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I asked chatgpt to generate a movie poster based on my life/cv. This was the result.

Here is another.

Final year Bsc Finance and Statistics. /sci/ approved or should I go shill memecoins on biz?

>>16717679
not science, go post pink wojaks on /biz/

>>16717679
+1 on the memecoins to be desu

>checking out colleague's dissertation
>acknowledgements section is pure cringe and simp shit
>has a K-Pop quote taking up a whole page
What the fuck is wrong with Physics PhDs?

Undergrad here, is doing a PhD for spacecraft GNC really the move or should I just go and get an industry job in the MIC? I've always wanted to do space shit but it seems like we're getting destroyed by China + funding has been axed everywhere + I had a crisis of faith yesterday, I'm doing this engineering dynamics summer class and spent 8 hours on the last pset just to get 55% on it, then I check my email and get this from some random student who emailed the entire fucking class:

> It was fun having to know each and everyone of ya'll. I hope ya'll have a great summer. This class reminded me of how stupid and retarded the educational system really is. I really think some people are destined for greatness in life, my brother in law got 20 million dollars in his account with a math level of college algebra. I showed him some of stuff we being doing in this class, he took the bullshit physic problems and started wiping his ass. Took out his wallet and start throwing $100 billed and said, Fuck that shit, my time are more valuable lmfao

I'm fucking demoralized honestly, do I just wimp out and become a defense contractor for the paycheck??

>>16717506 (OP)
>https://sciencecareergeneral.neocities.org/
Is there any info about EE field in PhD?

I'm currently in a fairly new "nuclear" physics group that does precision measurements of the weak mixing angle using electron accelerators. I would really, really like a real job, preferably one making death machines to vaporize communists, that pays an actual living wage. Should I drop it for the new AMO group that has funding?

FAANG internships, y'all fucking with it or nah?

>>16718201
Everyone fails sometimes, it's just a part of the process. Money doesn't matter, just do what makes you happy. Unless making a lot of money is what makes you happy, which is a thing. But if all you care about is money you should be an issuance broker or market analyst or something gay like that.

>>16718522
The girl I did my summer internship with last year ended up turning down an internship for Google to stay with our company because it was more fun and actually offered her more money. You really couldn't go wrong with it if only for the resume boost tho.

>>16718574
It was this or remain a fucking raped beast of burden slave to my evil supervisor.e against at the nearest opportunity.

>>16718597
Ooooooh I can't even type straight I hate him so much.

>>16718522

No.

>Facebook and Google

AI support for zionist genocide.

>Amazon

Exploitation of slave labor in US prisons.

>Microsoft

Exploitation of slave labor in US prisons and AI support for zionist genocide.

>Apple

Exploitation of child labor.

>Netflix

Sexual exploitation of children.

I do not aspire to work at any of the FAGMAN companies or their subsidiaries like OpenAI.

>Tesla

Also zionist.

My soul is not for sale. I don't need a huge salary, just enough to save and build my own dreams. Then I would like to do AI research on my own time with academics on a purely scientific level.

>>16718605

Wall Street is where you go if money is your goal. I have worked for Wall Street and quit over ethical reasons on offer of millions of dollars. You will find yourself working for people who profit on wars (much like Silicon Valley) and who privately celebrate 9/11 for making gold futures go up. At least scientists care about advancing the human condition and not just money. Noble cause.

>>16718605
>>16718611
Big tech will buy your soul, if it is up for sale. This is why our theoretical physicists either become Wall Street quants or leave for Europe. It is sad. I wish we prioritized science over gambling on derivatives. The NSF and the DOE still do important research. I am not saying all of SV is evil either but having a conscience and morality will close a lot of doors in this country.

>>16718614

A lot of bright young minds are convinced that the purpose of their intelligence is to maximize their income at the confluence of capital and technology. They are mentally molded into the service of shareholders and imperialists through academia to comply to the state and masters of industry.

What is the purpose of a bright young mind? To maximize profits for technology corporations? To invent new military weapons for genocidal wars, wars that also yield profits for said corporations?

That is what the state and its controlling oligarchs mold them to think. No, the best purpose of a bright young mind is to serve humanity. To serve the goodness of the human race, ultimately to serve God. Intellect is not character nor is it the soul. Science is noble, so is leadership, non-profits, education, things of that nature. It is the allure of money, which is ultimately power, that corrupts so many young minds.

A career, a human purpose, is a very careful choice. There is a hidden war for your soul, all of these forces are contending to amass the power of your mind for their interests. To be a special cog in their own machines of profit and imperial power. Don't waste your potential in service to evil. I'd say it is best to carefully choose your path in life to do good and avoid evil. Just my two cents.

>>16718617
Your only is towards yourself and those who are dependent on you. The goal is to maximize the well-being of this very small subset of people. Generally that means making as much money as possible.

You either step on people or you are a doormat. There aren't really spectator seats.

>>16718617
Your only duty is towards yourself and those who are dependent on you. The goal is to maximize the well-being of this very small subset of people. Generally that means making as much money as possible.

You either step on people or you are a doormat. There aren't really spectator seats.

t. science cuck living in a run-down one-bedroom flat who bikes to work and will never retire

What is more attainable for the average sized person? STEM academia or professional competitive eating?

>>16717506 (OP)
>be me
>graduate into covid
>have nothing better to do so do grad school
>do MSc at a research institute, they offer a job, stay there
>do PhD because it helps out in project grants
>publish some low impact slop because project deadlines demand publications
>about to finish PhD
>realize have become completely unemployable and name is ruined forever
realistically, how do I recover from this? I've got an engineering degree and lots of programming experience in C++ and Python. is it possible to get a job if you've spent a couple years at a lab? do I have to change my legal name? I just want to be able to find a median wage job somewhere and not stay a slave to this institute forever

>>16718522
what's the point of asking this question? if you can get into FAANG you go into FAANG, but 99.9% of people will never make it. it's not your decision to make

>check email
>still no job offers

>>16718311
why would you want to do a PhD retard get a fucking job

>>16719449
I'm confused why does studying and working at a research institute ruins your employability?

>job searching in the field of firmware / embedded / system architect
>make 65k out of uni (Canadastan) doing R&D for a new department start up, feel insanely bored and understimulated
>See postings offering 60-70k for 4-5 years experience
>IoT manager roles 75k lmfao

Idk bros the shitskin invasion clearly devaluing public jobs (non co-op to full-time shit) it's low key crazy that I had a genuine comedown from applying like crazy because clearly I'm doing ok compared to whats out there. Really hoping to gain some enterprise experience though it's pretty aids working for a super small company in terms of how jewish the bosses are.

Wish I was an engineer, no one gives a fuck about physics and mathematics undergrads even if I have more combined paid and technical club experience than years in uni concurrent to uni. If it wasn't for (((APEGA))) I'd land a cozy electrical engineering job, but nah I ain't got the ring even though I spent more time doing PCB / signal an work than those fags. Thanks for reading my blog.

>get computer engineering degree
>get embedded software job for like a year and a half
>get laid off
>bum around, try applying to jobs every couple months but it doesn't go anywhere
>been like a year and a half now
>start reading math and math-y cs (type theory etc), like it a lot
>want to go back to school to study it
Is this retarded? US btw. I doubt I'd get into a grad program for math, but I think I could finish a bachelors in 3 or maaaaybe 2 years. Then maybe get into a grad program? I want to see how far into academia I could get. But it looks like academic is getting nuked so maybe I'd have to look for programs abroad? Not sure how realistic that is.

