>Be me 27 KHV
>Still KHV but confidence is a bit up
>Decide to approach at the grocery store today
>see 6/10 in the fruit section picking avocados
>she's around my age no visible red flags
>heart is going crazy while approaching
>walk up next to her try to establish eye contact
>brain buffers
>"You uh... good at picking ripe ones?"
>She gives a polite little laugh
>success.exe?
>"I think so"
>Try to keep it going
>"Nice... I'm terrible at it. They always go bad the next day"
>She nods and smiles again but walks away slowly
>I'm desperate not to let the convo die
>"Do you shop here often"
>Her smile fades
>"I'm actually just in a rush sorry"
>Nod like a fucking NPC
>Stand there pretending to compare apples so I don't look like I got rejected
>tfw I forgot to buy what I needed
>tfw 362 days left

i don't know why or how are you enduring this, all i know is that i would like to have 1/100 of the balls you do

LOL, you actually try to talk to them?
it just doesn't work man
not even for me
i get them on dates but once i let my guard down
it's an ick!
you literally cannot be yourself lol
i love women, i recognize they are human
but they are just very good at dehumanizing themselves
absolutely brainwashed
they want every interaction to be perfect and robotic
like a movie script
for reference i was a 170lb chadlite
now im like 150lbs cuz i stopped eating
i probably look even better now with virtually no body fat
i still have no success in dating
not trying to generalize women here
but most all of them at my school are fucking retards

>>81681125
>but most all of them at my school are fucking retards
How old are you bro?
>>81681104
I think around the start of this year I just stopped giving a shit about anything and I'm going for it before I turn 30

>>81681149
im 21 now
i haven't been on a date since i was 18
just rotting

Genuinley good on you for having the confidence to attempt this, maybe moving forward try having a little compliment or a talking point lined up to keep the convo flowing longer to make your intentions clear without making it too pushy

>>81681093 (OP)
you should have complimented her and been more direct. Your first line was okay.

When you said
>Nice... I'm terrible at it. They always go bad the next day
Think... what does this signify to the unconscious. It means you're incompetent, and things go wrong in your life quickly.
Of course she doesn't want to date someone like this.

>>81681093 (OP)
I don't have anything meaningful to say, but I want to wish you good luck, anon

>>81681093 (OP)
>"Do you shop here often"
I'm assuming this is a made up story because everyone knows only Chad can get away with saying something so cliche and cringe.

>>81681226
>Think... what does this signify to the unconscious. It means you're incompetent, and things go wrong in your life quickly.
I really doubt it's that deep anon
>>81681195
I will try that

>>81681293
>I really doubt it's that deep anon
Then why did she immediately walk away from you? If you don't understand the unconscious, and don't recognize that women are deeply in-tune with the unconscious, and if you aren't aware that verbal communication is only the tip of the ice-berg compared to unconscious communication, you will continue to fail.

You literally walked up to a stranger and said "I'm terrible". That isn't attractive at all, it is the opposite of attractive.

>>81681357
I'm 100% sure she would have continued talking to me if I was less fat and a bit taller. I will try out different methods and strategies though.

>>81681379
Could you please post a physique pic, i wont bully you promise

>>81681390
this ain't a fucking game bro
i wanna see a titty

>>81681390
This is exactly what I look like right now

>>81681413
Atleast you have some meaty arms, you look decently strong which girls like. Should probably trim down a bit though

>>81681093 (OP)
be more forward
i hit on a girl at the grocery store and i legit went "hey i thought you were pretty and wanted to know if i can have your number" and she gave me the number
she didn't seem very interested so it went nowhere but it worked somewhat for me

>>81681437
I'm like 30% bf or something, I'm dieting down to 15%.

>>81681446
If you're natty and actually reach 15% you are gonna feel really small, but as long as you're not crash dieting it everything will work out. What do you wear when approaching?

>>81681413
Thats literally an objectively attractive body, literally my type.

Just work on conversation flowing more and youll be fine

>>81681494
sorry to get in the middle but are there people that find this kind of body attractive? i am actually surprised

>>81681476
>If you're natty and actually reach 15% you are gonna feel really small
Yeah, I know I'll lose some of my gains but I think my face would just look a lot better which seems to be the main thing.
>What do you wear when approaching
Just office casual type clothes, nothing fancy.

>>81681509
Yes, loads, Im one of them.

Not in a weird fetish way, but genuinley in a I find that hot way

>>81681357
If women in any number were in tune with anything resembling human emotions we wouldnt be in the position where hitting on a chick in a grocery store looked like some amazing feat of bravery, our society wouldnt be as fucked as it is. She fucking scurried away from a guy making polite conversation like he was going to rip her pants off right in the aisle and rape her.

