Thread 521155891

Why are they making a movie about a kangaroo court?

do we REALLY need another holohoax movie?

>>521155891 (OP)
Yes, but it also had kino lines from the German leadership. Is this movie solely about Goering?

>>521155891 (OP)
It was a sham in that a lot of war criminals were never tried because they were useful to the Allies. E.g. Von Braun. Most of West Germany high ranking officers were also former Nazi officers.

>>521155891 (OP)
If you don’t regularly remind people about the Holocaust then people might forget about it - or worse, think about it. It’s like how the media had to pump gay shit into our veins to make us love it, and it only took a year-long disruption to make people exhausted on it.

>>521155894
>It was a sham in that a lot of war criminals were never tried because they were useful to the Allies. E.g. Von Braun
What does a war criminal even mean? How is Arthur Harris, who was also known by his own soldiers as 'the butcher' for careslessly sending them to the slaughter, not a war criminal? The reality is if you win, you aren't a war criminal.

>>521155891 (OP)
big criminals were never tried
some where tried with evidence that doesnt hold up in any court
some where tortured to plead guilty

Nuremberg wouldnt work anywhere today without massive outrage

You people are fucking INSANE to defend these evil maniacs. They literally had documented evidence of war crimes at these trials. Not to the mention the 8.4 million jews that perished at the hands of these mongrels. All of you need to be medicated and placed in an asylum

there is no way this movie is coming anywhere close to the god tier predecessor
>>521155898
also many convicted ended up released way before the end of their sentences

>>521155896
That’s the precise time to do it, my local museum is doing an Auschwitz exhibit.

>>521155891 (OP)
Shittiness of the trial comes mostly from
1. Jews pulling a blanket of genocide in the international discourse, even though more slavs were genocided by germans
2. Burgeroids pulling as much nazis away from the noose as they could because half of burgeroids are of german descent

We basically can't trust anything they told us about the time period

>>521155898
>some where tried
Nice try, Rajeep

>>521155902
we needed their secret Nazi space tech

>>521155904
SAAR
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tried

>>521155903
You can always read actual documents. You have to be mentally ill to believe that every document is faked and for no reason at all Poles, Ukrainians, Jews, Russians, Brits, Americans, and even many Germans lied about Nazi war crimes.

>>521155905
No, you needed more cocksuckers to staff the cocksucker meat wave battalions that were supposed to attack through Fulda after the carpet nuke bombings of civilian targets like Speidel

>>521155907
Surely the Katyn Massacre was the only instance of dishonesty and impropriety during the post-war criminal investigations.

>>521155909
Except Katyn massacre wasn't accepted as a German war crime. There was no evidence the Germans did this.

>>521155907
>You can always read actual documents
Exactly. And since I've read the actual documents I now know that the Nazis were the good guys. Unfortunately most of the 'Nazis bad' type people's sole information is wikipedia pages. But I guess that's changing with the youth. The propaganda no longer works.
https://streamable.com/7ltusw

>>521155910
Despite irregularities, the Allies were forced to accept the Soviet version of events for decades, due to the diplomatic consequences of acknowledging the alternative at the height of the cold war. One of the German soldiers indicted by a Soviet court for the massacre would later claim that he confessed under torture.

>The Soviet inclusion of Katyn massacre in Nuremberg was based on an expectation that, based on Article 21 of the IMT Charter, the Tribunal "should take judicial notice of official government documents" requiring no "proof of facts"

>>521155906
Sandeep, he was referring to your use of the word 'where'. Better luck next time.

>>521155891 (OP)
>all statements from allies accepted as truth and the guilt of the germans is not up for debate, just how much each person is responsible
>torture and mutilated all nazis with forced confessions that had balls crushed and other horrors

im sure its legit and all of these things will be addressed.

>>521155902
The holocaust story didn't even start getting pushed until the 60s after the Eichmann trial.

>>521155911
>I read
Yeah, I'm sure you read all those volumes, lol.
>One of the German soldiers indicted by a Soviet court for the massacre would later claim that he confessed under torture.
That didn't happen.

>>The Soviet inclusion of Katyn massacre in Nuremberg was based on an expectation that, based on Article 21 of the IMT Charter, the Tribunal "should take judicial notice of official government documents" requiring no "proof of facts"
And yet no one was actually convicted for Katyn.

>>521155900
look at this kino transition into english
https://youtu.be/J1LLDr-BoRs?si=BxDLcJgqXFClQ8Gx&t=1003

>>521155891 (OP)
it's the prequel for the Pope's Exorcist where Russel's character finds Christ, makes amends for past wrongdoings and fakes his death with the help of a sympathetic priest

>>521155914
>>torture and mutilated all nazis with forced confessions that had balls crushed and other horrors
The only one mentioning this was Van Roden. It was a different trial, not part of Nuremberg trials.
Also:
>Van Roden denied under oath ever making statements found in the article, including the specific claim about 137 cases of damaged testicles.[19]
>In May and June 1949, Van Roden indicated that he had been misquoted in the statements that 137 Germans had been "kicked in the testicles beyond repair" and that this was "standard operating procedure."
There's no other mention of ball breaking so you obviously refer to this one. Naturally you're naive and was brainwashed by neo-nazis so you never actually checked how reliable is this info.

>>521155915
Except there are Polish reports from 1942 talking about extermination of Jews.

>>521155899
the british and russians starved millions to death and the americans nuked millions of civillians, where were their trials?

>>521155915
All of ww2 discourse in the west is pretty much limited to holocaust (only in the definition of genocide of only jews) and whatever the biggest military operation this or that country had and is limited exclusively to the western front and maybe 1 or 2 battles in the pacific. Eastern front is seen exclusively through german sources and some kremlinologist schizophrenic babble some boomers came up in 1960s after sniffing coke in some golf club.

>>521155891 (OP)
>Edgar N. Eisenhower: "I think the Nuremberg trials are a black page in the history of the world...I discussed the legality of these trials with some of the lawyers and some of the judges who participated therein. They did not attempt to justify their action on any legal ground, but rested their position on the fact that in their opinion, the parties convicted were guilty...This action is contrary to the fundamental laws under which this country has lived for many hundreds of years, and I think cannot be justified by any line of reasoning."
>Admiral Dan Gallery: "This kangaroo court at Nuremberg was officially known as the 'International Military Tribunal.' That name is a libel on the military profession. The tribunal was not a military one in any sense. The only military men among the judges were the Russians... At Nuremberg, mankind and our present civilization were on trial, with men whose own hands were bloody sitting on the judges' seats. One of the judges came from the country which committed the Katyn Forest massacre and produced an array of witnesses to swear at Nuremberg that the Germans had done it."
>Representative Lawrence H. Smith: "The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history."
>Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas: "I thought at the time and still think that the Nuremberg trials were unprincipled. Law was created ex post facto to suit the passion and clamor of the time."

>>521155919
early reports of the extermination of jews....whatever happened there
>A Polish underground report sent to London on 31 March 1943 asserted that Treblinka was equipped “probably” with 100 (!) gas chambers. Another report sent with the same batch stated that three murder methods were used at Treblinka: Initially, the deportees were shot with machine guns, then they were steamed in steaming chambers, and finally they were killed during transit in Jan-Karski-style trains with floors covered with quicklime.

>>521155916
Arno Dürre. Convicted by Soviet Courts for his role in the massacre alongside other Germans, who were sentenced to death. His false confession allowed him to avoid execution but his testimony was disallowed at Nuremburg due to irregularities.