>>16719508
because if you publish mid slop everybody can see you're a retard who publishes mid slop. if you've spent time in research you better have top journal publications only, and lots of them. otherwise everyone (correctly) assumes you're an underperforming retard who couldn't get a job in industry, meaning that every day you spend in academia is like an employment gap but even worse

>>16719508
>>16719585
of course there are lots of retards in industry too but at least industry doesn't make you wear your stupidity on your sleeve through publications

>>16719559
What is this opposite day lmao (I'm anon above you). Unless you get a masters + in mathematics it's a fucking joke and won't mean anything. Every pure math person who didn't do research (idk what you can even do as an undergrad in pure math) or got coops just ended up as a software slave for front end shit or data analysis.

It all depends on your finances if you can soak another degree in terms of time commitment why not. I'm in hella debt and want to buy a house / propose to my gf so if it wasn't up to that making me wage slave / try to find bigger better shit in industry. I personally would have loved to done some form of phys-engg degree (they offered it second year but I would have had to do an extra year if I transferred, hindsight I inted) and get a masters in engineering. Engineering masters programs are just start up babysitting club where every single person I've met rugged their research and went private sector almost immediately after graduating or half way through.

>>16719449
>realistically, how do I recover from this?
Just go to industry, apply for jobs.
>I've got an engineering degree and lots of programming experience in C++ and Python.
That is an advantage.
>is it possible to get a job if you've spent a couple years at a lab?
Sure. I did.
>do I have to change my legal name?
Not needed, thankfully
>I just want to be able to find a median wage job somewhere and not stay a slave to this institute forever
What is your technical field?

>>16719669
thoughts?

What should i get my masters in? I have chemical engineering bs and my company is paying for masters. I was thinking maybe EE or CS.

>>16719643
Thanks for replying. Sadly I don't have any advice about how to get an embedded job because I really just got a call from a recruiter one day and then had a zoom interview then an in-person "talk to 5 people" interview then I got an offer. But that was like, 2021.

>software slave for front end shit or data analysis
to be desu I wouldn't even mind that so much. but I would like to get a masters or above. i just don't know if doing that in the US is fucked now because of funding cuts. so my plan would be "do really good in undergrad and get into a masters program abroad" but i don't know what the base rate likelihood for that even is.

>>16719687
>What is your technical field?
Robotics. My engie degree was mech, my MSc is comp sci, my PhD is technically comp sci but the work I've done is in robotics (so a mix of all kinds of shit realistically, software + ME + EE)
>just apply for jobs
been doing it for the past 3 years no luck and it feels increasingly hopeless.

>>16719466
> why would you want to do a PhD retard get a fucking job
EE in ASIC roles in Europe are usually filled by PhD graduates.

>>16719728
so are mcdonalds counters

>>16719819
and cafe counters

>>16719819
>>16719864
cope harder, tradesman

>>16719887
>tradesman
I've already handed in my dissertation though I haven't defended it yet. I'm telling you it's not worth.

>>16719864
Honestly, I do believe you. I just want a nice add-on next to my name in my email signature - and something I can brag about to my landlord when I’m renting apartments. It’s pretty popular here in Germany.

>>16720035
You’d be better off seeing a therapist to get over your narcissism and immaturity. Even in Germany these days nobody cares about academic degrees anymore. What really matters is whether you’ve got money in your pocket.

In reality, a bachelor’s or master’s graduate with some experience will earn more than a PhD holder simply because the PhD graduate spent extra years of their life and never got real commercial experience. Even some damn industrial automation engineer working at copper mines will be making more than you.

>>16720041
Well yeah, mining pays quite handsomely.

World record rejection speedrun. 19 minutes, 8pm Tuesday night, posted today. Surely the AI jew got me, I refuse to believe oil and gas HR works this hard.

Figured I'd share so y'all can have a laugh and ask if anyone else had similar experiences? My CV isn't AI generated and has one invisible table for formatting my name, email etc.

>>16717506 (OP)
>Turing portrait
ok pedo

Going to major in electrical engineering. What do you think? Or should I do computer engineering?

>>16720097
got turned down by locksneed within 3 hours. ME with no internships so maybe it was hr.

>>16720109
Open indeed. Check the local job market for both options. Don’t be an idiot.

How do you make friends as a PhD candidate/posdoc? I just want someone to get wasted with and complain about shit. I'm on year 4 and I have made zero friends, I just grind.

3 years after a math bs and underemployed… what do I do? I know how to program and I code everyday, but have never done it professionally and don’t feel like the programming I do is relevant( it’s more like numerical/ computational). I really love computational stuff but I never had an internship so don’t I feel like any company will give me the time of day. Any advice?

>Be me
>Physics Major
>Second semester grad school
>Have hardass professor for Electrodynamics who gives 2/10 on tests problems if you do one thing wrong
>Get D in class
>mfw 2.33 GPA and get put on academic probation and lose all funding
Should I just quit? The same professor is teaching Quantum mechanics in the fall and if I get anything less than a B again I'll get expelled. He basically made it clear to me that he doesn't care whether I pass or fail, so I can't expect him to be very helpful. The university lab I'm working in barely pays enough to cover rent, and I don't have enough money to pay tuition without taking out some predatory private loan or begging my parents for money, and they seem reluctant to pay for anything. There are plenty of tech companies around the city I grew up in that I'm qualified to work for with my physics bachelor's degree along my graduate lab experience. I feel like the only reason to continue grad school is pure egotism at this point, and maybe the promise of better job prospects. I've already decided that I have no interest in academia, so should I just skip to the part where I get a real job?

>>16720138
Unless you absolutely desperately need a PhD then don't do one it simply isn't worth the heartache

>>16720200
Is it at least worth it to stay long enough for a masters degree? It would certainly help with getting a better job, then again so would industry experience.

>>16718603
I hate him too. Fuck supervisors. The fucker is already in a very privileged position, but he still cares more about playing scientist than my real future.

Did you already get the internship? I was thinking of applying next year, at the very end of my PhD contract.

>>16720208
You might try working for a bit before the masters, that's a good move cause then you've got some money to spend on the chica's, a better idea of the industry.

>>16720230
I somehow got an internship I do not deserve, I have no advice because this is clearly my lottery ticket coming in.

>>16719536
I'm looking at IoT and edge ML purely out of remote possibilities.
Yeah, I was about to study maths but went for the cozier engi career kek
Right now im pic.rel but I want something challenging embedded again.
Time for a masters degree?

>>16719717
Nigga.
How are you applying for jobs? are you that autistic?

First off, what country are you in? If you live in a shithole the robotics market will suck. Remote roles (for countries that actually develop shit) are rare but they exist.
Do you just apply on linkedin? Try directly on the site, cold calling, check with your network, etc. A big part of what gives you leverage is your uni social network.
Your chances can't be that bad. Maybe update your skills? try ROS2
TL;DR
>Look up guides on applying
>Contribute to github
>get a vaguely related job. no employment < shit employment
>Work at interviewing, it is a separate skill.

>>16720572
Anyone study AI/ML?
I'm looking at studying something in that field and try and get a niche industry like robotic vision, GPU firmware development, edge ML, IoT or something but I'm looking for more input.
Is it a good idea or just a meme degree?