>>81681093 (OP)
I gave up a few years ago, its too much of a hassle to keep a relationship or just go thru hoops to fuck for non chads, not worth the mental damage and exhaustion, i dont enjoy vidya anymore but sometimes im kinda happy i dont have to go outside every single day or to be a fucking clown or to be agressive everyday just to keep a modern bitch interested, fuck that i like my plants and sometimes i like my warframe

>>81681521
Not entirely sure approaching in office casual is american custom since im not american, always got the impression it was more "streetwear"

>>81681524
This is OP did you always think this type of body was good or did your preference change as you got older?

>>81681602
Yeah I wear streetwear sometimes too
>>81681524
Did your preference for bodies change as you got older or was this type of body always good for you?

She was happy she is attractive enough to be approcheched. And no matter what you said you had no chance. If you had a chance she would have kept it going herself. Usually you win or lose before you even say the first word.

>>81681634
For me its always kind of been the same, but just generally as I got older I preferred bodies that are the same age as mine

So yeah its always generally been that type give or take

3 yous mate, keep em guessing

>>81681652
>If you had a chance she would have kept it going herself
This so fucking much this. If a girl want SHE will make you see it and you can not fuck up. There is no "gaming" it is all decided the moment she sees you for the first time. I had this once and man it felt so fucking good. I could say anything I want and she would jump on it keeping the convo going. Women who make it hard are not worth it.

>>81681652
>And no matter what you said you had no chance. If you had a chance she would have kept it going herself.
Yeah, this was my experience. If a girl is into you, everything is just super easy.

>>81681093 (OP)
I just don't have anything in common with normal women, so this would never work for me.

>>81681634
So, are you just asking girls in random spots, if so respect

>>81681787
I'm trying to go for a different spot every time until I find a spot that is better. I haven't talked to women outside of an educational or work related purpose for like 7 years so I am getting some practice in too I guess idk.

>>81681824
I respect it, you're braver than me

>>81681839
Just go for it while you're still relatively young man. Pretty much nothing to lose I mean.

>>81681093 (OP)
Unironically read Models

>>81681524
thank you, i didnt know i needed this but you made my day better
i am very hairy though

>>81681893
Thats good, you should be confident, I can assure you if its any boost for the situation if someone like that approached me in public I wouldnt turn them down and at least get to know them.

In terms of hairy, I, and many others, dont care

>>81681878
None of that PUA stuff works for me but I'll give it a read if I find the pdf

>>81681922
heh that is probably my problem, i struggle approaching anyone, even when i go outside to buy groceries, so approaching a girl sounds hard as hell

>>81681875
I tell myself that i have to gain some weight (to 70kg from 65, im 178cm) but thats probably just procrastinating

>>81681929
I would imagine it is awkward, but maybe you could try in more targetted shops? Like a food shop is where people are going because they need to be there, so chances are theyre mid chore and not as likely to want a lot of socialisation.

Whereas I go to book shops a lot (waterstones if youre UK) and Id be more happy if someone approached me there because theres somewhat of a common interest at least

>>81681956
I mean the only success I had with women was around 65kg lol. I think it depends on your situation but just as long as you have a little bit of muscles and are lean that's probably good enough. I am 181.5cm.

>>81681963
This is OP, I actually went to the bookstore yesterday lol. Made a post about it.

>>81681992
Nice! I love them so much! I always end up going there on my time off work, this reminded me actually I havent been in a while might have to go on saturday

>>81681093 (OP)
Didn't read, just came here to wish you good luck

>>81681413
Selfies not allowed on this board.

>>81682039
I said that's what I look like, it's not my pic. It's from Reddit.

>>81681093 (OP)
try at third places where live performances happen.

people are especially receptive at DIY venues

>>81681093 (OP)
I don't thing cold approaching works in the 2020s, HOWEVER you have guts and the ability to take a leap into the unknown, which means that you will likely have a successful and interesting life.
Much respect to you bro
As for women, you need to figure out a way to meet them through other acquaintances.

>>81681396
Gotta get lean for that.
And meet women through other people.
And not be sober

>>81681652
This 100%
Crucial to keep in mind

>>81681093 (OP)
It takes a lot of guts to cold approach like that

>>81681963
>Id be more happy if someone approached me there because theres somewhat of a common interest at least
sorry for asking but how would you like to be approached? for example, i suppose you wouldn't talk to a guy that said "let me see those bookworm panties", it's just an example but you get the idea

>>81681680
>>81681684
If those are true then I have never met a girl genuinely into me

>>81681093 (OP)
I could never do that. I wish I could but I would just make a joke out of myself. AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH I HATE THIS WORLD I JUST WANT A GF.

