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Anonymous No.18542661 >>18542665 >>18542673 >>18542681 >>18542687 >>18542730 >>18542777 >>18542828 >>18542865 >>18542895 >>18542934 >>18542982 >>18543004 >>18543084 >>18543106 >>18543221 >>18543268 >>18543403 >>18543415 >>18543573 >>18543889 >>18543964 >>18546801 >>18546810 >>18547080 >>18547448 >>18547597
ITT: Unpopular /pw/ opinions
I like Will Ospreay
Anonymous No.18542665 >>18543087
>>18542661 (OP)
i think wwe has been pretty good since wrestlemania and i think even the worst hhh booking is better than 99% of vince booking
Anonymous No.18542673
>>18542661 (OP)
hey dave
Anonymous No.18542675
The last time I enjoyed weekly TV was 205 Live.
Anonymous No.18542677 >>18543610 >>18543621 >>18547600
Tony Khan has never won KWABOTY
Anonymous No.18542679 >>18542693 >>18542725 >>18542925 >>18542937 >>18543043
Asian girls are even bigger whores than white ones and the joshincel purity delusion comes from never visiting Japan.
Anonymous No.18542681
>>18542661 (OP)
I think flippy shit is a lot more enjoyable than the slow style wwe usually applies in their matches
Anonymous No.18542682
cm punks current wwe run has been good
Anonymous No.18542683
I like Buddy.
Anonymous No.18542687 >>18542827
>>18542661 (OP)
That's not unpopular, we all do except one guy who constantly samefags to make it seem like we hate Will
Anonymous No.18542690
Same here
Anonymous No.18542693 >>18542715
>>18542679
Completely untrue
Anonymous No.18542715 >>18542726
>>18542693
Leave your bedroom some time lil bro.
Anonymous No.18542725 >>18542735
>>18542679
>joshincel purity delusion
Yeah, the guys who post slutty pictures of these women all day long think they're perfect pure angels retard
Anonymous No.18542726 >>18542767 >>18543330
>>18542715
Sorry about your Jew-rotted country, stop extrapolating it to normal nations, thanks!
Anonymous No.18542730 >>18542739 >>18543053
>>18542661 (OP)
Multi man/team spot fests like TLC etc. are incredibly boring.
Anonymous No.18542735 >>18542745
>>18542725
>photography is pornography/slutty
>showing skin is pornography/slutty
If you say so
Anonymous No.18542739 >>18543037
>>18542730
i think they are played out. what else can you even do with them at this point? its just sawdusting yourself for a match no one will remember. like who remembers this years mens mitb? no one
Anonymous No.18542745
>>18542735
>not saying things is saying them
If you say so
Anonymous No.18542749
3v3/4v4 matches are always boring unless heavily gimmicked
Anonymous No.18542767
>>18542726
Leave the bedroom lil fella. The country that invented NTR is so heckin pure! Just like my animus! In reality Jap girls get their backs blown out in middle school and will fuck any foreigner on the first date. Well, maybe not guys like you, you'd probably start crying
Anonymous No.18542770 >>18543143 >>18543168
If AEW focused more on Osprey, fletcher, take a shit, Omega, Bowens, Caster, Lashley, Shelton, King, Matthews, Darby, white, juice with the beard back and NO ONE else they’d be doing great. Everyone else doesn’t need to be on tv beyond a 3 minute squash.
Anonymous No.18542777
>>18542661 (OP)
i think trannies are gross
Anonymous No.18542783 >>18542789
Sabu and Raven did their best work in TNA.
We have reached the point of no return. There is no infrastructure or even incentive for wrestlers to get and be good at wrestling. No one cares for an audience interaction beyond getting pops for their moves and most of them don’t have sense to not do shit they’re gonna botch.
Anonymous No.18542789
>>18542783
unironically the current crop of women understand wrestling better than the men
Anonymous No.18542794 >>18542817
Can’t support a white male wrestler that doesn’t have a black wife. A white wife and especially an Asian wife makes you look like a pussy.