>>16720578
Im pivoting towards this area but I studied pure math. I dont think the degree matters so much. If I had to do it again, I would still get a pure math bachelor's but get a masters in applied statistics.

>>16720120
new PR. Rejected by Blue Origin in less than 10 minutes!

>>16720578
>>16720599

I'm a PhD in AI/ML but it's not looking good. I'm trying to focus more on the hardware side of things because I was originally interested in numerical mathematics, but even here, there are just way too many job applicants and basically no job openings, and literally 0 junior jobs.
I'm too deep to pivot now, but I'll likely end up unemployed after I finish.

>>16720675
Ooooof
IoT is looking more job stable/secure but mostly because of it being proprietary...
Guess I'll do cloud slop for the rest of my life.

>>16720675
Do you have any backup plans?

>>16719691
IDK about EE but anything CS is a bloodbath

>>16720882
I think chemical ms would be easier no? I want to get it since my company pays. Chemical might pigeon hole me career wise.

>>16720888
What I meant by bloodbath is the complete lack of employment opportunities in the CS sector.
>Chemical might pigeon hole me career wise
Is it a stable career field at least?

>>16720891
Idk i feel like nothing is stable atm in general. Im in a really stable job right now working for govt. I just may want to leave at some point. Getting the masters would jump my pay with this company too. Im thinking skills maxxing is the only thing that matters in this shit tier society

>>16720715
Bog standard SWE, cloud or dev-ops have the best job markets in tech.
As soon as you go into a narrow niche you will find that there are still 100x applicants for every position and the job market is more competitive.
For example consider being a CAD developer. How many people can do computational geometry? You'd think it would pay better than being a SWE. Nope. Pays way worse than being a SWE at FAANG.

>>16720880
I'm considering opening my own shop, install PV solar systems.

>>16720128
>friends

>>16720041
>industrial automation engineer working at copper mines will be making more than you.
how do I get this job? honest question. I will take any industrial automation role in Germoney.

>>16720109
your major doesn't matter for shit, what matters is the first real job you can land and keep for a couple years.

>>16720575
>First off, what country are you in?
tiny eastern euro shithole that will get destroyed by war in 2-5 years max
>remote
I'm not retarded (well, not anymore retarded than the baseline level of retardation it takes to get enrolled into a PhD program). I want to get out of this shithole ASAP and I've been applying for every single job I can find in Germoney and other real countries for like 5 years now.
>Do you just apply on linkedin?
Yes, but also elsewhere. What the fuck else am I gonna do?
>network
What network? The only people I get to interact with in my day job are other EU project money grifters in the same fake ass bitch industry ("research").
>uni
I barely interact with it. I work at an independent national research institute. And the uni is worthless for any kind of networking because it's not any kind of prestigious institution with worldwide reach, just a national uni at a shitty irrelevant country.
>try ROS2
bitch I've been working with ROS of both varieties for like 5 years now. what should I try, huh?

>>16720578
>robotic vision
>niche
lmao.

as a general rule of thumb, anything that sounds remotely cool is going to have infinity jeets competing with you for any application, and the HR roasties like jeets far more than they like you.

Am I fucked as a comp sci student in getting a job right after graduating? Also getting a minor in data science(which i dont think will help too much)

I finally got a job (industry) with my PhD. What is next? Gender transitioning?

>>16721112
oh yeah, I'm well aware that niche fields probably pay the same or less but job stability should be higher (in theory) and I just want to work something that isn't brain numbing.

Idunno about other people but if I work all day on bog I leave work and I feel stuck in the same head space and can't do intellectual shit like personal projects or study. It depresses me man.
Thanks for reading.

>>16721125

>>16721122
>tiny eastern euro
ooof
>Get out of this shithole ASAP
That's rough man. First job I got I had to move but after that my employment opportunities.... no actually I think they remained pretty much the same.
>What the fuck else am I gonna do?
Network, there a fuck ton of other websites.
>what should I try, huh?
Cloud techs

Idunno what to tell you. Build something on your own time that is applicable to industry?
It's a crap shoot!

>>16721369
>Network
this is just a way to speak without saying anything. it's not advice. it's not meaningful. it conveys no information. there are no specific steps stated or implied here that one can take.

>>16721369
also,
>Build something on your own time
bro I'm already doing work on my own time without pay just to get everything done at my day job. usually I work about 60 hours a week, sometimes 80-90. what the fuck am I gonna build on my own time on top of that? do you have infinite time and energy?

>>16721386
Basically make friends. I'm not even talking about making good friends, just people you know that will have a job in the future so that you can ask for referrals, recommendations, etc.
Try harder my autism fren, I found it on the first google search I did. I'm sure a PhD candidate can get that far.
>>16721388
Then you are already cucked. Why work so much for nothing in return? Do you at least enjoy it? Why study a PhD if you can't even get a job?
>do you have infinite time and energy?
No... but I also don't swallow other peoples shit willy nilly.

>>16721362
That's not true. Niche fields don't correlate with stability. For example, in the niche area of FPGAs, there are currently very few job openings outside of the military and aerospace sectors. Many graduates are competing alongside pajeets and chinos. Meanwhile, the Power and Energy sector offers a large number of job opportunities, and that has been the case for quite a long time. Yes, the salaries there aren't like in FAANG, but there is stability and a guaranteed chance of employment.

>>16721396
> Stability ≠ Availability
FPGAs are more niche than cloud devs for sure but I wouldn't consider a FPGA engineer low on job opportunities. Definitely higher bar for entry but once your in your in.

>>16721393
>Why work so much for nothing in return?
it's not nothing. they give me a job. I don't have a life anyway so I might as well maximize my chances of keeping the job I've managed to land, even if it's shit.
>you can ask for referrals, recommendations, etc.
but why the fuck would they give referrals and recommendations for some random shithead they barely know? the only people who've got any reason to stake their name on my performance are the people who have a direct incentive not to aid me in getting employment anywhere else, aka my boss and my sorta-boss (senpai would be the best term unironically)
>why study a PhD
because that's what you gotta do if you want to keep the job at the lab. it helps with grant applications.

>>16721414
>who've got any reason to stake their name on my performance
bad way to word it, what I am trying to say here is that the only people who've got reason to be confident enough in my ability to stamp their own name on any affirmation are the ones who've got no gain in doing so.

>>16721416
I don't know how it works in eurostan but in North America someone recommends you, you go to the top of the applicant stack, interview and if you pass the person that referred you gets some cash.
The referral only implies you are not a fraud and not socially retarded, If someone that works there recommended you it probably means they "vibe with the company culture", whatever that means.
In the words of one of my previous fren/boss, we can teach the stack not the soft skills.

>>16721414
So then you do enjoy what you do?
Man even if it guarantees a job, fuck that.
Only reason I can see to slave over it is if you really really like your job, you are maintaining your partner/kids, have absolutely no safety net.

I had a very well paying job almost right out of uni before the market went to shit, enjoyed like 40% of my total work before I was let go and learnt a bunch. Ended up moving back with my parents and I realized I earn almost the same as I did before because I don't pay rent or utilities. Sure the work is a slog but something better will come/I'll study a masters in the meantime.

If your objective is to find a decent job and move somewhere else, I'd think your more than equipped. If I was in your shoes I'd try and tough it out while you finish you PhD, save some dosh, take a breather and apply to jobs.