>>81682275
Welcome to the real world, where most men are ugly for most women.

>>81682271
LMAO yeah no thats a valid question, obviously I cant speak for everyone but I think a simple compliment works nice, like oh I like your shirt

More specifically if its an interest store being like 'hey, I like x book too, what other books are you a fan of in this genre' or something along those lines. Something that opens a general conversation.

Maybe even asking for recommendations, that would make me happy, but Im a certified autist yapper so I could talk for ages about what I like. Just anything thats casual, shows intent, but isnt pushy

>>81682275
Yeah, when a girl likes you she literally can't stop talking to you and making it obvious for you.
>>81682290
You miss every shot you don't take

>>81682305
Polite, kind and unjudgemental foid spotted?

I wish you the best

>>81682305
thank you for your patience anon, you're very nice
>Im a certified autist yapper so I could talk for ages about what I like
i love listening to people yap, but i can't yap myself so people think i'm not interested and the conversation dies :(

>>81682426
No worries!

Honestly its an issue with how much I can talk lmao, I do tone it down for work purposes but I could easily talk about my fave books/games for ages!

If it makes you feel any better coming from an autistic femcel, I like people who would just let me talk, even if theyre not interested.

Probably figures why Im single lmaooo

>>81682441
>I do tone it down for work purposes but I could easily talk about my fave books/games for ages!
it's silly to think that i probably have more chances of finding a person on the internet than irl, i find people like this very attractive but they don't go outside often
>I like people who would just let me talk, even if theyre not interested.
what kind of things do you like yapping about? and, you sound nice. i don't know why you're single

>>81682466
>what kind of things do you like yapping about?
It can be literally anything lmao like if you give me a topic youre interested in Ill talk about it or at least give a vague opinion if im not educated/dont know a lot about it.

Generally though I like a lot of books (clearly lmao) so I like to talk about them, how they made me feel, favoruite characters, how I imagine the worlds (if tehy arent made into a movie)

I also love indie games, hollow knight being one of my faves, I could genuinley talk for ages again about themes, theories, how they made me feel, why I like them.

Just any general interest even if its not a deep chat I just like to talk

But again Im just autistic and like to talk a lot lmao but Ive learned to regulate it in situations where I/others need to focus (work) or when its not the time/place

>>81682502
How old are u autistic femanon?

>>81682518
Im 26 anon

>>81682531
Have you never had a boyfriend? Why not?

>>81682531
Oh shit a fembot that's age appropriate.

>>81682502
>if you give me a topic youre interested in Ill talk about it
would you look at that, i love indie games too! please tell me about your favorite indie games!!
>Generally though I like a lot of books
i'm not that much into reading because i struggle focusing, but if you grabbed a whiteboard and started explaining, i'd love to hear about that too
>I just like to talk
do you like listening, too?
>But again Im just autistic and like to talk a lot lmao
i don't think this is a bad thing at all, if anything i like seeing people being passionate about the things they like. i am not a very passionate person so it's something new for me

>>81682537
When I was younger yeah (like 16) theres no crazy ex story or anything like that, we just werent compaitble
>>81682538
omg this heals me, all the apprentices at work (21 year olds) think Im so old lmaooo

>>81682560
I'm 34 but take care of myself/have good hygiene so I still look mid 20's.
Having conventionally attractive features helps though.
Do you enjoy music? If so what types are your favourite?

>>81682548
>would you look at that, i love indie games too! please tell me about your favorite indie games!!
Omg dont even get me started!! Night in the woods is one of my all time faves, I genuinley thinks it captures your 20s so well! Celeste is another fave, it always made me feel calm in sad times (despite being hard af lmao)
>i'd love to hear about that too
dont tempt me, youll know the whole plot of don quixote
>do you like listening, too?
love it, i love hearing peoples interest, and explaining almost like a presentation, i love that engagement of questions

>>81682579
I love music, Im no expert or anything like that, I dont know whats objectivley good I just like what I like.

But I listen to a lot of britpop, so like oasis and blur and that vibe (I am biased since im british lmao)

>>81682560
What race are u femanon-

>>81682609
I am white anon

>>81682602
Oi lass you got a loicence for bein on 4chan innit?

