Thread 519310098

You're gonna build the tunnel and you're gonna like it.

see how no one cares?

>>519310098 (OP)
This is one of the few things that actually would be a net gain for the world. Sure some places win more than others but more fluid trade benefits almost everyone. The train should also connect north and south America. And go through Russia to Europe.

>>519311578
i care

>>519311631
Sorry, can't have Russia and China getting stronger therefore we'll blow it up

>>519311631
its a tunnel to nowhere
noone lives on the other side of it
typical russian idea

>>519311631
I agree, but that project would require a lot more than "just" the tunnel. Both ends of it would also need to be connected to rest of the country preferably by both railway and road, which would be difficult on the Russian side since there is almost nothing there spare a few minor tourist attractions.

>>519313648
Except the train network that connects to all of Asia and Europe you bumbling fucking retard. You could ride a train from America to London.

>>519313910
There would need to be a lot of expantion. No trains go to Chukotka.

>>519310098 (OP)
Lol long beach is toast

the more connected the world becomes the more shitty it gets.

>>519313648
There's already built railway on the other side, dumbass.

>>519313910
Don't you understand the implications????? Youre just allowing the filth to enter white society more easily. This is gonna backfire on whites so hard.

>>519313910
This, more infrastructure is generally a good thing.

>>519314459
We know.

>>519310098 (OP)

They should make a train that goes all the way around the world like Snowpiercer

>>519311631
In theory, sure. But the Russian northeast is not connected to civilization by rail or road, and doing so is a logistical nightmare.
The Uelen displayed on that map has a population of 700 people.
This proposal then would result in parts of Russia being more connected to America than the metropole, which I imagine the Russian government would be opposed to, and whatever you're transporting through the tunnel having to be flown across Russia anyway.

>>519313910
>>519316563
what retarded horeeshit
this is nowhereland Siberia
you russians are really the stupidest motherfuckers on the planet

Sounds fun.
I bet US would like the idea of having more neighbors as well, besides canada and Mexico.

>>519313910
>You could ride a train from America to London.
why the fuck would you take a 3 week train(assuming no stops) to do that when you could just take a plane or a boat?

>>519310098 (OP)
scam

lol it's not just Russia's side that needs to be built up, there's fucking nothing in most of Alaska either

>>519318191
Everything was nowhereland to start you retard. Once you create infrastructure it booms. A direct connection between europe, Asia and North America would create levels of wealth never before seen.

>>519319211
there is at least something in Alaska
there is nothing on that side of the russian border

>>519313910
Retard alert

>>519310098 (OP)
if it's not this, i don't want it

>>519319492
The guy you're replying to posts in every thread and just shits them up with negativity and resentment, always in the same lower case, 3-4 line format. If he is not saying "fucking horseshit" his other, and only, line is "you lying nigger". Once you spot him, it is better to not bother as he wants to drag everyone into pointless arguments as he is such a miserable cunt.

>>519319211
Alaska:
>Extensive road networks connecting many communities (though still many remote areas)
>Multiple airports with regular commercial flights
>Developed ports, including in Anchorage and Dutch Harbor
>Energy infrastructure includes oil pipelines and electrical grids

Chukotka:
>Very limited road connectivity — mostly between key towns; many settlements only accessible by air or sea
>Airports in major towns like Anadyr serve as lifelines
>Ports mainly used seasonally due to ice conditions
>Energy mostly dependent on local diesel generators and limited grids

Alaska rail mileage:
800 miles (about 1,287 km)
Chukotka rail mileage:
ZERO

Alaska won, Chukotka lost. My ancestors fought Russians in the battle of Sitka. I will never allow a Russian railway in my homeland. We are Tlingit and we do not forget, nor do we forget how Russia treats their natives when compared to the soverign nations we have in Alaska.

>>519317036
generally, but not in the current geoploticial climate.

>>519319007
This guy gets it.

>>519318218
No. I don't forget what you did to my ancestors. I'm Tlingit. And today we have some Yupiks who came from Chukotka for cultural exchanges and they have much less native rights than we do. I will never allow such a train here.

>>519310098 (OP)
russia is in no place to be coming up with schemes like this.