Anonymous No.18542798 >>18542809 >>18542815 >>18543078
LU was the best wrestling federation/product/show that was produced in the last 25 years+
Anonymous No.18542801 >>18547129
Undertaker is my favorite wrestler
Anonymous No.18542809 >>18542825
>>18542798
for me it was LU > NXT 2.0 > i have nothing right now
Anonymous No.18542815 >>18542823 >>18542832 >>18543102
>>18542798
LU was fake and gay. It was a TV show not a wrestling promotion. Might as well say power rangers is your favorite wrestling promotion
Anonymous No.18542817
>>18542794
Having a wife in general makes a wrestler look like a pussy, any wrestler worth his salt should be swimming in ring rats not sitting down at the dinner table figuring out the mortgage
Anonymous No.18542823 >>18543109
>>18542815
All pro-wrestling is fake and gay.
Just ask anyone who doesn't watch it.
Anonymous No.18542825
>>18542809
I personally blame people like jewtzer for spoiling LU which made a lot of people not even tune in since they want to see things live.
I don't mind the fed not being live and just cut to look good, barely have any botches because of that and you can easily work on better camera angles.
That, and you can actually do heavy kayfabe shit. It's the last place I recall having actual angles of wrestlers being killed/sacrificed and then completely repackaged or gone.
Anonymous No.18542827 >>18542833
>>18542687
Most of us have never even seen him never mind like him
Anonymous No.18542828 >>18542975
>>18542661 (OP)
i'm not into black men's penises
Anonymous No.18542832 >>18543109
>>18542815
>LU was fake and gay.
As opposed to other wrestling, right?
>It was a TV show not a wrestling promotion.
And that's a problem because?
It's enjoyable to watch it, man. I don't care if it's live or taped 20 years ago and heavily edited. If it's good, it's good.
Anonymous No.18542833 >>18542854
>>18542827
>t. samefag Will hater
Anonymous No.18542854 >>18542856 >>18542857
>>18542833
i personally don't enjoy will because he feels very mechanical like he's always moving from spot to spot or following a script in his head. i don't mind spotfest wrestlers if it feels organic from spot to spot. i really like kevin owens and takeshita for this reason
Anonymous No.18542856 >>18542903
>>18542854
I will fuck you in the ass
Anonymous No.18542857
>>18542854
Eh, I'm just playing, I've never really been a fan either. I watched him in New Japan but was happy after he was gone.
I agree with you on all counts.
Anonymous No.18542865 >>18542871 >>18542877
>>18542661 (OP)
Unsafe powerhouse shitters are more enjoyable to watch than safe workers.
Anonymous No.18542871 >>18543375
>>18542865
ahmed johnson squashes from 1996 are some of the most entertaining matches in history
Anonymous No.18542877
>>18542865
I love watching random 90s ECW. They really just get injuried for my entertainment. And I'm entertained because I see something original every time, even if it makes someone break their neck.
Anonymous No.18542895 >>18542915 >>18542920 >>18542931 >>18543069 >>18543222 >>18543350 >>18543412
>>18542661 (OP)
Wrestling as a medium is completely dead and can never be recovered, and the main culprit of that is the fans themselves.
Modern day fans absolutely refuse to be invested in the program, because that means they could possibly get worked, and since the entire foundation of wrestling is working people, the product becomes what it is now.
Fans are mind melted by the possibility that they could be seen as marks or that someone could say "don't you realize that's all fake?" so everything in wrestling is just layer upon layer of wink wink irony.
Heels have no heat, and can never get any because everyone just says "Oh wow, he's playing that character great."
People don't care if their favorite wrestler wins or loses, they care if their favorite wrestler is booked to win or lose. Instead of being excited that a beloved wrestler won a title, they chant "You deserve it!" because what they're actually applauding is that the booker wanted to give them a fake title that means nothing to any of them, like a 65 year old at his retirement banquet being given a watch for dedication to the company.
These same people will proudly fight over politicians who don't care about them, will debate for two days how Iron Man could totally beat Superman in the latest marvel slop, and write out a thesis for why Joel and Ellie are one of the best stories in the history of media, but God forbid you get invested in and worked by a wrestling storyline. That shit is all fake, and you're too smart for it.
Anonymous No.18542903 >>18542906
>>18542856
Calm down Will
Anonymous No.18542906
>>18542903
I will
Anonymous No.18542915 >>18543436
>>18542895
Pretty much spot on.
Pro-wrestling fans are one-step removed from non-fans. The difference is that they grant a little suspension of disbelief to the wrestling they like, but not quite enough to enjoy it fully.
I pointed it out in another thread, but people don't really root for wrestlers. They root for their own booking. And when their booking doesn't go over, they get mad.
