Thread 519459527

the same people who told you to get the covid vaccine and that cutting off your dick makes you a woman also tell you that this piece of tinfoil protected people from thousands of degrees of temperature and chernobyl levels of radiation

trust the science topkek

Jannies finally woke up and 404'd your flat earth horseshit, so now you're back with another try?
You shills are terrified about backlash from Israel breaking the ceasefire, aren't you?

>>519459527 (OP)
nice, shills made the next identical thread to vomit their garbage out again!! the ride never ends.

>>519459757
>>519459836
stay mad globetards

>>519460101
keep lying king

>>519459527 (OP)
>>519460101
If you care so much about flat earth than why don't you sneak past the ice wall or raise enough money to build a rocket instead of wasting your time posting shitty bait threads on /POL/

>>519460445
because they dont really care about flat earth at all. its just to shit up the board.

>>519459527 (OP)
My now dead neighbor worked for Grumman on the lander and he would actually kill you if he was still alive and you said that to him.
He would've shot you dead on the spot

>>519460760
at least be thankful that Buzz Aldrin knocked that moonhoax nigger on his ass that one time. He did that for everyone involved, including your neighbor.

>>519460760
but anyway, thats very cool to know someone involved with the LM. did you ever watch an episode of From the Earth to the Moon called 'Spider"? was really nice dramatization of the years that Grumman worked on it. you might like it.

unvaccinated transphobe here and i believe in a round earth

>>519461003
>From the Earth to the Moon called 'Spider"?
oh yeah, I remember that from years ago, i should watch it again

>>519461124
its got a very nice feel to the episode. they really get across how much those guys committed and gave and cared. what did your neighbor work on exactly, did he tell you about it?

Stop associating moonhoax with flatearthers.
I don't believe that man went casualy to the moon 6 times only to lose all the technology 50 years latter.

>>519461716
>casualy
It was anything but casual, but you're a retard so no wonder you think that.
>only to lose all the technology 50 years latter
Also explained by the non-casual nature of the program.
In any case, with the demographic changes going on in the world electricity is going to be a lost technology in 50 years...

>>519461716
>i dont believe that an expensive nationally supported program wasn't repeated over and over again
>and i must misrepresent what one guy said once
it doesn't matter what you believe, because you're not being rational.

>>519462261
>demographic changes going on in the world electricity is going to be a lost technology in 50 years.
lol very true. look at south africa.

>>519462261
You act as if we didn't have massive technological advancements in the last 50 years. Only this one particular technology seems beyond impossible for our standards compared to 50 years ago.

>>519461716
because we have told you what it means to lose the technology over and over and you keep repeating this pilpul like the shill you are

tp rebuild a satrurn v rocket they would need to rebuild the factories, the machines, the supply chains, the factories that make the parts, the factories that make the parts for the machines that make the parts, the lost skills to man these now outdated machines and processes, etc etc. and at that point you should just build and design a new rocket, which they are doing. the space shuttle sucked

>>519462421
Americans are a lot fatter these days, that's why we didn't replace Concorde either.

>>519459527 (OP)
>thousands of degrees of temperature and chernobyl levels of radiation

Complete bollocks.

Go back to school and learn about space and radiation, faggot.

>>519462421
>Only this one particular technology
which one particular technology? highly custom manned moon landers? has there even been a demand for such a thing before the last few years, and which is now being worked on in an entirely new and larger form instead of just a barebones 2 man camping trip?

you cant look at something like the LM and refer to it as one kind of technology, thats entirely wrong headed

>Zero living creatures have survived deep space (1,200+ miles from Earth's surface) since allegedly 1972
We were supposed to be back on the moon by 2024 according to NASA who keeps pushing back the date for the launch, it's now set for 2026 but I guarantee it'll be pushed back again. NASA today explains that radiation is the biggest hurdle in human space travel.

According to these facts it's crazy anyone suggests humans made it to the moon and walked on the moon.
>b-but there's evidence on the moon that we walked there
if it does exist, it could have been dropped there by drones.

Elon said Mars by 2024.
NASA said Moon by 2024.
neither happened or even came close to happening. We don't even send up animals for testing.
>b-but we sent fe fi fum fo and phooey!
yeah and one died. the rest had brain lesions. that was in 1972. don't you think we'd send live animals to the moon to test? China did in 2020 with the Chang'e moon probe and the spiders died almost instantly (they were supposed to hatch and live on the moon for 100 days while being livestreamed).

>>519459527 (OP)
>thousands of degrees of temperature
answer this question
You have 2 iron balls
1st from a ball point pen
2nd is the size of a shot put
Warm them both up to 1000 degrees
throw them both into a small bowl of water
you can probably imagine the result
now answer how dense is outer space

>>519463716
yes but what about THE SEARING RADIATION HELL!!!!11??

>>519460920
Yeah, my first reaction whenever someone tells me to swear on a bible is to punch them in the face in public, totally normal reaction.

>>519462751
he is wrong about that but right about the manned missions being fake.
go back to school and learn about nitrocellulose film.
the videos were beamed back to earth but digital cameras did not exist back then, all still photos had to be taken with old school film.
you cant subject old school film to low pressures or the emulsion destabilizes and causes fogging in the final result.
since none of the apollo stills have fogging, we can conclude that none of them were subjected to the low pressures of the lunar surface
>NO THEY MADE SUPER DUPER SECRET SPECIAL FILM JUST FOR THE VACUUM OF SPACE
no they didnt. they used kodak ektachrome film, and kodak ektachrome film can not survive low pressures without fogging up the final pictures

>>519459527 (OP)
Relevant documentary: https://luogocomune.net/americanmoon

>>519459527 (OP)
>made of tinfoil
i know this is low effort baitposting but an unfortunate amount of people actually believe this

>>519464070
what about when you've spent your life landing war planes on aircraft carriers, then tested experimental aircraft, then flown into orbit on some of the first rockets to be man rated, earned a PHD in orbital mechanics then been to the moon, then some fat idiot lies about why he wants to interview you, follows you out into the street and calls you a liar and coward on camera?

i think one punch is the least he earned with all that shit. you try calling any veteran war pilot a coward in the street and see what happens.

>>519464070
and several astros did swear on the Bible. guess what - schizo sibrel still called them liars and cowards. you cant win with such people.

>>519464330
if you tried to walk up to that thing with a measuring tape you would be arrested
they dont want you to realize that neil armstrong in a spacesuit could not fit through that hole lol

>>519460760
Sounds like a really insecure Freemason who is mad his shitty 1960s trick is up

>>519464230
They did use "super duper film"
Kodak special thin-based and thin emulsion double-perforated 70 mm film

>>519462826
Great video of John Young on Apollo 16
You can use it to determine the acceleration due to gravity because it's a vertical jump, we have a stationary camera and a known value for his height (thus giving us a scale for the jump height)
It turns out it's 1.6 m/s^2, exactly as expected for being on the moon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMHLvoWZfqQ&t=2719s

>>519464230
>nitrocellulose film.
go learn about the specialist film they used.
>no no no it wasnt special
yes it was. it was several times thinner than regular film and designed to be fine under such conditions
>wah wah no no no
yes yes yes.

