Thread 520802158

>physical copies of books,films,albums that are important to you
>dumb phone, no internet
>dumb TV
>Using a car with no console screen and navigating without GPS
>no use of jewgle products, AI, "smart home" stuff
>probably just disconnecting from the internet entirely by 2030
What are the political implications of living as if technology never surpassed that found in 2006?

go ahead
not joining you though.

I already do all that

>>520802240
I will start soon. Need to burn a shit ton of DVDs and CDs. Can't really transition to flip phone until I'm out of school and have a career

If you didn't do this after/during COVID and still think the government cares about you, you should kill yourself instead of stealing everyone else's oxygen.

>>520802158 (OP)
I miss owning things.
Books on a bookshelf, DVD's, records, VHS tapes, a big ass older full of CDs with the little labels you could pull out that had lyrics printed on them.
Everything is just "pay a subscription, get everything on yo fone"

>>520802158 (OP)
I have a 20 year old car and its on its last leg. Eventually when it dies I will be nearly forced into buying a more modern car. Are there any modern models which do not have touch screen faggotry? Afaik government mandated back up cameras after 2014ish and after that they started replacing dash dials with screen more and more.

>>520803505
Recent Hondas have physical dials and buttons 2015-2020 or so
Can find a good used one less than 50k miles for fair price

>>520803443
why do you miss it? you could just own things now.

>>520802158 (OP)
>What are the political implications of living as if technology never surpassed that found in 2006?

I had a flip phone until last year. I had to upgrade because my old phone wouldn't work on the new network. I hate my smartphone for pretty much everything except text messaging. Its like a gay, stupid proprietary micro laptop with a dinky touchscreen in place of a mouse and keyboard. That said having a camera is nice and having lived with a flip phone up to 2024 I can tell you that it was becoming increasingly difficult as more and more people expected you to have a smartphone as they directed you to use some queer unnecessary ap to do all sorts of things that shouldn't require one.

The world is made for brain dead phone obsessed women. If you don't have one of the damned things you're going to struggle. Personally I just have the smartphone and don't use it very much. It seems to be the best option, I have the thing if I need it; but I haven't let it dominate my life.

>>520802158 (OP)
Already do most of that. Though sadly I use a GPS.

>>520802158 (OP)
I don't think the solution is to go completely low tech, but limiting access to tech. There's still value to using the internet, and it's not going to go away in the future. But we should live more of our lives offline.

>>520802158 (OP)
I'm not driving without a GPS I'll get lost, then pissed off then wreck.

>>520803443
>Books on a bookshelf, DVD's, records, VHS tapes, a big ass older full of CDs with the little labels you could pull out that had lyrics printed on them.
You should have been converting them to digital format for the last couple decades. Sail the high seas, max out a fiber optic connection, and fill a few HDDs at least 16TB or bigger.

>>520803062
looking forward to you not posting here anymore

>>520807058
Buy a GPS unit that you can use without an internet connection and keep it disconnected from your phone. Such things have been around for a quarter century but people just got lazy and use their phone for that now.

>>520802158 (OP)
I had a garmin in 2006 with active gps

>>520802158 (OP)
Slow down there bud, starting to sound a little antisemitic

I miss flip phones with buttons so much, bros.

>>520802158 (OP)
People here never had any future to begin with so they are hung up on little consumables kek

>>520802158 (OP)
You wont be tracked by onstar so thats a plus.

>>520803505
Just find a low mile 1995-2005 car. I’ve been doing it for years

Just bought a 1999 Cadillac sts

>>520803505
>Are there any modern models which do not have touch screen faggotry?

No. Some of them have less touchscreen bullshit.

The Chevy Express van is decidedly retro and its really reliable and comes with an LS V8. Its basically a 1990s design. It still has a touchscreen; but it also has manual controls for most things and a traditional dash with mechanical speedo and tach.

The Mazda Miata is pretty old school too. Lots of fun to drive, very simple. It has a touchscreen; but also real dials and buttons for climate control.

>>520808018
1st or 2nd gen VW Tiguan 2.0 TDI. 2nd gen in pic related, can also get it in an extended wheelbase model (allspace or whatever). 1st gen has a torque converter auto, and in America the 2nd gen got an aisin torque converted (8 speed I think), which basically last forever. My first gen has full leather and heated seats, done 350,000km, and has never gone wrong, drives the same since new, uses even less fuel now, and the leather has no wear. Major service at 120,000km, an even more major service around 250-280,000km, and that's it.

Now German cars are complete shit.

Late 90s, early 2000s or 2010s are ok.

>>520808018
>1999 Cadillac sts
Guarantee that aluminum engine won't be fun times.

>>520807141
I've been thinking about doing it, data hoarding, I really fear the possibility of them changing words from books, movies, lost media, etc. Look at all current historical European dramas. They are full of niggers because they want people to believe they have always been here.

But Ive heard that hard drives have like a 15-20 year life. Is that true? I'm not a computer tech connaisseur.

>>520802158 (OP)
There don't have to be. I just want shit that works and doesn't kike me or is a soulless abomination like windows 10/11. Also a PC without an optical drive is cringe (but even if they did have optical drives, the case designs are starting to look alike).

Any oldfags around here to comment on what custom built PCs were like back in the 2000s? I wanna see if anything's changed, and if so, how much.

>>520807467
You should still be able to get them, but they're a shadow of their former selves.
Your sentiment however is appreciated. Fuck these goyslop fondle slabs.

>>520808708
a lot changed. it was way simpler back then, too. everything is so gay now.

>>520808514
>But Ive heard that hard drives have like a 15-20 year life.
It's kind of a moot question. I've only got a few hard drives older than 20 years and I don't even have the adapters to hook them up. But as far as I know, they're still working. If you get into data hoarding, you will need to transfer your data to newer drives, if only because of the eventual need for larger capacity, and arguably redundancy as well. I can tell you for a fact that optical media rot all the fucking time, including the brands that claim they won't.

>>520808708
>Also a PC without an optical drive is cringe (but even if they did have optical drives, the case designs are starting to look alike).
I used to feel the same way about PCs without 3.5" drives but shit in technology evolves. Additionally, no component has failed on me with more frequency than fucking CD/DVD/Bluray drives. They are by far the most unreliable fuckers imaginable. I've got a 5.25" drive that's 35 years old and it STILL fucking works, while the only CD drive I've got that still functions is a pioneer external USB that I bought less than ten years ago. Every single internal CD drive I have ever owned, burner or otherwise, eventually just gave up the ghost.

>>520808305
>Now German cars are complete shit
Everything made since 2020 is complete shit.
We're in the degenerate age

>>520802158 (OP)
>>dumb TV
good luck finding one of those.
my best hope was just using my teevee as a large computer monitor and watching movies from torrents.

>>520808708
>Any oldfags around here to comment on what custom built PCs were like back in the 2000s? I wanna see if anything's changed, and if so, how much.
And the answer to this is not really. I used to build them for people circa 2000. It's still a matter of a case, PSU, mobo, CPU/cooler, graphics card, and a hard drive. Sound cards and NICs used to be standard fare until most motherboards started integrating them, though sometimes it is better to buy a good one than use the onboard. Cooling is far more important and potentially expensive than it used to be, especially with newer-gen CPUs that apparently put out a retarded amount of heat even at stock speeds. Water cooling is still pretty much only worth it if you really have a passion for modding the fuck out of your rig. AIOs are great for cooling but are more unreliable long-term and expensive than a good air cooler. Also video cards cost a fucking arm and a leg thanks to AI driving up the prices. I'm still running on a 2600K OC'd with a GTX 1070ti and I play modern games without much issue at 1080p.

IMO, CPU tech has not justified upgrades nearly as much since about 2013 as they did before. GPU upgrades are worthwhile but expensive as fuck. I'll probably build a new rig in the near future because I would like to move past a 24" monitor but I'm not enthusiastic about the cost. And all the best sites for actual data on what parts are good are pretty much fucked and there's more FUD out there than there ever used to be. You have to do a lot more research from multiple sources these days if you want to be informed. Still a great hobby and I love it. It's always worth building versus paying for a custom-built rig.

>>520802158 (OP)
Have you seen the light phone iii? It's very minimal. It reminds me of the early smartphone hybrids in the 00s and it has long term support. It's a bit expensive but I'd get it if they allowed WhatsApp. I think they're going to by using Beeper.