Anonymous No.18542920 >>18543124
>>18542895
>Heels have no heat, and can never get any because everyone just says "Oh wow, he's playing that character great."
If they do something actually heelish, there's public crying about "going too far". Can't have a really edgy angle to get heat.
Which makes me mad. We all know it's fake and a live tv show, just let people do edgy shit for ACTUAL heat.
Anonymous No.18542925 >>18542986
>>18542679
worked. Sad to see!
Anonymous No.18542931
>>18542895
>Modern day fans absolutely refuse to be invested in the program, because that means they could possibly get worked, and since the entire foundation of wrestling is working people, the product becomes what it is now.

I would agree with this, but most industries (TV, Movies, products) have a similar problem where users want to feel like they aren't getting tricked or want to feel they're "too smart to be marketed to."
Anonymous No.18542934
>>18542661 (OP)
I don’t think Bayley is ugly. She’s like a 6/10
Anonymous No.18542937 >>18542951 >>18543002 >>18544805
>>18542679
You’re over correcting. They’re objectively more pure than western women but not by much. Joshi wrestling attracts the mentally ill and lesbians so many of them are factually virgins
Anonymous No.18542951 >>18542992
>>18542937
only the fans are virgins there
Anonymous No.18542975
>>18542828
Don't lie Kev
Anonymous No.18542982
>>18542661 (OP)
I like him in NJPW when he was in midcard scene aka where he belongs.
Anonymous No.18542986
>>18542925
Seething and coping hard. Fun to see!
Anonymous No.18542991 >>18542998
I hate Yota Tsuji.
I can't stand his annoying smile and shitty spear. He is worse than Shota IMO
Anonymous No.18542992 >>18543006
>>18542951
Yeah, no one's saying they're virgins.
It's almost as though there's a spectrum to sexual activity.
You seem like someone who knows all about being on a spectrum so that shouldn't be too hard to wrap your head around.
Anonymous No.18542998
>>18542991
Anonymous No.18543002 >>18543025
>>18542937
>They’re objectively more pure than western women
Go walk around Japan with a 5/10+ over 6 foot tall white guy. You won't even have to try.
Anonymous No.18543004
>>18542661 (OP)
I miss vince
Anonymous No.18543006 >>18543018
>>18542992
>my waifu is pure and never had sex!!!
>92
kwab
Anonymous No.18543018
>>18543006
I guess that almost makes sense if you take what I said and claim I said the exact opposite, retard.
Anonymous No.18543025 >>18543048
>>18543002
>whitoid cope
lol
Anonymous No.18543037
>>18542739
I do.
Anonymous No.18543042
Big show is good
Anonymous No.18543043 >>18543058 >>18543058
>>18542679
GMS!!!
Anonymous No.18543047
>iyotranny finds another thread to shit up
goddamnit
Anonymous No.18543048
>>18543025
I'm sorry you're brown, maybe God will be kinder in the next life Rajeet.
Anonymous No.18543049
without triple h there wouldnt be wwe after vince scandal
Anonymous No.18543053
>>18542730
Used to be good but they’ve done literally everything they can do in them. How many tower of doom spots can I fucking see?
Anonymous No.18543058 >>18543096
>>18543043
>>18543043
>bitchtits starts seething like a spastic yet again
You're fat.
Anonymous No.18543069
>>18542895
Anonymous No.18543078 >>18543101
>>18542798
Season 1 of LU was the most fun I’ve ever had on a wrestling imageboard (woo), everyone actually fucking liked the show and talking about the show.
It also had the best casket match of all time (and second best casket match of all time).
Anonymous No.18543084
>>18542661 (OP)
There are no megastars anymore. Cena was the last one and he barely qualified. I thought this was intuitive and easy to stomach but peedubs finna get worked
Anonymous No.18543087 >>18543099
>>18542665
Same. I sincerely think the people who want Vince back didnt watch his last few years or are disingenous falseflagging trannies. He put the belt on Big E for christ sakes.
Anonymous No.18543096
>>18543058
turn your monitor on
Anonymous No.18543099
>>18543087
>He put the belt on Big E
Kek Vince's last great rib
Anonymous No.18543101 >>18543233
>>18543078
>fleshed out gimmicks
>no filler matches
>brutal matches and interesting stipulations
>great looking titles
>Dario Cueto
>many wrestlers' best work was there
>original arena that gives you more options than your usual announcers table/barricade spot
Anonymous No.18543102
>>18542815
>"It was a TV show not a wrestling promotion."