>>519464415
you're brown

>>519464516
>thin emulsion
still an emulsion. you cant put it through low pressure cycles without messing up the photos

>>519464327
nigger are you confused by remote controll?
something that existed before ww2?

>>519464531
>designed to be fine under such conditions
no it wasnt. you guys will believe anything

>>519464415
you can find all the dimensions published in the material and figure out yourself.

>>519464516
exactly, thanks for remembering because i couldnt

>>519464547
>kikes didnt control america in 1969!

>>519464396
Yep Al Bean (4th on the moon) swore on it to entertain that retard

>>519460920
Someone post the webm of Trump talking and buzz emoting behind him.

>>519464565
>low pressure cycles
what do you mean? aulis?

>>519464624
>you can find all the dimensions published in the material and figure out yourself.
or i could look at the ACTUAL craft in the smithsonian and measure it myself, and realize it is too small for neil armstrong in a spacesuit to fit in that hole

>>519464651
kek

>>519464620
yes, it was. dont trust those lying aulis retards.

>>519464655
i think john young and edgar mitchell did too. at least one of them

>>519459757
>t. seething globetard

>>519464684
on earth we have 14 pounds of pressure per square inch
that films emulsion was made in a factory under those same pressures
get rid of the pressure and it will destabilize, the final photos will now have "fogging"
you never developed photos in your life and it shows

>>519464672
never saw that? what is it?

>>519464702
ok, do that. get back to me with the evidence. BLOW THE CONSPIRACY WIDE OPEN!!!11

>>519464763
also the apollo eleven launch video taken by an independent source proves it wasnt going fast enough

>>519464795
how about film designed to not do that? i guess thats impossible. everyone is in on the conspiracy to hide the fake film!!!11

Hahaha! Can't win at arguing? Answer: shoot opponent dead.

Neanderthal.

>>519464866
>the apollo eleven launch video taken by an independent source proves it wasnt going fast enough
I love how the retards will just spout off things as if they are facts with zero evidence of their claim
And then the other retards will read it, accept it as gospel truth, and repeat it without a single shred of critical thought

>>519464866
>getting into orbit is fake too!!!1
>we're super sleuths and notice things no one else does!!
>we're so smart!!
you people are embarrassing.

>>519464702
"hole" you mean he main hatch?
32 inches by 32 inches is too small?
since when?

>>519464958
>>519465005
>>519465018
hart cellar passed in 1965, so white ingenuity had already fallen to marxist subversion
white ingenuity is what allows us to see the fraudulent claims from NASA
fraudulent claim number one, the F-1 rocket had 600 tons of thrust
they never let other whites verify this number, and now we cant even build a new one because we forgot. the obvious conclusion is that a 1 for 1 reproduction engine would fall very short of the 600 tons of thrust, an absurd claim
fraudulent claim number 2, the apollo 11 saturn V rocket was 25 kilometers in the air just 100 seconds after launch
phil polacia was a white man who filmed an unbroken shot of apollo 11 taking off, and 100 seconds after the launch it clearly punches a hole through a cirrus cloud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BZotXmZDIE
cirrus clouds topped out at 12 km that day, half the height that NASA was claiming the rocket should already be.....the rocket was moving too slow to go to the moon, thats why all the videos of the launch that come from NASA very carefully omit the stuff you see in phil polacias independent recording

>>519464597
it was on a timed mechanism. Flawless cinematography from Armstrong

>>519464958
I believe him, I havent researched it at all but you being mad makes me think you're jewish and coping. If history has taught us anything its that the government is always wrong or lying

>>519459527 (OP)
it was literally tin foil, gold foil, PVC tube, and construction paper.
Also it was done in a hangar in Area 51 with cement powder on the floor and black cloth draped over the walls and hollywood cameras.

>>519461716
>casually
Stupid monkeynigger. Do not even try and discuss things you don't understand. Go back to building favelas.

>>519464597
> remote control
add it to the list

>>519465130
It really is a meth head's tree fort

>>519465005
It's the paradox of the conspiratard

"They" are all-knowing, all-powerful, and able to keep millions of people silent for decades, alter physical evidence, and hide "the truth" from literally billions of people
"They" are also so incompetent that they can't get basic things right like "forgetting stars in a moon photo" or "the hatch is too small"

>>519462421
It's not beyond impossible dipshit, it's just that they don't care enough to pursue another Lunar program at a pace that matches Apollo. Your "muh impossible technology" argument is proven wrong by the SLS, Starship and Orion, but if you don't believe Apollo happened why would you believe any of these other ones?

>>519465018
a modern american wouldn't fit through it

>>519462826

Dam. bots are now posting MP4s of moon hoax videos?
Dang ole bot handlers need to get their bots straight...
uber rare flag, but its a bot running under a VPN by someone who has a 4chan gold account so they can run bots on /pol/

>>519464895
Glow nigger magic

>>519465098
Nope operated by a guy back on earth trying to get the timing tight
Also this was atempted only on apollo 15,16,17 the ones that had the rover which had the camera on it
15 got stuck
16 he fucked up the timing
17 he got it right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLlt9ZdCAfU

AHAHAHAHAHAH

>>519465406
a modern American would weight on the moon more than Armstrong did on earth

>>519459527 (OP)
Science is really. That doesn't Mena fake and gay staged events for money laundering happened.

Also libricks daughter released a video after his death, where he said "his friend" faked the moon landing. To avoid her being killed.

>>519465266
list of what

>>519464230
There's also the fact they claimed to have taken high quality full color video. OOPS nasa wiped them, so for humanity's greatest achievement, all we get is a 1960s black and white TV broadcast.

LMAO

>>519465615
a list of women, of Sugandese origin

>>519464527
>Great video of John Young on Apollo 16
>You can use it to determine the acceleration due to gravity because it's a vertical jump, we have a stationary camera and a known value for his height (thus giving us a scale for the jump height)
>It turns out it's 1.6 m/s^2, exactly as expected for being on the moon.

Sure.... i believe you. (this is what we call sarcasm)

>>519459527 (OP)
EXACTLY.
Anyone who took the vaccine and believes in space exploration is the lowest level subhuman we have today.
Total mental illness, blind faith, and fear of rejection. Their God is peer pressure.

>>519465361
We never went. Nukes are a psyop. Titanic was sank to create the federal reserve. It wasn't even the titanic, it was the older Olympic. 911 was partially done so jews wouldn't have to lay 150% the construction cost to remove the asbestos.


Please tell me how literal cannibal baby rapist Jews wouldn't lie to you about these specific things.

