Thread 82410664

Are you a Christian anon? If not why not?

Because I'm not a semite.

>>82410664 (OP)
once you lose faith in religion it is impossible to get it back. people might lie and say they find god again or whatever but it's all a cope they're lying to themselves. god is dead and religion is too antiquated and pointless. you are free to be a good person without religion.

I don't know, am I a Christian? are you going to make me believe in one god?

>>82410701
Wrong. I became Christian when I was about 25 after being a Reddit atheist since age 12.

I know you're going to say that I'm coping and lying too but I promise I'm not.

>>82410717
so you had a mental breakdown. i do not care you lame ass bitch.

>>82410664 (OP)
No, the bible doesn't make sense, and people who claim to be Christian can't agree on what that means. We even Christians now say Jesus never feed the poor or healed the sick.Thought about making my own.

it's insane to me how zoomers are unironically trying to make being performatively religious a thing just because the western world by large is moving away from religion because it doesn't make sense. it makes me feel like either zoomers are uniquely retarded as a generation or youths will always do the opposite of what the generation before them did. i pray to god zoomers grow out of such a cringe ass mindset.

>>82410717
You switched one jewish religion for another, you were never a person who approached things through empiricism, you just had to subscribe to something.

>>82410664 (OP)
Not really Christian, but I do think the God of Abraham is real. Just a matter of which prophets you listen to

>>82410792
>total lack of religion = jewish religion
what an odd thing to say.

Just doesnt make sense to me. I have a buddy at work that went to prison and is really into it now but I bet his little short ass got raped and is coping now, respectfully since he is a pretty cool dude now.
I just dont get the point of being bad all your life, facing some consequences and then suddenly you are all about Jesus

>>82410735
I didn't. I'm much more mentally stable now than I ever was as an atheist, actually.

>>82410756
Does the existence of flat earthers mean that the earth isn't round? The Bible is very straightforward and someone claiming to be Christian with weird heretical beliefs doesn't change what was written down thousands of years ago.

>>82410701
Religion is what makes people good by establishing moral systems. Without it we literally descend into barbarism

>>82410822
you do not have to follow religion to treat people with kindness and respect. you are a crazy person if you think you need religion to be a good empathetic human being.

>>82410807
No, that flavor of atheism is not a "lack of religion", it's their way of displaying some sort of defiance and pretending, that's the jewish way of being an atheist.
That's why the soibeards of reddit with their ashkenazi admixture and lobotomized, schizophrenic jewish brain feel so off, that's why even their atheism seems like a doctrine they have to follow.

For a normal person, it's just observing life as it is.

>>82410862
if someone is an atheist they just don't believe in religion or god. why is that such a hard thing for you to comprehend? it only has one description.

>>82410664 (OP)
>>82410701
Yeah it's pure grifting. As an atheist, I can lie to christcuck and say I'm one of them again, and just watch them flood me with easy resources because that's what they do. They're so gullible.

Also was it atheism's job to fight civilizational war? Abrahamic faiths create those problems because they're all trying to control one another and be king of the sand castle.

>>82410778
Contrarianism is helluva of drug for them.

>>82410861
Without religion, why is it important to be good or empathetic? From a purely materialistic, utilitarian (atheistic) point of view there is no reason to engage in that behavior unless it somehow provides an advantage over selfish behavior.

Take eugenics/euthanasia, for example. Why should we not kill every retard and cripple and sterilize everyone with an IQ under 100?

>>82410664 (OP)
ASAP rocky?

>>82410904
Inb4 "we should"

>>82410861
Nigger every idea you have about being good comes from religion.

>>82410904
>why is it important to be good
for your own safety
>or empathetic
because your instincts compel you to treat human beings the same way you want to be treated

I mean, they do, right? You're not only pretending to have feelings because you read some instructions from a jewish book, right?

>>82410821
>The Bible is very straightforward and someone claiming to be Christian with weird heretical beliefs doesn't change what was written down thousands of years ago.
Is it through? God gives his followers 10 commandments and then proceeds to have his followers break some of those in his name. Also, why did god go from an active being in human lives to a silent force in the new Testament.

>>82410904
>Without religion, why is it important to be good or empathetic?
if you need religion to be motivated to be a decent person you are genuinely retarded and the definition of an npc.

>>82410945
Why shouldn't we ignore those instincts when there is obvious utility to be gained by doing so, especially when it has no chance of backfiring on you? As long as you're not a retarded cripple and your IQ is >100 you would be unaffected.