>meanwhile, e-drones to their non-wrestling fan friends and family:
>"It's not really a wrestling show! It's a show about wrestling!"
Anonymous No.18543106 >>18543117
>>18542661 (OP)
Logan Paul is the best wrestler of the past decade.
Anonymous No.18543109 >>18543118 >>18543149
>>18542832
>>18542823
Here is some unsolicited advice. If you are ashamed of the wrestling you watch it is because you watch shameful wrestling. Of course as lucha underground fans you carry deep shame and insecurity when interacting with non fans. But as someone who is loud and proud about their love Japanese and territory wrestling at worst I have been met with indifference but usually with admiration that I collect and curate obscure pop culture instead of watching trash movies and tv shows just because they are easily streamed like the get of you.
Anonymous No.18543110 >>18543134
Liking LU is not an unpopular opinion dummies.
Anonymous No.18543117 >>18543131 >>18543134
>>18543106
I love how you type this and then go on to complain about Ospreay being a spot monkey in other threads.
Anonymous No.18543118 >>18543141
>>18543109
I'm not ashamed of liking LU though, not sure what your strawman is here
Anonymous No.18543124
>>18542920
I remember when Michelle McCool and Layla (heels) called Mickie James (face) fat and people were outraged by this. (They still watched the show every single fucking week)
Anonymous No.18543129
>I get admiration from liking obscure japanese feds
Anonymous No.18543131 >>18543159
>>18543117
Logan sells, can cut a heel promo without sounding like an unintelligent wanker, and isn't raising a black stepson
Anonymous No.18543132
Female wrestlers with tattoos are 1000 percent more dimes than ones without them
Anonymous No.18543134 >>18543144
>>18543110
It had low as fuck ratings so in a way…>>18543117
Anonymous No.18543141 >>18543145
>>18543118
You are and it’s good that you are because it is shameful to enjoy that trash.
Anonymous No.18543143
>>18542770
>bowens
Anonymous No.18543144
>>18543134
I don’t know why I tagged the Ospreay guy at the end of the post. My bad. What the fuck
Anonymous No.18543145 >>18543155
>>18543141
Stop projecting you fatass, go watch your obscure joshi feds that have 10 fat retards in attendance and act like people care that you do
Anonymous No.18543149 >>18543173
>>18543109
Actually, I've never watched a single show of LU and pretty much only watch Japanese wrestling.
All wrestling is garbage now compared to the past. Including Japanese wrestling. I overlook the shortcomings because, despite its shortcomings as wrestling, it often entertains me in other ways.
But the wrestling itself usually isn't great. Better than WWE and AEW, to be sure, but it would never be "it" for wrestling purists.
Thankfully, I'm not one.
Anonymous No.18543150
I was a fan of Maven during his original run fr
Anonymous No.18543155 >>18543161
>>18543145
You’ve been triggered by truth. This is your first step to recovery
Anonymous No.18543156
>LU is bad because it's fake and gay!
Anonymous No.18543159
>>18543131
>talking makes you a good wrestler
Straight talk, bro - if you like people talking and don't care about in-ring shit, why not just watch practically any other TV program where that's the main draw.
Even the story lines are better.
Anonymous No.18543161
>>18543155
Nah that's you
Anonymous No.18543168 >>18543177 >>18543178
>>18542770
As I’ve posted many times, they’ve got a really good midcard. That’s the one thing I think they’ve got over WWE
Anonymous No.18543173 >>18543185 >>18543186
>>18543149
Let's not pretend wrestling is some high art form.
It's really stupid entertainment. And I want to be stupidly entertained. Just because some people act like it's some sacred sport doesn't mean it actually is one.
Anonymous No.18543177 >>18543195
>>18543168
out of this list, PAC is constantly gone/injuried, while Hobbs, Juice, White, Cage and Buddy are very injury prone.
Anonymous No.18543178
>>18543168
It’s a shame Tony has already set the precedent that no one is going to have work a full time schedule and therefore no one is ever regularly featured.
Anonymous No.18543185 >>18543208
>>18543173
That's exactly what I mean, actually. I just expressed myself poorly.