>And yet no one was actually convicted for Katyn.
Not at Nuremburg specifically, but it shows that in these war crime trials truth takes a backseat to political pragmatism.

>>521155899
how dare you forget the 12 million jewish lives lost, you antisemite revisionist
>>521155919
he denied under oath after being threatened with having his balls crushed if he didn't renounce the truth

>>521155919
>Except there are Polish reports from 1942 talking about extermination of Jews
Weird that none of Churchill, FDR, or de Gaulle bothered to make any mention of it it any of their accounts of WWII.
Weird that the Nazis never bothered to make it public knowledge to Germans when Hitler was a populist, Jews were massively unpopular, and they didn't expect to lose the war anyway and thus wouldn't have faced a trial by virtue of winning.
Weird that if they were keeping it secret they never bothered mentioning it using the Enigma which they didn't know had been cracked until after the war.
But, hey, who am I to argue with "Polish reports" from 1942 because who knows what goes on over there? Russian newspapers even knew the 6m target in the 19th century before anyone had a clue who Hitler was and further mor-, or wait I'm getting sidelined by a different coincidence.
You fucking Jewish rat.

>>521155891 (OP)
One of the most lenient war trials ever btw.

>>521155927
ok libtard

>>521155928
It’s true. I’m objective. You’re not.

>>521155897
War crimes are only a tool for the winner to flaunt around some more and stick it to the loosing side some more while ignoring their own war crimes.

>>521155929
>charging someone with crimes based on laws that either don't apply to you for technical or reasons or that you straight up ignore
wow, so true and objective

>>521155891 (OP)
The goys must not forget who their owners are hello

>>521155931
International law was already long established which the Nazis objectively broke. Only the few top leaders were executed though. Due to fear of estranging the Germans, they wanted the German public on their side. They went really easy on the nazis.

>>521155930

This lol. It's fucking war. The point is to kill the other side until they give up. There are no "crimes." Only degrees to which you're willing to go to win. And then the winner wins and gets to showboat by holding trials and writing books about how evil the loser was.

I don't mind Germany getting punished for losing the war and being the aggressor but dog and pony show trials are fake and gay, just take your winnings and move on

>>521155933
>International law was already long established which the Nazis objectively broke.
you're simply ignorant
>The selective prosecution exclusively of the defeated Axis and hypocrisy of all four Allied powers has garnered the most persistent criticism. Such actions as the German–Soviet pact, the expulsion of millions of Germans from central and eastern Europe, deportation of civilians for forced labor, and violent suppression of anti-colonial uprisings would have been deemed illegal according to the definitions of international crimes in the Nuremberg charter. Another controversy resulted from trying defendants for acts that were not criminal at the time, particularly crimes against peace. Equally novel but less controversial were crimes against humanity, the conspiracy charge, and criminal penalties on individuals for breaches of international law.

The American and Soviets already poached all the Nazi scientists and strategists they wanted. These were the leftovers they could lay blame on.

Informative 70-minute documentary about the Nuremberg trials:
holocausthandbooks.com/video/the-holocaust-proven-at-nuremberg/

Further information on the trials:
holocaustencyclopedia.com/legal/trial/international-military-tribunal/

See also:
youtube.com/watch?v=6as_PprWngQ

>YOU DIDN'T TREAT THE NAZIS FAIRLY
Having any kind of trial at all for the aggressors AND the losers of multiple wars across the world is grace enough. Russia should be turned to radioactive glass, by the way.

>>521155938
that's not how laws work you vindictive fuck.

>>521155939
Laws prevented us from rightfully exterminating the Germans.

>>521155941
you didn't have the manpower or the stones to exterminate millions of people

We know now that Germany were the good guys and the lies of Nuremberg were about making sure the jews got to have their own country. It worked too.

>>521155925
I'm reporting to you to ADLFBI for daring to minimize the 18 million jews that were electrocuted into dust on huge industrial floors. No we never found these electrical floors and that's another charge just for asking bigot!

>>521155903
For the most part the accused didn't really deny the charges, only their complicity. There were literally tens of thousands of witnesses, and most of the charges weren't for anything like 'did a holocaust'
they were aggressive war and enslaving conquered people. Both were done in public, and against treaties that Germany was party too.

If Germany signs treaties over and over again promising not to invade their neighbors, they can't bitch when their leadership hangs for it.

>>521155945
wow i sure am glad that britain and russia never conducted aggressive wars and enslaved their neighbours!!!

>>521155891 (OP)
Because it's been too long since the last "oy vey white devil don't forget about muh holocost remember the 8 million (new revised figure; more Jews, less "others)"

Also any "war court" held by the victor against the loser will ALWAYS be a kangaroo court. Why the fuck would the Allies be totally transparent and lose home morale? "Yes the Japs and Nazis did war atrocities BUT so did we also we granted clemency in exchange for the research and medical data obtained from those war atrocities" I'm sure this would go over well with the general public. Of course this is all public knowledge now but any good politician knows that, given a few generations, you can get away with anything since people will no longer care.

>>521155921
I dunno Churchill wrote 7 volumes about WW2 thousands and thousands of pages and never mentioned the holocaust once.
Same with De Gaulle. There was at least 1 US university that used the swastika as it's Yearbook title up until the early 1970s. There's no way they were using "le evil holocaust symbol" for 30 years after the war. Everything we've been told is a lie.

>>521155946
It would be really dumb if Britain or Russia signed a treaty with a stronger neighbor promising to never ever invade them or face death, and then invade them and face death :(

>>521155949
>might makes right, weak makes wrong
wow, a legal and moral precedent for the ages. i heckin' love our post-war liberal consensus!!!

>>521155950
They agreed that if they invade their European neighbors they would be liable to hang.... Do you think they were too stupid to read the treaty? Why are you so butthurt.

>>521155951
oh my bad i thought the nazis had done something morally wrong, not failed to abide by the fine print of a legal contract

>>521155952
It is morally wrong to violate treaties and break promises, even a 12 year old knows this.

>>521155953
>breaking promises is a moral crime that deserves the death penalty
incredible

>>521155954
If you break a promise that causes millions of deaths? yes.

>>521155954
Also the Germans hung 50,000 of their own for abdication of duty, so I guess they thought so too : (

>>521155937
The original #MeToo

>>521155955
the crime there would be causing millions of death like the allies did
>>521155956
>the Germans hung 50,000 of their own for "breaking a promise", which is the totality of what "abdication of duty" means
incredible

>>521155958
>Promise not to invade you
>Join treaties that say if I invade you I am guilty and deserve death
>Promise not to invade you again
>invade you
>if you defend yourself, you're just as guilty!!!

ok retard.

>>521155959
they didn't say that and that's not a moral argument

>>521155891 (OP)
Yeah they went soft on the nazis

>>521155961
they went even softer on themselves!

>>521155891 (OP)
so you dont forget about the holobunga in the dark times of rising antisemitism

If Nuremberg was a legitimate court and its charges are legitimate then every single US and Israeli solider is a war criminal.
Choose wisely

>>521155962
Disingenious and dishonest comment

>>521155964
Even individual german soldiers that participated in anti-partisans activities etc were not charged though.

>>521155965
see;
>>521155935

Kek, it's cute reading the same garbage denial nonsense in every thread. Nothing new, just the same crap found in twitter neo-Nazi infographics.

>>521155948
Why do you think it's even important that Churchil wrote about this or not? How is this relevant?
By the way:

> Crimes were committed by the Germans under the Hitlerite domination to which they allowed themselves to be subjugated find no equal in scale and wickedness with any that have darkened the human record. The wholesale massacre of by systematised processes of six or seven millions of men, women, and children in the German execution camps exceeds in horror the rough-and-ready butcheries of Genghis Khan, and in scale reduces them to pygmy proportions.

