Thread 82163036

How we doing drinkers? I went through 2 litres of vodka over 2 days. Woke up this morning in a pool of sweat. For a moment I thought I'd actually pissed myself, which isn't unusual for me during a binge, but fortunately it was only sweat. My right arm was completely numb, and I had a moment of complete panic thinking that I'd had a stroke in my sleep, but it turned out that I only slept on it, and the feeling returned after 30 seconds or so.
I spent the next 30 minutes in a state of total anxiety, before I finally decided to go to the shop and buy more, because I knew I wasn't going to handle this by myself. It's been several hours since then, and I've got a nice mellow drunk going on. Brain is slowed down, it has been sufficiently fueled with the alcohol it craves.

How you guys doing?

>>82163036 (OP)

I alternate drinking with smoking cigars because I don't think I have the genetics to drink even semi-often without blowing my liver up. Alcohol feels great but unfortunately it's bad for your health and a poison like pretty much anything that feels especially good in this world. I am of the opinion that it's better to alternate drugs that target different parts of the body than to overtax one part over a long period of time. That's how you get liver cirrhosis.

i said i wouldnt drink again but i just ran to the liquor store before it closed
ive had 3 panic attacks in the 2 days ive been sober

i told myself i wouldnt drink again but i just made it to the liquor store before closing
ive had 3 panic attacks in the 2 days ive been sober

>>82163085
Not OP. I used to smoke but gave up after only 2yrs. My body straight up began rejecting cigs to the point where I get a gag reflex from inhaling smoke.
As for drinking, I have almost 20yrs of experience with it (started at 12), but never really went too far in terms of frequency and I mostly drink beer. Recently I've cut down on that too.
Thing is, I live in a very alcoholic part of the planet and still, the only people who got liver cirrhosis that I know were GigaDrunks. People who would spend every day for years, decades only sleeping, eating very little and drinking all day at the pub. Basically dudes who drank a case of beer and home made spirits (70-80% alc.) every day for 7-8h, as if it was their day job.
Meanwhile my dad and grandpa, both of them mild alcoholics are fine. My grandpa is in his 80s and still drinking ~2liters of beer every 2-3 days. What I've noticed is that if you stay slim, you have a much better chance of making it to old age while being alcoholic. Both my dad and grandpa are slim, almost underweight. Meanwhile my fat drunkard uncle died of heart failure at 53.

>>82163085
>Alcohol feels great but unfortunately it's bad for your health and a poison like pretty much anything that feels especially good in this world
This is really bizarre though isn't it? It flies completely in the face of evolution.

>>82163108
For someone with anxiety disorders, alcohol is both a Godsend and a curse.

>>82163169

never tried cigs cause you inhale and i have asthma

>>82163185

how does it fly in evolution's face? we never evolved with alcohol, and if we did, specific pressures would need to exist to generate a distaste or unpleasant experience for alcohol.

I can feel myself relapsing again after years of being sober. First it's a glass of red on the weekend, now I'm drinking the whole bottle.

>>82163036 (OP)
A litre of vodka a day is literal suicidal drinking. Do you want to die? Because you will if you keep that up.

I drink like one 500ml beer a day, sometimes I'd have another 330ml later, and in some cases a 330ml drink like Bacardi Breezer.

Am I considered an alcoholic? I don't even feel the alcohol anymore since it's low %.

>>82163399
Not alcoholic but it's now accepted that no amount of alcohol is healthy. It's toxic in any dose. Obviously you're not doing anything near the damage that OP is doing but you're still putting your body under stress.

I don't think I'm an alcoholic but....
I drink about 8 ounces of vodka a night. Sometimes just 4 ounces.

>>82163422
>but you're still putting your body under stress
Am I? I've been trying to cut down honestly just because I feel like it's a bit excessive, even if I don't feel any different. I'd only feel the alcohol if I drink on an empty stomach maybe.

>>82163449
>Am I?
It used to be believed that small amounts of alcohol were benign or even beneficial to the body. That has since been debunked and now the scientific consensus is that any amount of alcohol is toxic. If you're one of those conspiracy theorist types who think everything is a grand conspiracy then I can't help you. I will say that, it's highly unlikely that your current level drinking will do any serious damage. However, all alcoholics start somewhere and there's no saying that you won't end up like OP at some point if you become dependent.

>>82163482
Dunno what researches you're referring to, since there's always a bunch of researches that debunk one another about pretty much anything. Thankfully I'm not dependent, because when I'd have to go on antibiotics I'd not be drinking for like 1-2 weeks and not feel any different. I guess it helps that I'm not drinking for the buzz (I don't feel it anymore anyway except for rare cases), I just drink for the taste.

>>82163502
Your drinking as it stands is analogous to someone smoking a cigarette a day. It's not ideal, but you probably get worse from walking down the street and inhaling car exhaust (in this case, comparable to eating junk food). Probably nothing to worry about, but as I said, still an unnecessary stress on your body.

Pt1. got too long for a post:

8.5year alcoholic here.
Really 8.5 years ago I wasn't even much of a drinker.
Pretty much before it I went through all of 4 years of university doing maybe 6 or so parties.
All of which I always had to figure out to get home, couldn't go hard.
During the start of the last year of uni I got a job, simply because my 3 year degree turned into 4. I moved classes around to be 3.5 years, with time off to get a internship in the last year of it, but then the university moved shit about. Got the internship, finished degree blah blah.

After university, and having an income source I decided to do some things. Managed to somehow link-up with some anons from a /a/ thread for a Japan meetup.
Went to Japan for a month, fantastic, drank too much with them, and did comiket.
Next year, did it again, this time same, drinking, comiket, we all went together for a week long road trip.
All over the previous two years, I'm drinking heavily on Skype with the other guys. Wouldn't call it alcoholism, just clowns drinking on the weekend.

Forward to 2017, I had the chance to work in Japan, so I took it.
Moved to Japan, alcoholism got out of control, 24/7 access to alcohol is awful. Drinking every night alone, slaming strong zero(9%, 500ml cans). Friday and Saturday nights it got worse.
Several times I found myself turning up hungover to work on weekday. Yet somehow people didn't notice? or never brought it up? Maybe they just thought it was part of my personality.
And it's just continued.

>>82163988
Pt2

2020, it got really bad. Working from home, new job(still in Japan).
Why shouldn't I drink everyday? I can wake up at 9-10am, fall out of bed, do whatever. If need be, I can take a nap in bed mid-day.
The anons I met up with, they moved on, connections gone.

My liver is probably long gone. Gaijins "have" to have health checkups, had pains in the area for a few years, but the test numbers while not deathly, are not good.
I sort of understand at this point that money and time are easily no problem for me. I have things that I want to do, and know how to work towards, but I just lounge and waste away.

Still drinking heavy everyday, even when I say to myself "I'll use this week of leave to quit".
I sit at almost 4am on a Wednesday morning, sipping down.

>>82164009
How much are you on daily now?

>>82164242
4 of 500ml at 9%
And then offten finish the night off with 500ml of 500ml at 5% beer.