I mean, I was serious when I said wrestling is crap. But some of us look past that and enjoy it for its other aspects.
It's entertainment. That's it. Some of us put aside our disbelief to enjoy it while others nitpick and find they don't enjoy it.
Workrate is pointless if it's not entertaining. And shit, I enjoy a lot of stuff where the workrate is crap - for reference, I like most of what Megaton does.
Anonymous No.18543186 >>18543217
>>18543173
You think this way because you were raised on wwe and the only alternatives you know are LU and AEW. You have never seen good wrestling.
Anonymous No.18543195
>>18543177
I’m just saying as a whole I generally think aew has something with those guys.
Anonymous No.18543208 >>18543219 >>18543229
>>18543185
I know what you meant anon, I was actually agreeing with you in my post.
>Some of us put aside our disbelief to enjoy it while others nitpick and find they don't enjoy it.
Exactly.
>Workrate is pointless if it's not entertaining.
It's why I can't get into ZSJ, his moves look way too cooperative and he's a skinny fag so I can't suspend my disbelief enough.
I like silly/funny shit, especially fleshed out gimmicks. The more I see of those "generic dudes in tights who love technical wrestling" I can't skip this shit quickly enough.
Anonymous No.18543217 >>18543249
>>18543186
Show us good wrestling then
Anonymous No.18543219 >>18543261
>>18543208
>I know what you meant anon, I was actually agreeing with you in my post.
I figured, but I was kind of all over the place.
You encapsulated my entire philosophy of pro-wrestling there, really.
Anonymous No.18543221
>>18542661 (OP)
Tony isn't a contender for KWABOTY this year
Anonymous No.18543222
>>18542895
Dimes
Anonymous No.18543229 >>18543261
>>18543208
Also, my favorite part of New Japan was Yano. I agree about ZSJ.
Now the whole company leans into workrate. I gave up on the G1 pretty early and cancelled my subscription.
It's why joshi works for me. They lean into the other stuff a lot more and make it a show.
Anonymous No.18543233 >>18543282
>>18543101
it was just so good man
Anonymous No.18543236 >>18543334
The worst thing to ever happen to online wrestling discourse was all the fucking WWE marks just conceding that AEW has great matches.
Anonymous No.18543249 >>18543264
>>18543217
You’re just going to shit on it without watching. You need to show me you are humble and open minded first.
Anonymous No.18543261 >>18543283 >>18545626
>>18543219
>>18543229
I rarely watch NJPW but I tuned into the one this year and honestly the amount of pretty much gimmickless guys in tights is surprising. And boring. At least Tanahashi's air guitar still makes me pop.
>I agree about ZSJ.
Good to see I'm not alone then, the amount of ZSJ asslickers seems to be high everywhere for some reason.
I can't bring myself to watch joshi, I want to actually know what the wrestlers are saying most of the time to be immersed and to be able to suspend my disbelief. At least NJPW has english commentary, I like hearing El Phantasmo there.
Anonymous No.18543264 >>18543299
>>18543249
I'm going to shit down your mouth anyway you fat fucking retard
Take a shower, hit the weights, get a ding-dong diddly clue and go back to your obscure japanese feds
Anonymous No.18543268
>>18542661 (OP)
There really is a reason people like them will never be champions.
Anonymous No.18543282
>>18543233
I unironically still rewatch some LU matches from time to time. They're great on their own but way better with the whole storyline as LU was heavy on storylines.
Made me pop hard when All Night Long was announced as I haven't seen an iron match in a while and it was actually really good. Usually for ironman matches you have some bullshit technical wrestling with the likes of Bret Hart, Bryan Danielson or Kurt Angle, but here it was just Mundo vs Puma and it was great.
Anonymous No.18543283 >>18543306
>>18543261
>I can't bring myself to watch joshi, I want to actually know what the wrestlers are saying most of the time to be immersed and to be able to suspend my disbelief. At least NJPW has english commentary, I like hearing El Phantasmo there.
That's fair enough. We used to have subtitles and they made it a lot easier to follow. It's admittedly pretty easy to figure out the gist of what's going on from facial expressions. We're also getting increased English Commentary, which is good.
If you ever decide you want to give it a go, here's three shows. First one has English Commentary. Matches on the lower card obviously aren't always going to be great because they're rookies, but they do fun stuff in lieu of that.