Winston Churchill, The Second World War: Volume 1: The Gathering Storm, p. 14, 1948

>>521155966
Why are you lying? The Germans were still prosecuting secretaries at alleged death camps as recently as a couple of years ago

>>521155968
>Crimes were committed by the Germans under the Hitlerite domination to which they allowed themselves to be subjugated find no equal in scale and wickedness with any that have darkened the human record. The wholesale massacre of by systematised processes of six or seven millions of men, women, and children in the German execution camps exceeds in horror the rough-and-ready butcheries of Genghis Khan, and in scale reduces them to pygmy proportions.
damn almost as bad as the famines and suppressions of anti-colonial uprisings the british carried out under churchill. oh but let me guess, le famines are le different according to the gay rules the allies came up with

>>521155969
oh... then point me to the Israeli and US death camps then. There's a reason I referenced anti-partisan activities where Germans punished entire towns for the actions of a few terrorists/partisans. Because that's the closer analogy to US and Israeli actions.

>>521155970
Irrelevant. You said that he never mentioned the holocaust, but here it is.

>>521155968
oh no wait, i just got it. if there's someone who carries out atrocities at a greater SCALE then all the atrocities carried out at a lesser scale by the people who fight that guy get cancelled out. what a wonderful system liberalism is!!!

>>521155970
Two wrongs don't make a right womp womp

>>521155973
Would you be crying and bitching if the tribals rose up and hung Churchill because they all didn't hang eachother for brutal tirbal warfare?
Sounds like you're just screeching and seething. Even the accused at Nuremberg weren't so indigent and pathetic as you.

>>521155971
Gaza is literally a death camp and it’s disgusting that you pretend otherwise. The Israelis brag about biological warfare during the Nakba. They had riots in the streets two years ago when the government was going to lightly prosecute an Israeli soldier for raping Palestinian POWs.

>>521155972
churchill was a mad butcher in no position to lecture anyone on morality and atrocities and your pedantic point is irrelevant
>>521155974
if one wrong is punished and another isn't, even if they're of the same type, then clearly what is being punished is not "wrongs" but something else
>>521155975
i mean it's obvious i hate liberal democracy for other reasons and not because it carried out atrocities. i just don't want to be lectured by libs or want libs to exist

>>521155976
ok now where's the US death camp

>>521155976
>Conquer sinai
>Give it back
>Egypt refuses to take back a city
>people that live in that city keep blowing up civillians and shooting rockets at you
>put a fence between you and them
>egypt also puts a fence between them and gaze
>keep supplying them electricity and water for decades

and this is equivalent to conquering all the nations around you and then rounding up Jews and shipping them into death camps? Or putting them in ghettos and flame throwing them to death?

You do know that Gaza borders other nations than just Israel right? How the fuck is it a 'DEATH CAMP'???

>>521155977
>churchill was a mad butcher in no position to lecture anyone on morality and atrocities and your pedantic point is irrelevant

then why did you claim that he didn't mention it if its pedantic and irrelevant? retard?

According to the Rome Statute, there are eleven types of crimes that can be charged as crimes against humanity when they are "committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population":[4][24]
Murder;
Extermination [including "the intentional infliction of conditions of life, inter alia the deprivation of access to food and medicine, calculated to bring about the destruction of part of a population"];
Enslavement;
Deportation or forcible transfer of population;
Imprisonment or other severe deprivation of physical liberty in violation of fundamental rules of international law;
Torture;
Rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, enforced sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence of comparable gravity;
Persecution against any identifiable group or collectivity on political, racial, national, ethnic, cultural, religious, gender as defined in paragraph 3, or other grounds that are universally recognized as impermissible under international law, in connection with any act referred to in this paragraph or any crime within the jurisdiction of the Court;
Enforced disappearance of persons;
The crime of apartheid;
Other inhumane acts of a similar character intentionally causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health.

>>521155980
i'm obviously not the guy you were replying to, dipshit. we don't even have the same writing style

>>521155981
These are the 11 criminal acts that define crimes against humanity.
The US and Israel have committed many of these crimes. Pretending to be stupid in service of this makes you an accomplice.

>>521155983
No they haven't, and the Nazis shipped civilians into camps to enslave and kill them.

>>521155984
Lmao there it is, the pretending to be stupid that I talked about

>>521155985
Let's go down the list for the US shall we
>Murder
like systematic widescale murder? no
>Extermination
no
>Enslavement
no
>Deportation or forcible transfer
no
>Imprisonment without cause etc
no
>Torture
medium amount of torture, I would argue not systematic or widespread.
>Rape
no
>Persecution on protected classes
no
>Disapperances
idk, doubt it
>apartheid
no

so no, but Nazi Germany is guilty of almost all of those things.

>>521155986
>murder
Vietnam
>deportations
Multiple South Pacific island communities, currently deporting dissidents
>imprisonment
Guantanamo
>torture
Guantanamo/CIA black sites
>disappearances
Extraordinary renditions by CIA
>apartheid
Jim Crow laws
You just have a selective memory, are stupid, or are lying because you’re jewish.

Hitler was Indian at heart. He wore the swastika, declared himself Aryan, fought the Britishers, and the Nazis were pagan LARPers. (The Nordic pantheon is literally Hindu shit transmutated and separated by thousands of years)

So really, I’m just gonna assume most people on the internet defending Hitler were at the poopfest, because statistically it’s pretty likely to be a Jeet based on population size alone.

>>521155987
Systematic murder of civilians in Vietnam? Or war crimes that we already prosecuted our own for?

Imprisonment is not without cause in Guantanamo. Also majority of the inmates there we are trying to release but their own home countries don't want them back. Hardly extra-legal or arbitrary imprisonment.

Extraordinary disappearances by the CIA is not the same as systematic program of disappearances

Jim Crow laws were not the same as apartheid

>>521155986
>UHMMMM ACCORDING TO THESE LAWS WE CAME UP WITH WE'RE NOT GUILTY OF ANY CRIMES!!!
what a coincidence! i wonder if indirectly causing a famine is a crime against humanity or propping up a dictator who carries out crimes against humanity or dropping a nuke on a major city??? i'm going to guess no, what a shocker!!!

>>521155990
seethe?

>>521155987
>DO NOT REDEEM THE HOLOCAUST SAAR *throws poop at computer screen*
Curse Vishnu

>>521155988
you're making indians sound based
>>521155989
>Imprisonment is not without cause in Guantanamo. Also majority of the inmates there we are trying to release but their own home countries don't want them back. Hardly extra-legal or arbitrary imprisonment.
>Extraordinary disappearances by the CIA is not the same as systematic program of disappearances
>Jim Crow laws were not the same as apartheid
see;
>UHMMMM ACCORDING TO THESE LAWS WE CAME UP WITH WE'RE NOT GUILTY OF ANY CRIMES!!!
>>521155991
seething with laughter at the idea that the west thinks we're gullible enough to believe that there's a significant non-technical difference between apartheid and jim crow!

>>521155993
But we didn't charge the Nazis with any of this nitpicking bullshit. We charged them with the enslavement and murder of millions? Do you think anyone is going to fall for this whataboutism?

>>521155992
Why do you think it’s intelligent to keep changing the subject to the Holocaust which I never denied? My only point is that the Nuremberg trials are bullshit because if you take them seriously the US and Israel have committed multiple crimes against humanity by their own laws. If you wanna be a fag Zionist and just gloss over it that’s your prerogative but don’t act like it has any principle, truth, or honor about it.