>>520802158 (OP)
I've got my own internet going. No niggers and kikes allowed.

>>520806238
>I had to upgrade because my old phone wouldn't work on the new network.
This is the unfortunate issue with dumbphones; none of the actual dumbphones have all the 4g bands, and 3g was phased out. They also don't have any with open source operating systems, whereas you can install an open source Android custom rom on many Android phones, so they're actually less private than smartphones. Just get a cheap Android, install a custom rom on it, and uninstall the browser with adb if you would like.

>>520809572
they have a model of High Sense i believe still at Walmart, it may be done now, it has been a while.
if not available to purchase your best bet is to take apart the TV and remove the WiFi/BT card.. run hard wire ethernet to it and power it off entirely when not in use (plug removed from wall)
extreme? perhaps.. but this is what it takes to avoid these modern annoyances.

>>520803062
same

Is it even possible? Almost any old tech has done well to last the test of time. But 20 years, back when tech was generally not monitored and tracked, is still quite a long time.

I still use blu ray and dvd as my main watching platform. I stocked up when nobody wanted them, those same movies that appear on Netflix I have better quality copies of in physical media.

But manufacturers are getting smart for it. Watch the Technology Connections channel about newer DVDs.

Long story short, they release Fraiser complete series on DVD. The cheeky fucks reduced the quality to fit on single layer disks as opposed to the higher quality older copies which appear on dual layer disks. The result is a massive hit in quality. And the physical disks are thinner, cheaper and I guarantee won't be playable in 10 years.

The same is happening with cars. I still have an old 2.0 ford petrol car from 2007. The rust is hitting it hard now though and I doubt I'll get through my next inspection. It's headed for the scrapper sometime soon. What can I possibly replace it with? Hybrids and electrics that get tracked, which helps Rachel Reeves with her 3p per mile tax, or a straight petrol/diesel car which, due to the massive emissions restrictions, will not be around in 15 years after manufacturer, you'd struggle with 10 years.

The enshittification of everything has it's purpose. It's already been done, the die has been cast. You will be tracked and there's not very much you can do about it!

>>520802158 (OP)
already do that

>>520810774
>The same is happening with cars. I still have an old 2.0 ford petrol car from 2007. The rust is hitting it hard now though and I doubt I'll get through my next inspection. It's headed for the scrapper sometime soon. What can I possibly replace it with?
Another car from the early 00s or prior. Cubans are still driving cars from the 50s. You have to replace parts every now and then, but you're still better off doing that than buying the globohomo-tracking disposable appliances they pass off as cars nowadays.

>>520802158 (OP)
Bump
XP3Plus 5G is a low tech flipphone water mad chemical resistance i think

>>520802158 (OP)
You won't get to participate in society

>>520811677
>society
IOT is not the society itself but a parallel dystopia

>>520811677
>society
is dead

>>520811677
>You won't get to participate in society
We didn't during the scamdemic, and it was alright.
$oyciety can fuck off.

>>520802158 (OP)
Except for dumb phone and no internet, I have lived like this all my life and I'm still miserable because normalfags are hostile as fuck IRL and there is nothing to do outside of going to some stupid overpriced bar or restaurant. Going to the park makes me have weird looks; going to the movie theatre is weird if you go alone too many times a month, and I barely consume shit and just stick to some games like the cute honse girls game.

>he doesn't want smart appliance
Ewww! It's the future, look how convenient it is!

>>520811545

Easier said than done!

Cubans drive older cars due to the trade embargos that prevented them from buying newer cars.

UK cars of that vintage are difficult to find in decent condition. Until 2000, a typical 20 year old car was a few hundred pounds or scrap value, owners were not willing to spend the money maintaining them, the rot set in. And once it has, there's only so much you can do.

Part will also start to become more difficult to get hold of. Ford are suffering badly, so OEM parts are getting harder to find. They have even stopped supply parts for the shit Powershifts from 2015 and before. Nissan, Mitsubishi and Honda are all exiting the European markets next year, with Nissan only maintaining a presence to sell rebadged Chinese EVs. They will have little interest in providing parts there either.

Stellantis brands are also on the verge of collapse. They are 39B euros in debt and with it will go brands like Fiat, Vauxhall, etc.

All of this means that as cheap and nasty Chinese EVs proliferate the market, any 20 year old straight petrol is rocketing up in value. Shit, I bought my Ford for £750. If it was able to pass an MOT today, I reckon I would easily get £2000 for it.

But there is not many of these sorts of cars left. And if they are for sale, they command a huge premium.

>>520811759
>society

>>520802158 (OP)
>thinking any of that is low-tech
Fucking imbecile ngmi
>>520807141
>No, not analog, choose my way of consuming digital media like a typical unserious faggot. There's no hoop I won't jump through for my pretend time.

>>520812261
The engineers who make that shit deserve a slow and painful death. My 15yo Samsung microwave oven has one wheel to choose the power (that you generally don't touch because why would you want less than max, unless you want to unfreeze food), another to dial up the timer, and after a second it starts automatically. You can't do much better than that.

>>520802158 (OP)
Your data is valuable especially when you are a Racist White Man.
Kikes have to know what the Racist White Man is up to at all times.
Then they can sell that data to affirmative action poos, chinks, niggers, and other nonwhite trash who also want to know what the Racist White Man is up to.
Really they should be paying the Racist White Man for giving them so much valuable data.

Implying I ever stopped buying physical copies of books

>>520802158 (OP)
digitial is the way

>>520802158 (OP)
Enough of the phoen talk plz. ..More to life than blimmin pheons! TAKE IT TO THE PHOEN SUBREDDIT thats all about pheons.

>>520812899
Are you telling me you don't want a camera in your smart oven to check on your food, anon?

>>520802158 (OP)
I'm already doing it, only using internet to browse some pre-2010 sites and a few useful stuff. Even moved on to physical hobbies and clubs and shit, its insane how long a day is when you actually go out and do stuff, instead of getting caught in a doomscrolling spiral or grinding stupid shit in video games that don't matter. You can afford to have literally dozens of hobbies and meet interesting people doing them IRL. Like, we bought a fucking tram in scrap metal price, restored it and gave to to some museum, and now our name is on a brass plaque near it as the donators.

>>520812291
Funniest shit is, cheap Chinese EVs are better than anything manufactured in the west right now. They have this absurd pragmatic functionality about them, the chinks see cars not as works of art or identity, but pure people moving tools and their quality is okay for that. There is also this weird air of honesty about them, like they aren't even trying to hide this fact or play them up with salesman tactics. They just put their mid shit out and feel absolute confidence that they will sell based on their price fitting their quality alone.

>>520802158 (OP)
>dumb phone, no internet
Says the guy posting on the internet

Ahahahahahhahaha
This is like , technology is from.the devil said the priest while browsing the internet on his pc. Or even better the church's website ia written. Technology is to corrupt and enalave you and it is from.the devil

>>520812448
>>No, not analog, choose my way of consuming digital media like a typical unserious faggot.
Good luck storing thousands of VHS tapes and DVDs that will degrade unless kept in perfect conditions. I'll stick with hard drives that hold up way better and take up a miniscule amount of physical space by comparison. Hope you never have a fire.
>Fucking imbecile ngmi
Ah, you're projecting. No wonder you're trying to dissuade others from using technology efficiently to spite globohomo kikes.

>>520813944
Good luck servicing them when they break down, retard. The batteries alone will total them overnight, if you can even start them up when the servers they need to connect to in order to diagnose the problem go offline.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2BkrOeqJ6k
Despite the problems the bongnigger mentioned, older cars are the way to go. Many cars coming out now and that will come out in the future will be rendered totally undriveable due to their design. Parts for older cars may be expensive or hard to find, but at least you will actually be able to repair them.

>>520802158 (OP)
It's almost impossible to do that when a lot of utilities and services need to be bought over a phone. Printing out train tickets is about x10 more work than just having it on the phone. I recommend you do a week of camping but only bring 4 days of supplies. Your going to be quite amazed of how boring, uncomfortable, and dirty life is.

>>520814253
Government is correcting that issue with excessively salting roads ri destroy what's left btw. Wait until they make it impossible for a pre 2004 car to pass immisions.