>>519459757
>>519459836
I love seeing you people so upset and vaccinated at the same time.

You took experimental vaccines on blind faith.
And you believe in space exploration pseuoscience.
None of you even know your globe "evidence" enough to discuss it. None of you even know how many wobbles the globe has.

>>519465687
>Sure.... i believe you
Here we see the conspiratard in action
When confronted with facts and data that runs counter to their pre-selected belief, they simply reject the data and gish-gallop to another topic
They do not look at evidence, they just continue in their religious belief in the conspiracy.

They are cultists.

>>519464527
You can also see how the lunar dust disperses exactly as you'd expect in a low-gravity, airless environment. So either they drew each frame of the hundreds of hours of Apollo footage by hand in a way such that it can't be later disproven with methods such as yours, they built an exact replica of the lunar environment and hid all the studio equipment in every single shot and sucked all the air out and made the entire studio into an elevator that accelerated at exactly 1.6g, or they went to the Moon. It doesn't matter how much evidence you show them, they will just keep saying "it doesn't count because I wasn't there" or resort to "it doesn't look real so I don't believe it". This is what all FE/Moonhoax arguments fall back to, every time.

Schooling Globers - Episode 34 (The Core of the Globe Belief)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTIFsHH5i6U

The Earth is NOT Flat After All
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2YMZMOjz-c

Relatively Speaking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIyGmw2iM1I

Middle Ground
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_7XkneVE7Y&list=PLoeKBeKeoPx5quWw74GYIJjVQY4hAxbkf

>>519465630
Nope
SSTV is still black and white and only SSTV on apollo 11 is missing
14,15,16,17 all collored just like your absentee father

>>519465746
I agree, the experts should be trusted. Why would the government lie to us? it makes no sense. Let's get off 4chan and back to work.

>>519465847
>This is what all FE/Moonhoax arguments fall back to, every time.
It's one of the five hallmarks of a science denier
They demand impossible standards for evidence against their position, but blindly accept anything that confirms their belief

>>519465959
>>519465847
wrong reply

>>519465847
lol you've never been to low gravity or interacted with moon dust and no one here ever has or ever will. so you're proving it with another fanfic that can't be proven. it's like saying "santa is real because i saw him with elves at the mall do you really think the elves are in on it too?"

>>519465847
>built an exact replica of the lunar environment and hid all the studio equipment in every single shot and sucked all the air out and made the entire studio into an elevator that accelerated at exactly 1.6g
Common, none of this crap is necessary to make a video pretending to be on the moon.
If Hollywood made a movie about the man on Mars you'd believe in a heartbeat.

>>519465934
Phone calls to THE MOON
HAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>>519465708
>Anyone who took the vaccine and believes in space exploration is the lowest level subhuman we have today.
>Total mental illness, blind faith, and fear of rejection. Their God is peer pressure.

>>519465746
Kikes lie about a lot of things but the Moon landings are undeniable fact.

>>519465746
>Titanic was sank to create the federal reserve. It wasn't even the titanic, it was the older Olympic.

>>519463607
When they go to the Moon you're just going to say it's a fake video, nobody can convince you people of anything. You're trapped in a reality of your own making.

>>519465995
no flat earther wants "impossible standards" how about you take one of the ten thousand satellites in space and show us a real livestream? or how about ONE rocket launch where it doesn't cut and change cameras every 20 seconds like a hollywood action movie?

Isn't it kinda *strange* how the "redpilled" individuals here never question the existence of internet at all?

>>519466049
I love when stats don't lie

>>519462544
Lemme know when the first black lesbo walks on the moon.

>>519466037
And what obstruction do you believe exiss btween sending a signal and it reaching the moon?
vacuum?

>>519466142
why don't we send animals to deep space? certainly sending a human is too risky since we keep pushing back the date for future moon missions.
>they go to the Moon you're just going to say it's a fake video
China was supposed to live stream a spider's lifecycle from the moon in 2020 but it died.

>>519466157
Why?
You'll just reject it as still not being enough

>>519466142
you're the one that is literally not living in reality, you're talking about the future which is a hypothetical that doesn't exist. right now as we speak, we haven't sent a human back to the moon since 1972. we haven't even sent a human back 1/1000th of the distance to the moon. you sound like a child, hoping one day you'll be vindicated. you have BLIND FAITH in the government to be honest, don't you see the problem?

>>519465496
Double kek

>>519466162
>>519466157
Why do you guys insist on lumping Moonhoax deniers with whichever groups that you deslike?

>>519466205
The vacuum is secret society pseudoscience.
Space exploration is as well.

Model references, assumed calculations, and unproven theories don't count as empirical evidence.

>>519465649
Can moonfags explain why this looks like a miniature on a string?

>>519466302
why not? there's ten thousand satellites in orbit, wouldn't ever human on earth love to watch that? it would be cool right? but it doesn't exist. at the end of the day ive measured earth and it's not curving, so you're right that you BELIEVE it's a globe but i KNOW it's flat

>>519466356
because in anonymity they try to proscribe things to people which provoke emotional or pre-conceived responses in people either consciously or unconsciously and is a way to manipulate them and for the accuser to seem as the rational person. some newfag glownigger probably doing the basic shit

>>519466010
Doesn't matter. Physics doesn't depend on personal experience. We understand gravity and we know how vacuums work. We have gravity on Earth and we can create near vacuum environments. Thus we can apply the claimed 1.6G and known vacuum physics on the Apollo footage and see that dust trajectories and jump arcs match exactly to known physics.

>>519466324
I should add
>we also haven't even sent an animal beyond 1,200miles from Earth and had it survive
>the moon is 240,000miles away at closest orbit

>>519466374
no they can't, they will legitimately say "what looks weird about that?" as though it's not OBVIOUSLY hoaxed

>>519466364
Ah you are one of those people
Answer me this question
is F=m*a real

Japan played pretend in April 2023 with this dumb donkey shit. It looks like the back of a Sega CD game box art. Complete with the women on a green screen, while simultaneously claiming she's on the ISS.
People who think this is real and defend it are mentally ill.

>>519466026
>none of this crap is necessary to make a video pretending to be on the moon.
Then why did they go that far then? >>519464527

>right now as we speak, we haven't sent a human back to the moon since 1972. we haven't even sent a human back 1/1000th of the distance to the moon
The last test flight of a rigid airship was in 1970s with the Aereon 26
Therefore the Hindenburg never existed

That is how retarded their logic is

>>519465050
>F1 cant so that powerful
why not? raptor v2 gives 230tons and they are tiny and mass produced. imagine doubting what motivated and well funded germans can do.
>and 100 seconds after the launch it clearly punches a hole through a cirrus cloud
i'll bet it doesn't.

>>519465294
its really interesting isn't it. it comes down to them thinking themselves so smart for noticing things without being aware that they are noticing some of the most retarded obvious things around. the self deception and lack of awareness is impressive.