>>81682590
>Omg dont even get me started!!
no no, please get started all you want!!
>Night in the woods
i have never played this one! what is it about? i know i can google it, but i prefer reading your thoughts about it
>Celeste
i play this one once a year for the challenge! i like getting all strawberries and b, c sides. did you play the 8th and 9th chapters?
>youll know the whole plot of don quixote
i already read this haha but you can still yap about it!! all yapping is welcome
>love it, i love hearing peoples interest
if i am honest, i'm feeling tempted to ask you to be my friend

>>81681093 (OP)
>Day 3
I guess I missed the Day 2 thread? I'm the guy from the Day 1 thread who told you about that episode of Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends where he gets coached on picking up women.

Anyway, you got the sequence wrong. You're supposed to compliment her first, then quickly introduce yourself, THEN ask a question to get a conversation going. You skipped the first TWO and went straight to the question. Also, and this is important, hitting on one girl a day is going to take too long. You have to do this with every cute girl you see.

Here's what should should have done.
1. Compliment - Say something nice about how she looks or how she acts, any random thing about her. "I love your outfit!" or "Those shoes are so cool!"
2. Introduction - The moment she says "Thank you" say "Hi, I'm anon" and you hold out your hand for her to shake it. Then you quickly go to
3. Question - The avacodo thing was good, but it could have been better. Instead of saying "You good at picking ripe ones" you should have said "So how can I tell when these are ripe? When I buy them they always go bad the next day."

The problem with asking "Are you good at picking the ripe ones?" is that it invites a simple yes or no answer and you risk the conversation dying. When you instead ask her "So how can you tell when these are ripe?" it invites her to explain how she knows which are the good ones. It even gives you the chance to flirt a little, because she'll probably tell you to give them a little squeeze to see if they're firm. You'd smile and say "Just a little squeeze?" Then you can compliment her again and say "Well you seem to know what you're doing. So what do you use avocados for anyway? Do you make your own guacamole or do you have them in salads?" etc., etc.

Now keep in mind that no matter how well you do there is no guarantee of success with any one particular woman. She may have her husband waiting for her in the car in the parking lot, or she may have just come from a funeral

>>81682615
This is OP if you want you can add me at shamomanga might as well give it a try lol

>>81682621
>hitting on one girl a day is going to take too long. You have to do this with every cute girl you see.
Bro I'm not doing that cringey yad type pua stuff hitting on multiple girls a day. Literally reminds me of this. Yeah I will start with a compliment but I did that yesterday and it didn't do shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB2gKi1IDp0

>>81682616
give me ur bbm
>>81682618
>no no, please get started all you want!!
I would happily talk all evening about it lmaoo
>i have never played this one! what is it about?
its kind of hard to explain, its very story focussed as opposed to gameplay focussed, and the best way i can describe is pure autumnal vibes whilst being slightly spooky but so comforting, would really recommend you check it out!
>i already read this haha but you can still yap about it!! all yapping is welcome
omg lets compare experiences with the book
>i'm feeling tempted to ask you to be my friend
im always down to talk to someone unless im at work, so if you have a discord drop it

>>81682664
BBM? Did I just hit a timewarp back to 2010?

>>81682672
Im gonna ping you for a rate!

>>81682682
I'll make a filtering discord and add you if you'd like to keep chatting.

>>81682715
Yeah sure Ill add you

>>81682664
>I would happily talk all evening about it lmaoo
and that's okay!! i love it
>the best way i can describe is pure autumnal vibes whilst being slightly spooky but so comforting, would really recommend you check it out!
i'm absolutely playing it!! i love story focused games, the way you describe it sounds like the opposite of hollow knight actually
>omg lets compare experiences with the book
okay!!
> if you have a discord drop it
do you have email? can you email me your discord to this address?
athrowawayaccsoyoudontgetdoxxed@proton.me

>>81682732
I dont but Ill make one and email you:)

>>81682720
Alright I made a discord, what's your addy?

>>81682741
thank you! someone emailed me with a fake discord tag, i guess i'll have to figure out who did it

>>81682764
innocenf

>>81682778
>innocenf
Sent, I'm justafilteracc

>>81682782
no, that's a fake account, don't add it

>>81682797
It's not fake I literally just made it.

>>81682803
i know because i got that person added to my friends list and the account is years old

>>81682803
sorry, i meant to say "innocenf" is not the person from this thread, it's another person. their account is being used as catfish for some reason

>>81682817
ahhhh, I wasn't looking to edate anyways just make friends.
No loss there.

>>81681093 (OP)
Numbers game. Keep going. Most of us stop because the rejection rate is so high on the front end until you learn. Yhink Groundhog Day.

>>81682826
i wonder why people do this, it's bad

>>81682866
I have no clue, but I can wager a guess that they want to extract money from some really desperate dude.