>>520813708
>we bought a fucking tram in scrap metal price, restored it and gave to to some museum, and now our name is on a brass plaque near it as the donators

That's really cool anon. I sometimes feel that life is very empty. I need to keep such ideas in life. I should just pick a random thing and do it.

Not the boomerization of the millenials lmao

>>520803505
>Afaik government mandated back up cameras after 2014ish
2018. Get your years right anon.

>>520814595
>salting roads
They've been doing that for decades, retard. In fact, they're actually doing it LESS than they used to because they're increasingly using shit like sand, cat litter, beet juice, and brine solutions, all of which are less corrosive to vehicles.
>pass emissions
There are seven states that have emissions testing and there's little to no support to expanding them to other states.

BTW way to ignore every point I made.

>>520814253
>Good luck servicing them when they break down, retard.

Why on earth that would be of any difficulty to me, retard-kun? I live in a civilized country with customer protection rights. Any fuckery would see my money getting charged back.

>if you can even start them up when the servers they need to connect to in order to diagnose the problem go offline.

No, They don't. Only tesla does that shit.

>>520814845
It feels empty because your brain craves the dopamine that only comes from doing actual shit, not simulations of them. There are literally thousands of things that you could just get up and do at any single time. Do not let your habits drag you back into wasting your life away scrolling before a screen. Things like hiking, gardening, etc. take minimal amounts of money to start and they quickly branch into new hobbies.

>>520814920
Face it unc, we are old. Just wait until it happens to the zoomers too, alphas are already getting active on the internet.

>>520812261
The issue is that he's a stupid chud who doesn't know how to operate the oven

>>520809523
Trvke. Everything is shit now from electronics to cars to homes to food to clothes. I just found out my old phone earphones (Sony MH1C) that I got for free are now considered an unobtainable holy grail of audio.

>>520815037
>Why on earth that would be of any difficulty to me, retard-kun?
Because you won't be able to obtain equipment or manuals to work on them because the companies are eliminating the capability for them to be serviced by anyone but their own technicians, retard. You didn't even watch the video I linked. You clearly don't want to hear about the downsides of the Chinese EVs you're promoting.
>I live in a civilized country with customer protection rights.
And they have no power over Chinese companies, you naive ass.
>No, They don't. Only tesla does that shit.
You're insanely naive.
>Direct access to vehicle data is under threat by vehicle manufacturers. Historically, OBD-2 ports have granted vehicle owners and technicians access to vehicle data to assist with maintenance and repair.
>However, in the digital age of the modern car, vehicle data is now transmitted wirelessly and sent directly only to vehicle manufacturers.
>In 2021, 50% of cars already have these connected capabilities and by 2030, about 95% of new vehicles sold globally will have this connectivity (McKinsey).
>Wireless transmission of data, also known as telematics, allows vehicles to be diagnosed and in some cases, repaired without ever going to a shop. While access to this data could provide many benefits to car owners, currently the data is sent only to the vehicle manufacturer who then serves as gatekeeper for the data, determining who can have access and at what cost.
https://www.autocare.org/government-relations/current-issues/access-to-and-control-of-vehicle-data
Good luck with those EVs, nigger.

>>520815191
But I can, because chink EVs are simple as a stick and anyone can repair them, and they have a wide variety of OEM, aftermarket and scrapped parts already. Chinks don't give a shit, they don't need jewish tricks to sell their products, they produce actual capitalism. Besides, their parts are going to be made in Hungary too, they are moving their entire billet-to-car manufacturing chain over here.

>And they have no power over Chinese companies, you naive ass.
They do. They do business here and they comply with all the local laws. Even absolute shitnigger chinkshit companies like Temu handle complaints super graciously. Its easier to get shit refunded on Temu than on Amazon.

>You're insanely naive.
You are denying facts.

Tbh this is why western EV manufacturers seethe incessantly about China. They make a better, cheaper product that lacks all the spyware and shit too. They just make a shitty EV car that is completely functional with not a single extra bolt or millimeter of wire beyond what is absolutely needed, give it a stupid Chingchong motors name and undercut all the western manufacturers by 30%. For everyone who just want to get his ass to work and back, Chinese EVs will be the obvious choice in the future

>>520815835

Yeah, you really haven't got a clue about Chinese EVs do you. Shit, 30 minutes on youtube would be enough to inform you that they are not a good idea.

Have you ever seen an EV fire? Have you seen how long it takes for fire fighters to put one of those motherfuckers out?

Have you the first clue as to why EVs from China are so cheap? It isn't because they're industrious little chappies who built it right. It's because they are badly built to promote to the communist regime that EVs are a safe and sound investment. Those same poorly built monstrosities are making their way over to Europe. Shit, even RUSSIA of all people are now wholesale boycotting Chinese EVs simply due to their poor quality, lack of service and the amount of lives they have claimed. When fucking Lada-driving Ruskies are worried about life expectancy in an EV, you know they're onto something!

>>520807467
for me it's the

>>520815835
>Chinks don't give a shit, they don't need jewish tricks to sell their products
You have never, not once, dealt with a Chinese manufacturer in your life if you just typed this out. You're a fool and you will find out very soon just how naive you are.

>>520802158 (OP)
it's great. don't wait until 2030, just do it right now. you don't have to give up internet and ai tech, just put limits on how and when you interact with it. smartphones just make people miserable. old tech was better.

>>520816058
Have you tried getting your information from actual people who own them, and not random youtube grifters?

>Have you the first clue as to why EVs from China are so cheap? It isn't because they're industrious little chappies who built it right. It's because they are badly built to promote to the communist regime that EVs are a safe and sound investment. Those same poorly built monstrosities are making their way over to Europe. Shit, even RUSSIA of all people are now wholesale boycotting Chinese EVs simply due to their poor quality, lack of service and the amount of lives they have claimed. When fucking Lada-driving Ruskies are worried about life expectancy in an EV, you know they're onto something!

Wow, this jew is SEETHING. They are simply producing a better product, cheaper(even if its ugly and barebones as shit). Its capitalism 101. Jews are kvetching because their overpriced products are not selling anymore and the chinks have undercut them from the market.

>>520816268
I did and no amount of seething will change facts.

>>520810360
Use a surge protector, I turn mine off with my foot after using my entertainment center. Cuts power to all devices that can remotely spy on you.

Phones are literal spy devices entirely by now, and cars are becoming that way along with being total scam machines. Enshitification is ruining everything and we pretty much need legislation to handle it. Get these money grablers out of politics and get people in who actually care to make our lives less shitty.

>>520816540
I deal with vehicles on a daily basis! EVs and ICEs alike.

I know full well what the owners are like, and I know full well what shit we are getting in from China.

They are not a better product in any measure at all. Not one.

>>520816540
>seething
>seething
You're shilling for chinks. I'm not seething. I'm mildly awestruck that Hungarians are this stupid.

Mildly.

>>520812291
Get an older model car with an LS engine and just LS swap it over and over. They sell LS engines as crate engines. Could work for a Cummins swapped Jeep too.

>>520816663
They are. Western EVs are 30-40% overpriced the least for the same product.

>>520816664
No amount of emotional seething with work. Try practicing capitalism, make good products and compete instead. When was the last time a functional car was made in the US?

We have seen the same shit about japenese econocars taking over the western and the same seething too.

There is more to life than pheons.

>>520811677
Who the fuck cares? I have a wife and kids, society can go to hell

>>520816772

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGex0kLgNok

>>520817409
>Have you tried getting your information from actual people who own them, and not random youtube grifters?

I'm not watching a single youtube link.

>>520817409
He's a shill. The amount of times he uses "seething" is making this more than evident. It takes very little to buy Hungarian loyalty.

>>520817460
>I'm not reading, watching, or acknowledging anything that contradicts my shill angle
We got it. You're targeting newfags who know nothing about China.

>>520817460
>>520817523
What are you two arguing about? Chinese EVs are sold here and flooding the market with shit cars, and its been proven they contain spyware.

>>520817548
The Hungarian is claiming Chinese EVs are great bargains that are super easy to fix and that Chinese companies are super great at supporting their products and totally upstanding in their business dealings. I'm pointing out that his gaslighting is painful to behold.