>>519466458
flat earthers are doing you a favor letting you know they lied to us all growing up and every government of the world is evil and complicit. you just can't believe it because you're dumb and naive

>>519459527 (OP)
Don't forget about your foreskin.

>>519466549
stop crying, is it your first day or something?

>>519466503
Modern space mission history is rife with fraud and failure and yet we supposedly sent people and animals just fine from 1968 to 1972.
The animals suffered brain lesions and one died.

Man you fuck faces remind me about how I use to talk to old college friends until I was blue I the face about building 7

>>519466501
You need real empirical evidence if you expect people to believe in space exploration. It's too stupid to even defend.
Go learn how many wobbles the globe has.

>>519465440
technology designed by smart white people.

>>519465819
i love seeing shills constantly trying to associate being against the vaxx with retarded crap like moonhoax and flat earth. you guys couldn't be more obvious.

>>519466466
This was shoot in space according to you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUFCArwH2Jc

>>519466549
oh wait, Im on your side, sorry Im stoned, did you wrong reply too?

>>519466356
OY VEY GOY WHY YOU BEHAVE LIKE THAT

>>519466260
>certainly sending a human is too risky since we keep pushing back the date for future moon missions.
Dates keep getting pushed back because Artemis is not a serious space program and all of the contractors are behind on schedule. Artemis II is planned to launch early next year which will take humans around the Moon and back. But what's the point in pointing all this out, because you don't believe it anyway?

>>519466503
>while simultaneously claiming she's on the ISS.
You are lying about this though.

The same people who tell you the Moon landing didn't happen and that vaccines will kill everyone in two more weeks are also kissless virgins living in their mom's basement.

>>519466466
"we understand gravity" uhh 96% of the known universe is dark matter or dark energy which is impossible to interact with and measure but is responsible for all the invisible mass that needs to be here for the numbers to even work. you say "we" as though you understand any of it, when in reality you probably aren't able to even explain what the bending and warping of space time even means. even newton didn't believe in gravity in his own principia lol

>>519466628
And that's when they realized they can't get an organism up that high and have it survive. The perfect psy-op. Russia practiced faking "orbit", and USA practiced the light show of taking off and landing.
The average person doesn't even know secret societies control it.

>>519466540
we OBJECTIVELY have not sent a human being 0.1% of the distance to the moon since 1972

>>519460760
>my extreme emotional reaction makes it real
I'd cave your fucking neighbors head in for being a compartmentalized best goy if he thinks we did go to the moon.

I guess that makes me right.

>>519466541
It's not just "noticing" things, it's noticing them and then immediately jumping to ridiculous conclusions with no deeper investigation

Like the whole "thermosphere has temperature of 2,000C+" bullshit they spout
Yes, that's a true fact, the gases in the thermosphere are moving very fast
But they don't stop to understand that temperature is just one aspect of heat transfer, and that 10 particles at 2,000C is a lot less thermal energy than 10 billion at 200C

But they don't go to that level of understanding
They read the meme, accept what they think it says, and then blindly repeat it forever as confirmation they're right

>>519465907
but i can look at the sun with eclipse glasses (they also cut glare so you can see the actual size of the sun) and it stays the same size in the sky all day. on a flat earth the sun moving overhead would shrink in my vision as it moved further away.

>>519466698
>we send people to the moon so people will believe it, and no other reason
>we totally didn't just fake it
ok bro.
>>519466742
Russia faked the holocaust so they let USA fake the moon landing. All of the non-Allies investigated "jew camps" were "death camps" but all of the ones the Allies got to inspect were work camps. lol ya ok. Russia is a fraud and so is USA.

>>519466797
at the end of the day the only discussion about flat earth should be about how they said earth was a globe curving at 8 inches per mile squared and it's not because they lied. you can prove the globe is a lie because we see 20x too far. it's as simple as that

>>519466639
so no answering the question then

>>519466644
Space exploration is a fake secret soceity psy-op.
The covid vaccine is zero liability, and anyone can refuse for lack of informed consent.

In both cases, the people who fall for it use only blind faith and peer pressure.
This is why you didn't bother to learn what zero liability meant. Same reason why people struggle to defend masonic boot lickers.

>>519466700
Go watch the live video. Denial only shows off how intellectually dishonest you are.

>>519466831
Perspective errors don't count as empirical evidence you dumb donkey.

>>519459527 (OP)
>the same people
Uh, no. What were the names of the people in each case, because I'm 1000% sure they weren't the same people.

>>519466503
>while simultaneously claiming she's on the ISS.
So you are just resorting to outright lies now?
I mean, I know you do nothing but lie, but this one is bald-faced and easily disproven

>>519466356
24/7 for over a year now a professional shill team has been raiding us with flat earth shit. don't play dumb. this thread is already full of flat earth posts and you are still acting innocent. fuck off. you even use the exact same arguments the flatters use "muh we lost the technology" no matter how many times thats been explained already itt

>>519466698
>Artemis II is planned to launch early next year which will take humans around the Moon and back.
im really looking forward that. lets hope they stick to the schedule. an apollo 8 style flight would be great.

>>519466797
>t's noticing them and then immediately jumping to ridiculous conclusions with no deeper investigation
it is yes. they assume that their initial thoughts are the last word on the matter and then spend the rest of their lives defending it. its another sign of the hideous arrogance that marks these kinds of people.
>temperature in vacuum
yep, run into that one all the time.

>>519467011
Nobody is denying she's in front of a green screen. You are lying about them claiming she's on the ISS.

>>519467111
satanic inversion of reality as this faggot globe shill tries to attack people waking up the globe lie

>>519466364
you don't need a barrier, you just need a force. the force holding the air in is gravity. which of course you will say is fake.

>>519466924
I can't wait for the fake alien contact. I'll be the first one to be called a
>CONTACT DENIER
holocaust denier
anti-vax
on and on.
At no point will the dumbed down cattle take responsibility for their intellectual dishonesty. It's pure entertainment every day.

>>519459527 (OP)
Who made this sun dial?

>>519466356
Because when they went to the moon, there were amateur radio operators around the world who were able to actually track the rocket for the whole journey. Amateur Radio was the internet of its day and people knew how to use it.
It's like denying the facts of something we all watched on Livestream when it happened.

>>519467111
nigger nigger nigger nigger shut your kike mouth

>>519467111
/pol/ has been non-stop filled with spamming shills the past 4-5 days
There's a cat mutilation video, furry porn, that "Trump is dead" thing from last night, and dozens more

I can only figure it's Israel's disregard of the ceasefire that's causing them to amp up the shilling so hard

>>519466949
there is not the slightest connection between these two things and only schizos think they see such a connection. they lack the ability to look at things on their own merits because their brains want to cast everything into one gigantic whole. literally unable to see the trees for the forest.