You have decent skills, just gotta learn to market them. If your social skills aren't great you can work on those too, like any other skills.

I have faith in you anon :)

>>16721430
>So then you do enjoy what you do?
what ever did I post to give you that impression? I do what I have to do at this job because this is the only job I've got, nobody else will even look at my resume let alone give me a job.
>someone recommends you
why would they? they don't know me. I wouldn't recommend some rando I don't know.
>partner
>kids
30 year old khhv with no social life no hobbies nothing just come home (live in a student dorm at 30) and watch youtube or argue with people on 4chan

>>16721499
I guess your only solution is suicide then. Good luck anon.

>>16721396
>>16721362

Yeah, another aspect I didn't mention, with tech niches, you need to be aware that a lot of them have restrictions like,
>practically all jobs are in the US
>need US citizenship because jobs are tied to defense industry or national labs
>need security clearance

Any UK anons know if I'm screwed or not? Had reasonable grades before (good not great, was very relaxed). Third year finals come around and I just got mad at petty personal stuff and crashed out. Flunked final year exams and now missed my masters offer. Oops. Will they likely just want my money? Or should I make new plans?

I assume this thread is relevant enough since this determines if I stay in the academic pipeline or just jump into the workforce (when I finally land SOMETHING)

>>16721532
Yeah... that's what I'm seeing.
I have found a few where I live but it's a fraction of a percent compared to job postings in USA/Canada.
I can get in but it involves moving so fuck that.

>https://www.eu-japan.eu/events/vulcanus-japan
>Vulcanus in Japan - A training programme for students in engineering and other scientific fields
>Learn Japanese
>Get internship
>Finish degree
Should I go for it bros? The pay in Japan worries me, but I am thinking about pivoting out of the country after a while

>>16721345
You appear to have a subconscious preoccupation with trannys which suggests you are one. so yes you should give in

>>16721125
what if I am a jeet

>>16721723
Even if the pay is great your talking about a work culture that expects you to be there an hour before work starts to help clean up.

>>16721757
You still need H1B and security clearance.

Any EUbros with a degree in electronic/electrical engineering? The uni im thinking to enroll in offers a 5 year dual-degree (bachelors and masters). I was pretty good in math and compsci in school, but i know jack shit about physics. Do you think it's worth it?

>>16722121
Yes, it's worth it. Especially since education costs nothing. A couple of years ago I enrolled in a master's program in Spain for only 600 euros per year, and in Germany it's almost free.

>>16722257
>costs nothing
nigger I got a degree in The Netherlands and have 60k student debt. Food, rent, travelling and tuition are already more than 1k a month.

>>16722772
These low prices are only for EUbros.

>>16721723
>learn Japanese

Nigger, you need to be N1 to even think about being considered for a Japanese company. Actually better than N1 because that’s “conversational” and not focused on speaking in technical terms as an engineer. If you can accomplish that Herculean feat in less and you have an engineering degree there are tons of American companies who will pay you an American salary with American work hours to be their liaison/interface to Japan.

Alternatively you can shoot for a GS position where you don’t have to learn Japanese at all.

Reminder that if you don’t pass the PE on the first try you are officially a midwit.

>>16722772
The least you deserve for going to Holland. Devilish people and place.

I've been feeling more and more pessimistic about AI. Is all my work just going to reify the worst elements of our world? Fortify them so that things can never get better.

It's not even that interesting to me as a field in and of itself, I only started pursuing it because I couldn't get a job with my useless fucking mathematics degree and wanted to make money, as much of it as possible. But will it be worth it, being wealthy in the ruins?

Landed an interview at a dream job but they are obviously asking for someone who can shit gold and do everything from analog/digital conversion / amplification, sensor fusion w complex Kalman and other DSP related items along with a laundry list of stuff like "field work" and "system design" for a junior to intermediate salary range. 60-80k CAD. (No actual experience range posted)

I am quite frankly begging you guys to share your experience on how to present your skillset in a way where I can explain that I have a great on the job learning altitude and you cunts are basically looking for a junior dev anyway. I had a co-op with my current company but it was a total nothingburger which is usually where all the "junior" farming happens at real firms.

I have embedded system design architecture experience and implementation experience through my current work (very surface level, minimal viable product test rigs, may as well be vibe coded) and technical club / research with faculty during undergrad but obviously none of it was serious industry development for mining applications. It's a small company so I hope they would want to invest in me but at the same time I'm utterly skeptical because of the current market.

Any input is welcome, even if you want to call me a retard for not getting an EE degree and trying to get a serious job in embedded development as a physics grad. Should I just lie and blitzkrieg them with an embellished portfolio of my work to land the job and then bust my ass or try to present myself as an investment and set more realistic expectations to ease the learning curve? I'm literally willing to take a pay cut to work there because I'm not learning the type of shit these guys do at all / totally atrophied as a recent grad.

>>16722858
Congratulations on passing the PE on the first time! I'm sure you are very pleased with yourself!

>>16722121
No. American schools give you far better employment opportunities.

Is there any value in using LLMs to gauge how competitive I am as an applicant in various positions/industries?

I put my CV into DeepSeek, ChatGPT and Gemini. I asked them for general feedback as well as how competitive a candidate with this CV is. The assessments were generally positive, with ChatGPT thinking it was a fairly competitive profile in the 90th percentile, Gemini saying it's an exceptionally competitive profile in the 99th percentile and DeepSeek in between.

I assume none of these have access to the kind of data sets that would make percentiles more than an asspull, especially when the applicant profiles and key characteristics will vary massively by the job/location/company. And I'm wondering if they are acting as yes men and just tell everyone their profile is super good even if it's mediocre.

However if HR roasties are using AI tools to do their jobs for them so they can spend 7 hours of their work day sipping lattes and browsing TikTok maybe there is some point to seeing what an AI thinks about my CV.

No I don't have any real networks to evaluate this sort of thing which is why I ask LLMs and 4chan.

>>16723098
Try the engineeringresumes subreddit if applicable, your uni career center, or (if you know how to talk to people) dm people on Linkedin.
If you have to rely on LLM slop though, tell it to act like a jaded Stack Exchange user with 40 yoe in industry, I find that gets it to produce somwhat grounded outputs

>>16722934
> dream job
> asking for someone who can shit gold
> fry cook salary (t. american)
Why is this a dream job again?
Anyways, you could try padding the hell out of your current job and uni work, make it seem like you have a bunch of experience with XYZ stuff, and then make sure you actually have experience with XYZ (from self study or whatever) before you interview/get hired on. Important part is you can back up the bullshit, think of it as legitimizing stuff you already should know. Also try asking for a coffee chat/referral from an employee there. Good luck, it sounds like you need it

>>16723245
Thanks for the response. I mostly want the job because I'll actually get exposure to industry instead of being stuck doing la la land dev on no budget without any mentorship. Like I am forced to use Google drive for version control for fucks sake man, if I don't get slammed with real problems I'll actually atrophy.

Interview for that position is on Tuesday. Hopefully I'll nail the screen and can stall enough to learn as much as I can before the technical. God willing they just actually need a junior and because it's a small company I'll get a shot. But as always, all bets on nothing ever happens.