>>520817685
I see, well from my observations of the chinese EV epidemic

>A bunch of ships transporting these cars have caught fire
>They're flooding the market to simply undercut everyone else
>Every fucking few months a new model is realised here and its obvious they just want total market domination
>May be also a ploy to secretly drain the electrical grid here as we are going FULL renewables in the future and if our power grid can't handle the volume of electric cars charging then we will fail to fuction as a society.
Most recently there was found to be a dumping ground of unsold chinese EVs, right next to a military base here also.

>>520816268
>Ford salesman big mad
Tell the goons in Detroit to start making cars again.

>>520817789
This is how they operate, it started with TVs and solar panels now we are here.

>>520817795
>pointing out that Chinese businesses are well-known for being scam artists and corrupt criminals makes you a Ford salesman
And that assertion makes you a blithering imbecile. I never once suggested nor would suggest that buying new American cars is a wise decision, fuckwit.

>>520817848
That is the way things are, I would never own one due to quality concerns, would never own a tesla either. Treating a car as a applicance is never a good thing. They depreciate faster than BMW's, Audis as well, so financially it makes no sense to get one.

Selling one woud be almost impossible and even junkyards here refuse to take them due to fire risk.

>>520802158 (OP)
Nigger do you even manual drive???
If not than fuck off

There is actually a Rasberry Pi book collection going on on Humble bundle if you guys are interested.

>>520818010
Only poor people do that.

>>520817523
>>520817548
I will never get bored of how ALL angloids without exception are seething about China simply making better products. They just cannot process the fact that the literal one-party state did capitalism better than their jewish shitholes and offers a better product. Start manufacturing better EVs, or better yet, better cars instead of whining about them. Cause as it stands Fing Fang Foom Motors' Chow Mein Maxx 3 electric shitbox costs less than 25% than the garbage 2-ton electro-SUVs western automakers are offering for the same role.


>>520817789
>May be also a ploy to secretly drain the electrical grid here as we are going FULL renewables in the future and if our power grid can't handle the volume of electric cars charging then we will fail to fuction as a society.
>OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS SHIT, BET CHYNA IS BEHIND IT

Absolutely hilarious

>>520818052
>I will never get bored of how ALL angloids without exception are seething
Come up with a new line, chink shill. You're not going to get anyone into those blast furnaces on wheels if you're just going to loop.

>>520803505
Look into commercial car-based vans. Some of that shit is extremely basic just to bring fleet price and complexity down.

>>520818039
Only faggots drive automatic

>>520818093
I will make fun of you and you will keep seething.

>>520807141
What I like about using the phone for GPS is live traffic avoidance data and being alerted to police traps

>>520818052
EV's aren't even popular there so what exactly are you arguing? It takes Toyota, one of the largest car companies on the planet to at least put 3 years into R&D into a new model and that isn't taking into account testing and such, and you expect a chink EV to be of similar standards?
>>520818138
You don't have cities like us and aren't as densly populated, if you ahd to drive in our cities, your manual cock shifter would not be ideal.
>>520818171
You only look like more of a fool.

>>520818171
You're only making it more evident how little tolerance you have for anyone calling out your obvious shilling. Chinks cannot handle criticism.

>>520818298
I live in Poznań
And manual >>>>> homogay automatic for faggots that cant drive
Man prefer manual
Faggots and woman prefer automatic
Simple as

>>520818376
Anon this may be a shocker for you, but most cars here do not come with a stick shift, car companies don't sell em in the west because no one buys them.

Automatics also offer things manuals do not such as better towing ability and are more useful in offroad situations.

>>520807058
>>520807247
Buy a fucking map like we had to do and then learn your own fucking roads, so you aren't driving around like a retarded jeet delivering Wendy's, who then has to ask me where so-and-so is after he parks because he has never seen a multi-story building before.

>>520818431
Manuals are a lot more fun, though I don't miss replacing clutch plates.

>>520818526
They can be, but I never associated it with surperiority like that anon, he only drives manuals because all he gets there are hatchback cuckboxes and tries to cling to the bit of masculinity he has left. He will never know the joys of driving a pickup truck lmao.

>>520818431
>Car vompanies dont sell thrm in the west
Becose you are faggots
You cant help yourself in proving my point

>>520818298
No, I expect them to exceed those standards these days, as they aren't the ones cutting corners everywhere and struggling to survive while sliding deeper into bankruptcy like Stellantis, but the ones in the upswing, trying to gain new markets with cheap and decently made products. Western automakers are simply uncompetitive for a number of reasons. Seething about China will not make them any more competitive

>>520818344
I will keep making fun of you anyway. Your seething is entertaining to me.

>>520818612
How is driving a hatchback not gay anon? Thats likely what you drive.

>>520803239
True

>>520813261
Shut the fuck up, shitskin. There's more to life than shitting in the street and raping your sister, benchod.

>>520802158 (OP)

M8 I just got a chinoid QNAP NAS and 6x22TB drives. Download everything. I have 10 lifetimes of books and movies.

>>520808514
I did this with mid 00s tv
They did change things

>>520818618
I wouldn't say that, Americans do dominate the pickup truck market for a reason. You don't get those cars there tho.

Here, like in america they're the best thing to have to tow and get stuff done in. Stellantis is trash however.

>>520818298
Eople used to build their own cara before manufacturers realized it was cheaper than buying them from them. Hence ehy everything is over priced to fix now.

>>520818635
I drive sedan normally you autocuck

>>520818712
What car then tough guy?

>>520818431
>automatics
>more useful in offroad situation
Maybe in a flat gay desert, but that's not really what off road means, you limp wristed zoomer.

>>520818712
> normally
Hatchback or gay eurobike rest of time

>>520802158 (OP)
I live like this now.
Flip phone I bought from a gas station, with cash
Keep some minutes on it
Car is a late 80's SUV with a 5 speed
Farm truck is early 70's 4x4
Tons of books - so many my wife gifted me a few bookshelves to put some of them on.
Still got bins of books in the basement
Paper maps
No television
Make most of what we need here at home
My tether to the internet is this old shitty laptop

>>520818618
>I'm literally incapable of not looping the same response over and over because my chink paymasters told me to treat critics of chink products as mortal enemies
What's worse is that you've already revealed that you're a boomer. If you were a young idiot, you could be forgiven for your naivete. Instead, you're a boomer slave to bugpeople.

>>520818751
Automatic gearboxes produce more torque, now explain to me how that isn't more useful offroad?

>>520818743
Passat

>>520802158 (OP)
Bros i cant wait, i need to stay high tech for 8 more years till my house is paid off, then im getting a flip phone and a part time job where i can ride my bike too

>>520818298
>brags about living in a city
You really are gay as fuck. I'm glad you're getting bodied by the pole.

>>520818765
Nah
On other occasion i have Tarpan Honker

>>520818816
Great, so you drive some glorified german taxi sedan. Good on you, and also all modern passats only come with a DSG.

>>520803505
>Are there any modern models which do not have touch screen faggotry?
Unfortunately, no
I was thinking about getting a 99 Honda CR-V for my wife. Those little fuckers can go 300,000 or 400,000 miles.
Do a top end on it, freshen up the suspension, all the normal things you do with an old car and you'll get another 200k miles out of it, easy

>>520803062
>>520810360
you already... gave up the internet?

>>520818871
Thats why i have old one
It doesnt even have DPF filterand can drive on vegetable oil in case of shtf
While you will be cucked by your jew gov

>>520818842
I nevero once said in my post I live ina city, or are you retarded? I alluded to driving in capital cities is shit in a manual.

>>520818799
You have already admitted you have no driving skills. I'm not arguing with you.

>>520818916
Driving manual is not shit in cities
You are just a pussy weak faggot

>>520818899
Second gen Rav4s are probably the last good crossovers with no screens or bullshit.

>>520813702
And make sure you connect your wifi to your appliances so Big Daddy can watch your pie cooking along, kekius

>>520818845
> not F150
Im an electrical engineer and my work gives me a new F150 every five years to use as a i please.
Get outta here with your WWII-era eurojeeps

>>520818939
Because you know fuck all about cars? That's your argument?
>>520818912
I doubt that would work, for very long anyway before you fuck the car up completely.

>>520802158 (OP)
>disconnecting from the internet entirely by 2030

Jews are trying to make this impossible via (((digital ID))), which is rebranded (((CBDC)))

>>520818916
Ok you defended autotragic transmissions on their behalf, which is irrelevent. You are an effeminate bitch.