All Star Grand Queendom 2023 (with English commentary):
https://archive.org/details/stardom-all-star-grand-queendom-2023-23-04-23

Dream Queendom 2024
https://archive.org/details/stardom-dream-queendom-2024-29-12-24

All Star Grand Queendom 2025
https://archive.org/details/stardom-all-star-grand-queendom-2025-27-04-25
Anonymous No.18543299 >>18543312
>>18543264
You’re lashing out cause you know I’m right. You are so passionate about a subject you only have surface level knowledge of. You live in a hell of your own making.
Anonymous No.18543306 >>18543311
>>18543283
Thanks anon, don't think I'll give it a try as I'm really repulsed by all the waifufags who inhabit /pw/ and I don't want to be associated with them.
You seem normal though, not like those retarded spammers. Good to see that.
Anonymous No.18543311 >>18543369
>>18543306
It's all good brother - enjoy what you enjoy, that's what it's all about!
Anonymous No.18543312 >>18543320
>>18543299
>still not a single match posted
go on, link your obscure 80s japanese match with 10 views on dailymotion uploaded in silky smooth 360p
Anonymous No.18543320 >>18543338
>>18543312
I will not until you humble yourself before me.
Anonymous No.18543330
>>18542726
>normal
Lmao
Anonymous No.18543334
>>18543236
This never happened though.
Anonymous No.18543337
I don't see a reason to have strong feelings for any company
Anonymous No.18543338 >>18543367
>>18543320
not before you eat my shit, you shiteater
Anonymous No.18543350
>>18542895
TOTAL SMARK DEATH. YOU FAT FAGGOTS DESTROYED OUR BELOVED BUSINESS!!!!
Anonymous No.18543367
>>18543338
You eat shit everyday from the toilet and that toilet is your ideology.
Anonymous No.18543369 >>18543564
>>18543311
Do you still enjoy anything besides joshi wrestling? Just curious. I sometimes enjoy WWE but very rarely, I do like AEW a lot more in that regard but I don't watch it regularly too. NJPW rarely also. Haven't watched TNA in 10 years.
Anonymous No.18543371
being hetero is normal and gay shit should be shunned
Anonymous No.18543375
>>18542871
His unhinged promos were based too, his injuries were his downfall
Anonymous No.18543403
>>18542661 (OP)
Anonymous No.18543412
>>18542895
>Heels have no heat, and can never get any because everyone just says "Oh wow, he's playing that character great."
There are a few like Logan Paul because libtards (much of the modern wrestling audience) hated him personally before he stepped foot in the ring, but that's about it.
Anonymous No.18543415 >>18543448
>>18542661 (OP)
I go to wrestling shows just to key cars. I do it because I know anyone who watches wrestling is too big of a bitch to do anything about it.
Anonymous No.18543418 >>18543427
I would have sent with every single active female wrestler worldwide I think they're all good looking
Anonymous No.18543427 >>18543432
>>18543418
*Have sex
wtf
Anonymous No.18543432
>>18543427
Namaste, nigga.
Anonymous No.18543436
>>18542915
>people don't really root for wrestlers
Wrestlers go out and kill themselves trying to get over only for their supposed "fans" to chant the name of the promotion so you aren't wrong.
Anonymous No.18543448
>>18543415
>Unpopular opinions thread
>posts confession
You're getting a based from me, you little rascal. But by God you're a fucking retard
Anonymous No.18543564 >>18543588 >>18547188
>>18543369
I mean, when other shit was good, yeah, I did.
I'm in my 40s now. Watched WWF back in the 80s. Stopped for a bit then came back to WCW in '98. Watched that until WWF bought it out, was watching WWF at that point as well and continued watching WWE through around 2004, at which point I stopped again.
I came back to pro-wrestling through New Japan in 2019. Enjoyed that year, was excited for 2020. Then covid happened. Watched AEW in the very beginning as well, before they even had Dynamite and watched Dynamite regularly for around a year. Got into AJPW for a bit and later NOAH. I watched WWE off and on.
Stardom I came around to at the very beginning of 2022. I had lost my love for AEW and NJPW by that point. Stardom, on the other hand, usually delivered. The stories are the type that are told more in the ring than through promos but subtitles made it nice. The workers there are great at embracing characters and making you care about them regardless of whether you understand what they're saying, they do shit that's fun, and the top of the card puts on solid match work.