>>521155995
and where are the charges for the murders of millions carried out by the british empire and the americans? where are the charges for mass forced labour carried out by the russians? oh wait it's because according to the "laws" the allies came up with if you have enough layers of distance between you and a crime or just pretend to be a cretinous moron who causes a famine on accident you can get away with murder!

>>521155997
>some criminals dont get punished for their crimes ergo no criminals should ever be punished for their crimes
stop pretending this is your argument. it's not

you are just a nazi simp, that's all. why cant you losers just own it.
BE a nazi, openly. admit it already, pussy

>Imprisonment is not without cause in Guantanamo
Okay imprisonment and execution was not without cause at Dachau. What kind of stupid argument is this lmao

>>521155998
>some criminals dont get punished for their crimes ergo no criminals should ever be punished for their crimes
uhhhh the point is actually that liberals aren't even seen as criminals, not that they're just very good at evading punishment for their crimes you retard. and that is because they define what counts as a crime and have placed plenty of workarounds that allow them to get away with what is practically the same criminal behaviour-see israel. if you can't understand that then you're a tard
>you are just a nazi simp, that's all.
i just don't like liberals, actually.

>>521155999
Do you think that's how the world works? The law is non too stupid and autistic to distinguish between arresting someone who aided and abetted a rebel group with intelligence or bomb making expertise vs rounding up families wholesale and murdering them and working them to death.

We didn't charge every German cop or internal security service at Nuremburg... We charged them for the wholesale murder and enslavement of millions. Stop making intentionally obtuse equivalences.

You're comparing Guantanamo to Dachau? Guantanamo is extensively monitored and abuse of inmates will get you thrown in military prison. There's a reason the inmates routinely troll the fuck out of the guards. Because we can't just randomly murder them... And also we didn't throw their wives and children in there with them. RETARD

>>521156001
oh my fucking god the liberal is unironically defending gitmo now. beneath contempt

>>521156001
Get a load of this fuckin guy lmao jesus anon you’ve gone off the rails of pretending to be stupid into full on crater brain territory

>>521155942
Tell that to all the faggot werhraboos who cry about German civilians choosing to swim in molten asphalt in Dresden fucking weirdo Germans and their molten asphalt fetish.

>EEERMMMM AKSHYALLY the allies also did bad things and EEERRRRMMMM relatively speaking the nazis were not as bad. IF I MAY INTERJECT EEEERRRMMM here's my dishonest bad faith 'argument' to muddy the waters full of dog whistles

You can't argue with nazis. It's like arguing with someone who wants to kill you. Nazis only use debate dishonestly and as a means to ultimately shut all debate down when they take power. They don't believe in debate and trial

That's the REAL REASON why the nurmberg trials made no sense. You can't try someone who doesn't believe in debate. But liberals are just so kind and good desperately humanist believing everyone can be saved. Those nazis should have been given to Israel to deal with as they please.


It's the golden rule
>Treat others like you want to be treated
This should have been applied to the nazis instead of giving them trials lmao.
>>521156000
>i just don't like liberals, actually.
Liberals were waaaay too kind to nazis. And still are. It's really annoying.
Why treat someone who hates liberalism, in a liberal way? Makes no sense.
I hope libs wake up one day

>>521155892
yes
boomers almost dead
got to renew the license
but it won't work because no one under 40 watches live action movies anymore

>>521156003
>>521156002
not an argument. You compared gitmo to Dachau when they are utterly incomparable.
We didn't charge the germans for arresting partisans btw. The germans had a thousand gitmos. We didn't charge them for that

>>521155897
Exactly, the entire idea of "war crimes" is ridiculous. I'd you aren't holding every one of them down to the last soldier to answer what the fuck is the point? "Mass murder is a-okay but you have to do it the right way", bullshit
>>521155899
>to defend these evil maniacs
The evil maniacs who ran these "trials"? Yeah, I don't know how anyone could defend them

>>521155947
It was 6 million! Not one more not one less. The part I find most hilarious is they were already bandying about the 6 million jews number in the 1920s. Pretty prescient they knew that exactly the correct number of jews would die so they could go home that's how special they are chud.

>>521156004
>tens of thousands of civillians killed with bombs by cowards
gaza or dresden?
>>521156005
>But liberals are just so kind and good desperately humanist believing everyone can be saved.
fellas, is the most murderous ideology in human history kind and good? i don't think so
>Liberals were waaaay too kind to nazis. And still are. It's really annoying.
you have no ability to construct or follow an argument or define what a nazi is. someone who actually takes the anti-colonialist positions you woke libtards pretended to take seriously is not a nazi!!! hope this helps!
>>521156007
wow technical pedantry from a libtard who defends gitmo using laws and principles he came up with? what a shocker!
even if that were true liberals are emphatically

>>521156010
>wow technical pedantry
you're the one pasting lists of laws in here to try and defend Nazi crimes. No amount of words you type will absolve their guilt.

>>521155959
>Promise not to let Poland be invaded
>leave Poland in Soviet hands at the end of the war
Good thing we don't hang retards anon.

>>521156010
>BAD LIBERALS tried the nazis like humans instead of putting them in death camps, starving them to death and then gassing them
>BAD LIBS
this is your argument, nazi simp

i pointed about that hiroshima and nagasaki were technically war crimes, according to the nuremberg laws, that no one was charged for and I get called a nazi. liberals are unironically too stupid to understand their own supposed principles
>>521156011
again, i'm a different person

>>521156014
But we didn't charge the Nazis for bombing warsaw or london though. L

>>521156010
even after their got their pedo potus elected nazi freaks still need to use this level of sophistry and coyness
the libs may allow you by law to be a nazi, but socially speaking you will never be accepted, loser freak

>>521156013
liberals also starved people to death lmao, that's the entire fucking point. you are too dim to follow an argument.
>>521156015
no shit, because that would make the fact that no one was charged for dresden even more ridiculous. the point is both sides killed civilians at comparable scales but only one side was ever charged. that is a bad thing, because that suggests the reason they were charged was not because of the actual crimes, doesn't it!
>>521156016
>unable to engage with the substance of any actual argument
yup, it's a libtard. anarchists and socdems are libtards btw

>>521156017
>the point is both sides killed civilians at comparable scales but only one side was ever charged

Is there a difference between shipping civillians from all over the place into one death camp so they can be killed and bombing economic targets knowing many civillians will die?

>>521155989
>Jim Crow laws were not the same as apartheid
Oh so you're just being a disingenuous faggot okay opinion discarded.

i think it's wonderful how libtards have shown that despite their shallow declarations of allegiance to anti-colonialist principles they will completely refuse to accept any actual anti-colonialist arguments that don't absolve liberalism of any guilt for colonialist crimes
>>521156018
no not really

>>521156017
>liberals also have done bad stuff
the nazis entire ideology is about extermination
liberal ideology is not about extermination, regardless what anglo-saxon americans did in its name
EVERY nazi is guilty of nazi crimes by virtue of supporting a nazi exterminationist ideology.
Not every liberal is guilty if a liberal does something bad.

that's the point, nazi simp.

>>521155914
Your BDSM fantasies didn't happen

>>521155986
>like systematic widescale murder? no
Literally every war ever
>Enslavement
They call it "conscription"

>>521156020
Who the fuck is talking about colonialism? I can support colonialism and still be against the murder of millions of people for no reason but their ethnicity... Nobodies colonial empires were that pointlessly murderous or cruel.