>>520819023
And you're a 20 something year old faggot who thinks his all that because he has the ability most people do of driving a stick shift.

I can drive stick anon, I just don't right now, not will I go back to it because I don't want to.

>>520818963
>Second gen Rav4s
That's what she has now
It's pretty small. I refer to it as "the toy car" and feel like Mr. Incredible stuck in traffic when I drive it.
My own daily is an 88 Isuzu Trooper II. Round headlight.
Had the engine rebuilt. Thinking about replacing it with that V6 Chevy they had in there.

>>520818998
Nigger you dont know shit about old diesel engines

>>520819088
Your passat is still full of sensors and likely has injectors.

Its german, even the 90's jettas have shit that can fuck up, I'd imagine vegable oil would fuck up injectors really fast, not to mention it getting clogged up in fuel filters or the fuel pump.

>>520807565
Who asked, pratyuksh

>>520818998
You don't know how to fucking drive, and you are bragging about it. These "advantages" merely cover up shitty skills. Go huff some petrol.

>>520802158 (OP)
I check all those boxes except dumb phone and no internet. People who can't navigate without gps astonish me. I just plan where to go and look at the signs and shit.

>>520819209
>Skills
>Never worked on a car in his life
Top kek.

>>520802158 (OP)
4chan came out in 2003 though. This website is pretty low-tech. You can practically post on here from a toaster.

>>520819209
Dude, nobody thinks your dick is longer than two inches because of your aggro act about stick shifts. I grew up using them but you're an ass for thinking it says anything about masculinity. You probably think power tools are for pussies, too.

>>520819254
Driving isn't the same as repairing, and you'd rather repair and auto than a manual? LMAO you lost just give up

>>520818990
If you are genuinely an EE, then you would understand and respect the fact that modern vehicles are for shit.
Not one of them has been able to replicate the engineering and durability of the Ford 300 engine. God's Anvil.

>>520818899
I always hear about Americans getting 200k miles out of cars but high mileage in Canada is like over 170km which is 105k miles. Vehicles are generally off the road before 250k. What's up with that? Yeah we salt our roads but so do you.

>>520819337
simple is best
4chan is far superior to any platform on the planet

>>520819449
Autos typically outlast manuals in terms of reparing them anyway, if its a normal slushbox transmission, I'm not concerned with it. ZF transmissions will last longer than the engine will for example. You will probably replace a clutchpack 1000 times before a reliable auto transmission fails.

>>520819370
The post you're replying to has nothing to do with masculinity, you effeminate faggot.

>>520819146
Ultimate non knowing nigger XD
90s to early 00s around 20% of cars here were driving on used cooking oil
You just need to mod a bit of the engine
Guess what i already did it

>>520816772
>We have seen the same shit about japenese econocars taking over the western and the same seething too.
>xiami dolphin is a future classic. It'll be like Fairlady Z!
You're being a spastic. Japs did their own thing and some of it was nice. What is arriving from Chine all looks forgettable.

>>520819538
I get it, you're gay. No need to elaborate further.

>>520819540
>nothing to do with masculinity
>you effeminate faggot
Nice self-own, insecure twat.

>>520819554
Why? I'm curious to see how long it lasts.

>>520819538
I had to replace clutchpack once in 20 years
Maybe learn how to drive nigger

>>520819538
>Autos typically outlast manuals in terms of reparing them anyway

Ok dude, you're dumb as hell

>>520819609
Gas price compared to free cooking oil
And they last essa 2 milion km before engine dies (old mercedes did that)
Volkswagens can last up to 1.5mln km

>>520819648
Had a bmw 530i with a ZF, engine got to 400,000 thousand km and transmission was still fine, only had one ATF fluid change in its lifetime. Car was built in 2003.

>>520813261
SHUT YOUR TRAP~
you bought picrel from chinks lmao

>>520819648
He drives like a woman
You can feel it

>>520818658
>>520819711
that was meant for you shatman.

>>520816596
yes, surge strip is the way
easy life
>>520818905
a work in progress..

>>520819711
You saved pic related on your phone and didn't refute anything I said.

>>520819591
What the fuck are you talking about?

You're all being spastics anyway. Only people intaerseted in phoene are south amanricans, africans or shinks any way.........
frobably indonesans aswell.

>>520819538
Used manual transmissions are cheap here because they're frequently crashed and salvaged on top of low demand. No one drives manual here so enthusiasts will just crash them having fun.
If you blow second gear you just replace the whole thing for $300 at a junkyard and labour.
At work we use American domestic trucks and generally get 80-160k km before a transmission rebuild and it's thousands of dollars per truck. These are work trucks so obviously regular consumers get around 250k km on a transmission

>>520816596
Powerstrip/surge protector is a great idea that everyone should do, not only for gay surveillance reasons but also some of your electronics may have a powerdraw even when turned off so you will save money on electricity.

>>520819853
>and didn't refute anything I said.
about what?

>>520819853
>instantly contradicts his claim that he's not talking about masculinity by immediately attacking the masculinity of the anon calling him out for doing so
>plays dumb after realizing what a brainless meathead he is
And I'm not even going to get into the irony of doing this on a fucking anime imageboard.

>>520819481
I do not know. I would say designed obsolescence but I cannot speak with any authority on that other than anecdotal
My father's car was a Chrysler from the 1960's. He finally retired it after it rolled over 400.000 miles.
My first vehicle was a Jeep CJ7. Mileage unknown. I bought it on a salvage title and put an entire new body on it and rebuilt the 258 straight six. It had that street 5 speed in it and I never got around to dumping it and replacing it with a NV4500.
Drove it until I got married. Then sold it because we were poor and it was a toy.
Had a 1980's Chevy Blazer with the V6 - which is just the small block Chevy V8 with the front two cylinders chopped off - and it was a great little truck.
Drove it until it literally disintegrated - it had 300,000 miles on it by then and you could see daylight through the holes in the doors.

>>520819948
About being a shitskin and fucking your sister. Reading comprehension is pretty bad with shitskins, stop replying to me until you understand the language. At least this faggot aussie can hold a conversation, and he probably doesn't have cuck shit saved to his phone.

>>520818113
This, at work we use a (relatively newish) small caddy that doesn't even have a radio and speakers

>>520820006
Dude, it isn't that deep. Automatic transmissions are gay and you are gay for defending them. You can be gay and masculine at the same time. Stop being such a pedantic nigger.

>>520819911
I did 750 km before REGENERATING transmision on manual
And i paid like 1.5k złoty (less than 500 dollars)

>>520820040
why do yu keep going on a BOUT PHONE?? Ypou're and oddball cunt I reckun.

>>520820095
>Automatic transmissions are gay and you are gay for defending them.
I haven't defended them, dumbass. You're such a fucking emptyheaded dolt you're just attacking anyone who doesn't join in on your attempt to assert your masculinity over a control preference of a fucking machine, because you're a fucking pathetic boomer.
>Stop being such a pedantic nigger.
It isn't pedantic to point out the retarded behavior you're engaging in, meathead. Not only is your internet tough guy act not convincing anyone of your masculinity, but it's directly undermining it. The fact that I have to explain this to your boomer ass like it's fucking 1999 tells me that you need your Metamucil and a nap.

>>520819680
>And they last essa 2 milion km before engine dies (old mercedes did that)
W123 Master Race rise up
One of the best cars they ever made
Doesn't break - and if it does break, you can fix it with a brick and some string

>>520819915
>also some of your electronics may have a powerdraw even when turned off so you will save money on electricity.
>dickweed.

Seriously, imagine being on here going apeshit and chest-beating saying
>ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SAYING YOU USE A MOUSE AND NOT A TRACKBALL???
>JUST ADMIT THAT YOU TAKE 15 COCKS A DAY IN YOUR ASS, YOU FRUIT-FLAVORED CUMGUZZLING QUEER!!!!
Grampa's dick hasn't risen since a Bush was in the White House.

>>520802158 (OP)
>if technology never surpassed that found in 2006?
Pretty boring tbdesu, I would just use a DS instead of a phone

>>520811677
omg just think what would happen if we couldnt vote!