I don't have so much free time anymore so I watch Stardom primarily and that when I can just because I find it an easy watch that will usually make me smile. It's not for everyone, and I can appreciate not wanting to associate with joshifags, but I personally find that the company is doing some of the best stuff in the business right now.
But, again, to each their own - what matters is that people have something they enjoy and they're enjoying it.
Anonymous No.18543573
>>18542661 (OP)
Who
Anonymous No.18543588 >>18543615
>>18543564
>I mean
Anonymous No.18543603
I only care about entrance music and finishers. actual wrestling doesn’t really matter once you stop looking scared of fucking up.
Anonymous No.18543610 >>18547600
>>18542677
This is pure /pw/ canon though
It's been Vince since like 2018
Anonymous No.18543615 >>18543662
>>18543588
Sorry something in my comment just didn't sit right with you bro.
The other poster asked me what I thought about stuff and I answered. Sorry it wasn't worded to your personal liking.
Anonymous No.18543621 >>18545578
>>18542677
He's literally never won a single won, WWE (Phil,Paul,Vince) are in the middle of a dynasty winning them
Anonymous No.18543662 >>18543753
>>18543615
You literally can't even right now.
Anonymous No.18543753
>>18543662
Go be a dimeless little faggot someplace else.
Anonymous No.18543889 >>18543957
>>18542661 (OP)
current WWE is some of the best and most enjoyable it's ever been, only Boomers who are stuck in the past or autistic Smarks hate on it
Anonymous No.18543957
>>18543889
I think the bigger problem is that it's just different than what a lot of us used to watch in the 90s, 80s, and earlier and it just fails to capture those nostalgia feels we wish it did.
Throw in wall-to-wall advertising that didn't exist in earlier times and it can be a hard watch for some of us. I don't say that to knock it because it really is better than it had been in a long time.
Anonymous No.18543964
>>18542661 (OP)
Same
Anonymous No.18544805
I think New Japan is on the way back up.

I think Raw and Smackdown should have different creative teams.

I think Serena Deeb is an excellent wrestler and is one of the few good women wrestlers who isn't just good for a woman wrestler.

I think the people here who are mean to other anons are Redditors who don't get the business and think you have to be a dick to be here.

EVIL and Seth Rollins are metaheels and they're good at it by sucking without driving all the fans away. They are the only good heels in the business today. Once smarks smarten up to metaheelwork they will all agree and kill it off.

Reddit spacing isn't real.

>>18542937
>A bunch of alcoholic lesbians together in a hotel room
>Doesn't think they have sex
Anonymous No.18544837
UWFI was peak wrestling
Anonymous No.18544851
The only people who get cancelled for made up bullshit stay cancelled because they weren't good enough to get over.
Anonymous No.18544868 >>18544901
I don't care for triple threat matches on PPV's especially as main events. Most of the time, one of the guys ends up pretending to be hurt or resting outside the ring out of view of the camera.

I am aware there have been some top notch triple threat matches, but this doesn't change my view.
Anonymous No.18544901 >>18544912 >>18545628
>>18544868
triple threads always seemed to me a context between
>unstoppable force
>immovable object
>jobber
most of the time you may not even know who's gonna win, but you know who will get pinned
Anonymous No.18544912
>>18544901
It's a really transparent old school way to protect two guys. The Ruthless Aggression era had a few good ones thoughever, because Heyman would use it as a way to complicate a feud.
Anonymous No.18544996 >>18545610
It was funny as fuck for quite a while, but the ground where the dead horse of 1992 jokes was pounded into atoms is now a mile-deep crater and it's time to give it a rest.
Anonymous No.18545578 >>18545808
>>18543621
>He's literally never won a single won
Anonymous No.18545610
>>18544996
>atoms
we need to pound it even finer
Anonymous No.18545626
>>18543261
how the fuck do you watch wrestling but arent able to understand a story through facial expressions, body movement, selling, and character work just because its from another country?
Anonymous No.18545628 >>18545778
>>18544901
nxt does the best triple threats right now specifically because they do NOT do this booking. HHH loves the sneaky pin triple threat win and does it all the time
Anonymous No.18545778
>>18545628
Shawn is the best booker working today. This is NOT an unpopular opinion.