>>521156020
>no not really
Well most people would disagree with you even if they had qualms about bombing cities. Just like we treat manslaughter as different to first degree murder. The law is quite nuanced.

>>521155976
You're brown

Jews hijacked the WW2 tragedy downplayed the suffering of other people and made it solely about themselves.
But at this point its been almost 80 years. Get fucking over yourselves holocaust misery porn genre has been done to death.

>>521155891 (OP)
the good guys lost ww2

Threadly reminder that Jesse Owens was treated better in Germany then in the USA
>Jesse Owens faced more discrimination in the United States than in Nazi Germany, despite Hitler's racist ideology
>In Germany, he was allowed to stay in the same hotels as white athletes and rode in the front of the bus, while upon returning to the U.S., he was denied entry to white-only hotels and had to use a freight elevator at a reception held in his honor. Owens was also snubbed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who never invited him to the White House, a stark contrast to the public celebrations he received in Berlin.
>Treatment in Nazi Germany
>Integration: Owens was allowed to stay in the same accommodations as white athletes and could travel in the front of the bus.
>Hitler's reaction: Hitler did not publicly congratulate Owens after his victories, but this was due to the International Olympic Committee's rules that heads of state should either congratulate all winners or none. Owens stated he was not snubbed by Hitler, but rather by the American president.

>>521156005
Yes, they also committed the crime of engaging in war. If there was to be a "war crime" trial it should've been held by a neutral power with BOTH SIDES as codefendants. They committed the same crime. Try every politician, officer and soldier for committing the war

>>521156029
>don't fight back just let us occupy your territory and systematically murder you

>>521156018
No, there is not. Really bombing a city is worse, it's just sudden death out of the sky

>>521156021
>liberal ideology is not about extermination
EHHHHHHHHH!!! WRONG!!! every liberal democracy gained its wealth through extermination, even if it is only the extermination of those who fight back against colonialism (and frequently, it was not, see amritsar and the opium wars). you have an albatross around your neck as the most bloody imperialists of human history that also expect to be loved and worshipped.
>Not every liberal is guilty if a liberal does something bad.
EHHHHHH!!! WRONG! all members of a liberal democracy are guilty of crimes committed by said liberal democracy because obviously without popular support of the system the system cannot commit crimes or create individuals who are incentivized to commit crimes. it is not netanyahu who drops the bombs, but every single liberal that supports the ideology that lets netanyahu drop bombs. in fact, liberalism's individualism and a lack of a concept of collective responsibility are why it has committed so many crimes and why it thinks it should get away with committing crimes!
>>521156024
>I can support colonialism
of course you would because you're a stupid libtard cracker

>>521156032
how brown are you?

>>521156030
>You invaded Poland so we're going to go to war with you so that we can leave Poland in the hands of the Soviet Union and that's okay
The absolute state of WW2 "good guy" defenders. The fact is wars don't have "good guys" no matter what your pederast teacher told you.

>>521156034
so should they have fought back or not?

>>521156028
I love that America was more based than germany

>>521156025
>>521156033
you're a nazoid

>>521156035
If the war was for Polish sovereignty it shouldn't have ended until the Polish people were free. The war was about destroying Germany and Japan so it ended when Germany and Japan were destroyed.
It was simply an inevitable sequel to World War 1 which was about destroying the continent something the UK always does for hundreds of years out of spite and jealousy. Threadly reminder that the protagonists in Edgar Allen Poe's Pit & The Pendulum were the French saving a man from Catholic torture. Yet you've also been conditioned all your life to see Napoleon as a "bad man" and the UK as "good" because you've been a victim of Anglo brain washing.

Pampered privileged western males having never seen a shred of hardship, having had all the information necessary, most likely a normal upbringing and knowing the history. In spite of all that still becoming nazis.
Such people are sick and something needs to be done about them. They don't deserve liberal treatment or freedom and democracy etc. Makes no sense, it's mental illness at this point to be like this, some kind of psychopathy?

>>521156039
real

>"This Oscar season"
>establishing shot of the Nuremberg court building
>Hermann comes harumpfing up the steps
>fade to black
>"One man"
>reveal of Crowe's sweaty face, zoom in
>"Bit off a little more than he could jew"
>Out of ze way, iz my testimony!
>Rap Remix of 'Erika' starts blasting
>flash back, birds eye shot of a dingy office, the camera spins on its axis as the music gets louder: Göring and his public defender lean over a desk buried under files and photographs
>'Oy Gevalt, Hermann, you built a rollercoaster to do what?!'
>"And his world is about to be flipped upside down"
>Hermann in full uniform on a podium, getting saluted by Wehrmacht soldiers
>snap cut
>Hermann in handcuffs on the witness bench
>music starts to skip back as we enter a montage interspliced with quick fades
>'Hitler's dead!'
>shot of der Führerbunker, smoldering rubble (Und Das Heisst)
>'Goebbles' dead!`
>close-up of wine bottle slipping out of a limp hand (Und Das Heisst)
>'Eichmann's God knows where!'
>monkey snatches a Luger from a table on a hacienda and jumps into the treetop canope (Und Das Heisst)
>'How are you gonna get out of this Schlamassel?'
>(music fades out)
>Göring suddenly grins and gets up from the witness bench
>'gas chamber? I'll show you a gas chamber!'
>turns and points his rear to the camera
>slo-mo shot of the jury trying to escape the blast zone
>earth shattering fart noise, music fades back in
>(EEEEEEEEERRIIIKAAAAAA)
>title card: Nuremberg
>the letters all swell up like balloons and pop
>the G zips across the frame and makes whoopie cushion noises as credits flash
>Rated PG

>>521156039
the history is that the allies committed equally bad crimes that were never prosecuted because the allies came up with the laws and carried out the trials. this is a pattern that has persisted up to the present day with the yugoslav trials and the netanyahu spectacle with the support of liberal principles and ideology. i'm sorry if you were just faking all that shit you said about colonialism, but i wasn't. i actually read all that maoist third-worldist shit you retarded lib, and the genie's not going back in the bottle.

>>521155899
>8.4 million
not gonna lie you had me in the first half

>>521156041
half of this is just the fatties: fart two

>>521156042
A lot of people here don't understand that the greatest crime of any war is that of losing. Everything else is a formality.

>>521155891 (OP)
It was a tribunal not a trial as such it didn't adhere to any standards of a trial so yes it was a sham

>>521156039
History is more complicated then the black and white good vs bad bullshit you peddle. I just like history and trying to dig into facts. You just want to push a modern narrative for political points. I'm surprised you haven't called us Huns or Vandals. Oh wait they're not spooky anymore. Somehow the Germans are worse then anyone ever ever. That's just not how humans work sweatie. The more you try and push your fake narrative the more people are going to rebel against it.
I bet you think all southern civil war statues need to come down because they're bad and lost? Then why does the UK have a statue of Cromwell? Because it's part of their history babe.

>>521156045
someone should tell that to liberals because they seem to think it's actually a bunch of other stuff like not having gender neutral bathrooms
>>521156047
wrong, it's actually even less complicated. the nazis were bad, liberals are worse, and liberal democracy needs to be overthrown and destroyed.

>>521156048
who asked nigga

>>521156046
This is correct. A tribunal is to an actual trial what WWE is to wrestling at the actual olympics.