>>519313708
Isn't paved road extremely hard to maintain in the climate and soil of Northern Russia?

For those in the lower 48 who don't know, our sovereign tribal lands aren't under the BIA.

Also, we and New Mexico are the only state to have the percent % of the state native remain the same or go up since statehood

St. Lawrence, 6th largest island in the USA, is entirely Yupik owned and you must get Yupik permission to enter even as a US citizen of course, as it's part of a soverign nation.

Many Chukotkan Yupiks would go there and the state of Yupiks in Russia is very sad as they have no soverign rights.

>>519310098 (OP)
Which side will use it to invade first?

Lets do it.
I love the idea of kicking back by the fire in some Alaskan lodge with some hot Russian chick riding my dick. I imagine we have to get that whole pesky Ukraine business wrapped up first.

>>519319885
>why is that guy so negative about my idea of undertaking monumental infrastructure works in the wilderness of the Russian far east with nothing but good vibes?
Ffs it's a part of the world where roads are unusable in summer and the ports freeze over in winter.

>>519310098 (OP)
A tunnel Russian? In Yahutsk

Did you guys not think of these when coming up with your master plan?

>>519320953
Somewhere in that whole floating monument to commerce is a fleshlight with my name on it.

>>519311578
>>519310098 (OP)
We're not building shit to Alaska if we can't use it to travel with guns to our own states.
I'm sick of dealing with Canadian border crossings and their gun bans

>>519310098 (OP)
Its been considered before but the same problems always come up. You'd need to maintain thousands of miles of road/rail going through extremely inhospitable and undeveloped land just to connect very little, with each country's respective industrial areas being thousands more miles away

>>519320057
You should thank white americans daily for building it all.

>>519310098 (OP)
Larouche is smiling in heaven

>>519310098 (OP)
Good

>>519310098 (OP)
>edmonton mentioned
please tell me this is going to nuke our economy with more indians
Thats exactly what it needs more of
But these indians will speaking russian

>>519313910
Bro there are no train lines from Alaska to Canada or America.

>>519310098 (OP)
when the Tunnel is done you should come over and hang out with us rusbro

When you think about it, if they've been doing feasibility study for 6 months, then there's at least some benefits to the project that don't meet the eye, because at first glance it's connecting two bumfuck nowheres between countries that don't trade

>>519311631
>>519313910
How much value would it really add, though? Shipping is better for freight and air travel is better for moving passengers.

There's a reason this hasn't been done already: you'd be building thousands of miles of rail through some of the toughest terrain imaginable just to connect the arse end of nowhere to... well, the the arse end of nowhere but in Cyrillic. If there were major settlements in Alaska or Russia's far east then there might be a rationale; local traffic could supplement the limited amount of transcontinental traffic. But there aren't.

Sure, it would benefit Russia, because it would reroute American and Chinese trade through Russia. But would it actually connect European and Chinese producers better to American consumers, and vice versa? I mean, I'm not an expert in freight and railway building, but I seriously doubt rail could beat ships over that distance even on easy terrain, let alone Siberia.

Rail is generally only useful for transferring stuff from ports inland.

>>519320410
If the Canadians can do it so can the Russians

>>519314459
You know America would have built a train to Kamchatka 150 yrs ago just for the sake of it, I like you guys but c'mon wtf bro.

>>519322806
Six months? They've been talking about this since the 1890s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait_crossing

The benefit is that it would reroute international trade through Russia, making them money and giving them more diplomatic leverage. Or at least, Russia hopes it would. What would actually happen is that Chinese manufacturers will look at the rail fares, then send the stuff from Shanghai to San Diego by boat same as always at a fraction of the price, and most likely faster.

There are always plenty of think tanks being paid to find justifications for useless ideas that everyone knows would be a massive money sink but that are getting pushed by politicians with a loose grasp of practical realities (or just on an ego trip).

>>519322806
The tunnel is going to allow the USA-RU-CH to directly interact without boats and planes, it's going to warm us all up to each other because the future of humanity is controlled by these 3 nations.

It's going to allow cross nation industrial projects for rare resources and open up Siberia and possibly Alaskan/Canadian north for business in the long run.

