in a big boat and clothes and you desperately try to get on board to not be left to live in niggeria with the savages and then the english actually respond by naming you reasonable blackman because you are the only one who isn't chimping out and is trying to learn the language and converse like a person on the continent of niggers.
Absolute nightmare fuel to be born like that.

A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO I POSTED AN ESTIMATE OF ROUGHLY 1.5 MILLION UKRAINIANS KIA AND I STILL THINK THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT NO MATTER THE AUTHENTICITY OF THIS SUPPOSED HACK AND ITS DATA

>>513695188
>The nuke submarines are even more shocking, the public will never be told about the situation there.
TOTALLY FUCKING FUCKED MATE

>>513695300
>Imagine being that one aberration of nature,160 IQ black man living in an absolute sea of unga bungas
I know the feels though

>>513695300
many such cases
I mean
at least two such cases

>>513694338
she looks like a 43 year old haggard gp receptionist bless her

Japanese knotweed into ANY HMO

>>513680600 (OP)
>UK has been involved in expeditionary warfare - wars of choice - and generally against less capable adversaries
Like the empire before WW1. Facing an industrial power in battle, instead of mud tribes wielding pointy sticks, was a brutal shock.

>>513695241
Lucky for you, I have leg spasticity, so as a verified spastic I can reply.
Morning.

Wtaf

Reform: for washed up twats

>>513694103
Announcing this counter-offensive on reddit months in advance and also making youtube advertisements for it was probably peak NAFO in this war.
In terms of pure retardation I like Krynki operations more, where basically British advisers kept sending Ukrainian spec ops units on boats through reed thickets to the one spot on Dniepr river which Russian army turned into shooting gallery. Survival rate = basically zero. For fucking months.

Is it?

>>513692977
They'll either give in or force ISPs to block 4chan.
Probably block, unless Labour depose Starmer.

>>513695785
They're doing experiments to try to figure out how Trump worked. Celebrities? It's got to be celebrities.

>>513695944
>i ran out so had to invent new ones

Ukraine NATO Article 5 Alaska peace talks security deals ceasefire

>>513694103
half a league, half a league, half a league onward

>>513695660
What obstacles will I need to overcome to get some chicken ffs

>>513695831
She is practically begging to be colonized
Anglos where you at?

Two type 26s getting outfitted on the Clyde rn that look menacing

>>513695188
They do have anti Air - that is their main role.
What they don't have is much anti sub or anti surface.
The whole project was designed by uni grads called Crispin on their spreadsheets, with zero input from the people have have to actually maintain and operate these things in the marine environment for decades.

One of the type 45s has been in repair for a longer period than it took to actually build it.

Its a criminal level of incompetence and waste but you can be sure those in charge will take no blame

Look, all I'm saying is it's a bit sus to move from a country with an AOC of 18 to one with an AOC of 15 when all you ever talk about is child abuse and nonces

>>513696181
Rose likes em white

>>513691233
If there is no such thing as an indigenous English then why bother defending this island?

>>513694767
scream with laughter with tears of joy streaming down my face?

>>513680600 (OP)
LOL. The 4chan archive sites have age verification on them.

>>513692401
>Sunder "Wrong About Every Fucking Thing" Katwala

>>513696433
because its a sanctuary for jews to practise usury. the goyim must defend it

>>513696255
T45 is for fleet defense they dont really factor into uk land defence.

>>513696181
Already done 'er bruv
Yesterday's cunt init

>>513691856
>By these peoples definition. No one is native to anywhere if the out of Africa theory is to be believed.
It's truly a load of bollocks. Where do you draw the line?

>>513695079
They have fixed on wogs, females and troons to 'fill the gap' a gap created by alienating the very people who are the county when all is said and done.
The top brass stream is largely untouched - public school uni/Sandhurst. Its the actually people whom they give orders to that have said fuck it.
This is the most serious issue with the ruling elite and its social engineering subversions. You cannot collapse and them reorder a country like the UK that had taken literally a 1000 years of heritage to make it what is was.