>>16723264
Yeah at this point just look up social engineering shit to do during the interview, if you actually got to the interview stage you definitely have a chance. Just don't talk about your actual current job responsibilities if they're like Google drive lmao. Hope it goes well man

>Be me, 25
>Software Engineer and failed med school applicant
I have this dream of working in medical research/clinical research. I don’t know how to get there, if trying for med school again or looking into a PhD is worth it at my age, etc. Does anyone have any advice?

>>16718573
>Money doesn't matter, just do what makes you happy! :^)

>>16724177
You won't realize it until you're old.

>>16718075
its infinitely more soulful than math or engineering which is why it pisses off bugs like you

>find a neat job that pays pretty well and fits my experience
>a month of waiting, interviews, etc.
>have third interview (out of four) scheduled for tomorrow
>get an email this morning
>position has been cancelled due to "internal changes"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9SD416mXx4

>>16718573
To quote Daniel Tosh, “I’ve never seen anyone frown on a Jet Ski”

>>16719717
>getting a PhD without already having a job lined up.

Nigger, you priced yourself out of the market. Only a handful of companies in the world need PhDs and they only need a few of them. Nobody is going to hire you for something you are overqualified for because they know you’ll bounce the minute you get offered something better.

Idk what the average age is for anons posting in this thread. But I’m shocked to learn that the job market and conditions are so dire. For the record, I’m perfectly aware that almost all anons in these threads are bigger brained than me as I only have a bachelors in CS.

I’ve interned at a FAANG before and started working as a fairly standard SWE at a FAANG adjacent company in the EU last year. My days are boring and I don’t feel like I’ve learned anything new in the last half year. It’s not all sunshine and rainbows. The free perks and the high starting salaries feel more like a trap to make you dependent on the company. There is a very modest increase in salary afterwards. Projects get shut, requirements change on the fly due to orders from above. People have to stay working until midnight or more. Sadly, not everyone can become a Staff Engineer (unless you job hop).
I think anons here would be more spiritually fulfilled working at a place that actually matches their interests.

My life is a joke and all I have to console myself is an internship at faang.

(To the sickening faggot coward from the last thread: I will never stop posting stuff like this. You are my mortal nemesis and you've picked a fight with an obsessive schizopath freak. Welcome to hell.)

>>16725024
Don’t know who you’re referring to. If it makes you feel any better, I feel the same too for reasons outlined here >>16724963

Feeling really lost

Guys a FAANG internship flew over my house!

>>16725042
someone in the last thread with a vendetta against people with faang internships

>>16724963
Get a PhD

>>16725061
Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot of cool stuff to do at FAANG, usually PhDs or undergrads/masters with good research experience get those roles. Normal SWE type roles are “boring” though.

>>16723680
Anon I'm happy to tell you I rocked that interview and got an in person / shop tour in a few days. I think it's entirely because of social engineering as the interview panel was boomerwaffen from my side of Europe and had big problems with how North American youth performed during co-ops etc., at one point even switching to a shared language and got way too casual for a highly technical role. If I get the job it will redpill me on race nepotism hiring even further.

I only have a degree in physics. No further studies. What jobs should I apply to?

>>16725217
Try the physics factory. Failing that, a physical job.

>>16717506 (OP)
I am missing the last semester of my BS in physics what jobs can i apply to i dont want to do research although i may take some graduate classes as a non degree seeking student

>>16725217
You're fucking cooked retard and I'm a pure physics guy. Here is the most honest take, as a physics undergrad without 2+ years of applied research or co-ops / technical clubs etc regardless of your GPA you will be a fry cook until some miracle happens and you land a junior data scientist role (if those even exist anymore)

The underlying reality is pure physics undergrads are worthless because every other stem field does what you do better in a work context and your only chance is have proof of being an insane self starter / juicer who will get tied down by academia or will go and be a good goy getting a masters in some applied physics field where you can find a job in industry afterwards (only if you aren't some asocial sperg)

>>16725227
I know my chances are bleak, that wasn't my question. My question is what do I apply to? What industries have a chance of hiring me besides data scientist?
Should I try in banks? Or where? I'm desperate for a job that isn't cashier at a supermarket

>>16725241
None that's why I said data scientist. What actual skills do you have? Have some introspection because no one actually cares about you knowing how vector fields work or how potential energy wells function as without being able to translate those skills to hardware it's all LARP on an undergrad level. As far as STEM goes, it's non niche coding and that's about it, assuming you even took computational physics.

Yeah, alright, I'll switch to AMO.

>cant get a job to save my life
has anyone made a youtube channel about their field? people like videos about physics and engineering...but who cares about neuroscience?

>>16725225
more people should get recommended getting a minor in business... accounting, sales forecasts, market analysis... these all require someone comfortable with math and charts. the minor can alot of open doors for STEMfags.

>>16725225
more people should get recommended getting a minor in business... accounting, sales forecasts, market analysis... these all require someone comfortable with math and charts. the minor can open alot of doors for STEMfags.

>>16725534
Don’t do business, do finance.

>>16725539
business is just a generic degree just like physics, and just like physics, there are multiple concentrations within a business degree including finance. pic related.

>>16725134
I am going to be a research scientist on AI. I would kill myself before doing SWE.

I got an offer for a great teaching job but my parents convinced me to turn it down because I couldnt give 3 months notice which was required.

8 month contract for $125/hr with per diem and OT opportunity. It’s a ton of money but at the end of the 8 months I’m left with my ass hanging in the wind with no job. Y/N?

>>16717506 (OP)
AI will never replace organic sentience
Your image reeks of degenerate robosexual fantasy

>>16725196
Holy shit congrats!!

>>16725543
Another UT student on this board? horrifying

Any good mental hospital that specializes in math phds?

>>16726044
https://amazon.jobs/content/en/job-categories/research-science
>>16726027
If you think you can get a good job in that time or it would be a significant upgrade from what you currently have then why not?

>>16725722
Research in AI is just as boring.
In 99% of the cases you're just a secretary for AI experiments. Wow, how exciting.
Plus, these days, people have lost interest in architectural design because of the whole bitter lesson thing.
It's basically all about data wrangling and scale.

I'm doing a PhD in AI myself so it's not like I'm talking out of my ass...

>>16726033
These people are degenerates but nigger, please, show me some of that "organic sentience" anywhere out there at this point. Anywhere.

>>16721555
Maybe go overseas?

>just finished 4 years, graduated with honors
>Professor offers a seasonal job
>Good money by local standards, matches my diploma
>Don't look for alternatives, be
>The fucker ghosts me
>Call the company myself, they are looking only for experienced workers
>Can't look for seasonal work anymore since I won't make it in time for masters exam
Great, now I have to look for subpar options. Assuming I'll even find them
God damn, what a cunt. If I knew right away I'd start searching earlier

>>16726036
Thanks anon. I had the in person tour and honestly seems like a decent place to work besides them being very open about the fact that the work is very project based and sometimes you will just have to clutch 2-3 all nighters in a row to deliver. I think I will submit myself to slavery in order to learn from absolute industry juicers that I met.

They requested references but didn't say yes or no, it's in the divines hands now.

>>16718617
God is such an abstract thing. I just want to get rich and make sexy death machines.

>>16720097
Why do they all use workaday it fucks up password manager

>>16727855
Workday needs to be hit with a hypersonic missile why do those subhumans require a new account for every fucking job under one website umbrella.