>>519310098 (OP)
waste of time and money, why waste 100 billion building a tunnel from the middle of nowhere to the middle of nowhere. No one lives there and no one will use this tunnel EVER. take the money and build a spaceship together going to mars. good troll on tump though lmao

>>519318191
You are a retarded nigger kraut, you build infrastructure to make the wild places civilized, no one lived there at all except some innuits until both countries conquered, sent settlers to assert control and made paths to bring resources to the remote wilderness.
>hurr durr empty no point
America is a thing cause our ancestors built shit midwit

It’s a seismically active area

the Bering Strait region is seismically active (though not as extreme as the Aleutian arc), and a tunnel there could be built, but it would face real seismic-hazard risks that would require expensive, specialized engineering (fault-crossing design, flexible joints, monitoring, and contingency planning).
What the science says
Geologic and seismologic studies show the Bering Strait area is tectonically complex (a distinct “Bering” block, local faults, and distributed deformation) and is seismically active.
pubs.geoscienceworld.org
+1
Historical and modern earthquake catalogs report earthquakes up to about M5–M6 in the region and frequent smaller events; seismic swarms have also been recorded on the Chukotka (Russian) side and nearby Alaskan coast. That means ground shaking, occasional moderate quakes, and localized faulting are realistic hazards.
Earthquake Track
+1
Regional tectonic syntheses and fault maps name offshore/nearshore structures (e.g., Bering Strait Fault, Port Clarence Fault, Norton fault zone) that cross or lie near likely crossing corridors.
pangea.stanford.edu
+1
What that implies for a tunnel
Seismic shaking risk. Any undersea tunnel must be designed to survive expected ground accelerations and repeated shaking over decades. This is a solvable engineering problem but raises cost.
Fault-crossing risk. If the alignment crosses an active fault trace, sudden offset (meters in large events, or distributed shear) can rupture a tunnel. Mitigations exist (e.g., specially detailed “fault-crossing” joints, flexible segments, sacrificial sections, and above-grade relief structures) but they add complexity and maintenance burdens.

F— would not ride

INFRASTRUCTURE!? AAAAAA THAT MONEY COULD HAVE GONE TO ISRAEL AAAAAAAA IM GOING INSANE

>>519323295
ya there's fuck all out there, i think Petropavlovsk is the nearest settlement with a population >50k and that's 1300 miles to the south of where this tunnel would be as the crow flies.

This puts america in the position of having to protect siberia from china in the future, its an attempt to intertwine russia and american policy needs

>>519325068
Doesn’t matter you’d die a horrible death as the tunnel ruptures from a routine quake

Europe and the northeast are the white mans domain. No quakes no hurricanes no tornados no snakes. Just us and our books and tools and guns.

>>519313910
Track gauges are incompatible with each other.

>>519310098 (OP)
>and russia will pay for it.

- govt in shutdown.
- economy will crater as soon as AI bubble bursts.
I don't see it happening

>>519325281
Trivial compared to seismic issues

Me a pollack 60iq nigger was the first to point this out. Where are all the great Germanic scientists itt?

Pathetic

>>519311631
>fluid trade benefits almost everyone.
It benefits extremely wealthy internationalists and destroyed America and Europe while destroying culture everywhere.

>>519325434
I'd argue that the entire area is perma-frost (is the area under the bering strait perma-frost as well?) is a much larger issue to stability.

>>519311631
>actually would be a net gain for the world
we are a naval power you stupid fucking retard. this would, literally, collapse us

>>519325614
I’d argue I was the first to talk about practical engineering issues while you “white men” bickered about HR shit

Pathetic

>>519325479
You also get some pretty fucked trade imbalance that hurts even the little guys like me. I have maybe a $20k a year gross amazon business. The chinese have copied my products. It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't also cheating the system with fake reviews and other bullshit. They also get better deals on raw materials. Im doing this business out of my garage, with solar panels, and im barely able to compete on price. If it became an arms race, they might just beat me on price.

The old “commie” 4chan would discuss engineering issues starting on the 2nd or third post. Instead we got the inane drivel of local cop retards for 50 posts.