>>520802158 (OP)
going low tech isn’t worth it. just program yourself ahead of the addictive stimuli and you’ll find yourself content with much time saved

>>520812291
things really are completely fucked

>>520816596
>>520819915
you could even implement a few of these plugged into the wall outlets around the house, and not have to physically flip the power switch off on any 'smart devices' you want to be certain are turned off at the surge protectors, and off the network.
just like the good old days, when turning off devices really meant turning off devices, and not putting them in a low power state.

we don't need no stinkin fancy pants low power state corporate spying smart devices..

>>520814595
Microsoft is doing this right now with Windows 11 and its increased hardware requirements

>>520818705
>I wouldn't say that, Americans do dominate the pickup truck market for a reason.

Lol. Lmao. No they don't. Toyota does. All they have are bloated boomermobiles.


>>520819578
That is the point. Forgettable ass pure functionality.

>>520820279
W124 is the true Aryan.
t. previous owner

>>520813944
Chinese can be both good and bad with materials.

>>520817409
reminds me i need to find a nice dvd copy of jam

>>520820561
It's the CPU that tracks you, not the recording devices

>>520816058
>Have you ever seen an EV fire?
YEAH! some of the best videos on bitchute are their compilations. They go up like a light!

>>520820575
I sold mine when it had 1.5mil on clock

I had one of these for a year around 2020 or 2021.
AMA

I would say that you dont need to burn CDs and DVDs.
Get some cheap hard drives and keep your media on there.
Once it is digital, moving it to the inefficient and costly standard that is a disk is absurd.
If you're gonna use broadband to acquire it then use HDDs.
Why you you want to perfectly mirror 2005 as if all technology arrived at the same perfect point at the same time?

>>520820575
I grenaded the transmission in a SLK230 Kompressor once upon a time during a very specialized driving school put on by Mercedes.
Mercedes would give cars to the school, who would then let students use them. If/when they broke, Mercedes would reverse engineer the cars to figure out what went wrong and make the next version better.
The 124 is a good car. Full disclosure.
But I prefer the styling and reliability and ease of maintenance on the 123's - I'm a round headlight type.

>>520806238

Nokia 2660 flip 2025 4G for VoLTE. Crisp calls and sms. OK alarm, and no socials.

It is indeed starting to be much of a hassel tho, as you say, so much idiot app things now even for ordering a beer some places. Or paying for parking.

>>520820574
>Lol. Lmao. No they don't. Toyota does.
You really are an imbecile.
>Considering YTD data up to September 2025, the leader is still the same as for the past 40 years, the Ford F-Series. It gained 12%, reaching a 15.4% market share.
>The Chevrolet Silverado ranked in 2nd place (+2.8%), followed by the Toyota Hilux in 3rd (+0.8%).
https://www.focus2move.com/world-best-selling-pick-up/
Tell your paymasters you suck at your job.

>>520802158 (OP)
DVDs instead of streaming

>>520820817
Wow, that's nice tale.
My first car was a 72 1300, obviously with round headlights. Then a couple of mk2 GTIs too.. I understand you.

>>520820739
That's amazing. I sold mine at 380kms.

>>520820994
DVDs are so cheap now too

>>520820995
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zcm4oS9IaM

>>520808281
>The Chevy Express van is decidedly retro and its really reliable and comes with an LS V8.
You can say that with many commercial vehicles. Fleet owners and business owners don't really give a shit about that sort of stuff, and if they do, there's a $5 Amazon phone mount and a 12V USB charger for that.

>>520802158 (OP)
>>520803443
Being too retarded to pirate is an IQ test.

>>520821055
You had it from new???
You know that clock did reset to 0 after a mil???

>>520821062
Always wanted a mk1, and only drove one once. Probably my favourite car was a 3dr black 16v mk2. They're amazing to drive fast.

>>520821365
forgot the example..

>>520821392
for posterity

>>520802158 (OP)
Reception is shit on dinosaur phones of course it's all been switched to 5g

>>520821150
>You had it from new???
Nah. I bought it at 270 or something.
>You know that clock did reset to 0 after a mil???
Didn't get that far. Bugs reset at 100k.

>>520821148
Maybe not being able to explain it well enough is the IQ test
>Yeah I have a Netflix here's the password
or
>No I don't have a Netflix, go to google and type your favorite show alongside the suffix "watch online for free"

I wish there was a dumbphone not dumb enough so I can put a local small language model, like the Samsung TRM (tiny recursive model) AI of 7 mil parameters, like having an actual AI in your hand on a midtech/alttech phone

>>520821525
VPN, qBittorrent, piratebay.

>>520821641
Have ;you heard of the rastberry pie?

>>520821525
Why are jews so adamant about making tests and framing questionnaires on here. Really weird.

>>520821694
sflix if you're of the putlocker or vidbux generation.

>>520821525
>have the opportunity to store most knownledge from humanity in a modest air tight server
>with minimal investment, specially if you come from first turd country
>"nah bro, I will go full dvds and vhs, man!"
>dvd falls on the floor, doesn't work anymore
>low quality, low space storage, need a whole room to store data
>"I am free"

Like a said, IQ test, bro.

>>520821735
They can't decide upon which angle to take.

>>520820935
>BOOMERS BUYING OUT BLOATED SHITBOXES MEANS THEY ARE GOOOD

Muttoids are the dumbest.

>>520821735
Unironically feminism, pirating is social humilation

>>520821840
They have it at their feet. A nice Park Avenue, Cutlass or a Le Baron would be easy enough to come by.

>>520821831
Physical media is nostalgia blindness or perhaps berry picking, someone must have thrown out his collection and he felt useless to his tribe

>>520821840
You said Toyota dominates the pickup market. That's completely false. Out of the top 7 best selling pickups worldwide, Toyota's top sellers are #3 and #7, and the rest are American brands. The fact that you just got proven objectively wrong and still seethe shows that every time you've talked about others seething, you were projecting. For a shill, you're low-quality, like everything else Chinese.

>>520818052
Drain an 18650, unscroll it, and drop it into a glass of water. Make sure to breathe the fumes.

>>520812899
why would you use the microwave to defrost
just plan ahead and pull it out of the freezer

>>520803505
Cars from 1999-2012 are the only ones worth getting. Look how much they go for second hand now. You'll pay $2000 for a 2009 Toyota Corolla with 200,000 miles on it. There is a good reason. You can still fix everything on them, cheaply, and most the time yourself without bullshit specialty parts and tools. No $1,000 a piece failing air bag sensors, $400 window motors, or impossible to find/replace/ fix dash components.
I have a 2003 Corolla for in town and work commute with 280,000 miles on it. I just put $400 into it with fluid exchange, new plugs, tires, other odds and ends, because I'm gonna get 350,000 on the engine. It is a lame car, but 40 mpg hwy and I've replaced nothing factory but normal maint. parts, a water pump, a cv axel, and a bearing. Toyota is incredible.

>>520821715
raspberry pi yes i've heard about it

>>520802158 (OP)
GPS is great, just like radio. If done right it's a one-way harvesting of data sent out to the public for your own benefit

>>520802158 (OP)
>Going low-tech
I realized, I prefer technology I can walk away from, and the smart phone was constantly breaking my concentration. So I got rid of the smartphone, then got rid of a cell phone altogether. I prefer a home-phone.
Also, my laptop was too much of a distraction, so I reformatted it with a headless arch install. So I can still write, backup data and listen to music, but nothing else. I digitized my journal because my notebooks were falling apart.
I don't use social media, 4chin is enough, and 90% of the time I'm on the net, I'm on Youtube or ChatGPT looking up info on gardening or fixing my ATV's.
Outside of watching, "Wheel of Fortune" and Green Bay Packer football, I'll generally watch a movie before bed, and that's about all the TV I watch.

>>520822223
and you bought the car new
fucking lol
you just defeated your own argument because
fags cucked by second hand markets
gets to deal with god knows what used goods
its a shit deal no matter how you look at it
only people defending it are mechanicks
or people who "bought at the right time"
if you assume nucars are automatically bad,
which they aren't
in a decade they will ALL be like that

>>520821831
>dvd falls on the floor and breaks
>harddrive has a woman moment and completely corrupts
>instead of loosing one dvd you lost thousands
Both have pros and cons, the fact that youre shilling one means youre an actual retard

>>520822838
I bought it used in 2012 with 80,000 miles on it for $12,000 and felt like it was a rip off.
New cars a bad because they can't be easily serviced. I have a 2021 Honda Passport I paid a stupid amount for that you have to remove the engine cover and a vac just to get to the negative battery terminal. I don't see it reaching 200,000+ miles. You obviously don't work on cars.