>>82410941
it doesn't at all. it came from my parents raising me to be a good person with good morals. parents who were also not religious at all.

>>82410664 (OP)
Question: Why do Americans think Christianity is synonymous with White Civilization?
They know Jesus was Palestinian right? And that bringing Christianity to Rome was an attempt by Jews to usurp the native Roman religion? Why would you ever worship a Middle Eastern man as your Messiah while claiming to be pro-White Civilization?

>>82410959
I have instincts that tell me to have sex with nearly every woman I see. I, and most men ignore those instincts because actually doing that is bad. Why should we not ignore our instinctual empathy when it is advantageous to do so?

>>82410948
Walking around and raising people from the dead is a silent force?

>>82410996
>I have instincts that tell me to have sex with nearly every woman I see
tell me you're brown without telling me you're brown.

>>82411033
Except he didn't do that in the New Testament. Jesus, who already had magical power, rose from the dead. He would talk to people in the Old Testament and tell them to do things, but in the New Testament, he doesn't.
I rather just believe in the universe then the bible.

>>82411044
I'm white. You might have low testosterone or watch too much porn if you don't find most women your age to be attractive.

>>82410968
>Why shouldn't we ignore those instincts
Because they drive you and most people, you don't get to just ignore them, even if you're aware of the process, they affect your behavior and feelings and that applies to everyone else as well, meaning people keep each other in check.

All of your feelings can be reduced to biology and being aware of this fact doesn't mean anything, you still feel the same things, your brain is a machine that reads input and processes information. By the time you're aware of any the results, the process already happened, your entire consciousness is just a collection of instincts and sensory inputs, there's no master process ruling all of it.

People who are capable of acting against the instincts that drive people to be good are perceived as an enemy by the collective and can gain some advantage, but they usually just end up being killed.

>>82411061
you can find people attractive without having invasive thoughts of rape. that's more mental illness or third world behavior.

Hold up a second..Christian?

Too many things happening in my life that should not have been possible at all. Just as an example, with one of them being me having a medical issue that the doctor just flat out told my parents that 100% I was not going to make it and to prepare. Yet, I made a full recovery within a day. Sure, it could have been a mistake on the doctors and the specialists, but they all came to the same conclusion when I was lying in the ICU bed.

>>82410904
Idk maybe civilizational cooperation to achieve what we have now. That's a good reason to not result to barbarism. Tribal unity is good for the progression of that ethnic group. Sociopathic behaviors are aberrant to the collective cohesion of a group of people. You really didn't think about this huh retard?
>>Why should we not kill every retard and cripple and sterilize everyone with an IQ under 100?
Well we should, but that's just a person opinion. Until the aggregate collective opinion changes it's not common or accepted. But hey, women already do that in sexual pre-selection. The vast majority of females won't breed with a retard or a beta male. They want strong, aggressive men. Being smart is just a bonus. You could be dumb but not retarded. Being retarded means you are taken care of not taking care of. But you wouldn't understand this being a low IQ retard, huh? Little bitch faggot.

>>82411097
>something unlikely happened
>must be god there's no other explanation it is definitely god
this is genuinely how dirt poor brown third world farmers with no electricity think you realize this right. was someone good and successful crossing the street and getting hit by a drunk or distracted driver also an act of god? that person had to die........ just because okay!!! it was his will!!!!

>>82410687
Let me ask you a counter question. Why would you choose to believe that the son of God is a Jew and that God's chosen people are Jewish? When you are not a Jew. It is a self defeating belief system. You may as well jerk off to blacked too.

>>82411548
I don't believe in any of that semitic non-sense. They're just desert fairytales.

>>82411058
>he didn't do that in the New Testament
Jesus called in a loud voice, "Lazarus, come out!" The dead man came out, his hands and feet wrapped with strips of linen, and a cloth around his face.
John 11:43-44

>>82410664 (OP)
>believe in made up schizo shit because it's good for societal cohesion
Isn't that just pretending

>>82411548
TRVTH NVKE. You will one day be quoted in the history books.

>>82410778
Being a cringe Christian is just a young person thing like how being a cringe atheist is a millennial young people thing, my guess down the line we will get cringe flat foots or something

>>82411620
Western logic is built on a few axiomatic statements that make Christianity and atheism essentially equivalent in provability. Logic and math suffer from fundamental incompleteness, and so it is true that all systems are built on statements that are ultimately unprovable, making atheism as unprovable as Christianity or any other religion. We all live in epistemological darkness and are like the blind leading the blind.