Pathetic

>>519325641
How? The tunnel would be directly under our control. There's literally no way it could be used to circumvent us.

Why don’t you let the real men handle real issues like engineering. You faghots can discuss skin tone with Stacy in HR.

>>519326334
This is an odd bot i must admit.

>>519326334
>Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!

>>519310098 (OP)
I do like it.
the white man marches on.

>>519313708
>where is this place?
>probably somewhere near Vladivostok
>let's check the map
>mfw it's actually 4300 kilometers away
>holy fuck the Russia is huge

>>519327353
>>holy fuck the Russia is huge
and yet NATO shills will still tell you that the Ukraine war is some kind of land grab.

>>519324692
Can't hear you over noices of digging. Meet you on other side.

>>519325798
You haven't really talked about anything. You've made the observation that the ground sometimes shakes as if this means no structures can ever be built, which is trite brownoid retardation befitting a people who with modern technology gifted to them from the divine intellect of the White mind have only ever managed to create an open sewer to live in.

>>519310098 (OP)
Why the fuck would a naval empire that made bank on controlling global sea trade invest into building a terrestrial alternative route?

>>519310098 (OP)
I'd donate to the construction of the tunnel if it goes straight through Seattle and Portland

>>519311578
Stfu retard this would be cool

>>519310098 (OP)
No

>>519320057
Kekfuel so you’re nonwhite?

>lets build an underwater tunnel on of the most seismically active regions
brilliant waste of money and embezzlement

>you can't be friends with russia!!!
>why not
>you just CAN'T, OKAY??!!!?

it's clear to me that left and far left are pro-china and want the US to be enemies with Russia. meanwhile, those on the farther right are questioning why we need to be at odds with Russia, or have fully accepted friendship with Rus as a better option than trading with china. then you have Trump in the middle playing both sides and the ukriane war dragging on.

>>519327682
Because land is fungible

>>519310098 (OP)
Use the UFOs we already have.

>>519317616
I get this reference!

they are avoiding Romania and the Iberian Peninsula in case the gypsies steal the copper. Smart project

>>519332210
lol

>>519331276
Russia's too White to allow you to like them

Also Jews are still mad about Rome and Russia's the last existing branch

do not like

>>519324702
werenot talking about wilderness
were talkign about fuckign siberia, you stupid russian nigger
why dont you build infrastucture in the fucking antarctic and wait if somehting happens
it wont
you stupid fuck

>>519311631
You'd be competing with North Korean slaves. Hope you like eating 1200 calories per day and living in a freezing cold shack because that's how they are treated. Also you'll probably die from an injury otherwise malnutrition and exhaustion in your 40s.

>>519332537
Go back to the trenches, hohol.

>>519332859
stop bumping your stupid thread, you russian niggers
noone gives a fuck about your siberian shithole tuinnel that will never happen

>>519325479
>More infrastructure is... le bad
My nigga the elites already won because they print money and spend it while contributing nothing to society
At least a tunnel doesn't hurt anyone by being there

>>519331621
>Because land is fungible
>fungible

>>519333072
a useless tunnel that nooen needs is typical government waste
learn economics
the costs would be enormous that could be used elsewhere much better

>>519332993
You can go to Poland and board train to Kiev, then visit a recruitment office and get sent to be blown up by artillery in some frozen ditch.
What are you waiting for? Your impotent seething here will not do anything.

>>519333204
apparently my seethign is enough to upset you and your stupid nigger thread
about a tunnel that will never happen, because its about the dumbest idea in history

>>519313648
>lets build a tunnel here
>there is nothign there?
>who cares, were russians and were known for being smart in economics
lol

how is this superior to container ships?

>>519333202
the costs are being used to mine crypto and high frequency trading algos swapping worthless shit between eachother on a computer you fucking retard
it literally cannot by the laws of physics get any worse than it is RIGHT NOW

>>519310098 (OP)
Just build the tunnel to Alaska in secret and use it to launch an invasion. You can steamroll Alaska with 10k Russian tanks and a million Chinese infantry.

>>519333640
Land travel is much safer and more reliable than sea travel. Yes, even in 2025.