All this couples designed economy

>>520822568
You did all that shit instead of just having some willpower

>>520823991
no i do my own work on cars
i just decided after years of maintaining shit boxes
that it was a waste of time and unnecessary stress

>>520823991
>cant be easily serviced
100% my shitbox is old enough to vote ans i can fix most of it with a spanner and a screwdriver

Everyone should drive a 2002 Micra. 4 door sunroof model, you can put the seats down. It's the dream.

>>520810774
>But manufacturers are getting smart for it. Watch the Technology Connections channel about newer DVDs.
>Long story short, they release Fraiser complete series on DVD. The cheeky fucks reduced the quality to fit on single layer disks as opposed to the higher quality older copies which appear on dual layer disks. The result is a massive hit in quality. And the physical disks are thinner, cheaper and I guarantee won't be playable in 10 years.
those were bootlegs, not official releases, hence the shit quality

>>520802158 (OP)
>>no use of jewgle products, AI, "smart home" stuff
>doesn't have pee on sauna stove to make it heat feature

>>520824180
Women should not be allowed to buy anything but 1 litre micras, the amount of football mammies in their big fuck off suv style cars that theyre to fucking afraid to bring up to speed limit. Fuck i hate them so much

>>520824058
I still find myself looking at others and being disappointed they cannot do what I can do.
Have some humility
I have paper copies of blueprints, with CD's of the exact same blueprints backing them up in deep storage - just in case.
Plug and play DVD/RW/CD drive that can run itself on about any computer you plug it into.
I understand the value of various media, their advantages and disadvantages - most tech developed in the last 20 years was intentionally designed to make it addictive.
Because the fuckheads who made it did so in order to vacuum as much money out of your pocket as possible.

>>520820761
Kind of how I see it as well, I'd rather just be efficient in my use of technology rather than being a Luddite about things.
I do see the appeal of >no tech, don't get me wrong, but limiting your use of needless technology and focusing on the pieces of technology that genuinely aid in your life, and without bloat and clutter, is my approach to things. Examples: no need for tv because i don't watch tv; no need for a microwave because i heat food on the stove; i use a smartphone for whatsapp, calls and email, and nothing more; i drive an old banger because it's lasted me this long already.
granted nothing above is the most efficient, but works for me. AI has just made me more comfortable in my previous tech choices, as it's just rotting people's souls even faster than socmed ever did.
Ideally I'd love a >no internet world, but Pandora's Box has been open in that regards, so I just try and live with it within my mortal means.
Memento mori.

>>520824118
I can disagree it get to a point, you do have to know what you are up agsinst and make sure the bones are good. Thing is, if it is 12+ years old and still running, it was probably a quality vehicle and worth working on, the opposite of some beater Dodge Ram death trap from a similar time period.

>>520824621
*can't

>>520824325
Actually I kind of enjoy sitting in the supermarket car park while some wan in her enormous Volvo landbarge does a 128-point turn trying to get out of the space. It gives me time to reflect.

>>520807141
>nooooo you have to engage in digital hoarding!!!

>>520802158 (OP)
The problem is you can't apply to any job like that

>>520802158 (OP)
>>physical copies of books,films,albums that are important to you
put em on a hard drive you can get a 6TB sata drive for 200$ more than enough for most people's movie,whow,collections
>>dumb phone, no internet
no such thing, internet is how you make calls or do anything
i do have offline phones i use in various projects (most commonly just for gaming from my pc via steamlink) but those are just old phones people gave me when they replaced theirs
>>>Using a car with no console screen and navigating without GPS
why not, i installed an android console in my car and it has it's own gps independant of my phone + it's own mapping app with maps saved locally (same as my phone, organic maps app)
>>>no use of jewgle products, AI, "smart home" stuff
again why not? download a llamafile (https://mozilla-ai.github.io/llamafile/example_llamafiles/) and you can run a chatbot on any windows/mac/linux/android device easily

>What are the political implications of living as if technology never surpassed that found in 2006?
probably just inconvenience + not actually protecting you from bad stuff.unless you physically remove yourself from technological society and move to some desert/forest there's no replacement to being wise about what tech you use and how you use it

>>520823634
Nvme ssd are tough as fuck. At least more than a fucking dvd.

>>520802158 (OP)
What a stupid concept. Flip phones transfer just as much location information as smartphones. They just afforded the user fewer opportunities to load extra spyware onto the phone voluntarily. You can just get a smartphone and not put every fucking social media client on it.

>>520802158 (OP)
How do you get a fucking job without a fucking smartphone and a fucking messenger in it? How do you explain that to your boss? To living without of modern tech you should be priveleged as fuck, my friend, it's a luxury.

>>520802158 (OP)
I think internet should stay at home, and when you go outside always without phone

>>520825113
Ssds still have the same problem, if it corrupts youre fucked

>>520802158 (OP)
You won't be able to find a car not stuffed with retarded electronics acting as a planned point of failure.

>>520803443
>Everything is just "pay a subscription, get everything on yo fone"

>>520825259
The only way to corrupt is the constant write and read. As long time storage is good enough.

Way better than a fucking dvd, man.

I like to buy obsolete forms of physical media (laserdisc, tapes, etc) but I'm too addicted to jewtube slop to give up my phone.

I refuse to buy newer cars with giant infotainment shit and wifi whatever built inside. Good thing I can't afford them anyways, I guess

>>520818113
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>>520802158 (OP)
they have satellites that can read a book from space now so you have no privacy by default. I have a job so Google AI saves me valuable time. It doesnt matter if you use it or not, it may make you feel like a special boy but doesnt change anything, just puts you at a competitive disadvantage. I used a Nokia for a month recently and it was shit. We live in a golden age of information access beyond anyones wildest dreams 20 years ago,what you do with it is up to you.

>>520824058
Takes more willpower to live without it. Instead of most people, coping, thinking they have willpower because they have 6 hours of daily smartphone screen-time instead of 10. Just get rid of it, pussy.

>>520829979
Based Ted poster.
What video is that pic from?

>>520824058
>You did all that shit instead of just having some willpower
lel, the willpower master has entered the chat y'all.

my overall take is that being a luddite for the sake of being a luddite is kind of gay. that's mostly re: "no internet." but cutting out all the annoying aspects of technology is commendable and even necessary.

i didn't get a smart phone til 2013 because i thought they were useless toys for faggots. nowdays i only use it for GPS and phone number verification if some faggot service refuses to take my VOIP number. maps and internet on the go is pretty game changing, but using it as a toy is for degenerates and women. adults and men still use computers. imagine surviving on the internet without adblock. i had to go back to iphone a few years ago, cause i refuse to waste money on new phones and a nice newer one fell into my lap. what a piece of shit. at least android allows some customization and adblocks that sort of work.

>>520805791

You are too stupid to understand or maybe naive. You were not alive in the 90's and early 2000's

>>520802158 (OP)
Did you know you can just turn the internet connection off and delete apps from modern phones and they are then simply phones? When people make threads like this they only display their own normie tendencies and lack of discipline.

>>520830559
>i didn't get a smart phone til 2013 because i thought they were useless toys for faggots
and then you became a faggot yourself
what a coincidence
someone who carries a live microphone in his clothes is called a snitch

>>520803443
>Everything is just "pay a subscription, get everything on yo fone"
torrents? you can still own anything you could possibly want to, and in much larger volumes than physical media could ever allow.

i don't miss owning piles of plastic junk or books at all. i have gotten rid of all of my nostalgia crap from that era by unceremoniously dumping it in the trash. everything you mentioned was used as decoration to fill bookshelves and collect dust.

with the minor exception of music, which obviously has relatively infinite replay value. but imagine being okay with 10 songs on a CD when an iPod could hold 10,000. i had owned a couple of the first hardware mp3 players on the market in the late 90s, before the iPod so i speak from experience.

physical books can still be okay for no internet situations, or a nice big hardcover textbook that you can lay open on a table and not have to hold in your hands. for random reading though, imagine wasting money on some shitty paperback instead of just loading a pdf/epub on my phone.

the best thing about torrenting is the convenience. every single piece of media that's ever been published is one search away. i fully agree though that paying for streaming services is for women, faggots and retards.