>>81681125
maybe it is because you talk in discord format

>>81681093 (OP)
profoundly based, please continue and be honest, if this is true you are amazing for this and I am sure at some point you will get lucky, if not it will be a very interesting case study for future generations

>>81681553
you're retarded, women are much more emotional than men. Hitting on a chick in the grocery store is only seen as brave because of the culture we currently live in. It isn't like this for everyone, at all. Only exacerbated by being terminally online.
>>81681652
He didnt have a chance because woman can pick up on your insecurity within seconds. Espcially when he is talking about stupid shit. What you need to understand is that there are other men who will be direct and make it clear that they want her. WOMEN WANT TO BE WANTED.
>>81682147
Cold approaching is more effective than online due to saturation.

>>81681166
>haven't been on a date since i was 18
Fuck off, Chad
Die
>>81681093 (OP)
>>"I'm actually just in a rush sorry"
At this point, if I were you, I would've clubbed her over the head with a pineapple. Then I would've stomped on her head until her head cracked open. Then I would've squirted lemon juice into the crack in her skull, so her brain would get melted by the citric acid.

>>81681093 (OP)
Based. Good try, anon.

>>81683535
>At this point, if I were you, I would've clubbed her over the head with a pineapple. Then I would've blah blah blah psycho fantasy gibberish
Hey look, Mitch is in the thread. Better make your saving throw versus insanity, Mitch. Pic related

>>81683699
No clue what any of this means
Not gonna read all the text in that pic either

>>81681093 (OP)
>do you shop here often
nooo
you should have asked her how she picks good fruit and continued the convo from there.

>>81682650
>Literally reminds me of this.
>posts 55 minute video
Bro I'm not watching all that. In any case it seems like you've met the femanon of your dreams in this thread already, hopefully you two lovebirds are already doing a videochat on discord. I would be genuinely happy for you both if that is how your recurring thread ends.

Getting back to my earlier post; I'm not telling you to have "game", or some magical "pick-up-artist" bullshit. These are tips to making yourself seem friendly and approachable to women you meet, and how to start conversations and keep them going.

The reason I told you to try more than once a day is because no matter how good you are at this there is no guarantee of success. As I said, the woman you start chatting with at the grocery store could have a husband and kids waiting for her in the car in the parking lot, or she could have just come back from a funeral and needs to pick up some stuff for the get together with grieving relatives, or any one of a hundred other reasons. Even if you do everything perfectly, it's not always going to work.

Like anything else in life, socializing improves with practice. If you were trying to learn to play the guitar, would you say "I'm going to strum one chord a day until I become the next Link Wray. I mean, given enough time you maybe could learn to play the guitar that way, but you'd achieve success a lot faster if you spent more time on it.

>>81683715
>durrrrrrrr?
>A one page comic is too much to read!
Okay retard

>>81681093 (OP)
brother you are a massive inspiration for all the incels that dont even fucking try
i started being more extroverted the less depressed i got and im telling you life is so much easier once you stop giving a fuck

there are some things i still get scared about but nothing worthwhile doesnt scare you

i recommend practicing in ur head or straight up writing down "situations" and trying to figure out fun/smart/witty shit to say. its practice when you cant practice. gets you far. sometimes you even remember and have a good line to say in the middle of it

>>81681093 (OP)
Your giving creepy vibes if the only reason your doing this is because your KHV. That's pathetic. At 27 you gotta get real. It's more to a relationship than just sex and you could fuck around n stick your dick in crazy or hell your probably crazy. This shit lame and you should find better things to do with your time.

>>81681438
Yeah this is def better try this

>>81684241
I think striking up a conversation in a place where people are moving like grocery store or just shopping is not as effective unless you both have something in common like a band t shirt or something. But like if you are both standing in line together or sitting down a conversation is more natural. Otherwise I think just being direct and asking for her number right away is better

>>81681093 (OP)
>Day 26
>Stuck in a prison cell

>>81681093 (OP)
Ask her to help you pick a good one next time

>>81681093 (OP)
>be 27 year old khhv
>cold winter night
>wearing hood up on hoodie so probably look like a not so trust worthy person
>go to shop for bread and milk
>walking to car through gas station
>girl calls me over
>walk over to her
>says she can't turn the key to the fuel cap on her car because it's frozen solid
>asks me to do it
>get really nervous because don't want to disappoint her since she is trusting me
>try my best
>turn the fuel cap but break the keys into shite from my grip squeezing them
>"umm i uhh broke your keys"
>hand the mess of plastic, metal and wire back to her and walk away in shame
>"th-thanks..."
>don't even look back