>>521156049
generally the way discussion boards work is you try to discuss things by replying to people

>>521156047
>nothing is objectively good or bad
you nazis are insane lol

at the very least if you really believe nothing is good or bad morally, than at least you have to accept that it's logical that liberals get treated liberally and nazis get treated like nazis - ie put in camps
just in a Kantian sense, nazis should be treated like they treated the jews.

treat you like how you want to treat others
It's the golden rule of all religions too lol

>>521156041
Now this is the type of kino we'll never get to see thanks (((hollywood)))

>>521156052
lmao this is the tard who noped out after i posted this btw;
>>521156032
of course xhe is a kantian aka a lunatic

>>521155899
The fact that you refer to the International Military Tribunal as a "trial" is why I dismiss anything you have to say

>>521155891 (OP)
>Streicher was not a member of the military and did not take part in planning the Holocaust, or the invasion of other nations. Yet his actions during the war were significant enough, in the prosecutors' judgment, to include him in the trial of Major War Criminals before the International Military Tribunal
>Most of the evidence against Streicher came from his numerous speeches and articles over the years.
>In essence, prosecutors contended that Streicher's articles and speeches were so incendiary that he was an accessory to murder, and therefore as culpable as those who actually ordered the mass extermination of Jews.
>Streicher was acquitted of crimes against peace, but found guilty of crimes against humanity, and sentenced to death
Executing people for their speech I would say that qualifies as a sham

>NOOOO LIBERAL YOU HAVE TO LET ME USE YOUR DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS TO DESTROY THEM FROM WITHIN TO CREATE SOULLES WAR HUNGRY TOTALITARIAN REGIME #19823129374
sadly, the libs let them
it's very sad

>>521156056
>nazis pretending they care about muh free speech
i thought liberalism was bad wtf??

in reality you dont care about free speech, it's just a tool to shut down debate, democracy and to exeterminate people
here's an example

>well i think the government should have more taxes
>WTFFF WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT, COMMIE???
>Well because we could build roads bla bla

>well i think the jews are evil and should be exterminated
>WTFFF WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT, NAZI????
>because of free speech duuuh
bullshit

only liberals care about free speech which is why free speech should only apply to liberals
you dont get to have it, because you don't truly believe in it

>>521155892
if by we you mean (((we))) then yes, nothing but bad optics for the the last 2 years so anything to look like victims is in dire need

>>521156042
>allies committed equally bad crimes
They didn't. Not even close.

>>521156058
Executing someone for their speech is not even something the nations leading the tribunal did in-fact those nations had governmental policies of racism the issue here is the hypocrisy in them executing him for something that was freely tolerated by the nations and who themselves had systemic policies of a racist nature while he was just an individual

>>521156043
Its just post-covid inflation

>>521156017
>both sides killed civilians at comparable scales
It's 500,000 or so German civilians vs 12-14 million civilians killed by Germans and its allies (excluding war deaths, just deliberate starvation, extermination, shootings and so on).

>>521156061
>it's hypocritical to execute high ranking nazis - whose entire ideology and active work is about extermination
it would be hypocritical NOT to execute him. he literally asked for it. it's only fair he be treated how he wanted to treat others
treating open anti-liberals in anti-liberal ways is not hypocrisy

also you are a nazi simp, you don't get to yap about free speech and trials. you are so entitled

>>521156060
hiroshima and nagasaki? the bengal famine? the opium wars? the suppression of the indian mutiny? amritsar? every punitive expeditiion and robbery for the glory of empire, compensated by an influx of preachers to convert the heathens to christianity and save their souls? suck my nuts lib
>>521156063
>deliberate starvation
holy fucking shit, libs will say this with a straight face. oh my god, i'm glad the allies never carried out DELIBERATE starvations!!! i'm glad that they only massacred and executed ARMED colonial subjects!!! this is exactly my fucking point, that liberals defined what was and wasn't a crime. and lmao at you saying 500,000 german civillians as if that's what i was asking. how many civillians of any background did the allies KILL (not murder) in their long bloody colonial histories that liberals have worked so hard to exonerate them from?

>>521156063
Including expulsion it's around 1.2-1.5 million. And I'm including here Germans killed by the Nazis - victims of the euthanasia program (lowest estimate - 200,000).

>be a nazi that hates liberal society and wants it destroyed
>expect liberal society to make nice movies about nazis
can a nazi explain

>>521156064
>it would be hypocritical NOT to execute him. he literally asked for it. it's only fair he be treated how he wanted to treat others
Notice one is a reality and the other is a hypothetical given his crime was having the wrong ideas that were also shared by numerous of the same people who fought his countrymen, how come people like Lincoln Rockwell weren't executed? The hypocrisy surrounding the Allies is disgusting it's nothing more than winners writing history
>you don't get to yap about free speech and trials
The fact you can't distinguish a trial from a tribunal says a lot

>>521156058
>he thinks tax $ goes to building roads instead of killing brown people
You're not even living in reality.

>>521156067
i expect nothing from you monsters except your eventual brutal overthrow and humiliation

>>521156065
Are you brown? This is ridiculous. You shit on the colonial powers while praise Hitler who established the most brutal colonial state in Eastern Europe.
Do you have Western documents deliberately talking that starving 20 million people might be necessary?

>Many tens of millions of people in this country will become superfluous and will die or must emigrate to Siberia. Attempts to rescue the population there from death through starvation by obtaining surpluses from the black earth zone [...] prevent the possibility of Germany holding out till the end of the war.[10]

>>521156068
why should liberals extend free speech to people who openly hate free speech and liberalism?

I wonder if in the future there will be a fun piece of trivia like “Did you know that between WW2 and WW3 antisemitism was considered a bad thing”

>>521156072
Because those are your supposed principles and only remain as such when you follow them not only when it suits you to do so

why do nazis COVET to be treated like as if they were liberals?
no lmao

>>521156071
>whataboutism
damn i guess if the nazis carried out show trials i'd be very critical of them. it turns out that committing crimes and not being called a criminal is worse than committing crimes and then getting deleted from history.
>>521156072
because we had the ability to say these things for thousands of years captain retard. "free speech" is far more restrictive than the supposedly censored speech we used to have.

>>521156075
Nazis haven't existed for 80 years you retard but using a persons principles/morals/system against them is a standard practice when it comes to supplanting them the far-right does it, the far-left does it, Muslims do it, Jews do it

>>521156075
why do libtards think they are the sole source of laws and speech in human history and we should beg them for the right to exist lol? oh wait it's because they're pseudo christcucks who think everything comes from their god- liberalism

>>521156074
>Because those are your supposed principles and only remain as such when you follow them not only when it suits you to do so
you said it
they are MY principles, not yours.

No

>>521156069
If thats the case. Ill be sure to pay my taxes thos year.

>be nazis
>execute a bunch of kids for distributing leaflets
>cry that the chief Nazi antisemite responsible for dehumanizing Jews was executed
lol

>>521156079
you do realise you're evil, right? you are an evil person following an evil ideology that has done evil things.

>>521156082
if those kids were distributing leaflets spreading liberal propaganda then they deserved to die because liberalism is the most evil ideology of all time and if you carry water for it you're evil

>>521156079
That's right my principles are making sure people who share my ideology obtain and maintain power so they can kill people like you

>>521156085
why not just say that from the start instead of all the bullshit liberal mimicry you nazoids engage in bad faith every time you get called a nazi
honest question

>>521156085
>>521156086
you're both dumb and have zero moral principles

>>521156086
What are you talking about? When did I ever say otherwise? My entire point was the hypocrisy of the Allies and how people like you abandon your so called principles when they no longer suit you the fact is you are the same as me the only thing you truly value is power the difference is I am open about it while you wear liberalism as a mask

Shit movie as predicted.