>>519467111
yeah, and its been quite intense the last little while.

>>519467205
but if aliens aren't real then HOW did we cut this grass on earth or make a big triangle

>>519466414
the horizon dips below eye level. anyone can measure that, it's curvature

>>519466374
>this looks like a minurature on a string!
Yeah, you're retarded and lying.

>>519459527 (OP)
>the same people
bro doesn't know the difference between science and religion

>>519467212
aliens that needed a clock in case their space ship clock broke down

>>519467200
The unproven theory of gravity does not count as empirical evidence of a force.
You need real empirical evidence if you expect people to believe it. That's the issue. Space exploration science is rejected for lack of empirical evidence.
People who take the time to learn the "evidence" come to this conclusion, or they lie to fit in with the cattle of society.

>>519467292
oh yeah guys look at this water bottle on a plane and my government premade flatearth.ws link, it's a globe now!

you don't see curvature even 5x higher than a plane

>Myth Busters proved there's a retroreflector (that was totally dropped by humans not a drone) on the Moon by bouncing a laser off the highly-reflective Moon's surface
>this proves humans went to the moon
that was their big finale

>lets have 3 years of back to back to back missions on the moon, easy fucking peasy lemon squeezy
>ok enough, let's destroy all the technology to make sure our grandkids have no fucking clue how to go back.

>>519467432
>the tv proved the tv is real with their tv episode

>>519466549
we know the government lies and the world is evil and corrupt and we don't want to be lumped in with flat earth retards when we speak of such. you know its round shill, you are trying to lump us in with flat earth retards.

>you don't see curvature even 5x higher than a plane
The sad part is, I know this leaf retard has seen these pictures before
He's either a literal paid shill, or he's mentally retarded

>>519467443
also in the final mission we'll send 5 mice with the stated goal of "determining if cosmic radiation is dangerous" and one died and all of them had brain and liver lesions

maybe cosmic radiation is only dangerous to mice not humans...XD

>>519467443
>50 years later
>NASAs daily budget has been $70000000 every day of every week of every month of every year
>we haven't sent a human back even 0.1% of the distance to the moon

people believe this shit?

>>519466655
Holy shit that looks identical to all the resent iss videos

>>519465934
Yes they fucking lost it you dipshit.
>>519467432
What about the fact that the moon already naturally reflects laser light?

Mythbusters got a lot of people interested in science, but there are several experiments that are pure bullshit made to push a narrative. They are good for blowing things up and getting kids interested in science, nothing more.

>>519467511
you know the government lies and is evil and corrupt but.. not the government space agencies? ever heard of cognitive dissonance?

>>519467052
sure let's talk about perspective

>>519467522
The flat earth modus operandi is pretending they never heard any counterargument before

>>519467597
just to add to this: we don't even send animals outside of Low Earth Orbit. strange because LEO missions for animals are much cheaper/safer.
>>519467639
No shit. They bounced the laser off of the moon's highly reflective surface and claimed they bounced it off a reflector that HAD to be put there by humans. it's a joke.

>>519467190
the satanic inversion of reality is this flat earth shit

>>519467064
Jews in media.

>>519467696
Oh Jesus, it's scary how well that quote fits with the attitude of the /pol/ conspiratard

>>519467419
test it yourself then, anyone can

>>519466721
Dark energy has nothing to do with gravity. Gravity is a basic and well-understood phsyical phenomenon. Even if you don't believe in gravity, you can't deny the constant accelerational force on everything on Earth. Long before the Moon landings, they knew the Moon's gravity was 0.16G, (or at least they "claimed" so, if you want to be satisfied), and the fact that all of the Apollo footage is 100% consistent with 1.622 m/s of accelerational force, further proves that they went to the Moon.

>>519467696
your entire everything is built upon the globe lie, you would never even consider it; it means nothing to me, I dont even go outside. it's flat nigger.

>>519467769
no it's literally you coming trying to invert what i said lol. there's a reason they worship apollo and the sun and it's all satanic

>>519460760
Mr. Dale?

>>519467384
drop an apple
it falls
empirical evidence of a force right there. call that force whatever you want, the rest of us call it gravity

>>519459527 (OP)
Do you really think they would show the actual design/material? They were in a space race/cold War. They'd never allow that kind of info out there

>>519467670
>retarded jeet cant understand 1 point perspective and equates an plane on the horizon to an object 93 million miles away.
get flushed, turd-worlder.

>>519464597
How did they recover the video tape? Was it livestreamed too?

>>519467848
there is no constant acceleration on earth at all and it's incredibly easy to prove that LITERALLY everything you think gravity does is happening because of density and buoyancy, it's the reason some things go down, it's the reason some things go up, it's as simple as that

>>519466635
two planes
three buildings

>>519467651
nobody lied to my eyes when i looked up

>>519467889
sure let's talk about the sun
you can monitor the sunspots yourself easily at home too

>>519468032
you're as blind as a bat nigger

>>519467991
>muh buoyancy

>>519467798
Jews in Media have been denying the Moon Landings since they were still going on.

>>519467991
>muh density

>>519467979
>Was it livestreamed too?
Well, we called it "Television" but yes, it was transmitted live to Earth from the Lunar Rover

>>519467991
>muh density durrr

>>519467559
which mission was that?

>>519467736
>the moon's highly reflective surface
it can be done, but the signal is weak and imprecise due to scattering on the surface. the retros give a much strong and more consistent return.
>no its all fake and cant go to the telescopes and watch and if i could it would be fake anyway etc etc etc

>>519467991
yes, there really is. really really.

>>519468261
and your foreskin, there was a refund available?

>>519468261
Remember the phonecall from the Moon with the 3 second delay that didn't seem to exist? So much for math and science.

>>519468032
yeah how about if we're discussing earth we discuss looking down? and out? they said it's curving and you shouldn't be able to see more than 3 miles when you're standing up, but you can easily see 20x farther than that on lakes or beaches or anywhere long and flat. it's that simple. your constant redirection towards space, the sun, the moon, and things that are irrelevant to "is earth curving" shows that you're simply a detractor.

no normal person has a folder full of flatearth.ws memes to try to keep people convinced they're on a globe, why? the average person already believes that anyway

>>519467798
Jewish Media has always claimed the moon landing was a hoax

>>519468358
>3 second delay that didn't seem to exist
Are you willfully lying, or just misinformed?

Actual uncut footage of the call, including a clear 7 second delay after Nixon stops and Neil begins
https://youtu.be/VLyJ9FHDO-c?t=104
Because it was recorded on Earth, there is no corresponding delay when Nixon starts talking again
Anybody who's spoken on a Zoom call knows this delay

you can watch the sun set twice using a drone because the earth is round

>>519467837
No. The /pol/ "Conspiratard" doesn't pretend they've never heard your shitty arguments before, they ignore them because they've been debunked so many times already.