>>520831691
i already had a cell phone since the late 90s. these things are necessary for modern life, and most professions.

the issue is not the "microphone in your clothes" (for non-schizos) but rather the fact that people have decided to make a totally subpar way of interacting with computers and the internet their go-to.

>>520802158 (OP)
Outside of my workday I refrain from using the internet and my phone for anything but calls, photos, and texting with self-control. Sometimes I indulge but usually I try to earn it by practicing an instrument or reading to my children. I don't understand how a person can motivate themselves to exercise but can't motivate themselves to stop doom scrolling or jacking off to cuck porn.

My 7 year old daughter says she wants a dumb phone though, and she wants to be a bartender in a mountain town that you have to use a snowmobile to access in the Winter. She's a character though, born to be a banjo picking luddite married to a Hemmingway-type.

>>520803505
Buy a niva

>>520831968
>these things are necessary for modern life
plus they are totally safe and effective!
enjoy your shrunken testicles and heart-nerve cancer
such is the price of "modern life"

I'm thinking about staching pharmaceuticals. Antibiotics, ivermectin, maybe some benzodiazepines when performing small surgeries? What else ?

>>520824803
Yes, you should. Books, news articles, music, movies and TV if that's your thing. The internet and society as a whole is getting clamped down on. If you don't have that data now, you might not ever. It's all free, and most of it is useful, why not take it?

>>520802158 (OP)
My carrier charges you more money to put a plan on a non smartphone

>>520833195
its crazy that people dont. you can have all of wikipedia downloaded, offline, for like, 100 gigs. you could have that shit in an afternoon. its like 2.1 billion pages or 3700 volumes without pictures. and you can fit 9 of these on a 1tb usb stick thats the size of a chapstick tube

>>520802158 (OP)
Well for one, a better memory. Reliance on technology is a crutch that reduces your own abilities.
Better spacial awareness as well. You'd maybe be surprised at how poor this skill is in gen z and even millennials. I grew up on paper maps, printed out directions, having to know which way is north, using a compass in the woods, ect. People younger than me can't wrap their heads around topographical maps. Actually, just maps in general, but especially topographical ones. You can tell them exactly where they're standing on the map, which way is north, and then ask them to point to a major land feature on a topographical map and they can't.
Anyways, major drawbacks is you won't know about any current events. At least not in a reliable, informed, close to truth way. You'll also have a harder time getting new information. Good hard media like a trustworthy encyclopedia lags behind current events and new technologies by at least a decade. If you needed to learn a new skill or how a certain thing worked, good fucking luck.
Counter argument, people have unlimited resources quite literally at their fingertips and don't use it in a productive manner at all.
So you'll probably be better off.

All i want is a flip phone + whatsapp. That's it. Why is that so hard? The meagre offerings that cover that are complete dogshit and stupidly rare and expensive.

>>520812261
>he makes food in a microwave

>>520809772
>$700
you could get a last gen flagship for half and have better everything

>>520802158 (OP)
I've starting hedging with low-tech, not necessarily dropping everything to go to low-tech though. I got a DVD player and an old SNES console for physical media and gaming which is a lot of fun.
I just assume sometime between now and the next 5 years there's going to be some unavoidable war or black swan event and the internet will be either restricted for non-business entities or be extremely slow and broken.

How would I uber?

>>520809772
>these things are necessary for modern life

>>520802158 (OP)
>dumb phone
This is how I know you're LARPing. The entire US deprecated 3G infrastructure years ago, and 4G is next.
>By 2028, most LTE channels are expected to be decommissioned. By 2035, LTE will be fully shut down nationwide.
>Starting January 2026, T-Mobile will only allow new device activations if they support true 5G Standalone (SA) mode.

They are deliberately destroying and altering functional infrastructure in order to force purchases of new phones and new service plans. It's as if the electrical utility was privately owned by appliance manufacturers and they changed their grid frequency every ten years to only be compatible with new production.

I tried looking for a new 4G/5G dumbphone and the best I could find was a flip model with giant buttons for seniors with dementia, but it had all of the downsides of a smartphone with none of the benefits. If you live in the US, you just have to ditch the concept of mobile phones entirely.

>>520835814
You don't you mongoloid

You either figure it out on your own how to get there or you don't go

>>520836581
I don’t want to drink and drive.

>>520835274
Yeah it's pretty pricey. They claim to provide repair services and long term support, but Samsung does LTS and you can run a minimal launcher too. Still, I like the idea. The last one had an e ink screen, which sadly they got rid of in the new one
>>520836085
Kek

>>520836744
Then drink and walk?
Bicycle?
Skateboard?
Jetpack?


Or you could call a cab with your phone. Every bar has a cab service on call pretty much, they'll even let you call from their phone

>>520836274
Thats not the only reason.
Frequency bandwidth is a finite resource. If something is using it then nothing else can, meaning its reserved for that one thing in the case of tech like 3/4/5G
So when you stop using 3G and consumers move onto 4G? Thats an opportunity to free up bandwidth for other applications and net the government a fat stack of cash while doing so

> "you see this MP3 Player?"
> *sniff*
> "It's my entire childhood"
> *sniff*

I would like to blame parents for raising such retarded people but it's obviously cultural and genetic.

>>520802158 (OP)
Just get e-ink phone, that way you can still read stuff to continue learning and you can still listen to music at the gym. You can't really watch videos or do other time waisting things because the experience is terrible.. but you can still have maps THINK and a good enough camera.

>>520802158 (OP)
>low tek punk
this is going to be a new trend wave mark my words.
here is some food for thought: technological progress is not perfectly linear, sometimes technologies are abandoned prematurely because of societal or economical reasons, e.g. the fax machine (only caught on in japan because they like to draw), steam heating (adopted in nyc but then discarded for electric and gas). there was a german company who specialized in making type writers and they were built to last a thousand years, miracles of engineering but super heavy and most tech nowadays needs to he cheap and mobile aka made from plastic. anyways my point is that there should be a trend to focus on the quality of tech instead of just quantity. technically, if we wanted we could build computers and cellphones made from such high quality materials and so repairable and so modular that they would last forever and could be handed down from generation to generation but that would implode the line-go-up-forever economy which needs to sell more and more stuff faster and faster.

I've been learning bookbinding for the past few years.
Doing it right can preserve books even in a total flood. Also Etsy whores love to buy bound books.

>>520820702
it is a bit of everything really, a buffet of privacy invasion.
>>520828695
>they have satellites that can read a book from space now so you have no privacy by default.
you sure do seem cavalier making that statement...as you lick your lips hungry for your next make-work privacy trampling bullshit feature rollout nobody asked for or wanted.
as an American citizen (if you are one) you really do have privacy by default, and when people like you forget that as they climb the corporate tech world of greed for that next promotion, writing that malicious and privacy invading intrusive line of code violating American Civil Liberties, that you may be better suited mentally and geographically for the tyranny of a third world dictatorship, than being an American citizen..
your blasé attitude about privacy speaks volumes to me about you, and i find your kind to be everything structurally and morally wrong with the rights trampling modern tech world attitude.

>>520802158 (OP)
Going low tech is the wrong move.
What you need to do is develop the habits of a 1995-2010 netizen, which are:
-Computers are supposed to be complex, not simple.
-Networks (dark, overlay, etc) beat clouds.
-Eschew mobile for desktop paradigms.
-No file? You don't possess the media.
-Easy Button™ == Rapes your angus.

>>520803443
I own digital versions of everything I want, because I know how to VPN and Bittorrent and ...

INSTALL QUBES!

>>520826219
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White boys should all be femboys

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>>520839668
you talk the talk..do you walk the walk?

>>520802158 (OP)
Wish we could go back to around this time period and just fucking stay there

>>520839987
buddy
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fuck this guy eh ha you think me know me pal
buddy hey lemme tell you something...

I am the real deal here. what you see is what you get and when you mess with the bulls
hey news flash lil donnie
you gonna get the horns

so to answer your question just to prove it to you

i am going to go outside to my shithole dumpster fire of a town called brampton and take a shit

RIGHT ON THE FUCKING STREET

that will fucking show you all who is boss around here