>>16726522
I'm doing a PhD in AI too so feel free to talk directly into my ass.

It still beats the software engineering shit I was doing previously.

>>16726522
>>16727908
unrelated, but how concerned are you on the issue of alignment? do you believe this is something genuinly worth looking into?

>>16727987
I don't think the concerns are unfounded and have done some alignment adjacent things in the past. I've become more amendable to ai x-risk, although I still think these people overlook the problems it will cause without a runaway super intelligence because of their own biases and material interests.

On the other hand I think the current situation where AI X risk is "owned" by revolting freaking effective altruist polyamory cultists doesn't help anyone. We need to brutally purge these people and their sick ideology from public life. No mercy, the way they gatekeep and hoard influence and resources risks endangering us all, even without AI. I'm also just sick of seeing them at conferences.

>>16727987
I'm kinda Peter Theilish on it. I don't necessarily believe that humans are part of the future.
Maybe our role is just to give rise to intelligent machines and then disappear.

>>16728088
I wish I could hit you in the head with the world's most powerful karate chop. You suck!

Which physics specialization should I go for for good job prospects?
Options from most to least interesting to me are computational, complex, bio, climate and quantum, which includes solid state.
I am leaning toward computational supplementing a few courses from complex and bio.
What I fear about computational is that I won't be competitive since everyone in STEM can code and less jobs due to some coding being automated.
I already wrote a project on image recognition with a company to get some experience in industry.

>>16728343
Learn CUDA and HPC then go work for nvidia or a hedge fund or something.

>>16728343
Computational physics isn't about coding. It's mostly about domain knowledge since the techniques used are very specific to certain domains. You won't even be a good general purpose programmer if you spend 10 years doing physics simulation codes.

But beware of what you are getting into. All these kind of jobs are super niche and come with various requirements, like needing to relocate to where the job is, having the right passport/citizenship and being willing to work in defense.

And to be honest, they don't even pay as well as being a SWE. If you want money and job stability just become a SWE.

>>16728352
I'm doing this and it's a really tough market. Wouldn't recommend.

PhD = le bad
Master's degree = le good

Seriously, I can’t think of a single reason why someone would pursue a PhD instead of going straight into industry after a master’s - unless they have a personal passion for research, teaching (I hate teaching), and theoretical work.

>>16728800
Are you sure? I would do courses in machine learning, statistics, complex systems, stochastic processes, HPC, possibly image and signal processing. Being too "niche" is not really what I was worrying about.

>>16728942
I did it because it was a challenge. Certain fields require a PhD.

>>16728343
>good job prospects
Your first mistake is picking physics, don't. If you must choose something employable in physics pick nuclear. Pick a masters or PhD which focuses on decommissioning or treatment of waste and you'll have a horribly boring job but set for life.
>computational
The only jobs are in research or becoming a CFD/comsol monkey and competing with engineers.
>climate
The only jobs are in research and there are few of them. You rely on government funding almost entirely and every government hates you for doing your job. You'd be better off studying meteorology which is also fucked in the job market but at least there are industry options. Also please don't be american if you're considering this, climate is woke no matter the topic and the current admin is gutting the finding and programs.
>quantum
Fuck off we're full. Job prospects are good until investors realise that none of these startups will ever make a functional and useful quantum computer, even if their bullshit innovation works exactly as they dream it will. It is a hype bubble, just like molecular qubits in the 90s, high-tc superconductors in the 80s or even the original type-1s.
The money is good and the work easy but I wouldn't bet on the job market lasting 10 years.
I don't have enough experience or knowledge of your other options but I'd guess that they too have bad job prospects or ridiculous competition.
>everyone in stem can code
Everyone in stem can script. There are a lot of really shitty coders in stem and that's with AI support giving them answers they don't understand and can't realise are shitty.

>>16729220
>CFD/comsol monkey
And it doesn't pay well.
All the engineering software companies pay shit.
It literally pays less than doing frond-end web dev.
And you have a really small pool of potential employers.
And don't be surprised if your job gets off shored to India.

>>16717533 >>16717544
Food for thought: I can immediately recognize you from the posters. While we are all anon, it is interesting that the regulars are still recognizable.
Also, try some Solarpunk to lighten up your life, and from your interests I guess Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou is what you need.

>>16718201
Go for the PhD. Getting destroyed by China is not a problem, is not happening but the possibilities can galvanize people into action, just like when Sputnik caused panic.
The Soviets were the first with a satellite in space, an animal in space, a human in space, a woman in space, and more. The US was caught completely out with pants down around the ancles and panic going up. Then people manned up. One of my lecturers at university had been part of the space race and he told us what it was like. It was all out action, back to the wall, with the supremely clear target of beating the Soviets to the moon. And they delivered.

Hopefully a tangent: many of the recent astronauts have battelfield experience. I am not sure f that means the martians have it coming or if the US expects a space war for the control of 16 Psyche. there is still a lot of future left in space.

Imagine getting a Microbiology degree only to end up working in a factory with people that can only speak Spanish.

That would be embarrassing, right?

Other board migrant radiologist here. AMA
https://files.catbox.moe/6ss4el.mp4

>>16718311
>Is there any info about EE field in PhD?
The closest thing is here:
https://sciencecareergeneral.neocities.org/#mozTocId795974
New algorithms and systems relating to RF in general and mobile phone tech in particular are fields where EE people are employed and it seems to me that many doing the heavy lifting have a PhD.

In any case, I'd like more input here.
t.FAQ Author.

Seems Norwegian Academia is best avoided, where political correctness is supreme and self censorship is the norm:
https://www.khrono.no/stillheten-i-akademia-er-ikke-noytral-den-er-farlig/982157
https://www.khrono.no/det-er-ikke-studentene-som-har-mistet-fotfestet-det-er-vi/984398
Graduation statistics is not good, the number of PhD students completing their degrees within 6 years has declined from 70 percent in 2020 to 64 percent in 2024:
https://www.khrono.no/vil-at-doktorgrader-bedre-skal-dekke-samfunnets-behov/982294
Meanwhile, the research output is deemed worthless:
https://www.khrono.no/vi-drukner-i-verdilose-publikasjoner/984446

>>16729403
Damn in another life I would have gone on to pursue stratospheric zero pressure / met balloon research out there since my bachelor research supervisor did that. Good to know it would have been aids. Maybe I would have more money there than here though.

I'm a PhD chemist at a national lab in the American southwest and I make a little north of $150k (with plenty of room for improvement in terms of salary). Very stable job, not at risk of being DOGEd, etc. But I'm thinking of going back to school for something more lucrative, maybe finance. Is this plan retarded or are there greater riches to be had for somebody with my background elsewhere?

>>16729447
Is this ragebait or is anon that jewish/hedonistic with his relationship pertaining money and STEM.

>>16720097
>World record rejection speedrun. 19 minutes, 8pm Tuesday night, posted today.
Most likely, the job never existed, they use job ads to promote themselves, showing the stock market that they are growing.

>>16720120
>got turned down by locksneed within 3 hours.
Last I heard about them, they had a scary huge personell turnover. Most likely you dodged a bullet.

>>16729463
Not ragebait, just wanting to make more money.

>>16727987
NTA but now that we know that training an AI with the output of an AI will in effect poinson it, the fate of the AI are sealed for now. There are ways around it (like "Soul Catcher") but those will take a long, long time.