>>519468375
It's more like the jewish media subetly exposes the truth to the public

>>519468320
Apollo 17 - read here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fe,_Fi,_Fo,_Fum,_and_Phooey
>>519468320
>it can be done, but the signal is weak and imprecise due to scattering on the surface. the retros give a much strong and more consistent return.
The moon has high reflectivity that responds to a laser no matter where the laser is directed. This is silly. Lasers aren't prone to scattering. Also hitting a reflector from Earth would require precise timing which wasn't discussed.
>>519468429
throughout the phonecall the delay is next to nothing.

>>519468446
this is LITERALLY how flat earth works because you can't see the sun anymore because it's too far from you on our flat earth but a higher elevation let's you see farther. it's incredibly obvious why and how this works on a flat plane if you understand sunsets

>>519468369
>how can i see so far it doesnt make sense
it does. especially over a body of water since the water cools that layer of air making it more optically dense for refraction.

but you know its round dont you shill

>>519468524
So which is it, the Jews are subtlely revealing the truth and therefore mrna vaccines are good? Or they're deliberately sewing confusion as Jews do?

>>519459527 (OP)
Most people don't even understand how their phone, computer or car works. They live in a world of magic and they believe any bullshit a man dressed as one of these wizards tells them.

>>519468588
except when you look up how much refraction should allow you to see beyond the curve it's 7%, meaning instead of 3 miles we could see 3.2 miles, im talking about 2000% beyond the curve, easily. how is that possible?

should it be possible on a globe to put a laser and camera 6 inches above the water and easily see the sand on the shore across a 28.6 mile lake?

>>519459527 (OP)
i used to be a moon truther... but i think we have to give it a rest given that the story is that they did SIX times with video. if you were going to fake it you would settle for once or twice, no? there was no propaganda value by the 3rd or 4th landing and everyone was bored and not paying attention. so why would they have kept up the production past that point?

>>519468535
>The moon has high reflectivity that responds to a laser no matter where the laser is directed.
yes, but because the beam spreads to something like 7km by the time it reaches the moon, and because the moon has a fairly varied surface topography, the returning photons can come from all kinds of different altitudes. that leads to imprecision. the retros give solid returns from a single point. see how thats better?
> Lasers aren't prone to scattering
of course they are. photons are photons.
>Also hitting a reflector from Earth would require precise timing which wasn't discussed.
they know where they are and what they do to acquire them is to scan just ahead to kind of lead it like with a shotgun, aiming for where you want it to hit a couple second later as things move.

>>519468569
except the sun disappears bottom first over the horizon. without shrinking off into the distance (remains the same size every day, check with eclipse glasses to cut glare and see the size of the sun). and the light from the sun would vanish first you would still see the sun itself even at night, at least for a time, on a flat earth same as you can see any bright light at a distance even when its too far away to light the ground around you.

>>519468569
nope

>>519468786
let's assume a retroreflector is on the moon
does this prove humans went there and placed it?

>>519460646
>its just to shit up the board
A board full of skanks, bots and trannys.
It is alrdy trash.

>>519468786
the reflector thing isn't an argument for HUMAN moon landings anyway. not worth even debating for either side.

>>519468782
>im talking about 2000% beyond the curve, easily. how is that possible?
no you're not.

>>519468782
>7%
bullshit

>>519468569
>you can't see the sun anymore because it's too far from you on our flat earth but a higher elevation let's you see farther
Two contradictory statements right next to each other
If the sun is too far away, increasing your altitude would increase the distance to the sun, thus making it shrink, not increase in size

I've rarely seen such a huge contradiction so soon after the statements

>>519468783
everything disappears bottom first when you're observing it via a lens like your eyes or a camera so that's irrelevant to globe vs flat

btw you can use a solar filter and count the pixels on the sun changing size and multiple people have done it

you cannot see the sun from anywhere on earth because you see through a cone of vision and your eye can't see forever

Why is it mostly Canadian niggers trying to refute the group?

>>519468966
Canadian VPNs are cheap and readily available to Israeli and Chinese shills pushing their flat earth well poisoning

>>519468862
>>519468876
no, and i never claim that it does. but do keep in mind that theres zerp evidence for the US using remote probes back then, and also that the remotely placed retros from the USSR were badly aligned compared to the US ones. they couldn't be found for many years and never give as good returns.

>>519459527 (OP)
people who deny the moon landing arent even worth breathing. the "it didnt happen" was created by communist intelligence services because they had to cope because the ussr was a dumpster fire and was in full collapse during the time usa was putting people on the moon. thats all there is to it.

Kikes mad the goyim know that the moon landing is fake, so they are well poisoning with flat earth bullshit.

The only thing kikes can do is well poison or call you schizo.

>>519469030
if sending probes is so hard, why is sending humans and animals so easy (but only from 1968-1972)

>>519468886
yes i am, from 6 inches elevation the PHYSICAL horizon MUST be 0.95 miles away according to the rate at which the globe curves. do you agree it should be impossible to see across a 28.6 mile lake from a 6 inch elevation even with max refraction? (7%)

>>519468947
>count the pixels on the sun changing size
a slight distortion near the horizon when the suns light is travelling through the thickest part of atmosphere you mean? thats not the sun shrinking off into the distance.

at noon the sun should be largest because thats when its closest to me. what the fuck do you mean counting pixels stfu it would be noticeably larger. and with eclipse glasses to cut the glare it isnt.

>>519459757
He didn't say anything about flat earth, you fucking tard.

>>519468947
>everything disappears bottom first when you're observing it
oh right, like your famous coin on the table experiment "proves"

>>519469307
no that's just how eyes work but nice desperate strawman

>>519469135
>max refraction 7%
prove it

>>519469383
prove it

>>519469302
don't pretend this thread wasn't posted by a flat earth shill raid with the express purpose of filling it with flat earth retards like every other space thread posted here. we have seen the pattern too many times. they are at it 24/7

>>519469436
>>519469398
it says 20% now so ill grant you 20%

FACT: on a 3959 mile radius sphere the physical horizon would be 0.95 miles away

FACT: +20% that's 1.14 miles

so that's where it should start to obscure the bottom of objects that are "beyond the curve of the earth". it should be impossible to see the bottoms of objects at around this distance, right?

>>519469655
space is fake and gay, why are you so invested in it? I get it star wars was good but grow up

>>519469691
sorry my horizon calculations are based off a 6 inch elevation BTW

>>519469030
>the remotely placed retros from the USSR were badly aligned compared to the US ones
that doesn't mean diddly squat and you know it. perhaps the US had way better technology? also, i am not claiming that (all) the moon landings were faked anyway like i said in my first post. but there are endless oddities with the moon landing business that never get properly explained. instead moon landing maximalists tend to quickly revert to "lel, do you believe in flat earth too?" total cop out type of responses.