>>513696332
never e girls
unfollow all women on social media
never ever e girls

>>513696579
drawing those kind of lines brings up echoes of the holobunga which is antithetical to british values

>>513696548
It was counted in as part of the strategic air defence. The Aster missile has anti ballistic missile capability

>>513696684
She has a nice lickable tummy tho

>>513696617
It will be funny to see them try but yeah you cannot just bring back a social order overnight that took 1000 years to form after destroying it

>>513696684
Alri Cauldy la?
How did the interview go?

Your gov'ment soon will start using the military to enforce the law
Then funny thing will be that they'll bring the brown military that they've been training

They pay em well though

>>513696617
>public school uni/Sandhurst
The "elite" of this country have a very old final-days-of-the-aristocracy feel to them. They wake up in the morning, get out of bed and just hold their arms out waiting for someone to dress them. They aren't even aware a person is dressing them. They think this is how everyone puts their clothes on. Eventually his butler dies of old age or something and then the lord just never gets dressed anymore. His housecleaner dies and he just lives in filth. But all the while maintains his sense of superiority.
To them, the system just works. And it will continue to work without those pesky peasants running around.

>>513696721
Yeah but i reckon thats bollocks, although it has anti air and abm, if we get into an actual shooting war where putler is sending oroshnik and kinzals london way, theyre not got going to park them off the coast as defence. We need multilayered protection from something like thaad or aegis ashore down to point defence shorad.

>>513680600 (OP)
that launcher has 8 missiles. how quickly can they be restocked? 20 minutes? an hour?
trump was going on about Patriot systems being 99 t0 100% accurate but it has 16 missiles. you only need 17 missiles to destroy one. you only need 9 to destroy a Sky Sabre.

>but can they defend us!

FROM WHAT? WE'RE A FUCKIN' ISLAND STRIPPED OF ALL ITS NATURAL RESOURCES IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN. WHO THE FUCK IS COMING HERE TO ATTACK US AND WHAT MATERIEL DO THEY GAIN FROM IT??

>>513697003
have you ever known britain to implement any infrastructure without it becoming a massively over budget white elephant

>>513697054
they gain satisfaction of destroying evil, and high fives from all the other countries we've been arrogant towards

>>513693805
>>now impossible to have a debate
>Lmao cos they didnt want to listen preferring to screech about racists to the point people dgaf about that label. Youd think they have the smarts to read the room and realise if they dont start listening now they really wont like what comes next
This. I remember seeing debates on tv shows 20 years ago where even people expressing pretty fucking mild but sensible objections to immigration were just scrreched at and called racists/fascists/nazis.
The left have crapped all over *any* attempts at reasoning with them and spat in the face of anyone who tried to shake their hand and have a polite conversation.
Fuck 'em.
I don't want to see debates with them now. I want them punished.

>>513697003
It moot at that point. Russia can hit all the key UK infrastructure points with launchers from inside Russia itself.
This country is so overpopulated and therefore vulnerable to supply disruption you can look at a collapse in weeks. People in the UK think they are the mini USA when in fact they are a big Holland with a much lower standard of living.

>>513686684
I wonder whether the govt will start aggressively recruiting among the BAMEphiles to ensure that a White uprising will be crushed with the ferocity of Tiananmen

>>513697054
Arguably it isn't even worth the missile cost to fire at us.

>>513696103
Probably have to get past some security. A lot of blacks like chicken. A lot of blacks like trouble, so chicken outlets are usually heavily fortified.

>>513680600 (OP)
>no air defense
thats obviously bullshit because you're flying aircraft over me every fucking day and i'm not even a foreign military.

I wonder whether the govt will start aggressively recruiting among the BAMEs to ensure that a White uprising will be crushed with the ferocity of Tiananmen

NEW

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>>513697055
a massively overbudget white elephant won trafalgar, and captured the spanish massively overbudget white elephant

>>513697169
The hard-left were indeed always like this. They preyed on the "fair play" mindset of the average man, where you would actually try to argue your point to them as if you could sway them. But they are fanatical, and they have no interest in arguing fairly. Debate is meaningless to them. They will twist anything to their own end, nothing means anything.

>>513697169
QT was literally a humiliation ritual for the 'right'. If Nick Griffin hadn't been such a clown on it, he might have turned the tables on them. He tried too hard to go the 'me a racist? surely some mistake!' routine with them and they just took him apart easily.

It was the BBC after all and they are completely in the pockets of the left/jews - except on the subject of Israel when they are to the right of Geobbels.