Anonymous No.18545808
>>18545578
Sybau
Anonymous No.18546801
>>18542661 (OP)
Unless it's an absolute bomb scare or you can prove the show was comped to hell and back, tarp/empty section posting for stadium show is fucking retarded, especially if you don't know the rent price for the venue.
What's the average NBA or big college basketball arena size? Like 18K that you probably have to cut down like 13K for the stage? You have to sell that show out two nights in a row and then run some shitty ROH show somewhere else to do this year's All In. You have to sell it out four nights in a row to do either night of Summerslam. I get it, 20-25K empty seats is funny to some people who just can't help but console war...but if they're actually doing that kind of business what's the problem?
Now if you a draw a TV crowd for one of those shows and you still run it, you deserve to be smoked to hell and back. Like if AEW ran Grand Slam Australia where it was supposed to be originally, that's a KWABOTY type event. Instead, all I can do is mock them for being overambitious and realizing they needed to move it. To me, whatever the fuck that amateur wrestling thing Hogan and Bischoff were trying to do looks way worse in my eyes than not being able to sell out Metlife.
Anonymous No.18546810
>>18542661 (OP)
the territory days were boring boomer shit
Anonymous No.18547080
>>18542661 (OP)
I dont like Dom
Anonymous No.18547129
>>18542801
>Undertaker is my favorite wrestler
Same.

Undertaker
Kane
Angle
Vince

My rushmore
Anonymous No.18547188
>>18543564
Thanks for your response anon. I appreciate it honestly. Good to know there are still normal, good anons on this board and not only console waring niggers/joshifags spamming their shit everywhere
Anonymous No.18547207 >>18549282
Sable is one of the worst women's wrestlers of all time, had a fridge body, a horrible titjob and couldn't talk or wrestle.
Anonymous No.18547400
drew mcintyre should have got a significant heel belt run. how the fuck do you have a guy with a heel turn and run THAT good and not give him the belt and build up somebody to finally beat him. they had the whole sami underdog thing too where sami lost to him like 11 times in a row
Anonymous No.18547448
>>18542661 (OP)
>1999 was a stale and outright bad creative year for WWF
>AEW is much closer to latter day ECW than latter day WCW, and it's like that on purpose
>Most popular opinions (positive and negative) about pre-1995 wrestling are completely nonsensical if you've actually watched it, it boggles my mind that people prefer to copy their opinions on old shit wholesale from boomer podcasters even though so much shit is free on YouTube now
Anonymous No.18547454
i think austin vs mcmahon was a mistake
he was already over and they were already pushing him to the top without it. he didn't need it.
and it stopped being good after the dude love matches.
it dragged on way too long.
and then it ruined the heel turn because we're too used to them feuding and it looked too fake to see them aligned suddenly just to beat rock in a match, a guy he already beat before.
Anonymous No.18547478
i think after the screwjob, vince should've taken himself off tv for about a year and then come back as a commentator again.
the heat would've died down by then, especially given how bret's wcw run was going
Anonymous No.18547492
I think the 2 greatest women wrestlers of all time are the Fabulous Moolah and Trish Stratus.
but I don't think either of them are good wrestlers.
in fact i'd say both of them were pretty bad wrestlers. just not as bad as every other woman wrestler.
Anonymous No.18547517
I really don't care about fighting over which company is the least bad.
Anonymous No.18547528
rewatching wcw i enjoy watching pre-NWO more than post-NWO mainly because of the awful commentary never shutting the fuck up about the nwo during every match
if i'm watching arn anderson vs lord steven regal i don't want to hear about hogan, piper and the nwo. just call the match
Anonymous No.18547535
also tony schiavone suddenly being a good commentator is historical revisionism and propaganda i'm not falling for
he sucked ass then and now
second worst ever after michael cole
Anonymous No.18547597
>>18542661 (OP)
Vince McMahon carried Steve Austin hard. Austin was pretty one-dimensional meanwhile Vince is the best heel of all time.
Anonymous No.18547600 >>18548348
>>18542677
This isn't unpopular it's just wrong

>>18543610
Tony won via the democratic process I'm R.Fraid.
Anonymous No.18548348
>>18547600
Tony you can pay me to vote for Vince if you want. Or Cody who cares.
Anonymous No.18549282
>>18547207
this is not controversial
Anonymous No.18549301
jack swagger was actually a good choice for world champ in 2010, he was just failed by his booking