>>519469726
it's his job

>>519469726
>space is fake and gay,
source? it seems real and superstraight when i look up at the sky at night.

>>519469842
nobody is saying the lights in the sky are fake, but nobody has been there, nobody knows what they're made out of etc

>>519469383
eyes see objects to be the same size regardless of distance to the observer?

>>519469900
I can see Jupiter and its moons with a telescope and see clearly a sphere surrounded by four smaller satellites.
>but nobody has been there, nobody knows what they're made out of etc
We have, but it doesn't matter to you because you'll just keep calling it fake when it's not what you want to hear.

>>519469302
This thread got posted literally minutes after this one got 404'd
Go fuck yourself

>>519469691
its talking about standard refraction. thats always built in because air is almost always more dense as you get lower to the surface. extreme conditions can extend it. and then 'ducts' can form which reflect light between two layers like a waveguide.

you will not want to accept any of this buts thats maybe because you just dont know much about it so it seems fantastically and mysterious.

>>519469766
>that doesn't mean diddly squat and you know it. perhaps the US had way better technology?
its at least a sign that remote deposited retros were not as precise. there is also zero evidence of a program to build such probes by the US. none.
> there are endless oddities with the moon landing business that never get properly explained
no, there aren't anon. really. what do you think is the best example of this?

>>519470062
tends to happen when you keep posting the same one over and over and over again. start one in /x/. they can last for weeks over there

>>519470012
ok and? you see a light in the sky with other lights in the sky around it? me too, that doesn't mean we're flying through an infinite void of nothingness. constellations never change, polaris never moves, we're obviously motionless. the lights you observe are just that

>>519469655
The day you sit down and realize NASA was founded by freemasonry and it’s a government entity is the day you begin to realize that maybe just maybe you got lied to about the state of things. I mean the government clearly hasn’t lied about anything else so surely they didn’t lie about the shape of the earth. The 1530 Mercator maps all showing the world was flat til freemasonry got involved and then insert lol flying waterball
should check out Armstrongs pose like this in his spacesuit lol

>>519470079
thanks i copied your answer because he will make that argument again in the next thread just like this says >>519467696
saves me the trouble when dealing with their pilpul

>>519470079
oh OK so you're saying it should be possible from a 6 inch elevation to look outward and be able to see over 30 miles away on a 3959 mile radius sphere?

>>519459527 (OP)
science defenders must be confused why we never went back to the moon or why no nukes drop ever

>>519470168
my proof the earth is round, which i have presented many times itt, has nothing to do with anything nasa did or didn't say. my arguments are based on observations anyone can make and some basic spatial reasoning

>>519470214
im not sure. you have evidence of that?

>>519470363
At school you were raised on fairy tales with which you describe your world.

/thread everyone else KYS

>>519470526
you're not sure? what do you mean? how far given your clearly highly advanced understanding of curvature of refraction do you think do you think it would be possible to see on earth from a 6 inch elevation. there IS a limit before things are beyond the curve right, how do we calculate it? what do you mean you're not sure? you've used a curvature calculator before right? so put in 6 inch elevation and tell me how far the horizon should be

>>519470649
the question to ask yourself, is if its possible to put your finger through the hole in a donut without touching the donut. if so, then you've proven to yourself that there is a flightpath which enables you to avoid the belts.

But, its also the case that traveling at 35000feet per second, you would pass through them in a very short amount of time anyway. they are not instant death and anyone who tells you otherwise is lying.

>>519470649
The Apollo flight paths specifically avoided the strongest part of the inner (strongest) Van Allen belt
And because of the physics of spaceflight, they were traveling the fastest as they were just escaping Earth's gravity well
So they avoided the worst and sped through the bad
And even then the overall dose was incredibly small, pic related

Readings were the average of various dosimeters that they carried on the Apollo spacecraft with the astronauts
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19730010172/downloads/19730010172.pdf

Russia also sent a vessel with a "fly-by" of the Moon, the Zond-5, with tortoises, insects, plants, seeds, and so on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zond_5

Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrCfkcb_DuQ
Also https://youtu.be/fMHLvoWZfqQ?t=3098

>>519470692
do you have any evidence?

>>519470151
That's a sphere buddy. You can see that plain and clear with your own eyes.
>constellations never change
They do and this has been measured over the years.

>>519470885
evidence of what? im asking what the distance limit of how far away we can see the bottom of things from 6 inches above the ground is

>>519459757
>glownigger talk about flat earth for decredibilise people saying the fake landing was made by nasa masons
This trick is starting to get old

My name is Tracy Caldwell Dyson, and I will full confirm space is both fake & absolutely gay (masonic kike shit)

>it's just a point of light
>ignore that it's shaped like a sphere and spins like a sphere and has static features like a sphere

>>519470151
>polaris never moves
You are a bald-faced liar

>>519471028
oh i see. well 30 miles seems like a bit much for only 6inches height but sometimes strange things do happen.
do you know this model?
https://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Advanced+Earth+Curvature+Calculator

it includes a scale of refractive conditions.

>>519470151
>constellations never change
You are a bald-faced liar
Barnard's star can be seen to move against the background stars year-over-year by anybody with a hobby-level ($800) telescope

>>519471020
ohh okay so which constellations are different from the constellation maps of thousands of years ago? which ones have changed? are they brighter because they're getting closer? no. are they dimmer? no. are any of them closer together? no. are any of them drifted apart? mm.. no

>>519471280
so do the planets. but then you admit THE ENTIRETY of the REST OF THE NIGHT SKY hasn't changed? and that's why bernards star is noteworthy?

Pic related is the flerftard right now

>>519469900
God gave you a brain and you use it to be retarded. Why?

Flat earthers see clouds, say they are mountains, and never correct themselves

Flerfs have no explanation of long-haul southern hemisphere flights that doesn't contradict some other phenomenon

Flerfs will use glare to pretend that the sun shrinks, when in reality it does not significantly change angular size as it would have to on a flat plane

Flerfs cannot explain why the horizon dips at elevation, as seen here from theodolite apps on a standard phone

>>519471532
>he thinks it's normal to have anti flat earth memes saved

the average person believes it's a globe and doesn't even get involved in the discussion, the people like you and the canadian are obvious shills with premade rebuttals and strawman

>>519471532
they never bother to even look at maps of the area that these shots are taken in

>>519471331
Barnard's Star is perhaps the best example.