>>16728343
>Which physics specialization should I go for for good job prospects?
Solid state physics with emphasis on semiconductors. Silicon tech tuned out to be a lot more long lasting than people expected.
>Options from most to least interesting to me are computational, complex,
Not sure, and if related to climate research you will be beholden to polictics.
>bio,
In-silico was tried but failed but there might be other fields with prospects.
>climate
That is more politics than real science.
>and quantum,
A lot of hype now, not sure how it will turn out.
>which includes solid state.
Yes.

>>16728343
>>16729605

Solid state is comfy. I have a weird industry niche job making optical characterization tools for semiconductor samples and devices.

Semiconductors are everywhere in industry and are very actively researched in academia. Unfortunately the hot materials in academia aren't really commercially adopted for the most part. But the underlying physics is largely universal, as are many of the tools especially on characterization side. So your hard skills might be surprisingly applicable. There's bighuge companies like ASML (and their suppliers like Zeiss who might value similar backgrounds), and e.g. Meta and Apple having relevant roles, but also a lot of small startups scattered all over that mostly spun out from university research groups. These places have ex-academics everywhere and they might actually value your PhD in physics.

It's not the type of career where you can find a job in just any city though. Also, there isn't really a super well-defined generic career path.

In my case, my PhD was about the materials, postdoc was about the methods, job is currently about the methods in a company where the main focus are the materials. I'm not a proper optics engineer but understanding the questions being answered with these tools makes up for some of it.

My salary is dogshit, the company is barely functional and if I have to switch jobs I don't even know where to begin. However it affords academia levels of autonomy day-to-day. Making physical stuff is also just deeply satisfying and I can fuck off to the lab or read papers/3D print garbage on the computer all day depending on how I feel like most days.

>went back to school fifteen years ago because /sci/ convinced me STEM was doable
>finished my BS, MS, PhD
>starting my fifth year of teaching next month at a new, tenure-track position
Thanks for giving me the swift kick in the ass I needed all those years ago, anons. /sci/ literally helped me turn my life around!

>>16729304
You're doing nice job.

What are you doing exactly? Firmware, hardware? Where are you from?

Does anyone here have any experience with switching labs? I don't know if my PI is toxic, a bad communicator, or a case of personality clash, but I am really starting to dread going to the lab everyday. The lab only has enough funding for me to last until the end of next year (even with teaching) so I am going to use that as an excuse to leave. How the fuck do you say you are accepting new students but only have enough funding for 1.5 years of their 4 year program?

>>16717506 (OP)
Looking to go into semiconductor manufacturing
Am I stupid?

>>16729805
Sooner or later the US is going to have to get serious large scale semiconductor production going. It's stalled for the moment, but it's too much of a vital national security issue not to happen eventually.

>>16729805
Elaborate. Does that mean designing the thing? Making the tools for designing the thing? Or being the guy in the clean room making it?

>>16729813
I got an undergrad in political science but through some bullshit I'm getting a masters in electrical and computer engineering and I'm focusing my degree on semiconductor manufacturing.

I'm learning mandarin because I may want to try and work for TSMC but rn I'm keeping my options open. So, to answer your question: not sure yet

>>16729820
>I'm learning mandarin because I may want to try and work for TSMC

> until china reclaims taiwan and u cant even get 200ft of the building kek

>>16729876
What if they invaded while I was there lmao

>>16729820
>Poli sci into masters of electrical and computer engg
What the fuck? How? Explain?

>>16729878

New bargaining chip for Mr.Jinping coming right up!

Look into Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor in Canada and how they were used with regards to a certain Huawei executive living in canada.

>>16729820
>I'm learning mandarin
If you want the rest of your career to be working in China, more power to you. Frankly, I'd rather shoot myself.

>>16729879
LEAP at BU. I just had to perform high enough on calc I & II, and the GRE before applying.
I'm still having a bit of trouble with my math chops but I'm workin on it

>>16729892
Goal is to wor 2 years in taiwan then take the experience back to states. probably california, but the world's a wacky place so who knows

>>16729220
Im in nuclear waste processing im looking to gtfo and get wfh gig somewhere. Any advice?

So I'm one of those fake-smart people. I had tiger parents who just pushed me down the study track so I pretty much had to delude myself into thinking "oh yeah I could totally do this , im just a little lazy"

but in hindsight I should have known that barely passing AP physics (like a 55%) or a 63% in chemistry shoulda been my first clue that I was not cut out for this path / didn't have the natural chops.

But I'm going back for my degree, I would LOVE a science job of some kind , I have no desire to make new discoveries or delusional enough to think I have anything to contribute - I just want to utilize the existing tools of the craft and perhaps engineer my own little contraptions and experiments.

But I remember this experience and I'm even WORSE at math/physics/chem now cause its been so long , my problem solving is what like 0%?

What I know I have for sure:
> the ability to write and write well (have won awards in the past, high views, high positive feedback etc)
> very strong memory (I crushed Bio as we all did lol)


Should I give up the science dream and stay in my lane, not waste any time on a dead end? Are there softer sciences in demand that could still give me this vibe or nah?

So I am an undergraduate at this mid-sized university that is in the upper third in my country if you believe rankings. There is this star professor at my physics department that for whatever reason just stays at my mid-tier college instead of going to some foreign ivy league or something despite having an compeltely insane publishing record. Ironically the university has trouble getting new students depite the fact that this professor alone managed to pull the government to move two national-level science institutes to our campus, maybe because they are concerned of the ranking of the university itself. He also has the reputation to be a very nice guy.

I just saw an ad for his group to join as an undergraduate assistent with the lowest requiremens ever, like 'yo, just know some python and [basic course in this field]' and you can apply here. I have heard of the most random students being accepted by his group in the past.

Despite the fact that my major's focus doesn't completely align. Should I just apply? Or is this going to be a mistake? This part-time stint is just limited to 6 months for now.

>>16730185
Idk bro flip a coin? There's too much context for anyone to answer this for you, you didn't even include their field that they study. Put that brain to use and do some opportunity cost analysis versus your current job prospects and experience and try to solve for X.

>>16730185
No harm in applying
Not exactly sure what your country's work culture is like, but if you get the job and find out its retarded, just leave

If you meet a rationalist on the side of the road, speaking all sort of silver tongued lies. Kill him.

>>16729932
Why the fuck would you want a science job? They require a great deal of training, are usually not that good and are competitive. Is it an ego thing or are you actually as big of a dummy dum dum dum as you say you are?

>>16730185
You can't win if you don't play, put yourself forward, nobody else is going to do it for you.

>>16730227
Well I currently have a comfy working student job in private industry I would have to take a pay cut but it's been more than a year now and the routine is getting tiring.

>>16730227
Well I currently have a comfy working student job in private industry that pays above average for my field so I would have to take a pay cut but it's been more than a year now and the routine is getting tiring.

>>16729805
Semiconductor tech (both design and fabrication) is a rock solid career.

>>16729820
>I may want to try and work for TSMC
They prefer to havetheir technicians with a PhD. And expect tough working hours.