Christianity is an Abrahamic religion. It is based in the torah, which details the actions of evil demons and evil people. Jesus could not be divine because he was a claimant to torah prophecy. The torah is fake. It's a jewish native isekai power fantasy written in 270BC. Jesus was circumcised.

>Luke 2: "On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived."

I denounce Yahweh
I denounce Abraham
I denounce Moses
I denounce Jesus of Nazareth
I denounce Saul of Tarsus
I denounce Mohammad
I denounce Joseph Smith

>>82410904
>Without religion, why is it important to be good or empathetic? From a purely materialistic, utilitarian (atheistic) point of view there is no reason to engage in that behavior unless it somehow provides an advantage over selfish behavior.
You answer the question yourself, because it DOES provide an advantage, the idea being if one is kind to "others", the "others" will be kind to them in return... and maximize each others resources. This is why religious people do it too, they just don't want to admit to it for fear of being denied the resources they're after by faking kindness.

>Take eugenics/euthanasia, for example. Why should we not kill every retard and cripple and sterilize everyone with an IQ under 100?
Emotional attachment from their parents. Love. If they're not actively bothering anyone, it's not worth destroying them. Humanity can't solve these problems, yet. There are always risks involved with making humans.

Religions want these people to suffer though. I lived through it. I lived through christcucks telling me god wanted me to be a deformed virgin and get made fun of by them, because it was gods plan.

>>82410941
thats cute, nice way to co-opt morality and claim that you are the truth of everything good

>>82411598
Sorry I meant to reply to the OP.

>>82410664 (OP)
Yes.
I choose to be.
Religion poses the most effective and rational system of group identity in human history, while still allowing for the expression of individuality. Monotheistic religion, that is. And the message of Jesus is the one that resonates with me the most.

>>82410861
Bullshit.
The sheer concept of morality and good and evil is strictly religious in it's concept and the favorable part of it is explicitly Christian.
Mayas thought it is a good thing to violently murder someone in front of a statue, Christians thing it is a good thing to feed you and give you clothing, it is pretty clear which one of it is more beneficial for an overall societal context.
If Atheists would truly believe their own bullshit, they would start rape and murder everything they want because the concept that those two are bad, is essentially only really found in Christianity (most other religions also kinda say don't do it, but they make exceptions here and there)

>>82411727
no problem, mate

>>82411753
you're not a christian, you're just pretending so you can be in the club

>>82410959
What is a decent person, tell me without using dogmatics that were EXCLUSIVELY invented by Christianity (since the term goodness has completely different definitions throughout every other religion).

Christianity actually cant win a war especially against atheism, almost as if you're just supposed to turn the other cheek.

>>82411775
I don't know what that means. I believe in God and the Trinity.
If you want to reject me because I don't go to church, fine. My velief in God is not dependent on you.
Call me by whatever name you want, it is inconsequential to my faith.

>>82410664 (OP)

No. Today's Christianity worships the Demiurge.

>>82410664 (OP)
no
that shit is not real and lying all the times makes me feel bad

>>82410664 (OP)
this bitch is insanely annoying, i have no idea why we have to tolerate these cunts because everyone in their home countries rejected them

>>82410664 (OP)
>be me
>be gaytheist
>still somehow magically able to not be fond of muslims
Whats up with hyper lgbtqiaa2s+++ gaytheists not being able to dislike islam? Or brown people in general? They suck, and while i also dislike fags and trannies i would imagine if you LOVE them and slurp their juices up 24/7 you wouldnt be too fond of people that want them killed in public. The enemy of your enemy is not always your friend

>>82411971
That's the thing -- theists are essentially lying. Even if they believe they aren't -- they are. It creates untrustworthiness.

>>82410822
Humans have been religious and barbaric since we weren't even homo-sapiens. It was the enlightenment that brought widespread atheism and widespread morality. Before the enlightenment "men of god" would spend their days killing and torturing each other until they converted to the right cult.
When you Abrahamics speak of "barbarism" you probably just mean 2 dudes getting married or whatever benign bullshit you pretend is the problem with our society.

>>82410701
Good luck getting your kids to behave without religion.
>T atheist who converted to Judaism so my kids would have connections. No, I didn't circumcised them

>>82410664 (OP)
No, I can't fake being religious.

>>82412143
>Whats up with hyper lgbtqiaa2s+++ gaytheists not being able to dislike islam? Or brown people in general?
They're just leftists and conforming to what the left is pushing because it's also pushing some ulterior thing they identify with, like being gay.