>>521156085
So liberalism is fascism with a smile? Interesting.

>>521156087
Moral principles are for losers mate they aren't going help you win a war or feed your starving family the only that matters is power

>>521156091
>moral principles? you can't eat that!
you've just proven my point. this is exactly why you nazoids lost and will continue to lose-you have no moral authority and connection to tradition, just like liberals.

>>521156088
again, liberal principles are for liberals.
not for you
for you, it's camps and stuff, that's your ideology.
also
>you are the same as me
the evil bad liberals do treat us the same even though you are a nazi. but we are definitely not the same even if you like it to be true.
im better than you. you have the 'politics' of the chimp in the jungle lol might makes right

>>521156093
>liberal principles are for liberals.
liberal principles are when they kill you and starve you but it's ok because according to liberalism those aren't technically crimes or are the fault of a single individual! how wonderful these principles are!

>>521156093
Principles are principles because you adhere to them regardless of the situation you just prove my point that you only follow them when it suits you it's a mask and you will just as eagerly strike me down as I would you

>>521156095
why should liberals treat nazis liberally if nazis want to kill liberals see >>521156085
why should this guy be treated like a liberal

you want the libs to just let you kill them?

honest question

>>521156096
That's the paradox of tolerance it's a corner you have backed yourself into with your ideology

>>521156096
it's like watching a broken clock that is also retarded
>>521156097
that's not what karl popper, a lunatic, meant btw. he was suggesting the ejection of communists and fascists from public debate, not declaring people outside the law and executing them if they didn't speak liberally

>>521156097
>That's the paradox of tolerance it's a corner you have backed yourself into with your ideology
how is it a paradox?
just treat nazis like nazis
and treat liberals like liberals

solved

>>521156099
i agree with this, treat liberals like the dangerous monsters they are and kill them all

>>521156099
liberals don't really exist e.g. the coof

>>521156101
like conservatives don't exist, it's just a private interest lobby

>>521156098
>not declaring people outside the law and executing them if they didn't speak liberally
I never said that I said that the paradox of tolerance was to allow people like me to exist and as such have to tolerant an attempt to supplant them and in my specific vision of the world that would lead to their deaths the reality is though this principle doesn't exist and the pretense is dropped when their power is threatened because that is the only thing that matters at the end of the day obtaining and maintaining power

>nazis allegedly hate liberals but want to hang out with them and get super hurt if a liberal friend cuts ties with them over politics
this thread reminds of that all too common occurrence
the nazis just COVET liberals, it's so pathetic
every single good honest supposedly exclusively white virtue they fetishize is literally just liberal values

just be a liberal wtf

>>521156103
tolerate an attempt*

>>521156103
right, but that's not what the paradox of tolerance, the concept created by karl popper, means. it's actually the complete opposite-the tolerant must be intolerant rather than the intolerant must be tolerated. not saying he was right or a sane person, but that's what he meant.
>>521156104
what the fuck are you on about idiot

>>521155935
Compare the numbers of the civilian deaths.

>>521156104
this
the handwringing and pearl clutching to defend a murderous violent regime lmao and they think anyone will fall for it

>>521156108
they're comparable and the point is that one fucking side got away with no punishment.

>>521156104
>every single good honest supposedly exclusively white virtue they fetishize is literally just liberal values
Didn't know racialism was a liberal virtue.

>>521156110
everyone can tell the difference between bombing cities (which both sides did) to rounding up civilians and murdering them (which one side did)

>>521156109
>the handwringing and pearl clutching to defend a murderous violent regime lmao
yeah i hate liberal democracies too
>>521156153
every retarded liberal can tell the difference, a dead civvie is a dead civvie. i'm talking more about starvation

Which shithole blue board did this get moved from?

>>521156229
>every retarded liberal can tell the difference, a dead civvie is a dead civvie. i'm talking more about starvation

>dead person is dead person bruh what are laws and norms and shit bruh!
you're black

>>521157153
if you want to argue that bombing a civillian or starving one to death isn't even comparable to executing a potential insurgent then by all means go ahead. just don't expect to convince anyone sane

>>521157466
We didnt charge the Germans with arresting or even executing partisans or insurgents. We charged them with enslaving and murdering entire families of innocent people.

>>521156153
both sides rounded up civilians, only one was cut off from international trade.

>>521155891 (OP)
didnt russell crowe say recently that goring was a great guy lol?

>>521157643
>enslaving
like the russians did? why weren't they charged?
>murdering entire families of innocent people
ignoring your weasel word of "murder", the british KILLED entire families of innocents at dresden and during the bengal famine and were never charged. i guess your answer is they weren't MURDERED due to some technical legal point that let them off the hook, which is great consolation to the victims of british imperialism

>>521157822
Are you familiar with the legal system? Even in a normal civilian court we are able to distinguish between two people dying depending on how they died, motives, actions, state of mind, etc.

>>521155891 (OP)
The real question here is:
>Will the movie show the cock & ball torture used to extract 'confessions'?

>>521155891 (OP)
to annoy me i think

>>521157882
ok, thicko. my point was why is fucking rounding a family up and then killing them so much worse than bombing them or starving them? is rounding someone up a capital offense? is it shooting them? is it gassing them? let's hear it.

this is completely pointless because you don't understand the difference between legality and morality, i'm going to preempt this

>>521158089
Morality is the crux of the question here, and most people understand that it's different when families die in a city being bombed vs living peacefully at their house when for no reason they are ordered to get in a train and be shipped hundreds of miles away to be murdered, or boarded into a ghetto and flame throwered to death. Morality is why a court distinguishes between first and second degree murder, obviously.

We didn't charge Germany for bombing London, even though innocent people just minding their own business were killed.

>>521155913
>being a grammar nazi in a world of mobile phones on an island of shit in a sea of infinite piss
lol. faggot.

anyways, if the movie doesnt talk about forced testimony by way of genital mutilation, then you know its kiked. protip, its kiked.

>>521158335
>>521157926
Did you guys know that was a different trial and not Nuremburg? And that all the Nazis could freely testify at the stand and just mention it if their balls were crushed? also they had medical exams and autopsies that would show ball crushing....

>>521158240
>most people understand that it's different when families die in a city being bombed vs living peacefully at their house when for no reason they are ordered to get in a train and be shipped hundreds of miles away to be murdered
it isn't different, but this does explain israel and gaza 100%. fine, you're a credulous moral imbecille who is simply saying "ACCORDING TO LIBERAL LAWS ONE IS MURDER AND THE OTHER IS KILLING", which i get, i'm just saying it's stupid and a morally insane position
>Morality is why a court distinguishes between first and second degree murder, obviously.
...no, that's legality. that's legal responsibility based on liberal principles, not morality. you don't understand the difference between legal responsibility and morality.

>>521158487
Gaza isn't landlocked within Israel, we didn't charge Germany for anything like Gaza because it is a completely different situation in every way.

>>521158544
my point was i can understand why israel can bomb gaza with impunity given your apologism for dresden

>>521158617
What is the relevance of bombing in Gaza? We never charged Germany for bombing cities and we watched Russia bombing Aleppo into smithereens.

>>521158433
>the Nazis could freely testify at the stand and just mention it if their balls were crushed

They had families. You know as well as anyone that relatives are a powerful tool for blackmail.