Flerfs come up with only ad-hoc explanations that are self-contradictory or contradict their explanations for other phenomenon

Flerfs cannot explain why everybody on Earth sees the same face of the Moon, and sees it as a circle

Flerfs often say "You can't show refraction bringing back objects over a curved surface" but they are liars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lmmzvzz_Xs

Flerfs often claim boats can be "zoomed back in" when they have gone over the horizon and disappeared bottom-first
In truth, that has never and will never happen
Zooming only increases the angular size in all directions - what was hidden stays hidden

More ship zoom evidence

Flerfs cannot explain how people looking in completely different directions all see the same Southern constellations at the same time

Flerfs cannot explain a 24-hour sun in Antarctica

Analysis of the regolith kicked up by the rover shows that it was done in a near vacuum and with gravity 1/6th of the Earth's gravity

It was a vacuum because the size of the particles did not affect their trajectory (as it would if air resistance existed)
It was 1/6th of the gravity because the distances are known and the acceleration of an object in freefall is independent of the object's mass
This has nothing to do with the framerate of the footage, so "slow mo camera" is not a valid criticism
Film manipulation of this caliber did not exist in the 1970s

That footage is impossible to have been faked on the Earth
https://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/proof-we-landed-moon-dust/

Also https://youtu.be/fMHLvoWZfqQ?t=5270

>>519471677
when the flat shills use the same arguments in every thread of course i will have the same rebuttals. im not presenting any strawmen though. i get involved because these are paid shills and whoever is paying them to spread this shit and poison the well i dont want them to get their moneys worth. and i just find it annoying

Shadows can converge on uneven terrain, despite what science deniers say about the moon photos

>>519472094
Key word
>SOME

>>519471677
>its ok if flat earthers etc have folders to spam every thread
>its ok if i post the same things over and over again
>but you guys MUST type out original replies over and over again otherwise you're a shill
come off it

>>519472132
>satanic inversion of reality
if it was something they wanted to shill they wouldn't ban you for making flat earth threads

>>519472191
>OMG one of those shadows is longer than the others
>that means its lit by a studio lamp and is fakkee!!111
they do say this too.

>>519472191
i like your posts but i don't like the term science denier. science shouldn't be a cult. i got called a science denier for not taking the vaccine for example even though i looked at the reported myocarditis rates and based my decision on how rushed the vaccine was. science denier is a libtard term. but otherwise good posts

>>519472343
flat earth threads are banned because its a raid of shills and not organic discussion

>>519459527 (OP)
1 post by id...these threads really take off.

>>519472298
except 99.99% of people believe in the globe, so making memes to try to convince them of something they already believe is retarded. it's clearly done in response to the rise of flat earth. all your sources are flatearth.ws which EVERYBODY knows is a government shill site to control the narrative. there's a reason it's the first result when you search "flat earth"

I liked this post from a few days ago. It's on the same level of stupidity as David Weiss' "there's a 50% chance to see the Moon at night but why do we never see the Sun at night?"

>>519472504
And yet you still can't explain why the Moon appears in different orientations from different parts of the world while only showing one face.

>>519472504
you can attack the source but cant defeat the arguments.

when shills try and poison the well with flat earth psy ops and everyone in the thread tells them to fuck off and calls them retards, that hurts their objective.

>>519472504
Everyone knows the earth is round. Flat earthers are just retards being contrarians because they think the government will hate them for it

>>519472709
"explain this thing in the sky that has nothing to do with whether or not earth is curving at 8 inches per mile squared or else im flying through infinite nothingness!"

>>519472763
actually sadly for you flat earth is only getting more and more popular as people are waking up to the deceptions of the masonic world around us

>>519472870
the government is the one who pushes the globe in their school system and "verifies" it with their space agencies

>>519472995
There's no need to "push" something that's objectively true. That's like saying the government "pushes" the gravity narrative

>>519473118
lol "objectively" true. how is it objectively true you're flying through infinite nothingness on a wobbling tilted curving ball? objectively it is impossible to come up with a single experiment to prove earth is moving, and it objectively isn't curving at 8 inches per mile squared because we see 20x too far

>>519472870
90% of flat earthers here are paid shills doing a well poisoning psyop so that this becomes a "flat earth board" and then everytime we call out a legit conspiracy it gets drowned out by flat earth shit and a flat earth reputation as being a flat earth board. this happened when we called out the clot shot they decided to run an operation here and its this flat earth shit, thats a part of it. thats what im pretty sure is going on

>>519472889
The Moon cannot appear as it does on any flat Earth model without handwaving at as magic.

>>519473266
>objectively it is impossible to come up with a single experiment to prove earth is moving

>>519473318
anyone who goes down any conspiracy will eventually realize how evil the freemasons and jesuits are, and at the end of the day freemasons were used for the moon landing and jesuits invented the entire heliocentric model.. so, that's why all conspiracies lead back to the biggest one which is the globe lie. they've invented a fake world that they control, to hide the Creator

>>519473380
you don't even know what the moon is, you are talking about it like you're some expert. it's a light in the sky, nobody has ever been to it, stop pretending you understand how the moon works

>>519473266
protip: save up $25k and buy a gyroscope so you can record yourself observing Earth's rotation

>>519473266
Of course we're flying through nothingness. We haven't hit anything yet have we?
>>519473318
Obviously you'd have to be paid to be this retarded, no one would pretend to do it for free

>>519473432
gyroscopes literally prove a flat earth and it's literally einstein and hawking that said it's impossible to make an experiment from earth to prove it's motions because of relativism, sorry just because you have a meme for it doesn't make it true

>>519473539
if you'd get out your mom's basement you could look at the moon yourself

>>519472504
i havent used flatearth.ws, even though the genetic fallacy negates your argument. deal with the info, not the source.

>>519473591
yeah or when you're measuring 15 degrees per hour of drift you're literally measuring the sky spinning above your head in perfect circles every 24h. you don't even understand your own globe model if you think it's possible to prove earths motion from an inertial reference frame xd

>>519473474
but i can prove the earth is round without nasa or the government see
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so none of what you just said matters and doesnt debunk observations anyone can make for themselves and basic spatial reasoning

>>519473723
you think the earth is flat
i don't think you have any clue what frames of reference are

>>519473758
"here's my 5 jpegs of proof" how come none of them are talking about how we can prove earth is curving at 8 inches per mile squared which is required to be on a 3959 mile radius sphere?

>>519473817
>adhom
you think you're flying through nothing at 500000mph because jews told you so, so let's not pretend you have some intellectual high ground for believing what they teach 3 year olds in school (government brainwashing facilities)

>>519473845
have you ever looked in reciprocal zenith angles?

>>519465361
none of those have even gone into actual space. never left what it literally known as low earth orbit.

they damn sure havent gone to the fucking moon lmao

>>519473539
I can see that it has static features on it in a way that resembles a sphere. I can also see shadows on it consistent with it being a rough sphere. After seeing all this if you still draw the conclusion that it is a point light you are ignoring your very own eyes.

Now, explain how the Moon shows full 360° orientations to observers around the world, while remaining the same size and shape and showing the same face to all observers simultaneously.

>>519473845
>if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters >>519467696

>>519473972
Why not?

>>519473958
have you ever looked at if the ground under your feet is curving down and away from you at a rate of 8 inches per mile squared?