>applying to everything and anything related to ME
>cad monkey position(asking for someone with 2 year degree while i have 4 year in ME) asks for availability for phone interview
>send
>No phone calls, or msg's
>"we have you scheduled to come for an in person interview"
sus as fuck. place is over an hour away too. reviews are mixed AND i'd be under underemployed

>>16726033
True, I'd rather have a GLaDOS than a Emmy the robot

>>16730249
To be honest , yeah it is somewhat ego

I just want to say I beat the dragon that took me out years ago while simultanously career-wise , I give zero shits about money , I just want stability. Just earlier in this thread there was a guy talking about working in nuclear waste management - he said it's super boring but super stable , THAT is my career dream.

Chuck me away in the corner in some lab or department and forget I existed while I can just learn and make things in my spare time.

>>16730760
I work in nuclear waste processing. What would you like to know? I have a nice flexible schedule with 4 10s but I do wish i had more free time desu. Its also very stable and slow.

>>16730770

I guess the only questions I have is: what education level did you have , what "track" would you suggest as ideal knowing what you know now, etc

But without googling it once I already know its some variant of Nuclear Engineering stream , I would get absolutely WRECKED in any engineering program so I'm not even gonna entertain your path

But I mean something thats LIKE your position but can be attained from a BSc

>>16730774
I have Bsc in Chemical Engineering. Any engineering should land you a job in this space. Job market is shit everywhere. I only got my job from being an intern at nuclear companies. Alot of it is luck and nepotism.

What's the deal with topological data analysis?

What STEM career is best if you want an excited job with a lot of stress and high pressure?

>>16731384
Triple integral solver.

What age do people have their PhDs finished?

>>16725529
I'll subscribe <3

>>16729304
Samsung for US scans?!

>>16731446
In the US, 27-28 is pretty typical, but that varies as basically each student/PI can heavily influence the time it takes to get out.

>>16731384

Hedge fund Quant

>>16731548
Can the prereqs for this be self-taught? I have a stem PhD (chemistry, which i lnow isnt as good for this role as physics) and I'm really good at self teaching things.

>>16731586

Read for yourself

https://www.citadelsecurities.com/careers/details/quantitative-researcher-quantitative-research-analyst/

>>16731591
Citadel have non-compete clauses of more than a year, just saying.

The only thing keeping me going is imagining physically assaulting my supervisor at my thesis defense and then blowing my head off with the world's biggest handgun

>>16731668
Those are not especially enforceable and it's not like this chucklefuck that just decided he wants a job is going to get in considering that is maybe the 3rd of 4th most coveted job on earth

>>16731675
>Those are not especially enforceable
Depends on the state

>>16731446
Finished mine at 35, but I also did a whole other degree before doing STEM.

>>16731446
Varies by country. In the UK 25 is around the age where you get the PhD if you entered uni at the normal age and did your degrees in the normal time without gaps.

If you're from where I am in Northern Europe you'd be 29 with exactly those same specifications.

>>16731446
32, but I started my second bachelor degree in 23.

I really regret that I didn't go straight into the industry after getting my master's degree.

I'm from Europe.

So, my dumbass might be taking a paycut to get into the inspection/grading section of a certain department of transportation as a coffee nigger/gopher. Is there a reputable online course for civil engineering that I could put on a resume/online application without people calling me a racial slur and throwing me out of the interview?

>>16731673
Fucking bitch. You're not fantasizing about blowing his head off?

>>16732340
Yeah honestly if you're gonna suicide you'd think you'd murder your perceived enemy (to be truthful this person is so insignificant that they aren't worth assaulting, and you've built them up in your head as someone worth harming and wasting your effort on).

I'm graduating with an electrical engineering BS in the united states. How is the job market? Are there any special topics i should know within EE for a job? I was thinking a factory job might be nice

>>16732462
Uh...your institution hasn't been giving you leads?

>>16732340
>>16732345
You guys have no idea about the way I physically assault people... Trust me it's crueller to leave him alive...

>>16731942
Mate, do I look like I give a shit?

>>16731486
>>16731990
Why are Americans and british so fast and efficient?

>>16732255
>>16731944
How come europeans are so slow?

>>16732544
I did my national service first, then went to the UK for my studies, got my PhD when I was 28.

>>16732544
The short of it is that yuros see PhD as an achievement instead of a hurdle.

The Brits skip a proper research masters so start the PhD at 22/23 and funding only lasts 3.5 years. Some stemmies will finish inside that time, others like experimental physics commonly take 4-4.5 years. On paper you're just as qualified as the rest of the world but the lack of experience can really show. Doing it so fast is purely the country's rules on a PhD and funding.
>americans so fast
I have met too many americans with no publications in their 7th year of research for this to be true. Most American postdocs I've met were already in their 30s.

>>16731384
High-TC superconductivity.

>>16729914
Sorry bro you might be stuck. All I can think of is consulting or regulatory/safety body work. Neither of which are easy to find nor wfh.

>>16732489
They have not

>>16732544
Well the reason for the north yurop vs. UK can be broken down as follows:

>normal age to finish high school is 19 instead of 18 (+1 year)
>men have one year of national service afterwards (+1 year)
>Bachelors + masters is 5 years as opposed to UK's 4 year integrated masters (+1 year)
>PhD "default" duration is 4 years as opposed to UK's 3 year funding (+1 year)

There is a big cosplay/furry convention in town. Any good leads on STEM jobs?

>>16732729
>>PhD "default" duration is 4 years as opposed to UK's 3 year funding (+1 year)
>>men have one year of national service afterwards (+1 year)
These things don't apply to a lot of countries

>>16732818
That's exactly the sort of sickening hobby I would expect a scientist to indulge in.

First year hoping to transfer to a good uni and apply for accelerated MS for biomed engineering.

What should I study before I transfer? What textbooks should I read?

I'm guessing math and bio, probably also chem and physics. I heard Spivak is good, I also heard about Stryer for biochem.

Someone suggested Campbell Biology but it just looks like a high school textbook to me, is it really worth reading?

>>16732904
>biomed engineering.
Don't do this and study medicine instead, if you can't become a doctor become the nearest thing to a doctor, become paramedical staff, or medical assistant, or male nurse.

>>16732909
Why's that? I'd like to work in a company developing new technologies, or do research on new techniques for bio interfaces. Is biomed eng not the right direction for that?

>>16732912
Nobody is hiring.

>>16732943
Is that still going to be true in 5-7 years, though? Making career choices based on the current job market has to be some kind of fallacious.

Does it make a difference if you have a Physics BS vs an Applied Physics BS, or are they pretty much the same? Since its prob useless either way I might as well go for just the Physics BS (same degree at school except for difference in electives + plus take quant mech. instead of gen. chem)

Anyone know anything about working Japan?

Graduating masters in mech eng. In Western Europe soon and planning to find a job in Japan because I love Japan.

Yes I know the wages suck, yes I know working sucks, yes I know Japs hate me idgaf. I can do N3 which I know is shit but I think I'll hit N1 after two years of living in Japan based on previous experience of learning the language quite fast during my exchange study in Japan.

I'm mostly worried if any company will even hire me. I have a lot of experience in my field already, my own (small) company in manufacturing and at least three business ideas/projects I would like to propose to the company that I could work on in my field (defence).

>>16731591
I have a friend who works for citadel - he told me they hire people for just being very exceptional and my friend is for sure exceptional.

>>16732956
>Is that still going to be true in 5-7 years,

Are you not paying attention to who runs this world and makes its decisions? To every major decision made in the last few years?

We are in a war of attrition right now, they have plenty of people to burn through. You really think things are still going to get "better" lol