>>521155891 (OP)
first movie was in '59
second movie was in '61
they made another one '00
so it's time for a new holohoax movie for a new generation. I'm guessing this one will have eyewitness testimony that nazis decapitated 40 infants and that Hitler himself burned a jew alive at the stake

>>521158780
It was already turned into smiterhreen by Israel backed ISIS, but you know this Moishe

>>521158780
...you're autistic and i expect many things confuse you

>>521158796
so.... out of the dozens and dozens of people charged, sending letters, doing interviews, testifying infront of cameras and audiences, none of them ever mentioned they were being tortured?

>>521158998
fellas, did the torture that the british admitted to carrying out actually happen given that the germans who were being held by their torturers didn't speak out about their torture?

>>521155968
>How is this relevant?
Brother.... we are taught that the Holocaust is literally the primary reason that our countries went to war with Germany. Even the invasion of Poland is wrapped up into it because of the amount of concentration camps in Polish territory. So any military operation, all build up, is portrayed as serving their goal of genocide.

>>521159095
>... we are taught that the Holocaust is literally the primary reason that our countries went to war with Germany.

No we aren't. Read a textbook

No place on earth there could've been a fair trial for whoever lost the war.

>>521158998
I just pointed out the flaw in your argument. As for torture never being mentioned, idk. I won’t claim to have read every letter or diary and I already told you the argument “why didn’t they they tell the court/public” while they where all potentially subject to blackmail will not become better by repeating it.

>>521156153
Both sides rounded up civilians,and the side that won the war was the one intentionally killing them.

It’s all fake and gay. They wouldn’t let Germany have an aircraft carrier because they were constantly nerfing them to make the theater of war more fair for Germany’s adversaries. It’s all engineered by shadow rulers for entertainment and population control.

>>521159125
You mean the textbooks the teachers dont use except to show images of the holocaust? lmaooo
Ask anyone on the street who went through an American education. MAYBE British are slightly more informed

I keep seeing hohols and hohol enthusiast on twitter quote that "soviet prosecutor said everyone in country is responsible", and not one of them realizes it that it's a fake quote and no such thing was said at nuremberg trials.

>>521155978
Dresden, Hiroshima, Tokyo, Nagasaki.

And after all the US did in the name of WWII is was basically a win for the communists, that we are paying for even today.

Lel
>Why
>>521155891 (OP)
Homosexual shitskin janies sent you to /pol/, isn't it? where barely 1000? 2000? hard core humans keep globalist judaism at bay. For free. Against multi-million operations and bots and shit.

>>521158240
How is dying during a firebombing/to a nuke more humane than being shot?

>>521159729
because you germcucks deserved to suffer for being war mongers TWICE

>>521160031
Great argument. Good refutation of my point. Now, again, tell me where the difference between a dying during a firebombing/nuking and being shot in a camp is different in terms of being humane (or worthy of prosecution)?

>>521155891 (OP)
Gotta keep the grift alive.

The allied leaders wanted to just hang them (Churchill, FDR, etc) but Stalin convinced them a show trial would be better.

>>521160431
and you conveniently enjoy all the massacres and war mongering germany has done. you should kill yourself like hitler did and join your führer in hell

>”hitler wasn’t a good solider” said in the movie
>ww1 veteran

Like define a good solider

>>521155894
He did it all for the science

>>521155891 (OP)
Because every 2-3 years the Jews must remind the world that white men are evil incarnate. This will distract from the war crimes of Israel.

>>521156282
/tv/ lol
>we have to kill you we can't tolerate your... intolerance it's intolerable! You might kill someone so we have to kill you first!
For about 50 pages.

>>521160789
You’re not answering my question. You’re just attacking me a inferring things out of thin air.

Now answer my question: where the difference between a dying during a firebombing/nuking and being shot in a camp is different in terms of being humane (or worthy of prosecution)?

>>521160991
Could you imagine a jewish person under bibis leadership being put on trial?

It's just your annual Nazi's evil, Jews eternal victims, nebar foretti

>>521155891 (OP)
Yes

When you do it’s bad but when we do it
>in 2025
It’s good!

Stalin killed his own people too and hated kikes too but he was never put on trial. Later he mysteriously had a heart attack. I wonder why that is. Same with JFK too after pointing out Israel shouldn’t make nukes in secret

>>521155891 (OP)
will they explain why the Germans' testicles were shattered?

>>521155891 (OP)
>Was Nuremberg a sham trial?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6as_PprWngQ

>>521155891 (OP)
Nuremberg trials were a farce.
>cant retoactively judge someone with new laws
This is basic in any judicial system but was ignored in Nuremberg because the "trials" were an excuse to eliminate the remains of Germany government.
And let not talk about the abuse and torture german prisioners suffered to extract "testimonies" about the Holohoax.

>>521161345
They weren't though and there's no evidence that they were. You're thinking of a different trial
>>521155919

why did the british literally crush the germans balls?
and why do british love pedophelia?

>>521161465
Germans signed multiple treaties saying they wouldn't invade more countries.... I wonder if they realized it would come back to bite them.

>>521155891 (OP)
I liked the part where they hung the nazis and they cried and pissed themselves. To bad they didn't have the chance to do that to Hitler, Himmler and Goring.

>>521161659
That's irrelevant to his point. The trials created new legal precedent by formally defining and prosecuting "crimes against humanity", which were not previously covered by international law for crimes against a state's own citizens.

>blah blah blah words and shit
Was the movie good? Yes or no?

>>521161902
The central main charge was aggressive war. The germans happened to sign multiple treaties promising not to do aggressive war. The crimes against humanity was not overly centered on the holocaust, crimes against humanity included aggressive war, forced labor, etc.

>>521155891 (OP)
You know why. We need constant reinforcement of that lie because the West is occupied.

>>521161659
They wern't judged for that tho, they were judged for crimes against humanity.
That wasn't a thing before the trials.

>>521162085
>>521161989

>>521162075
That nigga Stew is one of my fav rappers no cap FR FR
https://www.bitchute.com/video/HX8WUhRrLdQF

>>521161989
>The crimes against humanity
Were these post ex-facto or not? It's a simple yes or no.

>>521162075
I can not watch this movie in Germany. God, I love democracy.

>>521162113
Again, nthing of that was a crime in international law before the trials.
The allies literally wrote new laws to elimiate german authorities and rape Germoney after the war.
This is a known and accepted fact today, rabbi.

>>521161763
WORTH! (Famous last words)

>>521162455
Maybe you can you watch his rap video and get a QRD?
>>521162415
That really is Stew Peters 4gdrdbtw.

>>521155891 (OP)
Yes

>>521155891 (OP)

Two words, Roland Freisler

>>521156089
>forms an alliance with the USSR for two years
>murders millions of (mostly) white people
>irrecoverably destabilizes European colonial holdings in Africa and Asia
>has a literal faggot as head of the stormtroopers

The mass death that occurred in Germany from 1944-45 happened because the US bombed every single trainline in a country that used trains to get supplies around the country. No shit people starved at Auschwitz; no supplies could reach them thanks to the US.

The image is bigger than 4chan lets me upload but here's a picture of a US bomber dropping bombs on Auschwitz.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Auschwitz_bombing.jpg

>>521163815
That's crazy that only the random families that Germany kidnapped are the ones that died and starved, and not all the German civillians....

>>521163860
It's crazy that Germany would bother grabbing Jews hiding in French farmhouses and drag them all the way to Poland (all the "death camps" were in eastern Europe despite there being smilitarly equipped encampments in the west) before killing them in a ridiculous way, rather than just shooting them as they find them.

>>521164078
Why did they do it then?

>>521164121
They didn't. There's no evidence they did and the narrative is utterly ridiculous and stands in stark disagreement with physical reality.